Windows Update Locks Users Out Of Computer
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Windows Update Locks Users Out Of Computer
Windows 11’s July 2024 security update (KB5040442) is causing a major issue. After Windows update, users are asked to enter their Bitlocker recovery key after the PC reboots.
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And Microsoft want to enable Bitlocker by default? Madness!
I know right, crazy.
@@Britec09Hello Brian, I hope all is well with you. I am in need of your help. Due to a lightning strike. My mom's computer got wiped out. I have a new motherboard and the purchase on eBay was supposed to be new and unused and included everything as if it was purchased unopened. Upon inspection the motherboard did not come with everything the most important part was the I/O shield. An extensive search on eBay revealed no exact matches except one, it is a computer store in Berlin, Germany. That's perfect the only problem is they don't ship to the USA. IF you are willing to help me what I would need is for you to order it and then ship it to me here in the USA. This is to restore my mom's desktop computer. I can explain more if needed. Thank you in advance for your time and help.
Most people don't need BitLocker, so to force it onto the general-public whose computer skills are generally somewhat lacking is going to cause more than a few problems for the average user, it's beyond barmy to do so.
@@cougar02000 What is the purpose of using bitlocker, when the key is on your MS account? Anything on the clouds are open to the whole world!
Not want, will be forced on Home unless they backtracked on that.
To get your bitlocker key BEFORE something happens and you run a local account, start a command prompt in Admin mode and execute:
"manage-bde -protectors -get "
Replace "" with the actual drive you want to get the key for, usually C:, but once for each drive that's encrypted.
Then print that data on paper and/or store it on a USB stick that you put a literal padlock on.
If you print it, make sure you use a good font that ensures that "l" and "1" looks different as well as "0" and "O".
Not only should you have a printed copy of your BitLocker key, but I would suggest suspending bit locker before every update and resuming it after the update completes and the computer reboots successfully.
Better yet, don't enable BitLocker unless you actually need it. If you have a desktop computer for instance, why enable it in the first place? What are the odds you're going to lose your desktop computer? Were that someone's going to break into your house and steal just the HDD and not the entire computer?
no, just turn it off, it's utter nonsense for 90% of people.
@@s.muller8688 Actually the easiest solution is not upgrade to Windows 11 at all.
@@Bookstorewalla I agree about not upgrading to Windows 11, but Bitlocker is also available on Windows 10 pro. I personally don't think it makes sense for a desktop computer that you use at home, but it's a good precaution for a laptop that you take with you on trips.
If one gets that far, might as well create a local admin account, with a password, and then open the bitlocker applet, and save the key directly to a file or USB drive ( certain drive types alter the options that is shown ).. With this approach, you can save multiple keys to the usb flash drive, and you can, when in recovery, just select the USB drive, and Windows will find the right file on its own and unlock the drive.
And there's nothing stopping a user from saving the file to two flash drives; keep one in a safe place, and the second on a flash drive kept with your regular keys, for example.
The alternative is to just take a picture of the key using the command prompt and mange-bde -get and leave the picture on your phone.. It's not as convenient when one needs to type in the 48 characters needed. Most people start to have issues getting 8 characters entered correctly; 48 is an actual achievement. Me, I prefer to save the files to a UNIQUE looking flash drive ( a flash drive for important stuff )
When you don't vet your updates and expect the users to be beta testers this is what happens. Microsoft needs to be sued!
Their EULA prevents this.
You need to read and understand your EULA. By running Windows you have agreed to not sue Microsoft. So we're past that already. Next!
Microsoft needs to be put on the Too Big to Fail program and extreme oversight imposed.
Windows 10 and following already don't provide me with any important upgrade in useability, so what do I care if MS is under continual review.
No. Microsoft needs to be ditched. 😅 Lot easier and effective.
@@rawmaterials3909 Moved to Linux when MS 1st unveiled their "snapshot feature"....Couldn't be happier without MS on my computer.
The silly thing is, if you don't have a smartphone with internet, or another computer with online access, the "locked out" computer being your ONLY portal to the net, and that portal is shut, because it wants you to enter this code first.
In case of anything happen, always stand by USB with Linux live CD or Hiren CD... At least u can do something that u can access to internet
Agree, pure stupidity.
@@fonziebulldog5786 Reminds me of the worst captchas, the ones where you either have to to select each quadrant containing a certain element (like cars or traffic lights, and on many of the photos you get an overhead photo, which will theoreticall contain cars and traffic lights, so should theoretically be selected, but on the other hand they're too far away to be properly distinguishable, so should probably NOT count, or... take your geues) or one that haunted me recently: a simple cartoonish drawing with some tiny "icons", too small and too badly drawn to make much sense... and you're then asked to select the one that "doesn't fit" - of course, none of the "icons" are the same - that would be too simple - no, they're supposed to represent certain items in pairs, like two dogs, two horses, two sheep etc., but due to the horrible quality, it's nearly impossible to determine what's what. Of course, should you manage to miraculously get it right, you will often not be through yet, but have to do another one like it... and if you fail, you start all over.
