What if Bruce Lee fought all the other martial arts actors?
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- Who would win in a martial arts battle: Bruce Lee, or any of the other popular martial arts actors we all know and love? How would Bruce Lee fair against the likes of Chuck Norris, Donnie Yen, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Stephen Seagal, Jean Claude Van Dam, or Tony Jaa?
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"Everyone's first fight sucks" I smiled because that's totally true, my first competition was a karate point fight, I was 15, my opponent was 17, I was white belt, he was a brown belt, my guard was wider than old school boxing stance and the guy realised (probably because all his kicks were getting in easy) and he KO'ed me with an spinning hook kick (ushiro ura mawashi) straight to the nose and... sleep, I dreamed of Speedy Gonzales 😁
You absolutely took me back to the past right now, on my first karate competition I went will all my friends, back then all around 11 years of age, with our white and yellow and whatever color of the rainbow belts to the mat I thought we were gonna compete, just for me alone to be dragged away out of the 9-11 bracket, and thrown in the 12-15 one since I was 2 days 12 already and similar to you, my first fight was a 15yo brown belt. I spend the whole fight just covering my face, the idea of offensive never crossed my mind even though in a point match it wouldnt be such a bad one, altough looking back a lot of kids won their fight by just making the other kid cry, and in a similar fashion I was dragged out crying after the bigger kid beat the crap out of my arms.
@@saawysorenson4585 I didn't have a chance to cry 😅😂😂😂 (insert windows shut down sound)
Not everyone's xD I've seen some guys open up like goddamn experts. My first fight sucked and that's alright but it certainly isn't everyone xD
Um...you realize that no one dreams when kaoed right? it's just blank and then your back in whatever position you were left in remembering you were in the middle of a fight...nice try
Why would they put you... a white belt with a brown belt?
When you say someone can beat Jackie Chan, do you mean inside a fully stocked warehouse or in a boxing ring?
"I’m not in this world to live up to your expectations and you’re not in this world to live up to mine." - Bruce Lee
Who cares he was a fake
Greeks invented all the sayings. Asians just copied off of Greeks. Just like the world. Everyone wants to be a Greek.
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed your existence is fake
@@cyborgchicken3502 I would make you straight. Fact!
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeedbeing a martial artist doesn’t make you a fake. He just wasn’t a fighter. He advocated for the healthy lifestyle and discipline martial arts can bring. He never advocated for getting into fights. He was a martial artist and an actor. Not a fighter. So again, that doesn’t make him a fake.
Regardless of how skilled Bruce Lee may or may not have been he was absolutely tiny. Size is a huge advantage.
I always wonder why do ppl only class Bruce at only 135? It was recorded that he did max out at 170lbs.? I'd say 170 is a good mid weight; i.e. Gergoe St Pierre in his competition is 170. I wouldn't call him tiny.
@@gatorcroc7212 i would be super interested in your sources man
I agree completely. I have respect for Lee - as he was, ya know? He had a very basic grasp of grappling (especially ground fighting), and was of below average size… though he had excellent conditioning and his walking weight was lean muscle. Any well-rounded, natural 170+ MMA practitioner would just maul the dude. Hell, Lee knew these things & was actively improving his grapple game. That drive to better himself and his (imho) cohesive philosophy are why I respect Bruce Lee, more than his fighting prowess.
@@antonioyeats2149 His highest weight was 160 , lowest 125 in enter the dragon .
Correct , but you can have size and can’t fight a lick.
I'm 5'8". 180 lbs is my high school weight and I was fit and reasonably muscular. As an adult, 200, trained is fit. I seem to be heavier or more solid than others my height that consider 180 as heavy/fat/ out of shape. I dunno. But my 5'5" Chinese Kung Fu master can hit me so hard that I felt it thru my body and started hurting more [internally] 2 days later, than when I was hit. Theres def a element here being missed by the emphasis on size/weight/ power delivery. Dan inosanto said Bruce Lee had deceptively unbelievable power for a guy you would write off as a small. My master was the same. I saw him hit and school 6 ft guys. I'm gonna say there's an underestimation here. Lee got to a level of fitness where he would hit the heavy bag 1000 times a day, every day. He had king Fu schools where he sparred with students twice his size, all the time.
