the health/PE teacher who passed is my cousin, and her loss really shook up my family. hearing the perspective of a surviving teacher answered questions she wasn’t here to tell us. thank you, mark and kelly, for this interview. i’ve shared it with other family members in hopes they can find answers too :,)
What school and district was this? I grew up in North County. I don't know how, but somehow I missed this being reported. I vaguely remember an issue at McCluer, if that's the school? My condolences for your loss Mary.
This is my old high school. She wasn't lying when she said it broke everybody in the community. My heart breaks to this day remembering Ms. Kuczka. It sounds stupid, but she was the first PE teacher I've ever had who always made me feel comfortable as a bigger student in gym class. It's little in the moment, but those small encouragements mean so much when you're a shy child. Gym wasn't supposed to be an uncomfortable place. She simply wanted us to be healthier and more active. In those moments, the meaning behind the actions are simple, but the impact lasts forever. Central VPA was a deep community for us students. A school of siblings. I'll never forgive those same hallway walls painted with our students' art, being tainted with something so evil. R.I.P, Ms. Kuczka. Thank you for always letting me listen to music when we did our laps. Oh, and don't forget to bring your damn gym uniforms, or that ass was going to detention 😭😭! Love and miss her so much!
Very difficult situation but I think people need to grow some balls and start standing up for their communities. We are disconnected from each other. All of us. Because of the internet and laziness.
@@donaldmack2307Really? I live in Britain, I might get hit by a bus, I'm unlikely to be a victim of gun crime. We have strict gun laws here, and haven't had a school shooting in over 30 years.
@@adambrocklehurst4211you may be privileged not to suffer gun violence. Yet you suffer from increased knife violence/crimes and drill culture. What makes that better? Our youth needs help here; that's the issue.
I live down the block from the school where it happened, and that day will live with me forever. I was running errands and got caught in traffic nearby--it was chaotic. I saw parents running from blocks away, ditching their cars in the middle of busy roads, to get to their children. Kids climbed out of second-story windows and were running to the park adjacent to the school. Strangers were rescuing kids and ushering them across the road. Police were on the scene within minutes, and because of Uvalde, acted immediately saving many many lives.
Uvalde was a disgrace. That only worse even after. That mother who hopped the fence and brought her 2 son and their classes out to safety was arrested. The judge threw out the charges but Uvalde Police threatened to bring back up an old charge from years ago that was suspended or violate her on a probation (or something similar) threatening her with that if she didn’t stop talking to the press. Then at the funeral (this is actually recorded, a biker admits they were hired by Uvalde Police) a Motorcycle Club was there intimidating reporters. Then to top it off, the most disgusting of all…Do you remember this rumor that was going around during the right’s attack on school boards and books that litter boxes were being put in classrooms for children who identify as cats to use as restrooms? It was even pushed by actual sitting US Congress members. That WHOLE BS thing originated from a company who donated ‘School Mass Shooting Emergency Kits’ to a whole bunch of schools. It was a bucket with bandages, gauze, tourniquets, a whole bunch of first aid supplies and I think even a radio, and they also came with a bag of kitty litter to soak up blood and guts all everything….also directions suggest if children are on lockdown in their classrooms for hours it can be poured in the emptied out bucket and used as temporary facilities. This company donated 1 for each classroom closet for hundreds of schools… aaand what does the right do? Actual sitting US congress members and senators for F sake? They take something that serious and twist it into this BS to 1. use for attack on trans people. 2. Give their dopey base another ridiculous thing to outrage about. And most of all… 3. Take the focus off of mass school shootings and non existent gun control laws threatening our children and turn the focus towards the threat of nonexistent litter boxes. Doesn’t get much lower than that.
@@myeyeswentdeaf6213once you talked about the right like it was their fault, you lost me. I think you are lost as well. Just like people on the right and left. You think people on the right “attack trans” most of them don’t care. Stop teaching kids they can cut off their dicks. I don’t even see how that is a “right” issue. I don’t think you talk to many people because democrats don’t like that shit either. That’s a losing issue like abortion for the right. Idiots in their think tanks.
@@myeyeswentdeaf6213It's leftist kids that are shooting up these schools and murdering these children. Please take a breathe and walk away from the insanity you've been binging on.
I've been regularly watching SWU since before COVID and can say this one is my favorite interview of all-time. This woman is amazing. I suspect this is the direction Mark is heading with SWU and all of us need that. Good lord do we need that! Thank you Mark.
I love this interview because it’s a very unique perspective with insight that we don’t usually hear. Also enjoying the evolution and different subjects we’re getting this year from SWU. Thanks Mark.
I've been an art teacher for almost 10 years. Fortunately never experienced a school shooting, but definitely see a drastic change in behavior and mental health in students. Far less engagement, even with students who love art. My first 4 years before the pandemic were the best, I'm now considering either leaving the profession or moving to a smaller district. You can only take so much trauma each day and feel like you are not supported by a district that wants to ignore the problem or even blame teachers for not doing enough when we are doing too much.
I've discussed this topic with a teacher I was close to in college and am curious of your perspective as a teacher...what do you think has changed to make students like that now vs before? Is it all COVID or what else are contributing factors?
@@Jooles791I work at a title 1 school (over half of the students are on free reduced lunch) lots of families lost jobs during the pandemic which caused trauma, poverty. Also, students developed tech addiction to phones, games and have had a hard time to adjust back to the classroom. I've found there's a theme of "what's the point of school" too. Many just want to start working and make money without realizing education is one of the major factors in getting well paying, enjoyable careers. Overall, I've had more incidents of rage, and ignoring teachers.
Oh Kelly, you’re such a beautiful human. The way you talk about your students and your art room makes me wish you were my teacher growing up. I’m so sorry you all went through that and I hope you all heal in time. Those kids will never forget you. Thank you for the person you are as there’s way too many shit ones out there. X
She should find another line of work - she's hurting the students. She's supposed to be the adult in the room - if it's not clear to you that she's not the adult in the room, then you need to watch this again.
Teaching artist sister: the holy, creative space you customized lives within you, the room you built is just the physical manifestation of something you were born with, and even though that room has been corrupted, that creative space within is always safe and pure. I’m so glad you’re alive and that you told this story.
There’s a reason why, drug rehabs, mental health treatment centers, trauma therapy, etc. ALL have an art therapy class or day. NO MATTER WHAT, that room will ALWAYS be a place for pure and true art. What happened in that room was terrible, but NO MATTER how terrible, it’s got nothing on art, the healing power art has. Art has some kinda power that can help people cope, bounce back, etc. And if it’s one thing I’ve noticed is (and this is NOT me saying ‘LoOk At ThE bRiGhT sIdE’ or some BS like that), I’ve noticed in my own screwed up life is some of the best art, my own and others, has come from trauma. Some of the best artists I’ve ever seen were in prison. I’ve come up with some of my best concepts trying to process my trauma or emotions through art. That scumbag may have killed people in that room but he could never kill the purpose of that room…. It should stay as the art room. I hop it did.
Kelly, me and everyone in STL love you and your dedication and passion for teaching..please stay strong and keep doing what your doing..if there were more teachers like you the world would be a better place! Peace and Love to you!!
What a smart woman. I'm 5:30 in and your psych analysis of the shooter and his past sound spot on. You have a beautiful heart and really understand things. Thank you for being a caring and loving teacher. I wish I had you growing up.
The art teachers were always the coolest teachers!!! I can't draw a bucket of water from a well, but i would find myself hanging out in the art room all the time!!!
What up Grams. Art teachers ARE awesome. I’m a sick artist and I mean I am REALLY good, but I failed every art class I’ve ever had because I wouldn’t draw what I was told. It was so weird to me, because the teachers would say how they knew what a great artist I was but would say just because you know this stuff already doesn’t mean you don’t have to do the class curriculum. ….I was doing wildstyles on buildings with characters and backgrounds and everything, I was NOT gonna sit there in class and draw a square and a circle for a half hour. 😂
Im one of the people that responded to the school shooting in Oxford, MI. No amount of train g will ever properly prepare you for that. It was one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. No child should ever have to worry about being safe at school.
From the first frame of this video you could see the pain in her face. Even when she smiles. She is a blessing to this world, very kind and soft. Her and I must be around the same age because columbine happened when I was in middle school but I too NEVER felt the fear I do nowadays sending my daughter to school. My daughter is just in 2nd grade but I worry about the years to come all the time. .........Thank you for doing this interview
I have one close friend and one family member who both left the teaching profession (that they LOVED) because the emotional/mental health of the kids has declined so far that they were finding it hard to actually have time to TEACH their subject (an English teacher and a chorus teacher) due to all the emotional issues, behavioral issues and psychiatric problems among the students (and dare I say even the teachers...). So sad what we've become over the last decade.
My grandparents on my dads side had middle school education, worked their ass off, owned their own farm on 300+ acres, and raised 4 kids. My graparents on my moms side had high school education, raised 4 kids and put them all through university, and owned their own home just by working. My parents are very skilled and well educated, and managed to raise my brother and I in our small house but with very little extra time after work for raising us or having their own life. Now Im older than my parents were when I was born, much older than my grandparents were when they had all 4, and what do I have? College education and a great work ethic, busting my ass at 15 different jobs and not one has ever paid a living wage. I live in a very small apartment, drive a car that can't be inspected again, no savings or retirement plan, no kids, no hobbies (no money or room), no life to speak of no matter how hard I work. The kids that are coming up now have even more education and understanding of whats going on, and know that after school, nothing awaits most of them no matter how hard they work. They have easy access to weapons. What more do you need to know? If the goal of society is to ruin families and maintain slaves that work 60 hours a week just to feed themselves, don't arm them.
Beautifully written summary of our shared nightmare. PS I don’t know you but you seem like a smart, compassionate, and thoughtful person. I care about you and hope you’ll be ok, that you’ll find joy here and there, irregardless.
There is nothing left to Live for anymore, is there? If youre older than your own parents and even you couldn't do It. How the fuck are we supposed to fix this hell?
@higgaroc Thank you. It really means a lot to me, and these days, very little does. If it were just me, I would blame myself, but I see this trend in most of the hundreds of young people I used to know. I'm just tired of people putting it on themselves as if nothing has changed between the generations when we all know it has. We pretend to have the same chances and expect to be masters of our own destiny, but after you run into the wall over and over and can't physically do more, you should realize it's just luck, and the odds get longer every year. I have gotten used to austerity and starvation, I don't even get hungry anymore, but I won't do that to my child. Eventually, the bastards doing this will either stop, or our society will die with them.