Such "solutions" have one thing in common: they're supposed to protect security, but they're so stupid, that they enrage many thousands of innocent, legal users before they prevent one single case of abuse.
@@kenrock2 A good idea though.
Never underestimate MS ability to drive people away from Windows and to Linux.
Linux is at 4% of the market share, not sure Microsoft are that worried just yet 😂
A lot more people are starting to notice. MS malware apologists are starting to lose views... Good to see.
@@chrismay2298yeah, and lot of people still don't want to admit that 😂.
The average consumer that shuns Windows go to a Mac rather than Linux.
@@kevinmcfarlane2752 but we try to make them switch to linux, not mac.
Once upon a time updates used to fix bugs and fix security holes. Nowadays all updates seem to do is f**k things up.
I've experience NO upgrade in actual usability.
If there is a more secure update, I'm still not very worried about it.
That's why I don't hit the update button no more
I disable updates on everything. They are always pushing changes and degrading current features. It's too disruptive. It's too bad they don't have a "stable" branch that is ONLY security fixes, NOTHING MORE.
This update was SO annoying. These dumb OEM companies enable it from the factory and elderly people or non-tech-savvy people spend days contacting support trying to figure out why they need a super long code for a feature they never turned on in order to boot their PCs.
I wasn't affected by it since I don't use BitLocker but i had to fix about 10 computers.
Goddammit.....you reminded me that i gotta get my old desktop unlocked by my local repair guy.......long story short too many firefox tabs .....put the pc to sleep instead of shutdown and since last fall my prebuilt got locked and guess what?.......we never had a bitlocker key(as far as i know) 😭😭😭😭
And by fix I hope you mean that you installed Linux.
Same. bitlocker should have never been implemented like this. I had 5 such cases since the beginning of 2024 that ended in total data loss.
@florinadrian5174 stop with the Linux advertising please 🙄🙄🙄
I'm not a software programmer or computer engineer.....just a normie who watches videos on how tech works.....windows 10 in 2020 was fine for me thanks.
@@chazcmeekins83 why? because you don't like to hear it?...really? absolute clown
Sounds like a 'deliberate' bug to encourage people to open a microsoft account. Microsoft will say, " told you this would happen".
or to force them to have to buy a new copilot + pc
@@billyguthrie3176 a co-pilot pc has an npu that is all and you know what it's because they are to lazy to use your gpu's superior ai processing power because amd intel and NVidias ai tech are all different they want one simple piece of hardware to use for ai that's all and it's inferior to the gpu's ai power an npu is for cellphones because it's cheap on power plain and simple but it is slow as shit due to this issue
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue One of their main problems is they are trying to push AI every where instead of just using it where it makes the most sense to.We don't need it to think, type, speak, and decide for us. Using it to remove a background in file explorer is ok and certainly using it to greatly mprove the overall performance of their OS should be one of the main uses because that's something all users can benefit from. But putting it to monitoring the user and taking snapshots of what they are doing every few minutes like that recall feature is not something it should be used for.
@@billyguthrie3176 true so true we don't need a fucking ai for Microsoft windows to work it has worked fine without it but they are to stupid to realize people want a fast OS not Slow spyware ladened OS that is why Linux keeps winning over windows users to it because it is in a nutshell a fast OS not wasting resources on spying on you which by the way is what the ai is doing it's the only thing it is doing the features that Microsoft totes it can do are there to distract you from the ai spying on your ass
Yeah feels very mob mentality. "Say. You got a nice computer there. Tell you what. Create a M$ account and you'll be good. If you don't then we'll cripple your computer with updates."
I don't understand how a PC sitting in someone's basement would need to be encrypted by default, maybe a laptop being carried all around the country with sensitive information on it, it should be opt in not opt out. Seems it may just be justification for Microsoft to then push the OneDrive to backup the system to the cloud so they can more easily rummage through you're data.
Exactly. Over on the darkside: On the Mac, you have "Filevault". Its essentially the same thing - a built-in hard drive encryption tool. The difference is that it is opt-in only, and it tells you exactly what its going to do when you choose to turn it on. That is how it should work.
I never have my backup drives connected to the internet, never use cloud anything, and never log in to Windows with a Microsoft account. Also use registry to disable telemetry, updates, etc.
I have a Samsung laptop from 2015 that works perfectly still on Windows 10 pro. It's never connected to the internet while having any kind of sensitive data present on it.
The problem isn't the encryption. The problem is that it happens without your knowledge.