@Fredrick Frederickson i know what you mean. id prob be bruce lee ripped at 160. never been there. haha, but at 180 i was pulling skin off my upper body and had 'enough' fat on my belly. gotta get there again. so the gym bros at 210, 220, are probe 20 lbs heavier than burce lee in muscle? he couldve punch thru an extra 20 lbs of muscle and 30 lbs of fat. And the head is the head, no matter how large you are (unless you necked out in traps like the dude in the netflix 'killer sally' Ray McNeil). Id say height would be bruce lee's biggest disadvantage, not weight. fighting a 6'2" +++ guy, Lee would have to resort to ball shots, skin twisting, finger breaking, all tactics illegal in MMA.
Bruce was training 25 to 30 hours a week. Thousands of reps per week. Finger jabs, punches, kicks, body mechanics, footwork etc.
He trained with anyone of any size from any background. He has many full contact sparring matches and they weren’t nobodies either.
Joey Orbillo, Hayward Nishioka, Joe Lewis. Be beat Chuck Norris behind Closed doors, although you will never hear Chuck Norris talk about this. It was kept on the down low by many people, including Bruce.
Check out John Little’s interviews on the Kung fu genius channel. Very very informative stuff.
He also has a recent book that just came out called wrath of the dragon: the real fights of Bruce Lee
It’s throughly researched and well documented. Definitely worth reading.
When you said “Steven Seagal could eat…” I really expected you to finish with “Bruce.”
Lol. Steven seagal is a joke. He can't even do a proper Swift move in movies and how is he gonna do it in real life?
Mark Dacascos is a premium martial artist.
in his prime he won a lot of gold medals
I know he doesn't count, but Randall "Tex" Cobb is a boxer/kickboxer turned actor. He has a win vs Leon Spinks, and losses to Earnie Shavers and Ken Norton. So he was probably the most dangerous actor in Hollywood.
Excellent; Randall " Tex" Cobb was truly formidable; he was a professional boxer with a really pretty good pro record.
He also appeared in the Chuck Norris show "Walker Texas Ranger" and I laughed at the thought that he would lose against Chuck when in reality he would have won Tex Cobb clearly !!!!!
Did you guys see the interview where Georges St-Pierre talked about using several concepts and techniques he learned from Bruce Lee? The video's title is "GSP talks explains how karate and Bruce Lee help his wrestling".
Anderson Silva also, has mentioned using Bruce's techniques several times!
Both GSP and Silva would comfortably wipe the floor with Bruce Lee.
@@RRTNZ Of course they would, they both have a size advantage and are more skilled, but they both use things from Bruce Lee and I'm simply pointing that fact out...calm down
look, many people started doing Martial Arts because of films with Bruce, it is a fact. Did Anderson Silva use BL techniques? To win his fights, he was using MT, BJJ rather than WC or JKD.
Just a bunch of nonsense.
Bruce Lee was a great conceptual martial artist and a visionary for his era. He was also inducted into the BLACK BELT Hall Of Fame as the Instructor Of the Year for 1972.
Lee made some legitimate contributions in terms of philosophy on the martial arts, though there were others during his era and even before him that took it much further and in greater depth. He did have the largest public platform for this though.
Lee also did make some contributions in terms of technical advances that are still used by elite fighters and coaches today. He was the first to adapt the weapon first concept from fencing into punching with his non-telegraphic lead straight or what Jhoon Rhee and his student Muhammad Ali called the “accupunch.” He also made great strides in the advancement of the use of set point control in stand up striking.
Joe Lewis, who lived many decades longer than Lee took these concepts much further and shared with the next generation of fighters and coaches and obviously others took the ball and ran with it, but much of the early ground work was set up by Lee’s early work. Lewis said of Lee that he “was a great teacher and an actor, not a fighter.”
Many people who actually have a real fighting background are so annoyed by the cult of Bruce Lee fans and their obnoxious worship of their mythical superhuman character, that they don’t give the actual man the credit that he deserves. They annoy me too, but Lee didn’t create the Bruceploitation industry and all of it’s fan fiction.
Ramsey, you have the courage to speak the truth. Bruce Lee had no interest in excelling as a sports competitor. He devoted himself to self defense techniques and, in that regard, he claimed his most dangerous technique was his finger jabs to the eyes. Because, after he blinds you, the rest of the fighting will go his way. He appeared fast and technically skilled so eye gouging would be a very good way to defeat his opponents...myself included.
