Will the Cheapest Level IV Armor Save Your Life?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- In this video, we test the least expensive, imported Level IV plates on the market from Battle Steel. Will they stand up to the abuse and can they perform as advertised and potentially save your life? Let's find out.
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If your being shot at with a 30/06 at 10ft don't take your EX wife hunting.
Underrated comment 👍
Ain't that the truth
Bwahahaha😂🤣😂🤣
Facts💯
LOL!
I bought mine after I watched MrGunsnGear shoot the absolute PISS out of these plates, but I will absolutely accept a second opinion from IV8888
I have to say, I trust the opinion of IV8888 more than mrgunsngear. That’s just my opinion since I’ve been following him longer than gng.
Same here!!!
@@Refrigerator_ they are both legitimate when it comes to firearms and armor.
Check out Buffman Range. He does real good reviews he shows actual data
@@Refrigerator_ I wouldn't say I trust one more than the other, I've been following them both about the same amount of time. It's just that when I was in the market for plates, MrGnG had already done his review. That was over a year ago.
"The plate either stops the bullet or it doesn't"
I mean that seems like a good test to me!
Sample size of 1, lol good enough for lifesaving equipment I guess.
@@Halal_Dan technically 2, but yes I see your point. You're free to buy a few dozen of those and shoot them with multiple 30-06 black tips and record it for all of us if you like
@@JoeGarofaloII as long as the manufacturer is continuing to do this, then that's fine and dandy. That's what NIJ CPL ensures. Without that, as long as the manufacturer is keeping quality checks in place, great!
@@BuffRANGE since you probably don't hear this enough, THANK YOU for your replies and your videos and others 👍
@@SR-wz2iv You're welcome!
People hate these plates because they need to justify spending 3-5x as much on a different brand
You really don't have to spend that much more on certified plates.
My first set of NIJ certified plates was only about $100 more than this.
My latest set cost way more because it was thinner and extremely light. At only 6.5lbs for a large SAPI plate. Which puts them as 2lbs lighter than my other ceramic plates.
For $135 you can get an RMA level IV nij certified plate that's made in America.
The vast majority of this stuff is bought by people who have zero need for it in the first place, level IV body armor to wear while grocery shopping smh. 100 bucks is fine.
@@archstanton1628 you say that but I’ve actually used mine.
Oh dang, that was an actual full auto P90! I was expecting to be here a while watching all 50 rounds go down range lol
I like how he wears a lab coat into the woods to shoot stuff...
SCIENCE!!! 😂🤣😂🤣👍
Hell yeah! Just like a medical press conference on the White House lawn!
It's a call back to Barry
One of my dogs wears a lab coat everywhere she goes.
Because he’s a professional!
The 5.7 ammo cost more than the armor
Y'all need to paint George before running tests like this... just sayin'.
Yeah a little spray paint would have made the test results clearer
@@Brimwald There were no hole in the back of the plate, you can't get any clearer than that.. (other than the one that got through)
X4 on that!
@@calholli the back of the plate was chewed up, it was difficult to see what happened to the plate.
The paint is going to get chewed up from backface deformation anyways
Rifle protection is getting cheaper and lighter. A decade ago this plate might have cost $900, now it is $100.
This is very interesting.
The lvl 4 helmet was 3000$ when i first saw it.
Its 1400$ now.
5.11 has level IV multi hit plates that weigh 2 lbs each. Too bad they cost $400-$500 dollars each
@@Ronin_Noir there is no level IV plate on the market that weighs 2lbs.
@@fajile5109 there is no such thing as a level IV helmet.
@@Buddha23Fett Maybe he’s talking about a 6x6 side plate. Lol
I bought 3 plates shot 1 with big fast rounds like 6.5 Creedmoor and .300wsm and 300PRC.......it stopped all at 50 yards ...so I wear them with confidence
And don’t forget.. you will be on your back sucking wind after taking one of those shots wearing anyone’s armor.. let’s just not get shot by multiple mall assassins at Walmart boys .. lol
Yep. And the chances of them having black tip .30-06 are basically zero.
Chances of being shot by M193 or M995 seem to go up every day.
