I'm the original owner of a modded 2005 LY Evo 8, 26K original miles, garaged, well maintained ....I plan to keep it as long as possible and hope to pass it down to my daughter
Haha love how the intro was so good and the quality of video then it goes back to his regular camera. It's like taking acid and then you snap out and reality hits.
In 2007 the evo 9 SE was released. Although technically not a new car but I guess that was Mitsu’s way to refresh the 9 I own a 9 RS and love it. I daily drive it and it has been extremely fun. Honestly if I could afford another car project I would probably go for the 8 since it’s cheaper but I contemplate a X MR as a new daily.
Name User Truthfully I have only locked up the brakes once. It was still on stock pads and rotors due to an idiot who decided to slam on their brakes. It stayed pretty straight with no real issue. Now I run Stop Tech sport pads and slotted rotors and it’s pretty good other the the occasional pad material transfer which makes it feel like I have warped rotors lol
why did i just watch this whole video, i'm 15, don't live in the US and i'm kinda a wrx fanboy and will buy a wrx before i buy an evo. but they are cool
Bough an Evo X MR 2009 with 40k miles for 16k USD..in love with it. All stock(don't wanna mod it) and using it daily.. I'd say the only thing I hate is the suspension.. quite harsh.. but meh.. still having a huge smile each time I just drive it.
‘06 EVO IX RS in Wicked White with MIVEC is the ultimate Unicorn of EVO’s! Less than 354 worldwide made just one year. For the pure performance guys, it’s the one to have. Can’t believe they are not higher in price on used market.
I’ve owned my 2005 Evo 8 gsr in Rally Red since 2008, and just hit 106K miles last month. I’ve been daily driving it for the past 10 years and it’s been amazing. It took me 2 years to find a stock Evo...only had 23k miles at the time. This is the most informative video I’ve ever seen on buying an Evo. Good job!
Bought my 2006 MR new. Got it tuned at EIP in San Jose and it picked up about 30 whp. Just turned 30,000 miles and aside from tires, just regular maintenance. I never race, but I don't drive like an old lady either. The car attracts a lot of attention from people who know cars. I plan to keep it forever. Life is too short for boring cars.
Thank you for the information, I’ve always loved evos , never really knew much about them always loved them tho. I remember always buying them in need for speed games , gran tarismo .
Hi, I'm a newbie of driving, but I really like the Evo 9 and I don't have another car. I wanna let Evo 9 become my first car. Do you think it's worth it for me to buy an Evo 9 for regular driving?
I'd like to hear you go into more details about your philosophy on purchasing cars via credit instead of cash. Can you go into more details about your credit union and how you personal finance the vehicles you purchase?
Never forget that EVO's are the most reliable car.... hands down!!! Mine breaks every month, but considering that I can get 570whp out of a stock 4b11 it's a lot of fun mixed with a truck load of frustration. My 2011 EVO X has my wallet by the balls so keep that in mind when buying an EVO. Remember:DRIVE FAST AND TAKE CHANCES😜
Wow! This video is gold. Thank you very much. 9s are pretty rare in Norway. They are at like 55k+usd. Even tho I love the 9, I probably going to try to get an 8 for my first. They are around at 35k-40k here.
@@willsanders187 so which one i should buy, for u which one is the best just no evo 10 i dont like him xD i mean he is good but is not evo hart i mean engine..
Mitsubishi should watch this for lessons learned and apply this guys analytical skills on product knowledge and then train their sales people to have this type of details...they may sell more cars... but then they need to make another EVO (don't remake like the Eclipse to non relevance with the EVO nameplate). Mitsu is under Nissan now so they won't allow EVO in any form unless they need to make quick money
Had brand new 03 Evo 8. Brand new Evo 8 RS. RS was fully build. And also had used modded 2008 X. Which was a pain in the ass! Best way is to start fresh, with low miles. Evo 8 and 9 is more raw. The X is more luxury and can be fast, but making serious power and easier to work on is the 8,9 for example turbo location. I'm still thinking to buy another X but with super low miles and fully stock. It's harder to find the 9. And I'd like to see one in person. Btw. 2008 Evo and below had stickers on each panel , that way you know it's never been hit. Hood. Fenders. Doors. Rear trunk. Fenders. Yet evos are pretty cheap to modify and to fast compared to other cars out there. Including fixing them. Great video btw. Cheers
Agreed but stock is getting harder to find especially low miles. But as proven I’ll still take stock over modded even if it means higher miles. Maybe you should stop selling them! Ha obviously you come back
really great informative video dude. I've been looking at an '12 Evo X and I've been wondering whether to pay cash or finance because I've always been told just paying cash is better, but you made really strong points about that that cleared up my way of thinking. But otherwise great stuff dude! Subbed
Let me open with this- you are obviously super educated about these cars and you taught me a ton of stuff I didnt know. I liked the video and subbed. One thing I entirely disagree with is you saying that you shouldn't pay cash for a car. You cant think of any reasons why anyone would want to? What about not having to worry about car payments every month or losing money on interest? Or just being in debt in general? Personally I believe the only thing it's acceptable to make payments on is a house. American culture is all about instant gratification. How many people have car payments or have a ridiculous amount of credit cards, etc etc is a perfect indication of that. And that's coming from an American. Work, save, have no debt, and pay cash for your stuff. You'll be a whole lot more successful monetarily. Again, all that being said, fantastic video. I watched the whole thing. I'd love to hear your argument for making payments.
Your video is very helpful. I just sold my 240sx that I’ve owned for five years and I’m planning on getting an evo 8 or 9. Those cars are a little hard to come by from where I live. In the meantime I’ll continue to save up when the time comes.
@@willsanders187 quite a few reasons but mostly because of my fiancee. The weather definitely doesn't hurt though! The coldest month barely dips below freezing on a couple of days.
Ugh I hate you ha! It’s been 20’s and 30’s all week and now it’s raining for days. Seriously though that’s awesome and cool you found the videos. Let me know if you ever visit or buy an evo!
Holy shit, these Evos are so cheap Stateside. Over here in Kenya, a stock 10 from 2008/9 will cost you around $22,000+ while 8's and 9's run between $18,000 and $35,000. Funny how things are more expensive in poorer countries, while financing is more expensive and incomes are lower. That said, we're lucky as we get JDM units and some UK FQs for import. Thanks for the video.
