Thanks for addressing all of these. I agree on all counts. Something I think is important to remember is that the adam/photon/infinity are all completely dsp based digital devices vs their analog counterparts. With a little tweaking I’ve been able to ‘clone’ all of my other darkglass pedals and that’s fantastic for a few reasons. Workflow is great bc I’m just changing presets and not physical hardware. I can have all of my favorite darkglass pedals on one small board instead of a huge board where I’m turning multiple things off/on. The Bluetooth functionality is a great and seemingly underrated feature. Being able to tweak and practice with one unit on the go is fantastic. Based on dg’s track record with software updates in the past I’m confident that things will be fine tuned and addressed in the future. I’d love to see some live tone demos. It’s fun and interesting to see others process and results.
A great point! The important thing with the Infinity to me is that it really does work and is easy to use. It's going to replace my rig on a few projects (and on a few it won't replace my current rig) and will definitely be the first thing I pick up if I get called up on a random gig. :)
The compressor to me is nice to have if you’re running just this as your only pedal. If you’re running a larger board as I am then having this as a DI box at the end of your chain makes sense but that’s not where I’d want my compressor.
@@Paajanenae I’m waiting for a dedicated pedal to use after my wah. For now I have compression off on the DG. I still love it as an EQ and for a little classic dirt. My three presets are a warm, mellow, classic bass; a modern mid that I use most of the time; and lastly a little dirt distortion I use for classic rock and when just a bit is needed. When I need a lot of grit I use either my Grizzly Bass (fantastic pedal), my Justin chancellor wah fuzz, or the h90. Of the three the grizzly is my fave. I have a shure wireless, then JC wah, then empress comp (waiting), then grizzly bass, then h90, the, Infiniti. I’m just starting to play with the h90 and mixing in distortion with the grizzly on some of those octaves and pitch shifts is nuts.
My favorite Drive pedal of all time is the standard Vintage Microtubes. It took me alot of tweaking in the Infinity to get close to my VMT settings but Im about 90% there which is more than good enough for Live use. I've owned probably 20+ Drive pedals(5 of which are DarkGlass) and the VMT is just perfect imo. The perfect blend of Vintage and modern without sounding too thin and trashcany like the Microtubes X and some B3K/B7K settings, and not as wooly as many "vintage" sounding dirt pedals.
@@Paajanenae I've never tried the Vintage Deluxe or Vintage Ultra but they dont have the "ERA" knob that the VMT has which is the magic of that pedal imo. Talkbass users say the VMT is kinda its own thing while the Vintage Deluxe and Ultra are alittle bit different because no ERA knob.
I completely agree with you at the end of your video, I feel like I can't get that extra grit or saturation and when I switch to passive (which sounds way better to me) i get a huge clean boost
Thanks for the info on the compressor. I tested it yesterday and also found that the blend option was lacking. We can't even do it on the darkglass suite, as it seems 😕
Thanks for continuing to dive deeper! Would love to see you build the 9 to 5 preset. Any chance you will have presets available in the Suite or elsewhere?
I've got the presets linked on my original demo video, just copy the text from the file and paste it into the suite :) I'm going to be uploading some presets to the Darkglass preset sharing platform once they get that one up and running!
For the touch screen unfunctional, you have to touch it with your whole pulp, unlike smartphones that only requires using fingertip. Then you can see your touch screen functioning well.
Yeah I figured it was like one of those older touch screens they used to have on phones. It's still quite dodgy at times, even when trying to reset it by tapping twice it can take a surprising amount of force for it to recognize the touch.
What a great video idea. Thanks, very useful!! is there still no way to turn off the noisegate? Thats pretty sad imo. Especially with the suite. This video maybe stopped another pedal collecting dust. Thanks a lot!
I hate to be such a noob, but I have never used a pedal this complicated before. Is it possible for you to put out an actual tutorial of how to build a tone? I am trying to get a warm vintage tone, but I am truthfully overwhelmed by the sheer number of options. Thanks.
Comparing x7 (x ultra?) with Infinity you are pretty right talking about midle and high ends, better with infinity i agree yes, but i found the work with the compressor under 500 in x7 is better. The fact is that the x7 has this low pass cut, so compressor only work on that...What you think? you think you can apply the work of x7 in this terms to the Infinity? Can Infinity offer a low pass cut like x7?
The multiband mode (distortion modes 4 & 5) on the Infinity assigns the compressor to only the lower frequencies and the compressor is also more adjustable than in the X7 so no problems there!