@@dm8579 Unplug the PC from the Internet every night when you go to bed or when you're on vacation
In the world of cybersecurity, people are so high on their own farts that everything has to be encrypted at rest, and these 'best practices' trickle down to users who didn't explicitly enable them because the pearl clutching tech oligarchs wanted to enforce non-repudiation of the masses.
anybody that has ever worked tech support will know exactly what kind of pain in the ass it is when a customer brings a computer locked down with bitlocker. You will ask them to sign into his/her microsoft account to get the keys,and they will almost certainly reply "what microsoft account?" What an absolute nightmare.
but .. but .. but.. i had you set up the computer so you should have that already on file. can't you just look up the bitlocker key for me, or at least log into my account and get the key? Isn't that why I paid you?
please note I am joking ...
“Why don’t you upgrade to windows 11?”
Windows 11:
And this is why we have been Microsoft free for the last 15 years.
Great thinking, switched to Linux many years ago, so much better in so many ways, would never go back.
PS before anyone says, yes you can run windows software under Linux, mostly.
@@matthewn1805Most certainly can. It is so easy to slide over to Mint or Ubuntu for beginners that are a bit nervous.
Made the same move a few weeks ago.
I did so two years ago, and my only regret is that I didn't do so sooner. My current favorite distro is Kubuntu KDE Plasma, though I occasionally use Kali Linux in a VM for pen testing within my own network.
Nice!
I've paused my updates. Thank you for mentioning this, as Microsoft has enabled bitlocker on my device. I would have lost data if they automatically installed that. I'm turning off bitlocker as well.
You THINK you paused updates. They'll install whatever they want, whenever they want. Your settings don't matter to MS.
@@chrismay2298 On the plus side, I disabled bitlocker and decrypted my drive.
@@chrismay2298 Sadly, that's probably true. On the plus side, I disabled BitLocker.
(I have no idea why RUclips deleted my prior comment. It wasn't even hostile or anything.)
When I had Windows 10 "upgraded" from Windows 7, I had to turn off updates, because Windows had filled my hard drive up to 108 GB of my 110GB hard drive.
That only paused the updates for a week or two, but the program overrode my settings and kept updating anyway. Not only that, it did updates two or three times more often than people who had installed Windows 10 on it's own, rather than "upgrading".
@@politicallyambiguous8424set a reminder to check that periodically
I lost count of how many times ms has mamaged to re enable things I previously disabled through settings, registry, group policy, etc
I'm on a custom OS with no updates and somehow they manage to reinstall edge on my PC every couple months
They really are wrecking so many computers
Why are they doing this ?
They have hit the self destruct button
To scare the people avoiding microsoft accounts to sign up probably.
@@gwaeron8630 Wouldn't be surprising. They're so pushy with their fucking MS accounts.
@@gwaeron8630 Wouldn't be surprising. They're so pushy with their fuing MS accounts.
Turnover.
It's to dangerous to let your pc update automatically these days. I've paused mine
me to
I run the IT department at a research facility. This simply isn’t an option for me due to security issues but I understand.
Yep. gpedit is your friend.
you don't want windows connected to the Internet.
if it isn't connected, you don't need to update it@@HoopsRaccoon
use WUB and block the update completely
Bitlocker - An enterprise secuirty solution only belongs in an enterprise environment where it doesnt matter if the TPM gets corrupted as you'll have a System Admin to take care of it.
A home user wont have a sysadin who can recover their data when the TPM decides to wipe itself due to a windows update as Ive personally experienced.
LOL fantastic. I can't believe it. Windows 11 is the gift that keeps giving. What a dud.
Yeah, Headaches
I had no issues on both of my Windows 11 Pro PCs but checked BitLocker status on both anyway and it's switched off. All good. Thanks for the video!
Worst part is that Bitlocker is enabled by default on mobile devices, (at least with the Home edition), while the users are unaware of this fact, nor they understand its implications in the most part.
Thank you - this is so helpful - I didn't realize my computer was enabled and I had to basically jump through hoops to find it, but found it in my Microsoft account as you suggested, glad I found this and wrote it down right away stored in a file where I can access it later if needed.
You're welcome
Now wait a minute. Britec didn't tell you to do this. He only said there's a problem, he didn't advise people to go looking for the BitLocker key.
😊
Hi Brian, thanks for the video about the nasty BitLocker bug. The information is helpful, and it’s no fun to be locked out of a computer. I don’t have BitLocker enabled, but it seems that it will be enabled by default in the upcoming Windows 2024 H2 update when you do a clean install or perhaps when you update the computer to the Windows 2024 H2 update later this fall. But there are ways to turn off BitLocker when you do a clean installation of Windows 11 via Rufus, so that's good to know. Take care Brian and thanks for the heads up about the BitLocker bug.
