One important benefit of the SR though: being a LFP battery means charging to 100% as a matter of routine which gives a day-to- day range comparable to the LR.
Exactly. No battery conservation regime required. >250 miles waiting on the driveway every morning. What's not to love about that? I think I drove more than 250 miles in one stint a couple of times in the last 5 years (House-hunting in South West France, trying to get there from Newhaven-Dieppe to Bergerac as quickly as possible on the (beautiful) Autoroute). A realistic 250 miles plus an anxiety buffer of 30 miles suits me down to the ground for 99.999% of my driving.
Good point. You can charge an LR to 100% just before a long trip, but not every day. I think the range of the SR is plenty for many people. I have an LR Model Y rather than an SR, but that is mostly because I wanted AWD.
I’ve been trying to find an answer to this, and the best I’ve found is that LFP batteries take a bigger hit in range and charging speeds in freezing temperatures compared to NMC batteries. But it’s tough to find any proper testing with exact data and numbers. Anyway, my point being that despite the advantage you mentioned, LFP battery range might not actually be that good in cold weather.
Interesting review. I currently have a 3.5 year old Model 3 Long Range. One thing I consider is the residual value after say 4 years of ownership. The LR should be worth more when I come to sell it. Maybe 4k more? Therefore over the 4 years, the ‘real’ cost is an extra 6k that would give me faster 0-60, longer range, better stereo and 4WD. Plus the battery range will degrade over time so the real world range will remain stronger. On this basis I’d go for LR again. Happy to be challenged on these numbers!
I heard the LFP battery on the SR degrades slower than the battery on the LR so I actually think they'll end up the same value in 4-5 years. But yeah this is just speculation.
I’ve got a Model Y LR and have been using an i4 and Polestar 2 for work for approx 5k miles each. Just had the new Model 3 RWD for a week demo. It’s incredible and definitely the best value car on the market
Having done about 200 mile testing on the Highland SR the fact that it will outrange my 2020 M3P supposed "Long Range AWD" by some margin just shows you how much things have changed in the land of Tesla efficiency 😅 Still love it though, but credit where credit is due!
@@i.d.6492 Its because the new model 3 refresh was codenamed "highland" by tesla, basically jargon people like to use to sound smarter than people who don't understand it
In my Highland LR, I drove around country roads in Wales at the speed limits of mostly 50/60 with the usual 30mph villages, at 10°C with 60% charge and ended up with 191Wh per mile, or a calculated range of 393 miles, which is a bit crazy… 220Wh per mile on the motorway…
Thanks for doing this comparison, it looks like the standard range is a good increase and near 300 mile in the real world tests. I would choose the standard range as it is not often that I need the extra range and it would be far quicker than my current Kia E Niro.
Definitely worth getting the standard range for my personal preference,not to mention in summer 5mile per kWh would easily be achievable,cheers guys 👍😉💪
Thankyou for another great video, keep up the good work, haven't found anyone else who give such clear analysis with a complete unbias . I wish you guys all the best.
Thanks Richard and team another great video. The SR is all the car I would need as it enables me to drive home non stop (most of the time) from my daughter near Chester and Gatwick. I also road trip once a year to my son in Zurich so I’d probably only need charge Reims and Nancy in summertime.
Good video, I have been waiting for this one. I have the 2022 LFP and as proven on my tests on my channel, I get 280+ miles in half decent weather at normal motorway speeds on long journeys. The RWD is more efficient. Big advantage is charge to 100% each time. I think for £10k less, the LR is a ‘hard sell’ for most. My 2022 RWD is a fantastic car, I prefer it to my 2018 S. I drive everywhere no issue, distance is not a problem in the RWD. Looks like the new one may get slightly more miles, but not much. I actually find the audio in my 2022 RWD fantastic, better than the enhanced audio in the S. Nice to hear this one may be even better.
Day to day normal driving you won't notice a difference. But as soon as you know in advance that you need to do a longer trip, you can charge the LR to 100%, and get a lot more range. So if you're doing quite some longer drives, I would still recommend the LR.
@@wavesnowaves the LG long range battery is poop. garbage battery pack. charges very slow after 30 percent its not a good road tripper if it doesnt charge quick. the ioniq 6 charges way faster im not comparing them but comparing the lg battery to last model 3 Panasonic its different. charging curve is bad
not sold on the longevity of the LFP. Tesla switched to this battery during the chip shortage, put it in the cheapest Tesla, and all of a sudden it became the “most durable battery”. If they really thought that, why is the battery warranty only 100k miles compared to the long range 120k mile warranty?
The LFP batteries are superior to the NMC batteries in every way. They are taking the solar industry by storm. They will charge 6000 cycles or 16.4 years if you charge every day, while maintaining 80 - 90% of its capacity. NMC batteries are inferior by comparison.
Yes, but its safe to charge the LR to 100% during longer journeys, just minimize the frequency of it. It´s fine once in a while when going on a 500 km trip.
Is it correct that SR comes with LFP batteries, and LR does not? If so, the real everyday range is the same for you can routinely charge the LFP batteries to 100% while NCA batteries recommended charge level is 80%. 352*0.8=281. Your projected range is 286 miles for SR, so in fact it can drive even longer! Battery degradation is expected to be lower for the LFPs as well...
Yes but with the LR you keep the limit set to 80% for when you drive locally and when you go on a road trip you can charge to 100% and get the full range and that will result in less degradation.
