If cbf isn’t implemented before grief gets verified it’s gonna make the tidal wave drama look like a calm and collective debate. We aren’t even ready for the shit fest that’s gonna unfold in a few months.
Zoink vs Trick shouldn't even be a debate. If we're talking best by demon list points it currently is trick. If we're talking player skill I'd say currently they are roughly equal. If we're talking who the GOAT is its definitely Zoink (Owns the Top 10 basically, a lot of first victors in the top 10, entire top 75 beaten, jumps so far its insane, peak performance still unbeaten).
Zoink was so significantly better for his time that it makes it incredibly clear he could come back and overtake trick if he felt like it, besides the extra points trick has doesnt mean much because they’ve both beaten the top 20 anyways so alot od the stuff under that isnt indicative of their skill
Inserting my hot takes here: 1) I don’t get why people are so obsessed with demon list levels, especially top ones. It’s okay to like levels in the demon list, but some people love to make their favorite demonlist level their entire personality 2) UFO is the worst gamemode by far. It’s basically just “Click pattern the gamemode”. It feels like you don’t know you messed up until you die, unlike the other gamemodes where you die near instantly if you mess up a click pattern 3) Swing is overhated 4) Levels like the one Split72 put out are just lazy, and I hate how they’re the ones that get rated instead of some really cool levels that RobTop just doesn’t rate 5) The rating system kinda sucks. Its idea is cool but the execution of it is atrocious. Even if RobTop knows what he’s doing, he is still one guy, and his bias shows.
Yooooo I made a post just like this on my gd profile. I said i think you should need at least one epic for every 100 cp you get. The top just farm the same block design.
I think there should be a HUGE mega Collab where loads of players submit to be in it, each pro builder also building in it selects who they think is actually talented & everyone gets their own part, at the end of the level each player is given credit. The theme is a meme Top1 & I well & truly love this idea.
Rate standards have gotten so high to the point where levels that would have gotten epic dont even get rated (such as centipede) (maybe a hot take idk) and it goes to show that robtop delayed explorers because he couldnt keep up with the community.
Speaking of the zoink vs trick thing, I feel like a very interesting idea (and maybe a video idk) would be the discussion around us running out of new top players. Like will we ever see a time where the top 1 player of a time period never gets surpassed?
STOP counting only 60hz mobile completions. Unnerfed Aerial Gleam was beaten by VERTOP and it is hardest mobile level completed. And Oblivion beaten by bemj80 is hardest mobile **demon** completed
Hot take: tidal wave deco isn’t lazy to an extent and it looks very appealing. Also, if you ask a non-gd player to look at it, they would probably say that it’s really cool, which adds to my point of the level looking good.
If you show a non gd players most levels they’ll say it looks good. Glow spam, sloppily made, or whatever imperfections in a level a non gd player will usually not point out. Someone who hasn’t played GD before isn’t really qualified to say the level looks good because they have no understanding of the game, no points of comparison, and have not even had something they like yet. A non gd players opinion does not, would not, and should not add to your opinion because it’s an opinion drifting in space instead of standing on solid ground. I like the darker sections of tidal wave but the brighter section has a mix of yellow and blue that looks very ugly as well as the designs in it really showing and not in a good way. You could even say there’s too much in it to the point where it makes it look worse. That’s my opinion.
10:06 Honestly as much as I like the new Swing because people are actually using it in easier levels now instead of the old swing which was pretty much just locked to Extreme Demons 99% of the time, I just don’t like the gamemode because it feels like I’m not fully in control of my inputs just like how I can’t go down fast enough as the UFO sometimes.
There should be nothing more prestigious than rate (no epic, no mythic, no legendary divine grandpa demon whatever), and the featured tab should just be the most recently rated levels.
My hot takes based on this vid: 1. I honestly find flamewall to be extremely boring, I dont see the appeal. 2. Imo APT is generally a bad level, the deco is okay-ish and it fails to be a good remake. 3. Exasperation is a good level. Maybe its horrible to play, but its fun to watch. And enjoyability doesnt even matter as its meant to be impossible. The song choice is great, its not meant to be a good song that you might listen to. Its there for the creepy atmosphere.
1. honestly a 7 minute long top 1 with a camellia song verified by a player who isn’t zoink would be really nice to see 2. I can see why you wouldn’t like it… and I agree, buffing 2015 gameplay to be top 1 (or top 40 now) is just a horrible idea 3. yes, you’re based as hell, next
My hot takes: 1. The demon list shouldn’t be nearly as possible as it is. It ruins the game with how serious people are about the next top 1, which are all unfun pretty much copy and pasted gameplay levels. It’s all just straight fly, straight fly with orb, frame perfect jump, frame perfect wave, oops, all clubstep monsters, more straight fly. It also sparks unneeded drama. 2. Click Between Frames is the most unnecessary addition ever. It’s just stupid. 3. The deco in Tidal Wave isn’t the problem, the gameplay is. 4. Most hated gauntlet levels like Generation Retro and Scarlet Surge are good, but people just hate on them to hate on them and look cool. 5. 2.0 style wasn’t that bad. It’s honestly a nice and unique style compared to other styles. 6. Pixel deco sucks with the exception of like 2 levels.