Disable it in group policy and it wont enable
@@Britec09 Hej thanks i will do that take care and have a nice day in the UK .
This is a VERY valuable tip. Please add to the description or do another vid. Thanks for all you do 👍👍💪@@Britec09
@@Britec09 Hi a video on how to disable BitLocker in group policy would be helpful. I've used group policy to restrict Windows10 to security updates only and I don't have a Microsoft account. Would suck if Microsoft enabled Bitlocker by default with a security update without me having a Microsoft account. Thanks for the video!
MS here, thanks we’ll have that fixed for your next update….😮
Turned of my bitlocker when i dont need it to steal energy from my computer no matter how little or much it does it. Thanks as usual for your information. 😃👍
This problem isn't caused by people not knowing what bitlocker is. it's caused by them having never even heard of bitlocker until a windows update screwed up their computer. Micorsoft needs to quit with the problematic updates. They have been issuing faulty updates so often over the last 4 to 6 months users are beginning to think they are doing it intentionally. That's bad because it will drive both OS and computer sales down.
You can find the recovery key by right clicking on the drive that is encrypted and select 'manage bitlocker' from there you will be able to retrieve the key, print it or save to a usb stick. If you do not see 'manage bitlocker' then your drive is not encrypted. I was able to do this on an external drive that had been bitlockered. I assume this will work on a machines boot drive. This is something you can only do if you have access to the computer, best get the recovery key just in case.
All part of the plan to make the computer linked to the MS account/phone etc. ties it all together nicely.
I don't think a MS phone is a thing anymore.
@@1pcfred they have something like KDE Connect that lets your phone and your PC work together like sharing inputs, files, notifications easily
Question, if I have bitlocker disabled on my pc in 22h2 will updating to 23h2 enable it?
Just hope you can log in to your Microsoft Account on a device OTHER THAN the one you are trying to unlock!
I was met with this screen on my recently purchased Dell laptop today. Mildly infuriating to say the least but following this video I did manage to get my recovery key from my microsoft account and get in to MY computer again, so thanks Britec for the info. you mention that you can turn off Bitlocker once back in windows but.. I see no option to disable Bitlocker :/ and googling this seems to suggest a method via computer management and local users and group.. but guess what? No local user and group setting shows.
So it looks like either Dell or MS have 'helpfully' enabled this by default because I sure as heck didn't enable bitlocker. I'm reasonably tech savvy but this one had me stumped for a while..
Microsoft is literally pushing people to find alternative OS solutions 😞
Open command prompt as admin and type manage-bde -status to see if you have bitlocker enabled. Should show "Protection Status: Protection Off" if it is disabled.
Just thought i'll put it here if people want to know if they have it on before being forced to take this mandatory update. It only affects pc that have bitlocker enabled.
Been dealing with this issue at work since this week start. A prelude to impending crisis. Just imagining the horror show that is come once bitlocker becomes enabled by default.
none
fully decrypted
thank god.
Thanks for this. I built a new Windows 11 machine yesterday and although it is only a gaming machine I still did not want the potential hassles with bit locker (and windows Hello as well for that matter). I knew I had it all disabled via the user interface but it was good to go to the command prompt and get confirmation. I have all updates as of a few hours ago, everything is fine and I have paused updates for the 5 weeks. That said, for the upcoming re-built of my very old machine that has my proper personal stuff on it, I think I am going to go to Linux. I just no longer have faith in Microsoft or Windows to keep my personal files secure. I have always keep them secure offline and I intend to keep it that way.
Thanks for the tip.
This happened to me a week ago, and i didnt use Bitlocker, and thats why i couldnt recover my bitlocker key, because it wasnt on my microsoft account! All i could do is reinstall Win 11. Now i am conisdering switching to Linux
I'm too scared to be enabling bitlocker. The risk of loosing your data is much higher with bitlocker than without it.
I don't see a point in using bitlocker
@@Britec09exactly the average user doesn’t need bitlocker. that said the best advice is to save the key on a usb key or follow your steps. but a labeled usb key in the person control is better imho.
@@Britec09 makes troubleshooting absolute hell
true that
It's enabled by default on new pcs
Hi, my BitLocker recovery key is not saved in my Microsoft account. Is there another way to enable my computer? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Thanks M$ for enabling the feature without my knowledge BECAUSE SECURITY IS FIRST. And so Windows 11 is so bloated that it can barely open File Explorer, there is no dark mode in Windows Tools (formerly Windows Administrative Tools), i.e. it is but with a mixture of light mode (it works normally in Windows 10). Even if we go from these Windows Tools to the C: drive, we can run the old file explorer from the address bar, which was known in Windows 10. There is also a long way to go until Windows 11 becomes "perfect", because with each update it gets worse.
