Freeside's Cut Content
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2020
- Episode 47 of FNV The Cutting Room Floor, an in depth investigation in the cut content, design and development of Obsidian's cult classic Fallout: New Vegas. In this episode, we take a look at Freeside's original iteration, the cut companion Betsy the Brahmin, the Kings, The NCR, Rotface's cut quest, Mick and Ralph, the Van Graffs, The Atomic Wrangler, Fisto, GI Blues, King's Gambit, Debt Collector, a ton of cut NPC's, patch changes, bugs and much, much more.
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Development of New Vegas summed up.
"We wanted to do more, but consoles"
this is why f4nv interests me, the but consoles no longer applies.
Also the engine kinda sucks
More like "We wanted to do more, but PS3"
It's one of the reasons I started hating consoles (among the more obvious ones like overpriced games, lack of digital stores etc)
Adrian I actually prefer hard copies of games, mostly because I can look at the box art and have a organized collection. But yeah, digital is pretty much better.
Favorite memory from Freeside is the shock I felt when I shot the rat the two kids were chasing and they started to eat it
Me too. For the longest time I thought the rat was their pet, friend, or something. I killed him once just because I wanted to be cruel. But when they started eating it, I was like: "Wait... WHAT?! "
“Thanks, mister.”
chew chomp chew
I know! Such a good memory
@@owndoing2055 "Joke on you, We also wanted to kill the rat." those two kids probably
@@PLANDerLinde99 I grew up in a third world country where kids would chase neighborhood animals (as messed up as it is) for fun; that’s where my mind went.
Freeside is the King's turf. Remember that.
Caeser sure did.
I wipped them out on my recent play through.
Yes
Not after the legion deals with them
KING'S RULE!, Thank you , thank you very much.
“Other wise unused area.” You mean where you drag the guns to before stealing them.
Walking out of van graff's, very evil
You mean the area where you store their bodies
I prefer to shoot em up cowboy style and bring cass along for the slaughter then "steal" the weapons
why the hell has everyone collectively done this without being told about it lmao
@@Sharpie_Green step 1- drag and claim
Step 2- sell to gun runners
Step 3- profit
Damn those low karma Freeside local lines has me fucking rolling, “baby killer! Don’t deny it, I heard you mowed down an orphanage on a dare!”
Legion Courier: I mean, if you count Camp Golf as an orphanage
Yeah not too far off from what I did in my Legion playthrough
Did you catch the Monty Python reference in there? "Witch! Witch! You should be burned for all those people you turned into newts". Definitely a holy grail nod.
@@ryanbarrie9143 maccarans full of kids anyway
@@CrimsonApothecary wild wasteland definitely
To create a midget version of Fallout 3, reverse pickpocket a set of BoS and Enclave armor on the C-Finder kids. Leave area and return. Watch a mini brotherhood chase after a mini enclave going "bang bang bang".
*Pure comedy gold*
I knew I wasnt the only one who liked to recreate other games inside a game
Can you actually do that?
I am gonna try this later. Thank you for this, lol.
Could you also give the kid a laser weapon without ammo to use instead of the C Finder?
@@UnrelatedAntonym Probably not. NPCs generally keep their default weapon equipped
why is that so adorable
It’s crazy, I always thought freeside was too quite. I thought maybe they were just oppressed by poverty to the point of not saying much to strangers, but to find out all these years that they were all just bugged is honestly heartbreaking. It would’ve added a nice lift to the experience of the area.
Yes, too quite...
@@mrcroob8563 quite
Very quite
I've long feared that the dark day will come when no more New Vegas cut content will be left. It's something I know I'm going to have to contend with one day. But for now we have a fucking hour-long video.
so much lore and fun things to learn even after 10 years
im still finding little things in the game and i have over 4k hours
I’m gonna go cope mode when that happens
@@njfhighlights5355 Oh damn, love your channel.
@@f3uibeghardt522 Thanks, got my stuff taken down by Neo cons
@@f3uibeghardt522 seriously though it got DMCA’d by kvetchian kirk
‘Having an NPC disappear right in front of you isn’t very immersive’
-Laughs in Cyberpunk-
How do you do that line between the words thing bro
@@blueguy5714 put a word or phrase in between 2 dashes
@@Slapped --new vegas is good on consoles--
@@blueguy5714 I play on console..
@@blueguy5714 i cant attest for the consoles at the time of release, but from my experience its way more stable on console right now. In 3 full playthrougs i got no crashes or corrupted saves and and like half a dozen infinite loading screens total
It's a miracle NV was so good. I cannot believe they made the game as good as they did within 18 months. It really sucks they couldn't have more time.