@@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder Depends. The army almost exclusively trains with M995. There was also a shooting a few days ago in Chicago with an honest to God Automatic weapon. It was a gang shooting in broad daylight in traffic, sure, but it was still an automatic. So if people can get their hands on one of those, it wouldn't be a stretch to see some M995 going missing and ending up on the black market.
@@BullsMahunny the army doesn’t exclusively train with M995. What are you even talking about?
All that crazy stuff you have and you don't have a Garand? Not hating so much as just somewhat shocked.
I think he meant he doesn’t have one with him, he has multiple garands
@@tonyestrada6747 true. I saw quite a few in his gun collection video a few years back. Like 5 or something
I feel like I remember a video where he said he had sold all that he had
He blinded me with science. SCIENCE.
You just got that little jingle stuck in my head! Thanks alot!😂🤣
You think he is gonna put a bra on his head and build a woman
Bum bum buuuuuum bum..... SCIENCE
@Sgg Ffgg That Christ is the savior of your poor soul
lol
IV8888: I don't have an M1 Garand.
Internet hate engaged......
@RogerWilco99 yeah, definitely thought he'd have one.
“Wrong end of the secret service”, you know, forgot that was a thing for a bit, could be modern gestapo soon I guess
THIS. I strongly suspect that should any citizen who owns body armor actually have it save them anytime in the next few years, it will be from a government owned gun fired by a Gestapo wanna-be.
Don't defame the honest men of the Gestapo by comparing them to DC swamp creatures.
@@michaelbaker8284 :D :D :D
@@Wearyman if the "gestapo" is after you then you wont get the chance to wear body armor
@@marblemarble7113 This is what early warning systems, staging and practice are for. Practice getting your gear on as fast as possible, have it set up close by (bedroom closet works) so that you can just grab it and toss it on and have your firearms set up with a quick access system. If you have early warning (battery backed up camera systems with audible proximity alerts to your phone and a dog) you will be up and ready. No guarantee you will live, but that's not the point. the point is to make it as painful for the Gestapo as possible. They lose enough good men and they can't keep going after patriots.
Hopefully, you won't ever face an offender who has a 30.06 anyway...
Hopefully you won't have to face a offender with anything not even a 22! 😆
@John Beige most hunters will have hollow points so as long as it hits the plate your good
What a bunch of dumb sub comments. A rifle like a 30-06 is a common hunting rifle, but semi autos are becoming more common. But seeing someone out hunting in a country like the USA with blacktips? You're more likely to find that 2000 pound bear your neighbors friends uncle mentioned he'd seen, while hunting with black tips! Lol. You guys are missing the point of the original comment.
Coming this holiday season, the AR-30-06.
In my area im far more concerned about 5.56 and 9mm from either anti-american government personnel or "Peaceful Protestors" that have raided government supplies on thier way out of the cities.
Considering most people buying this are most likely to be shot at by an AR, an AK, 308 ball or some hunting ammo ... this is plenty protection and then some.
Yes, it would be cool to see it's multi hit stop capabilities in something like 556 from 50 yards just to see a more realistic test... ... That would be cool.
@@elmaxidelsur agreed, 556 is the the real threat
@@elmaxidelsur if it stops black tip 3006, it will stop 556. Easily stop m193 and m855 and will even stop 1 hit from m995 tungsten core on a fresh plate.
@@fujimi715 yes, I know it will stop them but... How many? will it stop a 556 after you drop it...?? You know, like a regular civilian would handling it??? This won't be used by law enforcement, this will go into some go bag of a ""low budget prepper"" if won't be exchange if drop, it won't be exchange if hit. So... A test line that might interesting to see, I thing.
@@elmaxidelsur I believe buffman range tested this plate and he drops all the ceramics
I have a set of these im supper happy with them and this makes me feel even better about them
Same
@@JESTR_ACTUAL I have 1 rma lvl 4 plate and the rest are lvl 3 ar500. Gonna replace the ar500 plates with these. For $100 that seems as good as I can expect
@@notmefrfr these things are awesome for the price. And you can't beat the weight. Plus, that foam on the edges provides a tight fit in the plate bags, so no wiggle during maneuvers
@@notmefrfr I just ordered a some gts lvl 3 plates,one 2 weeks ago then 1 last week then a day later find out they'll stop the lead at rounds but not ap rounds so I ordered one of these battle steel level 4 plates to use in the front of my carrier,I hope they ship it fast cause I just read some stories about their shipping time and items marked in stock but not.