Thanks for sharing
My pleasure
No Brian first thanks for the warning as every day when I check for updates I always get a security update. Actually on checking I have this particular update installed on my laptop - something that does not happen on my main desktop when checking for updates on it - I shall have to delve into update history to see if it has downloaded without my knowledge. Now having said that I have often thought of encrypting my laptop it is my main machine to use, and the latter part of this video has been really helpful!!.
Write the key to a post-it note and stick it to the monitor.
Or write in in a password manager stored on your phone.
just save it to your microsoft account, it's the safest option available. it's stored in the cloud so whatever happens it's not going anywhere unless you delete it yourself
Trusting a company that routinely proves or cannot be trusted to make all your security decisions for you is Not security.
A Microsoft account can be hacked. A Post-It note cannot.
@@erie910 the chances of your Microsoft account to be hacked is very low. I still think it's the best option.
(Unless you routinely download malware and go to phishing websites)
What happens if you lose the note? what now? Just save it to your Microsoft account AND write it down, don't rely on just one.
If I hadn't cloned my SSD, I would have been in big trouble. Even though I used my rec key, Msoft advised it could not repair my disk. It was working perfect before they locked me out. As it was it cost me 3hrs of frustration. This should not be allowed. Why are governments allowing them to do this?
There's only one government and Microsoft works for it, not for you.
I have all that stuff turned off don't see no point in turning it on its of lot of messing about I would no how to turned it on if I needed it but don't see the point
I agree Rich
Thanks for making this great video. This is yet another reason why I installed Windows 10 offline, to prevent it from being constantly logged into a Microsoft account.
I've been using a linux distro for months and any gaps for apps are on an old desktop running a linux hypervisor with W11 and other tools on my network. So far, so good; extended the life, performance and privacy of my systems.
There's a LOT of ppl saying "F*ck Off" to Microsoft and moving from Windows to Linux now. Because ppl are totally fed up with their selfish 💩. You own your PC, you decide what it does and when, not Microsoft. 😁
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle Cool. Been looking into doing it myself. Using a VM to learn some of the stuff to get me started. I'm not going in blind, that would be dumb 😉
Linux is junk and this video has nothing to do with Linux! did you not even watch it? or just come here to spam a Linux comment?
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle Windows is junk, i do not deny it, it is just the junk that runs the best software.
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle unlike delusional Linux users who think they are immune to everything! and i think you will find that if you bother to look into it, it was not Microsoft or Windows at fault.
There's another way around this just have your boot drive's image saved and reimage your boot drive. This can be done through Windows and the reimage won't be locked with BitLocker with Windows 10. Windows 11 your forced to use BitLocker but once you reimage your computer your have a new key assigned to your drive once you boot into Windows 11 and your be back up and running without loosing anything.
This saved me more times then I can count thanks to Windows updates bricking my computer lol.
This is madness, it has no place on a home machine, most people have no idea and don't have a DRA set up and don't back up their keys - they are using this to push the microsoft account.
Home machines typically run the Home version of Windows, not Professional. BitLocker isn't included with Home versions.
Excellent and timely advice. There will be many people who will thank you for this.
I love Windows so much it led me to Linux 3 years ago! 😂
Can Linux run camtasia studio? No, so why should I as a user be forced to use other software just to use Linux? That is just one scenario, could go on all day. So NO, Linux is not for everyone.
@@Britec09 What you replied doesn't make any sense, than your forced to use Windows so Im very sorry for your luck!
This video isn't even about Linux! did you just come here to spam a Linux comment?
@@Britec09 LOL! Guy would rather apologize for malware than use one different piece of software that very likely will run in bottles....
Hey, expert! Tell me how I can use my HP Reverb G2 on Linux. Tell me how I can run DCS on Linux. Tell me how I can run IL-2 Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover on Linux.
What? Nothing? OK. Next time keep your mouth shut, you little troll lunix addict.
When I got my first laptop it came with windows 10 home with bitlocker on by default. I could not able to turn it off in home version. The only solution was for me was to change the key from home to pro by putting a random key found from internet that i found. Then I was able to turn it off and disabled the secure boot in the bios. This helped me somehow.
If you scroll down in the BitLocker recovery page, it says:
"(headline) What if I don't have a Microsoft Account?
If you do not have a Microsoft account, then you're ***ked."
I had this happen this morning after installing express vpn. The funny thing was, when I went to find the key, and then after waking the laptop, it no longer wanted the key and I could log in as usual. Computers have a mind of their own hey Brian.
Guys, just disable updates either with group policy or using Port Master to prevent Windows Update connecting to Internet
This!!!