He really doesn't,, he's just upset that he doesn't have natural coordination and talent, and people that don't have that natural talent get really mad at someone that does, because people like that no matter how much you practice by just sheer reflexes they can beat you. This has nothing to do with fighting Gary Elms, it has to do with the countless fights Bruce was in as said by family members for years of his upbringing.
One thing Bruce has on his side is that he's athletic and driven from what one could tell by limited "feel" (as you say). :) Comparing his athleticism to other actors though is kinda tough.
Now Benny Urquidez... :) He fought (sporting) and "acted". ;) I think he'd probably beat most of the list.
This guy is full of it the words of Jim Kelly bolo yeung and a few others in the fighting world about Bruce's abilities are good enough for me .
Bruce Lee could beat William Zabka, Martin Kove, John Carradine (Carradine is a wimp and a perv), Sylvester Stallone (maybe), Keanu Reeves (I think), Patrick Swayze, Donnie Yen, Jackie Chan, Yuji Okumura, Bruce Willis, and of course, Ralph Macchio (EASILY). 😁😁😁
Bruce Lee vs. Pat Johnson would be interesting…. Not sure there…. Same deal with Jason Statham. Pretty sure Carl Weathers could take Bruce Lee, but I am not 100% sure. Actually, I might be wrong about that, but Carl was VERY muscular…. Seagal and Lee would have been on more of an equal footing, I think. If Bolo trained more in martial arts, Bolo Yeung could have held his own against Bruce Lee. Arnold Schwarzenegger vs. Bruce Lee, wow…. I mean, I would pay good money to see that fight. Thing is, Arnold really wasn’t a “fighter”…. Wesley Snipes vs. Bruce Lee = Also unsure. Ron Thomas might put up a good fight against Bruce, also not sure…
Marshall Teague would probably beat Bruce Lee. Obviously Michael Jai White would beat Bruce. Same deal with Scott Adkins, Benny Urquidez (that guy was INSANELY, MIND BLOWINGLY TOUGH), Anthony De Longis, Dolf Lundgren, Mr. T., Ong Soo Han, Dwayne Johnson, Vin Diesel (probably, not sure), Randy Couture, Terry Crews, Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan/Terry Bollea (OBVIOUSLY), Matt Mullins, eh, lots of really big/lean/tough guys, basically, that are also actors.
Upon guestimatimating the outcome between various martial arts competitors... you never truly know the outcome until one takes place.
That is a funny and reasonable question!
I agree almost everything aside Jackie Chan. He's a great athlete and stuntman, I assume he's confident with pain, that's a good factor in a fight.
I hope for a martial actor tier list now! :D
agreed when you see Jackie in his prime from 20 to 25 yo and his harsh physical training he would hold his own facing Bruce, it would be a difficult fight for both of them
Bruce Lee the of martial art masters 5 year old and street fighter 16 year old world record book fester speed hand/kick boxing champion and nunchucks best fighter Bruce Lee
No such world records exist.
"such a massive weight advantage" 😁... He would eat Bruce Lee's punches and Bruce as well.
Ramsey Dewey I pick Bruce Lee over Jackie Chan because because Bruce Lee seemed more combative in fact seemed more combative than all of the martial Art stars with the possible exception of Steven Segal but who knows I would have to see the fights.
Chuck is such a gracious and honorable man that the world still believes that Bruce could beat him.
Because Bruce could. Simple and plain.
Then why was he Bruce lee's student,if he could beat him.
@@garyconner6151 I could have said Chuck BEAT him on MULTIPLE occasions but it won't matter to you.
You'll believe what you want.
Bruce was not by far the baddest man on the planet at that time.
@@garyconner6151 Why was Mike Tyson training with Cus who he could've easily killed. Being a good instructor doesn't necessarily translate to being an amazing fighter.
@@garyconner6151Chuck was bigger and had way more experience. CHuck beats Bruce.
Before people even talk about Bruce Lee and size defeating him in a fight,they should take a look at a clash he had with Joe Louise a World Heavyweight Karate and Taekwondo Champion.Bruce Lee cut through him like a hot knife through butter.Bruce Lee wasn’t even trying.You could see who is the boss. Joe Louise was at least 6ft tall and a World Heavyweight Karate and Taekwondo Champion.Bruce Lee made him look like a baby.I was tempted to listen to Michael Jai White before I saw this, but now I come down on the side of Jim Kelly.To Bruce Lee size doesn’t matter. The guy who starred as the crime boss in the Way Of The Dragon said Bruce Lee was the fastest and the strongest human being he had ever come across.