I own a FBO evo x GSR for 4 years. Clutch, R. diff, and wear and tear. Probably costed me 4k to replace those. I drove it for about 50k miles. I miss it everyday.
great video bro! I had a evo 8 lined up today but it had rust on the rocker panel. I'm still thinking about purchasing in. The insurance is insane in NJ for a evo. I found a cleaner evo but more than I have at the moment.
One day ill buy one, hopefully. I live in alaska, all evos or stis that come up for sale are heavily modded, high mileage, rec tittle and still are asking full clean retail price 😥
Guys it’s an evo, it’ll give you problems but it’s a racecar, you’ll still love it but yeah get them you can easily build them and beat other cars haha but 7,8,9 is the best 🤣‼️🤟🏽
Also don't forget that the Evo 8 MR has a higher top speed and will actually go over 175 mph stock. I did that in my RR 2005 RS. The Evo 9 and Evo X will be limited to 155 despite having more torque. There were only 300 Evo 8 RS for the States. 150 Evo 9 RS for the States due to only one model year. Also there were only 1000 Evo 8 MR and 1500 Evo 9 MR for the States. The Evo X was better at handling but it was slower than the Evo 9 due to weight. I've owned a 8rs, 8mr, 10gsr and now the proud owner of a 9mr!
So, basically.. for a guy that is currently saving for one and plans on giving it some modifications over the years (it wouldn´t be my daily), it would be prop. best to look for evo 8 gsr. I found pretty cheap evo 8 mr 340, but i´m not sure why´s the price so low. Also, i´m affraid of the 6 speed transmission. :/
A very critical point missed in the video about the Evo X - driving dynamic is VERY different thanks to its torque vectoring rear diff (MMC calls it S-AWC ). You can look it up, but to put it on layman's terms, driving an X through corners becomes virtually effortless as the rear diff (AYC) actively distributes torque to the wheel with the most grip. An AWD car can feel like it momentarily transforms into a RWD car and oversteers for you when you need it. Then it compensates when you start slipping. Totally unlike what a mechanical rear diff does; its something that has to be experienced. And to this day it's still unreal when that "torque vectoring moment" occurs and the system engages. Makes driving the X in a "sane" fashion very difficult when you see a corner up ahead.
@@apexcentra4018the EVO that im looking at is a 2006 EVO 9 SE 5 speed manual transmission. What kind of trouble am i looking at with that type o mileage? Please advise
You think An Evo 9 GSR may be Good to me if i use it to go to college? Cause u know its fun drive it that sound i love it. the car is amazing but for daily driving and having some fun u think it's a good decision?
High risk with possible high reward. Auctions typically Caine from dealers getting rid of cars or bank repossession. So, while they can be perfectly good cars they can also be a mess that someone got rid of. I would just make sure it’s an awesome deal to cover the potential problems
Great video!! I've been wanting to buy an Evo 8/9 for years. I've noticed the prices have not dropped. I should buy one this year before the prices start going up. Wife's friend's boyfriend let me drive his 8 about 2 weeks ago in turn i let him drive my Silverado SS, I've got that itch for turbo power again.
Idk where you live but since you said Silverado I’m assuming US? You’re right about them not dropping. In fact US prices have actually been rising slightly the last couple years. They are very addictive cars
Just for fun, i browsed autotrader for evos and prices are up. I should stop daily driving and garage my 2014 X GSR with SSS package and just used it on weekend fun drives.
Meh depends. I can promise you cars as an investment are almost always terrible so do what makes you happy. When your old who wants to think back on how they sold their low mileage Evo for a few grand more versus all the crazy sh*t they did in their Evo
Damn so much info u should make a video about what is best and why is bad or good buying cash or financing and things like that focus on Evos and also more about insurances if full cover or not also i have a personal question should i buy a ralliart cash or shaould i wait more time and buy a Evo ? TY
I have more videos you may find useful. Under my Evo 101 playlist. That said I’d never pay cash for a car though. Thanks for watching and the kind words!
I have driven all working part time with my brothers friend importing evos from Japan and my brother is a mechanic and the best there is , is the Evo 3 rs and evo 4 rs
I think it's funny people who charge $5-10K more selling a car with bolt-ons automatically thinking it improves value or they'll want you to pay extra to buy back the stock parts they pulled off the car
How is it with the older evo's ( i live in germany)? Would you recommend building an evo 4, 5 or 6 for bigger horsepower (500-600)? where are the big differences between the older and the newer ones when your'e looking for power. I ask that because you really monstly see 8s 9s and 10s on youtube making big power which confuses me a bit because in fact enginewise they are the same as the newer models :) you'd really help me out with an answer on this comment thank you love your content 👍
Hey hello to Germany! The internet is so cool that we get to converse like this. You bring up some good points and while we unfortunately don’t have any Evo’s prior to the 8 I think your ideas make complete sense. I think the RUclips issue is 2 fold. 1- newer Evo’s are more popular... therefore more views. 2 - in my experience a lot of RUclipsrs are US based; again nothing prior to the 8. Appreciate the support! If you do decide to build an Evo definitely let me know!
will sanders thanks for the quick answer i only wanted to know if i might haven't thought about something important on the older models but i also think it is how you mentioned. Most Evo content really comes from the US and i guess I'm not the only one from europe thinking about building an older model. But now I know and i'll let you know when i start my project:) keep up the great content👍
I thought about buying an Evo 1 being legal now in US but idk just seems too old but and Evo 4/5/6 makes total sense. Thanks for the kind words! Good luck!
Personally I say the Evo 4/5/6 are the best evos, you mostly see 8/9 because that was what the US got. 4/5/6 has the same engines as the 7/8/9 although the 9 has Mivec. The older evos are lighter and have the same engine. Basically if you want a fast fun car go 4/5/6... if you want more of a daily driver go 8/9 (has better interior)
Yeah I see most people adding stuff without tuning them an blowing them up, or launching them an blowing the t case. But overall if you do it right an drive it respectively, the car is a beast an will last. !!