And it taking 3 months some times before they'll cancel the order for refund.
One guy said he got one at the $99 price same day they raised the price so they told him they were out of stock but then he called acting like he was a new customer and they said they were in stock.
@@darknature79 there are no steel lvl 4 plates that's I know of brother
I have two sets and they will do their intended job for me and my gf.
I buy my wife a set of protection every time I buy just so she's as safe as I am. Regardless if she think she needs it. Better safe than sorry 👍✌
@@Gldn1017 💪🤙👍
I don’t my 4 th kid is due in October
@@daneblackburn613 I laughed harder than I should have at that one.
I picked up some level 4 plates from LA Police Gear for around $100 each. Great video as always
Same here. I have my spartan armor steel plates in a basic carrier as back ups/loved one's armor.
Yep. Mine are LA police gear as well. And I put Spartan trauma pads behind them.
@@RUclipsLovesCowards Late comment, but be aware of the shrapnel that steel plates will make. If you don't have some hella coating and padding to stop it, your face and legs are gonna get cut up by a bullet impact
My homemade plates don't spread ceramic damage. Because I use hex tiles so a bullet will only wreck one tile at a time. The damage cannot spread beyond the single tile (2x2 hex).
Have you tested your home made plates and do you have a video of how you made them?
Lol. Okay guy. I'm sure you have so.e super dragon armor. If ceramic armor is built properly and bonded correctly to the backer, the damage is localized to within 2 inches, without sacrificing bullet pass-throughs at an angle and weighing 50% more
I feel pretty confident I'm never going to be shot with a 30-06 black tip. But for the price these plates will stop any threat I might ever see.
Yes most likely will face 556, AK, and 7.62NATO
@@fujimi715 didn't know AK was a bullet
I just ordered 2 gts pe ceramic plates then found out after that they won't stop 855a1 and was pissed,so I ordered one of these plates just now for $117 shipped to use in the front.
Guess you can never have enough armor tho.
I got the raptor 3a plates too and they're the best 3a plates for the price out.
Both plates weight about 1.5 lbs and that's awesome for 3a.
It's better that wet phone books taped together lol
If you read the certification documents carefully you will find that the testing lab certifies the actual plate that was tested. The certification does not apply to any other plate for liability reasons.
Almost every plate manufacturer does this because of the insane cost to get a nij certification for each model. Used to be 30,000$ per plate test and I imagine it’s gone up
this is dangerous, do you want to get Kentucky Ballitict? Ever heard of flyback shrapnell? especially with ceramic plates and steel or tungsten penetrator rounds
like i have been in a Test lab for VPAM - the EU version of the NIJ - they shoot the plates at 5 meters - the remote solenoid fired proof shooting benchmounted gun and the amount of flyback shrapnell over the years is enough that the wall behind the gun is splattered with some pretty hefty holes of penetrators comming back sideways - also the gun itself, every year or so they need to recrown or replace the barrel because shit flys back and hits the muzzle - and the optics for adjusting each shot to the wanted impact pattern.... please refrain from doing that again even if its a cool video it is not worth your bodily health or even eyesight every 200 or so erounds one comes back, you can be lucky a long time but at times we had 3 come back in a row, and come back close that is, like in linewith the barrel hitting a imagined shooter pretty much in the face or forehead
The hipoint of body armor
Edit that first corner shot legit flew back and left sparks in the air
no.. It's more like the PSA of body armor.. Cost is cheap but it's good quality and does the job impressively well.
The plate carrier was cheap and it was made out of cheap fabric. It wouldn't happen if it was made with nylon
“We’re not professional scientist”, but stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Test like this you should have that clear human chest gel that I’ve seen you used
Ballistics Gel. 👍
Wow that’s really impressive. And that’s with .30-06 black tip, which is probably a highly unlikely scenario. I think it’s safe to say these plates would shrug off 5.56 or 7.62x39 just fine.