Thank you Richard for a real world comparison proving that both versions are vastly more efficient than its rivals. A certain well known motoring magazine should take tips from you guys on how to compare
Nice comparison test video. My nephew is all fired up to get a Tesla M3 of some description. Thing is, he can't make his mind up if he wants a used 2023 M3 LR or Std or New 2024 model. They are becoming very affordable now Used with decent low-ish mileage. My opinion? Seriously, if a Highland is going to put you badly out of pocket, a used heat pump model M3 is very appealing. Especially if you've never been that used to a Tesla, as he hasn't. Though he has test driven both those 2023 options now and loves them both, but also loves the sharper looks of the 2024s.
Thanks for doing this video, SR is the one for me. 286M give or take is decent and living in London will give me access to super charging is I need to, whilst being to charge at home too. Thanks for mentioning the audio too!
You are not going to get 286M on long trips or short trips whilst using the heater a lot in London. Don't expect that. This is pretty much the besdt you will get out of the car.
@@BigRobLandanHard to give a number as it depends on many things. On a zero C to negative C Weather day, with short runs in London, a lot of stopngo with a cold battery - your best bet would be about 160miles from 100% to 0%. In a normal winter day if you don't abuse the heater a lot, with StopNGo, maybe 200miles. Maybe less. With the heater off maybe 220 miles. You will also have to factor in things like sentry if you use it (this drains the battery while parked - it is best not to use it when you don't really need it). In the summer 280miles would be possible in the city as a max range.
So what’s point of LR then if your recommended to charge to 80% most of the time? Would the range at 80% on LR match or there abouts 100% charge of Sr? So get the LR if you going to lots of long journeys but it’s recommended not to charge to beyond 80% often. Understanding EVs is tough, maybe just stick to my diesel car 😂😂
For company car and for people who drive long distance very often, the LR model worth the extra £10k. Also, in countries with snow, the AWD LR could be crucial. For me, the SR Highland consumes 14% battery during a 70km daily commute. I got 3,500km in 2 months and the avergae consumption is 12,9kwh/100km. That's 450km range on a single charge in average. I've not used superchargers yet. Only charging in my garage at 16A 3,6kw/h (slowest possible wall charger). I don't even need an expensive higher capacity wall charger. In 8 hours during the night it charges 45% which covers 3 days of my commute. I've already saved over €200 on petrol. Insurance a little bit higher but there's no road tax and annual maintenance. So for people like me it's a no brainer to have an EV. Fast, quite, comfortable, cheap to run. Thanks for the video, it shows I've made the right decision with the SR 😊
I am mostly concerned about the audio, but glad to hear its not that much different. My current car doesn't have "premium" audio anyway. Just waiting for delivery of highland. Cheers
Thanks Richard. I currently own LR model 3. When I drove the new SR highland, I was blown away! It’s far superior to the previous LR model 3. It’s very fast, very quiet, very sleek, luxurious and beautiful to behold. 👏🏾🕺🏾👍🏾🥰Thank you Tesla.
The LR should have an 82kwh battery (75 usable), and it is not 4WD, it is AWD. The car is mostly rear wheel drive, the front motor is used for regenerative braking, during heavy acceleration and when the road is slippery.
If the road is not slippery and you are accelerating mildly in a straight line, it should not matter at all which motor is pulling - it should be the more efficient one for the speed, conditions.
Quite aware of what drives what but try and balance how much Info to put into video. FYI it’s 79kwh. Could be 82kwh in Europe but we’ve never had that for LR in the UK. We had 82 in performance for a bit before they also went 79kwh
Based on that test, LR would have 453 km at 80% (max. recommended daily charge level) and SR would be 460 km at 100%. So you would start each day with the same range and lose only in longer journeys. SR is a beast for its price.
@@RSEV You get that 20% boost for the first leg. After that, you are likely charging only to the what you can fast charge until you finally get to your destination. It's not clear to me what that means in absolute miles but I heard it argued it closes the gap even further.
Good to know. Looks like for both AWD and RWD, the multi link suspension on the rear makes a big difference compared to the outgoing M3. Appreciate your response!
Bought an early Polestar2 2020 as Tesla demos at that time had bits falling off. Couldn’t cope with hard ride and sold it early on. These reviews are making me think time to revisit with increased comfort build quality.. and the network of course.
We have the Highland SR Model 3 and plug it in every evening to trickle charge it to 100%. Given that the LR should only be charged to 80% and that otherwise they are almost identical, I struggle to find a reason for the extra cost. Maybe if one day the LR gets LFP batteries to unlock the full range on a daily basis, but for now it doesn't seem all that attractive to me.
Spectacular. I’m considering buying one and realizing the difference of what is delivered in relation to the price is really very important. Thank you very much for the video.
Ok i own a Tesla 2022 RWD, and i love the sound system. And you say its a BIG improvement? :) LOL it's better for myself probably to NOT drive the Highland to keep myself happy and keep the money in the pocket.
@@HermanWillems If you have kids don't forget to teach them about the emergency exit in the rear as it is like no other car. And if power goes have them jump the front seat as there's no way in to the rear from the outside.
@@twotone3871 no kids. Sorry. Wish i had them though. Not easy to find a decent woman to actually start a family with. Money is easy. Woman are difficult.
tested the LR which pitches and yaws a tad too much for my taste during hard acceleration and braking. Is the SR better due to it being less powerful and lighter?
Just searched for this, nice timing:) The long range is a bit of a weird proposition, you cannot really justify buying it given the price difference. I am glad Tesla made the standard range so good, I think all in all it is a positive for consumers. Would love a standard range with the bigger battery though and only a 4k increase or something.
This. The figures the RWD is pulling now from my own testing if I got another one Id seriously consider it over a LR or P the efficiency is rediculous. They are quick enough.
If you never plan to leave "town" and road trip, standard 100%. But if you think you will take road trips and plan to keep the car for 3-5 years or more I'd say LR all the way. It all adds up over time in my opinion. Resale is better as well
If you daily charge the LR to 80% and the Std range to 100%, there's no difference in range. And the LFP battery IMO is better for longevity. I'm at 95,000 km on our 2022 Std range model 3 with only 7 km range loss.