I picked mine up for 18k, 103k miles, one owner an only had a greddy exhaust. Find one thats not too modded an youll be good. 8 or 9 is a good choice, just stay away from the 6 speed trans or swap it to a 5 speed like I did. Also evolutionm.net.. Follow me on IG @punchlinejswaps
Evom is a good forum. The prices vary for many reasons. A lot of them have very visible issues if you know what to look for. Also, the 05 differs a lot from the 04 and 03. Lastly, the ixs hold higher value
Can you do a video about the Evo 7 GTA, nobody has covered much on the GTA and they are far more affordable than a manual EVO 7 and above, I'm planning on buying a GTA because it's cheap and in my budget and I will put a Evo 9 body kit on it so it looks clean
PLEASE someone help i want to buy evo but wheere i live there is only 1 evo for last 10 months and i am afraid to go on because its modified with built engine the parts are : 1) built engine with stoker 2.3l and seller says built with tomie parts . 2)ecu motec m800. 3)tein mono flex coilovers. 4)turbo gtx3076 gen 2. 5)clutch master 850 twin light. 5 gear manual. 6)Diaphragms .. its evo 9 gsr comfort with about 65km on it, keep in mind i really dont know thing about the parts and its the only evo out there, its only uses 98 gas please tell should i give it a try, and the seller says its very well maintained with best oils filters and so on ... #@will sanders any opinion please thanks
Great video. I do have a question. Im young, and not really familiar with the technical side of cars (yet). Is there a good like "checklist" you would recommend for things to look for? Like you said cold start, receipts if its modded. Im just kinda afraid to get something because im so inexperienced.
I want an Evo X someday lol. I'm still in college but someone with minimal driving experience really shouldn't have an Evo as a first car lmao. Fortunately Evo X's are still depreciating so in 5-7 years when I've saved up enough money I can possibly own one.
Ha okay no worries. If your not really a car guy but are interested in evos I’d say a X is better. If you want an older one I’d get an 8. The 9’s sell for a premium that isn’t worth it
I know not having ABS does have a limit. We still have power brakes so we can lock up with really aggressive pads to dangerous levels. I've contemplated having the power removed. Buschur makes a kit, but it hasn't been an issue so far.The SE def had the BBS and that's what I was most upset about. O well, I kept the BBS wheels from my X MR.....
I think I wish we had it here ha. 5 was the mid evolution of the 2nd generation. So... I’m inclined to think it’s similar to the 6 without the price premium of the 6. Someone correct me if I’m wrong
I’ve been trying to figure out weather I have an mr or a gsr I have a 03 it has keyless entry power windows ya know all the goodies and it has all mr badges everywhere the bbs wheels vortex generator but it’s a 5 speed
Hey man great video, so instead of saving up for another year n buying a 20k evo 9 I should lean towards a credit union ? N find one cash? Maybe even negotiate on the price too
So does this mean that an RS is really for racing specs. MR with slight tune with a little addition performance. GSR is like the stock and low end evo with no MIVEC. Is this true? I mean I'm trying to buy an EVO9 and the mods that I probably made is a little tune to the performance. Maybe doing something with the turbo lag. Idk much or anything about modification so I open to suggestion. Thanks for the help
Should a buy and evo 9 MR 133k miles that has a 6 speed transmission rebuilt with carbon syncro's and new trans internals, It also has ETS 3.5 Intercooler with lower ICP, and Injen upper ICP. Electronic Boost Controller, Stealth high flow cat and MAP o2 Open dump, and 2.5 Downpipe for 15k?
Hard to say on paper it looks ok. Some of those mods are not what I would choose which makes me question their judgement. May mean nothing; may mean everything.
will sanders Yeah man I’ve been thinking about it for a while and like you said it may mean nothing or may mean everything. I was going to buy a stock evo for 16k off a dealership I just needed to sign the contract and it was mine but the owner of the dealership sold it behind my back. Hopefully I get one soon 🙏🏼 Need to look carefully for the one. Thanks anyways! Appreciate it
Hey bro great video ! I know it’s been a while since you uploaded this but I am recently in the market for an evo 8/9 and I found one that is a very good deal with only 70k miles but it has an SRS light occasionally turning on. Should I be alarmed of this ? I know it could mean faulty airbags but idk If that is entirely true considering it comes and goes ? Thank you!
What's the BEST EVO (I love all evo years) for BOTH driving and modifying/tuning? I was thinking about the 8 but what's your opinion? (Planning to live in Japan so I'll buy one there). Thanks!
In Japan I don’t really know. In the US the 8 is the best for modding and the 10’s are the best for daily driving. I’d say the later holds true in Japan but the former probably is the 7 or 6 maybe I really don’t know. Older cars cost more to have there too I think 🤔
Should I buy an 05 evo 8 that 100k miles and the owner has a 272 cam in to it and a few supporting mods and a fully built head, it has a rebuilt title but he’s asking $12,500 for it and he doesn’t have the ac bolted up, is that A good deal for an evo of that sort ?
If you buying evo jus make sure its been serviced whelk and no rust if you’re going for a highest horsepower Evo make sure it’s a five speed because Limitado any evil you get your going to have to put money into it on maintenance such as wheelbearings and other things
Definitely going to look for a gsr , what do you think of the evo 5 , 6 and 7 , I’m in the uk and the evo 7 seem to be a lot cheaper than the evo 8 .the evo 6 seem to hold their money very well
So while I can’t really comment on the 5,6,7 because we never had them from what I’ve gathered the 6 is like the 9 and will always have a premium. 7 to 8 wasn’t a massive change
WOW. This dude is the most informed and intelligent Evo owner I've come across. Thank you!
Thanks I appreciate the kind words!!
Bet he made this account and commented.
@@willsanders187 please see my comment and give me advice ...
i'm currently in the works of buying an evo 8 and this video was very helpful!
That’s awesome! This going to be your first evo?
Same
As someone who's always loved Evos but never owned one.. this video is absolutely amazing. Thanks for the time man.
Appreciate it man! You should consider them they’re awesome ha
I have to say that this has been the most educating video I have seen on YT in months, really appreciate the finance advice
This video may be 6 years old, but it’s exactly what I needed to hear! Thanks for making a great video.
