It's time to talk about fascism
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- No one wants to talk about fascism, but unless we do, and realise what is required to beat it, then we are all in the deepest of trouble.
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1. The mythical past-used to invoke a nostalgia for a fictional time when the nation was great as it was not yet sullied by the “Other.”
2. Propaganda-to attack enemies, to justify violence, to justify laws against “Them” and to support the authoritarian leader.
3. Anti-intellectualism-to attack the media, universities, and scientists when they contradict the strong man’s authority.
4. Unreality-supporting conspiracy theories that tarnish the “Other” along with an outright denial of facts when convenient.
5. Hierarchy-espousing a “natural order” where the “Us” are hardworking, moral, law-abiding and productive members of society, while the “Other” is not.
6. Victimhood-casting “Us” as victims of “Them”, who are taking resources from “Us” and demanding special rights.
7. Law and order-using laws to justify violence, oppression, and expulsion of the “Other”.
8. Sexual anxiety-as the “Other” embraces non-traditional approaches to sexuality,
9. Appeals to the heartland-as rural communities are often more homogeneous and conservative (more “Us”) while urban cities are often more diverse, cosmopolitan (more “Them”).
10. Dismantling of public welfare and unity-by casting aside safety net programs as unfair giveaways to “Them”, who are not working, as opposed to “Us”, who are.
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The liberty of a democracy is not safe if people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power-FDR
Soros anyone?
@@mrradman2986 W⚓
@@zetectic7968 That's one of the kinder things said about him.
Wrong. Not only is that antithetical to Fascism but it is also the complete opposite of it. What you are referring to is known as Corporatocracy, a completely different thing.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.that's was Franklin D Roosevelt speaking to Congress in 1938 after he sent research groups too Italy, Spain and of course Germany.
In fact many economists like Jürgen Kuczynski who say it's basically Monopolistic Markets and Capitalism.
The major drivers of fascism are poverty and lack of agency. Decentralising our state and allowing people to participate more regularly in decision making for their community together with devolved budgets would go a long way to countering this drift. This would really be ‘taking back control’
Decentralising only make neoliberalism and globalism stronger.
@@aion5837 That’s not an outcome that I’ve come across before. Tell me why you think that.
@@user-wq9lb6vp2h I'd think that only a more centralized state has the power to control transnational corporations which is why they constantly rail against "big government".
Ironically, they also depend on the enormous handouts of our tax dollars but I'll be darned if I've ever heard one of them admit to that.
Yells "Trump is a fascist", meanwhile the US fascist state goes rolling on, knowing its direction of travel will not change regardless who's President.
You can't see the forest for the trees.
Exactly - new system needed.
did you perhaps miss the simplicity of the message on the economy. " It is obvious that you cannot spend more than you get" which was Thatchers neoliberal appeal. Remember that to every complex question there is a very simple answer, which is of course, wrong.
A lot of what you suggest is out of Stalin's playbook
can you supply a page reference?
Stalin was a fascist. Animal Farm makes it clear.
Tories will join up with Reform. New name “Conform”.
Brilliant never realised that
Oh nice.
That is sooooooo stolen 😁
"Fuck you, I'm going to do what you tell me."
Then Reform becomes Tory again who broke the country
Then we would have fascism
Something important to note when I was listening to this. Some will be thinking that we don't want legal routes because there will be too many people in the UK, But "Boat people" are only a small fraction of immigrants that come into the UK. We actually need immigrants to help our workforce.
It is the duty of those of us who can, to help those of us who can't. And without prejudice. That is the definition of society.
PFI (Plutocracy and Fascism Intertwining) 😞
do fascists dream in fascism
@PhilipMatthewsPAEACP While Rishi Sunak sleeps each week of slothful slumber he takes £1,000,000 from starving poverty stricken children he strikes with economic boot and Labour won't tax his sin or stay his fist as they back a savage atomic apartheid
I’ve been thinking along the lines of this video since the 2008 banking crisis. I noticed a change back then but identified it as a rise in psychopathy. I think we’ve seen more than a few psychopaths in the ranks of the mentioned parties. Great video, keep it up!