I am brand new to Windows 11 and was shocked that with a stock install (which involves Windows Hello), if I had disabled the WiFi adaptor in Device Manager, the next time I boot up or even just re-start it, that WiFi adaptor (and presumably a LAN adapter as well) is forcibly turned back on again. I got around it by getting rid of Windows Hello but I still do not want further updates as this particular machine actually doesn't even need internet access to run the apps on it. I will look into Port Master since my home version does not have group policy I don't believe.
@@07wrxtr1 Dont forget to create restoration points often either.
@@jonathanparle8429if it doesn't need internet to run the apps then just unplug your network cord.
Not to mention the speed hit you take with encryption ON. There are times that it makes sense or even is mandatory to have it on (company laptops) but for Joe the gamer at home, no. 😂
Joe the gamer at home probably isn't going to run into this if he just bought Windows 11 Home edition rather than Windows 11 Professional. Windows 11 Home edition doesn't include BitLocker.
@@pyrioncelendil Surface Pro 11 comes with Windows 11 Home out of the box (24H2) and guess what's enable? Yep! Drive fully encrypted. Key stored in MS account used to set up initially.
@@cpufrost Is Joe the gamer really going to be playing on a Surface Pro 11? 🤨
@@pyrioncelendil No but the point is bitlocker is coming to ALL version of Windows and people need to be aware of this.
Yeah, that was one hell of a nasty surprise that had me panic quite a bit. I didn't get a choice in installing the update either.
Those are the moments when I scream out loud "WHOSE COMPUTER IS THIS?"
Because it feels like I just get to hold the hardware, pay for it and occassionally borrow it whenever Microsoft isn't using it.
If BitLocker is enabled by default and Microsoft saves the BitLocker recovery keys into your Microsoft account, does this mean that Microsoft has access to everyone's files even if they're encrypted using bitlocker?
Well it's their job to keep your data safe... Those who really want their data to be safe and only in their hands will have to use another method. No, I don't know a safe method for encrypting user data, that would work with BitLocker on. So.
No. You accepting the EULA granted Microsoft access to all of your data. You silly goose. Well, perhaps your is too strong a term? I should say the data. Me data es su data. Sharing is caring.
Kudos to Microsoft on releasing a Crowdstrike simulator for home users free of charge. 👍
I can't wait till my TPM randomly deletes all its keys again and locking me out all my data.
What if you don't have access to your microsoft acct., how do you get your recovery key or get around the recovery screen?
It may not be on your Microsoft account because you don't have access or a Microsoft account, in that case the process of enabling BitLocker forced you to save the key to a USB stick or a text file. If you don't have that, that's on you.
ok but here is a question. what happens if say someone has never had bitlocker enabled ever on windows 11 regardless of rather its home version or pro version. and lets say when 24h2 does become aviliable and it installs. what happens if they get asked for a bitlocker encryption key if they have never had bitlocker enabled before ? then what. id say they pretty much stuffed up the kyber. or does the update take that into consideration and not enable bitlocker by default ?
FYI, the KB you're referencing in the thumbnail refers to the CRWD Falcon issue on Friday. This isn't really a Microsoft issue, but indeed is a Crowdstrike issue.
Crowdstrike is an apt name. They got struck alright. The whole crowd of them did.
@@1pcfred As a non-native English speaking cyber security professional, I thought you meant crowdstrike was an APT, which is something completely different 😂😂 (or is it? 🤔)
What awesome motivation for moving to Linux. God bless Linus Torvalds.
What about ppl who are using local accounts?
I guess they are the real target.
They're flushing out the last ones and pushing them to superior OSs. Whether it's Mac or GNU/Linux, escaping the MS malware is a necessity at this point.
I have a local account but don't even have Bitlocker installed on my system. And updates are blocked so it shouldn't even get enabled or installed.
Concerning to hear, given that I just received a new pc that came with win11 installed. Checked immediately if bitlocker is on or not - apparently, guys turned it off themselves already. Will keep an eye on it still, thank you very much for the info.
Bitlocker, Recall and other crappy features were invented for only 1 purpose.
To generate stupid RUclips posts? Seems to be working.
Imagine if you've set up your Windows so that it is not tied to a Microsoft account -- and you have bitlocker active
Then you should have a copy of the recovery key written down and stored somewhere safe or on a USB key... exactly as it tells you to when you enable it.
@@MadAlPlays No kidding. I didn't ask a question. I said to imagine the scenario. And in that scenario, there are going to be a lot of people who (a) refuse to tie their Windows to a Microsoft account, (b) decide for whatever reason to enable BitLocker, and (c) have failed to retain the recovery key. And I was just suggesting that people thing about that scenario, because then ya are basically SOL.
@@mbtjrThen it’s a user problem. Imagine you put diesel on your petrol tank. Oh noes, the manufacturer is at fault here. You’re about as smart as the person you describe in your scenario.