I survived a school shooting as well, I was in the cafeteria first day of sophomore year and a class mate of mine brought in a shotgun during lunch. He shot a special needs kid and then an unarmed guidance counselor (mr. Wasmer) stepped in and tackled the shooter(bobby gladden). Gladden let off one more round through the ceiling and more teachers stepped in before the cops arrived. Thank god for mr wasmer because he came with 60 rounds. In interrogation he admitted to attempting to kill 59 people and then end himself just to "show how fucked up this world is". His own words. He was always strange freshman year. He was in my English class. Perry Hall school shooting in 2011
I remember hearing about that one, Baltimore I believe right. That’s what stuck out to me. I’m from Brooklyn NY. In all my I don’t think NYC has ever had a school shooting. (My definition being mass shooting). Back in the early 90’s a kid was shot in the neck on the first day of school in the hallway, but that such a rare occurrence. It happened because some kid was show another kid his gun by his locker and it went off, hit another kids down the hall. Then last year a couple kids (I think this was a gang thing) had an argument in school an one wait outside and chased him like 2 or 3 blocks and the news reported it as a school shooting. Your school shooting stuck out to me because Baltimore!? Inner city school shootings where the intent is just high body count of random victims is extremely rare.
@@jr224 myeyeswentdeaf's point was NYC has never had a school shooting. 1. The misfire and 2. the possibly gang-related chasing of another kid were just examples of the only things he could remember that remotely represented anything like a school shooting. He was NOT saying the misfire was a school shooting. You might want to read again a little more carefully. (eyes - I hope you don't mind me speaking on your behalf.)
My nephew is a survivor of the Parkland shooting. It’s unreal how many school shootings there have been since. He’s obviously still traumatized, especially on Valentines Day which is the anniversary of the shooting. My heart goes out to her and all the victims and survivors of school shootings. 😢😢
Bless you fellow St. Louis teacher! This event hit me harder than any other shooting that has happened in my 26 years, since it happened in my hometown. It was one of many reasons I retired 2 years early….
Yes, a very dear friend and cousin of mine is now, thank God a retired teacher. When school shootings started happening regularly I worried about her safety almost daily. I was so happy when she retired. It's awful to think that her retirement meant that she made it out alive. No students or teachers or shoppers or movie goers or church goers should have to be afraid of being shot when we are supposedly not living in a war zone.
As a mother this makes me so sad. We send our kids to school to learn and experience independence and grow as individuals. School is supposed to be a safe place. We as a nation have to do better for our kids, for our teachers, for everyone. Things need to change. This is heartbreaking and scary.
You live in a fantasy world where your children are victim to the reality you refuse to acknowledge. And what is a good citizen? Simply one who never says, does or thinks anything that is unusual. Schools are maintained in order to bring this uniformity up to the highest possible point. A school is a hopper into which children are heaved while they are still young and tender; therein they are pressed into certain standard shapes and covered from head to heels with official rubber-stamps. Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination. Our schools and colleges are turning out people who cannot feel fulfilled unless they are telling other people what to do. "Education should aim at destroying free will, so that after pupils are thus schooled, they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished." - Johann Gottlieb Fichte
@@AngryHateMusic you're certainly right about that. Well said. We're going to homeschool our son when he's old enough. I also bought him a small .22 rifle. I'm gonna teach him how to shoot as soon as he can hold it properly. (Gotta potty train him first)
@@davee7962 To have a religion, there must be some kind of Bible or Torah, and the Government Religion has one - the US Constitution - along with supporting documents (call them Sunnah or Talmud) such as the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, and state constitutions. Like the Bible, they are held in reverence, and simultaneously ignored in deed. The word Law sounds better than force. Social contract sounds better than enforced obedience. Taxation sounds better than theft. Central banking sounds better than counterfeiting. Corporation sounds better than legal immunity. Arrest sounds better than kidnapping. National debt sounds better than selling off the unborn. Democracy sounds better than mob rule. Public school sounds better than forced indoctrination. "So the world got compulsion schooling at the end of a state bayonet for the first time in human history; modern forced schooling started in Prussia in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schools could deliver: - Obedient soldiers to the army; - Obedient workers to the mines; - Well subordinated civil servants to government; - Well subordinated clerks to industry - Citizens who thought alike about major issues." - John Taylor Gatto (New York State Teacher of the year.)
Decades ago, I remember being so frustrated with all the gun violence and thinking, "What's it going to take to change the laws, kids getting murdered in classrooms?" thinking it would never get to that point before drastic measures and laws would happen. Unbelievable that is the reality now and there still is such opposition to common sense laws.
@@jackselle4607do you not understand that there are literally thousands of gun laws in the USA already that don’t prevent shootings and also there are more guns in the USA than people. Create laws isn’t going to make it stop. If it does it will be in like 200 years
Such a beautiful human being inside and out. I'm glad she's still here to offer her beauty to the world. This world has become ugly but there is still beauty to be held!
It isn’t becoming ugly, it’s always been ugly (in part)…it’s just at the forefront now given the light that can be shined on the mental health crisis, etc. 🤙
Ok but how could she possibly know if the shooter was bullied at school? She said it's a big school how could they possibly know what's going on? I was bullied at school, I had a knive on my throat during break and no teacher ever found out. So to say he wasn't bullied or they'd know, seems so naive and ignorant even.
Teachers know. Teachers know who’s being bullied. They may not know exactly where it’s happening or when. They don’t know every instance that’s happening, like what happened to you (btw, sry you had to deal with that), but they know who’s being bullied. And for the same reason you didn’t tell on them who pulled a knife on you, is the same reason the teachers who knew you were being bullied didn’t say nothing, is the same reason prison guards who see an inmate getting punked…, they know just like you knew, you telling an authority figure, or even them seeing an authority figure looking out for you on their own, will just make things sooo much worse for you. There’s ONLY ONE way to handle bullies. That’s why I’m against these ‘Zero Tolerance’ for fighting policies in schools, because these teachers and school staff know who’s who and they know who was fighting to stand up for themselves. Sad thing about ‘Zero Tolerance’ policy is it’s usually the kid that’s being bullied that’s always the one who gets caught starting the fight, because they’re not the type experienced in knowing what to look for and when and how to not get caught. They just know today’s the day I’m gonna stand up to my bully and they end up pummeling him in the middle of math class or something. But sad part is, then, because of ‘Zero Tolerance’, that kid who gets bullied, for whatever reason (like maybe he’s weak or skinny and nerdy or whatever), he gets expelled, but NOW he gets sent to the bad school..the school for violent and troubled youth. The kinda place his bullies wouldn’t last a day. Ain’t that some sh**!?
The NRA is pushing into Australia’s political right. They came pretty close recently, only a few years ago, but you Australians stopped em. They tried loosing the gun laws there, but they tried to go too far and it sparked outrage.
It is so mind-boggling to me that we as a country don't find these (now common) situations so viscerally disturbing that we make major changes like other countries have. Between gun violence and health care, I feel so frustrated living here.
Looking in from outside of the US is just as frustrating. I think a lot of people have just gotten so accustomed to it all that it’s their new normal. But from an outsiders perspective it’s horrifying to watch
Changes don’t start at the top and trickle down. We need to be bold in our hearts and not wait for the government or society to do the right thing and keep the people in their best interests. Just look at how many among us scoff at others for just wanting to raise children. There’s a sinister idea pervading sick society that the fewer humans living, the better. School shootings are just one manifestation of that nihilism. I am homeschooling my children and live in a county where almost one third of the children are homeschooled and the percentage is rising. I played in a band with some of the Columbine survivors and learned to avoid crowds/herding (including herd mentality) as much as possible.
I am a teacher and I have this fear every single day that this will happen when I go to work. Thanks for this story Mark and for sharing Kelly. Teachers that care about strangers kids are heroes.
You could see the emotions just under the surface as soon as this lady started speaking. I cannot imagine the terror she must have felt. Teaching should not be a high risk occupation. My kids would have been honoured to have been taught by this lovely caring lady.
Kelly, I'm so sorry you & your students & other teachers suffered this tragedy....I truly am! You are Awesome! 💖I wish you so much strength & Peace in your soul - that you should find a way to make that happen for yourself. Cuz I can tell that you give what Peace & Strength you do have to all of those around you!! Thank you for sharing...Be Well Beautiful !!
Yeah a fellow St. Louisian. Unfortunately, discussing a horrible day. My heart goes out to you and your school. May God be with you and comfort your sorrows.
17:25 the teacher mask sort of slips, she wants to claim he wasn’t bullied. So many kids are bullied In school. This isn’t to justify the shooters actions but I’m shocked to see a teacher blow off that bullying could have been a factor She said bullying isn’t an issue at her school, don’t buy that for a second
EXACTLY. Quite frankly the way this teacher behaves (like a scared little baby) would have traumatized ME as a young student. Good God, she's supposed to be the kids protector and leader??? Uggggh!
@@laureldevine Sounds like YOU are the scared little baby. One can only wonder how you would have behaved under the circumstances. This teacher told of her experience with grace, love and thoughtfulness. You must be projecting, because there is not one iota of "scared little baby" to be found in her. In other words, @thematriarchy2075 is spot on.
Wow! Kelly is so impressive! She is insightful, empathetic, and wise. She has a very balanced point of view from understanding the needs of her students to the harsh reality of teaching, nurturing, and protecting them. 🏆
My community had a school shooting in 2012, i still think about it and cry. A close friends brother passed in the shooting. Our whole community changed that day, unimaginable pain and terror. My heart goes out to her and their whole community, sending love and healing ❤
It starts in the home . I had a hard childhood and made choices based off of the treatment or lack there of at home. I chose to run away I chose to join a gang I chose to commit crimes but I did this because of what I saw at home. I look at my son and where he is, in his life and it's good, Fantastic!!! And even though his mother and I have had our issues he's always had mom and dad at home when he needed us . He understands what love and compassion are, he also understands that life is hard and it can get harder if you make it. He graduated from highschool he now has a full time job and he's 18 years old. He also understands a lot of the nuance things we learn in life the "moral compass" . I attribute it all to his upbringing when I was his age I was serving 6 years for armed robbery I was doing drugs ,dealing drugs, just wild ! And I did not have the same upbringing that my son has had. Mostly just my mom. My dad was dead so a lot of stepfather shit was happening then physical abuse and the feeling that I was in the way of my mother's life and what she wanted to do.
I couldn't agree more. You become a product of your environment. We've all done stupid things throughout life. It comes down to how you recover from it. You've seen the negative first hand and didn't want that for your son so you made the necessary decisions to break the cycle. You did the right things for your son to become a productive young man. It sounds like you have done a great job. You should be proud
She said the exact thing I’ve always thought. Just how effective ARE active shooter drills when the shooter is a current or former student who knows the layout and also the drills?