1. Kind of agree, except for the gameplay part. 2. It helps everyone and makes the game more fair if bugless. 3. Those that actually get progress call it one of the most fun levels so idkwyo. 4. Generation Retro is genuinely unfun as hell. 5 and 6 I agree with
Hot take: Kratos is the meme top 1 we need. One: we would have an absolute laugh seeing at the top of the demon list. Two: Everyone who takes the game too seriously would be having a race to dethrone it like what happened with Tartarus. Either way, it’s funny.
7:30 correction: not saying this is the hardest mobile completion, but that there is a harder mobile completion that Sonic wave, being Atomic Cannon MKII
10:20 swing sucks because it is rng which direction u end up going if you spam + at higher speeds the movement time of the swing copter makes it physically unsightreadable
im sure someone else mentioned it here but the anathema verification was just recently given to whizkid05, and i believe he started playing it on july 20th after he verified menace, which was only 5 days ago id say thats a good sign we might finally see that level come out
Thinking Space should be rated for the same reason Silent Clubstep should; they were both rate worthy at the time of creation but took years to be verified.
jumping is actively "ruining" the game for new players that many feel they have to jump from the nightmare to zodiac to ever be good at the game. Instead of taking the more slow route and improving over time sure it can work out but beating harder things isnt everything gd is about
Hot take: Tidal Wave isn't as good as everyone says it is. People keep looking at it as "It's not a hell themed top one, so it's amazing" when there are many flaws that can be seen even at normal speed. It's good at best.
if you're talking about deco, I can't really see the problems with it at full speed, it's mostly when people screenshot it or are like "this looks bad" based off vibes with no reasoning
The block design is not incredible at slower speeds, and it often gets repetitive. However. Its not played at slow speeds, and also, more importantly: block design and detail has very little basis on level opinions in many levels imo. I think the theming, song, character and history/reputation of a level always plays a way bigger role than people think. And in those regards, i think Tidal Wave is outstanding. Sure, objectively, the block design isnt great, but level opinions arent objective.
I definitely do agree that opinions are subjective. Don't let my hot take sway your opinion on the level. It's just for me, there are some things that just make me think that this level isn't the greatest top 1 demon we've had, let alone one of the greatest levels. The 45% mini wave, the 62% blind transition, sometimes the color blending can make some objects look muddied, the 71% transition having a small gap, the last wave having some deco missing at the bottom... those are just a few examples. Again, just some thing that make *me* think this isn't one of the greatest levels. If you have your opinions, again, that's completely fine. It's just how I see the level.
While I do agree that Tidal wave has many, many flaws, it’s a solo creation and I think that could give it some leeway. Also I might just be dumb but if Tidal wave was a 9 star or something, it would be rated and featured in an instant.
The challenge community is at the center of some of the game's recent flaws from 2020-now, top players with controversial personalities or no personalities, top levels with terrible gameplay and often uninteresting deco. It's always been one of the more toxic sub-communities up there with GD twitter and gameplay only creators but they leaked over into the top playing community causing it to be much worse compared to earlier top play eras like Riot/Sunix and Technical/nSwish.
7:32 the hardest completion on mobile is FAR harder than sonic wave, it’s dectuple spam legend, a super hard spam challenge, AND it was verified on 60hz on iOS with iCreate Pro. It would place in the top 15 if robtop for some reason decided to rate it, however its just a challenge created by UFWM while he was taking a shit (not even joking) and then copy pasted 10 times in a row.
Speaking as a new geometry dash player who came in after 2.2 and instantly got hooked, swingcopter is by FAR the worst game mode. I genuinely don't think it's a matter of "the community just needs to get used to it", i learned all the gamemodes in roughly the same amount of time and GOD swingcopter feels awful to control
9:08 gameplay creativity-wise wise I think its the exact opposite. For any easy demon out there you can just buff it to extreme without changing gameplay ideas at all, now this is a recipe for bad gameplay but the point stands. Meanwhile, you cannot nerf all extreme gameplay ideas down to easy demon. Just by virtue of having more possible gameplay elements to work with extremes can be more creative in gameplay.
4:48 i would be on board but we have to remember that robtop is human too, he's just one guy and im sure that would put a lot of stress on him. tidal wave alone was incredibly stressful and we do not want that again.
