The Downfall of Modern Podcasts | Asmongold Reacts
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Lol. I think Asmon is taking notes to improve Steak and Eggs now.
at least steak and eggs doesn't try to sell a lifestyle. or at least haven't so far.
We all remember when he was wrong about that hardcore raid. Hope he will bring better experts next time
Thats why he invites Hassan ;)
It’s a terrible podcast.
Getting Asmon out the house seems like the biggest merit to the cast. It's so boring.
I really enjoyed what theo von did, when he had regular avg joe working people on.
The garbage man, coroner, and retired cop were my favorites.
They just tell some life stories, share some knowledge, and it's great.
i was thinking about how good that garbage man ep was. please more of those
i felt tosh kind of has "borrowed" that idea recently with his, but it is fairly decent as well.
The coroner episode was so interesting. Theo's got one of the best pods around
His nephews one was great
This is why old school rap music was so good. Just storytellers.
As someone who pays for RUclips Premium to hear sponsor ads in the middle of the video is very relatable
It would be fine for most struggling podcasts obviously but when you have a deal for a Quarter of a Billion dollar.. perhaps we don't need your fucking advertisement 🤦♂
Use sponsorblock.
I also like how Lex does that. Although the Algo recommended him for weeks 😅 in a row.
I have exactly zero sympathy for you 😉
@@logirex money corrupts people. If you had the opportunity to gain 200k for 30sec work most of us would do it. At that stage these "hosts" are so far detached from ordinary working people they don't give a shit about hypocrisy
As someone who has run ad block for as long as I can remember, and having never clicked a sponsored link in my entire life, or bought any sort of product based on that.... it is still surreal hearing about how well these tactics work on people.
Unfortunately for society you're in the minority. I run 2 uBlock and AdNauseum, use Firefox, reject cookies, etc... And have still purchased certain products because a content creator I trust promoted it. Luckily I'm quite happy with those purchases since I did research on them prior to buying, but I'm amazed how many people just blindly fall for them
Same here. I don't care about ads, when I want to buy something I do some research to get up do date on the current products then I buy the thing.
its like George Carlin said "think about how stupid the average person is... then realize that half of them are stupider than that"
Same here. All you have to do is go look at the product to realize you get it for the same price with or without the “discount” code.
The diet coke thing is the only thing trump has ever been right about.
Modern podcast? Comparing to what? Medieval ones?
compared to 2-5 years ago
it was called radio, young one
Oh I dunno. How about radio? A little more recent than medieval times. It's ok I know I'm old.
@@nistrega I doubt radio can be classified as podcasts. The difference is that they are not on net and cannot be listened to anytime
I'm guessing you're not old enough to know about radio shows.
4:30 i mean.. what he’s describing is legacy media..
That is how you know this video is bs. They'd love to kill podcasts. It's the only arena left to hear open, honest conversation that goes against the powers that wish to control every aspect of our lives. They for sure exist and the Twitter files proved that it goes deep...but it's deeper than that, even. You can't say you didn't know when the shit starts really going down. Be prepared to kiss your modern conveniences goodbye if they are successful in controlling all information you get.
This applies to all tv/radio & news interviews forever. Its not podcasts & it's not new.
yeah, but what people need to know Is when podcasts blew up they weren't complete corporate shill-fests. now they are and are inherently less credible.
Yeah but it seems they just exploit modern audience, who dont want to get educated they want to watch something that agrees with their world views, or be mad at something that doesnt, to me at least it seems that 20 years ago people were more open minded to new ideas, now they are cemented in their personal world view and anyone saying opposite "has an agenda" didnt you noticed that?
100%, and I'll give an example that many people will know.
ESPN has for YEARS had many "controversy farmer" hosts. Guys (or sometimes gals) who take ridiculous positions on topics within sports.
These people don't even believe the nonsense coming out of their mouths, they just say stuff to stir people up and have something to talk about.
Examples - Colin Cowherd, Steven A. Smith, Nick Wright, Jim Rome, etc., etc., etc. There's an army of them at ESPN.
Yes, true. I think a big part of the point he was making was that there was a golden-era of sorts before podcasts got big enough to get totally tainted by the money.
Joe Rogan talking about animals and fights is when he’s at his best
Fr. You listen to his latest one with Shane and Matt
Or about topics so far into the future, that no one has any concrete fact based knowledge about it anyway. One can make assumptions following gut feelings and intuition to discuss ethics of AI in the year 2100 without understanding under the hood engineering of modern neural networks, but doing the same with virology rarely ends well.