@lowtierfallout2148 did it come out? if it did, you got the link?
NV started out as a contracted FO3 DLC even
final game is closer to something like a total conversion
They should have had less time tbh they would have to get more creative and the game would be better
@@Cyborgrobotarmswagmost garbage take. The game already has bugs and glitches and so much cut content. Less time and the game might not even be close to as good.
@@Devin13132 no because if they had less time they would have crunched harder and added more shit to the game
"Rumor has it that you're really a *possessed golem* being controlled by *the casinos.* If this is true, where is your *control crystal?"*
There's so much unspoken but implied context in this line that it gets me everytime.
It reads like some of the joke dialogue from Fallout 2's New Reno NPCs.
If that was a reference to The Sims than damn that was the least likely you would hear of
I thought this was a reference to Dragon Age and Shale
She's just a DnD fan.
Todd, did you insert a numidium refference in new vegas!?
I’ll never forget Rotface, he was my first look into Freeside and his looked-down-upon attitude that made me sympathetic of Ghouls and made me like them :)
The dude who robs you?
@@daoyang223 He doesn't rob you anymore. Newer versions, he'll just buy his hat and continue sitting. He doesn't even buy Eulogy's suit anymore.
My first interaction with a ghoul was the bar tender in fallout 3 your character fuckin freaks out and calls him a zombie 😂
@@exoticmaterials2695 So when did that patch happen? back in 2014, I played it and he still robbed me?
@@daoyang223 Don't know. Was it on console? He probably robs you on console versions but he shouldn't on PC I believe.
Freeside dude: "I heard you mowed down an entire orphanage on a dare"
Courier: *loads big iron*
At this rate, I feel like there is infinite amount of cut content in FNV
God I hope so
Pretty sure they were going to implement some sewer mechanic in the game too like they did with FO3s metro station
Nazi Obama
Nazi Obama
@@daoyang223 there is a sewer outside of freesias connects to mcarran the farm and freeside entrances
All the dead sea scrolls and The entire first copy of the first testiment in hebrew were removed from the game after the creative director decided it would be too much for mankind to handle in their current status as eternal sinners ad would need to grow more as a species before being deemed worthy.
"you hear about that band of crazy old ladys running around?...I hear they're REAL vicious when they mug folks"
I REALLY wish that line was still ingame...it would for sure prepare me for the clusterfuck of that entire Wild Wasteland encounter when it first happens lol
I just wish a remake could be done on next gen to include everything that's been cut out. Just imagine how amaizng it would be. Crazy this is still my favourite even when you look at all the things left out and bugs.
@@imonke5303 a storyline as a ghoul would be amazing tbh
@@conormck4494 I can understand how there would be problems playing as a super mutant, but ghouls? We should definitely be able to play them
I'd prefer a sequel, now that both Obsidian and Bethesda are owned by Microsoft. A pipe dream, I know, but a good one none the less.
when it comes to most of the quests, i don't want them restored. most of the quests that were cut were cut because they weren't good enough. new vegas is like a good steak with most of the fat trimmed. putting the extra fat back on it doesn't make it a better steak. it just makes it a worse steak.
when it comes to world spaces and extra npcs, those are what i want to see restored. it'd be nice to have a fully realized new vegas proper: full sized casinos, open gomorrah, restored west and south strip gates, etc.
@@CadillacEulogy radiation doesn't come up a lot, but it can make areas where it is important pretty trivial. That's my only thought.
That’s funny. I actually remember those Freeside guards being there at release. They must’ve patched it out later.
They did. They cut a lot of stuff from the game after launch because of stability issues on the consoles.
@@petergoodwin5555 do you know what this mod is called? I would like to install it
@@anti-punkaction5428 New Vegas Uncut. Bear in mind the Freeside one can conflict with other mods.
@@petergoodwin5555 mods are always there to help because people would complain more if they didn't exist and can't fix it themselves
Mods are wonderful its basicly fine I'll do it my self
They also removed the injured NCR troops inbetween Nelson and Forlorn Hope. The ones that had been left there with missing limbs begging for help, but where a ruse to hide the mines.
Last time I was this early President Tandi had just been elected.
@@rileymccreanor6492 Tandi was one of the founders of the NCR in the Fallout universe. She was also the second and longest serving president of the NCR with a 52 year term.