8:50 oh HOLY MOLY THAT GRINDDDDS my gears! Everything I don’t believe in, in 1 comment. That is perfect. Honestly MASSIVE respect for the controversial comment of all time
10:37 there needs to be a "recommended" page for gd levels because if a level isnt good enough quality to be rated but still fun to play and look at, people should be able to find the level if an unknown creator makes a really good level but unfortunately doesnt get a send, chances are that the level will never break 1k downloads
Yo thx for putting cosmic dreamer in the background! It’s one of my favourite music! Also, i think that You an dailydoseofgd are our two News presenter in the comunity.
8:46 in terms of gameplay, I feel like I have much more freedom when making an extreme demon. I can make click patterns that are very satisfying to pull off, but too hard for any easy level. I don't have to worry too much about some gameplay feature being too difficult because well, it's supposed to be difficult. One thing you could argue though, is that the gameplay of an extreme demon has to get fine tuned a lot more than the gameplay of an easier demon. But many people don't seem to care about that anyway somehow.
8:08 rori dropped anathema and its being verified by Whizkid05 now and given how quickly he verified menace, it should be out within a couple of months
exasperation is a cool level (especially the remake). the gp id pretty creative and the song and deco (even the layout) provide an interesting atmosphere
I feel like the rating system should have a small revamp, where if a level has fun gameplay but only completed decoration, it should only be star rated. Mainly just feel like deco and gameplay should both have a 50/50 grasp on if a level is rated or not.
Deco standards are way too high now I believe that as long as a level is playable with good consistent gameplay it should be rated regardless of how its deco looks
11:29 thats the whole point of exasperation. it essentialy goes against every rule of creating. thats what makes it so cool. the song is meant to be jarring and unlistenable. the gameplay is meant to be unusual and weirdly structured. the level is meant to make you feel like you shouldnt be here and to leave as quickly as you can. i agree there isnt a good way to decorate it cuz it isnt meant to be decorated. but if the demon list ever allows unrated levels then i could see exasperation being a top 1 some day
how was there not a single one about platformer?? i guess my hot take is that people should just... care more about what I see as an equal to classic mode
possibly hot take: creators should need an epic level before they can get a certain number or cp. The top, 5 i think, just spam featured levels almost daily. Its impossible for any real cratirs (i dont consider them real creators) to reach the top.
exasperation is really good for what it tries to do. its supposed to be annoying and suck to play, and considering you dont like it for those exact reasons, it defos succeeded. and this might be a bit hot but decorating the layout ruins the charm entirely
silent clubstep probably will be placed above acheron at some time in the future and if element 111 rg ever gets placed on the demonlist it will probably be bellow silent clubstep
I think the swingcopter has much stronger gravity, meaning you need to click a lot faster, making it more interesting for top play. Swing has much slower speeds and is better for casual play. I think they both have their own niches and i doubt people are getting confused by the physics, its just like mini vs full size physics
@@Sepi-chu_loves_moths even if someone loves the swing, they have to admit that the mini swing is absolutely broken lol. I have to lower the gravity when I build with it to make it playable, especially for easier difficulties.
when you said wpopoff could be the player known for surpassing zoink, what about doggie bc i feel like he has just as high of a chance (mainly thanks to grief)
I very much disagree with the mobile top play vs computer top play thing. There are many more top pc players than mobile players and thus the skill on pc has been pushed a lot further than what is comparatively possible on the mobile level of top play.
Day 21 of asking Wavix to do this: What if Zoink had a heart attack and died, causing Spaceuk to return to the community with no hacks. Then, with the help of cherry team, space verifies bloodlust 2 and becomes immortalized as the verifier. Alternatively, you could just have Zoink dying from a heart attack.
Theyre way better recently (2.2) imo. Its not that the levels are mid its just there are many different levels, and its very subjective what levels people like. the idea that you have to beat every single level in the gauntlet is fundamentally flawed though. Gd levels are very different and people like very different things, not to mention many people cant run a lot of guantlet levels without lag, so with five levels in a row theres often at least one that you really hate. Imo a skip feature would make the gauntlets way better
RobTop will never accept CBF verifications bc he said he will add this as a feature next update, so if Doggie verifies Grief this will just put pressure on RobTop to make the next update (which would be cool)
Wavix should be a wave because i said so
So true
@@Baldman736 is that BaldmanGD
The I isn’t capitalised
@@Pnkcodmno one cares
@@Pnkcodmi think the only reason they capitalized wavix is because of some spell check software
If cbf isn’t implemented before grief gets verified it’s gonna make the tidal wave drama look like a calm and collective debate. We aren’t even ready for the shit fest that’s gonna unfold in a few months.
The demon list basically has a ticking time bomb on getting out their implementation of adding some unrated levels to the demon list lol
Even if that does happen there is still gonna be a ton of people who want the level to be rated. It’s gonna be ugly
What is cbf?