Nah, it's UFOs and Aliens.
All of you are wrong. It's definitely DMT
I really enjoyed when he had that Beekeeper lady.
The bit with the skimming through the study to reveal the misinformation reminds me of a story my teacher told. One of his colleagues would mention in his syllabus for a class, that there was $100 in a locker at school according to my teacher an entire semester passed and the $100 was still in the locker.
Wow, the students must be really trustworthy or not listen at all. It's obviously the first case.
@@iwankazlow2268 it's also the selection bias, the students that are reading the syllabus are probably the students who are less likely to take that 100$
you dont even have to skim through the studies. usually all the bullshit can already be found by reading the abstract.
@@Althissianyeah that's also true, if the $100 were ever taken that'd be a red flag lol.
@@AlthissianWhy wouldn't they take it? It's not like someone forgot the $100. The colleague put it there for someone who read the syllabus and is lucky enough to have found it, or not?
It’s really not that deep. Most folks just passively listen to podcasts during work or commute. Before podcasts, they listened to talk radio- Stern, NPR, breakfast club, etc.
And the bubble will burst soon because the podcasts have just as much ads these days as regular media
@@kantanenakseli8886 not even close. i dont mind 2 short ads in a 3 hour podcast.
@@kantanenakseli8886 tell me you havent listened to the radio in 2 decades without saying explicitly that. (dont worry I havent either)
Its not even close. Ad saturation on radio is >50%
even if you passively listen you need to be picky with the information
comparing a podcast to traditional media is a big laughable joke. @@Airtroops83 i cant put my podcast on NBC or FOX. the gatekeepers dont get to decide what im allowed to say and not hear. thats an invaluable service. fuck the mainstream forever
JRE is one of the few podcast on Spotify you can skip over the ads and not get bombarded with more ads
tbh i don't remember encountering any ads on JRE ever lol and I don't even pay for spotify
@@stefankecina same, I've never seen ads while using the Java Runtime Environment either.
We're in a constant search for truth. The greatest surprise for me as someone who grew up as the internet entered its infancy is that we know no more truth now than we did before. It seemed plainly obvious that the internet would open the door to truth and expand our knowledge, and somehow I was dead wrong...
the blame lies on the people. If you are searching for 'truth' on an entertainment podcast, you are not really searching for truth. There are plenty of sources of quality information. The only issue is people don't want that, they want easy information they can use to validate their emotions. Knowledge takes time and effort. It's not as entertaining. The internet is a great tool to expand your knowledge, you can literally self study most advanced degrees for free at home.
realizing the Earth is flat and motionless is the gateway to truth. ask me how many facediapers i wore during the latest psy-op, Zero!
The internet is a tool. The truth is in the internet, you just have to put in the work yourself.
But I also know, that most of the people don't have the mental capabilities to do that and that's where the problems arise.
Why would you even think that to begin with? Sounds like unfamiliarity with history. Did books suddenly bring about a revolution in truth? No.
The difference is that on podcasts you get the unedited full context take. This guy is pinning a problem that has been around since cable TV to podcasts.
He comes off as someone who has a bone to pick.
yes and no, in cable TV "back in the day" as in newspapers they had people responsible to fact check shit and filter information and experts and they paid actual experts in a field to read studies and summarize them in common language. A lot of that stuff is gone thanks to the "unregulated free market", but a Joe Rogan is not doing ANY of that stuff. How many listeners are fact checking against the study with the full context? And how many run with that crap and buy some BS product or book? And lets not even get started with politics. The world is fcking complicated, topics like nutrition are extremely hard to test and verify, because we can't lock in people and feed them potatoes/chocolate for 12 months. Context is not helping you, especially not if there is no other expert who can challenge stuff. It's almost like watching a commercial. You can't work in a warehouse without learning some stuff first, so for sure you can't evaluate scientific studies or challenge a good liar on a complicated subject.
more like since the printing press was invented ... "Extra Extra read all about it" lol
Podcasts are most certainly edited. The only time you're going to get an unedited one is on a streaming platform like Twitch where you can't edit anything. If you can upload it, you can edit it beforehand. It's really easy to see with these sponsor segments too.
People put a lot more faith in podcasts than TV. It's mainstream to not believe what is said on the TV. I wouldn't say that's the case with podcasts, especially "science-based" ones.
RUclips is the same way if you pay for RUclips premium. Pay for no ads and then you still see ads the creator put in the video.
Thought it was common sense to not trust ads.
It is.