@antoinepageau8336 What is your charge habit then? I have found a discussion on RUclips were the range loss is like 5 to 7% with LFP at 50,000 to 100,000 km. I had a Model 3 LR till last week and at 80,000km with a loss with 3.5%. I charge to 80% and don't go down mostly below 10%. On long trips I go to 100% (top it off from 80% to 100% just before I leave). And leave it between 40 to 65%, when I don't drive it for a few days. Everybody says that LFP can charge without loose to 100%. But if you leave that LFP battery at 100% more than 1 days, that can't be good for the battery. Or leave it at 10% for a long time.
After owning a 2020 long range I think I’d always go standard range in the future despite regularly doing 400 mile round trips. Unless you want the dual motor, £10k is a lot just to save a few supercharges at stops I would do anyway
In Iceland, where we have snowy (sometimes a lot) and icy conditions for 4-5 months every year the AWD Long Range is preferably needed for traction and there are not that many Tesla Chargers in Iceland. And btw, its safe to charge the Long Range up to 100% for longer journeys but minimize the frequency of it and do not keep the car at 100% charge like you actually can with the SR
I've had my standard range Tesla Y for one year. The reason I went for the standard range was the LFP battery. 100% charging. No fire risk. Much longer battery life.
the original SR+ showed 240 miles EPA in the car when I bought it. 254 was the WLTP figure. 220 was doable at 65 in summer with climate on auto. 160 winter as RSEV says here would be also at 65 in winter, as heating is mighty inefficient in them pre-heat pump cars in comparison
The late 2021/ early 2022 was when it made the leap. The LFP and bigger battery, heat pump etc. I have a 2022 LFP and in decent weather can squeeze over 280 miles on motorway trips at around 70mph.
Great video. I don't own an electric car but would i be correct in saying that nobody drives the full range of the battery? So if you wanted to plug in the least amount of times it would probably only meaning using 70 - 80% of the full capacity?
Great videos and reviews of the new Highland. I’m struggling to connect to Intelligent octopus, any advice on how to add a virtual key (on the Tesla app) to allow connectivity to the Octopus app ?? 🙏🏼
Thanks for this very interesting video. It's the Dual Motor for me, but in the Model Y. Can I ask how you get on with the indicator buttons, especially when leaving a roundabout? I haven't had a chance to try the new design interior yet
Great video, thanks Richard. SR is a great car. Looking at the efficiency of the LR in the video, a quick note to share what I got out of my 2020 LR (Gen 1, no heat pump) driving one week the exact same distance and route, at about 7C outside temp, at max legal speed , climate at 20C, distance of 79 miles (M3 - M27 - A31), I returned 236W/mile. Did the same route with heating off and returned 229W/mile so not a big difference with/without heating on. You can see the difference between Gen 1 and Highland: 211W vs 236W. Still, the SR beats everything.
Thanks for excellent review. I had a 2021 M3 LR for 3 years, very satisfied but sold prior to warranty expiration, and will now consider a rear-wheel drive version purchase in May (do not need car in Winter). Hopefully the speakers can be upgraded for an extra cost, as was possible a couple of years ago. And thanks for the audio-comparison, valuable! Happy to hear (...) that the SR comes out well and better than the previous version.
you forget with the larger battery pack you charge is faster to get more miles as it trickle charge affect. I can get 220m in about 8 min where the standard will only get about 130 in the same amount of time. Most people forget about this.
Richard thank you for an excellent comparison. I am convinced that the highland SR is close enough in range compared with my 2021 Dual Motor LR. Any news on when we might get the adaptive matrix led headlights on the M3 in the UK?
Great video as usual… I would love to know if Tesla has fixed the auto wipers? I currently have a Model Y and the auto wipers drive me bonkers! Also a bit dangerous. Apart from that the car is great… well one other thing recently has happened the memory settings for the mirrors has stopped working properly. So, every time I drive the car I have to manually reset the mirrors. I am thinking of buying the the new model 3 or waiting for the new model Y. Many thanks 😊
Thank you for another great video Richard and Gints. The method you use to compare the cars is just perfect! Will be impossible for one person to do just as fair a test driving back to back, as there will be simply too many variables! The result that the SR starts with the same range at 100% as the LR does at 80% is, roughly as I expected, and I think really hits a sweet spot where it's a great argument for buying the SR, and getting an amazing value for money! If you have enough employees / friends, it would be cool to see the same test, but adding 2019 SR + LR as well as 2021 SR + LR (With 82kWh Panasonic battery) for an epic 6 car battle, that will help inform current Model 3 owners if an upgrade is worth it (Ignoring the 100s of improvements in the cars otherwise)
@@RSEV Ahh right, I got one of the last Fremont 82kWh Performance delivered in Denmark (2021), love it, but kind of considering adding an SR Highland to the family to replace my wife’s Mazda 2, although it’s kind of too much car for mostly city driving, but “Model 2” is taking its time, and Highland sure is comfy + kids will love the rear screen 😀
With how many times I’ve been to Tesla Ferndown in the last few weeks, I’m surprised we haven’t ran into each other. I drove that exact model 3 you were in shortly before you, so sorry if the seat was set really high 😂😂
You mean to LFP? Probably not for a few years. You understand that the energy density on the LFP is quite lower than with the NCx tech, so for the size, it is still not doable. The future is to use 55 and maybe 70 kWh with LFP but also to improve efficiency (lower computer consumption, better engines, etc), that way NCx could end. But I imagine it will take >5 years to get there.