My father always told me that 9 times out of 10 a good big man will beat a good small man. In my youth, I sparred full contact with a new guy in our Kung Fu studio. I squared off with him. He looked fat and slow to me so I thought I would toy with him a little. He hit me square in the chest with a spinning back kick that I'm still looking for. It knocked the air out of several of my ancestors. I went flying into a wood post. I woke up to my Sifu chewing me out saying something about "long foot". He had a heavy Chinese accent, he meant "wrong foot." At the time I was so out of it I kept looking at my feet trying to figure out which one was long. Gotta watch those big guys, they ain't slow.
You would have to hit a fire plug like Chuck Norris pretty damn hard to knock him out of the game.
Why do people like you insist on going on comment sections and spouting off these silly fricken stories? None of that happened. You are clearly lying. People dont get koed by a strike to the chest. Thats not how knockouts work in real life. Its just not.
I can name several action stars and just enjoy the actions. I can still call out the unrealistic.
I used to be a JKD instructor and I agree completely with you!
Thank you for letting us know you definitely don’t know how to fight
@@Hawidaku That’s not really fair. I am by profession a MMA and grappling coach and was a pro kickboxer in my youth and later a World Masters No-Gi Champion in Jiu-Jitsu.
JKD has been left far behind by the evolution of combat sports and real fighting. I will not deny that, but virtually ANY trained martial artist is going to have an edge on untrained fighters and JKD is going to be more realistic than many other systems that don’t have as much emphasis on practical application.
Would I favor JKD over modern MMA, K-1, Muay Thai, Sanda fighters or Submission Grapplers? Obviously not, but it was at least philosophically and training wise, a step in the right direction. As was Kajukenbo and other hybrid systems.
Along the same lines, while Bruce Lee was deliberately creating an image and a brand, none of the ludicrous claims made by his cult of fans are from him. The mythical superhuman character mostly evolved after his death. Yes, he was creating an image to market and some of the things he did in that process were less than honest, but most of that bullshido was created by others after he passed.
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@@DavidHughesKJN I seriously doubt the claims you just made to your experience, according to your other comments you’re also a ninth degree black belt and have an iq of 181 among the highest iq levels ever, which is ignoring the fact that iq tests are bull shit anyway and no business, military, or school actually gives any value to “IQ” tests.
@@DavidHughesKJN Shh, you're interrupting the overcorrection that Bruce lee was a charlatan on par with Ashida Kim and that JKD is worse than aikido! We can't have *nuance* in a discussion about Bruce Lee! He was either an unbeatable god who could thrash professional fighters or he was literally George Dillman!
Bruce Lee would of kicked ass on All of them One by One down the line...
The King of Kung Fu was so advanced back in 1973....
How much more advanced he would be in today's time if he was still alive.
🤣🤣LOL.....Fanboys
Here's the thing about Segal, in my opinion.
I think he's an accomplished Martial Artist, and yeah he's overweight (probably due to a legitimate thyroid condition), but he's also 70+ and STILL trains in his own way. Is he a fighter? No not professionally. Can he fight? That depends. Are we talking professionally or if confronted on the street, YES there is a difference!
The man has skill and technique. Even at his peak when in better shape (when he was in his late 30s pushing 40 btw) his size would be a great advantage. He has cross trained in several styles, so he's not limited to Aikido (which he is more of a proper Aikijutsu guy).
Is he arrogant? Sure. What martial artist isn't to some degree?
Could he beat Bruce Lee? In his prime (30 years ago) yes I believe he would be able to.
But like you said, he does have respect for Bruce, as many others do, and probably would bow out of an actual fight if it ever happened.
He may play with Bruce Lee and do light sparring, but probably wouldn't want to fight him legitimately, only out of respect.
I honestly get tired of hearing all the bashing people do about Segal. It really does get immature and old after a decade or so lol.
Bruce Lee may not win the fight, but he has won the war! More people know his name than all these other actors and fighters combined! LOL
That's true. In a Lee biography, it's mentioned that Steve McQueen said he wouldn't help Bruce gain movie stardom. As big a movie star as Mcqueen was, Bruce was on the Mount Rushmore of stardom along with Elvis, MJ and Ali. All generations know those four but not all generations know McQueen. Having said that, I still think bruce was overrated as a fighter due to lack of fights against high level fighters.