But common sense has become a rare commodity.
A lot of people no longer understand what's an ad, vs what isn't an ad
Common sense isn't common.
some ads are very subtle and mold your subconscious, Obviously people very rarely trust obnoxious and obvious ads about shady products from shady people
Joe Rogan's podcast does not require you to pay for Spotify premium. It is free to listen to.
Ehh but Spotify premium's whole schtick is ad free listening.
It's enshittyfication if exclusive content still has ads.
You can take about 1 second and skip them.@@ask_carbon
@@ask_carbon yeah but his is free hence the ads
@@ask_carbonyou can fast forward the ads….
Just download the hacked version, why pay for that crap?
Jump cuts are so annoying.
Unrelated but ...
Do you know why companies promote diet soda and want you to buy it more than original product?
Because it is cheaper to make than using sugar and they sell it for same price.
And it taste better.
@@mesaber86 No man, it tastes like crap.
@@bestintheworld4850 if you are a sugar addict it does taste like crap, you gotta detox first.
@@mesaber86 You're pimping DIET soda and calling people sugar addicts. My brother, you are the addict.
@@danlorett2184 i dont drink any of em nowadays. Both are equally bad for keeping blood sugar levels in check.
It absolutely sucks to hear JRE ads when youre paying for Spotify while im working. I work at a place where I can very rarely pick up my phone or even tap my earbuds to fast forward or someone might get hurt. So im essentially paying to listen to unskipable ads.
That's why i like listening to podcasts that is about friends talking about their niche and a lot of times they get side tracked. I don't have problems with ads as long as they can present the ad in a fun way especially if its a bit.
it's worse than not bothering to read the paper, it's skimming through the abstract (which is basically a very short introduction to the subject of study in the paper and what are the findings - eg "we're monitoring fat people to see what makes them fat and discovered there's no significant difference between the drink we've studied" - translate that into academic speech and you have the abstract basically.)
The difference between an expert and a guru is that an expert knows the boundaries of their knowledge, a guru doesn't.
A guru is a snake-oil salesman; and Diary of a CEO brings a LOT of gurus onto their show. Their credibility is negligible because they give platforms to delusion fraudsters.
An expert is usually someone who cannot call themselves by a licensed title or are not respected in their field. A palaeontologist refers to themselves as a palaeontologist and expects to be referred to as so when their work is referenced.
Do not accept healthcare from anyone who calls themselves a Medical Expert.
@@onesolopolo4194 Guru is also usually a socially applied title; you'd be mad to call yourself a Guru, it's a negative term.
But there is no shortage of Guru's that call themselves experts.
@@onesolopolo4194especially one that shows up on tv. Boy have they been so so so wrong.
@@onesolopolo4194 I'll take a medical expert over a guru any day.
@@metaempiricist plot twist: more often than not, they’re the exact same thing.
A doctor is technically an expert by the way of language.. but calling themselves an expert is like LeBron calling himself an entertainer. Which is true, until Asmongold uses that language to say he belongs in the NBA.
Explanation just takes longer. Most people are going to anchor to the first information they receive on any given subject if they 'like' the source of that information. Also its very easy to link unrelated topics together to persuade people with their biases. Confirmation bias is one the most subtle form of manipulation and no one is immune from it. Questioning your preconceptions take a lot of effort especially if those preconceptions are bound up in your identity.
Reminds me of the time I was reading a news article online that cited studies, had said links to studies, and then I read the studies they cited & it said the exact opposite what the site claimed. Since then, I have zero trust in people, I always research before I make an ass of myself regurgitating misinformation.
0:44 okay what mf listens to JRE while sleeping? Man i love hearing joe rogan make animal noises in my ear as i hear him talk about DMT and shit
Oh damn I listen to JRE almost every night whilst I sleep although it does sometimes result in very odd dreams.😂
I sleep to JRE.
I listen to podcasts like JR in the evening
I listen to dubstep while I sleep
12 hour Skyrim retrospective for me
If you were watching Lawtube, you would be more impressed with the experts. They had lawyers of every possible type, from criminal law to contract rights, to freaking lumber (he made a video called “Woodworker Attorney DEBUNKS Amber Heard's 'Broken Bed' Testimony!” - a reference to Heard's allegation that Depp assaulted her on a bed, breaking its wooden frame), and ALL of them thought Amber Heard was guilty by the end of the trial.
