They are fleecing you. They charged an hour's Labour for every job but a lot of them don't take that long. They charged an hour for the rest drive that probably took 15 minutes.
@@sargfowler9603 he's talking nonsense, nearly any garage could have carried out that work and been a heck of a lot cheaper... but suppose that doesn't get the click bait views in
@@g.d2450Not nonsense. Many garages won't work on EVs, even if it's just normal car stuff. Their insurance doesn't cover EVs and they don't have the high voltage training.
@@MCSMIK Yes, I had a rear light door whilst I was supercharging ( I asked the tech and he did it there and then) It cost £12 in labour I think with a 0.15x on the hourly rate or something like that.
Honestly, that suspension work could have easily been done at home on the drive on jack stands, it's pretty basic stuff. So the fact that a normal garage refused to do it is strange! The only part of the repair that was EV specific was the charge port, the rest is standard ICE car stuff!
Apparently, we're told that you can't work on EV's yourself and local garages will go bust. They certainly will if they can't be bothered to do non electrical stuff. Oh wait, it's because they have to be worked on outside, 15m from anything flammable and needs everyone suited up in rubber overalls. Man down the pub who has a mate whose cousin has one said something about it! 😂
Exactly. Garages refuse to work on EVs as if they aren't 80% mechanically identical to other cars. Suspension, shock absorbers, hinges, seals, axles, locks, 12-volt circuitry, etc., etc. Only the motor, battery and anything connected to high voltage requires special knowledge beyond ICE car maintenance. And any competent mechanic could learn that in a few days.The IMI Level 4 EV Qualification for Diagnosis, Testing and Repair of EVs is a three day course.
@@trevorberridge6079You're not wrong but I do believe it's the insurance that is an issue, unless they do the 10 day HV course. I also think there's a certain amount of FUD involved when it comes to EVs and normal mechanics.
@@djtaylorutubeThe cars don’t automatically explode just because you replace a brake pad. I’d still avoid charging in an inclosed area and definitely don’t put damaged ones in shipping containers.
For an ex company 'thrasher' with nearly 200k miles on it, £3k to fix iback to a very good standard is very good. about 8 years ago, had a V8 Biturbo ML Mercedes, which between 100k and 110k miles, required over £10k's worth of maintenance doing. That 75D good for another 100k+ miles at least.
Why hasn't this channel got more than 100k subscribers? Sensible advice and more interesting car reviews than most of the others. Thanks for the content this year and best wishes for Christmas and 2025.
Have a great Christmas and thank you for all the information and entertainment you have provided me for the past nine years! Looking forward to watching more in the new year as the best!
Incidentally - I once bought an Aston DB7 because it was within reach. I dropped it a AM for the free new owner check over - no work, just the check. Hazard a guess??? £9k for what would be about £600 on a Ford Focus. Fixed it properly with OEM grade aftermarket parts for about 1k. Sold it due to a FUBAR aftermarket immobiliser issue. Wish I’d never laid eyes on it. Upshot is your OEM Tesla grand total seems perfectly fair for such a good tool!! 😂
A full refurb should be around £300. I paid £360 for my alloys to be made like new and had a colour change too. But that was nice of your viewer. As for the repairs, use EVCleevly. They come to you and are cheaper and better than Tesla. I’ve just had a rattle (quite loud and got worse over time) repaired by EVC. They replaced both my air struts (Einbach) for £2k, Tesla wanted £5k for the same job.
Keep it, there is still more of the story this car can tell. I think when you consider its mileage a 4K bill to get it back to best is pretty good and wonder how much it would cost for a non EV to maintain it to 190k miles?? Tesla service seemed a bit poor though
Five days to clean a car. WOW, just WOW. Five minutes is too long for me. Once a quarter mine gets taken to a wash where it is jetted all over. Job done. I cannot think of a more 'cruel and unusual' punishment than cleaning a car when you know a 5 minute drive later it will look exactly as dirty as it did before it was washed. Madness. That aside I always use Michelin tyres as well. Maintenance with quality parts is important. Not looking grubby matters not a jot.
Totally agree, I'm a car lover, but I hate cleaning my cars. I'll just take mine to my local polish car wash. Though these are a really good one, though cheap at £9 for a wash. They use good practices and they are a family, no employees so they do it with pride.
I put one of my cars in for a full detail, which included Decon wash, 3 stage machine polish,engine bay,interior,wheel refurb,a bit of P.D.R.work and a ceramic coating applied. it was in for 2 weeks solid. I have done my last 3 cars myself and I average about 5 days. So I can totally relate to this.
Those labour costs are Jaguar/Land Rover sort of numbers and very cheeky indeed. Highlights the need for independent garages to get themselves trained up and familiar with EVs though. It shows that most of what needs doing on these cars is meat-and-potatoes spanner work that an good mechanic can do and doesn't involve the angry pixies at all.
A really sound idea but the cost of tooling up, astronomical insurance hike and training in high voltage safety would make it unviable for most independent garages.
@@ElectricVehicleManGood point but could you sell it and arrange with the new owner to follow up on it. In exchange they get a top guy for advice should they need it. If they are prepared to talk about on it either on or off camera even better. That could be a way of extending the interest in your channel out. For example - hey guys remember this one it's finally changing hands again let's chat to the seller and keep our fingers crossed that the new buyer will come on board also. So madam you have bought a 10 year old Tesla blah blah
To answer your question: A Tesla Model S 75D in something akin to nearly new condition with at least 88% battery SOH for £15,000 outlay is an absolute bargain. It had an RRP of £75,000 when launched. 20% the original price with circa 90% of the range and most of it's performance remaining. No brainer of the century.
@@Dogtagnan Depreciation is irrelevant. Every car loses value the moment you buy it. On average in the UK the first year sees up to 20% depreciation and then 10% every year after that. That means that in six years you lose 70% of the car's value. The average age of a licensed vehicle is nine by which time your car is effectively worthless. Anything you can get for it is a bonus. And some vehicles are licensed for up to 12 years (as was the last ICE car I owned from new). So most people that intend to keep their car lose value on it. It makes no difference to most people buying new, but it makes cars (ANY type of car) more affordable to the 91% of owners who DON'T buy new. Depreciation is just another false argument against EVs. Ironically, it was only a few years ago that used Teslas were selling for MORE than new ones because people were so eager to get their hands on one. And even original Nissan Leafs have sold at 10 years of age and only depreciated by 50% of their value. So sometimes the trend with EVs is to depreciate LESS than ICE cars or even GAIN value.