Who uses 7.62 x 39? That's soooo last century. Also, the army approved and is the process of moving to a 6.8mm rifle. So whatever, wolf warrior.
@@knoahbody69 lol I’m sorry no one loves you
@@knoahbody69 are we going against civilians using 6.8? He’s saying 5.56 since that’s one of the most used rifle rounds especially in the US
@@ThatRM250guy Whatever, wolf warrior. Keep pushing your false narrative and you will get banned.
@@knoahbody69 is wolf warrior your role playing name? Also ban me, let me guess your dad owns RUclips? You’re just upset that I called you out on something that made you look stupid. “Wolf warrior” sooooo last century🤦🏽♂️
"Not if he shoots you in the femoral artery" ~Clint Smith 😆
I have used this armor for about a year now and it saved my spine.
Used to use AR500 plates plus side plates.. at only 5 lbs each and able to take black tip 06 I trust it.
However during winter shots and classes I don’t just toss the armor around in the back of my truck
Saved your spine huh
@@ViktoriousDead he probably means it’s lighter than his previous armor
I'm just here for the NIJ simps.
I bought LAPG level 4 plates (LA Police Gear) for $104 each... It's also a composite, but with different materials... Even the level 3+ plates they make pass the level 4 test, so they are nice plates... I bought 2 sets.
I almost did and then saw these. Thickness here is only .8 inches each, I think lapg is over 1.1 inches each, so these are thinner allowing for more maneuvering.
@@SWebb-tg1ki I'm deciding between the two right now. That's what I'm thinking about 🤔
I have a feeling if someone shot me with 30-06 black tip that I won't have to worry about taking multiple shots to my plate. I'm pretty sure I would drop like I wasn't wearing body armor... that would FREAKING HURT!!!
I suspect you will wish you were dead. I have a set of these They are heavy (I mean, 10 lbs of just the armor not counting any other gear. Not super light.) But I do feel very protected wearing them. That said, I'd still rather NOT get hit with a Black Tip, thank you very much.
@@Wearyman you are spot on about that 1 brother!
Most of the people that hate on these type plates are those who spent $800 on the "premium" brands.
Yep.
I’ve had these plates for a few years now and absolutely love them. Multi curved and will still everything you throw at it. I knew it was going to stop it, but wasn’t so sure on the edge hit, because you know, it’s at the edge. But I’m happy to see my trust in these work.
Why don't you place a piece of cardboard behind the plate to see if they penetrate?
I think I’m going to buy some clay for future tests.
I work for a very small agency in South Louisiana … I run these plates …. That being said, take it for what it’s worth, I I hope I never have to find out if they’re really gonna stop something, but I did buy three of them and myself and a few other officers tested one of the plates out and it held up
What rounds did you test?
Cool lab coat 👍
Now I know this is scientifically tested and I can trust the results.
Haha thanks for all you guys do!
It's the only 5.5 pounds that has me interested. I love my steel plates but boy thems heavy.
They're 5.5 pounds because the strike face is undersized, you're basically buying a size lower of what it says.
Steel is not real armor.
Get rid of your steal armour. Your wearing a frag grenade on your body.
It's the 20 year shelf life that sells me on the steel. I've got the build up coats on my 3+ plates so I'm not worried about spalling until I take 6 rounds or so to the chest. But I am shopping for ceramic now that I'm able to afford swapping it out every 3 or 4 years
@@blakeryan9155 Yeah definitely good that you're moving to ceramic. I wouldn't worry about the "shelf life" thing. Well maintained armor should last well over 5-10 years. Look at the guys with surplus SAPI and ESAPI plates. You're GTG
Made in USA Cheapest Level IV light weight armor is from Hudis Tactical
Hudis is over $40 more than this armor
@@armedpreacher still not bad
@@armedpreacher BUT ITS MADE IN AMERICA. AMERICANS NEVER CHEAP OUT, MY DAD TOLD ME SO
Made in the USA, I am not too sure of that.
Eric just couldn’t figure out which M1 Garand to shoot. Love that P90.
Is this the same armor as the old botach level 4? Got that for around $80
Looks like it
can't beat that man!