@@ElJuk3B0X click between frames, mod that changes input window to the polling rate of your input device without causing extra lag
@@Wookis That seems like a great thing for quality of play it should be implemented already lol
Zoink vs Trick shouldn't even be a debate. If we're talking best by demon list points it currently is trick. If we're talking player skill I'd say currently they are roughly equal. If we're talking who the GOAT is its definitely Zoink (Owns the Top 10 basically, a lot of first victors in the top 10, entire top 75 beaten, jumps so far its insane, peak performance still unbeaten).
Player skill should go to zoink as he beats levels with ~20& less attempts. Zoink vs Wpopoff is a much closer argument
But he didn't beat Codependence 🤓 (Bruh from what I know you need to beat it solo so it can get accepted on the demonlist)
zoink beats everything in less attempts than trick, zoink is better
wpopoff has a better case of being as good as or better than zoink
Zoink was so significantly better for his time that it makes it incredibly clear he could come back and overtake trick if he felt like it, besides the extra points trick has doesnt mean much because they’ve both beaten the top 20 anyways so alot od the stuff under that isnt indicative of their skill
honestly i think the GOAT is technical, purely because he's able to play at close top level over the course of multiple years
we focus so much on only the top 4 or 5 players and don't give enough recognition and attention to the ones that are just under them
that’s true
isn't whizkid verifying anathema now, rori had things going on that limited his time so it was given to whizkid I believe
yeah he started it just recently after beating menace and eitw
Also it is top 15-30 I think
yes
@JTYYY what really?
@@JTYYY its harder den saul goodman
Inserting my hot takes here:
1) I don’t get why people are so obsessed with demon list levels, especially top ones. It’s okay to like levels in the demon list, but some people love to make their favorite demonlist level their entire personality
2) UFO is the worst gamemode by far. It’s basically just “Click pattern the gamemode”. It feels like you don’t know you messed up until you die, unlike the other gamemodes where you die near instantly if you mess up a click pattern
3) Swing is overhated
4) Levels like the one Split72 put out are just lazy, and I hate how they’re the ones that get rated instead of some really cool levels that RobTop just doesn’t rate
5) The rating system kinda sucks. Its idea is cool but the execution of it is atrocious. Even if RobTop knows what he’s doing, he is still one guy, and his bias shows.
everything except the 1st i disagree with
agreed, except for number 2. It is fun and satisfying, but the 3rd worst imo (right before robot and swing)
@@breadofish worst gamemode is robot lmao
Yooooo I made a post just like this on my gd profile. I said i think you should need at least one epic for every 100 cp you get. The top just farm the same block design.
Neither the idea nor the execution of the rating system is good
I think there should be a HUGE mega Collab where loads of players submit to be in it, each pro builder also building in it selects who they think is actually talented & everyone gets their own part, at the end of the level each player is given credit. The theme is a meme Top1 & I well & truly love this idea.
There's already been a 14,000 person medical lab
@@ExtremeDemons3medical lab
But yeah r/place as a top 1 would be p cool
Rate standards have gotten so high to the point where levels that would have gotten epic dont even get rated (such as centipede) (maybe a hot take idk) and it goes to show that robtop delayed explorers because he couldnt keep up with the community.
Speaking of the zoink vs trick thing, I feel like a very interesting idea (and maybe a video idk) would be the discussion around us running out of new top players. Like will we ever see a time where the top 1 player of a time period never gets surpassed?
@@EternalArctic probably wPopoff if he keeps up and stays motivated for a long time cuz I think he's just genetically built different tbh lol
Btw the hardest mobile demon is Aerial Gleam
And Whizkid is verifying Anathema now
The hardest mobile completion is Yatagarasu according to the MDL, but according to the Demonlist it’s Cold Sweat
MDL is scuffed, and has been for years. Cold Sweat 60hz is hard enough, but on mobile?
STOP counting only 60hz mobile completions. Unnerfed Aerial Gleam was beaten by VERTOP and it is hardest mobile level completed. And Oblivion beaten by bemj80 is hardest mobile **demon** completed
@@Ivan_Mihailick 60hz is the whole appeal for mobile completions.
@@VampireFlutist 60hz is rarely seen today, everyone playing on 120+hz mobile, so why count only 60hz mobiles where like 3 people play???
Omg wavix did not mention Liechtenstein in one of his videos... Can't be
I think we did it
7:34 bro wake up, Oblivion has been beaten on mobile by bemj80, and Unnerfed Aerial Gleam(top ~35 PC)beaten by VERTOP
2 people vs the rest of the top players
While they are very difficult, theses levels were beaten on higher frame rates than 60 so it isn't exactly how hard people would think it is.