As a HS teacher I feel her. We can’t help but love our students, even the difficult ones. We see their struggles and their pain and wish we could save them all. The best job in the world.
I live about 15 minutes away from Chardon, OH, (white, upper class, suburb) where in 2012, a student shot 6 people, killing 3. Within a year, people pretending like it never happened. I think they were afraid of their property value going down. Great interview Kelly’ I’d bet your students love you!
Wow I’m so proud of her for being able to tell her story I can’t imagine what that was like. I’m a first time mom and sometimes think about homeschooling my son cuz this world is too scary
I think she nailed it. All schools should be on alert every step of the way. It would be horribly life changing to go through this. I feel for every person going through through a school shooting.
I almost died in a fire. I can definitely relate to the auditory triggers. I’ve been in 2 places since where the fire alarm went off and I was the first one out both times. The smells and sounds are the strongest part of ptsd
Sorry to hear that, but glad you made it out alive…therapy, etc. tends to help at least somewhat but I can only empathize as I’ve never been through an ordeal like that myself, God bless ☦️🤙
@@Time_flies_fast99% of firearms live in a box or a safe and hardly see usage. The US has more firearms than people. Be grateful you’re as safe as you are. If you don’t enjoy it here, maybe try China 🇨🇳 They have very strict gun laws
@@Time_flies_fast so tools shoot themselfs at people? your retarded it’s the person who is behind the gun that kills 🤡 you all sound same and say same shit so try again😂😂🇺🇸
She seems like such a sweet teacher. This world is breaking my heart, I remember having lock downs but they were false alarms, and that was in 2012-2017 time frame between middle school and high school for me. We had the columbine shooting and the sandy hook shooting to worry about. Now it’s like every week there’s some kind of extreme school violence, it’s getting worse and worse and I feel for these kids and teachers who probably fear that something could happen to them, while just trying to get their education. The teachers that put their heart and soul into protecting these kids and others are so brave, and may the sweet child and teacher Rest In Peace ❤️ I’ll never understand why people would ever want to end someone else’s life.
When I went to school (I'm about to age myself here...) there were a handful of boys that used to hunt after school. They used to bring their shotguns to school (yes, you read that right). If they drove to school, they had to leave their guns in their vehicle and if they rode the bus in they had to turn their guns in to our vice principal and he would hold them in his office until school was over. Nobody ever even batted an eye and nobody ever got hurt or used their guns in a threatening way. We REALLY have to figure out what happened to our society and how we can reverse this horrible mental state we all seem to be in!
0:20: ✨ Kelly is a school teacher from St. Louis, Missouri, who has been teaching for 9 years and loves her students like her own children. 3:01: 🔫 The speaker describes how quick reactions from security officers and police prevented more casualties during a school shooting incident. 6:14: 😔 The speaker discusses the impact of a tragic event on a former student and the changes in mental health among students in general. 9:21: 💔 The speaker discusses the impact of a traumatic event on their school, leading to an increase in fights and the resurfacing of old traumas. 12:33: 😢 The speaker is concerned about the safety of children and the fear of school shootings. 15:29: 😔 The speaker discusses the trauma experienced during a shooting incident and the emotional impact it has on individuals. 18:34: ? The shooter taunted the victims and had a fantasy of being known. Recap by Tammy AI
I understand bullying is real and has been since the beginning of time, but now we have conditioned kids to call any behavior they don’t like bullying. Ridiculous. Kids can’t even cope with normal life now, much less real disappointment and real trauma.
The thing that - as a European - strikes me the most is the total lack of aftercare. Let's say a students parent dies in an accident or from cancer or somthing. The whole class gets immediate psychological support IN class, IN school for at least a week AND the other children of the school can come too, if theay feel the need to. There is individual aftercare for as long as you need it. Luckily, our country hasn't had any school shootings, but then again, it is a whole lot harder to get ( a licence ) for a gun too ...
I think that’s the difference of Europeans and Americans. I think most of us are a lot grittier and deal with more because we have freedoms that we are willing to die for. You don’t. You’ve already let EU dictate everything you do. America is complicated but most is love each other regardless of differences no matter what the media says.
@@timothyschule3831Geopolitical situations are simply beyond that reach of yours. Please don't make us actual Americans, who don't want children dying by gunfire, look poorly. The difference of individuals who want sensible regulations compared to one's who don't, is like comparing A students to students who needed to repeat a grade.
Way back when I was in 2nd grade my classmate brought a gun to school. But it was to protect him if they tried to steal the oz of weed he was told to sell by his parents to one of the staff. 😅
Fist came "Stranger Danger" then "Active Shooter"..Worked in Special-ed in school system and some of our kids CAN'T be quiet...So I was always in fear during just the drills. Because you don't know they're drills. The scariest ones were when they would have unknown practice drills, and evacuate the school but leave us because it was too hard to move our students. S.W.A.T. would come through. It was frightening for our students and ominous to even catch a glimpse of them...I mean really? Remove magnet on door to lock, put paper over our window, and hide in a corner quietly?? Glad I'm retired, but anywhere I go I sit with my back to the wall and look for possible exits or a place to dive under. And I've never been through a school shooting. (Thank goodness). Just So many years of drills.💙🌎 Thankyou for sharing with all of us.
As an educator this is one of my worst fears. Especially cause I work in a special education school specializing in behavioral disorders. We have had knives, but thankfully never a gun.... yet. We try out best to avoid it (we collect student's phones at the door, only clear backpacks allowed, uniforms, we have the ability to wand kids). It's so scary. We try our best to create meaningful bonds with our kiddos. But their home lives are so bad and traumatic. That pain spills over into schools.
Omg I love her. I see myself reflected in her and my heart is with her and her school community. I am so sorry this system failed you all. I can’t finish watching this, it hurts too much. I’m a social worker and I can’t even imagine!!! My heart is with you.
The pain in her face and her eyes in tandom w| her sounding she's about to cry within ever answer ... its 💔 I hope and pray for her school, and every other one along w| other establishments for peace, prosperity, health, wealth, and stealth. Amen. ❤
public schooling should be voluntary. no one should have to suffer through being around that many kids that hate eachother, abuse eachother, all crammed into one building. these kids wouldnt be shooting their peers if they werent forced to be somewhere they didnt want to be.
You are so amazing and intuitive. The fact that you know how you feel and how you project your emotions… your in the right lane. Lifting you up and keep moving forward…. Your inspiring…
Let me preface this with, I’m a ‘single mom’ of 2. 2 comments that REALLY stood out.....the first is “he knows all those drills”. That LITERALLY was a punch to the gut. The second, was an earlier comment about the shooters possession of a gun in his parents home, and there was “nothing they could do”. I’m from an old school mind set, if my child is acting a fool, in MY HOME, I’m sorry, but there’s NOTHING SHE can do-to stay in MY home. And, the guns would have been taken immediately, and destroyed, BY ME. Most fatherless homes, one of which I actually am, btw, create wishy washy rules about stupidity of kids. Moms can’t be dads. Dads are the better of the 2 parents to do tough love. Moms get too emotionally involved. It was REALLY difficult to ignore my inner mom, and tough love my kids. And when moms a narcissist, all bets are off. The kids destined for a nightmare in adulthood. Think about it, does ANYONE think there are any school shooters, or random murders in general that were not mentally ill? As a culture, the US breeds mental illness. We need to do better.
So you think that being a father means you have to be the disciplinarian? Is that maybe where things go wrong, because who says that that role is what they want, or that it is a natural one? It is not the 50s anymore where raising boys was about drilling this masculinity (toxic) in to them. And woman are too emotional? Lol. I think the US, and most of this world is suffering because of this idea that men are the saviors of this world.
The US does breed mental illness. We ignore it. 350,000,000 people in the US 47,600,000 adults (1 in 5) has at least some form of mental issue. 14,100,000 people have a serious mental illness (1 in 20) ONLY 30,000 beds for mental health treatment nationwide are provided for by the US federal government
I cant wait for the day my oldest 2 graduate and my youngest will be homeschooled. This is just too much and our babies deserve better. How man people knew this family or this shooter personally? How many turned a blind eye to his issues? Theres so much that compounds to create these situations.....its just heartbreaking all around.
Killing people never crossed my mind until I started middle school, thankfully before it got bad enough i was able to drop out. Schools are packed too tightly and it makes everything treat each other worse. It doesn’t help that being an adult isn’t as exciting as it used to be. Everyone has a nothing to lose mentality now because life is too hard.
What an absolutely horrifying thing to go thru. This will stay with her possibly for the rest of her days. School is one place that should always be safe
Kelly, if you see this, I hope your feeling as big a hug as I could ever send. Just being a teacher places you in a very special category, as far as I'm concerned. Be well and Godspeed as you continue to heal. Never forget that you are a superhero to me and I'm sure to many, many more.
Even though south Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world I'm just so grateful we don't have to worry about school shootings 😢 no one should worry about their kids being safe in school
My kids are adults now & I never worried about issues like this. I live in Canada 🇨🇦 & school shootings do not happen here, like they do in the US. We have our problems here too...but, nothing close to what is happening in The States. Thank goodness. Plus, our gun laws are more strict about who can purchase a gun. The licensing & paperwork are more strict. We shake our heads everytime another school shooting happens in the US. Your politicians seem more interested in protecting gun laws than protecting your kids. It's absolutely disgusting. After so many...nothing has changed. As alot of your politicians are funded by the NRA. So sad & heartbreaking 💔...that their priorities are NOT about the safety of their citizens. Something needs to change.
The problem is our politicians are more concerned with banning guns than they are about protecting children. UK is almost to the point of requiring a license to even possess a knife. The United States is the last country with the right to self defense. Ending that will have a ripple affect across the board. For one, our country would almost certainly be attacked by a foreign adversary.
@@strangefruit8776 What I hear is...your citizens are not about banning guns..they are about people, not being able to get ahold of guns that are made to kill many. Semi-automatic weapons that soldiers & policemen use. There is no reason for the average person to have these weapons. You would just obliterate an animal...if you used something like that to hunt. What would be the point? No meat to get. So, the problems will continue. If you are not part of the solution...you are part of the problem. Right?