Yeah, it's not like the 1930s either where the centrist, UK National Government was relatively effective at holding the fort of democracy, even if I think it would've been better if they hadn't basically imposed the problem with extreme austerity, but nowadays 'End of History' dogma has led centrist parties in France, Germany and some of the Nordic Countries to appease or even enable the far-right (often out of some misguided attempt to discredit the most insane candidates). The problem with neoliberals is they can't really believe it's possible that significant societal change can come for the better or far, far worse and have a terrible understanding of how to act on social and socioeconomic problems to prevent the likes of fascism.
This is worrying. With these 10 traits of fascism you seem to have covered about 70% of the UK population.
😧 Indeed, as demonstrated by the outcome of the Brexit referendum. The ‘Leave’ campaign played upon bigotry, hatred, ignorance and prejudice wrapped in xenophobia that all fascists use to win popularity. But who are the losers . . . the lumpen proletariat, of course. Not the wealthy elite such as Cameron or May or Bozo the clown or a lettuce or a would be citizen of the USA 😡!
I really hope it’s not that much
Those random traits have very little to do with Fascism per se. They apply to almost every authoritarian/totalitarian regime.
~It includes me
This video makes fascism way cooler than it really is.
This is a truly brilliant but simple video. It becomes very clear that much of what is happening is straight out of the literal fascist handbook
Murphy is lying to you. Experts agree that Farage, Le Pen and Trump are not fascist.
Also worrying is authoritarianism in the LP since the arrival of Starmer. We should not be complacent.
Not to mention the racist language now being used openly by the leadership and the punching down on people reliant on welfare to survive.
The rather good little marksman.
More dangerous as he is the fox and Farage the wolf, but both end up eating you. The Fox eats with a smile.
When people feel their policy preferences are not represented by the government, it can fuel populist attitudes.
While populism itself is not fascism, it can create vulnerabilities in democratic systems that fascist movements can easily exploit.
Policies influence people's attitudes, and attitudes in turn shape policies.
Populism creates a fertile ground for fascist ideologies to take root and grow. It erodes democratic norms, promotes an "us vs. them" mentality, and often scapegoats minority groups. These elements are core to fascist movements.
There is a cyclical effect where public opinion and policy mutually impact each other over time.
Brilliant synopsis!
Very glad you are flagging this -
I am working on this issue in a civil society organisation (The Democracy Network)
I sincerely hope the democracy network understand that Farage, Trump and Le Pen are not fascists.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 unless you know what the word means
@@paulinskipukprogressive4903 Experts such as Roger Griffin, David Renton, Cas Mudde, Daniel Woodley and Nigel Copsey all agree that Farage, Le Pen and Trump and not fascists.
I hope The Democracy Network are not ignoring the advice of experts.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 I would question the expertise of your experts here
To put it mildly
@@paulinskipukprogressive4903 Roger Griffin, for example, is one of the world’s leading academics on fascism.
Thank you so much for your work Richard
"...For at that date Hitler was still respectable. He had crushed the German labour movement, and for that the property-owning classes were willing to forgive him almost anything. Both Left and Right concurred in the very shallow notion that National Socialism was merely a version of Conservatism.Then suddenly it turned out that Hitler was not respectable after all..."
-- George Orwell, 1940.
Soo, authoritarians offer you freedom but actually hate free people. (butter fingers typo)
Absolutely correct.
I agree with you 100% Richard. Thank you for these valuable insights. Trump, Le Pen and Orban are very rich so why would they defend the poor in society?
Because they are focused on defending the society itself. If you don't do that, you can't defend anyone else.
Very interesting. I have listened to and learned from Richards ideas on finance. It is his specialism.
Here, we have heard his political views.
Apart from the telltale signs of Hierarchy, the Sexual one and dismantling the Welfare State, he would see me as a Fascist.
I've always regarded myself as an ordinary working bloke who grew up on a council estate in the industrial Black Country, did an apprenticeship in a steel mill and so on.
I believe I'm responsible for myself and family and have to work hard and be sensible to do so, but am willing to help anyone who is genuinely down on their luck and needs a hand. I want strong law and order and consequences for anyone harming others.
I like the idea of Democracy, since I want a say in decisions taken about my country, which I love (though recognising its failings)
I value education and admire high intelligence when I encounter it, but have noticed that some very intelligent, highly educated people are severely lacking in common sense.