I'm the original owner of a modded 2005 LY Evo 8, 26K original miles, garaged, well maintained ....I plan to keep it as long as possible and hope to pass it down to my daughter
That’s freaking awesome! Definitely going to ensure you have a place to live when you’re old and need to live with a kid hahah
can i be your daughter? LOL.
This comment popped into my feed and I wondered why this person was asking to be my daughter hahah
Is it for sale..lol
sell it to me
Great Evo info and I could tell you've owned them all. This dude clearly knows his stuff.
Thanks!
Haha love how the intro was so good and the quality of video then it goes back to his regular camera. It's like taking acid and then you snap out and reality hits.
Lol thanks
Nice video Will, very informative. I've just bought my first EVO here in the UK. A 2004 Black FQ330
Thanks and awesome car man! Post some IG pics and tag me I’d love to see it!
Steve SAS How much did you pay?
In 2007 the evo 9 SE was released. Although technically not a new car but I guess that was Mitsu’s way to refresh the 9
I own a 9 RS and love it. I daily drive it and it has been extremely fun. Honestly if I could afford another car project I would probably go for the 8 since it’s cheaper but I contemplate a X MR as a new daily.
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I actually have smaller side Mirrors (APR carbon mirrors). I do plan on removing the A/C as I don’t ever use it.
I’m not sure if removing the fuse would have the same effect or not. I never think about it unless I have to slam the brakes.
The X’s do ride completely different. No a/c here is terrible I did it my first summer with this Evo. The problem is humidity.
@vicmreyes I was going off memory so your prob right. I just know I saw one after I bought mine and was pissed I didn't wait!
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Truthfully I have only locked up the brakes once. It was still on stock pads and rotors due to an idiot who decided to slam on their brakes. It stayed pretty straight with no real issue. Now I run Stop Tech sport pads and slotted rotors and it’s pretty good other the the occasional pad material transfer which makes it feel like I have warped rotors lol
why did i just watch this whole video, i'm 15, don't live in the US and i'm kinda a wrx fanboy and will buy a wrx before i buy an evo. but they are cool
Because your a car guy and real car people can respect other cars.
Donkey Rider: ... because you think they are cool. Stop asking questions that you already have the answer to. 2004 STI = best WRX ever.
i agree 2004's are the best
fwh79 tbh 2005 is overall better w cleaner interior and upgraded suspension, but yea I think blobeyes are the cleanest looking Subies
I've been a Mitsubishi guy since I got my license, but goddamn I love the 11-14 WRX
Bough an Evo X MR 2009 with 40k miles for 16k USD..in love with it. All stock(don't wanna mod it) and using it daily.. I'd say the only thing I hate is the suspension.. quite harsh.. but meh.. still having a huge smile each time I just drive it.
That’s awesome and a phenomenal deal too! Funny I loved the suspension in my MR but compared to my RS it may as well been an S-class ha
‘06 EVO IX RS in Wicked White with MIVEC is the ultimate Unicorn of EVO’s! Less than 354 worldwide made just one year. For the pure performance guys, it’s the one to have. Can’t believe they are not higher in price on used market.
No one wants to deal with lack of power windows. Most people don’t even know they exist
I’ve owned my 2005 Evo 8 gsr in Rally Red since 2008, and just hit 106K miles last month. I’ve been daily driving it for the past 10 years and it’s been amazing. It took me 2 years to find a stock Evo...only had 23k miles at the time. This is the most informative video I’ve ever seen on buying an Evo. Good job!
That's awesome man! Stock or full receipts is the best way to make them last! Thanks for the support:)
Bought my 2006 MR new. Got it tuned at EIP in San Jose and it picked up about 30 whp. Just turned 30,000 miles and aside from tires, just regular maintenance. I never race, but I don't drive like an old lady either. The car attracts a lot of attention from people who know cars. I plan to keep it forever. Life is too short for boring cars.
Thank you for the information, I’ve always loved evos , never really knew much about them always loved them tho. I remember always buying them in need for speed games , gran tarismo .
Haha that’s how we all learned of cars... video games
will sanders which evo do you prefer ?
Hi, I'm a newbie of driving, but I really like the Evo 9 and I don't have another car. I wanna let Evo 9 become my first car. Do you think it's worth it for me to buy an Evo 9 for regular driving?
no I would look for an 8
@@willsanders187 why? I don't like the triangle on the front bumper.
I'd like to hear you go into more details about your philosophy on purchasing cars via credit instead of cash. Can you go into more details about your credit union and how you personal finance the vehicles you purchase?
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i would like to hear more about this as well
Great review. Much love from New Zealand
Much appreciated
Never forget that EVO's are the most reliable car.... hands down!!! Mine breaks every month, but considering that I can get 570whp out of a stock 4b11 it's a lot of fun mixed with a truck load of frustration. My 2011 EVO X has my wallet by the balls so keep that in mind when buying an EVO. Remember:DRIVE FAST AND TAKE CHANCES😜
Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick 2.
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Wonder how would it run with just simple bolt ons. 450 would be enough for me
What happened to the 4G63T
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Wow! This video is gold. Thank you very much.
9s are pretty rare in Norway. They are at like 55k+usd. Even tho I love the 9, I probably going to try to get an 8 for my first. They are around at 35k-40k here.
Sheesh... guess that’s the price you have to pay to live in someplace so beautiful though!
Apa beda nya GSR dengan MR ?
I really miss my Evo 8. As soon as I pay off my current loan I am going to get another one. Nice video man
Thanks I appreciate it! Good luck on the hunt:)
Grindblast: Grindblast as in ... grindcore blastbeats? ? ?
Yes!! Haha Love me a good grind blast :D
Grindblast: Check this out. You might enjoy it. Skip to 3:50 ruclips.net/video/JPRh6nafOe8/видео.html
I do like that :D Check out this mad drummer. He's from Archspire if you've heard of them
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I want to buy an evo 7 is that bad cuz nobody tell somthing about him?
No, in fact they are awesome (at least from what I can tell). Same generation as the 8 and 9.
@@willsanders187 so which one i should buy, for u which one is the best just no evo 10 i dont like him xD i mean he is good but is not evo hart i mean engine..