I’m thinking (I would 😂😂😂) a swap for my 2015 P85D 165175 miles as of today. Has SC01 so might actually work out good for you plus will be £20 road tax, you can even keep the wheels you have. Plus at 200k you can have to do the review.
The inner wear on the tyre happens when the air suspension in on the lowest setting and the alignment hasn’t been done properly. It’s common on the model s & x
Thank you for such a great EV channel. Amongst a small group of others you’ve converted me to EV, proudly driving an MG5SE on Ohme/Octopus, I’ve taken the plunge and ordered a 2021 Mii EV for her indoors. Happy Christmas EVM and yours, from us down south. Keep it up - I’ll be chipping in a few ££ as soon as I can find the linky! BTW I still have an ICE RV, bike and classic MG - but EV is the way for the daily drivers.
Na most people think it's 10 years, meanwhile I'm still driving my 2003 358,000 mile Citroen C5. EVs are shite they only last 10 years so if you're a low mileage driver cooked your not going to spend thousands on a new battery the things will be scrapped, meanwhile diesel, petrol and hybrids (cheaper smaller batteries)keep going year after year.
@@brendanc5519 Cars in the UK are scrapped after about 14 years on average though. Most do not see past about 150,000 miles. You are the exception not the rule. Can they be kept going with maintenance, yes but it becomes cost prohibitive to do so. EV batteries are dropping in price year over year, and more garages will do repairs rather than replace.
@@usefulrandom1855 a replacement battery is cost prohibitive is it not? EV has its place, but certainly not for all, and they should not be forced upon us. We have both EV and ICE, our choice because it makes sense for us, but there is no one size fits all EV.
It would be interesting to know how much the previous owner spent on repairs. If that’s the only paid repairs in 185,000 miles I’d say it’s a bargain and well worth it.
I have an S75 and what's amazing about it is it's storage capacity, you need to take it on a trip and show how much you can put it and how little it affects range.
Isn't it the Leaf that started the missinformation on battery life? Because it isnt actively temp controlled it cooks the batreries? Modern cars all have active conditioning systems so should last way longer.
I’m on my 2nd M3 and we now have an E Corsa. In the new year Octopus 🐙 are putting in an air pump and I’m removing my gas boiler and hob! After that I’m going for solar and battery pack. Much of this adoption is down to your number crunching, educational videos and honest shared insights! Happy Christmas EVM, way to go!
I like these cars, although electric vehicles are out of my price range and I lack the ability to charge at home, but your reviews are always sensible, you point out the pros and cons of all vehicles, good and fair reviews. I've followed these videos, this has been a good review I've enjoyed watching and following the progress of this vehicle If I had access to home charging, and obviously the money to buy one, I would consider one of these. I am no good with technology, it's not just electric vehicles, but all modern vehicles are going to screens which I have zero knowledge of, as another RUclipsr said, I'm a cabbage because I don't understand technology that I've never been taught, that though does put me off modern vehicles. I personally would keep the vehicle as it's so practical, it's got loads of load space, plenty of space for passengers as to be fair, mileage on modern day vehicles whether electric or combustion engined doesn't matter much unless you're selling a vehicle, another RUclipsr bought a Tesla with close to half a million on the clock, it's how well the vehicles are looked after, how well they're maintained as to how long they last, I drive a 799cc, 3 cylinder diesel, it's 13 years old, covered 160,000 miles and still keeps on running, but it's serviced twice a year, regularly maintained, if it needs doing, I get it done if I can't do it myself, when I bought it back in 2011, everyone said, you'll be lucky to see 80,000 miles out of that, it won't last 10 years, I've got another 10 years to retirement (hopefully, if the government doesn't change it), I hope the car will keep going until I retire in 2034
Worth spending the money you did. This is the right way with older cars, they can cover high mileage and last many years if kept in good order. Even when the costs exceed the market value there is still value in the service the car will give you.
Except maybe for “consumables”. I had some no name tyres recommended by a chain owned by one of this channels sponsors. That 3L SUV stuck to the road like 💩 to a blanket.
so long as it is reliable and you feel happy with the car keep it definitely, looks ok to me i used to run company cars with big mileages and the dealers slowly replaced suspension and water pump,alternator etc the lease company where not happy at the spend but they wouldnt recall it early ,hi to Hertz and Lex leasing
Also, you MUST keep an eye on motor bearings. When they start to whine, replace immediately! You will have to find a good independent service for that, as Tesla can't replace bearings without discarding motors. Driving wise Tesla is the only brand that offers benefits of electrics - performance, acceleration and comfort.
72 plate MG5 20k on the clock 2nd hand bargain - SOH 96.8% - 200mile range in winter, so more than enough for my needs. Love your work and detail big man.
£165 for every entry on the system lol. I bet all those £165s were just made up and the genuine time spent on car was a lot lower. This is the reason I don't use main dealers, I had exactly the same issue with the steering wheel after a dealer a serviced my car once and did the alignment thing.
Fantastic way to buy a car - getting it to 200k and doing a decent battery health check sounds like a good idea, it would be interesting to know how the tyres are wearing after the suspension and alignment work from the dealership. 👍
If you've got a bit of mechanical knowledge, you can save a few quid on basic servicing. I've just done complete brake job on our model 3 with 100k miles on it. Cabin filters, wipers brake fluid swap. Save plenty.
The reflector on my charge door was hit by a large hailstone and cracked, so as it is a separate part to the door itself and just cosmetic, I contacted Tesla…. so it is still cracked because I refuse to have Tesla fit an entire charger, as they told me they would need to do, because they dont supply just the reflector and that is stupid.
@ I have just requested a service appointment to diagnose a DC charging warning. Tesla are sending a mobile tech to my house on Monday morning to fix it and a few recall items eg. boot strut O ring at the same time. It’s probably a matter of time vs cost and time is more expensive than some components, so it’s quicker to chuck some things away, than to repair them. That’s how things are designed these days.
Not too bad all things considered really! But one thing… Have a look and tell us. Are the majority of those £165 appear as… £165 x 0.5 i.e. half an hours work instead of a full hour. As that’s what I saw on my receipts from the past from Tesla
Never been convinced by high mileage cars, ice or ev. I think you have proved my theory of being wary. It sounded like you have already decided to sell and think you are right, risky keeping longer as still possibly other issues down the line.
That figure seems reasonable for a car with such a high mileage. Remember how much youve saved on fuel (at least £3000 a year £60 a week). Such a high mileage on a fuel car would have meant new engine or major replacement parts and possibly a new gearbox etc etc)
Really enjoyed your content here and your earlier material on the model S. Am not a subscriber but if you were to do a few more pieces on living with this car and its pros and cons then you will earn my subscription.