Our University sector shows this in spadefuls. They expect to be decision makers and deride the common man's views as being inferior to their own.
Stick with finance, Richard, and leave politics to the individual. The people of this country, on the whole are decent folk and are capable of spotting an evil ideology themselves, without guidance from academics.
Read "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis for a pretty good description of fascism.
Can you do one on religion influencing politics?
Consider the essential tools for imposing fascism such as mass surveillance, a state digital identity and central bank digital currency and then look at where the push for implementation of these tools is coming from and who is behind it, (hint WEF) to see the real source of fascism.
Exactly. They don't even care about our democracy anymore. Sunak has no mandate to rule.
For years ago should’ve woken people up when they introduced the dart passports --$&@97
Well said.
Thank you for outlining so clearly the genuine possibility of our democracies sliding into fascism. It's deeply troubling to admit it, but we must face the threat with open eyes in order to defeat it.
Murphy is lying to you.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 Okay, so please will you tell me the truth?
@@marijo1951 Experts such as Roger Griffin, David Renton, Cas Mudde, Daniel Woodley and Nigel Copsey all agree that Farage, Trump and Le Pen are not fascists.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 You don't exactly demolish Richard's argument or prove him to be "lying" by showing you know these names. None of them deny the malign and dangerous nature of these politicians, but they argue in various ways that they differ from classic historical fascists. We all know, for example, that Marine Le Pen has been very careful to distance herself from her father's Hitler worshipping. She's using more subtle insidious methods to establish Fascism in France. However you choose to describe Farage, do you want him to be part of our mainstream politics?
@@marijo1951 Pointing to these leading experts clearly destroys Murphy’s lies.
4:09 Organisation
Firstly, the term 'Fascism/Fascist' come from the Italian 'fascio' meaning "group, association”, literally "bundle," from the Latin 'fasces' - a bundle of rods containing an axe with the blade projecting" which was carried before a lictor, a superior Roman magistrate, as a symbol of power over life and limb. The observant may have noticed that two bronze fasces hang behind the rostrum of the U.S. Capital and in the Chamber, the fasces are symbols of the authority of the U.S. House of Representatives as part of the Congress. Well fancy that, the U.S.A. was 'Fascist' from the beginning!! Actually 'no' which leads to the point the labels, names and symbols can be misleading.
As Bill Clinton said, "It's the economy stupid!!". Referring to Trump and the Republicans as 'Fascists' is as historically and politically inept and ignorant as Trump referring to the Democrats as 'Marxists', 'Socialists', 'Communists' AND 'Fascists'!! ('Fascism while being 'Authoritarian' is NOT a catch-all term for all forms of Authoritarianism'!)
As far as the national economy is concerned the Democrats are to the 'Right' of 'Fascism' and the Republicans are further to the 'Right' again. Both the Democrats and the Republicans support 'Liberal' economics* (ie. 'free-market capitalism') with the Republicans fully embracing Neo Liberalism (where there is next to no role for the government in providing goods, services and the regulation of commerce and business.)
On the contrary, the former (expelled) editor of the Italian Socialist Party's newspaper 'Avanti' ('Forward'), Benito Mussolini said regarding the 'movement' that he now led, "We Fascists bury Liberal Economics!" This statement arose from the Fascists adopting elements of the socioeconomic theories of "Corporatism'' (look it up, it is certainly not what you might think it is) which was promoted as a 'Third Way' between 'Capitalism' and 'Socialism'. While private property was allowed, all commerce and industry were to be restructured so as to make them directly subordinate to the government (in effect in Italy's case to a 'Dictator'.) Sound like something business interests big and small in the the U.S. would be just 'itching' to see realized!?
What Trump and the Republicans represent is 'Authoritarian Neo Liberalism' (look it up). Which unlike 'Fascism', has its economic system ALREADY in PLACE!!
It is not all that long a mere 80 or so year since a fascist was seen as the obvious next PM in the UK largely due to his support from the media and the establishment and his public appeal and at that point the press and establishment were also going on about a refugee crisis and how there were too many Jewish refugees being allowed into England
Nearer 90 years ago and he never got single MP elected.