No they are currently using polyurethane
But how much it weigh
I bought LAPG for $104 on sale... it tests well also. You just have to baby these things.. if you fall on them a lot, they don't last very long.
If you can drop a Ceramic plate & damage the tegrity, then what if you fall off a decent height on your plate?
Part of the NIJ testing requirements is dropping the plate twice on the strike face before the test.
Hehe he. Tegrity.
If it is a decent height, you die from the fall and no longer have to worry about getting hit.
There's one RUclips test of these plates where the tester dropped them a few times before he shot it and still did the job.
@@Andrew85or That's me :D
I would wear it.. better than nothing and better than 3A.. if I run across someone with black tip 30-06, it just isn't my day.
Be nice if they had a type of rubber coating over the ceramic tiles that keeps them compressed so they don't just fall apart and fall into the plate.
I'm surprised you didn't use a high point to complete the package..
If it hasn't faced the Yeet Cannon, then I don't want to wear it. LOL.
IV8888 is the last person I would expect to not have a Garand.
If it will stop a black tip 30 ought 6 you are good to go. Mr. Guns and gear posted a video of this armor stopping a Hornady a tip 50 cal. The blunt trauma probably would have still killed you but it's absolutely insane. I don't care if they're $99 plates all the testing I have seen says that these plates are actually some of the best on the market and some of the lightest.
I completely agree! These are 2 to 3 pounds lighter EACH than steel plates costing more. I'm buying mine right now.
$100 armor is better than no armor. 🤷🏻♂️
Just a suggestion, might be worth putting maybe a thin stack of paper or relatively thin cardboard behind the plate carrier. Would definitely make it easier to use the same dummy while determining if you had penetration.
I bought these for each of my family members. For the price, it cant be beat.
Did you buy the plates or did they send you the plates for testing?
Sic semper tyrannis 1775
The weight of steel is terrible, but from a prepping stand point in my mind I justify it. With long shelf life and beating they can take. I go base coat though and through Kevlar spall guard on it
I'm more worried about 55gr 5.56 out of a 20in barrel
It can vary a bit. But most 556 is optimized for 16 inch barrels. I have seen testing where a lot of ammo actually was a 100 fps or so SLOWER out of a 20inch barrel. Obviously this can vary.
How heavy is it? People are buying 50lbs of armor and acting like their endurance won’t take a major penalty in an emergency scenario. 4th Generation Warfare (4GW) relies more on Maneuvers than Attrition. Even Ancient Rome understood the value of fighting endurance with their formations.
5.5lbs per plate.
I have some $30 wish armor ; I tried it out it will stop 2 rounds of 357 mag; but 2 rounds of 303 British fmj 174gr bullets go right thru; it's not level 3 plus ; it's at best level 2
Dont cheap out on something that is literally designed to save your LIFE
It amazes me that some people will drop over a grand on a nice "super reliable" carry gun, and then they snag up a $250 set of plates. I mean come on.....
Well ... its 5.5 lbs and stopped an AP 30-06 from 10ft away, what else do you want? Its going to stop your usual AR and AK rounds, its going to stop all pistol rounds and most hunting rounds, what else do you need?
@@BigChiefWiggles It's 5.5 pounds because the strike face is missing an inch of material around the whole edge. Real sub-6lb level 4 plates cost around $1,000. Have higher standards for your life saving equipment.
@@Halal_Dan no it does not, you just saw it stop an AP round on an edge hit, what are you talking about? There are some plates that dont extend to the edge, this is not one of them, i have some.
@@BigChiefWiggles You could see the foam edge as he took it apart, he even noted so in the video. The strike face isn't 10x12
Does it count if it's stacked with other ultralight plates in the carrier?
Ive seen alot of ex military recommend using a soft 3a vest as a trauma pad behind a plate carrier. I can only imagine this functions the same. I wonder of this plus standard ceramic plate then 3a soft. Granted you better not have to be mobile wearing all that
@@wootdoo I did see a test where somebody shot 5.56 and 7.62x39 at a 3a soft plate with loaded steel AK magazines in front of it. The loaded mags actually slowed (most of) the bullets down enough for the Kevlar to stop them. Of course some made it through but it was an interesting test.