They also all agreed that Rittenhouse was innocent, which he ended up being. I loved watching those two trials. The quality of information I got was far superior to anything the MSN was capable of doing. One of the lawyers did an interesting idea of tweeting about what the jury was doing during the trial, and made guesses as to where they were leaning for the JD case.
Rekieta is always gate and lay.
Nick Rekieta's trial coverages are probably the best content I have seen since the inception of the website. No other channel have I come back to day after day for weeks watching 10 hour streams.
@@Thrashificeya and then even in the law world.. drama happened.. cause they were starting to call themselves like the law avengers universe etc.. and then ya. So many things just fell apart. Cause then peopel were trying to control others.. pepole weren’t allowed to stream while others..e tc..
Crazy to think lawyers were all acting ike kids..
I was confused when used that example for reason to not believe the experts. The people she brought to testify werent experts and were quickly shown to be that. That was way more of a believe all victims thing than it was experts.
One thing I’ve noticed on Facebook is that memes will often have intentional errors like misspelling Mexico to drive engagement because of all the people that have to comment to correct it.
1984? Did he mean Future Shock by Alvin Toffler instead maybe? I don't remember a 'deluge of information' being a concept from 1984.
The thumbnail looks like the manga panel of Roger laughing.
I think the biggest issue with Rogan's podcast(I've been a listener for 7 years)...is that it started as a hangout. It was just some dudes hanging out getting blasted and shooting the shit. Eventually they got big and it wasn't just friends hanging out it was experts, comics, regular people, and charlatans. The one guy taking about mycotoxins in coffee comes to mind.
Another thing that I miss is the variety of guests he would have, from commies to crony capitalists. I just miss the days when every episode didn't have a 30min section of COVID, Biden, Dems and Trump.
you don't get ads if you download them and then go offline.
My favorite expert was that "WoW expert" that said you could get Lich King's sword after defeating him in WOTLK
Just a reminder: You don't need to read the WHOLE STUDY. You usually only need to read the ABSTRACT of the study to see if the study was represented even remotely correctly.
I know most people never even click the link to the study so this doesn't really make any difference, but maybe even a few will find this useful.
No. You should also read the methodology.
Just a reminder: Only read the ABSTRACT if you 100% trust that no human on this planet will ever tell you a lie
@@ColeKinghorn On a lot of the Huberman ones, you can figure out the takeaway was wrong by skimming the abstract usually. I did it a few times before I gave up and entirely stopped listening to him. The abstract is also usually free to review.
Yes, to really understand the study and how trustworthy it is, you should review the abstract, conclusions, methodology, skim the results and charts, and maybe the rest if you aren't familiar with the area. You should also review the authors' biases and other work, like Susanna Soberg sells a course on ice water for fat loss so her studies are now even more sus than they already were. If somehow those check out, you should also review the credibility of the institution that performed the work and the journal that published it and really make sure you understand the purpose of the research in context and where the work is moving in the future. All of that to maybe get a, "huh, that's interesting, we'll see how it holds up in ten years".
This is also true of most other podcasts about science topics, even the ones with references, and especially the ones with lots of money like health and diet podcasts. Less popular disciplines like Kyle Hill on nuclear engineering or Milo Rossi on archeology seem to be a lot more trustworthy even though they also get things wrong sometimes. It never hurts to do a little review on all the information you take in.
@tiryaclearsong421 Reading the discussion is just as important if you’re focusing on takeaway points. There’s a lot of important information there that you won’t be able to glean from the abstract alone. It’s also where most of the premise for follow-up studies will be found aside from the conclusion.
@ @-scrim It's not necessarily that the abstract misrepresents the findings. The abstract is just a summary of the study. It's a good way of learning what the study is about but if you're looking for takeaway points you're mainly going to want to look at the discussion and conclusion. A lot of what's getting discussed surrounding topics covered in podcasts like Huberman, Attia, etc. mainly deal with this kind of information. If all they were doing was rattling off abstracts, an episode of the Huberman podcast, for instance, would be 25 minutes instead of 3 hours like it usually is. It would also be much less informative.
People like @MrRanosama and @tiryaclearsong421 MIGHT be right when it comes to misrepresentation of information and conflicts of interest, but if all they did was read abstracts and jump to conclusions based off of what they gleaned from that limited info, they're making a moot point. Of course the abstract is going to differ from a bulk of what is being discussed when looking at implications of the study. Of course, some studies are gated behind paywalls like those archived on Elsevier so I understand if people don't want to pay lump sums of money for access.
but if you dont read the whole study you cant know is the study initself is flawed
I'll wait for the RUclips short before I believe this
When I was a senior in High School, we had a computer class and I finished my work ahead of everyone so i decided to just look up stuff about other countries to kill boredom. Then saw on an article abour how coffee can be good for you. Then bout a year later, looking up stuff during freshman year of college and they say its bad for ya. Thrn like 2 years later, again they say its good for ya. At the end of it all i asked, round 2019, who are these experts, where are their studies coming from, and most of all, why cant they agree on something?? Science and math are fact, but humans can be selfish and bias!