See that’s the thing people tend to get wrong about Bruce. He was a martial artist. Not a fighter. He of course was a very capable human being, but he was about the discipline and philosophy and lifestyle of martial arts. He never advocated for fighting.
Bruce Lee vs. Frank Dux, Ashida Kim, or Count Dante.
My hard earned money would be on Dolph Lundgren to win out of all the modern martial arts actors. He is freaking massive.
Personally I believe that Bruce’s major contribution to the martial arts world isn’t his techniques it’s his philosophy of fighting. Frankly the technique of Jkd is a bit underwhelming compared to other martial arts but his ideas of mixing styles were ahead of there time and very important. Not to discount gene labell because if I were he might come back from the grave and choke me
Bruce Lee beats all of them. The ONLY 2 that would have a chance I think would be Van Damme. He beats everyone else I think. Bruce Lee was a beast. Who had more knowledge than most, he was in incredible shape and he was strong for his size. Just bc you aren’t a fighter for your professions doesn’t mean you can’t beat professional fighters. There was no money in it back then which is why martial artists be some actors.
Bruce weight lifting program literally shows that he was 3 times weaker than the powerlifters of his weight and size. " Just bc you aren’t a fighter for your professions doesn’t mean you can’t beat professional fighters." yes but he odds would favour Jon Jones over any non professional fighter 9 out of 10 times
I'd be the best fighter pilot ever, if I ever actually flew a plane. I train at it a lot, doing flight simulations for hours a day, every day in my living room. There might be some very blurry footage of me maybe flying a Cessna once, but mostly I just allow everyone to exaggerate how great of a fighter pilot I am and how I'd beat every single other pilot out there, maybe even if you put them all together, because I practice on the flight simulator a lot and am really, really good at it.
Other question, what about Jeff Speakman? Who I believe still teaches.
I think history shows from time to time the under dog do win. I would not write off any of those fighters - size is not a guarantied outcome, but of cause a huge advantage. Mike Tyson clearly showed that he could beat bigger guys
In my experience size only matters to a certain point. Once you have the power to break bones its all about how fast you can hit with that force.
Well we know Bruce hit hard enough to break bones because people in his movies especially the stuntmen got broken even when the force went through the hitting bags first. Bob Wall testified to this after accidentally getting hit too hard by Bruce during a fight scene. Bob didn't get a broken bone but the guys who were catching him when he went flying did get broken bones from it. Jackie Chan has testified that Bruce accidentally hit him too hard in a scene and sent him flying too.
I have to think that Bruce was legit because all of the best fighting champions of his time came to train and spar with him. Ali trained with Bruce. Norris trained with Bruce. Sugar Ray trained with Bruce. Sugar ray says Bruce was incredibly powerful and faster than you can imagine. Sugar ray is one of the best boxers of all time and stated that Bruce could EASILY defeat people much larger than him. Norris both learned from Bruce and taught things to Bruce. Norris was one of the top Champions of his time and there is now way he would have wasted his time with Bruce if he wasn't gaining something from it. In fact Norris loved Bruce so much that when Bruce died Norris took over training martial arts to his son Brandon Lee. Norris and Bruce had mutual respect for each other and that just doesn't come from nowhere. Ali, is someone I have met several times because he didn't live that far from me. He is such a nice guy and he LOVES to talk on some days and on other days he gets a bit brooding and won't say much due to the brain punch he suffered. Still, I always was happy to help him out when he came into our store. Anyways one day he just felt like talking about Bruce and how they trained together for a while after his bodyguard convinced him of it. He was surprised by how fast and strong he was but of course he knew he could beat him hahaha. I believe Ali would win that match too but then I always believe Ali could beat anyone except maybe Rocky Marciano during Rocky's time. I think Ali wins in modern boxing rules for sure though and Bruce Lee said as much so I believe him.
I don't think Lee would win against many of the best fighters of today like Tyson for example. The reason I say that is not due to lack of ability but because martial arts has come such a long ways since he was pioneering things. Like how would you compare Barry Bond in baseball to say Babe Ruth? Babe Ruth was just a freak of his time but Barry Bonds is a highly engineered freak of all time. It's just an unfair comparison. Now if you have Bruce Lee today at his prime after he has absorbed all the progress martial arts has made ... well I believe he would be a holy terror at least before that really bad back injury he suffered.