You mentioned that new tyres would raise the value of the car. I popped my car into a trade-in form on Cinch as a test (so basically WBAC), and got less than I expect; I wonder how likely it'd be that they'd raise their valuation if they realised the car had relatively new Michelins and not, say, Landsails or possibly (as seen in this video) Delintes? Probably not likely at all. Also, an AutoExpress article popped up on my phone earlier called "Unsure about electric cars? Don’t let others make up your mind" which I feel is definitely targeted more at the negative attitudes towards EVs. Just... avoid the comments on there, I've no idea what's happening.
Not that I would ever spend 15k on any car, but a 15k spend on this looks good value to me. At least you know now what you have got under you. Interesting fee structure, which would seem to be a 'per hour or part thereof' applied to each individual job rather than the work as a whole. Probably common in main dealers and manufacturer operations? As you might guess from my comment on 15k breaking my purchase limit, it's been several decades since I last used a dealer for servicing....
18:16 Model S Suspension kits and upgrades are ready available - did you not think of doing it yourself? - is not a hard thing to do and the parts are better quality than Telsa while being cheaper - it is a very well-known issue with this car.
Would this not have been an ideal opportunity to invite someone like Cleveleys (James & Kate) in to produce more content for both channels? The items you're replacing were primarily mechanical and any competent mechanic could have provided that service for you, a visit to Tesla might be needed for specific diagnosis issues on the software side but that's about it. Thanks for the content output in 2024 and have a happy Christmas, best wishes for 2025 and reaching 100k subs.
This should cheer you up then. I've done something similar on my channel. I bought a 21 plate space. In it's first year of ownership I have lost £20000 and the car has just turned 10000 miles. Jest subbed to support you as I took love my EV. 👍
7 years of main dealer servicing in a bmw/audi etc (say £400 a year) would have cost more than you just spent for actual renewal of the vehicle. Looks like good value
The steering wheel alignment issue - I had the same on my model Y. They told me they just use the "service" display to decide whether the steering wheel is central. They said it can look off because of the position of the stalks, the curved "dash" etc. It still annoys me when I drive it. I even tried to realign it myself but they over-tightened the lock nuts on the track rod ends so I couldn't undo them. I know they did this because the factory alignment markers were out on the nuts.
You should use it to challenge those other YT channels like Whatcar or Auto Alex who continue to do clueless EV range tests stacking the deck in ICE favour by charging at the worst locations. Aim to make your journey as realistic, cheap and stress free as well.
A shout out....not ,to Leeds Tesla. I had work done on my front nearside suspension/control arm area. When I got car MOT,d,it failed and was considered dangerous to drive,because of twisted break hose. How did the hose get twisted? No comment from Tesla,putting my safety at risk
The ICE anti-EV community are living in their own warped world and really are not worth bothering with. I enjoy your content as it adds a sense of realism and honesty and reassurance to those of us joining the EV world. I have never been naiive enough to believe all the doom and gloom stories as you know it is fueled by those resistant to change either through blind panic or vested interest of the oil industry and manufacturers who missed the boat.
Its like they forget that the majority of EV owners aren't new drivers. We're all people who have been driving for several years. We know what an ICE vehicle drives like, and we know what to expect from a vehicle.
I'd also be interested to see if you were able to find a buyer for anything like that money considering the mileage and the distrust of battery reliability after the battery warranty is out
4k worth of work by a main dealer when nudging 200k miles seems pretty reasonable to me. All that work and parts are warrantied to. Keep it. Let’s see how long these beasties last!
Vehicle Bodycare Centre, Cross Green, Leeds. They're Tesla's recommended body shop and gave me excellent service fixing some serious issues on my Model 3 recently (my fault entirely - not the car's). Might not necessarily be cheaper but at least an alternative who know what they're doing with properly trained staff..
What are you doing with the spare wheels? I’d be interested if they’re going, have a Tesla model S with 21’s on and could do with a set of 19’s to help with efficiency
I’ve had a great experience under warranty but they charge £165 for everything. I have an extended hartwell warranty for 3 years which has worked well so far. The parts are actually very cheap, it’s the ridiculous labour prices that kills. You should be charged £165 an hour for actual time spent not just a straight 165 for every job.
My P90D (pre facelift) is soon to be at 100,000 miles. I have the problem with the gloop exiting the original LCD display. This is an £1,800 quid upgrade to the MCU2 to replace. I'm told by many to do it as it makes the car infotainment system so much quicker and improves functionality. Is yours MCU1 or 2 and what are your thoughts on that type of spend??
Are you on MCU2 ? If not get it upgraded (£1.4k) + £400 for a reliable radio unit. We"ve spent less on our '14 S85 using independents, including £2.5k on all new suspension arms a rear lamp unit and new wiper mech. Range now 220 miles at 100% and best handling quickest car i've ever had.
That was a proper robbery at Tesla. 165 pounds for every 5 and 10 minute job. Looks like they are well aware that there are no garages to take it to in the area.
There is multiplier for each labout charge. £165 is the hourly rate. It will say something like 0.5x on the bill for half an hour. I paid £12 to have a rear light unit fitted.
Great one once again sir. The wife still isn't getting it but I I'm going to assert my authority in the new year and demand my solar and heat pump... No harm in dreaming is there? Festive Cheers 🎅🍺🎄
How are charge times on the battery? Identical to when it was new? Faster? Slower? I never seem to get any reviews on that, only how well the battery performs compared to new for milage.
@@ElectricVehicleMan But how long did it take? With range fear and charging times being virtually the two only reasons people don't buy an EV I'd like to see numbers on if going from 20% to 80% takes longer time to do on an old battery or if it remains the same, or maybe gets shorter as the wattage it'll performs goes down. You've done a fair few videos where the 20 minute stop on long drives has been mentioned so it really is a thing worth looking at imo and just a quick "Yep 10% to 50% and 20% to 80% and 5% to 100% are all still take identical times to do" would do me, but if there is a difference that would be useful information.
Is there a difference between the suspension setup and hardware in an EV compared to an ICE? If not could any mechanic take on most if not all the annual safety related servicing?
Great video. Keep the S for a long while longer. You put the elbow grease in, threw a good few bob at it and now enjoy! Don't deprive yourselves of a bit of fun. I know you're thinking I need a new content car but this could serve for a while yet. Trusting you will have the wit to park the camera and have a great family Christmas break, so cheers for 2024 and looking forward to your updates over 2025 and beyond.
EVs are not ‘alien tech’. Battery issues, main fuse replacement, and leaky motor shaft seals are Tesla territory but everything else is motor mechanic friendly. Re-bushing suspension arms, wheel alignment, replacing strut tower cross braces and steering arms are in any mechanics wheel house. Tyres and wind screen wiper blades are wear and tear items.