Moseley was nowhere near being seen as an obvious Prime Minister in Britain. I don't know how you have inferred this. The BUF was seen off through anti-fascist protest, culminating in the Battle of Cable Street in 1936. The Tory government of the time also used legislation to limit its influence and ability to hold gatherings. I am a republican but an argument has been made that the monarchy provided a safety valve that helped prevent or minimise the risks of Britain turning to fascism.
Incorrect.
@@davidmcintyre8145 More like 90 years and his party never got a single MP. So no.
The lack of intelligent rebuttals from the racists speaks volumes.
Very good post, necessary, clear and concise.
Yes, well spoken, but it's all in his imagination.
Yup.
Murphy is lying to you.
I'm a queer gay man and happy to claim I've been a threat to the status quo - whatever it happens to be at the time - since about 1986. And I've no intention of stopping! 🌈
Highly recommend the work of Prof Timothy Snyder
The man who supports the nazis of ukraine? That Timothy Snyder?
You are right, and as Stephen Flynn said it needs dealing with head on, not ignored ŵith an attitude it can never happen here. We've seen the Tories moving towards the far right, this has been part of Farages masterplan. And now comes the next phase, destroy the Tories or take them over. It is frightening.
Murphy is lying to you.
@suburbanyobbo9412 Bot? You need to do better.
@@kevinwells768 Experts such as Roger Griffin, David Renton, Cas Mudde, Daniel Woodley and Nigel Copsey all agree that Farage, Le Pen and Trump and not fascists.
Murphy is lying to you.
I continue to learn from Richard. Thank you for your insightful videos and commentary 👍
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very well explained Richard
He is lying to you.
Don't forget thr role of "theatrical high camp" typified by flags uniforms parades brass bands funny walks special salutes etc....
I think Starmer is an authoritarian and a fascist in waiting.
I also agree with you 100%
He's authoritarian and unless that changes Reform, the real fascists will get in
so true, great video, I fear that we are ready over the tipping point.
Reminds me of the post punk song by the Cigarettes, “They’re back again, here they come”
I share your concerns about facism,Richard! We must taclke it now! We cannot allow ourselves to sleepwalk into it like they did in Germany after the the collapse of the Weimar Republik and seems to be happening again in some other European countries!
Most people slept four yrs ago clapping like seals for its reinforcement.
There is no significant rise in fascism.
Well said sir. 👍❤️👍
Murphy is lying.
I think you have described all the parties not just one of them. Sorry
Thank you so much Richard one of the good people.
He is lying.
Or -- 'My authoritarian ideology is better than your authoritarian ideology'. Freedom for the many is the only 'ideological' path that stands-up to scrutiny - state enforced ideology is also very fascist.
Yes. That's the anti-democracy case. Good luck with that one, Nazi.
The concept of "Social contract" may be of interest.
There's nothing "authoritarian" about democracy. "Freedom" is the buzzword libertarians like to use to attempt to legitimise the dominance of the rich.
@@dinnerwithfranklin2451 - there's no reason that the social contract has to be defined by the ruling elite -- this was just the mindset when the concept was being used to justify monarchy and aristocracy.
@@charliemoore2551 - democracy is about freedom for all --- persecution of any demographic is just another authoritarian flavour whether 'the jews' or 'the rich'. The majority cannot vote to enslave anybody in a democracy - just as they cannot vote to cull them for the common good.
Great video, thanks for uploading
I completely disagree.
@@jeremykille4689🤔 Why? You give no reasons in support of your comment.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat see if can find my comment on the video, if you have time.
@@jeremykille4689 🤔 Why would I do any such thing? Put your point in your reply.
PS. I had already perused that comment. No need for a reply.
@@jeremykille4689 W⚓ & troll
To have subjective definitions means that almost any political ideology can have areas of fascism; socialism has it's mythical history 'Workers of the world unite/ The Struggle' and external enemies; 'The Rich/Capitalists'. I'm pretty sure that Tony Blair didn't see himself as some shrinking violet.
We need to stop demonising political ideas and pick the best ideas from each of them; free market enterprise to generate wealth to solve problems, socialism to deal with the undeserving poor; principally those who struggle to survive either short-term or longer, fascism to give people a sense of place in the world, truthful but slightly mystical history and a degree of communism when meeting the demands of a great danger; war or pandemics.
Fascism is a real worry, Biden's performance the other day is going to help Trump and I worry that if Labour don't get their finger out and improve things, or at least show signs of improvement, before the 2029 election I worry about the next parliament.