@@juliemackenzie1978why have such a strong opinion of something you have no real understanding of? No meat to get? This is just regurgitated propaganda. I hunt wild boar with an AR15 specifically because of the high capacity and fast follow up shots. They roam in packs, and are extremely aggressive in many cases. The damage caused is far less than a typical hunting rifle in a larger caliber. I know you don't care about any of this, but it needs to be said. Canada has proven the slippery slope "fallacy" over the last 5 years. You can't even buy handguns anymore. You have officially been disarmed by your government. A major argument from the pro gun side has always been: they will start with semiautomatics and magazine restrictions, then it's all the guns. Well wouldn't you know, Canada did exactly that. So I guess these gun nuts are on to something.... We settled our stance on private gun ownership with the British empire in the late 1700s. Fortunately for you, Americans will come to your aid should your leaders decide to subjugate you, as has happened several times throughout history. It's cool though.... Trudeau seems like a genuine, and honest politician. Definitely not a power hungry narcissist..... 😅
@@juliemackenzie1978also... another incorrect statement. Police and soldiers use Automatic weapons, not semiautomatic. There is a major difference. The point of having privately owned weapons close to the capability of our police and military would be obvious to anyone who doesn't live an extremely sheltered life. The police are the armed enforcement of the state... get it? They are the ones that would be used to subjugate..... so obviously we want weapons close to equal capabilities to defend our freedom should the need arise. 2nd amendment exists for a reason, and that's the reason.
@@RustyStator You are allowed your opinion & I am allowed my opinion. Don't patronize me or be condescending. It's not necessary. The blatant reality in the US...is you have a problem with school shootings. It has become the norm for you. You can't deny it.
I can’t even watch this one today. I cannot believe I see this come up today- when Monday of this week my daughters school was on a ‘blackout’ for an active shooter! They were barricaded in the classroom in darkness…. For 3 hours until they were able to clear the school. Apparently the school is claiming ‘false’ threats but they went from lockdown to ‘blackout’ and yesterday were on lockdown again. We feel like the school district is hiding something- idk… but I almost feel like this is some kind of weird sign & I’m so scared for her to go into school…. God bless you for what you went through & thank god you’re safe…. Im still shaken by the situation that happened Monday so I can’t even imagine the horror you went through ❤🙏🏻
Do they have armed security officers at your daughter’s school? It’s actually a good sign if they’re doing drills, etc. as they’re more prepared if it actually goes down.
This was at the high school a mile down the road from my college. My college got put on lockdown at the time of the shooting as well - none of us knew what was going on until afterwords. Such a scary and heartbreaking experience for all affected by this! Thank you so much for sharing ❤️
I am fro IL. Around 10yrs ago Chicago shut down some government housing. Those people were placed in St Louis and Bloomington/Normal IL. Crime spiked in those areas. Red flag laws allow anyone to make an accusation and have their firearms taken without due process. How many have an ex who have had fight with? We need armed security with metal detectors. Protect our kids like politicians are protected. The gun violence going on in neighborhoods is gang related. The governor here in IL banned nearly 200 types of guns back in January after his re-election and yet the gangs are still killing people. St Louis is also a stand your ground state and has Castle Doctrine. People have a right to defend themselves against people who wish to do them harm. Chicago has gotten so bad that groups of people run through the city robbing 10-12 people in just minutes and many of these are caught on camera. IL just passed cashless bail. Our DA Kim Fox is woke and in many cases refuses to prosecute crimes. People should not be allowed to go out and re-offend when they have commited viole t crimes. Cook county is called Crook County for a reason.
If he had been seen for psychiatric issues over the summer I wonder if he had been prescribed medication that may or may not have factored in his break? Hope all possible contributing factors are being investigated.
This is what Harris said in his note for his reasons, “I don’t have any friends. I don’t have any family. I’ve never had a girlfriend. I’ve never had a social life. I’ve been an isolated loner my entire life,” It's goes back to what Mark says alot. A loss of love, including self love. When you hate yourself, you also often hate the world that you feel made you hate yourself, so it makes sense in your mind to end your pain by ending others lives. I feel it's only going to get worse as we continue to move further and further away from goodness, truth, compassion, self sacrifice for others, and true love. I wish we could all be like Jerry (who Mark filmed a couple of years ago) filled with joy, peace and love the way it was meant to be.
You should interview stephen williford or jack Wilson. Or that kid in ohio who stopped the mall shooter. It would be a great contrast to hear from a gun owner who stopped a mass shooting.
Lol she blames guns and video games but says her school is “perfect.” No Felicia, clearly your school isn’t perfect if it had a shooting. Most schools haven’t had a shooting, millions own guns and billions play video games. The lack of self awareness even after all that experience is dumbfounding.
This is what Harris said in his note for his reasons, “I don’t have any friends. I don’t have any family. I’ve never had a girlfriend. I’ve never had a social life. I’ve been an isolated loner my entire life..." YEAH, she did a great job helping this kid when he was a student in HER school. I wonder how many other kids she's pretending are OK.
@@laureldevine Copy and paste, copy and paste, copy and paste with the Harris notes. Enough. Keep in mind she isn't the only teacher in the school, so if this kid was showing any signs of being troubled - which he may not have been - others missed those signs as well. Not to mention his parent(s) and other people he may have known and interacted with in the community.
Indeed…just a thought…what if instead of being afraid & paranoid of firearms she got pistol, learned how to use the tool & carried it w/ her? Maybe she wouldn’t feel so helpless & victimized all the time?
This brought tears to my eyes. My prayers for strength and healing to everyone. Thanks to the teachers who live and stand in their hearts for our children. They are our future.
My son survived a school shooting, only because the guy was a poor shot. The student standing next to him became a paraplegic with severe thoracic issues. He called 911 after the shooter walked into the library and watched the police gun him down after he refused to drop the gun. I’m forever thankful for my boy’s life, but rarely bring it up because I know there are many grieving parents out there. This teacher is one special person and she’s in the perfect field because art IS healing. May she and all schools be a safe place for learning and growth. ❤
I admire your courage to tell your story, extended gratitude for all that you do, and will do. I speculate that It’s a society issue, a unit breakdown on a small and large level, a decrease in the value of human LIFE, no accountability. “Laws aren’t enforced” is kind of superficial, respectfully, if they don’t have the backing of a prosecuting attorney, even apprehending “criminals” is fruitless. It’s scary out there, St. Louis as the wild Wild West is a sad reality. 😢
I just don’t understand why these kids choose mass murder over healing their own mental illnesses or dealing with whatever trauma they have. Why harm others??
I stumbled across these interviews by chance although in reality probably guided by the omniscience of A.I. (perhaps some algorithms are written for good..?) what makes them so compelling to watch is the ability of the interviewer to say so little allowing the interviewees to express themselves with such clarity. Thank you.
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the health/PE teacher who passed is my cousin, and her loss really shook up my family. hearing the perspective of a surviving teacher answered questions she wasn’t here to tell us. thank you, mark and kelly, for this interview. i’ve shared it with other family members in hopes they can find answers too :,)
So sorry for your loss. My condolences.
What school and district was this? I grew up in North County. I don't know how, but somehow I missed this being reported. I vaguely remember an issue at McCluer, if that's the school? My condolences for your loss Mary.
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My sincerest condolences so unnecessary
My sincerest deepest condolences,sending you and your family love and healing ❤
This is my old high school. She wasn't lying when she said it broke everybody in the community. My heart breaks to this day remembering Ms. Kuczka. It sounds stupid, but she was the first PE teacher I've ever had who always made me feel comfortable as a bigger student in gym class. It's little in the moment, but those small encouragements mean so much when you're a shy child. Gym wasn't supposed to be an uncomfortable place. She simply wanted us to be healthier and more active. In those moments, the meaning behind the actions are simple, but the impact lasts forever. Central VPA was a deep community for us students. A school of siblings. I'll never forgive those same hallway walls painted with our students' art, being tainted with something so evil.
R.I.P, Ms. Kuczka. Thank you for always letting me listen to music when we did our laps. Oh, and don't forget to bring your damn gym uniforms, or that ass was going to detention 😭😭! Love and miss her so much!
So sorry for your loss 🥺
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She sounds nice. Like one of those teachers that even if she was still here you’d still remember as one of your favorites. RIP
Very difficult situation but I think people need to grow some balls and start standing up for their communities. We are disconnected from each other. All of us. Because of the internet and laziness.
“Anyone who does anything to help a child in his life is a hero to me” - Mr. Rogers
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Such a lovely and warm person, her students are lucky to have her I wish her all the best
She seems to be such a gentle soul. Hope she recovers from her traumatic experience
She is gentle n compassionate but u can tell she is also strong n a leader.
" I've learned that I am never safe ". That is just devastating. Very, very sad .
It is reality. That is a fact of life. Being "alive" means you *will die* and nothing about this trip can ever be considered "safe".
You are never safe, be your own first responder.
But arms are supposed to make you safe? Ironically.
@@donaldmack2307Really? I live in Britain, I might get hit by a bus, I'm unlikely to be a victim of gun crime. We have strict gun laws here, and haven't had a school shooting in over 30 years.
@@adambrocklehurst4211you may be privileged not to suffer gun violence. Yet you suffer from increased knife violence/crimes and drill culture. What makes that better? Our youth needs help here; that's the issue.
I live down the block from the school where it happened, and that day will live with me forever. I was running errands and got caught in traffic nearby--it was chaotic. I saw parents running from blocks away, ditching their cars in the middle of busy roads, to get to their children. Kids climbed out of second-story windows and were running to the park adjacent to the school. Strangers were rescuing kids and ushering them across the road. Police were on the scene within minutes, and because of Uvalde, acted immediately saving many many lives.
Uvalde was a disgrace. That only worse even after. That mother who hopped the fence and brought her 2 son and their classes out to safety was arrested. The judge threw out the charges but Uvalde Police threatened to bring back up an old charge from years ago that was suspended or violate her on a probation (or something similar) threatening her with that if she didn’t stop talking to the press.
Then at the funeral (this is actually recorded, a biker admits they were hired by Uvalde Police) a Motorcycle Club was there intimidating reporters.
Then to top it off, the most disgusting of all…Do you remember this rumor that was going around during the right’s attack on school boards and books that litter boxes were being put in classrooms for children who identify as cats to use as restrooms? It was even pushed by actual sitting US Congress members. That WHOLE BS thing originated from a company who donated ‘School Mass Shooting Emergency Kits’ to a whole bunch of schools. It was a bucket with bandages, gauze, tourniquets, a whole bunch of first aid supplies and I think even a radio, and they also came with a bag of kitty litter to soak up blood and guts all everything….also directions suggest if children are on lockdown in their classrooms for hours it can be poured in the emptied out bucket and used as temporary facilities. This company donated 1 for each classroom closet for hundreds of schools… aaand what does the right do? Actual sitting US congress members and senators for F sake? They take something that serious and twist it into this BS to 1. use for attack on trans people. 2. Give their dopey base another ridiculous thing to outrage about. And most of all… 3. Take the focus off of mass school shootings and non existent gun control laws threatening our children and turn the focus towards the threat of nonexistent litter boxes.