I just think with Bruce Lee's speed there are not many that would last very long since he hit way above his weight. Would that translate to being heavy weights? Probably not but I bet he could do well and be a light weight to maybe middleweight champion. I do think he wipes the floor with Seagal and Jean-Claude Van Damme though because those two are just way too slow to block Bruce Lee. I don't think Van Damme thinks he could win either and since he idolizes Bruce Lee I don't think he would mind that at all.
I didn’t make it through all 15 pages of this, but Bruce Lee never met Muhammad Ali let alone trained with him. Sugar Ray Leonard was a kid when Bruce Lee died. They never trained together. There are a lot of things you believe about Bruce Lee that are simply not true.
As long as there's props, Jackie ain't losing to anyone.
And Tony Jaa is going to be in top5 at least
He would have whooped all those professional fighters asses he demonstrated against & trained with that's for sure.
If we ignore size, weight, and sex differences it gets interesting. I’m going to focus on 4 qualities, martial arts training, trackable fight experience, athleticism and x-factor (those qualities that make each person unique). I’m pulling all of this off of wikipedia; while not the most reliable source of information it should be accurate enough for a youtube comment section.
Chuck Norris
He has has Alot of fight experience, he’s trained in Tang Soo Do, taekwondo, karate, brazilian jiu jitsu and judo. So he’s a solid all rounder. He also palled around with great fighters and martial artists from his time, guys like Joe Lewis (the kickboxer), Gene Lebell, BIll Wallace, some others i’m probably forgetting. He also knew Bruce and more importantly trained together with him; so he likely knows Bruce pretty well. So I think Brucey boy loses pretty hard to his friend. (unrelated but interesting anecdote Chuck allegedly had to pack on 30 lbs for his role in The Way of the Dragon. So imagine Chuck Norris with a six pack under all that body hair.)
Jean Claude van Damme
He has trained in Shōtōkan karate, kickboxing, Taekwondo, Muay Tai and and ballet. So he’s a striker with an emphasis on kicks. He has fought professionally and that experience means a lot in a fight. He’s got hella athleticism from the dance practice to back up his martial arts and fight experience. I have no x-factors to give though. This is probably another loss for Bruce.
Dolph Lundgren
He has a 4th dan black belt in Kyokushin karate and boxing training thanks to his role in rocky IV. He has fight experience becoming european champion in 1980-1981 and captained the Swedish kyokushin karate team as a green belt (damn). He has has done work as a nightclub bouncer, so that says alot about his ability and willingness to throw hands. I think this is another loss for bruce.
Steven Segal.
Lets see, no trackable fight experience, trained in aikido, which doesn’t exactly have a great reputation or track record in fights. No cross training that I could find, and judging from the way he runs, I’d say he’s pretty light on athleticism. I don't actually see any x-factors here to shout out. So I think Bruce actually wins this one.
Jackie Chan,
Jackie is heavily trained in peking opera, giving them tremendous athleticism. He’s clearly trained in quite a few different styles of classical Kung fu; whether that’s useful in a fight or not is debatable. He has no trackable fight experience but he worked with Benny “the jet” Urquidez; real life bad ass pro kickboxer (seriously if you don’t know who he is; look him up he’s pretty amazing) how much real fight knowledge has rubbed off on Jackie is anyone’s guess. Jackie is also a professional stuntman, so he’s got tons of durability. He also worked with Bruce, but I don't think that relationship would have much effect on their fight. I think Bruce probably wins this one; but i think he’s going to take alot of damage taking ol’ jackie down.
Sammo Hung
Very much like Jackie and Yuen, he’s trained in peking opera so he’s got that athleticism; and classical kung fu training. He’s also trained in Hapkido; that difference from Jackie and is what is causing me to separate the three dragons into individuals (I was going to lump them together). He also worked with both Bruce and Benny “the jet” Urquidez. So there’s that. I don’t see any trackable fight experience. I’m going to give this the same rating as with Jackie and give the win to Bruce; as I honestly don’t know how effective Hapkido is.
Yuen Biao
Rounding out the last of the three dragons. We have Yeun Biao. LIke Jackie and Sammo he has peking opera and classical kung fu training. He has worked with Benny Urquidez, and also doubled for Bruce so there’s that and has stunt work showing he's tough. But like the others there’s no trackable fight data. Wikipedia also doesn’t have much as he’s less famous than the other two. So I also have to give the win to bruce.