Fascism is not a worry, anywhere. It's not a thing. Authoritarianism on the other hand, that is a problem.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Said everyone in 1930's Germany.
@@strandedstarfish : There was no Fascism in Germany. They had National Socialism.
@@strandedstarfishFarage, Trump and Le Pen are not fascists.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 yet, but they're working on it
It's actually time to grow up, Richard.
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An inconsistency that I never figured out was that the "other" is always and invariably, at the same time a threat and "untermenschen" who are weak and immoral
There is no better argument for the decentralisation of power than the current political system.
#GE2024 #GTTO
Need to be careful with these labels, racist was the last one we overused. Go with an extreme label and you really reduce the buckets you can put people in.
Hence the term neo fascism.
Some of those people have decided to don them as a helmet and are now impossible to reach.
I too worry. The last time Europe moved to the right was the 1930s and that did not end well.
Orban not Oban, come on man.
Richard Murphy - an academic intellectual who doesn't like mathematics in economics.
No wonder he can't work out that government debt is a debt for those in the private sector to pay off and even denies there is national debt because for all transactions there is someone with an asset and someone with a debt which balances out to zero. This leads him to believe the debt that government creates is somehow an asset for everyone else despite the fact that nobody else gets to spend that asset apart from the government.
Good man @RichardJMurphy keep it lit
He is lying to you.
Wow! The number of anti comments is growing. Your excellent enlightening and informative talks are attracting greater criticism. It seemed the phoney rural sector took particular umbrage. I suppose they would really. Phoney outrage.
You must be talking truths! Best wishes and thank you.
Note that most of these "antis" seem to keep office hours. The fact that they make the same points using very similar wording is also a trolling red light. Their presence is a compliment to Richard Murphy. It tells us that Tufton Street (or similar) is concerned that he is making an impact.
@@charliemoore2551 Experts such as Roger Griffin, David Renton, Cas Mudde, Daniel Woodley and Nigel Copsey all agree that Le Pen, Trump and Farage are not fascists.
Murphy is lying, and it is good to see him being called out.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 "Experts" decide who is Fascist? No, pal. Ye cannae hide behind that one!
@@charliemoore2551 Are you arguing that we should ignore the most credible and trustworthy experts on fascism, who tell us that Farage, Le Pen and Trump are not fascists, including Roger Griffin who is arguably the world’s leading academic on fascism?
@@suburbanyobbo9412 To begin with, I suggest that they are far from the most credible and trustworthy experts on fascism because they subscribe to liberalism. Fascism is a subset of liberalism. More importantly, I suggest that we make up our own minds about what fascism is by analysing what we see with our own eyes rather than defer to so-called experts.
I thought you were going to talk about neoliberalism!
Putin also absolutely fits this stereotype.
If a communist, fascist and capitalist were randomly dropped into different countries of the world, would they be able to tell if they were or were not in a country of 'their' system ideology?
As would Stalin and Mao. The problem is one of totalitarianism and the politics of division. Those who practise it generally condemn it in those who disagree with them.
@@ronmatthews1738 Yes.
Fascism is demonization, dehumanization and otherization of ethnic and religious minorities who are living in a particular country. These minorities could be citizens, residents or simply immigrants. The most classic example of the victims of fascism throughout history have been the Jews. These days however they've been replaced by the Muslims. So, now the fascists do not talk about the classic "The Jewish Problem", they talk about the "Muslim problem".
Putin is bonapartist, not a fascist.
A definition based on such a wide ranging bunch of woolly criteria (excepting the Welfare State) that literally EVERY organised political movement could fall within these descriptors!.... Strange that an economist chooses NOT to deliberate on economics in this monologue........ Well I guess if it doesn't fit the narrative, ignore it!🤣🤣🤣
No it’s not.
@Richard J Murphy
Please can you explain why so many experts agree that Trump Farage and LePen are not fascists?
Experts such as Roger Griffin, David Renton, Cas Mudde, Daniel Woodley and Nigel Copsey, to name a few.
'Cos they're thick
@@strandedstarfish You think that renowned experts on fascism such as Roger Griffin are “Thick”?