@@o0Donuts0o No shit sherlock, it is a user problem. I just said imagine how many users would be affected who have no idea what to do about it (or that they can't do anything about it without a key). You are a dunce. A dense dunce.
I didnt even know that bitlocker is a thing before this update and it is turn on by default @@o0Donuts0o
Bitlovker est il activé d'office sur les ordinateurs ? J'ai un asus portable que je ne peux actuellement pas allumer, je suis en voyage. J'ai créer mon compte Microsoft il y a environs 3/4 ans, dois-je faire quelques cjose de précis pour empêcher cela ?
This is exactly why I disable updates with third party software so I can update when I choose to. I probably haven't updated windows in months and don't plan to anytime soon.
I have mine paused, I just need a working pc
I had this happen not once, but twice this month on my work laptop. Thanks Microshaft.
How do i turn it off?
Win11 Tiny version maybe.
This is the kind of thing that freaks me out because I go out of my way to make sure bitlocker is turned off and there’s literally no way for me to save recovery keys because there are not any but I still feel like somehow, if I’m not careful, it will enable in an update and I’ll be screwed.
It never ends with Windows 11 does it. It just gets worse and worse. And you cannot even disable updates on Windows. On Linux we don't have these problems. Debian which I am on gets updated all the time but none of the updates has ever broken my system. It can happen but is very rare on Linux unless you are upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu or something like that. Even then it is still rare. I never used Bitlocker on Windows 7 there is no need. I think an account with a password is enough. Even so this should not happen. There seems to be one problem after another with Windows 11. It has to be the worst version of Windows ever.
You can totally disable updates. Using gpedit or registry tweaks, if you know what you're doing.
@@wendymotogirl I never used Windows 11 so I don't know. I was using Windows 8 before I switched to Linux 2 years ago. Still it's good to know there is a way to disable updates on Windows 11.
@@AndreaBormanYou’ve never used Windows 11 but have all this implicit information. I’ve never used Linux but once you install it you’re left with a 1970’s terminal and 1970’s commands.
A quick glance at various forums/groups show that people have problems with Linux updates and sit with broken systems all the time.
@@o0Donuts0o Tell me you've never used GNU/Linux without telling me... LOL
Great how to video, we took a hit with crowdstrike
*_Yet another major faulty MS Bitlocker update..., and just a few months after the last one!_*
🤨
Sorry, a don't you mean a few days. CrowdStrike should've been signed by Microsoft for a kernel level update.
@@robertjames4908 I was referring to about six months ago with Bitlocker update KB5034441 failing to install and displaying error 0x80070643.
@@robertjames4908 I was referring to the one six months ago that would fail to install and would leave an error message.
@@robertjames4908 Those CrowdStrike drivers were signed and WHQL certified, problem was that a configuration file (or "channel file") in that update had bad contents (all zeroes). But the CrowdStrike code handling those files should probably have had a few more validation checks before using such a file with bad contents.
This is why I hate upgrading my current Windows OS, to a newer version on the same machine. My solution is always buy a new machine - instead of screwing it up with a new OS version. For a long time, I stuck with a Windows 95 / MS-DOS ( which I still have and maintain functioning ), and I waited a long time, then upgraded to Windows XP on a new machine. Then later again I waited...... and upgraded to Windows 7 on a new machine. Then I waited again, and upgraded to Windows 10 on a new machine. I even bought a second Windows 10 computer because the first Windows 10 that I got was a gaming computer ( its a monster ). I literally wait to upgrade to a new computer with a new version of Windows, because of all the stupid problems that every Windows OS has. I keep all my old computers that I can maintain functioning. It looks like I will be doing the wait game again.....until I upgrade to a newer version of Windows - NOT Windows 11, again with a new machine. In the mean time, I am investigating Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Red Hat, and another Unix flavor called FreeBSD, that all will use USB bootable flashdrives or hard drive based OSes on my computers that can run them ( I own 6 machines ). I used to have an old version of Red Hat 8 shared with my old Windows 95 via hard drive disk trays. It will most likely be that I will use Linux Mint for my older computers, and perhaps Ubuntu or newer versions of Red Hat for my Windows 10 computers, and depending on other things ( possibly ) FreeBSD. I would like to try FreeBSD and compare it with Linux as how it works as an OS.
Ah the cost of "security".
Big tech protecting your data from you while selling it to the highest bidder.
If only privacy was profitable.
What about if a computer is not listed? I have 2/3 were listed and the third one is not on the list.
luckily I moved to windows 10 again 3 days ago, proves my point again
This happens on Windows 10 so you know
@@Britec09 the same update?
@@More_Row parts of the update (and also the one that causes the issue) are same for various OS versions.
Would bitlocker be on automatically or would i have had to do it manually?