@@wootdoo some ceramic plates are thinner and are only "officially" level 4 with a 3a backing. The plates that the UK Osprey system uses are basically done this way. The idea being exactly that, more overall protection, plus padding, plus saving weight.
Hope that helps.
You need to get some clay for your backer to see if there was anything that got through.
I’m going to integrate clay into some future tests so we can get a better idea
@@Iraqveteran8888 a frame from some 2x4 with a plywood backer is all you’ll need. Will also show how much energy is absorbed by the armor by the cavity it forms in the flattened clay.
The good news is he lives in Georgia, the ground is pretty much clay.
@@Iraqveteran8888 Please make sure you use a Roma #1 Plastalina clay or at least some form of non hardening oil based clay.. AKA copy the box I use on my channel ;)
@@coreymoyers wrong. Clay is used by the NIJ to determine if there is enough backface deformation to kill you.
Y’all should give the dummy a tshirt and have a camera watching it’s back so you can see in slow mo if a round gets through
Free Armor...the Full Armor of God. If I do die, then I go where I have Alway's Dreamed of. Respect's to You , I Understand the Firearm armor test
The key is to stay out of the enemies sights and not take hits.. you must kill the threat before it tries to kill you. Unless your going head to head battle you don;t need expensive body armor.
I, plan on taking the threat out not stand there and exchange hits. lol.. But people are welcome to suit up as much as they want..lol..I'M A ONE SHOT ONE KILL FORMER INFANTRY 031 MARINE. HURRAH..
LET THEM COME AND GET SOME...
Geez, put a Tshirt over the dummy but underneath the vest if you really can't tell if it went through. C'mon... There's some observation errors in this test
You dont have a Garand?!?!?! Im frickin shocked!!!
Only thing with this test is most threats are intermediate cartridges or pistol maybe shotguns at 5 feet sniper rifles are likely to be more distance but to stop most assult rifles and small calibers is more important at point blank
Check out my homemade armor proto 1 with only 1 tool
A ballistic gel torso with organs and bone would be good to have just to see if the round goes through, how much damage is done to the user.
Ok what I would like is a side by side comparison with rma 1155
Including both being dropped twice from 6ft as the NIJ requires before being shot.
Like everyone else I'm surprised you or Chad don't have a Garand
What I want to see is what happens to level 4 when it sees something like a 300 win mag or 338 Lapua. I know it's not rated to stop them, (and you'd probably wish it didn't) but I still think it would be interesting
Depending on the bulletin level IV will stop 300 win mag and 338LM but back face will be significant. I’ve used both for armor testing
I started following a new company called GTS that makes body armor. He shows how his plates are made and makes educational material on how it’s constructed and the chemistry that goes into the ceramics. But, one thing he showed is that even on the high end products of ceramic plates they don’t bring the ceramic all the way to the edge but leave up to an inch away and filled in with foam. I just bought his level IV plates and side plates and I’m extremely happy with the purchase
No Garand! Heresy!
is there anyone on youtube doing practical tests on body armor at different ranges? Im sure a level 3a vest would stop a tula/wolf 7.62x39 at 300meters you think differently? do the damn tests!
A test using a shorter barrel could give you results at lower velocities to simulate long range testing. However, I wouldnt count on 3A stopping rifle rounds, even at 300 yards.
@@Brimwald This is conjecture, i havent seen anyone preforming this test. M855 could poke through
@@Thisisoscar_ if it stops it at 45’ and backface is within spec, then any additional range is moot. Level IIIa even at range is horrible against rifle projectiles.
You'd think after they've done a few of these tests , and they aren't sure about penetrating the plate, that they would put card board or something behind the dummy?
9:51 aaaaaaaaand, there goes $80
That was a fantastic review of that piece of armor! probably one of the best armor penetration tests I have seen so far. Great job!
I'll save you 20min of time. Yes, it will stop everything it's meant to stop.
The only problem with these plates is that they’re pretty thick and might not fit in more low profile plate carriers. That’s typically par for the course when you’re talking about poly+ceramic plates.