This is an interesting and helpful film for me. I live about 2mins from where you started in Sainsbury’s car park. I work a lot in London and currently trying to work out which is best for me. My round trip is about 250 miles, so both cars would be fine but having never had an EV I’m suffering from range anxiety and leaning towards the long range model 3 or Y. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I would get the Long Range, if it was a one day round trip. Unless you have a slow charger at the destination to add some miles on the battery in London. Tomorrow I pickup my SR Model 3. I drove almost 5 years the LR AWD Model 3.
Great video guys, thanks! This is perfect as I was considering whether to go SR or LR once my current lease finishes… originally was thinking LR but then later thought with the efficiency improvements etc that SR would probably be fine and a lot cheaper… you’ve confirmed this for me today 😃
I can't compare with LR but my RWD 2024 has worst braking than AWD for sure, because when you are descending on a slippery road or zebra crossing the car can block the rear wheels with regen braking, and this is not an ABS task because brakes are without pressure. So the motor gives a little power to unlock the rear wheels and this is caotic.
There is also a long range but rear wheel drive which I think that it has the most range for a model 3. For me this is the sweet spot, long range and rear wheel drive. Can you do a comparison for those two, standard range and long range but both rear wheel drive?
Does anyone know if its worth preconditioning each day before I set off for work? I only do 12 miles there and back. But I wondered, apart from heating the cabin, is it worth using the battery to preheat so its more efficient when driving, or is it not worth it for a short drive?
In winter when things are frosty and snowy, it's a good idea to do that because you won't have to scrape the windows and such. But otherwise? You can do it for the sake of having a more comfortably warm car to sit in. But it's not necessary at all.
Hi Richard, great channel with really informative videos. I have a 2023 Model 3 Long Range RWD which I think would make for some interesting comparisons. Range in the summer was always 350 miles plus.
Great episode again highland Chief reviewer So far in a UK winter I’m getting consistent 212wh/m from the SR on 18 inch wheels imo that’s pretty good at the price point
The standard range is clearly the sensible option but if you need speed and your licence is not important then the long range is best although the extra range is tempting. I got the rwd model y after owning the Audi RS gt and before that the model 3 long range and I find the rwd model y brilliant!
One important benefit of the SR though: being a LFP battery means charging to 100% as a matter of routine which gives a day-to- day range comparable to the LR.
“ sure ‘bout that?” 😂
Exactly. No battery conservation regime required. >250 miles waiting on the driveway every morning. What's not to love about that?
I think I drove more than 250 miles in one stint a couple of times in the last 5 years (House-hunting in South West France, trying to get there from Newhaven-Dieppe to Bergerac as quickly as possible on the (beautiful) Autoroute). A realistic 250 miles plus an anxiety buffer of 30 miles suits me down to the ground for 99.999% of my driving.
It's a nice bonus, but then again who actually does a spontaneous 200+ mile trip on the fly without time to charge those last 10/20% first?
Good point. You can charge an LR to 100% just before a long trip, but not every day. I think the range of the SR is plenty for many people. I have an LR Model Y rather than an SR, but that is mostly because I wanted AWD.
I’ve been trying to find an answer to this, and the best I’ve found is that LFP batteries take a bigger hit in range and charging speeds in freezing temperatures compared to NMC batteries. But it’s tough to find any proper testing with exact data and numbers. Anyway, my point being that despite the advantage you mentioned, LFP battery range might not actually be that good in cold weather.
Interesting review. I currently have a 3.5 year old Model 3 Long Range. One thing I consider is the residual value after say 4 years of ownership. The LR should be worth more when I come to sell it. Maybe 4k more? Therefore over the 4 years, the ‘real’ cost is an extra 6k that would give me faster 0-60, longer range, better stereo and 4WD. Plus the battery range will degrade over time so the real world range will remain stronger. On this basis I’d go for LR again. Happy to be challenged on these numbers!
I heard the LFP battery on the SR degrades slower than the battery on the LR so I actually think they'll end up the same value in 4-5 years. But yeah this is just speculation.
Very useful! Saving the 10k!
Thanks to converting to kWh/100 km
I’ve got a Model Y LR and have been using an i4 and Polestar 2 for work for approx 5k miles each. Just had the new Model 3 RWD for a week demo. It’s incredible and definitely the best value car on the market
Having done about 200 mile testing on the Highland SR the fact that it will outrange my 2020 M3P supposed "Long Range AWD" by some margin just shows you how much things have changed in the land of Tesla efficiency 😅 Still love it though, but credit where credit is due!
Only Plaid Teslas are true AWD. The LR RWD with traction control for the front only - rear wheels have to slip to engage.
Why is everyone calling it highland? It's doesn't call that, even Elon said it doesn't call highland
@@i.d.6492 Its because the new model 3 refresh was codenamed "highland" by tesla, basically jargon people like to use to sound smarter than people who don't understand it
@@jalenloveslegos no it was not, where did you get thd info, Elon himself said it was never called "highland" yall just making shit up😂
@@i.d.6492 Cool story bro
In my Highland LR, I drove around country roads in Wales at the speed limits of mostly 50/60 with the usual 30mph villages, at 10°C with 60% charge and ended up with 191Wh per mile, or a calculated range of 393 miles, which is a bit crazy…
220Wh per mile on the motorway…
Wow that’s efficient drivetrain ..
Impressive! Good regen from the front motor? Richard noted in the video the SR had less regen.
Mc, its 20 mph in the villages.
Oops not much Wales, mainly Shropshire!
I have gotten range estimates of around 460 miles driving around flat areas in my Ioniq 6...In the California mountains it drops down to 420 sadly
It is a shame that the cheaper car has the inferior audio.
Great comparison Richard.
Awesome, thanks for mentioning the audio in SR !