@@XiX_Mega_WWell wavix just said “on mobile” he didnt say on 60hz mobile or anything like that, so his point stands
@@liminall I meant the hardest levels beaten on mobile, not something else
other levels like kowereta have also been beaten on mobile 60hz in 2.1
Hot take: tidal wave deco isn’t lazy to an extent and it looks very appealing. Also, if you ask a non-gd player to look at it, they would probably say that it’s really cool, which adds to my point of the level looking good.
If you show a non gd players most levels they’ll say it looks good. Glow spam, sloppily made, or whatever imperfections in a level a non gd player will usually not point out. Someone who hasn’t played GD before isn’t really qualified to say the level looks good because they have no understanding of the game, no points of comparison, and have not even had something they like yet. A non gd players opinion does not, would not, and should not add to your opinion because it’s an opinion drifting in space instead of standing on solid ground. I like the darker sections of tidal wave but the brighter section has a mix of yellow and blue that looks very ugly as well as the designs in it really showing and not in a good way. You could even say there’s too much in it to the point where it makes it look worse. That’s my opinion.
Hot take: hell theme (like the red kind) can be actually pretty cool if done right. (Grief as an example)
Iceberg take
That's an ice cold take
Ice age take
And levels like rare by greifer
Bros take is from the cryoginian mass extinction 😬
Elysium mons is NOT a worthy sequel to Deimos and Phobos.
10:06 Honestly as much as I like the new Swing because people are actually using it in easier levels now instead of the old swing which was pretty much just locked to Extreme Demons 99% of the time, I just don’t like the gamemode because it feels like I’m not fully in control of my inputs just like how I can’t go down fast enough as the UFO sometimes.
4:37 i did not expect to be featured but thank you
There should be nothing more prestigious than rate (no epic, no mythic, no legendary divine grandpa demon whatever), and the featured tab should just be the most recently rated levels.
The mobile community has gotten absolutely insane at the game recently.
Shitty levels are better than their normal versions
sometimes, it depends on how they are made. Some of them are more fun and balanced, while others are poorly made and terrible
Honestly, I like playing shitty versions of top demons. They’re really fun once they’re not ridiculously hard.
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My hot takes based on this vid:
1. I honestly find flamewall to be extremely boring, I dont see the appeal.
2. Imo APT is generally a bad level, the deco is okay-ish and it fails to be a good remake.
3. Exasperation is a good level. Maybe its horrible to play, but its fun to watch. And enjoyability doesnt even matter as its meant to be impossible. The song choice is great, its not meant to be a good song that you might listen to. Its there for the creepy atmosphere.
1. honestly a 7 minute long top 1 with a camellia song verified by a player who isn’t zoink would be really nice to see
2. I can see why you wouldn’t like it… and I agree, buffing 2015 gameplay to be top 1 (or top 40 now) is just a horrible idea
3. yes, you’re based as hell, next
The exasperation hate will not be tolerated 😡. I mean its not perfect but I still find it entertaining
@@purplek1rblthe full camellia song is the only good thing about it tho take away that and its extremely generic
@@purplek1rbl
1. The deco is insanely boring. I like this kind of deco, but it doesnt work for long levels.
Apt is too unpolished and doesn’t live up to the standard of the most infamous level series
My hot takes:
1. The demon list shouldn’t be nearly as possible as it is. It ruins the game with how serious people are about the next top 1, which are all unfun pretty much copy and pasted gameplay levels. It’s all just straight fly, straight fly with orb, frame perfect jump, frame perfect wave, oops, all clubstep monsters, more straight fly. It also sparks unneeded drama.
2. Click Between Frames is the most unnecessary addition ever. It’s just stupid.
3. The deco in Tidal Wave isn’t the problem, the gameplay is.
4. Most hated gauntlet levels like Generation Retro and Scarlet Surge are good, but people just hate on them to hate on them and look cool.
5. 2.0 style wasn’t that bad. It’s honestly a nice and unique style compared to other styles.
6. Pixel deco sucks with the exception of like 2 levels.
1. Kind of agree, except for the gameplay part. 2. It helps everyone and makes the game more fair if bugless. 3. Those that actually get progress call it one of the most fun levels so idkwyo. 4. Generation Retro is genuinely unfun as hell. 5 and 6 I agree with
naw that aint a hot take thats a fucking billion degrees celcius take 💀
Hot take: Kratos is the meme top 1 we need.
One: we would have an absolute laugh seeing at the top of the demon list.
Two: Everyone who takes the game too seriously would be having a race to dethrone it like what happened with Tartarus.
Either way, it’s funny.