Doesn’t get much lower than that.
@@myeyeswentdeaf6213once you talked about the right like it was their fault, you lost me. I think you are lost as well. Just like people on the right and left. You think people on the right “attack trans” most of them don’t care. Stop teaching kids they can cut off their dicks. I don’t even see how that is a “right” issue. I don’t think you talk to many people because democrats don’t like that shit either. That’s a losing issue like abortion for the right. Idiots in their think tanks.
@@myeyeswentdeaf6213It's leftist kids that are shooting up these schools and murdering these children. Please take a breathe and walk away from the insanity you've been binging on.
@@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهرYa right to who? And WTH is a sock account?
@@CharleysAquaticNookmeans fake, fake, fake to remove your right to defend oneself
I've been regularly watching SWU since before COVID and can say this one is my favorite interview of all-time. This woman is amazing. I suspect this is the direction Mark is heading with SWU and all of us need that. Good lord do we need that! Thank you Mark.
I love this interview because it’s a very unique perspective with insight that we don’t usually hear. Also enjoying the evolution and different subjects we’re getting this year from SWU. Thanks Mark.
Well said. I get tired of hearing from drug addicts, pimps, hoes, gang members, etc.
Matthew! How are you? I think of you often.
@@DaniRudyyy scaring off wild turkey
I've been an art teacher for almost 10 years. Fortunately never experienced a school shooting, but definitely see a drastic change in behavior and mental health in students. Far less engagement, even with students who love art. My first 4 years before the pandemic were the best, I'm now considering either leaving the profession or moving to a smaller district. You can only take so much trauma each day and feel like you are not supported by a district that wants to ignore the problem or even blame teachers for not doing enough when we are doing too much.
I've discussed this topic with a teacher I was close to in college and am curious of your perspective as a teacher...what do you think has changed to make students like that now vs before? Is it all COVID or what else are contributing factors?
@Jooles791 definitely not covid but it was a issue before. I really believe its the lack of attention, love and balance in their home life.
99.99% of teachers and students will never be in a school shooting this is total fear mongering
@@Jooles791I work at a title 1 school (over half of the students are on free reduced lunch) lots of families lost jobs during the pandemic which caused trauma, poverty. Also, students developed tech addiction to phones, games and have had a hard time to adjust back to the classroom. I've found there's a theme of "what's the point of school" too. Many just want to start working and make money without realizing education is one of the major factors in getting well paying, enjoyable careers. Overall, I've had more incidents of rage, and ignoring teachers.
@@kellymerrill5294 that all makes sense ...thank you for sharing and for what you do for those kids !!
Oh Kelly, you’re such a beautiful human. The way you talk about your students and your art room makes me wish you were my teacher growing up. I’m so sorry you all went through that and I hope you all heal in time.
Those kids will never forget you. Thank you for the person you are as there’s way too many shit ones out there. X
You were born to be a teacher. Bless you and all your are in my prayers
You can tell this will haunt her forever. I hope you find some healing Kelly. You are so strong for giving this interview!
She should find another line of work - she's hurting the students. She's supposed to be the adult in the room - if it's not clear to you that she's not the adult in the room, then you need to watch this again.
Damn right it will.
@@laureldevine ok 👍
Teaching artist sister: the holy, creative space you customized lives within you, the room you built is just the physical manifestation of something you were born with, and even though that room has been corrupted, that creative space within is always safe and pure. I’m so glad you’re alive and that you told this story.
There’s a reason why, drug rehabs, mental health treatment centers, trauma therapy, etc. ALL have an art therapy class or day.
NO MATTER WHAT, that room will ALWAYS be a place for pure and true art. What happened in that room was terrible, but NO MATTER how terrible, it’s got nothing on art, the healing power art has. Art has some kinda power that can help people cope, bounce back, etc. And if it’s one thing I’ve noticed is (and this is NOT me saying ‘LoOk At ThE bRiGhT sIdE’ or some BS like that), I’ve noticed in my own screwed up life is some of the best art, my own and others, has come from trauma. Some of the best artists I’ve ever seen were in prison. I’ve come up with some of my best concepts trying to process my trauma or emotions through art. That scumbag may have killed people in that room but he could never kill the purpose of that room…. It should stay as the art room. I hop it did.
what room r u talking about
Kelly, me and everyone in STL love you and your dedication and passion for teaching..please stay strong and keep doing what your doing..if there were more teachers like you the world would be a better place! Peace and Love to you!!
What a smart woman. I'm 5:30 in and your psych analysis of the shooter and his past sound spot on. You have a beautiful heart and really understand things. Thank you for being a caring and loving teacher. I wish I had you growing up.
The art teachers were always the coolest teachers!!! I can't draw a bucket of water from a well, but i would find myself hanging out in the art room all the time!!!
Totally agree,Gram.
I hope all is well, bro🤟
@@wesleyAlan9179 GM brother Wes, have a great day my friend!!!!!!!
What up Grams. Art teachers ARE awesome. I’m a sick artist and I mean I am REALLY good, but I failed every art class I’ve ever had because I wouldn’t draw what I was told. It was so weird to me, because the teachers would say how they knew what a great artist I was but would say just because you know this stuff already doesn’t mean you don’t have to do the class curriculum. ….I was doing wildstyles on buildings with characters and backgrounds and everything, I was NOT gonna sit there in class and draw a square and a circle for a half hour. 😂
@wesleyalan9179 Wat up Wes! Enjoy the day brother.
@@myeyeswentdeaf6213 nice brother, good to see you My friend! I was thinking about you, glad you're still hangin in there!!!!!!
I’m born and raised in Kansas City. Love this lady. Love her dedication to her students. Xoxo
Im one of the people that responded to the school shooting in Oxford, MI. No amount of train g will ever properly prepare you for that. It was one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. No child should ever have to worry about being safe at school.
Oh I don't know. What would have WORKED was the cops to apprehend the guy FIRST after the mother reported it but they did NOTHING.
God bless you, brave protector. You are an earth angel.
@@huitrecouturethe mother reported it? Thats not what happened at all.
I live 20 minutes from Oxford and my coworkers kids went there.. This is something absolutely no one expected there. My heart goes out to you ❤
From the first frame of this video you could see the pain in her face. Even when she smiles. She is a blessing to this world, very kind and soft. Her and I must be around the same age because columbine happened when I was in middle school but I too NEVER felt the fear I do nowadays sending my daughter to school. My daughter is just in 2nd grade but I worry about the years to come all the time. .........Thank you for doing this interview
I have one close friend and one family member who both left the teaching profession (that they LOVED) because the emotional/mental health of the kids has declined so far that they were finding it hard to actually have time to TEACH their subject (an English teacher and a chorus teacher) due to all the emotional issues, behavioral issues and psychiatric problems among the students (and dare I say even the teachers...). So sad what we've become over the last decade.
@@cowmath77 Oh wow, that's horrible!
My grandparents on my dads side had middle school education, worked their ass off, owned their own farm on 300+ acres, and raised 4 kids.
My graparents on my moms side had high school education, raised 4 kids and put them all through university, and owned their own home just by working.
My parents are very skilled and well educated, and managed to raise my brother and I in our small house but with very little extra time after work for raising us or having their own life.
Now Im older than my parents were when I was born, much older than my grandparents were when they had all 4, and what do I have? College education and a great work ethic, busting my ass at 15 different jobs and not one has ever paid a living wage. I live in a very small apartment, drive a car that can't be inspected again, no savings or retirement plan, no kids, no hobbies (no money or room), no life to speak of no matter how hard I work.
The kids that are coming up now have even more education and understanding of whats going on, and know that after school, nothing awaits most of them no matter how hard they work. They have easy access to weapons. What more do you need to know?
If the goal of society is to ruin families and maintain slaves that work 60 hours a week just to feed themselves, don't arm them.
This.
The American Dream!
Beautifully written summary of our shared nightmare. PS I don’t know you but you seem like a smart, compassionate, and thoughtful person. I care about you and hope you’ll be ok, that you’ll find joy here and there, irregardless.
There is nothing left to Live for anymore, is there? If youre older than your own parents and even you couldn't do It. How the fuck are we supposed to fix this hell?
@higgaroc Thank you. It really means a lot to me, and these days, very little does.
If it were just me, I would blame myself, but I see this trend in most of the hundreds of young people I used to know. I'm just tired of people putting it on themselves as if nothing has changed between the generations when we all know it has. We pretend to have the same chances and expect to be masters of our own destiny, but after you run into the wall over and over and can't physically do more, you should realize it's just luck, and the odds get longer every year.
I have gotten used to austerity and starvation, I don't even get hungry anymore, but I won't do that to my child.
Eventually, the bastards doing this will either stop, or our society will die with them.
I survived a school shooting as well, I was in the cafeteria first day of sophomore year and a class mate of mine brought in a shotgun during lunch. He shot a special needs kid and then an unarmed guidance counselor (mr. Wasmer) stepped in and tackled the shooter(bobby gladden). Gladden let off one more round through the ceiling and more teachers stepped in before the cops arrived. Thank god for mr wasmer because he came with 60 rounds. In interrogation he admitted to attempting to kill 59 people and then end himself just to "show how fucked up this world is". His own words. He was always strange freshman year. He was in my English class. Perry Hall school shooting in 2011
I remember watching a thing about that. Thank you for sharing and I'm glad you're here today
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I remember hearing about that one, Baltimore I believe right. That’s what stuck out to me. I’m from Brooklyn NY. In all my I don’t think NYC has ever had a school shooting. (My definition being mass shooting). Back in the early 90’s a kid was shot in the neck on the first day of school in the hallway, but that such a rare occurrence. It happened because some kid was show another kid his gun by his locker and it went off, hit another kids down the hall. Then last year a couple kids (I think this was a gang thing) had an argument in school an one wait outside and chased him like 2 or 3 blocks and the news reported it as a school shooting. Your school shooting stuck out to me because Baltimore!? Inner city school shootings where the intent is just high body count of random victims is extremely rare.
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misfire is not considered a school shooting goofy 😂😂
@@jr224 myeyeswentdeaf's point was NYC has never had a school shooting. 1. The misfire and 2. the possibly gang-related chasing of another kid were just examples of the only things he could remember that remotely represented anything like a school shooting. He was NOT saying the misfire was a school shooting. You might want to read again a little more carefully. (eyes - I hope you don't mind me speaking on your behalf.)