@@rileymccreanor6492
I know you, Ur from that paper Mario RUclips Comment thread
I just hope that you and Dave Matthew are friends now
@@rileymccreanor6492 fuck Dave Mathews, am I right
Last time I was this early Trump was winning Pennsylvania.
Last time I was this early liberals were worried about election fraud.
People keep talking about a New Vegas 2 now that Microsoft owns Obsidian and Bethesda, but I almost wonder if I'd rather have a remake of New Vegas that does it right. Because New Vegas could have and should have been so much more, and that it was so great despite missing so much is quite an accomplishment.
Though problem with that is that most of the people who made New Vegas so great don't work at Obsidian anymore.
I'd much rather have a remake of New Vegas than a second one. At least then the developers would have a greater amount of time to work in a lot of the content they wanted to impliment in the first place.
This is why I'm hopeful for Fallout 4: New Vegas. True, it's not made by Bethesda or Obsidian, but the team behind it has gone out of their way to make sure everything is a one to one conversion into FO4.
and that last point, sadly, is why we will never get a true new Vegas sequel, because most if not all the people who actually made the game are no longer at obsidian. even a remake most likely wouldn’t work, at best it would be a 1 to 1 recreation of what’s already there, and at worst an attempt to make it what it could/should have been but failing because everyone who was behind the original vision for the game has left the company.
Id rather just have a finished NV than a remake.
Courier: She turned you into a newt
NPC: I got better
😂 that has to be with the Wild Wasteland Perk such a shame
It kinda sucks that Freeside was cut due to issues with consoles and now with my big and fancy computer I got a bunch of mods to restore Freeside. But in that same breath I am so happy they made it available for consoles because that's how I got involved in the Fallout Franchise, I even brought my fancy metal case of Fallout New Vegas to Middle School to brag about it.
30:50 So fun fact, that area is actually accessible on foot. If you enter the adjacent building and climb over some rubble (not janky either), you get onto the second floor. Pass through a hole in the wall, and you’re there. Definitely a space they wanted to use, but didn’t.
“Good? Bad? You’re the one with the weapons eh?”
Love that was a reference to Army of Darkness
ironically the hireable bodyguards mentioned around 8 minutes in are in the console version
Just the Xbox version
@@IncultaWolf Wait, really?
@@SkeweredGlaive yup
@@SkeweredGlaive yes , i was a 360 player before coming to pc , i thought it was a glitch in my pc copy that those bodyguards werent there
A lot of cut content was originally on the Xbox but was taken out with updates.
Hearing some of these hilarious cut Freeside gossip lines I really wanna dig them up and include them in my quest mod. Just have a random npc walk up to the player and accuse them of necrophilia out of nowhere to confuse them.
Please yesssss 😂
this game could have literally been the best game of all time i hope they make a new one
"Could have been even better, despite being the best game of all time"
Hopefully we’ll one day get a remake with a lot of the content that was cut implemented in some way.
JSawyer cut is pretty close :)
Fallout 4:New Vegas is still indev
Get the freeside open mod on nexus. They brought back like 70% of the cut content to freeside
I would sell my kidneys and half my liver to get a new vegas remake with cut content
The Xbox version has some cut content believe it or not
I always loved Freeside more than the actual Strip.
OH SHIT! Another Triangle City joint ;)
The amount of work you've done uncovering all of this cut content for the game, interviewing the dev team, organizing it is seriously under appreciated. Always look forward to the next video.
Thank you so much!!! 💙💙💙
31:00 that area above the silver rush is accessible, I play on console and you just jump up the rubble from the inside of the building next door
Came here just to see if anybody knew this lmao
@@jvstdying same, i laughed for a moment. i quite like that spot, would have made for a nice player home spot or something with a view.
@@HaxyShark I know right it's got a seat and everything, I use to pretend it was my house
I love the Boone Dialogue, it’s so true I love the playthrough style where Boone is the main leader and I’m basically the navigator.
we can only dream that one day bethesda/obsidian will remake this game for new gen with a bunch of old cut content
Except I think the mass effect legendary edition is going to set a crap bar that ‘ they don’t need to bother with adding in additional cut content ‘
They could even complete the Legion quests. Make it worth your time to actually side with them.
Ah, to dream.
Omg I’ve waited for a free side cut content video for months and it’s finally here thank you
Love your content man, seeing a comprehensive list of all the cut content just makes me sad thinking of what a monolith of a game FNV could have been
The unused line at 11:20 is an Army of Darkness reference, nice.