1:01 “everything in GD was better in 2020”
daily chat existing:
7:30 correction: not saying this is the hardest mobile completion, but that there is a harder mobile completion that Sonic wave, being Atomic Cannon MKII
correction: hardest mobile completion is Unnerfed Aerial Gleam completed by VERTOP and hardest mobile **demon** is Oblivion beaten by bemj80
Ah, you not saying this is hardest mobile completion. Ok, makes sense
10:20 swing sucks because it is rng which direction u end up going if you spam + at higher speeds the movement time of the swing copter makes it physically unsightreadable
im sure someone else mentioned it here but the anathema verification was just recently given to whizkid05, and i believe he started playing it on july 20th after he verified menace, which was only 5 days ago
id say thats a good sign we might finally see that level come out
There like half of the comment section saying about that lol
Thinking Space should be rated for the same reason Silent Clubstep should; they were both rate worthy at the time of creation but took years to be verified.
jumping is actively "ruining" the game for new players that many feel they have to jump from the nightmare to zodiac to ever be good at the game. Instead of taking the more slow route and improving over time sure it can work out but beating harder things isnt everything gd is about
Hot take: Tidal Wave isn't as good as everyone says it is. People keep looking at it as "It's not a hell themed top one, so it's amazing" when there are many flaws that can be seen even at normal speed. It's good at best.
if you're talking about deco, I can't really see the problems with it at full speed, it's mostly when people screenshot it or are like "this looks bad" based off vibes with no reasoning
The block design is not incredible at slower speeds, and it often gets repetitive. However. Its not played at slow speeds, and also, more importantly: block design and detail has very little basis on level opinions in many levels imo. I think the theming, song, character and history/reputation of a level always plays a way bigger role than people think. And in those regards, i think Tidal Wave is outstanding. Sure, objectively, the block design isnt great, but level opinions arent objective.
I definitely do agree that opinions are subjective. Don't let my hot take sway your opinion on the level. It's just for me, there are some things that just make me think that this level isn't the greatest top 1 demon we've had, let alone one of the greatest levels.
The 45% mini wave, the 62% blind transition, sometimes the color blending can make some objects look muddied, the 71% transition having a small gap, the last wave having some deco missing at the bottom... those are just a few examples.
Again, just some thing that make *me* think this isn't one of the greatest levels. If you have your opinions, again, that's completely fine. It's just how I see the level.
While I do agree that Tidal wave has many, many flaws, it’s a solo creation and I think that could give it some leeway. Also I might just be dumb but if Tidal wave was a 9 star or something, it would be rated and featured in an instant.
Still, I understand why you wouldn’t like mess that it is.
The challenge community is at the center of some of the game's recent flaws from 2020-now, top players with controversial personalities or no personalities, top levels with terrible gameplay and often uninteresting deco. It's always been one of the more toxic sub-communities up there with GD twitter and gameplay only creators but they leaked over into the top playing community causing it to be much worse compared to earlier top play eras like Riot/Sunix and Technical/nSwish.
7:32 the hardest completion on mobile is FAR harder than sonic wave, it’s dectuple spam legend, a super hard spam challenge, AND it was verified on 60hz on iOS with iCreate Pro. It would place in the top 15 if robtop for some reason decided to rate it, however its just a challenge created by UFWM while he was taking a shit (not even joking) and then copy pasted 10 times in a row.
Such an interesting idea. Really hard to guess what is harder dectuple spam legend or Unnerfed aerial gleam
8:10, rori actually dropped the level and whizkid05 is the new verifier
Whizkid is the new verifier of Anathema
Speaking as a new geometry dash player who came in after 2.2 and instantly got hooked, swingcopter is by FAR the worst game mode. I genuinely don't think it's a matter of "the community just needs to get used to it", i learned all the gamemodes in roughly the same amount of time and GOD swingcopter feels awful to control
based as i only joined after 2.2 too and have the same feeling about swing.
9:08 gameplay creativity-wise wise I think its the exact opposite. For any easy demon out there you can just buff it to extreme without changing gameplay ideas at all, now this is a recipe for bad gameplay but the point stands. Meanwhile, you cannot nerf all extreme gameplay ideas down to easy demon. Just by virtue of having more possible gameplay elements to work with extremes can be more creative in gameplay.
4:48 i would be on board but we have to remember that robtop is human too, he's just one guy and im sure that would put a lot of stress on him. tidal wave alone was incredibly stressful and we do not want that again.
8:50 oh HOLY MOLY THAT GRINDDDDS my gears! Everything I don’t believe in, in 1 comment. That is perfect. Honestly MASSIVE respect for the controversial comment of all time
Hot take: Robtop should add the icon outline color that he showed a concept of and animated icons!!!!!! Please rob
11:37 The question mark orbs aren't even unique to exasperation. Duelo Maestro has that ending section with a bunch of question mark orbs as well.
11:19 I beat Sonic Wave recently and I'm jumping to Bloodlust, can confirm this is very faaaalse
Robtop should create a game called "geometry dash"
No.