Interested in hearing more about the e primacy tyre and why you chose it, have been looking at at the low rolling distance tyres but watching a tyre review channel they seem to be comprised in the wet, especially the e primacy.
I used Tesla Leeds many times with my model 3. £165 is the normal hourly charge, to which they than attribute hours or part hours assigned to that task. So each line of the bill should have a length of that 1 hour i.e 0.5 of one hour at £165 per hour (£82.50) Or 3.5 at £165 and so on. Weird to read initially Which is why you see so many £165 lines That's just the hourly rate times by the time taken
@sassasins031 I know, it's definitely not cheap. But their billing is very accurate, if it takes 10 mins they only charge for 10 mins by the % of that £165. I had a lot of work done on my model 3, majority under warranty and some was crazy money whem you checked the bill and what it would have been. Some was not bad once you'd split that 165 down. At least they don't say charge for 1 hour if it only takes 5 mins. I'm not sticking up for them as yes they aren't cheap, but they're very fair on their time taken. Personally I don't own one any more either, but the constant 165 mentioned in the video is misleading. I thought the same until I learned how to read the bill properly.
Are you reading your bill correct usually the labour charge is listed as 165 but to the left under qty it will say 0.5 or 0.25 etc meaning 0.5=1/2 of the 165?????
When Tesla do a good job it’s great. But with little things, like testing a wheel alignment result, they are pretty awful. That being said, I take my cars to a premium tyre shop called Jax in Brisbane and each time I’ve had the car aligned they’ve missed the off centre steering wheel afterwards. And as you say, there’s nothing more annoying. Lucky my tyre shop got on it immediately and fixed it under an hour. Whereas Tesla will have to rebook you. Keep the car for a bit and see how it goes. My 2019 Model S already had a coolant heating and front air suspension replaced. And other various bits and pieces. Also know that the front motor mounts can/will crack leaving you with a nasty click on heavy acceleration. Expensive. And that your high voltage charging module is not covered by your drivetrain warranty. Very expensive. But I love the car. So much more special than any other Tesla. Or dare I say any other EV. I am desperately looking to replace my Model S, but haven’t found anything as appealing and with as much character. Love your videos on this!
Cheers for this - quite illuminating. When the legislation catches up in EU/UK and FSD is actually allowed (beyond the almost dangerous Advanced Autopilot), would you be looking to review that?
For the mileage that’s a fair cost, to put it into perspective look up the cost for a similar Audi BMW Mercedes at the same mileage, you will find that you’ll have to pass gold bricks to cover the costs,
You never take Tesla quotes. There's heaps of Tesla licenced repair shops out there. But go for the dearest price after all you can afford it with your viewers supporting your channel.
Over 3 years ago I bought my now 22yr old Toyoya RAV4 for just below £3800. Its needed a new battery, servicing, brakes, tyres and wiper blades. Something finally went wrong: today I replaced a brake light bulb 😂. Oh, and it doesn't rattle 😂😂😂
I think the original post is a commentary on the fact that the Toyota is seemingly a better value second hand buy. The person who buys the Tesla from you is indeed fortunate. You’ve spent a great deal of money - and undertaken several trips back and forward to the dealer - so they don’t have to.
The one thing I would like to know is how do the “E” tyres stack up against the whiteboard of truth… I may get back to you on that one, my two years will be up soon and I will compare the new normal tyres with the old ones. If I am still achieving 4.1 miles per kilowatt next summer. My answer is no.
As much as I like EV's, I just couldn't bring myself to pay such a decent amount of money for such a high miler. There's no getting away from the fact it's covered 186k miles. Being still early in EV technology advancement (proving components over decades), older EV's are just future money pits waiting to happen I think. £15k + a big repair that could happen anytime and suddenly people have buried a decent chunk of the cost of a brand new Model 3 into an older car
They are fleecing you. They charged an hour's Labour for every job but a lot of them don't take that long. They charged an hour for the rest drive that probably took 15 minutes.
They most likely didn’t and Andy just hasn’t noticed that they multiple by a 0.x on every one of those items
Andy said he couldn't find anyone else to do the work, so he was stuck with the localish Tesla dealer.
@@sargfowler9603 he's talking nonsense, nearly any garage could have carried out that work and been a heck of a lot cheaper... but suppose that doesn't get the click bait views in
@@g.d2450Not nonsense. Many garages won't work on EVs, even if it's just normal car stuff. Their insurance doesn't cover EVs and they don't have the high voltage training.
@@MCSMIK Yes, I had a rear light door whilst I was supercharging ( I asked the tech and he did it there and then) It cost £12 in labour I think with a 0.15x on the hourly rate or something like that.
Took delivery of a 2016 Model S 75D only yesterday, with 180,000kms. Range is 350km or so. I am pretty happy with that.
Honestly, that suspension work could have easily been done at home on the drive on jack stands, it's pretty basic stuff. So the fact that a normal garage refused to do it is strange!
The only part of the repair that was EV specific was the charge port, the rest is standard ICE car stuff!
You're right; there's a message here - an awful amount of that stuff could have been done on the drive. DIY definitely rules!
Apparently, we're told that you can't work on EV's yourself and local garages will go bust. They certainly will if they can't be bothered to do non electrical stuff.
Oh wait, it's because they have to be worked on outside, 15m from anything flammable and needs everyone suited up in rubber overalls. Man down the pub who has a mate whose cousin has one said something about it! 😂
Exactly. Garages refuse to work on EVs as if they aren't 80% mechanically identical to other cars. Suspension, shock absorbers, hinges, seals, axles, locks, 12-volt circuitry, etc., etc. Only the motor, battery and anything connected to high voltage requires special knowledge beyond ICE car maintenance. And any competent mechanic could learn that in a few days.The IMI Level 4 EV Qualification for Diagnosis, Testing and Repair of EVs is a three day course.
@@trevorberridge6079You're not wrong but I do believe it's the insurance that is an issue, unless they do the 10 day HV course. I also think there's a certain amount of FUD involved when it comes to EVs and normal mechanics.
@@djtaylorutubeThe cars don’t automatically explode just because you replace a brake pad. I’d still avoid charging in an inclosed area and definitely don’t put damaged ones in shipping containers.
The silver wheels look miles better than the black ones.
Agreed.