Synthia rothrock
She has some fighting experience and has extensive martial arts training; namely Tang Soo Do, Taekwondo, Eagle claw kung fu, wushu, northern shaolin kung fu, Ng Ying Kung fu, (how is that pronounced?) pai lum white dragon kung fu. I can’t find any specific x-factors here and since this is a hand-to-hand fight I can't call upon her extensive weapons training. The number of martial arts under her belt makes her very unpredictable and gives her lots of options to call upon and she can really mix things up. Since we are throwing out sex differences; id say she pulls out the win against Bruce. Although a weapons fight (hook swords vs nunchucks) would be pretty cool, I think it’s beyond the scope of this ...essay... comparison? thing).
Don “the dragon” Wilson
This guy is bad news for Bruce. 11 time world champion kickboxer with 47 knockouts. Placed 4th in the Florida state collegiate wrestling competition. Has trained in kickboxing, pai lum white dragon kung fu and Gōjū-ryū Karate. He’s ambidextrous meaning he switches stances easily and favors both sides equally. He took on fighters in thailand and beat them. He’s fought for FOUR DECADES. So he’s got tremendous fight experience. Yeah Bruce loses this one pretty hard.
Robin Shou
That’s right Lui Kang made the list. Lets see, trained in Kenpo, wushu and karate. Wikipedia doesn’t give specifics on any of those. There’s no mention of fight experience and he doesn’t seem to have anything specific to call out for an x-factor. So I’m going to have to give this one to Bruce. Honestly, he's not a particularly famous or a standout martial arts actor anyway; his Wikipedia article seems to reflect that.
Michael Dudikoff
The American Ninja has trained in Karate, aikido, judo, brazilian jiu-jitsu (under Rorion Gracie none the less), He’s quite athletic, getting the role of the American Ninja without any martial arts training. He picked up his martial arts training afterwards. So I'm giving him a good athleticism score. He has no fight experence But his grappling makes him a bad match up for Bruce. So if it goes to that he wins, if they stay on their feet then i think bruce’s striking would be superior. I'm gonna give it to the American Ninja base on his grappling and athleticism as i think the most likely outcome is for Dudikoff to double leg, or throw him and then tie him up into a pretzel.
Phillip Rhee
Is he really the best of the best? Lets see, 6th dan blackbelt in taekwondo, 3rd dan black belt in hapkido, wing chun and boxing. He has some fight experience, really the boxing and taekwondo training makes him a dangerous striker. I don’t see any x-factors to shout out and have nothing to judge his athleticism. Honestly this one could go either way; But I think the boxing/taekwondo combo plus fight experience pushes him over the top. so I think it's another loss for Bruce.
Whew. That's exhausting and fairly exhaustive. I’m sure there’s plenty more I haven’t done, but that’s quite a few. Looks like Bruce Lee wins 5/12 fights. Not terrible but not great either. I think that qualifies as holding his own and earning him a spot in the middle of the pack. If this is a tournament setting then Bruce's ability to advance really depends on who he ends up fighting first and who gets knocked out of the tournament each round. Chuck Norris and Don Wilson are the two clear favorites to win the tournament, so if they fight each other early, then things get MUCH easier for Bruce Lee as one of them (probably chuck Norris) is knocked out of the tournament.
if this is some sort of weird round robin situation where everyone fights each other once; then i think we'll see results matching up to what I have here. in which case everyone gets beat up by Chuck Norris and Don "the dragon" wilson. i think Bruce holds up better than some of the others though. anyway my big take away is that i should pay more attention to Don the dragon wilson and cynthia rothrock and i got the urge to watch a kung fu movie.
Other martial arts actors.... Gordon Liu (Hong Gar background), Lo Meng (Southern Mantis background) and Jimmy Wang Yu, Lo Meng was pretty beefy so he might win. Gordon Liu is a maybe. Jimmy Wang Yu doesn't feel like much of a martial artist so.....
How are they fighting and for what goal?