Hello, I am a Funk / soul / jazz bass player. I really love the multiple functionality and specs (phones, aux, USB interface, DI, low noise ..). I love the specs but I am not sure this pedal would be interesting to use as a clean preamp. I need a preamp to shape my tone through a V4B OR to add a cab simulation when playing through headphones or when recording. What's your opinion ? Coud it fit my needs ? Thanks
Using the Infinity as a clean preamp only would definitely be underselling its abilities, I'd perhaps look at the Darkglass Element for your situation! It has phones out, aux, bluetooth, DI, works as a USB-interface and can easily be integrated with other pedals or amps. If you need more shaping, then you can get a separate clean preamp pedal with that, like the MXR Thump or the Darkglass Harmonic Booster 👌
@@Paajanenae Thanks a lot. Good idea ! I am not a huge fan of the design (and of the absence of switch to turn it off) but it does tick many boxes here, including being used as an audio interface !! That's awesome. The Two Tones CAB M+ is also nice in terms of funcitonality, but again LCD screen is not for me. I love the brand new Revolt Bass (even though, I will keep it on Clean 90% of the time). But dang it looks so good !
@@Romain_Chafore I do understand the reluctance on having switchless pedals, but a switch would make very little sense on a poweramp/IR-modeller 😆 I'm looking to get my hands on the ReVolt, shouldn't be too long now!
@@Paajanenae Hmm I want to either play bass on my V4B / 212AV, which means I don't need to use my preamp that much, hence the need to deactivate it totally, OR play without my V4B (headphones or audio interface or Board). I want the preamp as a cab sim when I don't use my V4B
@@Paajanenae Two Notes has noticed the headphones output level to be too low to our taste. The units they already produced have this design flaw. However, future units will be corrected. If you purchased a V1 unit, you send it to them and have it fixed instead. There's a thread about it on Talkbass
What -db setting is everyone using for their noise suppressor? Also. What is the best method to getting a consistent connection to Darkglass suite? One day it connects fine, the next day it will not connect.
@@Paajanenae thanks man. I’ll give that setting a shot. I also have been able to connect to the suite consistently now. I power up my computer and the app as well as have my infinity on. I’ll connect the usb to the infinity, then my computer. Appreciate the response 🤘🏻
I'm extremely confused with all these cabinet settings, noise gate settings, etc. All I want to use - are the onboard controllers (compression, drive, tone/era, blend, level). The question is: Is it possible to set let's say Compression in position P1, Drive in position D4, Tone in position T2, Blend in position B5, Level in position L3 and save it all as my preset #1. Then change the settings to Compression in position P3, Drive in position D2, Tone in position T5, Blend in position B1, Level in position L4 and save it as my preset #2. Without involving any other settings. And then just in one click switch between preset #1 and preset #2. Is that possible?
Hi dear friend. May I ask a few questions please? while you seem very experienced... I have seen and the other video of yours while you are trying to explain further the unit. However I couldn't still find answers... I am about to buy either the Infinity or the Photon. To tell you the truth I prefer the Photon for my playing-music style. It seems more versatile to me. And the distortion circuits more to my liking. However I need the clean sounds also. I'm not seeking just an overdrive-distortion Pedal. The necessity of the clean sound is vital. 1.) Without any mode selected on the Infinity, there is a total clean studio grade channel. The same I suppose as found on the Photon unit. How that sound is compared to the 1st mode tube like clean channel? Are there huge differences in the sound character? 2.) Is there enough headroom for both of them? 0 mode and 1st mode... 3.) How can someone understand if he clips the signal or not? 4.) On the 0 mode channel (total clean) the compressor is applied in full frequency spectrum. Can I still use the compressor and the eq without any Blend or gain? 5.) When you mess with all the other distortion modes of the unit... The applied "clean" sound when blending is the 0 mode or the 1st tube like mode? Thank you.
The "0 channel" is totally clean and without any coloration to the signal. It's what your bass puts out, which can be desireable but I personally rarely end up with that tone when dialling cleans. The compressor, EQ and cabinet simulation all work on this channel as well. There is no difference between the headroom between channels 1 and 0, but with channel 1 you can use the drive control to emulate a more "pushed" clean amplifier. There is a huge difference in sound between the two, not only because channel 1 is a multiband channel. When blending a clean signal into a distortion, you're blending in the uneffected signal which is the mode 0.
Great video, I recently just got my Microtubes infinity. But when I'm using it as an audio interface via USB, my DAW only picks up very little signal from my bass, the waveforms are extremely small even though I turned the level all the way up. Have you encountered the same issue? Now I'm searching all over the place to find a solution.