SR has no subwoofer?? Is it easy to add one?
Even though the visual improvements of the new 3 are subtle they have vastly improved the looks of this car. It looks really, really good!
Thanks for doing this comparison, it looks like the standard range is a good increase and near 300 mile in the real world tests. I would choose the standard range as it is not often that I need the extra range and it would be far quicker than my current Kia E Niro.
Definitely worth getting the standard range for my personal preference,not to mention in summer 5mile per kWh would easily be achievable,cheers guys 👍😉💪
Switched from 22 m3p to 24 lr. 24 lr is the best car i've driven. Highland is a totally different experience. I love it. Definitely recommend it.
Thankyou for another great video, keep up the good work, haven't found anyone else who give such clear analysis with a complete unbias . I wish you guys all the best.
Thanks Richard and team another great video. The SR is all the car I would need as it enables me to drive home non stop (most of the time) from my daughter near Chester and Gatwick. I also road trip once a year to my son in Zurich so I’d probably only need charge Reims and Nancy in summertime.
Good video, I have been waiting for this one. I have the 2022 LFP and as proven on my tests on my channel, I get 280+ miles in half decent weather at normal motorway speeds on long journeys. The RWD is more efficient. Big advantage is charge to 100% each time. I think for £10k less, the LR is a ‘hard sell’ for most. My 2022 RWD is a fantastic car, I prefer it to my 2018 S. I drive everywhere no issue, distance is not a problem in the RWD. Looks like the new one may get slightly more miles, but not much.
I actually find the audio in my 2022 RWD fantastic, better than the enhanced audio in the S. Nice to hear this one may be even better.
Boring
Day to day normal driving you won't notice a difference. But as soon as you know in advance that you need to do a longer trip, you can charge the LR to 100%, and get a lot more range. So if you're doing quite some longer drives, I would still recommend the LR.
@@wavesnowaves the LG long range battery is poop. garbage battery pack. charges very slow after 30 percent its not a good road tripper if it doesnt charge quick. the ioniq 6 charges way faster im not comparing them but comparing the lg battery to last model 3 Panasonic its different. charging curve is bad
not sold on the longevity of the LFP. Tesla switched to this battery during the chip shortage, put it in the cheapest Tesla, and all of a sudden it became the “most durable battery”. If they really thought that, why is the battery warranty only 100k miles compared to the long range 120k mile warranty?
Yep. See my reply to your previous post.
The LFP batteries are superior to the NMC batteries in every way. They are taking the solar industry by storm. They will charge 6000 cycles or 16.4 years if you charge every day, while maintaining 80 - 90% of its capacity. NMC batteries are inferior by comparison.
Does the driving experience, specifically regarding regenerative braking, differ noticeably between the Long Range and Standard Range models?
It’s not as strong in the red, obviously. Mentioned that in video. But still very similar experience
Thanks Rich@@RSEV
I have the ‘old’ SR with LFP and leave home with 260@100% charge, it suites me fine
Another great video Richard, great comparison . I love watching your videos.
Does the SR use LFP over there as well? If so, 80% of LR and 100% of SR (The recommended charge limits) are almost identical.
Yes, but its safe to charge the LR to 100% during longer journeys, just minimize the frequency of it. It´s fine once in a while when going on a 500 km trip.
Is it correct that SR comes with LFP batteries, and LR does not? If so, the real everyday range is the same for you can routinely charge the LFP batteries to 100% while NCA batteries recommended charge level is 80%. 352*0.8=281. Your projected range is 286 miles for SR, so in fact it can drive even longer! Battery degradation is expected to be lower for the LFPs as well...
Yes LFP and my range calcs use pro rate 100-0%
Yes but with the LR you keep the limit set to 80% for when you drive locally and when you go on a road trip you can charge to 100% and get the full range and that will result in less degradation.
Thank you Richard for a real world comparison proving that both versions are vastly more efficient than its rivals. A certain well known motoring magazine should take tips from you guys on how to compare
Lol they are not
@@Aztasu Which EV is more efficient?
Thanks for this. And a mini review of the audio as the premium sound is not available on the SR. Very impressive range for a 57 or so kWh battery.
It is actually a 55 kWh battery,I've asked Tesla myself
Nice comparison test video. My nephew is all fired up to get a Tesla M3 of some description. Thing is, he can't make his mind up if he wants a used 2023 M3 LR or Std or New 2024 model. They are becoming very affordable now Used with decent low-ish mileage. My opinion? Seriously, if a Highland is going to put you badly out of pocket, a used heat pump model M3 is very appealing. Especially if you've never been that used to a Tesla, as he hasn't. Though he has test driven both those 2023 options now and loves them both, but also loves the sharper looks of the 2024s.
Send him to Richard!
@@rogerstarkey5390 I did suggest it.
Thanks for doing this video, SR is the one for me. 286M give or take is decent and living in London will give me access to super charging is I need to, whilst being to charge at home too. Thanks for mentioning the audio too!
You are not going to get 286M on long trips or short trips whilst using the heater a lot in London. Don't expect that. This is pretty much the besdt you will get out of the car.
@@AirElectricAppso what do you think? 250?
@@BigRobLandanHard to give a number as it depends on many things. On a zero C to negative C Weather day, with short runs in London, a lot of stopngo with a cold battery - your best bet would be about 160miles from 100% to 0%. In a normal winter day if you don't abuse the heater a lot, with StopNGo, maybe 200miles. Maybe less. With the heater off maybe 220 miles. You will also have to factor in things like sentry if you use it (this drains the battery while parked - it is best not to use it when you don't really need it). In the summer 280miles would be possible in the city as a max range.