@@suburbanyobbo9412 well fascists are inherently ultranationalists, autocratic and militarists, to which Farage, Le Pen and Trump are no such thing, the problem lies in the definition of 'fascism' being hugely devalued by the liberal left, that's what they specialise in - devaluing words to misrepresent...
@@markturner5534We need to make sure that Murphy is called out for lying to his audience.
@@suburbanyobbo9412 not so easy, when your truth bomb comments get removed ha.
Funny how fascism started on the left in Italy.
Where did the the word fascist originate from?
And
Mussolini’s mistress ( Margherita Sarfatti) was Jewish. She was also a member of the Fascist Party of Italy.
As were 10,000 other Jews - a third of the adult population of Jews in Italy.
These are facts that may surprise (and confuse) a lot of people, because we’ve all been told over and over that Fascists are racists and hate Jews.
This gentleman using one dimensional analysis believes that he stands in an intellectual camp.
Was the father of fascism an Italian Socialist called Gentile? Did it grow from the Italian labour unions?
@@darrenlane3168 Gramsci.
Fascism has indeed existed on both sides of the typical left-right spectrum. Soviet communism wasn’t communal, like nationalsocialism wasn’t social.
History is therefore important, but not for blaming it - it is what it is, and Einsteins ideas make time travel hard. What we _can_ do is learn, and observe if WE need to deal with something similar.
Make your own observations, ask your friends and family how they are _doing_ - maybe compared to just 20 years ago, or your parents when they were in their 20s. Worse off? If so - why? Do poor immigrants drive up housing prices, or are the rich and banks behind it?
Ask. There are answers beyond mere beliefs.
@@musiqtee _"Fascism has indeed existed on both sides of the typical left-right spectrum. "_
No, it hasn't. Fascism was a totalitarian Far-Left, socialist 3rd position ideology. Nothing to do with Right wing of any kind.
They say the father of economic fascism was actually Vladimir Lenin, as Mussolini identified Lenin's transition to allow elements of his economy to turn a profit, this became known as state capitalism which Mussolini further molded into corporatism.
@@markturner5534 I think that’s a good model of understanding. They could both (mis)use the momentum from large groups of economically sidelined people. The period 1880 to say 1930 had “produced” hordes of angry industrial workers - ripe for backing pretty violent ideas of the time.
At THAT time, progressive socialism (fake or real) was the single opposite _idea_ to liberal individualism. None of these idealist views are _philosophically wrong,_ but any one taken to the extreme is… well, not suited for pure power.
A lesson for today shouldn’t be about the “words”, but maybe what forces are experienced as sidelining people _today?_ Marginalized people will get angry, in Ancient Rome, in mid-war Germany, in… quite a few western countries today.
Who will or may use this aggression _today_ to seize more power than we usually think of as democratic and transparent? Whatever we name that power?
Have we got fascism in the UK? Hmmmm...
At school the rise of the Fascists in Germany is taught and we all wonder what we would have done had we been around in Germany in the 30s. Look at your thoughts about Reform. The way you act regarding them is the answer to that question.
I went to the election hustings in Lichfield and listened to the Reform candidate. It was frightening; every point raised here was spouted by him.
The 'National Socialist German Worker's Party' in its beginnings was influenced by Benito Mussolini's 'Fascist Movement'. However the Germans unlike the Italians, did NOT take up 'Corporatism' for their economic system. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
Well done. Can you do one for socialism ?
This was about socialism actually. After all, Fascism was a socialist ideology.
Correct ✅ like the National socialist workers party, bless him but every point except for the last one of course 🙄 is a socialist effect
@@tropics8407 It's almost as if economic policy is entirely unrelated to the question of fascism...
Socialists are infantile fantasists.
@@tropics8407 I hate doing this since you probably don't care about facts. They called themselves "socialist" because the Soviet Union was seen by German workers as an example to work toward. The USSR was rapidly increasing living standards in the early 30s. At the time socialism was quite popular so the austrian gentleman took the name to increase his party's appeal. The German workers party were extremely anti-socialist as are all fascist movement. That is explained by the expression that fascism arises when capitalism is in crisis.
Walos
Erm is right wing democracy equal to fascism . I'm not pro trump but .
Nonsense
I know.
First they called us the right
Then the far right
And now we're all "Fascists"
And notice how he uses the new 2020 definition of fascism.