I have to wonder how much of the cut content triangle city has repeated or gone over more than once, because looking at the number and length of videos on his channel, it gives the impression that the new Vegas we got is only 20-30% complete and the other 80-70% was cut.
1:55 i can feel my fps drop with that picture
JESUS
I wish the legion had been worked on more, they are the most interesting "villians" in fallout, wish they had more content
At 36:30 Fort Condor music playing in the background, oddly enough I never expected FF7 music would fit perfectly well in a proper Fallout game so well. 😄
Oh, to give this game the Demon's Souls treatment complete with some polished-off features now that technology has caught up with Obsidian's Ambition.
These FNV deep dives are amazing
11:24 is the best line ever!
We all know that PS3 is the “console memory issue”
Hahaha facts good ol ps3 😂😂😂picked up a jailbroken ps3 awhile back with fnv ultimate edition or whatnot, and it ran like junk hahaha glad I have a pc
Yup 😂
@@shanesmokes6447 I never had a 360 or PS3 but I played New Vegas on my Xbox One and learning about all the cut content got me pissed at the consoles at the time only to learn that it was mainly the PS3 with the worse memory limitations
Never forget Skyrim at release on PS3. Didn’t even work.
@@hamstersplural4334 that was because of the PS3 cell processor which Sony was very proud of until theydecided to get rid of it and make the pS4 similar to a PC.
These videos are so damn comfy that I keep falling asleep to them. Like the information is fascinating but something about these videos helps me sleep really well. Thanks for that.
Me too, I am glad I found this channel because I’ve gotten so used to falling asleep to great narrators with great content, I can’t sleep without it 😂, good thing so far over the last 10 years, New Creators keep popping up , and providing more good stuff, I have watched 4810 hours of (premium) RUclips videos 99.9% going to sleep since I got premium I guess. Good comment.
Fun fact: with a little bit of parkour you can totally get to the second floor of the Silver Rush! It's super useful for taking out the Van Graffs, since you can lob explosives over the wall.
10:51 BABYKILLER!! dont deny it!! they told me you mowed down an entire orphanage on a dare.
holy shit where is this quest at?!?
The TES poles can be found in other areas too, such as Goodsprings. They just C&P'd them at random.
Also, love the use of the FTL soundtrack starting at 29:04.
Funny that Concealed Mines are basically removed from the game despite being how real life landmines are used lol
I think the freeside rumors that were cut were going to be based on a Karma type that you have or the outcome of cut quests that were based on the supernatural or moral side that didn't make it in
Lol the perfect dark music behind the dialogue previews
Yo that cut dialog is so damn unique and interesting! If only that could've been in the game the way it was intended!
So many unused lines for the freeside locals, kinda insane to think that much work has gone unused and unnoticed for years now. Some of those lines are gold
After watching this i do the rotface hat thing where you buy 10 tips and walk out and come back in lol so many years playing this games and i still find something new every time i play it
SMELL THAT AIR!!
"COULDN'T YOU JUST DRINK IT LIKE BOOOOZE!"
I have a feeling that the reason the Betsy the Brahmin quest was cut halfway through is they realized that it would be difficult to have such a large companion be able to go through tight areas like vaults and office buildings, but that's just speculation. It would definitely be cool to have a brahmin along with Cass so you could play like a caravanner, but ultimately I suppose there were pieces of cut content that could have used the time more.
he just keeps on coming.
hes a mad man
A MADDD MANNN!!!
30:47 you can actually climb up there. I found it when trying to break into the silver rush to find evidence of their shenanigans to report to the NCR during Cass's' companion quest.
This episode was really impressive. Very informative, and a great length!
Thanks for all your work.
For what it is, it’s still a memorable area, to me, for all the experiences I had in New Vegas. Admittedly this the GI Blues is one of my favourites, and the notion of a Freeside Faction would’ve been interesting.
Time for a remake
The control crystal would have been good to eventually expand on the wasteland’s wacky beliefs.
Favorite part of freeside is the time I had a save in there and couldn’t load it
This content is to die for
the more I watch these cut content videos the more painful it is to realize that new vegas as it is (amazing) could have been so much grander if obsidian was just given more time
7:56 I'm pretty sure on my first playthrough of new vegas, I went through the the east gate and saw the three bodyguards there, (probably a glitch) by I was confused when on my second time around they where gone. Still, the consept was super interesting to me.
I remember seeing the bodyguards too!