Sometimes I can't even tell an ad has begun until I start hearing about discount codes.
His point at the beginning is something I wish RUclips would change. When uploading a video with sponsor content they should have to set the time stamps of the sponsor message start and end. So people that have YT premium can have it auto skip these sponsor ads. People have gotten to sneaky and corrupt with placing this crap where ever. At least TV back in the day you knew the two times ads would show for a 30 minute show.
How entintled are you. You are paying to skip youtube ads, not the youtubers one. LoL
@@DiegoGonzalez-my4wz At least I’m paying verse using ad blocker. They already get more money because I’m using YT premium and watching. Not entitled just right.
@@VAsHachiRokuits free 1 to 3 hour content and you're mad about sponsor reads you can easily skip
@@Simiocrates it’s going to happen one way or another. Already saw someone testing an AI for YT to help skip double or triple dipping in every video! Either way YT doesn’t ad the feature and that gets released AI can helps to skip!
Hey man if you have an android you can get RUclips revanced. It literally does that for you. From what I can tell is that RUclips requires RUclipsrs to mark the sponsor spots in the video when they upload
I don't understand how Asmon was so blown away by this...
Ironically he's a prime example of someone who's easily manipulated
@@ETBrooD I'm guessing you're totally not, ever, by anything. 😂
@@josefmendez8524 Everyone can be manipulated, of course that goes for me as well. We all get fooled, and we all fool ourselves. That self-awareness is the only protection we have.
He puts on a show. Most of what you see is him acting.
Lesson: all engagement is good engagement.
If you want to "punish" bad creators, gurus, or experts, the only way is to not engage.
i saw that "doctor" or whatever he is in another clip saying that giving a kid a cocolate bar is healthier than giving a kid a hand full of grapes or something like that. what a quack.
You know you can skip the ads on his podcast right? I dont have premium and i just skeip to the end of the ad.
The people complaining about that don't know because they don't listen.
But sliding that bar to the right side of my screen is A LOT of work...
@@NickMachado jeez I know right 😭
I listen 24/7 podcasts at work like ThePod, Geschichten aus dem Altbau, Podcast ohne richtige Namen and some more. Without podcasts work would be ba boring hell.
there is oil to prevent hairloss aswell.
When I go to the stores, If i find copies of 1984, I put them in the non-fiction or history sections
Club shay shay with the Katt Williams interview prime example of a platform that fishes for content passively. It is what it is
Plus he knew Katt was going to go off. He was talking about it with ocho Cinco on after party or whatever their show is he just didn't know it was going to be that hot
It’s always been this way; New York Post, daily mail, and all the yellow journalism from the past.
And the Times, Post, Guardian.
Never buy things that streamers or podcasts are advertising
The podcasts I listen to are edutainment (Science & History) podcasts that do a more than decent fact checking. Also, it's rare nowadays to see one that doesn't have a patreon or any form of memberships.
The irony is I bet nobody checked the study even after he claimed it was wrong. We just like this new person more, and he's calling them out. He must be right!
Now should we check, if they guy who told is its missinformation, lied ?
he didnt lie
If a business's main source, or even if it's just a largely significant source, of their income is ads or marketing, then it's not a good business. Relying on ads only leads to your business being controlled by other company's interests, turning your main clientele into the marketing agencies instead of the fans watching your content.
Diet pills? Could go way more common than that, like toothpaste.
There’s a new toothpaste tube released every other month, does someone with the latest Colgate paste have better teeth than someone who uses a Colgate tube released in 2010?
They’re all the same, they all clean your teeth.
Only difference would be flavor.
I want to start a podcast
Start right now. Go!
Nah, you dont.
@@PandaBrrr Yes, I do.
@@Leongon If it only were that simple
@ It is.
Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife. - Proverbs 21-19
"Stay Strong, Chase Excellence Brothers."