The looney left always changing definitions to rule the plebs. 😂
Communism was the same. Everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others :(
This isn’t objective commentary. It’s just an anti fascism alarmist rant. It’s just another extreme viewpoint from somebody who trades in theoretical and unproductive work.
Sometimes the ordinary person has a better feel for what is good and bad, than all of the presumed better informed people.
You’ve undermined any professional expertise which you have.
This insults people who have genuine concerns about the massive changes which are being inflicted upon them, at their cost.
This is a highly biased, pious, and smug.
I chose to watch you, and now I’ve decided otherwise.
I will make my mind up from other sources.
Richard you will need a simpler explanation for Reform voters
Common Sense Right is not Fascism
No it’s bullshit. You cant move these goal posts
@'Common' Sense isn't a term you should be banding around so much in politics, we all have different views on different things a lot of the time, so there is no overall Common Sense everyone agrees is correct. You could use it situationally to appeal to some bipartisanship, but I think making out only one side of the political aisle is 'Common Sense' only poisons the well and is inherently dogmatic.
So much "common sense" is people falling into the trap of "for every complex problem, there's a solution that's simple, easy and wrong"
All the bad things you mentioned could be applied to the SNP in Scotland. Are they fascists?
Some of them are, yes: This is the cross they bear, being a broad church united by a single political goal. It applies even more aptly to the nationalist movement as a whole - particularly as some of the most questionable candidates defected to Salmond's Alba.
The same issues exist within unionist politics in Scotland, too; It's almost as if being politically aligned on a topic brings erstwhile enemies to unite against what they consider to be a more dangerous foe.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Not sure what's facist about wanting to end the war in the ukraine?
Depends how you plan to end it. If you end it by empowering Putin...
9 minute lecture on Fascism and no mention of Putin.
I was surprised by that omission too.
Characteristics are key. Not every conceivable qualifying person
We don't get much exposure of what Putin says in Western media. Only what western media tells us. That's a key difference. We were never allowed to hear what IRA Sinn Fein leaders Adams and McGuiness had to say, not until the media gag was removed.
@@davidmcculloch8490 So the most conceivable qualifying person who is actually in power right now didn't even rate a mention whilst others not actually currently in power did? Seems like a startling omission to me.
Isn't he the dude that donates to Reform?
Having listened to your definition of fascism I'm surprised you never called out BLM.
Utter drivel
This propaganda is as polished as something coming straight from the MSM. 😂
It seems Islam fits your definition of fascism
How?
Zionism does.... In fact they self describe themselves as Homophobic Fascists
Maybe, but not as half as good as Thatcher-loving Church of England evangelicals do!
@@BAmalakas no answer from the racist then?
Please do not speak about any subject of which you have no to little knowledge. Investigate it for yourself if what you think is right or wrong. Take a deep dive into Islam. Study its foundational texts. Read Islamic books. Speak to Islamic scholars. There is no scarcity of resources online. There are hundreds of books and articles on Islam written by renowned Islamic scholars. And on top of that there are hundreds and thousands of videos on RUclips. Hours and hours of content. So, you have no excuse to feign ignorance. Knowledge is abundant.
My instincts about you were correct. Tolkien had an expression ' seems fair, but feels foul'. You make such a massive assumption about rural people, many of whom were ex city dwellers and felt compelled to move because of the negative side of multiculturalism. You belittle indigenous rural folk, you intimate that they are easily seduced by fascists. The only thing I would agree with you about is the fear of the dismantling of social support. Everything else is pure left wing dogma. By the way my uncle was a d day veteran, another uncle lost his life over France months before his son was born. Your inclusion of this in a sneering way disgusts me.
Are you talking about cooking smells?
@@fburton8 I did reply but it seems either not to have posted yet. Or there has been interference.
@@fburton8 I watched my next door neighbour die in front of me, from stab wounds. He was attacked by his own son. They were of South Asian heritage. Sorry correction, next door but one.
@@jeremykille4689 My Neighbour, a white Scot, stabbed another neighbour (also a white Scot) to death because he celebrated a Liverpool win on a day when Rangers lost. The relevance of this? Same as your story. None whatsoever.