@@rob_lightbody I don't normally like black wheels, but those silver ones are rancid
They look better black on a black car
No silver wheels date it. Time to move on my friend
@@kamakrajuu nothing dates cars more than black wheels. They're a passing fad
For an ex company 'thrasher' with nearly 200k miles on it, £3k to fix iback to a very good standard is very good. about 8 years ago, had a V8 Biturbo ML Mercedes, which between 100k and 110k miles, required over £10k's worth of maintenance doing. That 75D good for another 100k+ miles at least.
Why hasn't this channel got more than 100k subscribers? Sensible advice and more interesting car reviews than most of the others. Thanks for the content this year and best wishes for Christmas and 2025.
Because he isn’t the most likeable
@@kamakrajuu I think he is, may be it's because he is a foreigner to you.
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EVs are a niche market.....
Your Leaf is still going fine BTW
Can't compare worlds most boring and ugly electric car to Tesla.
Have a great Christmas and thank you for all the information and entertainment you have provided me for the past nine years! Looking forward to watching more in the new year as the best!
Incidentally - I once bought an Aston DB7 because it was within reach. I dropped it a AM for the free new owner check over - no work, just the check. Hazard a guess??? £9k for what would be about £600 on a Ford Focus. Fixed it properly with OEM grade aftermarket parts for about 1k. Sold it due to a FUBAR aftermarket immobiliser issue. Wish I’d never laid eyes on it. Upshot is your OEM Tesla grand total seems perfectly fair for such a good tool!! 😂
A full refurb should be around £300. I paid £360 for my alloys to be made like new and had a colour change too.
But that was nice of your viewer.
As for the repairs, use EVCleevly. They come to you and are cheaper and better than Tesla.
I’ve just had a rattle (quite loud and got worse over time) repaired by EVC. They replaced both my air struts (Einbach) for £2k, Tesla wanted £5k for the same job.
As said in the video, this couldn’t be done on my drive.
Keep it, there is still more of the story this car can tell. I think when you consider its mileage a 4K bill to get it back to best is pretty good and wonder how much it would cost for a non EV to maintain it to 190k miles?? Tesla service seemed a bit poor though
Five days to clean a car. WOW, just WOW. Five minutes is too long for me. Once a quarter mine gets taken to a wash where it is jetted all over. Job done. I cannot think of a more 'cruel and unusual' punishment than cleaning a car when you know a 5 minute drive later it will look exactly as dirty as it did before it was washed. Madness.
That aside I always use Michelin tyres as well. Maintenance with quality parts is important. Not looking grubby matters not a jot.
Totally agree, I'm a car lover, but I hate cleaning my cars. I'll just take mine to my local polish car wash. Though these are a really good one, though cheap at £9 for a wash. They use good practices and they are a family, no employees so they do it with pride.
You have to remember EVM used to detail cars for a living so I think he enjoys the challenge.
I put one of my cars in for a full detail, which included Decon wash, 3 stage machine polish,engine bay,interior,wheel refurb,a bit of P.D.R.work and a ceramic coating applied.
it was in for 2 weeks solid.
I have done my last 3 cars myself and I average about 5 days. So I can totally relate to this.
Those labour costs are Jaguar/Land Rover sort of numbers and very cheeky indeed.
Highlights the need for independent garages to get themselves trained up and familiar with EVs though. It shows that most of what needs doing on these cars is meat-and-potatoes spanner work that an good mechanic can do and doesn't involve the angry pixies at all.
A really sound idea but the cost of tooling up, astronomical insurance hike and training in high voltage safety would make it unviable for most independent garages.
Keep it, I’m more interested in keeping EV’s for the long run, than the ‘everybody’s at it’ new car of the week.
My priority is content though with this. If it ain’t generating any, it’s useless.
Keeping it would be 1-2 videos a year at best.
Its not the car, its what you do with it that will generate content.
Drag race 😂
@@ElectricVehicleManGood point but could you sell it and arrange with the new owner to follow up on it.
In exchange they get a top guy for advice should they need it.
If they are prepared to talk about on it either on or off camera even better.
That could be a way of extending the interest in your channel out.
For example - hey guys remember this one it's finally changing hands again let's chat to the seller and keep our fingers crossed that the new buyer will come on board also.
So madam you have bought a 10 year old Tesla blah blah
To answer your question: A Tesla Model S 75D in something akin to nearly new condition with at least 88% battery SOH for £15,000 outlay is an absolute bargain. It had an RRP of £75,000 when launched. 20% the original price with circa 90% of the range and most of it's performance remaining. No brainer of the century.
Always buy secondhand and let the first owner take the depreciation hit. But what depreciation! Wow!
@@Dogtagnan Depreciation is irrelevant. Every car loses value the moment you buy it. On average in the UK the first year sees up to 20% depreciation and then 10% every year after that. That means that in six years you lose 70% of the car's value. The average age of a licensed vehicle is nine by which time your car is effectively worthless. Anything you can get for it is a bonus. And some vehicles are licensed for up to 12 years (as was the last ICE car I owned from new). So most people that intend to keep their car lose value on it. It makes no difference to most people buying new, but it makes cars (ANY type of car) more affordable to the 91% of owners who DON'T buy new. Depreciation is just another false argument against EVs. Ironically, it was only a few years ago that used Teslas were selling for MORE than new ones because people were so eager to get their hands on one. And even original Nissan Leafs have sold at 10 years of age and only depreciated by 50% of their value. So sometimes the trend with EVs is to depreciate LESS than ICE cars or even GAIN value.
@@trevorberridge6079irrelevant, really.....😂😂😂😂
@Beauloqs Totally. Especially as most people don't buy new nor is depreciation unique to EVs.
That’s a good car. It’s been checked & signed off by Tesla itself. Peace of mind motoring, worth the spend.
Sorry guys, Christmas and Tesla made the usual Sunday upload impossible I'm afraid!
Have a good one.
I’m thinking (I would 😂😂😂) a swap for my 2015 P85D 165175 miles as of today. Has SC01 so might actually work out good for you plus will be £20 road tax, you can even keep the wheels you have. Plus at 200k you can have to do the review.
The inner wear on the tyre happens when the air suspension in on the lowest setting and the alignment hasn’t been done properly. It’s common on the model s & x
Thank you for such a great EV channel. Amongst a small group of others you’ve converted me to EV, proudly driving an MG5SE on Ohme/Octopus, I’ve taken the plunge and ordered a 2021 Mii EV for her indoors. Happy Christmas EVM and yours, from us down south. Keep it up - I’ll be chipping in a few ££ as soon as I can find the linky! BTW I still have an ICE RV, bike and classic MG - but EV is the way for the daily drivers.
Some of my colleagues at work still think EV batteries are done after 3 years! 🙄
Lots of misinformation out here. With channels like this we hope that changes.