- Godspeed
U can skip thru the JRE ads. I’m not sure when it became a problem to scroll ur thumb from left to right 3 times
It became a problem when you don't have immediate access to your phone i.e. on a run/middle of a weights set; or when you've set your phone aside and are working on something while listening on some headphones
ok, let me share a story of simmilar context. my ex language teacher was a realy cool person, like one of those rare pour your heart out teachers. she told us that once she had a job at a local fluff news paper, and she got to do the Horoscope section as a substitute for someone for like 4 months. You know what she told us ? That her job was to re-edit a premade two pages of broad 'horoscope' statements into new words, then split it into 12 parts and was instructed to - 'dunno just spread it out randomly'. Literaly she printed out the cards with those paragraphs, did she shuffle truffle with cards and just randomly assigned those to each zodiac sign. Then next month, rephrase the whole fortune telling template, rearrange sentences, and repeat. Thats how horoscope works. I believe that woman, she was a real one.
Disclaimer - Huberman fan here :D The podcast is good if you can get through it - i get what the guy in the video is saying but to what point are you responsible for how your guest will present a specific study they bring up? Best thing in that case is mention in the next episode that the way that study was presented was BS (which i heard him do before). Don't let that drive you away from the good episodes - eg like addiction / alcohol. Amazing stuff.
but how often do they make a retraction when the study is BS? repeatedly giving known quacks a platform to spread easily debunkable misinformation is where i draw the line
If they're going to waffle about the results of a study I expect the host to have a copy of that study instead of taking their word for it until the audience calls them out later.
@@shotnothing3419why don’t you watch it and form your own opinion instead of from random RUclips videos?
He use to be amazing but then when he started having more guests he started pushing beyond purely conclusively agreed on science based content. Now it’s hit or miss and some guests are fear mongering (many times with a product to sell to over come). Yes, he later flags so,e things, but it should have never been on the platform in the first place.
He refuses to because critical thinking is too hard.
Srsly, where is this "experts don't agree on a topic so their opinions must be worthless" brain rot coming from?
I think it depends on the field.
obviously you never lived through covid lol
Brief on bried
worship of authority and living in a bubble of fiction is inherent in leftist and western liberal thought
"Govern me harder, daddy"
I started listening to Brain Leak, the podcast of JackSepticEye and Ethan Nestor, but after a few episodes in I had to quit it because of the obnoxious amount of baked in ads they run interrupting their own shit over and over... It was making me legitimately angry.
1:30 I was watching the ICJ south africas live stream court case and tbh I have no hope either on experts or politicians 🫡
The problem with this dude is he's so guru-brained that he thinks all podcasts are about 'getting people on the show'. There are plenty of podcasts that are a set group of friends who just shoot the shit. Podcasts don't always have to be the next JRE.
This is like treating all RUclips videos like they are MrBeast videos. That's just so off-base I can't even properly form the thoughts needed to dismiss such a wild idea.
His fitness/weight loss/health stuff is amazing. Zero bullshit.
This past week more than ever, I've NEVER seen so many ads on RUclips... I refuse to pay and they are giving me the treatment 😂
I don't think that dude has ever watched the Joe Rogan Experience.
He watches it, if you follow him.
Why not? Does JR not put ads on his Spotify episodes any more?
@@GeneralSpecificI’ve never heard ads
Joe Rogan simps are weird as hell.
He does have ads . It’s country specific I think.
When life is so comfortable you create a presentation on the ‘issues’ with podcasts. Honestly, I think most people listen to them on their way to work, turn it off and get on with their day.
To me the guy just sound like he is just triggered to see people he doesn't like get clout or relevance.
For ex he said Lex Friedman is a good person.
Sounds very biased to me.
We are talking about someone who behave so desperate to get validation from everybody.
Fishy as fuck of you ask me. I don't trust that kind of person personally.
That being said I agree that everyone shouldn't take something they heard on a podcast at face value.
But that's common sense.
It works the opposite way too. Your life is full of issues that can’t be easily be dealt with or sometimes not even possible to solve at all and you grasp at any tiny straw that you hope it will help although it’s just coping with reality. And when it doesn't work they find something new thing to grasp on to that will fix everything.
Podcasts?
Sounds like he's talking about news broadcasts, or even Hollywood movies.
12:00 it does sadly. Have a few friends who do this.
The whole modern world is on downfall rn
asmongold isnt
Walk outside and touch some grass and you'll realize its not nearly as bad as you have been led to believe.
@@lechiotdustreet1224his hairline is 💀
its so over
@mrchesse4341
i myself am 35 and hairline is going, but i make money easier now than i ever did in my 20s. i also would beat myself regarding just about anything if i was playing myself vs myself. i am strong better smarter now than i was in my 20 back when i had hair. i was slightly better looking in my late 20s but that was about the only perk i had compared to now.