I was brought up in a rural area and Richard is completely correct. There is a tendency to distrust strangers and unquestioningly accept the social order. I grew up in the 1960s when it was common to see estate workers and their family members touch the cap to members of the local gentry's family. On one occasion, the lady of the estate marched into our house without so much as knocking to "invite" my elder sister to apply for a job as a maid! She was "invited" out very quickly by my father to her utter consternation and confusion. There is no doubt that people used to this sort of treatment are susceptible to Fascism and that is borne out by the experience of every country which has ever suffered this scourge. My father lost an eye at Dunkirk, by the way. The relevance? None at all.
What nonsense. Fascism is not political, it's an economic model and was adopted by the National German Workers Socialist party under Hitler and Mussolini who was a Marxist. Fascism is simply an amalgamation of state and the private sector and has nothing to do with the leadership structure. A fascist economic model is collectivism where the state controls the means of production via a centrally planned economy (socialism) and it's modern day equivalent would be stakeholder capitalism. The EU is also moving towards this fascist model which is unsurprising given it originates from Germany where most of the National Socialists remained in position after the fall of Hitler and went on to design the common market that subsequently became the EU. Trump believes in feee markets which is the complete opposite of fascism, so your argument is total nonsense and the usual diatribe put out by the left.
_" Fascism is not political, it's an economic model "_
Wrong actually. Fascism was a very specific political ideology and revolutionary socialist movement in Italy. It was Mussolini's ideology, and it used socialism as the basis for their economy, and their specific model for it was known as Corporatism.
_"Fascism is simply an amalgamation of state and the private sector and has nothing to do with the leadership structure. "_
Technically the State takes over the private sector. There is no "amalgamation" of any kind, only subordination.
_"A fascist economic model is collectivism where the state controls the means of production via a centrally planned economy (socialism) and it's modern day equivalent would be stakeholder capitalism. "_
Otherwise correct, but it wasn't even close to Stakeholder Capitalism or Capitalism of any kind. Under Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian), the society and the economy was organized, with state power at the head of a system of syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. Mussolini's corporatist view stressed total state power over businesses as much as over individuals, via these governing industry bodies controlled by the Fascist party, in which businesses retained the responsibilities of property, but few if any of the freedoms.
Also have to note, that Fascism had nothing to do with Germany. They had National Socialism, which was a completely different political ideology.
The funniest part of this is the garbage about Second World War fascists initiating the EU. It didn't appear until 1993!
Trump is no more a "free marketeer" than any of the other neoliberals. What they really believe in is markets rigged in their favour. "Free markets" is a scam they sell to the gullible and stupid. You have to give them credit for their targeting skills.
With all due respect, you people (activist Jason Stanley included) have no clue what Fascism means nor what it represented. Which is rather ironic, considering a well known Neo-Fascist Oswald Mosley was from your country. Please do your homework before making such videos, learn what Fascism was about, and stop using the word as a slur. For that, I highly suggest starting from the basics, such as "the Doctrine of Fascism" by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile. After that, "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice" by Renzo De Felice.
There's nothing more ridiculous than accepting a Fascist's definition of Fascism. Both Italian Fascism and its German sibling were grifts - just as MAGA is. Both claimed to be anti-capitalist but, in fact, capitalists prospered greatly under both regimes and workers were suppressed on their behalf. This will, of course, be the case if Trump (or an equally corrupt successor) is returned to power.
Fascism didn't like Bangladeshi boat people Sir Kid Starver is one 😳 Rivers of _redacted_ speeches replaced by rivers full of _redacted_ and £57,OOO,OOO,OOO interest to government backed corporate fascists
wtf u gibbering about? moaning about fascists and i bet you want to vote for reform? lol
kanedNunable I stood for The Green Party Blair years inequality rose-inequality of wealth-inequality of incomes-I'm on Wikipedia-2020 Labour laws allowed me to be marched to a door for coughing with pneumonia and I nearly died in ICU-United Utilities deducted my food from UC to pay water tax in winter
Remember,SNP during WW2 had strong pro Nazi sympathies,including a former leader and founding members.
Churchill was a massive Nazi supporter, as was the English monarchy. The elite in England were very taken in by Hitler and his ideology.
To some extent, yes. Remember that the original Scottish nationalists came mostly from the Tory Party - which had far more Nazi sympathisers. In fact, it still does.