@@Deborah_swanson but we need "geometry dash" by robtop, i'm sick of this stupid game called "dash geometry" by toprob
@@dedennemaster I just don’t think the community would be strong for a game like that, it would die in a week
8:01. Flamewall by Narwall & More, nah Firewall by Hinds
you’ve reminded me to keep playing firewall 😭
@@purplek1rbl your wellcome
10:37 there needs to be a "recommended" page for gd levels because if a level isnt good enough quality to be rated but still fun to play and look at, people should be able to find the level
if an unknown creator makes a really good level but unfortunately doesnt get a send, chances are that the level will never break 1k downloads
You know what is actually scary? PPPLife with clicks.
Yo thx for putting cosmic dreamer in the background! It’s one of my favourite music! Also, i think that You an dailydoseofgd are our two News presenter in the comunity.
since tidal wave starts with T, we need a T I T trilogy
8:10 rori isnt the verifier anymore
Rori isn’t verifying anathema anymore now it’s whizkid05 (as a new hardest) and he has it in 5 runs
thinking space is underrated, i get that it's a bad level but it's not as bad as people say.
edit : i think the same thing about abyss of darkness.
Explorers should NOT have a bossfight!
Gauntlets should prioritize decoration a lot less than they do, and should prioritize different things from the rate standards
listening to you discussing easy demon rating over a grief footage with the scheming weasel -- perfect for my dinner
3:43 I don’t think we should add this feature because unlike what you said, challenge list levels that have good deco could be added.
"by the time rori actually veri-" OH NOONE TOLD HIM RORI GOT KICKED OFF THE LVL WHIZKIDS VERIFYING IT NOW
I thought misanthrope was actually the same as amethyst but with a different name
8:46 in terms of gameplay, I feel like I have much more freedom when making an extreme demon. I can make click patterns that are very satisfying to pull off, but too hard for any easy level. I don't have to worry too much about some gameplay feature being too difficult because well, it's supposed to be difficult.
One thing you could argue though, is that the gameplay of an extreme demon has to get fine tuned a lot more than the gameplay of an easier demon. But many people don't seem to care about that anyway somehow.
7:33 the hardest level beaten on mobile is aerial gleam top 48 (by Vertop in 144hz)
The hardest demon you right, BUT hardest level is Unnerfed Aerial Gleam beaten by VERTOP
8:08 rori dropped anathema and its being verified by Whizkid05 now and given how quickly he verified menace, it should be out within a couple of months
8:18 I've always thought of a top 1 using the '21st century humour rave song' by rocky. It'll go so hard
The Impossible Levels List needs higher standards, half the levels on there literally look like superbuffed map pack levels
exasperation is a cool level (especially the remake). the gp id pretty creative and the song and deco (even the layout) provide an interesting atmosphere
I feel like the rating system should have a small revamp, where if a level has fun gameplay but only completed decoration, it should only be star rated. Mainly just feel like deco and gameplay should both have a 50/50 grasp on if a level is rated or not.
Checked Steam is rated btw.
@@mapless0547 ??
CBF verification is one thing, but Grains of Sand being verified and no one noticed that is kind of upsetting.
7:33 definitely not sonic wave anymore
Deco standards are way too high now I believe that as long as a level is playable with good consistent gameplay it should be rated regardless of how its deco looks
11:29 thats the whole point of exasperation. it essentialy goes against every rule of creating. thats what makes it so cool. the song is meant to be jarring and unlistenable. the gameplay is meant to be unusual and weirdly structured. the level is meant to make you feel like you shouldnt be here and to leave as quickly as you can. i agree there isnt a good way to decorate it cuz it isnt meant to be decorated. but if the demon list ever allows unrated levels then i could see exasperation being a top 1 some day
7:43 Hardest 60hz mobile demon is yata, hardest hrr mobile demon is oblivion
Hardest hrr mobile demon is oblivion
erm actually 🤓☝ the current hardest 60hz mobile demon is cold sweat
@@jeffreylastname6863 erm actually its the rupture
@@jeffreylastname6863only pointercrate-wise, yata is 1 on the lrr mobile list
both you and jeffrey are wrong, it’s the rupture
It’s funny because like half the takes in this video weren’t really hot takes, they were just… takes.
11:30 exasperation is probably the most interesting impossible level i know
I Dont understand the hype for Ascension to heaven. Its gonna take forever and is probably gonna get a lot of hate once people are verifying it
People* You mean denii?
@@VistaIroha6000 yeah
Rori isn’t verifying anathema anymore
People should drop more lvls. GD a game after all and games are supposed to be fun. If u don't enjoy a lvl just drop it.
Hot take: Krmals gameplay isnt that bad (not counting endings) and some people dont like it cuz its diffrent than what people are used to
Please play xo
Yes
do people dislike krmal's gameplay nowadays???
The hardest thing beaten on mobile is actually unnerfed Arial Gleam or Oblivion (idk what’s harder), not sonic wave.