I wish it had one yeah, but having an effects loop in a digital pedal would demand two extra AD/DA converters which I don't think would fit inside the pedal. I don't really miss it, my effects are all before the Infinity but I understand why you'd want it
@@mkosmos Apparently a polyphonic well done pitch shifter algorithm would be a huge stress on any DSP, maybe one day we'll get the QC of bass that can do all that and more 💪
I'm planing on buying it and using it as an interface to play through my computer, on the question regarding using it as a recording interface with pedals, can it be used in clean mode with pedals and record that signal?
Ah, I guess I shouldn't have skipped those electronics lessons in school 😂 I've seen a lot of guitars with a ground wire connected to the shielding, but I guess a guitars shielding isn't a Faraday cage then :P
Great video. I’d love to see a video where you tone shape and explain more about the high and low pass sliders in the darkglass suite. Rock on 🤘🏼
Thanks for addressing all of these. I agree on all counts. Something I think is important to remember is that the adam/photon/infinity are all completely dsp based digital devices vs their analog counterparts. With a little tweaking I’ve been able to ‘clone’ all of my other darkglass pedals and that’s fantastic for a few reasons. Workflow is great bc I’m just changing presets and not physical hardware. I can have all of my favorite darkglass pedals on one small board instead of a huge board where I’m turning multiple things off/on. The Bluetooth functionality is a great and seemingly underrated feature. Being able to tweak and practice with one unit on the go is fantastic. Based on dg’s track record with software updates in the past I’m confident that things will be fine tuned and addressed in the future. I’d love to see some live tone demos. It’s fun and interesting to see others process and results.
A great point! The important thing with the Infinity to me is that it really does work and is easy to use. It's going to replace my rig on a few projects (and on a few it won't replace my current rig) and will definitely be the first thing I pick up if I get called up on a random gig. :)
You articulated your answers to the question sooo clearly, man. Super helpful! Keep it up!
Thank you!
Thank you! 🥰
Just got my Microtubes Infinity. What a piece of art. I love it. I just played with the initial presets. Amazing sound.
Sounds great! If you haven't yet, make sure to download my presets from my review video :)
Your videos are EXTREMELY helpful and VERY well-done - thanks! Would be great to see you dialing in a tone in the software.
Thank you so much! 🙌 I try my best 😊
The compressor to me is nice to have if you’re running just this as your only pedal.
If you’re running a larger board as I am then having this as a DI box at the end of your chain makes sense but that’s not where I’d want my compressor.
You can always use multiple instances of compression! It changes how the distortions react so I wouldn't discount using it even with a larger board :)
@@Paajanenae I’m waiting for a dedicated pedal to use after my wah. For now I have compression off on the DG. I still love it as an EQ and for a little classic dirt. My three presets are a warm, mellow, classic bass; a modern mid that I use most of the time; and lastly a little dirt distortion I use for classic rock and when just a bit is needed.
When I need a lot of grit I use either my Grizzly Bass (fantastic pedal), my Justin chancellor wah fuzz, or the h90. Of the three the grizzly is my fave.
I have a shure wireless, then JC wah, then empress comp (waiting), then grizzly bass, then h90, the, Infiniti.
I’m just starting to play with the h90 and mixing in distortion with the grizzly on some of those octaves and pitch shifts is nuts.
My favorite Drive pedal of all time is the standard Vintage Microtubes. It took me alot of tweaking in the Infinity to get close to my VMT settings but Im about 90% there which is more than good enough for Live use. I've owned probably 20+ Drive pedals(5 of which are DarkGlass) and the VMT is just perfect imo. The perfect blend of Vintage and modern without sounding too thin and trashcany like the Microtubes X and some B3K/B7K settings, and not as wooly as many "vintage" sounding dirt pedals.
I'll still need to try out the Vintage Deluxe at some point, that seems so cool!
@@Paajanenae I've never tried the Vintage Deluxe or Vintage Ultra but they dont have the "ERA" knob that the VMT has which is the magic of that pedal imo. Talkbass users say the VMT is kinda its own thing while the Vintage Deluxe and Ultra are alittle bit different because no ERA knob.
Couple days late, it's been a friggin week man, but finally getting the time to watch!
Haha, no worries! Glad to have you here :)
Dude that dry DI sound already sounded epic!
agreed. Super consistent too @paajanenae
I completely agree with you at the end of your video, I feel like I can't get that extra grit or saturation and when I switch to passive (which sounds way better to me) i get a huge clean boost
Yeah, it's really strange!
thanks for your time and useful explanations my friend
Thanks for the info on the compressor. I tested it yesterday and also found that the blend option was lacking.