Microsoft should be sued , this is a disgrace
Ha ha ha another one that's never read the EULA. Maybe you shouldn't just blindly accept agreements? Something in all of that text might actually matter. Like say the part where you waived your right to sue Microsoft. Because that's in there.
@@1pcfred yeah that bullshit is there, but
Nobody should be allowed to lock someone's drive without them wanting it, don't care what there is in their terms
@@tafsir5780 you caring is irrelevant. A deal is a deal. By running Windows you've agreed to all of the terms. You do not get to pick and choose which ones you like. You had the choice to decline entirely. You opted not to. So now you live by the outcome of that decision. You should have negotiated for better terms. BTW all of the terms are against you. That whole big long document was written by Microsoft to favor them. They wouldn't have bothered writing it down if it wasn't favorable to them. I have to respect the pure malevolence of it all.
This is why its nice to push security updates back by a week and feature updates by a year or so
Did they fixed this problem already?I'm kinda scared now to update it now
I like your start up menu. How do you do it?
Thankfully I have my updates set to manual and I control when they install. Had I not seen this while scrolling through I wouldn't have been able to go into my settings and turn off the bitlocker and log into my Microsoft account to recover my recovery key. Just a bit of redundancy on my part to ensure no problems. I will say nobody has mentioned whether after applying this update successfully if they experienced any issues if they decided to turn on bitlocker
authentification: Is this a new word for authentication and notification?
Does it affect all PCs that has device encryption enabled by default. I haven't configured BDE ever.
The update was installed on ryzen ThinkPad. Device encryption was enabled by default and formatted as BD disk drive but BDE is not enabled even on fresh install. Not having this issue. Is it just business users affected?
So, how do I access the Microsoft account to get they key if I am locked out of the computer?
IS MS going to fix this issue or have they already? Also is there a way to see the key before this issue happens? I have not had the problem yet but would like to know my key in case it does pop up.
Safe computing. Image your drive before every update. You should be backing up anyhow.
I just checked my 2 computers, and it says Bitlocker is "stopped", and requires a manual startup, and I don't have keys on my Microsoft account. Does this mean it's not running on my computers? And if so, am I safe from this problem? I installed Windows 10 myself on this desktop, and I don't remember activating BL.
I void bit locker for the simple reason: If my motherboard dies again, I can swap out the board, CPU and RAM, insert a blank C:\ drive, reload windows (have a problem activating it due to the hardware change again, once solved) place the old drives in and continue where I left off without too much down time.
I tried adding new memory to my PC and it wasn't able to work with it. When I replaced the old ram I got a message that Windows had removed the most recent update because I had problems with the boot process. I didn't know that ever happens.
I don't get it. I have successfully installed (09-Jul-2024) the 2024-07 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 23H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5040442) and I have no Microsoft account and Onedrive is OFF. I have a bitlocked disk, but the system don't ask me to enter the Bitlocker recovery key after the PC reboots. So what is the real problem? Is it about a more recent update, a new KBxxxxxxx whatever? Be more specific please.
i don’t have bitlock on so if it’s off already it won’t affect me?
This is one of the many reasons why I, and several friends ditched MS Windows. More and more control.
Does using local accounts bypasses auto bitlocker in the future?
Correct me if I'm wrong but with MS forcing everyone into a Microsoft Account during the initial setup of your device is Bitlocker turned on by default?
Thank you, really helpful information. After removing encryption on drives, these bit locker prompt are gone and my computer is starting normally. Also I have used some fix issues functionality via advanced troubleshooting features, Now My computer is working ok. Should I enable encryption again on drives. is it useful to enable encryption on drives, is it protecting my drive's data stored. please reply with suggestions.
It's a new security feature, if no one can login the computer is as secure as is possible.
I have that update on 23H2 Windows 11 Pro. It did not activate Bitlocker. Is it possible Microsoft will activate/reactivate in future updates? I had origianly heard that this issue would happen only with major update to 24H2!
My question - if it's disabled, can you survive this issue?
Bitlocker is not offered in the Home Editions of Windows 10 and 11, so this should not be an issue for users with these editions, who are probably the majority of users.
So how are you supposed to log into your Micro$oft account when you can’t get past the Bitlocker screen?
You saved my day. Thank you so much.
The first time i reset my windows after f*ing the os registery files, it asked for the recovery key. It took more than an evening (that too the new year one) to figure that out. 😅😅.Now I've learned my lesson😂
Don't say you heard this from me but... Windows saves a backup copy of the registry. I'm not going to tell you where it is, but if you look for it you might find it.
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus you might be correct. But it was getting stuck just before the windows boot screen.
I don't know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ about the registry backup. 😅
What if you don't have a Microsoft account? I cannot recall ever signing up for one on Windows 10. Is it possible that Microsoft signs you up sneakily?