Yeah. They're cut on everything but Xbox oddly.
i just found you a few days ago and hey, i love your content! it provides in-depth explanation of the cut content in quite a calming yet entertaining way
I love that 49:25 is just Yuri Lowenthal talking to himself but one's just more gruff sounding
its ridiculous how much content was cut from rotface, I really wish the devs were able to keep it in the game
Hey man I recently subscribed after being on a fallout binge. Noticed you had some very interesting content that was throughly researched. Great work man, never clicked on a video so fast!
This is awesome. Some of my favorite content on RUclips. I always look forward to your uploads!
“Good, bad, you’re the one with the weapons”. So sad this Evil Dead reference got cut
Imagine an alternate universe where Bethesda’s engine didn’t suck and obsidian had all the time they wanted to complete the game. Geee wiz
The rot face thing gave me a good standard for charisma or speech. If a character the player built a relationship with turns on them, that’s when a 100 speech or charisma 10 check can make them friendly. It would be a really tempting way to get people to have max charisma build.
Thank you for making these videos, always glad to see them :)
I arrived to freeside in my current play through today, and this video pops up. Your videos are awesome 👌
A real shame with rotface. Even with just hearing the dialogue I would've grown to like 'em.
Sad that they got cut :(
Hour long, YEE🔥🎥🍿
Free side is always one of the first places I end up modding to make it better and dense. I wish there was a diverse clothing mod for the squatters there like you see on the cover of All Roads.
I just want to say thank you for making these videos they’re very entertaining and most of them are long which I think is also cool.
What? I still have two kids chasing the rat in my game is something up
31:00 You can get into that space with a little jumping, at least with the PS3 version. I remember going up there and thinking it would be a good sniper's nest or lookout area to monitor traffic in and out of The Silver Rush or the side gate into the area. I also thought it would make a good free house with a few very minor changes.
Great as always! Thanks for the upload!
The best part about some of this stuff too is the great work the modding community has done in putting a fraction of it back into the game. Like that scene from the hostage being killed by the Van Graffs? I'm almost positive there's a mod that adds cut FO:NV content that puts it mostly back in because I recognized the dialog from my many playthroughs of my modded game :D.
Great podcast as well, just shockingly discovered you only just yesterday somehow.
Aw Rotface’s self confidence 😌 He loves himself and that’s what matters.
It would be interesting to see a remaster or upgrade of the game for next gen consoles with some or all of the unfinished or cut content restored. I guarantee they'd make a fortune selling it to all of us again
Love these videos, had to rewatch this one
Great video! I can’t wait to see what else you make.
Thanks for all of the great work on all of this, have you considered doing cut content for the rest of the fallout series?
After this series is complete, definitely! 🖤
@@TriangleCity fo4 had so much cool cut content
Should keep me busy before Cyberpunk 2077!
Same
I’ve had more game crashes with Cyberpunk in two days than I’ve had an entire decade with Fallout New Vegas.
@@jdgustofwinddance.7748 Lol I was talking about the video.
Comments that aged poorly.
@@isopropyl1314 more like reply’s
8:20 for some Godforasken reason, the music here sounded like the old default Samsung alarm, and I almost had a damn flashback from high-school lmao
Another amazing video, thank you for the amazing work
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
I’ll show you a real tunnel Snake 😏
The Kings: "I'm you, but better".
Its makes sense how if you join the king's the 2 NPCs wont pick pocket you
I wanted to take a quick peek at some quality cut content before bed, but I see now that this behemoth is going to require my full attention, can't wait!
Idk about anyone else, but hearing them talk about how they put lots of thought into things like; where the farms are, where water is stored, how does that water get there, how do small groups in this town interact with each other, and go on to say that while it's a small detail it's important for world-building. I love that, contrasted to the "write a story and the player will rip it up and make paper planes out of it so let's just not write anything properly" it truly is no wonder Fallout NV is such a loved game.
"Good, bad, you're the guy with the weapons" is that an army of darkness reference? lol
Holy duck man this is an even better drop then Mario Judah and willburgur
You're doing great work, man!
You look like Arcade Ganon
25:40 I like this one, i always remembered it being 3, little girl and 2 boys and figured over the years when i didnt see all 3 of them that they got stuck on something somewhere on every playthrough, i never thought they were just straight up gone and that makes me kinda sad... ill never see those NPCs again when i thought they were just around the corner :(
30:57 - You don't need to noclip up there, you can access that area through the building next door to the Silver Rush by climbing up the rubble. It's a good bed to use for healing on Hardcore playthroughs when doing the Silver Rush quests