@@karenfryberger4260 nah your good i read it wrong mybad lol
My nephew is a survivor of the Parkland shooting. It’s unreal how many school shootings there have been since. He’s obviously still traumatized, especially on Valentines Day which is the anniversary of the shooting. My heart goes out to her and all the victims and survivors of school shootings. 😢😢
Bless you fellow St. Louis teacher! This event hit me harder than any other shooting that has happened in my 26 years, since it happened in my hometown. It was one of many reasons I retired 2 years early….
Yes, a very dear friend and cousin of mine is now, thank God a retired teacher. When school shootings started happening regularly I worried about her safety almost daily. I was so happy when she retired. It's awful to think that her retirement meant that she made it out alive. No students or teachers or shoppers or movie goers or church goers should have to be afraid of being shot when we are supposedly not living in a war zone.
Of course it will affect you more if it happens in your hometown
As a mother this makes me so sad. We send our kids to school to learn and experience independence and grow as individuals. School is supposed to be a safe place. We as a nation have to do better for our kids, for our teachers, for everyone. Things need to change. This is heartbreaking and scary.
You live in a fantasy world where your children are victim to the reality you refuse to acknowledge. And what is a good citizen? Simply one who never says, does or thinks anything that is unusual. Schools are maintained in order to bring this uniformity up to the highest possible point. A school is a hopper into which children are heaved while they are still young and tender; therein they are pressed into certain standard shapes and covered from head to heels with official rubber-stamps. Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination. Our schools and colleges are turning out people who cannot feel fulfilled unless they are telling other people what to do.
"Education should aim at destroying free will, so that after pupils are thus schooled, they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished." - Johann Gottlieb Fichte
@@AngryHateMusic you're certainly right about that. Well said. We're going to homeschool our son when he's old enough. I also bought him a small .22 rifle. I'm gonna teach him how to shoot as soon as he can hold it properly. (Gotta potty train him first)
@@AngryHateMusicyou’re describing parochial education, not public education
@@davee7962 To have a religion, there must be some kind of Bible or Torah, and the Government Religion has one - the US Constitution - along with supporting documents (call them Sunnah or Talmud) such as the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, and state constitutions. Like the Bible, they are held in reverence, and simultaneously ignored in deed.
The word Law sounds better than force. Social contract sounds better than enforced obedience. Taxation sounds better than theft. Central banking sounds better than counterfeiting. Corporation sounds better than legal immunity. Arrest sounds better than kidnapping. National debt sounds better than selling off the unborn. Democracy sounds better than mob rule. Public school sounds better than forced indoctrination.
"So the world got compulsion schooling at the end of a state bayonet for the first time in human history; modern forced schooling started in Prussia in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schools could deliver: - Obedient soldiers to the army; - Obedient workers to the mines; - Well subordinated civil servants to government; - Well subordinated clerks to industry - Citizens who thought alike about major issues." - John Taylor Gatto (New York State Teacher of the year.)
I am a teacher and my school in Texas carries
Decades ago, I remember being so frustrated with all the gun violence and thinking, "What's it going to take to change the laws, kids getting murdered in classrooms?" thinking it would never get to that point before drastic measures and laws would happen.
Unbelievable that is the reality now and there still is such opposition to common sense laws.
How will laws stop this? Give me a factual answer and I'll agree with you.
Exactly how would taking my gun away stop this---please explain.
@@redbeardedberserkerlook at the countries that do enforce this and there is your answer
@@jackselle4607do you not understand that there are literally thousands of gun laws in the USA already that don’t prevent shootings and also there are more guns in the USA than people. Create laws isn’t going to make it stop. If it does it will be in like 200 years
Such a beautiful human being inside and out. I'm glad she's still here to offer her beauty to the world. This world has become ugly but there is still beauty to be held!
It isn’t becoming ugly, it’s always been ugly (in part)…it’s just at the forefront now given the light that can be shined on the mental health crisis, etc. 🤙
Ok but how could she possibly know if the shooter was bullied at school? She said it's a big school how could they possibly know what's going on? I was bullied at school, I had a knive on my throat during break and no teacher ever found out. So to say he wasn't bullied or they'd know, seems so naive and ignorant even.
a school with 400 students is tiny
Teachers know. Teachers know who’s being bullied. They may not know exactly where it’s happening or when. They don’t know every instance that’s happening, like what happened to you (btw, sry you had to deal with that), but they know who’s being bullied.
And for the same reason you didn’t tell on them who pulled a knife on you, is the same reason the teachers who knew you were being bullied didn’t say nothing, is the same reason prison guards who see an inmate getting punked…, they know just like you knew, you telling an authority figure, or even them seeing an authority figure looking out for you on their own, will just make things sooo much worse for you.
There’s ONLY ONE way to handle bullies. That’s why I’m against these ‘Zero Tolerance’ for fighting policies in schools, because these teachers and school staff know who’s who and they know who was fighting to stand up for themselves. Sad thing about ‘Zero Tolerance’ policy is it’s usually the kid that’s being bullied that’s always the one who gets caught starting the fight, because they’re not the type experienced in knowing what to look for and when and how to not get caught. They just know today’s the day I’m gonna stand up to my bully and they end up pummeling him in the middle of math class or something. But sad part is, then, because of ‘Zero Tolerance’, that kid who gets bullied, for whatever reason (like maybe he’s weak or skinny and nerdy or whatever), he gets expelled, but NOW he gets sent to the bad school..the school for violent and troubled youth. The kinda place his bullies wouldn’t last a day. Ain’t that some sh**!?
400 9 thru 12 is tinyyyy
This is terrifying, I’m a teacher aide in Australia and can’t imagine this life for our school community
You dont have to.
It's very specific to America, and a usual demographic is typically involved.
The NRA is pushing into Australia’s political right.
They came pretty close recently, only a few years ago, but you Australians stopped em. They tried loosing the gun laws there, but they tried to go too far and it sparked outrage.
@beanerbeanabeans5018 there are still guns, they are just well regulated.
@@MrLoobuexactly, I’m very lucky I don’t
It is so mind-boggling to me that we as a country don't find these (now common) situations so viscerally disturbing that we make major changes like other countries have. Between gun violence and health care, I feel so frustrated living here.
should be required everyone to be armed if you think no guns is the answer your a retard👍
Looking in from outside of the US is just as frustrating. I think a lot of people have just gotten so accustomed to it all that it’s their new normal. But from an outsiders perspective it’s horrifying to watch
@@mariek3460 I agree, we are all so desensitized to it. But that in itself is so disturbing to me.
@Broskisnowski I think that's just you, my dude.
Changes don’t start at the top and trickle down. We need to be bold in our hearts and not wait for the government or society to do the right thing and keep the people in their best interests. Just look at how many among us scoff at others for just wanting to raise children. There’s a sinister idea pervading sick society that the fewer humans living, the better. School shootings are just one manifestation of that nihilism. I am homeschooling my children and live in a county where almost one third of the children are homeschooled and the percentage is rising. I played in a band with some of the Columbine survivors and learned to avoid crowds/herding (including herd mentality) as much as possible.
I am teacher and I resent putting my tiny students through lock down drills and intruder drills. My heart hurts.
I am a teacher and I have this fear every single day that this will happen when I go to work. Thanks for this story Mark and for sharing Kelly. Teachers that care about strangers kids are heroes.
not that serious keep
living in fear everyday and the last bit of hair you got left will vanish😂😂😂
Arm yourself
Learn how to use a gun. Arm teachers that want to be armed. A deranged shooter will think twice when they are facing the end of a gun.
You're more likely to get shot in your home or on the way to school.
@@ZZ_The_Boxing_Cat oh, yeah, especially if they have an AR-15 and body armor. Get real.
You could see the emotions just under the surface as soon as this lady started speaking.
I cannot imagine the terror she must have felt. Teaching should not be a high risk occupation.
My kids would have been honoured to have been taught by this lovely caring lady.
Kelly, I'm so sorry you & your students & other teachers suffered this tragedy....I truly am! You are Awesome! 💖I wish you so much strength & Peace in your soul - that you should find a way to make that happen for yourself. Cuz I can tell that you give what Peace & Strength you do have to all of those around you!! Thank you for sharing...Be Well Beautiful !!
Yeah a fellow St. Louisian. Unfortunately, discussing a horrible day. My heart goes out to you and your school. May God be with you and comfort your sorrows.
17:25 the teacher mask sort of slips, she wants to claim he wasn’t bullied. So many kids are bullied In school. This isn’t to justify the shooters actions but I’m shocked to see a teacher blow off that bullying could have been a factor
She said bullying isn’t an issue at her school, don’t buy that for a second
She wanted to get on to spew her anti-gun message, nothing more.
She literally said she is not anti gun.
@@DFredwell I was talking about bullying
Wow, as a mother to a 9 year old child this is one of my worst fears. Thank you for sharing your story. 🙏❤️
All the trauma my kids have endured has come from within the walls of the schools. Schools are far from being a safe space for most kids.
EXACTLY. Quite frankly the way this teacher behaves (like a scared little baby) would have traumatized ME as a young student. Good God, she's supposed to be the kids protector and leader??? Uggggh!
@@laureldevineThe irony of your comment 🤦🏻♀️
@@laureldevine Sounds like YOU are the scared little baby. One can only wonder how you would have behaved under the circumstances. This teacher told of her experience with grace, love and thoughtfulness. You must be projecting, because there is not one iota of "scared little baby" to be found in her. In other words, @thematriarchy2075 is spot on.
@@karenfryberger4260 Where was she when this kid was being neglected and ignored? A little late, don't you think?
Wow! Kelly is so impressive! She is insightful, empathetic, and wise. She has a very balanced point of view from understanding the needs of her students to the harsh reality of teaching, nurturing, and protecting them. 🏆
Low key she makes a lot of assumptions about his life for not being her student and him lying to school counselors and stuff
She says it’s a small school and everyone knows everyone then later on says the school is too big to do a drill fast
My community had a school shooting in 2012, i still think about it and cry. A close friends brother passed in the shooting. Our whole community changed that day, unimaginable pain and terror. My heart goes out to her and their whole community, sending love and healing ❤
way to make a school shooting you werent at and had no family at about you.