Driving in London use roughly 240-290Wh, driving m25 about 215Wh
So what’s point of LR then if your recommended to charge to 80% most of the time? Would the range at 80% on LR match or there abouts 100% charge of Sr? So get the LR if you going to lots of long journeys but it’s recommended not to charge to beyond 80% often. Understanding EVs is tough, maybe just stick to my diesel car 😂😂
Great video just what we needed ! Cheers guys best Ev channel on RUclips
Best electric car channel on RUclips. If I buy a second hand Tesla - it’ll be from these guys. Worth the extra k or so compared tonautotrader
🤝👍 thanks for such nice words
For company car and for people who drive long distance very often, the LR model worth the extra £10k. Also, in countries with snow, the AWD LR could be crucial.
For me, the SR Highland consumes 14% battery during a 70km daily commute. I got 3,500km in 2 months and the avergae consumption is 12,9kwh/100km. That's 450km range on a single charge in average. I've not used superchargers yet. Only charging in my garage at 16A 3,6kw/h (slowest possible wall charger). I don't even need an expensive higher capacity wall charger. In 8 hours during the night it charges 45% which covers 3 days of my commute. I've already saved over €200 on petrol. Insurance a little bit higher but there's no road tax and annual maintenance. So for people like me it's a no brainer to have an EV. Fast, quite, comfortable, cheap to run.
Thanks for the video, it shows I've made the right decision with the SR 😊
I am mostly concerned about the audio, but glad to hear its not that much different. My current car doesn't have "premium" audio anyway. Just waiting for delivery of highland. Cheers
At motorway speeds it kinda misses the bass and depth from the back, but it’s pretty decent really
Is the LR going to survive? Especially if a performance variant comes out.
Really tough decision. I like added surity of 4WD but longevity if you buy outright maybe better with LFP?
I have an SR and I don’t think I could justify the long range and I’ve done 68,000 miles in 20 months so I’ve tested it thoroughly!
Thanks Richard. I currently own LR model 3. When I drove the new SR highland, I was blown away! It’s far superior to the previous LR model 3. It’s very fast, very quiet, very sleek, luxurious and beautiful to behold. 👏🏾🕺🏾👍🏾🥰Thank you Tesla.
The LR should have an 82kwh battery (75 usable), and it is not 4WD, it is AWD. The car is mostly rear wheel drive, the front motor is used for regenerative braking, during heavy acceleration and when the road is slippery.
If the road is not slippery and you are accelerating mildly in a straight line, it should not matter at all which motor is pulling - it should be the more efficient one for the speed, conditions.
Quite aware of what drives what but try and balance how much Info to put into video.
FYI it’s 79kwh. Could be 82kwh in Europe but we’ve never had that for LR in the UK. We had 82 in performance for a bit before they also went 79kwh
Ridefinement is important 😉 Standard Range seems like more than enough car for most people. Good test 👍🏻
Good comparison. Thanks for finding the opportunities and posting.
Based on that test, LR would have 453 km at 80% (max. recommended daily charge level) and SR would be 460 km at 100%. So you would start each day with the same range and lose only in longer journeys. SR is a beast for its price.
Totally true. But to have an extra 20% available to you when on long trips it’s a pretty big booster
@@RSEV You get that 20% boost for the first leg. After that, you are likely charging only to the what you can fast charge until you finally get to your destination. It's not clear to me what that means in absolute miles but I heard it argued it closes the gap even further.
@@Lost_In_LAIt can also be the difference in having to stop for a charge or not on trips between 270 and 290 miles approximately.
Is the SR not on LFP and the LR on NMC. So the SR "should" have a longer lifespan on the battery than the LR (if the charged the same)
How does suspension compare to each other?
Same. Rwd does feel a little lighter at the front of course but ride comfort very similar
Good to know. Looks like for both AWD and RWD, the multi link suspension on the rear makes a big difference compared to the outgoing M3. Appreciate your response!
Bought an early Polestar2 2020 as Tesla demos at that time had bits falling off. Couldn’t cope with hard ride and sold it early on. These reviews are making me think time to revisit with increased comfort build quality.. and the network of course.
This video makes me confident to buy the rwd and save some money. Thank you! :)
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Couple of questions, is this relevant to the model y too? Are the differences the same?
At what trim level do you get privacy glass in either 3 or y?
We have the Highland SR Model 3 and plug it in every evening to trickle charge it to 100%. Given that the LR should only be charged to 80% and that otherwise they are almost identical, I struggle to find a reason for the extra cost.
Maybe if one day the LR gets LFP batteries to unlock the full range on a daily basis, but for now it doesn't seem all that attractive to me.
Why the need to charge to 100%? I know you can with the LFP but if you aren't driving 250 miles per day then it wouldn't make sense.
Spectacular. I’m considering buying one and realizing the difference of what is delivered in relation to the price is really very important. Thank you very much for the video.
Great video again Richard! Btw, isn’t the charging speeds also different between the two cars?
Test drove the RWD today sound system is incredible very impressive and a big improvement over my 2022 rwd
Do not test drive the long range if you’re considering the SR
Ok i own a Tesla 2022 RWD, and i love the sound system. And you say its a BIG improvement? :) LOL it's better for myself probably to NOT drive the Highland to keep myself happy and keep the money in the pocket.
@@HermanWillems If you have kids don't forget to teach them about the emergency exit in the rear as it is like no other car. And if power goes have them jump the front seat as there's no way in to the rear from the outside.
@@twotone3871 no kids. Sorry. Wish i had them though. Not easy to find a decent woman to actually start a family with. Money is easy. Woman are difficult.
@@Skeetskeet333why not?
Exactly what I needed to know. THANKS!
Another amazing video!
tested the LR which pitches and yaws a tad too much for my taste during hard acceleration and braking. Is the SR better due to it being less powerful and lighter?