@@NoobyRubys finally someone commented that
how was there not a single one about platformer?? i guess my hot take is that people should just... care more about what I see as an equal to classic mode
Platformer mode is just not it imo, I don’t even care if a legendary platformer is rated
@@exiled_shadegd I could say the same about classic, but I'm still interested in learning things about it (why I watched this)
@@rtnman interesting
Hot Take: Avernus Has Some Good Decoration.
8:10 whizkid is the verifier now and he has the level in 5 runs so far
4 now lol
Exasperation being uninteresting is unironically the hottest take in this video. Not to mention a bunch were probably bait
possibly hot take: creators should need an epic level before they can get a certain number or cp. The top, 5 i think, just spam featured levels almost daily. Its impossible for any real cratirs (i dont consider them real creators) to reach the top.
8:19 schafs 2 is a meme top 1, but its not normal top 1, its ILL top 1
8:00 Yes, FireWall. My favorite upcoming top-10
exasperation is really good for what it tries to do. its supposed to be annoying and suck to play, and considering you dont like it for those exact reasons, it defos succeeded.
and this might be a bit hot but decorating the layout ruins the charm entirely
silent clubstep probably will be placed above acheron at some time in the future and if element 111 rg ever gets placed on the demonlist it will probably be bellow silent clubstep
"We need a meme top 1" Well currently the (unrated) platformer list has one
Edit: nvm Super Temu Guy got moved to 4 :(
The issue with the swing is that we already got so used to the swing copter. If it had the same physics people would like it way more.
I think the swingcopter has much stronger gravity, meaning you need to click a lot faster, making it more interesting for top play. Swing has much slower speeds and is better for casual play. I think they both have their own niches and i doubt people are getting confused by the physics, its just like mini vs full size physics
@@Sepi-chu_loves_moths even if someone loves the swing, they have to admit that the mini swing is absolutely broken lol. I have to lower the gravity when I build with it to make it playable, especially for easier difficulties.
@@GoesByJ I will mention that the mini problem is even worse with swingcopter
The last tome mobile players had relevance in the best player discussion was around 2014-2016
Doggie, thnnder and demisho are the most underrated top players this game has ever seen (besides maybe crisis)
when you said wpopoff could be the player known for surpassing zoink, what about doggie bc i feel like he has just as high of a chance (mainly thanks to grief)
I very much disagree with the mobile top play vs computer top play thing. There are many more top pc players than mobile players and thus the skill on pc has been pushed a lot further than what is comparatively possible on the mobile level of top play.
But Oblivion on mobile is still kinda impressive
I mean surely 2.2 physics is set to 240hz and framerate is not an issue with 120hz phones
I feel like a top 10 could be beaten on mobile
@@Xnoob545 VERTOP did have Acheron in 4 runs on mobile on 2.1but right now he left GD
Rori is not verifying anathema anymore, whizkid05 is
Someone on Reddit said Belladonna is over hated and deserves a rate, and started fighting anyone who disagreed. That's the reddit way.
calling sonic wave mobile harder than tidal wave is absurd 😭
ye, because already levels like Unnerfed Aerial Gleam (around SWI) and Oblivion was beaten on mobile
hot take : RobTop should rate top CBF verified extreme demons, because if you play top demons you probly have acces to CBF
that's not a hot take
Day 21 of asking Wavix to do this: What if Zoink had a heart attack and died, causing Spaceuk to return to the community with no hacks. Then, with the help of cherry team, space verifies bloodlust 2 and becomes immortalized as the verifier. Alternatively, you could just have Zoink dying from a heart attack.
Bruh wth u talking about
That's one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard, it's disrespectful to so many people in so many ways
that is... interesting
@@wiglett_what the hell do you mean this is an awesome idea
Hot take: we’re making too many gauntlets and abusing its popularity to show off mediocre levels. Not all levels there are mediocre, but most
Ofc they will feel mediocre, most of them are 2.1
you say we as if it's our fault robtop woke up one day and decided to pick some mid levels for a random gauntlet
almost all of the 2.2 gauntlets have been bangers imo I disagree
Theyre way better recently (2.2) imo. Its not that the levels are mid its just there are many different levels, and its very subjective what levels people like. the idea that you have to beat every single level in the gauntlet is fundamentally flawed though. Gd levels are very different and people like very different things, not to mention many people cant run a lot of guantlet levels without lag, so with five levels in a row theres often at least one that you really hate. Imo a skip feature would make the gauntlets way better
2.2 gauntlets are good but like scarlet surge and kappaclysm are worse than mediocre imo
RobTop will never accept CBF verifications bc he said he will add this as a feature next update, so if Doggie verifies Grief this will just put pressure on RobTop to make the next update (which would be cool)
8:01 firewall 💀
by hinds
I honestly put deco above gameplay- I like levels that are gorgeous to watch and look at more than to play