They’re all click baits
The diet soda thing is crazy...I drink diet soda because I used to be heavily addicted to sodas with sugar. I don't gain weight, I lose weight and I have to cut weight because I compete in combat sports, diet sodas are used as a tool for people who don't want to drink sugary drinks, but at the same time they do not make me lose weight, my diet and training regime with the complimenting of diet sodas does....
1:09 when it comes to experts, one must look at qualifications of that experts.
This seems like such a stupid complaint. Dude is basically saying he doesn't know how to think for himself and is unable to just listen to people. You don't have to change your life everytime you listen to a podcast, most podcasts are meant for entertainment. Hell, just look at Joe's guests, he brings people from nearly every somewhat interesting background and from every different side of the topic. You don't have to rebuild your entire philosophical outloook with each episode, nor do you even have to listen to them. You don't have to trust any of them.
Dude is trying to denigrate others to build up his own, that is the lowest form of trying to get views imo.
I think this guys views are less based on JRE bringing entertainers on than science based podcasts whose goal is to give you "information" bringing controversial figures on to talk about controversial (aka poorly evidenced) theories, or topics outside of their field of expertise. Big trend of experts misrepresenting studies (sometimes saying the OPPOSITE of what the study found) in these podcasts too. This man isn't trying to bring others down to elevate himself, he's articulating a pretty big counterculture in academia against these podcasts.
@@Darkndustries but even still, if they are actual scientists that even have contrary opinions, that is fine too if that is within their realm of study. Science is not a majority rule sport. Seems so unscientific to try and squash dissenting scientific opinions. Sure you can bash some random person for saying the world is flat, but just let people talk imo.
To me the dude just came off as jealous, and wanted to try and belittle other channels in what I can only assume was an attempt to bring his own up.
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You are right in that science isn't a majority rule sport. If it weren't for dissenting opinions, many poor practices (like doctors being unhygienic and smearing blood on themselves as a sign of prestige) wouldn't have been stopped if it weren't for scientists with dissenting opinions. Difference between these scientists and these podcast guests is the quality of evidence they use.
The scientists that video dude + I are talking about use no or very poor evidence bases as fact. Like in the video, many of these guests are misrepresenting the content (especially the results) of these studies to push a dogma. Some others I have seen also use unreplicable (no other scientists can get similar results) or poorly designed (not blinding etc, making it more likely they got the results in error) studies. It stops being a matter of a dissenting scientific opinion when they what they are claiming has a poor evidence base/is evidenced against by the literature.
Ngl its very fair to see this video in isolation and think he is jealously attacking these people for views. In the last couple weeks I've had multiple other content creators put out pieces about this so I watched the vid in a different context. As a masters student I've had similar thoughts while reading the articles these "science-based" podcasts have cited.
Also there is some variation in content of the "science-based" podcasts. Some podcasts are better than others. Some episodes of a series are better than others. Some podcasts have experts rifting and rambling on studies which is way better than other podcasts where experts say stuff like its fact with little talk of why they make the claims. This is opinion but it seems like the general quality of the whole "science-based" genre (including big figures like Huberman etc) have taken a recent nosedive.
13:08 the only problem i have is he doesn’t even talk about joe rogan. He made claims about joe and didn’t back them up he just shown a vid from the neuroscientist getting wrong info from a dumbass. Then moved on his only complaint was ads in joes vids which are not that bad, if you’re gonna make a hit piece then stick to one person.
Its not a video about Joe Rogan though, he was just the poster boy for a much larger grievance so to speak
@@kingludi6800 he immediately opened up talking about joe and how his ads are bad then just goes starts talking about another random channel he has terrible subject swap if so then.
I've only had ads on rogans podcast twice, thought it was odd but it went away, I didn't think he did ads. Is it because I pay for premium or does he not ads these days?
the supply and demand part is real, and then if its pre-recorded podcast they should always put up the studies being talked about and not just the guest talking.
I drink only diet drinks for like a decade, and it changed a lot for me. Its much easier to stay shredded, and drink something tasty.
Diet is fine. Way better than drinking sugar
I kinda wish that we could have had Asmon reflect on the study's true findings after knowing it was all a sham. He was rather harsh against Diet Sodas when he heard it "caused" weight gain in the study, but after finding out that they pulled the numbers out of their ass, it would have been nice if he said "oh so Diet Soda may actually be fine"
@@CukMcGee american sugar perhaps. but diet is also awful, and natural sugar outside of the US isn't as bad imo.