They did fit in my AR500 Invictus carrier.
as long as they are not over 1.1" they should fit a LOT of carriers. Once you get into 1.2" like the RMA 109X series that's where thickness becomes an issue.
thanks for sharing‼️
my friends and relatives in Ukraine fighting for their country and their families with strongest and dangerous aggressor in the world
we looking for every way to help them save lives
if you can please help to develop level 3+ level 4 improvised DIY step by step method to make SAPI plates for our patriots and civilians in Ukraine
easy made stand alone plate has to withstand against 7.62×39 LPS Mid Steel Core and 7.62×54R LPS Mid Steel Core rounds which Russian army troops commonly uses
in general it equals 30-06 rounds but have some specifics such as a small steel penetrators inside bullets in the middle ...
Excellent video. 🤔👊🏽
So this plus a soft level 3 would be great?
For what? Anything that can get through this can most likely continue to get past soft level 3. A lot of time people will put soft 3a behind hard level 3 or 3+
@@SR-wz2iv Because obviously the plate won't absorb any KE.
@@cvabuck5489 that plus maybe after this plate slows it down the 3a soft will catch it
Wait wait wait... Neither Eric or chad own an M1? I’m shocked
Lol people hate hi-point handguns yet they shoot and are accurate and cheap..
For that price and it works...I don't give a shit where it was made.
Eric, What's the significance of the 8888 in your handle?
You know what you get with 2 billion indentured servants?
A monopoly on damned near everything.
Should have hit it with the 556 🤷🏽♂️
Given how common the round is and it’s velocity, it would’ve been a better test .
Mrgunsandgear did. Passed with flying colors
@@chadvalliere8697 his test was among the worst done. The plate was up against a half full box of sand and in no way attached to anything. The plate fell over with every shot and he waited to tape it to the box only after it was pretty much powder inside to mag dump 556 into it. His test was completely useless, at least here it was fastened to the test dummy getting much closer to realistic results and that's why it failed after five shots.
Now let's also be honest here in that the extreme close distance and standing still to take those five shots from a 30-06 blacktip is extremely unlikely. Unless you're really stupid and just walked right up to the gunman and stood there. So the armor isn't bad, the foam they sell for the back is rather substandard looking, almost like craft foam from the looks of it.
I say that it worked. If you want this for protection it is better than nothing and most bad guys are not running around with that type of ammo.
I have that, got it awhile ago
I like the plates. You said a contender. What’s better for the price point?
He made a believer out of me. seeing is believing.
Consider my purchase validated. Great video guys!
Just get hadji reactive armor.... If your gonna go out take them with you.
That’s a special order mannequin, 🤔
That black tip is, of course, an armor piercing round.
Can you do a harsh test on a polyethylene plate?
Somebody googled can level 4 stop 50 bmg 😂😂😂😂
sure why not
As far as I see here this armor is a great buy but as is the case with any ceramic plates the problem is when you get to the more powerful rounds, even if the plate prevents penetration, the back deformation still may cause a lethal wound, while the problem with level 4 steel ballistic armor such as AR-500 is the weight. Frankly, I'm not sure this type of armor would prevent lethal wounds as the vest would actually enter the torso. I've seen level 4 ceramic plates placed on a ballistic dummy and though the armor caught the AP rounds the sternum of the dummy was still chattered due to back deformation. The type of damage I saw on the ballistic dummy makes me doubt the likelihood of the wounds caused by the back deformation would be survivable. For that reason,if I were wanting protection against high powered rifle rounds weather AP or not I might opt for metal plates regardless of the weight. Just my two.
If it can't stop a .50bmg, I AM OUT! lol
Polyethylene plates can stop soft core .50 BMG but with lots of backface deformation expectedly.
If the plate you're wearing stops a .50BMG all that energy goes somewhere. Your internal organs will be jello.
@@andrewstoll4548 Better jello than scattered across the pavement behind you.
@@cvabuck5489 you do realize when that much energy in put into your body, you still die?
@@andrewstoll4548 And you understand the difference between open casket and an urn for family closure, right?
Are these NIJ certified ? I don't mean "Built to NIJ level 4 standard" but *certified* ? (great test btw, instant "like" from me :)
No they aren't
No. I know it's not technically certified, but they are independently tested by the same lab (hp white) that tests armor for the NIJ. So it's almost a yes, not just youtuber tested
Not for $100 per plate.