Na most people think it's 10 years, meanwhile I'm still driving my 2003 358,000 mile Citroen C5. EVs are shite they only last 10 years so if you're a low mileage driver cooked your not going to spend thousands on a new battery the things will be scrapped, meanwhile diesel, petrol and hybrids (cheaper smaller batteries)keep going year after year.
@@brendanc5519 Cars in the UK are scrapped after about 14 years on average though. Most do not see past about 150,000 miles. You are the exception not the rule. Can they be kept going with maintenance, yes but it becomes cost prohibitive to do so. EV batteries are dropping in price year over year, and more garages will do repairs rather than replace.
I want to do the same so bought an electric car and using it every day and helping family friends who has doubts of electric cars.
@@usefulrandom1855 a replacement battery is cost prohibitive is it not? EV has its place, but certainly not for all, and they should not be forced upon us. We have both EV and ICE, our choice because it makes sense for us, but there is no one size fits all EV.
Interesting video as usual, and I’d love to post up my opinion……. But it’ll cost ya £165…….😂
+VAT
It would be interesting to know how much the previous owner spent on repairs.
If that’s the only paid repairs in 185,000 miles I’d say it’s a bargain and well worth it.
Could you put a screenshot of the invoice please.
I have an S75 and what's amazing about it is it's storage capacity, you need to take it on a trip and show how much you can put it and how little it affects range.
Isn't it the Leaf that started the missinformation on battery life? Because it isnt actively temp controlled it cooks the batreries? Modern cars all have active conditioning systems so should last way longer.
I’m on my 2nd M3 and we now have an E Corsa. In the new year Octopus 🐙 are putting in an air pump and I’m removing my gas boiler and hob! After that I’m going for solar and battery pack. Much of this adoption is down to your number crunching, educational videos and honest shared insights! Happy Christmas EVM, way to go!
Cheaper than I thought it would be.
Nice work fella, good to see an alternative view of being an EV owner. Id have that in a heartbeat so well done for getting it back to being sorted 👍
I like these cars, although electric vehicles are out of my price range and I lack the ability to charge at home, but your reviews are always sensible, you point out the pros and cons of all vehicles, good and fair reviews. I've followed these videos, this has been a good review I've enjoyed watching and following the progress of this vehicle
If I had access to home charging, and obviously the money to buy one, I would consider one of these. I am no good with technology, it's not just electric vehicles, but all modern vehicles are going to screens which I have zero knowledge of, as another RUclipsr said, I'm a cabbage because I don't understand technology that I've never been taught, that though does put me off modern vehicles.
I personally would keep the vehicle as it's so practical, it's got loads of load space, plenty of space for passengers as to be fair, mileage on modern day vehicles whether electric or combustion engined doesn't matter much unless you're selling a vehicle, another RUclipsr bought a Tesla with close to half a million on the clock, it's how well the vehicles are looked after, how well they're maintained as to how long they last, I drive a 799cc, 3 cylinder diesel, it's 13 years old, covered 160,000 miles and still keeps on running, but it's serviced twice a year, regularly maintained, if it needs doing, I get it done if I can't do it myself, when I bought it back in 2011, everyone said, you'll be lucky to see 80,000 miles out of that, it won't last 10 years, I've got another 10 years to retirement (hopefully, if the government doesn't change it), I hope the car will keep going until I retire in 2034
Worth spending the money you did. This is the right way with older cars, they can cover high mileage and last many years if kept in good order. Even when the costs exceed the market value there is still value in the service the car will give you.
Except maybe for “consumables”. I had some no name tyres recommended by a chain owned by one of this channels sponsors. That 3L SUV stuck to the road like 💩 to a blanket.
so long as it is reliable and you feel happy with the car keep it definitely, looks ok to me i used to run company cars with big mileages and the dealers slowly replaced suspension and water pump,alternator etc the lease company where not happy at the spend but they wouldnt recall it early ,hi to Hertz and Lex leasing
Also, you MUST keep an eye on motor bearings. When they start to whine, replace immediately! You will have to find a good independent service for that, as Tesla can't replace bearings without discarding motors. Driving wise Tesla is the only brand that offers benefits of electrics - performance, acceleration and comfort.
72 plate MG5 20k on the clock 2nd hand bargain - SOH 96.8% - 200mile range in winter, so more than enough for my needs. Love your work and detail big man.
The only thing different I would have done would be to fit crossclimate tyres..Thanks again
£165 for every entry on the system lol.
I bet all those £165s were just made up and the genuine time spent on car was a lot lower.
This is the reason I don't use main dealers, I had exactly the same issue with the steering wheel after a dealer a serviced my car once and did the alignment thing.
Read @MCSMIK above
What's the corrosion level like beneath the car?
Brakes, linkages etc
Fantastic way to buy a car - getting it to 200k and doing a decent battery health check sounds like a good idea, it would be interesting to know how the tyres are wearing after the suspension and alignment work from the dealership. 👍
I've got one like this as well with over 200 thousand miles I think you gonna love it and keep it.
If you've got a bit of mechanical knowledge, you can save a few quid on basic servicing. I've just done complete brake job on our model 3 with 100k miles on it. Cabin filters, wipers brake fluid swap. Save plenty.
The reflector on my charge door was hit by a large hailstone and cracked, so as it is a separate part to the door itself and just cosmetic, I contacted Tesla…. so it is still cracked because I refuse to have Tesla fit an entire charger, as they told me they would need to do, because they dont supply just the reflector and that is stupid.
I recently had the door release button fixed by Tesla (under warranty) they replaced the entire door card.
@ What’s the point of creating eco credentials to boast about, if they chuck more away than they need to?
Not a great advert for Tesla service
@ I have just requested a service appointment to diagnose a DC charging warning. Tesla are sending a mobile tech to my house on Monday morning to fix it and a few recall items eg. boot strut O ring at the same time. It’s probably a matter of time vs cost and time is more expensive than some components, so it’s quicker to chuck some things away, than to repair them. That’s how things are designed these days.
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Not too bad all things considered really! But one thing… Have a look and tell us. Are the majority of those £165 appear as… £165 x 0.5 i.e. half an hours work instead of a full hour. As that’s what I saw on my receipts from the past from Tesla
Never been convinced by high mileage cars, ice or ev. I think you have proved my theory of being wary. It sounded like you have already decided to sell and think you are right, risky keeping longer as still possibly other issues down the line.
It would have been interesting to see what Cleevely EV would have charged.
70% of their work is in Teslas
That figure seems reasonable for a car with such a high mileage. Remember how much youve saved on fuel (at least £3000 a year £60 a week). Such a high mileage on a fuel car would have meant new engine or major replacement parts and possibly a new gearbox etc etc)
Please at least do a "Living with a high mileage Model S" video.