Mitsubishi should watch this for lessons learned and apply this guys analytical skills on product knowledge and then train their sales people to have this type of details...they may sell more cars... but then they need to make another EVO (don't remake like the Eclipse to non relevance with the EVO nameplate). Mitsu is under Nissan now so they won't allow EVO in any form unless they need to make quick money
Appreciate this! And I’d rather they keep the evo dead vs some bs crossover crap!
what about 6 and 7 series? How they place between the 8 or 9
not in the us
Had brand new 03 Evo 8. Brand new Evo 8 RS. RS was fully build. And also had used modded 2008 X. Which was a pain in the ass! Best way is to start fresh, with low miles. Evo 8 and 9 is more raw. The X is more luxury and can be fast, but making serious power and easier to work on is the 8,9 for example turbo location. I'm still thinking to buy another X but with super low miles and fully stock. It's harder to find the 9. And I'd like to see one in person. Btw. 2008 Evo and below had stickers on each panel , that way you know it's never been hit. Hood. Fenders. Doors. Rear trunk. Fenders. Yet evos are pretty cheap to modify and to fast compared to other cars out there. Including fixing them. Great video btw. Cheers
Agreed but stock is getting harder to find especially low miles. But as proven I’ll still take stock over modded even if it means higher miles. Maybe you should stop selling them! Ha obviously you come back
@@willsanders187 right? i found evox with 14k miles, 100% stock... 1 owner.
My 14 MR was 19k miles 1 owner. It’s a make you feel good feeling
Excellent review & advice !
really great informative video dude. I've been looking at an '12 Evo X and I've been wondering whether to pay cash or finance because I've always been told just paying cash is better, but you made really strong points about that that cleared up my way of thinking. But otherwise great stuff dude! Subbed
Glad it helped! Cash is always king. Keep it whenever you can.
cant find an 8 or 9 tahts going for less than 17-18k. only ones i can find close to 15 are auto evo X's :/
15 is a hard number for these cars. Just to be clear though the auto is actually a dual clutch transmission that's . pretty sweet.
Let me open with this- you are obviously super educated about these cars and you taught me a ton of stuff I didnt know. I liked the video and subbed. One thing I entirely disagree with is you saying that you shouldn't pay cash for a car. You cant think of any reasons why anyone would want to? What about not having to worry about car payments every month or losing money on interest? Or just being in debt in general? Personally I believe the only thing it's acceptable to make payments on is a house. American culture is all about instant gratification. How many people have car payments or have a ridiculous amount of credit cards, etc etc is a perfect indication of that. And that's coming from an American. Work, save, have no debt, and pay cash for your stuff. You'll be a whole lot more successful monetarily. Again, all that being said, fantastic video. I watched the whole thing. I'd love to hear your argument for making payments.
my interest rate was 3%... the average return is 6-8%. So by paying cash and "saving interest" it would have actually COST 3-5%
I love how you put up the WRX for a brief second when talking about modding lmao
Gotta get the jabs when you can
Your video is very helpful. I just sold my 240sx that I’ve owned for five years and I’m planning on getting an evo 8 or 9. Those cars are a little hard to come by from where I live. In the meantime I’ll continue to save up when the time comes.
Hey that’s great the video helped. Just have to be patient with Evos. I searched on and off for years
89' 240sx best
Great video! Shout-out to a fellow Cincinnatian. I live Down Under now and I'm hoping to pick up a JDM EVO 7 or 8 next year.
That’s quite the move! Job transfer or just got tires of 4 season weather on the same day?
@@willsanders187 quite a few reasons but mostly because of my fiancee. The weather definitely doesn't hurt though! The coldest month barely dips below freezing on a couple of days.
Ugh I hate you ha! It’s been 20’s and 30’s all week and now it’s raining for days. Seriously though that’s awesome and cool you found the videos. Let me know if you ever visit or buy an evo!
@@willsanders187 thanks man! I wish I knew about your channel sooner, I was literally just there at the end of November! Haha
Ha no worries next time!
Man you guys are missing out on the older versions lol. Great video man
Sorry for my late response. Yes we definitely are. Thanks for the support!!
Holy shit, these Evos are so cheap Stateside. Over here in Kenya, a stock 10 from 2008/9 will cost you around $22,000+ while 8's and 9's run between $18,000 and $35,000. Funny how things are more expensive in poorer countries, while financing is more expensive and incomes are lower. That said, we're lucky as we get JDM units and some UK FQs for import. Thanks for the video.
Yea the world is funny that way. There’s just less cool cars than there is rich people so prices go up. I’d love to have more lenient import laws!
Ya
I own a FBO evo x GSR for 4 years. Clutch, R. diff, and wear and tear. Probably costed me 4k to replace those. I drove it for about 50k miles. I miss it everyday.
Hopefully not the first 50k
Great Video! They are great cars! I still have my 03 Evo 8 first few in the US. There was no models yet. So it's just the 8.
Ah.... simple times.
great video bro! I had a evo 8 lined up today but it had rust on the rocker panel. I'm still thinking about purchasing in. The insurance is insane in NJ for a evo. I found a cleaner evo but more than I have at the moment.
Better to be patient usually. Could always have a body shop give you an estimate and factor into your offer
@@willsanders187 the dealer only wants 12K with 129. Timing belt and water pump just done. The dealer is firm on that price. All stock but exhaust.
depends on the year and overall mechanical conditions
Wow I'm saving up for a evo 8 and your video has really helped! Hi from the u. K!
Awesome! I appreciate it. Sorry for the late reply. Keep in mind UK specs are different
@@willsanders187 oh yeah, we have more of a option! I. E the evo 6 and 7 is well! 😁 # what's the main difference between the 7 and 8!
I know 6 to 7 was a big change
One day ill buy one, hopefully. I live in alaska, all evos or stis that come up for sale are heavily modded, high mileage, rec tittle and still are asking full clean retail price 😥
Well I mean... Alaska 🤷♂️. Kinda the price you pay ha. Need to just come to the lower 48 and drive one back
Guys it’s an evo, it’ll give you problems but it’s a racecar, you’ll still love it but yeah get them you can easily build them and beat other cars haha but 7,8,9 is the best 🤣‼️🤟🏽
Well said!