Isn’t there now a long range rear wheel drive , at £45,000 ? . Have you a video for this one ???
Great review Richard, I was interested to see this one.
Low consumption so great efficiency, but low average speed 84km/h 52.19Mi/h . Overall great Car . Greetings from Spain
Just searched for this, nice timing:)
The long range is a bit of a weird proposition, you cannot really justify buying it given the price difference. I am glad Tesla made the standard range so good, I think all in all it is a positive for consumers. Would love a standard range with the bigger battery though and only a 4k increase or something.
This. The figures the RWD is pulling now from my own testing if I got another one Id seriously consider it over a LR or P the efficiency is rediculous. They are quick enough.
@@gfusionif you drove the long range for a few months then drove the Std range I believe you would change your mind
@@trevorshields7347Only if you are an aggressive driver.
Great comparison, thanks Richard and Gints. SR for me; a better battery and my bladder can’t last the extra 120kms🤣Best regards Martin
What is better exactly on a battery that barely get more efficiency against a heavier car with an extra motor?
@@napobg6842you didn't watch the video huh? You can charge it to 100% daily.
@@TalReviews Yes, you can, if you want to ruin your battery
How good does it look in red 😍
If you never plan to leave "town" and road trip, standard 100%. But if you think you will take road trips and plan to keep the car for 3-5 years or more I'd say LR all the way. It all adds up over time in my opinion. Resale is better as well
If you daily charge the LR to 80% and the Std range to 100%, there's no difference in range. And the LFP battery IMO is better for longevity. I'm at 95,000 km on our 2022 Std range model 3 with only 7 km range loss.
If it were better for longevity, why would Tesla give you 120k warranty on LR and 100k on SR?
@antoinepageau8336 What is your charge habit then? I have found a discussion on RUclips were the range loss is like 5 to 7% with LFP at 50,000 to 100,000 km. I had a Model 3 LR till last week and at 80,000km with a loss with 3.5%. I charge to 80% and don't go down mostly below 10%. On long trips I go to 100% (top it off from 80% to 100% just before I leave). And leave it between 40 to 65%, when I don't drive it for a few days. Everybody says that LFP can charge without loose to 100%. But if you leave that LFP battery at 100% more than 1 days, that can't be good for the battery. Or leave it at 10% for a long time.
After owning a 2020 long range I think I’d always go standard range in the future despite regularly doing 400 mile round trips.
Unless you want the dual motor, £10k is a lot just to save a few supercharges at stops I would do anyway
Best Tesla reviews, awesome video again. Thank you
In Iceland, where we have snowy (sometimes a lot) and icy conditions for 4-5 months every year the AWD Long Range is preferably needed for traction and there are not that many Tesla Chargers in Iceland. And btw, its safe to charge the Long Range up to 100% for longer journeys but minimize the frequency of it and do not keep the car at 100% charge like you actually can with the SR
I would like to know about the performance of the model, what is the difference in range
Nice comparison! Thank you guys...very informative!! Cheers!
How much difference is there on lease prices between the two as most company cars are leased?
I've had my standard range Tesla Y for one year. The reason I went for the standard range was the LFP battery. 100% charging. No fire risk. Much longer battery life.
The standard range has come so far. Early ones did 253 claimed I think from memory? This one 286 real world driving! Great car for 40k
Original one was 160 miles winter and 220 at best really unless trying, still great cars because the Tesla network is so easy
the original SR+ showed 240 miles EPA in the car when I bought it. 254 was the WLTP figure. 220 was doable at 65 in summer with climate on auto. 160 winter as RSEV says here would be also at 65 in winter, as heating is mighty inefficient in them pre-heat pump cars in comparison
The late 2021/ early 2022 was when it made the leap. The LFP and bigger battery, heat pump etc. I have a 2022 LFP and in decent weather can squeeze over 280 miles on motorway trips at around 70mph.
Great video. I don't own an electric car but would i be correct in saying that nobody drives the full range of the battery? So if you wanted to plug in the least amount of times it would probably only meaning using 70 - 80% of the full capacity?
Great videos and reviews of the new Highland. I’m struggling to connect to Intelligent octopus, any advice on how to add a virtual key (on the Tesla app) to allow connectivity to the Octopus app ?? 🙏🏼
Hello! Can you change the display lights in the model 3 from one color to RGB? Multicolor
Do both versions come with car mats?
Thanks for this very interesting video. It's the Dual Motor for me, but in the Model Y. Can I ask how you get on with the indicator buttons, especially when leaving a roundabout? I haven't had a chance to try the new design interior yet
I got used to the buttons after 2 days, all good
Does charging speed also make a difference for road trips?
For sure. But these both charge very fast.
Great video, thanks Richard. SR is a great car. Looking at the efficiency of the LR in the video, a quick note to share what I got out of my 2020 LR (Gen 1, no heat pump) driving one week the exact same distance and route, at about 7C outside temp, at max legal speed , climate at 20C, distance of 79 miles (M3 - M27 - A31), I returned 236W/mile. Did the same route with heating off and returned 229W/mile so not a big difference with/without heating on. You can see the difference between Gen 1 and Highland: 211W vs 236W. Still, the SR beats everything.
Thanks for excellent review. I had a 2021 M3 LR for 3 years, very satisfied but sold prior to warranty expiration, and will now consider a rear-wheel drive version purchase in May (do not need car in Winter). Hopefully the speakers can be upgraded for an extra cost, as was possible a couple of years ago. And thanks for the audio-comparison, valuable! Happy to hear (...) that the SR comes out well and better than the previous version.