We can't even do it on the darkglass suite, as it seems 😕
Yeah that's a bit underwhelming
Phenomenal video, thanks for answering my question!
Thank you! 🙌
Thanks for continuing to dive deeper! Would love to see you build the 9 to 5 preset. Any chance you will have presets available in the Suite or elsewhere?
I've got the presets linked on my original demo video, just copy the text from the file and paste it into the suite :) I'm going to be uploading some presets to the Darkglass preset sharing platform once they get that one up and running!
Super helpful video!!! 🤘
Thank you! Glad to hear it ☺️
For the touch screen unfunctional, you have to touch it with your whole pulp, unlike smartphones that only requires using fingertip. Then you can see your touch screen functioning well.
Yeah I figured it was like one of those older touch screens they used to have on phones. It's still quite dodgy at times, even when trying to reset it by tapping twice it can take a surprising amount of force for it to recognize the touch.
What a great video idea. Thanks, very useful!!
is there still no way to turn off the noisegate? Thats pretty sad imo. Especially with the suite.
This video maybe stopped another pedal collecting dust. Thanks a lot!
The noise gate needs to be turned on by the user at first, by default it's off :)
Can you post any updated preset for the pedal? Especially any favorites for funk or vintage sounds.
A bit tough since I don't play those genres at all 😅 Glad you like my content though!
I hate to be such a noob, but I have never used a pedal this complicated before. Is it possible for you to put out an actual tutorial of how to build a tone? I am trying to get a warm vintage tone, but I am truthfully overwhelmed by the sheer number of options. Thanks.
Comparing x7 (x ultra?) with Infinity you are pretty right talking about midle and high ends, better with infinity i agree yes, but i found the work with the compressor under 500 in x7 is better. The fact is that the x7 has this low pass cut, so compressor only work on that...What you think? you think you can apply the work of x7 in this terms to the Infinity? Can Infinity offer a low pass cut like x7?
The multiband mode (distortion modes 4 & 5) on the Infinity assigns the compressor to only the lower frequencies and the compressor is also more adjustable than in the X7 so no problems there!
@@Paajanenae great! thank you!
I would like to get some Clean presets with tube preamp and a bit of B3K. Do you have any to share?"
Sorry, all the presets I've made are in the Darkglass cloud!
Hello, I am a Funk / soul / jazz bass player. I really love the multiple functionality and specs (phones, aux, USB interface, DI, low noise ..). I love the specs but I am not sure this pedal would be interesting to use as a clean preamp. I need a preamp to shape my tone through a V4B OR to add a cab simulation when playing through headphones or when recording. What's your opinion ? Coud it fit my needs ? Thanks
Using the Infinity as a clean preamp only would definitely be underselling its abilities, I'd perhaps look at the Darkglass Element for your situation! It has phones out, aux, bluetooth, DI, works as a USB-interface and can easily be integrated with other pedals or amps. If you need more shaping, then you can get a separate clean preamp pedal with that, like the MXR Thump or the Darkglass Harmonic Booster 👌
@@Paajanenae Thanks a lot. Good idea ! I am not a huge fan of the design (and of the absence of switch to turn it off) but it does tick many boxes here, including being used as an audio interface !! That's awesome. The Two Tones CAB M+ is also nice in terms of funcitonality, but again LCD screen is not for me. I love the brand new Revolt Bass (even though, I will keep it on Clean 90% of the time). But dang it looks so good !
@@Romain_Chafore I do understand the reluctance on having switchless pedals, but a switch would make very little sense on a poweramp/IR-modeller 😆 I'm looking to get my hands on the ReVolt, shouldn't be too long now!
@@Paajanenae Hmm I want to either play bass on my V4B / 212AV, which means I don't need to use my preamp that much, hence the need to deactivate it totally, OR play without my V4B (headphones or audio interface or Board). I want the preamp as a cab sim when I don't use my V4B
@@Paajanenae Two Notes has noticed the headphones output level to be too low to our taste. The units they already produced have this design flaw. However, future units will be corrected. If you purchased a V1 unit, you send it to them and have it fixed instead. There's a thread about it on Talkbass
What -db setting is everyone using for their noise suppressor?
Also. What is the best method to getting a consistent connection to Darkglass suite? One day it connects fine, the next day it will not connect.
I usually set it around 11 o'clock, depends a lot on the instrument though :)
For the latter question you might want to contact the Darkglass support!
@@Paajanenae thanks man. I’ll give that setting a shot.
I also have been able to connect to the suite consistently now. I power up my computer and the app as well as have my infinity on. I’ll connect the usb to the infinity, then my computer.