Also don't forget that the Evo 8
MR has a higher top speed and will actually go over 175 mph stock. I did that in my RR 2005 RS. The Evo 9 and Evo X will be limited to 155 despite having more torque. There were only 300 Evo 8 RS for the States. 150 Evo 9 RS for the States due to only one model year. Also there were only 1000 Evo 8 MR and 1500 Evo 9 MR for the States. The Evo X was better at handling but it was slower than the Evo 9 due to weight. I've owned a 8rs, 8mr, 10gsr and now the proud owner of a 9mr!
You have a problem. Trust me I recognize the symptoms
So, basically.. for a guy that is currently saving for one and plans on giving it some modifications over the years (it wouldn´t be my daily), it would be prop. best to look for evo 8 gsr. I found pretty cheap evo 8 mr 340, but i´m not sure why´s the price so low. Also, i´m affraid of the 6 speed transmission. :/
So you’re obviously in Europe and I think more models there have the 6-speed. I wouldn’t let it stop me.
@@willsanders187 Alright, thanks for response... do you feel like 5 speed swap is worth it or just wait if something goes wrong?
So what are the best years and performance between the lancer and Subaru???
Can’t say for Subaru’s but Evos are probably 03-05
A very critical point missed in the video about the Evo X - driving dynamic is VERY different thanks to its torque vectoring rear diff (MMC calls it S-AWC ).
You can look it up, but to put it on layman's terms, driving an X through corners becomes virtually effortless as the rear diff (AYC) actively distributes torque to the wheel with the most grip. An AWD car can feel like it momentarily transforms into a RWD car and oversteers for you when you need it. Then it compensates when you start slipping. Totally unlike what a mechanical rear diff does; its something that has to be experienced.
And to this day it's still unreal when that "torque vectoring moment" occurs and the system engages. Makes driving the X in a "sane" fashion very difficult when you see a corner up ahead.
I just liked watching the little display tell me which wheels were getting power
All evos since the evo 4 have torque vectoring. It’s only in the USA they don’t have it because your evos are neutered versions
Should i buy an EVO 9. 178K miles, unmodified, all stock no rust. its whole life in texas and CA?
Julio Lucero i would never buy a used car with over 100k miles or you are asking for trouble my man especially with an evo
@@apexcentra4018the EVO that im looking at is a 2006 EVO 9 SE 5 speed manual transmission. What kind of trouble am i looking at with that type o mileage?
Please advise
Sorry I'm so behind on comments but I bought mine with 120k. Mileage doesn't matter so much as overall care, condition and up keep.
Definitely know how to work on engines if you get an evo it’s a lot of fun but a lot of work trust me🙏🏼
You think An Evo 9 GSR may be Good to me if i use it to go to college? Cause u know its fun drive it that sound i love it. the car is amazing but for daily driving and having some fun u think it's a good decision?
I had an Evo 9 GSR in college. Good way to make college even more overpriced hahah but it was fun
@@willsanders187 hahaha Ok Thanks firts youtuber that reply new sub 💖
Really? That’s terrible! I’m far from perfect but I try to respond to questions albeit a bit slow at times
Thanks for the interesting informative video.
Q: was your Evo 8 RS came with stock steel wheels?
What do you thing a buying evo in auction? i am talking about 8 or 9 models.
High risk with possible high reward. Auctions typically Caine from dealers getting rid of cars or bank repossession. So, while they can be perfectly good cars they can also be a mess that someone got rid of. I would just make sure it’s an awesome deal to cover the potential problems
@@willsanders187 would you buy evo from auction or not, its worth try to risk?
Not sure if you saw my response. Basically only if the deal could cover a lot of potential problems
Answer for the thumbnail: Definitely yes
Why? People nowadays treat these kind of rally cars are supercars
Pretty much. Values seem to have leveled and are going up
Great video!! I've been wanting to buy an Evo 8/9 for years. I've noticed the prices have not dropped. I should buy one this year before the prices start going up. Wife's friend's boyfriend let me drive his 8 about 2 weeks ago in turn i let him drive my Silverado SS, I've got that itch for turbo power again.
Idk where you live but since you said Silverado I’m assuming US? You’re right about them not dropping. In fact US prices have actually been rising slightly the last couple years. They are very addictive cars
Just for fun, i browsed autotrader for evos and prices are up. I should stop daily driving and garage my 2014 X GSR with SSS package and just used it on weekend fun drives.
Meh depends. I can promise you cars as an investment are almost always terrible so do what makes you happy. When your old who wants to think back on how they sold their low mileage Evo for a few grand more versus all the crazy sh*t they did in their Evo
Damn so much info u should make a video about what is best and why is bad or good buying cash or financing and things like that focus on Evos and also more about insurances if full cover or not also i have a personal question should i buy a ralliart cash or shaould i wait more time and buy a Evo ? TY
I have more videos you may find useful. Under my Evo 101 playlist. That said I’d never pay cash for a car though. Thanks for watching and the kind words!
I have driven all working part time with my brothers friend importing evos from Japan and my brother is a mechanic and the best there is , is the Evo 3 rs and evo 4 rs
We’re close to being able to get those here!!
will sanders i'm thrilled to hear that , can't wait !!! would love to see some new content
Evo will be back any day now!
I think it's funny people who charge $5-10K more selling a car with bolt-ons automatically thinking it improves value or they'll want you to pay extra to buy back the stock parts they pulled off the car
Best case mods don’t lower value in my opinion. Maybe if you happen to have the EXACT mods/ brands I planned to buy
@@willsanders187 they do lower value since the engine has had more power put through it, increasing wear. same thing as increasing milage.
Good points generally people who mod drive harder despite them always say they don’t haha
what different between EVO9 MR and EVO9 GSR?