70 miles extra would be a massive benefit if you don't have access to home charging.
you forget with the larger battery pack you charge is faster to get more miles as it trickle charge affect. I can get 220m in about 8 min where the standard will only get about 130 in the same amount of time. Most people forget about this.
Wow. Both cars are super efficient.
Yes they are!
Does the long range ride better than the standard range? Or both have same comfort?
Very similar. If anything Sara typically ride better but with highland they’re very similar
Always enjoy your videos and thank you very much for the conversion to metric.
Richard thank you for an excellent comparison. I am convinced that the highland SR is close enough in range compared with my 2021 Dual Motor LR. Any news on when we might get the adaptive matrix led headlights on the M3 in the UK?
Looking forward to this one!
Great video as usual… I would love to know if Tesla has fixed the auto wipers? I currently have a Model Y and the auto wipers drive me bonkers! Also a bit dangerous. Apart from that the car is great… well one other thing recently has happened the memory settings for the mirrors has stopped working properly. So, every time I drive the car I have to manually reset the mirrors. I am thinking of buying the the new model 3 or waiting for the new model Y. Many thanks 😊
No they haven’t, they’re shit
Does the standard range still give you that ‘wow’ when putting your foot down that the long range does?
Thank you for another great video Richard and Gints. The method you use to compare the cars is just perfect! Will be impossible for one person to do just as fair a test driving back to back, as there will be simply too many variables! The result that the SR starts with the same range at 100% as the LR does at 80% is, roughly as I expected, and I think really hits a sweet spot where it's a great argument for buying the SR, and getting an amazing value for money!
If you have enough employees / friends, it would be cool to see the same test, but adding 2019 SR + LR as well as 2021 SR + LR (With 82kWh Panasonic battery) for an epic 6 car battle, that will help inform current Model 3 owners if an upgrade is worth it (Ignoring the 100s of improvements in the cars otherwise)
We only got the 82kwh in performance versions and never in the LR, unlike rest of Europe.
We got LR 75kwh until 2022 then 79kwh
@@RSEV Ahh right, I got one of the last Fremont 82kWh Performance delivered in Denmark (2021), love it, but kind of considering adding an SR Highland to the family to replace my wife’s Mazda 2, although it’s kind of too much car for mostly city driving, but “Model 2” is taking its time, and Highland sure is comfy + kids will love the rear screen 😀
With how many times I’ve been to Tesla Ferndown in the last few weeks, I’m surprised we haven’t ran into each other. I drove that exact model 3 you were in shortly before you, so sorry if the seat was set really high 😂😂
Awesome diff presentations, thanks!
Yay, I love your range tests. Thanks for showing the differences. I wonder how long it'll be till they upgrade the LR battery 🤔
You mean to LFP? Probably not for a few years. You understand that the energy density on the LFP is quite lower than with the NCx tech, so for the size, it is still not doable.
The future is to use 55 and maybe 70 kWh with LFP but also to improve efficiency (lower computer consumption, better engines, etc), that way NCx could end. But I imagine it will take >5 years to get there.
@@ricarmigM3P is a variant of LFP is coming that based on LFP with added element from NCA. I think already used on Performance battery
This is an interesting and helpful film for me. I live about 2mins from where you started in Sainsbury’s car park. I work a lot in London and currently trying to work out which is best for me. My round trip is about 250 miles, so both cars would be fine but having never had an EV I’m suffering from range anxiety and leaning towards the long range model 3 or Y. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I would get the Long Range, if it was a one day round trip. Unless you have a slow charger at the destination to add some miles on the battery in London. Tomorrow I pickup my SR Model 3. I drove almost 5 years the LR AWD Model 3.
Great video guys, thanks! This is perfect as I was considering whether to go SR or LR once my current lease finishes… originally was thinking LR but then later thought with the efficiency improvements etc that SR would probably be fine and a lot cheaper… you’ve confirmed this for me today 😃
What model is best to do 200km total commute 3 times a week?
I like it how this is a real-world test which has regen, charging, same weather conditions etc.
Very informative and helpful. Thanks gents.
I believe SR has RWD therefore the steering wheel feels better than LR which has dual motor. Do you think so, too?
I can't compare with LR but my RWD 2024 has worst braking than AWD for sure, because when you are descending on a slippery road or zebra crossing the car can block the rear wheels with regen braking, and this is not an ABS task because brakes are without pressure. So the motor gives a little power to unlock the rear wheels and this is caotic.
There is also a long range but rear wheel drive which I think that it has the most range for a model 3. For me this is the sweet spot, long range and rear wheel drive. Can you do a comparison for those two, standard range and long range but both rear wheel drive?
Does anyone know if its worth preconditioning each day before I set off for work? I only do 12 miles there and back. But I wondered, apart from heating the cabin, is it worth using the battery to preheat so its more efficient when driving, or is it not worth it for a short drive?
In winter when things are frosty and snowy, it's a good idea to do that because you won't have to scrape the windows and such.
But otherwise? You can do it for the sake of having a more comfortably warm car to sit in. But it's not necessary at all.
Hi Richard, great channel with really informative videos. I have a 2023 Model 3 Long Range RWD which I think would make for some interesting comparisons. Range in the summer was always 350 miles plus.
2:18 does it have hardware 4 now, are you sure?
As long as you don’t need AWD the SR is great. In cold temperatures (-10C and less) the LR is the one to get.
you didnt show the grey panel on the standard version, the one with alcantara in the long range
Great episode again highland Chief reviewer So far in a UK winter I’m getting consistent 212wh/m from the SR on 18 inch wheels imo that’s pretty good at the price point
The standard range is clearly the sensible option but if you need speed and your licence is not important then the long range is best although the extra range is tempting. I got the rwd model y after owning the Audi RS gt and before that the model 3 long range and I find the rwd model y brilliant!