Really enjoyed your content here and your earlier material on the model S. Am not a subscriber but if you were to do a few more pieces on living with this car and its pros and cons then you will earn my subscription.
The total is shocking but it's because it was neglected and all done at once.
A £4000 bill on a car of that mileage and that many parts from Tesla is not bad at all. Do not forget it would have been about an £80,000 car.
Merry Christmas and thanks for the great content 👍😊
Let's see a long distance road trip fully loaded (like a family would for a summer trip to Devon etc)
You mentioned that new tyres would raise the value of the car. I popped my car into a trade-in form on Cinch as a test (so basically WBAC), and got less than I expect; I wonder how likely it'd be that they'd raise their valuation if they realised the car had relatively new Michelins and not, say, Landsails or possibly (as seen in this video) Delintes? Probably not likely at all.
Also, an AutoExpress article popped up on my phone earlier called "Unsure about electric cars? Don’t let others make up your mind" which I feel is definitely targeted more at the negative attitudes towards EVs. Just... avoid the comments on there, I've no idea what's happening.
Not that I would ever spend 15k on any car, but a 15k spend on this looks good value to me. At least you know now what you have got under you. Interesting fee structure, which would seem to be a 'per hour or part thereof' applied to each individual job rather than the work as a whole. Probably common in main dealers and manufacturer operations? As you might guess from my comment on 15k breaking my purchase limit, it's been several decades since I last used a dealer for servicing....
18:16 Model S Suspension kits and upgrades are ready available - did you not think of doing it yourself? - is not a hard thing to do and the parts are better quality than Telsa while being cheaper - it is a very well-known issue with this car.
You’re punching above your weight with Mrs EVM, good on yer
Would this not have been an ideal opportunity to invite someone like Cleveleys (James & Kate) in to produce more content for both channels? The items you're replacing were primarily mechanical and any competent mechanic could have provided that service for you, a visit to Tesla might be needed for specific diagnosis issues on the software side but that's about it. Thanks for the content output in 2024 and have a happy Christmas, best wishes for 2025 and reaching 100k subs.
8 hour round trip. Too far away.
This should cheer you up then. I've done something similar on my channel. I bought a 21 plate space. In it's first year of ownership I have lost £20000 and the car has just turned 10000 miles. Jest subbed to support you as I took love my EV. 👍
Hi EVM, from your audience perspective, keeping this Model S and seeing how it holds up as the miles and age pile on would be fascinating.
7 years of main dealer servicing in a bmw/audi etc (say £400 a year) would have cost more than you just spent for actual renewal of the vehicle. Looks like good value
The steering wheel alignment issue - I had the same on my model Y. They told me they just use the "service" display to decide whether the steering wheel is central. They said it can look off because of the position of the stalks, the curved "dash" etc. It still annoys me when I drive it. I even tried to realign it myself but they over-tightened the lock nuts on the track rod ends so I couldn't undo them. I know they did this because the factory alignment markers were out on the nuts.
You should use it to challenge those other YT channels like Whatcar or Auto Alex who continue to do clueless EV range tests stacking the deck in ICE favour by charging at the worst locations. Aim to make your journey as realistic, cheap and stress free as well.
A shout out....not ,to Leeds Tesla.
I had work done on my front nearside suspension/control arm area.
When I got car MOT,d,it failed and was considered dangerous to drive,because of twisted break hose.
How did the hose get twisted?
No comment from Tesla,putting my safety at risk
The ICE anti-EV community are living in their own warped world and really are not worth bothering with. I enjoy your content as it adds a sense of realism and honesty and reassurance to those of us joining the EV world. I have never been naiive enough to believe all the doom and gloom stories as you know it is fueled by those resistant to change either through blind panic or vested interest of the oil industry and manufacturers who missed the boat.
Its like they forget that the majority of EV owners aren't new drivers.
We're all people who have been driving for several years. We know what an ICE vehicle drives like, and we know what to expect from a vehicle.
I'd also be interested to see if you were able to find a buyer for anything like that money considering the mileage and the distrust of battery reliability after the battery warranty is out
So Tesla’s standard service charge is £165 just to take a look at it? Skill shortages for ev services. What about the north coast 500 tour in it.
4k worth of work by a main dealer when nudging 200k miles seems pretty reasonable to me. All that work and parts are warrantied to.
Keep it. Let’s see how long these beasties last!
Vehicle Bodycare Centre, Cross Green, Leeds. They're Tesla's recommended body shop and gave me excellent service fixing some serious issues on my Model 3 recently (my fault entirely - not the car's). Might not necessarily be cheaper but at least an alternative who know what they're doing with properly trained staff..
If it was mine I'd sell it before the mileage gets galactic and buy another project. Wishing you and family a wonderful Christmas.
What are you doing with the spare wheels? I’d be interested if they’re going, have a Tesla model S with 21’s on and could do with a set of 19’s to help with efficiency
I’ve had a great experience under warranty but they charge £165 for everything. I have an extended hartwell warranty for 3 years which has worked well so far. The parts are actually very cheap, it’s the ridiculous labour prices that kills. You should be charged £165 an hour for actual time spent not just a straight 165 for every job.
My P90D (pre facelift) is soon to be at 100,000 miles. I have the problem with the gloop exiting the original LCD display. This is an £1,800 quid upgrade to the MCU2 to replace. I'm told by many to do it as it makes the car infotainment system so much quicker and improves functionality. Is yours MCU1 or 2 and what are your thoughts on that type of spend??
If you’re keeping the car, might as well do it and enjoy it.
Hi, so after all you have done, which would you have the model s or the BMW i3????
Are you on MCU2 ? If not get it upgraded (£1.4k) + £400 for a reliable radio unit. We"ve spent less on our '14 S85 using independents, including £2.5k on all new suspension arms a rear lamp unit and new wiper mech. Range now 220 miles at 100% and best handling quickest car i've ever had.
That was a proper robbery at Tesla. 165 pounds for every 5 and 10 minute job. Looks like they are well aware that there are no garages to take it to in the area.
There is multiplier for each labout charge. £165 is the hourly rate. It will say something like 0.5x on the bill for half an hour. I paid £12 to have a rear light unit fitted.
What's the software like? Still getting updates?
Yup
Great one once again sir. The wife still isn't getting it but I I'm going to assert my authority in the new year and demand my solar and heat pump...
No harm in dreaming is there?
Festive Cheers 🎅🍺🎄
How are charge times on the battery? Identical to when it was new? Faster? Slower? I never seem to get any reviews on that, only how well the battery performs compared to new for milage.