How is it with the older evo's ( i live in germany)? Would you recommend building an evo 4, 5 or 6 for bigger horsepower (500-600)? where are the big differences between the older and the newer ones when your'e looking for power. I ask that because you really monstly see 8s 9s and 10s on youtube making big power which confuses me a bit because in fact enginewise they are the same as the newer models :) you'd really help me out with an answer on this comment thank you love your content 👍
Hey hello to Germany! The internet is so cool that we get to converse like this. You bring up some good points and while we unfortunately don’t have any Evo’s prior to the 8 I think your ideas make complete sense. I think the RUclips issue is 2 fold. 1- newer Evo’s are more popular... therefore more views. 2 - in my experience a lot of RUclipsrs are US based; again nothing prior to the 8. Appreciate the support! If you do decide to build an Evo definitely let me know!
will sanders thanks for the quick answer i only wanted to know if i might haven't thought about something important on the older models but i also think it is how you mentioned. Most Evo content really comes from the US and i guess I'm not the only one from europe thinking about building an older model. But now I know and i'll let you know when i start my project:) keep up the great content👍
I thought about buying an Evo 1 being legal now in US but idk just seems too old but and Evo 4/5/6 makes total sense. Thanks for the kind words! Good luck!
Personally I say the Evo 4/5/6 are the best evos, you mostly see 8/9 because that was what the US got. 4/5/6 has the same engines as the 7/8/9 although the 9 has Mivec.
The older evos are lighter and have the same engine. Basically if you want a fast fun car go 4/5/6... if you want more of a daily driver go 8/9 (has better interior)
Nicholas Seeto your'e absolutely right dude:)
Awesome video! How come with the MR you say to expect to change the transmission? Is there something that goes wrong with it?
if you're hard on it i.e. autoX or racing it just isn't as strong. As a normal car it's fine
I own a 2005 Evo 8 MR in 2018. Just bought it a few months ago actually.
Best fkn car ive owed ! Im making 460hp with basic bolt ons an a good tune.
Yep! Super easy to mod. Unfortunately, that’s what causes a lot of issues for people who mess them up. Enjoy it!!
Yeah I see most people adding stuff without tuning them an blowing them up, or launching them an blowing the t case. But overall if you do it right an drive it respectively, the car is a beast an will last. !!
Hey guys im about to pick up an 8 or 9 .... but the prices are all over the price .... can you point me to an evo forum and also great work✊️
I picked mine up for 18k, 103k miles, one owner an only had a greddy exhaust. Find one thats not too modded an youll be good.
8 or 9 is a good choice, just stay away from the 6 speed trans or swap it to a 5 speed like I did. Also evolutionm.net.. Follow me on IG @punchlinejswaps
Evom is a good forum. The prices vary for many reasons. A lot of them have very visible issues if you know what to look for. Also, the 05 differs a lot from the 04 and 03. Lastly, the ixs hold higher value
Very informative. Love the vid bro🤘
[‘14 X MR Touring]
thanks!
Can you do a video about the Evo 7 GTA, nobody has covered much on the GTA and they are far more affordable than a manual EVO 7 and above, I'm planning on buying a GTA because it's cheap and in my budget and I will put a Evo 9 body kit on it so it looks clean
PLEASE someone help i want to buy evo but wheere i live there is only 1 evo for last 10 months and i am afraid to go on because its modified with built engine the parts are :
1) built engine with stoker 2.3l and seller says built with tomie parts .
2)ecu motec m800.
3)tein mono flex coilovers.
4)turbo gtx3076 gen 2.
5)clutch master 850 twin light. 5 gear manual.
6)Diaphragms ..
its evo 9 gsr comfort with about 65km on it, keep in mind i really dont know thing about the parts and its the only evo out there, its only uses 98 gas please tell should i give it a try, and the seller says its very well maintained with best oils filters and so on ...
#@will sanders any opinion please thanks
evo 10 has torque vectoring right? doesnt that make a massive improvement for handling when you have high hp?
I think it helps regardless the hp
Thank you for the video , what do you like to invest in now , also I like your channel and list of cars you used to own!
Thanks I appreciate it! I don’t invest in cars lol. Stocks mostly.
Trading my 5gen Camaro ss for a evo as soon as I find the right one , leaning towards a 8 ... video helped a lot
Glad it helped! IF you have any questions let me know!
what's the difference between GSR and MR?
Great video. I do have a question. Im young, and not really familiar with the technical side of cars (yet). Is there a good like "checklist" you would recommend for things to look for? Like you said cold start, receipts if its modded. Im just kinda afraid to get something because im so inexperienced.
I have some Evo specific videos:
ruclips.net/video/E9UEumKu99E/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/uIvofRIZf6o/видео.html
@@willsanders187 Thanks... really appreciate it. U have great vids...
which year evo should i buy? (evo 8&9)
Both. It’s like baseball cards better to have a complete set.
See my Evo 8 vs 9 video :)
Hey man do you think an evo 9 is a good first car
New video tonight on this
will sanders thanks man
I want an Evo X someday lol. I'm still in college but someone with minimal driving experience really shouldn't have an Evo as a first car lmao. Fortunately Evo X's are still depreciating so in 5-7 years when I've saved up enough money I can possibly own one.
Idk awesome handling and phenomenal brakes would be nice to have at any stage in life. Lol
Should I buy a evo 8 for my first car ? I’m 17 and was thinking between evo 8 or a Subaru Impreza
Depends what kind of man you want to be... ha jk I drove them both at about your age and liked the Sti but loved the evo.
Ask Dad for a ten.
Lol
What do y’all think a 2006 evo 8 it has 82k miles for 24k
My first concern is there is no 2006 Evo 8; at least in the US. Do you mean an Evo 9?
will sanders 😂😂 yeah I’m not really a car guy but it’s sold already thanks for the reply tho
Ha okay no worries. If your not really a car guy but are interested in evos I’d say a X is better. If you want an older one I’d get an 8. The 9’s sell for a premium that isn’t worth it
Would you recommend buying an Evo 7?
I know not having ABS does have a limit. We still have power brakes so we can lock up with really aggressive pads to dangerous levels. I've contemplated having the power removed. Buschur makes a kit, but it hasn't been an issue so far.The SE def had the BBS and that's what I was most upset about. O well, I kept the BBS wheels from my X MR.....
What your thoughts about evo V? 🤔
I think I wish we had it here ha. 5 was the mid evolution of the 2nd generation. So... I’m inclined to think it’s similar to the 6 without the price premium of the 6. Someone correct me if I’m wrong
Which is better bro 6 or 9?
Evo 8 clean title 177k built head for 10,500?
Not enough to go on. Seems underpriced meaning damage or issues.