It starts in the home . I had a hard childhood and made choices based off of the treatment or lack there of at home. I chose to run away I chose to join a gang I chose to commit crimes but I did this because of what I saw at home. I look at my son and where he is, in his life and it's good, Fantastic!!! And even though his mother and I have had our issues he's always had mom and dad at home when he needed us . He understands what love and compassion are, he also understands that life is hard and it can get harder if you make it. He graduated from highschool he now has a full time job and he's 18 years old. He also understands a lot of the nuance things we learn in life the "moral compass" . I attribute it all to his upbringing when I was his age I was serving 6 years for armed robbery I was doing drugs ,dealing drugs, just wild ! And I did not have the same upbringing that my son has had. Mostly just my mom. My dad was dead so a lot of stepfather shit was happening then physical abuse and the feeling that I was in the way of my mother's life and what she wanted to do.
I couldn't agree more. You become a product of your environment. We've all done stupid things throughout life. It comes down to how you recover from it. You've seen the negative first hand and didn't want that for your son so you made the necessary decisions to break the cycle. You did the right things for your son to become a productive young man. It sounds like you have done a great job. You should be proud
She said the exact thing I’ve always thought. Just how effective ARE active shooter drills when the shooter is a current or former student who knows the layout and also the drills?
As a HS teacher I feel her. We can’t help but love our students, even the difficult ones. We see their struggles and their pain and wish we could save them all. The best job in the world.
I love waking up and seeing Mark had uploaded a new amazing video . Thank you
I live about 15 minutes away from Chardon, OH, (white, upper class, suburb) where in 2012, a student shot 6 people, killing 3. Within a year, people pretending like it never happened. I think they were afraid of their property value going down. Great interview Kelly’ I’d bet your students love you!
Wow I’m so proud of her for being able to tell her story I can’t imagine what that was like. I’m a first time mom and sometimes think about homeschooling my son cuz this world is too scary
I think she nailed it. All schools should be on alert every step of the way. It would be horribly life changing to go through this. I feel for every person going through through a school shooting.
We are a traumatized society. This is verysad and reinforces all the fears I have for my children everyday when I send them off to school.
I almost died in a fire. I can definitely relate to the auditory triggers. I’ve been in 2 places since where the fire alarm went off and I was the first one out both times. The smells and sounds are the strongest part of ptsd
Sorry to hear that, but glad you made it out alive…therapy, etc. tends to help at least somewhat but I can only empathize as I’ve never been through an ordeal like that myself, God bless ☦️🤙
@@John_Connor556 God was with me I had enough strength to open the door with both hands while the backdraft was trying to keep me in.
@@darrensanimalsreptilesfish30 Amen ☦️🙏🏽
I have an 18 year old nephew and the fact him and his friends can walk in anywhere and buy a gun scares the 💩 out of me!
Stop being a homo
i hope they do! it scares you they can buy a tool?
@@jr224yes a tool for killing things. Guns are made for that and thats why its stupid to call them just tools.
@@Time_flies_fast99% of firearms live in a box or a safe and hardly see usage. The US has more firearms than people. Be grateful you’re as safe as you are.
If you don’t enjoy it here, maybe try China 🇨🇳
They have very strict gun laws
@@Time_flies_fast so tools shoot themselfs at people? your retarded it’s the person who is behind the gun that kills 🤡 you all sound same and say same shit so try again😂😂🇺🇸
She seems like such a sweet teacher. This world is breaking my heart, I remember having lock downs but they were false alarms, and that was in 2012-2017 time frame between middle school and high school for me. We had the columbine shooting and the sandy hook shooting to worry about. Now it’s like every week there’s some kind of extreme school violence, it’s getting worse and worse and I feel for these kids and teachers who probably fear that something could happen to them, while just trying to get their education. The teachers that put their heart and soul into protecting these kids and others are so brave, and may the sweet child and teacher Rest In Peace ❤️ I’ll never understand why people would ever want to end someone else’s life.
When I went to school (I'm about to age myself here...) there were a handful of boys that used to hunt after school. They used to bring their shotguns to school (yes, you read that right). If they drove to school, they had to leave their guns in their vehicle and if they rode the bus in they had to turn their guns in to our vice principal and he would hold them in his office until school was over. Nobody ever even batted an eye and nobody ever got hurt or used their guns in a threatening way. We REALLY have to figure out what happened to our society and how we can reverse this horrible mental state we all seem to be in!
She's a strong woman. To survive a school shooting and then to be able to go back to a school and teach.
0:20: ✨ Kelly is a school teacher from St. Louis, Missouri, who has been teaching for 9 years and loves her students like her own children.
3:01: 🔫 The speaker describes how quick reactions from security officers and police prevented more casualties during a school shooting incident.
6:14: 😔 The speaker discusses the impact of a tragic event on a former student and the changes in mental health among students in general.
9:21: 💔 The speaker discusses the impact of a traumatic event on their school, leading to an increase in fights and the resurfacing of old traumas.
12:33: 😢 The speaker is concerned about the safety of children and the fear of school shootings.
15:29: 😔 The speaker discusses the trauma experienced during a shooting incident and the emotional impact it has on individuals.
18:34: ? The shooter taunted the victims and had a fantasy of being known.
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Fuck off with the emojis lmao
She is WOKE and the shooter was black
Honestly, tammy Ai has been super helpful to me!
Why...
The preciousness of life. Thanks for sharing your story and to those who shared beautiful memories of those who passed in the comments.
I understand bullying is real and has been since the beginning of time, but now we have conditioned kids to call any behavior they don’t like bullying. Ridiculous. Kids can’t even cope with normal life now, much less real disappointment and real trauma.
The thing that - as a European - strikes me the most is the total lack of aftercare. Let's say a students parent dies in an accident or from cancer or somthing. The whole class gets immediate psychological support IN class, IN school for at least a week AND the other children of the school can come too, if theay feel the need to. There is individual aftercare for as long as you need it. Luckily, our country hasn't had any school shootings, but then again, it is a whole lot harder to get ( a licence ) for a gun too ...
I think that’s the difference of Europeans and Americans. I think most of us are a lot grittier and deal with more because we have freedoms that we are willing to die for. You don’t. You’ve already let EU dictate everything you do. America is complicated but most is love each other regardless of differences no matter what the media says.
@@timothyschule3831Geopolitical situations are simply beyond that reach of yours. Please don't make us actual Americans, who don't want children dying by gunfire, look poorly. The difference of individuals who want sensible regulations compared to one's who don't, is like comparing A students to students who needed to repeat a grade.
I remember this well. I work in the same school district. It was very traumatic for the community. Stay strong!
I’m a kindergarten teacher and this is my biggest fear going to work every single day. Thank you for sharing your story.
I'm really sorry for you. I can't imagine what its like living in a country with guns so freely available.
Way back when I was in 2nd grade my classmate brought a gun to school. But it was to protect him if they tried to steal the oz of weed he was told to sell by his parents to one of the staff. 😅
This is heartbreaking. She is very brave to share her story.
Fist came "Stranger Danger" then "Active Shooter"..Worked in Special-ed in school system and some of our kids CAN'T be quiet...So I was always in fear during just the drills. Because you don't know they're drills. The scariest ones were when they would have unknown practice drills, and evacuate the school but leave us because it was too hard to move our students. S.W.A.T. would come through. It was frightening for our students and ominous to even catch a glimpse of them...I mean really? Remove magnet on door to lock, put paper over our window, and hide in a corner quietly?? Glad I'm retired, but anywhere I go I sit with my back to the wall and look for possible exits or a place to dive under. And I've never been through a school shooting. (Thank goodness). Just So many years of drills.💙🌎
Thankyou for sharing with all of us.
They're not preparing anyone for anything. They're scaring them so they become subservient.
Being a teacher is very rewarding, I love it. I too love them like my own. Wish her love and light.
This lady has such grace and courage. Thank you for educating us in this area. I just cannot imagine your stress. God bless you.
As an educator this is one of my worst fears. Especially cause I work in a special education school specializing in behavioral disorders. We have had knives, but thankfully never a gun.... yet. We try out best to avoid it (we collect student's phones at the door, only clear backpacks allowed, uniforms, we have the ability to wand kids). It's so scary. We try our best to create meaningful bonds with our kiddos. But their home lives are so bad and traumatic. That pain spills over into schools.
This is so💔, and it’s happening everywhere.
Omg I love her. I see myself reflected in her and my heart is with her and her school community. I am so sorry this system failed you all. I can’t finish watching this, it hurts too much. I’m a social worker and I can’t even imagine!!! My heart is with you.
The pain in her face and her eyes in tandom w| her sounding she's about to cry within ever answer ... its 💔
I hope and pray for her school, and every other one along w| other establishments for peace, prosperity, health, wealth, and stealth. Amen. ❤
This poor woman sounds so broken. You can hear it in her voice. I hope she finds peace.
public schooling should be voluntary. no one should have to suffer through being around that many kids that hate eachother, abuse eachother, all crammed into one building. these kids wouldnt be shooting their peers if they werent forced to be somewhere they didnt want to be.
100%
You are so amazing and intuitive. The fact that you know how you feel and how you project your emotions… your in the right lane. Lifting you up and keep moving forward…. Your inspiring…
Let me preface this with, I’m a ‘single mom’ of 2. 2 comments that REALLY stood out.....the first is “he knows all those drills”. That LITERALLY was a punch to the gut. The second, was an earlier comment about the shooters possession of a gun in his parents home, and there was “nothing they could do”. I’m from an old school mind set, if my child is acting a fool, in MY HOME, I’m sorry, but there’s NOTHING SHE can do-to stay in MY home. And, the guns would have been taken immediately, and destroyed, BY ME. Most fatherless homes, one of which I actually am, btw, create wishy washy rules about stupidity of kids. Moms can’t be dads. Dads are the better of the 2 parents to do tough love. Moms get too emotionally involved. It was REALLY difficult to ignore my inner mom, and tough love my kids. And when moms a narcissist, all bets are off. The kids destined for a nightmare in adulthood. Think about it, does ANYONE think there are any school shooters, or random murders in general that were not mentally ill? As a culture, the US breeds mental illness. We need to do better.
So you think that being a father means you have to be the disciplinarian? Is that maybe where things go wrong, because who says that that role is what they want, or that it is a natural one? It is not the 50s anymore where raising boys was about drilling this masculinity (toxic) in to them. And woman are too emotional? Lol. I think the US, and most of this world is suffering because of this idea that men are the saviors of this world.
Single moms raise school shooters. That's a fact
The US does breed mental illness. We ignore it.
350,000,000 people in the US
47,600,000 adults (1 in 5) has at least some form of mental issue.