@@pylotlight well it still has much more calories
The downfall? Podcasts are MASSIVE, what are you on about
So is disney, doesnt mean they dont suck ass
He means the downfall of “good” and “useful” podcasts. Use your brain.
Getting ads to be the same volume as the rest of the podcast must be the most difficult technical thing there is, they never get it right. And raising the volume on purpose is just going to make me dislike whatever product they are trying to sell.
What's the podcast Asmon mentioned where he was the topic?
News flash, on Spotify you can skip right through the adds as well, like Lex’s podcast on RUclips. Fairly certain he’s never watched a Spotify podcast lol.
You press the fast forward 15sec button 4 times and boom the ad is gone
@@Endlessunkwnthats not the point he is saying, if he is paying for spotify premium for the purpose of skipping ads, why should he have to listen to as breaks on their show. That is a problem.
Living through the Covid regime put holes in any trust I had in the "experts".
But podcasts were about the only place you could find experts who spoke out against the Covid narratives.
Trying to prove yourself wrong is something that most people do not do, but it is important to do to make sure you're the stuff you believe is actually legit. The harder you try to prove yourself wrong, the more confident you can be that you're correct.
This is really interesting that we've reached this stage of podcast. The funny things is they people clued in that they could just clone the JRE podcast and now we're here.
I love that this came out right before Dana walked out of the Howie podcast
Always getting to the actual point, I really love your videos!
We need a podcast that has guests provide all the evidence beforehand and then checks at least the outlines.
The problem with sponsors in podcasts being everywhere has more to do with the threat of being demonitized by host platforms.
There is a simple equation when it comes to weight: calories intake vs calories burned. Some foods, drinks and lifestyles are way more healthy than others that can influence in other aspects of someone's overall health, but when it comes to pure weight-loss, there is no magic-potion, specially after a certain age (and it varies from person to person).
you know it's a good video when Asmon's response isn't double the length of the original video
Listened to podcasts since 2008, when I had a job just sorting packages. People did them because they had fun talking to each other and did it for the love of the interest. Where no ads etc.
Asmon listening to James Smith vid? two worlds many of us listen to didn't think would ever overlap :D Nice!
This is the calmest ive ever seen gordon ramsey behave
Socrates explained the thing about people listening to hype over logical reasoning.
The original video's comments are just as screwed up as the podcast "experts". People seem to have a hard time even understanding what processed food is, as if blending ingredients is the same as using additives. Understanding and comprehension appears to be a dying art.
The thing is, this will always happen. It happens in books too! That's why you have to think critically. And be willing to look deeper and yes, do your own research. Science is full of contradicting data. This is just basic stuff. Also I recently saw someone else who made basically the same video last week as well. I don't know who copied who, or maybe it just became a trending topic because of the viral short/tiktok.
Ive always thought it was hore shit that i pay premium versions of these apps only to be flooded with more ads that creators shove down my throat through internal videos or podcasts
sips my one diet mt dew I allow myself a week in fury lol. swapped to crystal light like 7 months ago amd strawberry caffeine crystal light is a blessing. If I lean down maybe 5-10 more pounds will be pretty close to peak natural
"do ppl do that"
That's all ppl do. It's rare to find someone who doesn't whether it's a regular person, politician news anchor or whatever. Even Drs when discussing things in conversation.
No one actually reads things. If they did they wouldn't think I was crazy when I point out obvious things that are literally in the instructions of paperwork you fill out, govt documents, medical or financial documents.
Words have to be clearly defined in documents, laws, financial etc..
The words are defined in the literature and don't mean what you think. It's not the same as common speak. We use the same words but speak a different language. So even if you read, you won't understand what it says if you don't also read how that particular document or section defines a term
Atleast in science the terms are universal. So everyone should atleast read through the summary if they are going to reference it. But it's good took at the whole thing because they are misrepresented all the time. And pplean well, they just want the world to work how they believe it does, so they see what they want to see to maintain their current perspective.
Usually someone doesn't look closer until there's a reason. Usually something tragic. That's when ppl actually have their reality shaken and are willing to change their understanding. Till then the fight to keep the understanding they have
God it’s so annoying on RUclips where you watch an ad. And then in the video.
“Guys this video is sponsored by”
Asmon always says it’s 1984 but it’s Brave New World by Huxley. If he’s saying this misinformation on purpose, that’s pretty brilliant.