I’ve been trying to figure out weather I have an mr or a gsr I have a 03 it has keyless entry power windows ya know all the goodies and it has all mr badges everywhere the bbs wheels vortex generator but it’s a 5 speed
If it’s a US car it’s a GSR
will sanders thank you🙏🏻
No problem. MR didn’t come until 05
Hey man great video, so instead of saving up for another year n buying a 20k evo 9 I should lean towards a credit union ? N find one cash? Maybe even negotiate on the price too
Credit unions “can” have more flexibility with financing older cars. I wouldn’t ever pay cash
So does this mean that an RS is really for racing specs. MR with slight tune with a little addition performance. GSR is like the stock and low end evo with no MIVEC. Is this true? I mean I'm trying to buy an EVO9 and the mods that I probably made is a little tune to the performance. Maybe doing something with the turbo lag. Idk much or anything about modification so I open to suggestion. Thanks for the help
RS is more race geared where GSR is everyday amenities. MR is kinda both together
For the ozzys evo 7 same platform awesome evo aswell
Good to know! Thanks
Should a buy and evo 9 MR 133k miles that has a 6 speed transmission rebuilt with carbon syncro's and new trans internals, It also has ETS 3.5 Intercooler with lower ICP, and Injen upper ICP. Electronic Boost Controller, Stealth high flow cat and MAP o2 Open dump, and 2.5 Downpipe for 15k?
Hard to say on paper it looks ok. Some of those mods are not what I would choose which makes me question their judgement. May mean nothing; may mean everything.
will sanders Yeah man I’ve been thinking about it for a while and like you said it may mean nothing or may mean everything. I was going to buy a stock evo for 16k off a dealership I just needed to sign the contract and it was mine but the owner of the dealership sold it behind my back. Hopefully I get one soon 🙏🏼 Need to look carefully for the one. Thanks anyways! Appreciate it
They sell super fast! It’s like 1964 you sleep in the car if you have too!
That’s a mustang reference btw
What is the opinion on JDM Evo IV’s? Found one for $6500 CAD.
Seems cool and I’d totally consider it since we can’t get anything like that here. If your asking if it’s a good value/price I can’t say
will sanders thx for replying
No problem! Let me know how it turns out
Hey bro great video ! I know it’s been a while since you uploaded this but I am recently in the market for an evo 8/9 and I found one that is a very good deal with only 70k miles but it has an SRS light occasionally turning on. Should I be alarmed of this ? I know it could mean faulty airbags but idk If that is entirely true considering it comes and goes ?
Thank you!
sorry just saw this. msg me on IG ThatWillSanders if you have questions still
Looking to get an evo 9. It has 90k miles and they are asking 24k$....is it worth it?
Maybe. 9 prices are high especially under 100k. Unfortunately there isn’t many for sale to compare to. An 8 would be much cheaper
@@willsanders187 how long do these engines last. Are they bullet proof?
They’re over engineered so with regular maintenance no reason to not clear 200k easily
Why would people give this video a thumbs down?
Thanks! Appreciate the support!
usually kids who dont have evo's
@@mrcokez1 or they Scooby lovers 😂
I have a Evo 9 with 80k miles
Stupid clean. Has factory stickers on the driver door still lol
What's the BEST EVO (I love all evo years) for BOTH driving and modifying/tuning? I was thinking about the 8 but what's your opinion? (Planning to live in Japan so I'll buy one there). Thanks!
In Japan I don’t really know. In the US the 8 is the best for modding and the 10’s are the best for daily driving. I’d say the later holds true in Japan but the former probably is the 7 or 6 maybe I really don’t know. Older cars cost more to have there too I think 🤔
@@willsanders187 yea I think I'll get an 8 in the long run. They look so cool.
Drop me a line when it happens! Moving to Japan for school or work?
@@willsanders187 I'm American (white) but I was born in Japan. Dream is to teach in Japan. Teaching is my major.
Ah nice. My wife’s a teacher. I don’t have the patience to be one I’d get fired ha
Evos have stopped the depreciation process and started the appreciation process
3,6,8,9 evos are my favourite
I’m a 4 or 9 type guy
would love to buy an evo but the UK insurance got me coughing, 180£ a month. while i could get a 2023 supra for 110£ a month ,
Should I buy an 05 evo 8 that 100k miles and the owner has a 272 cam in to it and a few supporting mods and a fully built head, it has a rebuilt title but he’s asking $12,500 for it and he doesn’t have the ac bolted up, is that A good deal for an evo of that sort ?
First, sorry for late response. See latest videos for explanation. To answer your question no ******* way should you buy that car
If you buying evo jus make sure its been serviced whelk and no rust if you’re going for a highest horsepower Evo make sure it’s a five speed because Limitado any evil you get your going to have to put money into it on maintenance such as wheelbearings and other things
I’ve always wanted an evo, since the 8/9s came out. The way the market is for them and the condition they come in, i don’t believe I’d ever own one :(
You have to really want one. There’s no real logic to owning one lol
I feel like getting a Evo 8 but Idk if I want MR or gsr edit: need modding/tuning capabilitie good aftermarket
Both are perfectly fine for modding. Almost all parts are the same when modding
@@willsanders187 thx I was a little confused 😂😂😂🖒
No problem!
Will the motor and drive train on the 8 fits right into the 9 ?
I really want an evo
make a plan...
@@willsanders187 yeah bro... It will happen this year.
I want an evo/8/9 don’t know what one to go for , mr rs gsr
it depends... GSR is typically the best value.
Definitely going to look for a gsr , what do you think of the evo 5 , 6 and 7 , I’m in the uk and the evo 7 seem to be a lot cheaper than the evo 8 .the evo 6 seem to hold their money very well
So while I can’t really comment on the 5,6,7 because we never had them from what I’ve gathered the 6 is like the 9 and will always have a premium. 7 to 8 wasn’t a massive change
I have a few questions i am thinking about buying a 10 evo x 10 se has 69 k and the guy wants 19 k is that a good deal thinks for your input
depends on condition, mods etc but its in the ball park
What is cold start?
Are you asking what a cold start is in general or asking why I didn’t start it in this video?
in general
Just starting up a car thats been sitting so it’s “cold”. They typically have a different sound than once they are warmed up.