14,100,000 people have a serious mental illness (1 in 20)
ONLY 30,000 beds for mental health treatment nationwide are provided for by the US federal government
I cant wait for the day my oldest 2 graduate and my youngest will be homeschooled. This is just too much and our babies deserve better. How man people knew this family or this shooter personally? How many turned a blind eye to his issues? Theres so much that compounds to create these situations.....its just heartbreaking all around.
Killing people never crossed my mind until I started middle school, thankfully before it got bad enough i was able to drop out.
Schools are packed too tightly and it makes everything treat each other worse.
It doesn’t help that being an adult isn’t as exciting as it used to be.
Everyone has a nothing to lose mentality now because life is too hard.
thank you Kelly for taking care of the kids, and yourself. Thank you Mark for bringing Kelly to us. People need to hear these stories of real life.
What an absolutely horrifying thing to go thru. This will stay with her possibly for the rest of her days. School is one place that should always be safe
Kelly, if you see this, I hope your feeling as big a hug as I could ever send. Just being a teacher places you in a very special category, as far as I'm concerned. Be well and Godspeed as you continue to heal. Never forget that you are a superhero to me and I'm sure to many, many more.
Even though south Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world I'm just so grateful we don't have to worry about school shootings 😢 no one should worry about their kids being safe in school
Lmao ppl got shot in the street daily though & SA is a 3rd world country on the cusp of collapse..
you can see how painful reliving that day is, but her strength also shines through. i wish her all the healing, happiness, and peace in the world ❤️
"I've learned that I am never safe" 💔
Yes. That's life. You're never safe.
the good thing is that at least you're are aware that you're never safe
Correct, but she doesn’t have to live in fear & paranoia…get a pistol, learn how to use it & carry it 😏
It amazes me the compassion she even has for the shooter. Shes a very very good person, a good teacher, and she'll pass that on.
My kids are adults now & I never worried about issues like this. I live in Canada 🇨🇦 & school shootings do not happen here, like they do in the US. We have our problems here too...but, nothing close to what is happening in The States. Thank goodness. Plus, our gun laws are more strict about who can purchase a gun. The licensing & paperwork are more strict. We shake our heads everytime another school shooting happens in the US. Your politicians seem more interested in protecting gun laws than protecting your kids. It's absolutely disgusting. After so many...nothing has changed. As alot of your politicians are funded by the NRA. So sad & heartbreaking 💔...that their priorities are NOT about the safety of their citizens. Something needs to change.
The problem is our politicians are more concerned with banning guns than they are about protecting children. UK is almost to the point of requiring a license to even possess a knife. The United States is the last country with the right to self defense. Ending that will have a ripple affect across the board. For one, our country would almost certainly be attacked by a foreign adversary.
@@strangefruit8776 What I hear is...your citizens are not about banning guns..they are about people, not being able to get ahold of guns that are made to kill many. Semi-automatic weapons that soldiers & policemen use. There is no reason for the average person to have these weapons. You would just obliterate an animal...if you used something like that to hunt. What would be the point? No meat to get. So, the problems will continue. If you are not part of the solution...you are part of the problem. Right?
@@juliemackenzie1978why have such a strong opinion of something you have no real understanding of? No meat to get? This is just regurgitated propaganda. I hunt wild boar with an AR15 specifically because of the high capacity and fast follow up shots. They roam in packs, and are extremely aggressive in many cases. The damage caused is far less than a typical hunting rifle in a larger caliber.
I know you don't care about any of this, but it needs to be said. Canada has proven the slippery slope "fallacy" over the last 5 years. You can't even buy handguns anymore. You have officially been disarmed by your government.
A major argument from the pro gun side has always been: they will start with semiautomatics and magazine restrictions, then it's all the guns. Well wouldn't you know, Canada did exactly that. So I guess these gun nuts are on to something.... We settled our stance on private gun ownership with the British empire in the late 1700s.
Fortunately for you, Americans will come to your aid should your leaders decide to subjugate you, as has happened several times throughout history. It's cool though.... Trudeau seems like a genuine, and honest politician. Definitely not a power hungry narcissist..... 😅
@@juliemackenzie1978also... another incorrect statement. Police and soldiers use Automatic weapons, not semiautomatic. There is a major difference. The point of having privately owned weapons close to the capability of our police and military would be obvious to anyone who doesn't live an extremely sheltered life. The police are the armed enforcement of the state... get it? They are the ones that would be used to subjugate..... so obviously we want weapons close to equal capabilities to defend our freedom should the need arise. 2nd amendment exists for a reason, and that's the reason.
@@RustyStator You are allowed your opinion & I am allowed my opinion. Don't patronize me or be condescending. It's not necessary. The blatant reality in the US...is you have a problem with school shootings. It has become the norm for you. You can't deny it.
I can’t even watch this one today. I cannot believe I see this come up today- when Monday of this week my daughters school was on a ‘blackout’ for an active shooter! They were barricaded in the classroom in darkness…. For 3 hours until they were able to clear the school. Apparently the school is claiming ‘false’ threats but they went from lockdown to ‘blackout’ and yesterday were on lockdown again. We feel like the school district is hiding something- idk… but I almost feel like this is some kind of weird sign & I’m so scared for her to go into school…. God bless you for what you went through & thank god you’re safe…. Im still shaken by the situation that happened Monday so I can’t even imagine the horror you went through ❤🙏🏻
That’s so sad to hear. I hope your daughter is safe, nobody should feel scared to send their child to school ❤
Do they have armed security officers at your daughter’s school? It’s actually a good sign if they’re doing drills, etc. as they’re more prepared if it actually goes down.
Art teachers should be protected like priceless treasure, because that's what they are. Priceless treasure!
& kids…
What an amazing pure human… my heart breaks for her and all victims and their families… i hope they one day find peace
Brave soul! Stop the madness!
This was at the high school a mile down the road from my college. My college got put on lockdown at the time of the shooting as well - none of us knew what was going on until afterwords. Such a scary and heartbreaking experience for all affected by this! Thank you so much for sharing ❤️
I am fro IL. Around 10yrs ago Chicago shut down some government housing. Those people were placed in St Louis and Bloomington/Normal IL. Crime spiked in those areas. Red flag laws allow anyone to make an accusation and have their firearms taken without due process. How many have an ex who have had fight with? We need armed security with metal detectors. Protect our kids like politicians are protected. The gun violence going on in neighborhoods is gang related. The governor here in IL banned nearly 200 types of guns back in January after his re-election and yet the gangs are still killing people. St Louis is also a stand your ground state and has Castle Doctrine. People have a right to defend themselves against people who wish to do them harm. Chicago has gotten so bad that groups of people run through the city robbing 10-12 people in just minutes and many of these are caught on camera. IL just passed cashless bail. Our DA Kim Fox is woke and in many cases refuses to prosecute crimes. People should not be allowed to go out and re-offend when they have commited viole t crimes. Cook county is called Crook County for a reason.
If he had been seen for psychiatric issues over the summer I wonder if he had been prescribed medication that may or may not have factored in his break? Hope all possible contributing factors are being investigated.
This is what Harris said in his note for his reasons, “I don’t have any friends. I don’t have any family. I’ve never had a girlfriend. I’ve never had a social life. I’ve been an isolated loner my entire life,”
It's goes back to what Mark says alot. A loss of love, including self love. When you hate yourself, you also often hate the world that you feel made you hate yourself, so it makes sense in your mind to end your pain by ending others lives.
I feel it's only going to get worse as we continue to move further and further away from goodness, truth, compassion, self sacrifice for others, and true love.
I wish we could all be like Jerry (who Mark filmed a couple of years ago) filled with joy, peace and love the way it was meant to be.
You should interview stephen williford or jack Wilson. Or that kid in ohio who stopped the mall shooter.
It would be a great contrast to hear from a gun owner who stopped a mass shooting.
I love your mind and courage, Kelly! Thank you for sharing your perspective.
Lol she blames guns and video games but says her school is “perfect.” No Felicia, clearly your school isn’t perfect if it had a shooting. Most schools haven’t had a shooting, millions own guns and billions play video games. The lack of self awareness even after all that experience is dumbfounding.
This is what Harris said in his note for his reasons, “I don’t have any friends. I don’t have any family. I’ve never had a girlfriend. I’ve never had a social life. I’ve been an isolated loner my entire life..."
YEAH, she did a great job helping this kid when he was a student in HER school. I wonder how many other kids she's pretending are OK.
@@laureldevine Copy and paste, copy and paste, copy and paste with the Harris notes. Enough. Keep in mind she isn't the only teacher in the school, so if this kid was showing any signs of being troubled - which he may not have been - others missed those signs as well. Not to mention his parent(s) and other people he may have known and interacted with in the community.
Indeed…just a thought…what if instead of being afraid & paranoid of firearms she got pistol, learned how to use the tool & carried it w/ her? Maybe she wouldn’t feel so helpless & victimized all the time?
She seems like the cool art teacher everyone loves ❤️
This brought tears to my eyes. My prayers for strength and healing to everyone. Thanks to the teachers who live and stand in their hearts for our children. They are our future.
My son survived a school shooting, only because the guy was a poor shot. The student standing next to him became a paraplegic with severe thoracic issues. He called 911 after the shooter walked into the library and watched the police gun him down after he refused to drop the gun. I’m forever thankful for my boy’s life, but rarely bring it up because I know there are many grieving parents out there. This teacher is one special person and she’s in the perfect field because art IS healing. May she and all schools be a safe place for learning and growth. ❤
I admire your courage to tell your story, extended gratitude for all that you do, and will do. I speculate that It’s a society issue, a unit breakdown on a small and large level, a decrease in the value of human LIFE, no accountability. “Laws aren’t enforced” is kind of superficial, respectfully, if they don’t have the backing of a prosecuting attorney, even apprehending “criminals” is fruitless. It’s scary out there, St. Louis as the wild Wild West is a sad reality. 😢
casually drinking my morning coffee and crying 😭my heart goes out to anyone that’s ever experienced this. I can’t even imagine that type of trauma
I just don’t understand why these kids choose mass murder over healing their own mental illnesses or dealing with whatever trauma they have. Why harm others??
Brainwaahing
They don't know any better. Doesn't justify it though.
Because OF the mental illness. Some people don't have insight into their own illness. Especially shizo
It is not that the US has health insurance for everyone regardless of income, that might be a start to healthier people.
They can't heal their own mental illness. Someone has to sense that something is amiss, and take action on behalf of the person that is ill.
I stumbled across these interviews by chance although in reality probably guided by the omniscience of A.I. (perhaps some algorithms are written for good..?) what makes them so compelling to watch is the ability of the interviewer to say so little allowing the interviewees to express themselves with such clarity. Thank you.