Appreciate the response 🤘🏻
Great video! Really helpful. I have question, whether separate di is needed or infinity on-board eq is enough
Not sure why you'd need EQ for DI, but you can route the dry signal to any output and use that as a DI :)
I'm extremely confused with all these cabinet settings, noise gate settings, etc.
All I want to use - are the onboard controllers (compression, drive, tone/era, blend, level).
The question is: Is it possible to set let's say Compression in position P1, Drive in position D4, Tone in position T2, Blend in position B5, Level in position L3 and save it all as my preset #1. Then change the settings to Compression in position P3, Drive in position D2, Tone in position T5, Blend in position B1, Level in position L4 and save it as my preset #2.
Without involving any other settings.
And then just in one click switch between preset #1 and preset #2.
Is that possible?
Yes, this is entirely possible! That's how I use it, I have three presets which only differ in the amount of gain, compression and EQ :)
@@Paajanenae Cool. Happy to know that. And how to save such presets and to switch between them?
btw, thanks for your quick response.
I think I just made the first tone a preset on the app,then loaded that preset into all the preset slots and tweaked it from there iirc.
Hi dear friend.
May I ask a few questions please? while you seem very experienced...
I have seen and the other video of yours while you are trying to explain further the unit. However I couldn't still find answers...
I am about to buy either the Infinity or the Photon. To tell you the truth I prefer the Photon for my playing-music style. It seems more versatile to me. And the distortion circuits more to my liking. However I need the clean sounds also. I'm not seeking just an overdrive-distortion Pedal. The necessity of the clean sound is vital.
1.) Without any mode selected on the Infinity, there is a total clean studio grade channel. The same I suppose as found on the Photon unit. How that sound is compared to the 1st mode tube like clean channel? Are there huge differences in the sound character?
2.) Is there enough headroom for both of them? 0 mode and 1st mode...
3.) How can someone understand if he clips the signal or not?
4.) On the 0 mode channel (total clean) the compressor is applied in full frequency spectrum. Can I still use the compressor and the eq without any Blend or gain?
5.) When you mess with all the other distortion modes of the unit... The applied "clean" sound when blending is the 0 mode or the 1st tube like mode?
Thank you.
The "0 channel" is totally clean and without any coloration to the signal. It's what your bass puts out, which can be desireable but I personally rarely end up with that tone when dialling cleans. The compressor, EQ and cabinet simulation all work on this channel as well. There is no difference between the headroom between channels 1 and 0, but with channel 1 you can use the drive control to emulate a more "pushed" clean amplifier. There is a huge difference in sound between the two, not only because channel 1 is a multiband channel. When blending a clean signal into a distortion, you're blending in the uneffected signal which is the mode 0.
Have you had any success stacking other OD pedals before the infinity?
Yes! Check out my pedalboard build video 😄
Great video, I recently just got my Microtubes infinity. But when I'm using it as an audio interface via USB, my DAW only picks up very little signal from my bass, the waveforms are extremely small even though I turned the level all the way up. Have you encountered the same issue? Now I'm searching all over the place to find a solution.
I haven't used mine as a USB interface, but you might want to contact Darkglass at support@darkglass.com !
@@Paajanenae thx for the reply! going to send an email.
What about the lack of effects loop? It's a show stopper for me.
I wish it had one yeah, but having an effects loop in a digital pedal would demand two extra AD/DA converters which I don't think would fit inside the pedal. I don't really miss it, my effects are all before the Infinity but I understand why you'd want it
only thing this pedal is missing (for me at least) is some kind of pitch shifter...
Something like the Drop or just an Octaver? 😄 I'm thinking of building a board with the Infinity and the Drop on it for my thall band :)
@@Paajanenae exactly, those two, the Drop and Infinity would be all i need
@@mkosmos Apparently a polyphonic well done pitch shifter algorithm would be a huge stress on any DSP, maybe one day we'll get the QC of bass that can do all that and more 💪
Are you ever going to make presets D,E, and F accessible without having to use the app?
The new Darkglass MIDI footswitch will give you access to 5 presets once it's out! They posted an update on that in January :)
Is anyone using this pedal outside of punk|metal music?
I'm planing on buying it and using it as an interface to play through my computer, on the question regarding using it as a recording interface with pedals, can it be used in clean mode with pedals and record that signal?
To my understanding you always get both the DI and the processed tones frlm the Infinity when using it as an Audio Interface :)
A Faraday cage does not have to be grounded. 😉
Ah, I guess I shouldn't have skipped those electronics lessons in school 😂 I've seen a lot of guitars with a ground wire connected to the shielding, but I guess a guitars shielding isn't a Faraday cage then :P