It’s hit its max when I supercharged it last.
@@ElectricVehicleMan But how long did it take? With range fear and charging times being virtually the two only reasons people don't buy an EV I'd like to see numbers on if going from 20% to 80% takes longer time to do on an old battery or if it remains the same, or maybe gets shorter as the wattage it'll performs goes down.
You've done a fair few videos where the 20 minute stop on long drives has been mentioned so it really is a thing worth looking at imo and just a quick "Yep 10% to 50% and 20% to 80% and 5% to 100% are all still take identical times to do" would do me, but if there is a difference that would be useful information.
Is there a difference between the suspension setup and hardware in an EV compared to an ICE? If not could any mechanic take on most if not all the annual safety related servicing?
Great video. Keep the S for a long while longer. You put the elbow grease in, threw a good few bob at it and now enjoy! Don't deprive yourselves of a bit of fun. I know you're thinking I need a new content car but this could serve for a while yet. Trusting you will have the wit to park the camera and have a great family Christmas break, so cheers for 2024 and looking forward to your updates over 2025 and beyond.
EVs are not ‘alien tech’. Battery issues, main fuse replacement, and leaky motor shaft seals are Tesla territory but everything else is motor mechanic friendly. Re-bushing suspension arms, wheel alignment, replacing strut tower cross braces and steering arms are in any mechanics wheel house. Tyres and wind screen wiper blades are wear and tear items.
That was unknown at the time.
I said, fix anything that needs it. Could’ve been very specific.
Interesting video well done very informative. I cannot have an EV as I dont have anywhere to charge it at home.
Still seems like a fantastic price to me would keep it till it breaks for that
Screw Elon. Plenty of good EVs that aren't from Tesla...
@0:40 I'm guessing more than the cost of buying a brand new one 😅
Absolutely disgusting the labour costs.... Total labour charge should be just that
Interested in hearing more about the e primacy tyre and why you chose it, have been looking at at the low rolling distance tyres but watching a tyre review channel they seem to be comprised in the wet, especially the e primacy.
I used Tesla Leeds many times with my model 3.
£165 is the normal hourly charge, to which they than attribute hours or part hours assigned to that task.
So each line of the bill should have a length of that 1 hour
i.e 0.5 of one hour at £165 per hour (£82.50)
Or 3.5 at £165 and so on.
Weird to read initially
Which is why you see so many £165 lines
That's just the hourly rate times by the time taken
£165 for exactly what is the question. Is Elon Musk working on it?
@sassasins031 I know, it's definitely not cheap.
But their billing is very accurate, if it takes 10 mins they only charge for 10 mins by the % of that £165.
I had a lot of work done on my model 3, majority under warranty and some was crazy money whem you checked the bill and what it would have been.
Some was not bad once you'd split that 165 down.
At least they don't say charge for 1 hour if it only takes 5 mins.
I'm not sticking up for them as yes they aren't cheap, but they're very fair on their time taken.
Personally I don't own one any more either, but the constant 165 mentioned in the video is misleading.
I thought the same until I learned how to read the bill properly.
If you could it will be nice to see for how long it will last la battery and the transmission
I am surprised how cheap the repairs were, I was expecting about twice that much from an actual tesla dealership garage.
15,500 sounds like a very good deal to me, considering it is almost like new now and has respectable battery health.
£165 is hourly rate and not everything takes an hour, would have been really interesting video if you could read an invoice
Are you reading your bill correct usually the labour charge is listed as 165 but to the left under qty it will say 0.5 or 0.25 etc meaning 0.5=1/2 of the 165?????
When Tesla do a good job it’s great. But with little things, like testing a wheel alignment result, they are pretty awful. That being said, I take my cars to a premium tyre shop called Jax in Brisbane and each time I’ve had the car aligned they’ve missed the off centre steering wheel afterwards. And as you say, there’s nothing more annoying. Lucky my tyre shop got on it immediately and fixed it under an hour. Whereas Tesla will have to rebook you. Keep the car for a bit and see how it goes. My 2019 Model S already had a coolant heating and front air suspension replaced. And other various bits and pieces. Also know that the front motor mounts can/will crack leaving you with a nasty click on heavy acceleration. Expensive. And that your high voltage charging module is not covered by your drivetrain warranty. Very expensive. But I love the car. So much more special than any other Tesla. Or dare I say any other EV. I am desperately looking to replace my Model S, but haven’t found anything as appealing and with as much character. Love your videos on this!
Looks good , let us know how the range works
Do a review of it like you would do with a new one. It would be interesting to see if it still stacks up.
Cheers for this - quite illuminating. When the legislation catches up in EU/UK and FSD is actually allowed (beyond the almost dangerous Advanced Autopilot), would you be looking to review that?
For the mileage that’s a fair cost, to put it into perspective look up the cost for a similar Audi BMW Mercedes at the same mileage, you will find that you’ll have to pass gold bricks to cover the costs,
Wasn’t the duel motor more efficient due to the way it uses the power in the different motors.
You never take Tesla quotes. There's heaps of Tesla licenced repair shops out there. But go for the dearest price after all you can afford it with your viewers supporting your channel.
There’s hardly any Tesla repair shops. I don’t know of more than 3 in the whole country and none near me.
Over 3 years ago I bought my now 22yr old Toyoya RAV4 for just below £3800. Its needed a new battery, servicing, brakes, tyres and wiper blades. Something finally went wrong: today I replaced a brake light bulb 😂. Oh, and it doesn't rattle 😂😂😂
And the bills from the previous 22 years came to?
@@ElectricVehicleMan doesn’t matter. He didn’t pay them.
@ Neither will the person who buys this from me. 🤷♂️
I think the original post is a commentary on the fact that the Toyota is seemingly a better value second hand buy. The person who buys the Tesla from you is indeed fortunate. You’ve spent a great deal of money - and undertaken several trips back and forward to the dealer - so they don’t have to.
@ How do you know the previous owner of the Toyota didn’t do what I did with this?
The one thing I would like to know is how do the “E” tyres stack up against the whiteboard of truth… I may get back to you on that one, my two years will be up soon and I will compare the new normal tyres with the old ones. If I am still achieving 4.1 miles per kilowatt next summer. My answer is no.
As much as I like EV's, I just couldn't bring myself to pay such a decent amount of money for such a high miler. There's no getting away from the fact it's covered 186k miles. Being still early in EV technology advancement (proving components over decades), older EV's are just future money pits waiting to happen I think. £15k + a big repair that could happen anytime and suddenly people have buried a decent chunk of the cost of a brand new Model 3 into an older car