"No" -Dolph Lundgren
What did Jim Kelly say unlike you he knew Bruce Lee. He said in his opinion Bruce Lee was the greatest Martial Artist who ever lived. He said the guy really knew his stuff. Kelly said I sparred with the best and fought the best. He said Bruce Lee was untouchable. He said I seen the guys he sparred with the best out there. I won't name any names out of respect, but they know who they are. He said Bruce was like Michael Jordan a level above all of us. And Jim Kelly was the Karate world middle weight champion. Thats like saying Stallone for Rocky 2 He flew Muhammad Ali and Joe Fraizer out told them they were going to be in rocky 2. Joe Frazier said Rocky is a smart guy sparred with him sucked up the knowledge he had and didn't call him back. Then Ali said and didn't get paid either. Everyone laughed and asked Ali you were there too? So, they sparred Stallone. They we're saying Stallone is the greatest Boxer that ever lived. Bruce Lee was way more than an actor. Oh, and Duran Spared with. Stallone said he couldn't even see the punches.
Only this guy would think chuck would win in a real fight with Lee. I'm not talking about a tournament fight with gloves and rules either but to say seagal could touch Lee is unrealistic.
Nah, Chuck Norris thought so too.
Only silly fanboys think Bruce was a fighting god
This guy should listen to Bob Wall (r.i.p) speaking of Seagal...
By the way, Wall was a really strong guy, the only one who represented a rival for Lee.
Wall = appeared in lee's movies, a friend of lee. He made money because of lee. It's expected that he would shower lee with praises.
Bob Wall was not even top 100 in the real Karate World. Wall like Lewis only won made up titles in their made up US federation. Otti Roethoff, Ludwig Kotzebue, Hiroshi Shirai, Alain Setrouk, Gilbert Gruss and many others would have easily defeated Bob Wall (who was slow and not very strong). Gotta love the Americans and their fantasy land version of Karate events 🙂 Bob Wall was in reality an US champion at best compared to the world Karate elite, The US who is not even top 10 country all time world titles and medals in Karate (coutries like Japan and France are number one and 2, even tiny Spain and Italy and tinier Netherlands got more world titles gold, silver and bronze medals than the USA)
Hope you do another break down video of DK yo. Lol vs Manny. Last one was funny
All of them at once
Nice work pointing out the obvious (even though so many don’t want to hear it) - no chance against professional fighter. Was he athletic enough to be a pro fighter in a modern MMA era? Probably...... but he wasn’t a pro fighter and didn’t evolve with modern MMA, so we will never know.
An actor doesnt. Create a style of combat … an actor would not have to say how to fight (with his Own explication in a Book that Name « my méthode of fight « that Guy was a Genius without him people would have stayed in karaté ,boxing ,or just Bjj. He was far away of the mechanical of combat . if you want to swim you Ve got to go in the water . His goals was to spread his style The only fact is we cannot know his Level and i think is not really smart to say that the Guy was not a fighter he changed the face of martial art
Cung Le......might have a chance 😁
Big don't make you bad.
But Bruce Lee also had said in the same interview the Pierre
Burton Show; as an actor, as a martial artist, and as a human
being. So someone or anyone should go check out that
same interview the Pierre Burton Show. There once again
Bruce Lee had stated not only as a human being, as an
actor, and also a martial artist. For that matter Bruce Lee
was honestly expressing himself not lying to himself.
what about dolph lundgren vs bruce lee
What makes Chuck better than Bruce Lee? is it because of competition with rules? I Chuck cannot Beat even Donnie Yan in street fights without rules. Forget about Bruce Lee, right now anybody can beat Bruce Lee the man is no more. Bruce Lee has touched many with his teaching and philosophy. Now those who are better than Bruce should do more since they are alive. What is more important is his impact on others to learn the arts. Bruce wasn't the greatest he only polish the arts and make it very interesting to learn. There are many great masters out there who aren't on social media that can beat Chuck or Mr Lee. What is more important is this,what you can give to your world or generation? Bruce has given his and gone remaining those who are better than him. Everyone has rights to their choice,so there is no need to get angry about what people say of Bruce Lee. I think it's good to be open minded. I like every one of them including Bolo Young. In that way you can learn from others.
Itd come down to bruce and chuck, 50/50 from there
What about James Cagney and Michael Jai White ?
The story I've heard about Chuck and Bruce was that they had met earlier and perhaps trained with each other. When Bruce needed a main opponent in his next movie he phoned Chuck and asked him. Chuck answered "So kid, how do you figure that fight will go?" to which Bruce answered "Oh, I'm playing the hero in this film, so I win."
Man I stg those old heads just understood fiction better xD Stan Lee said the same damn thing
Bruce Lee was just a Batgirl or cat girl of the past. He would have played those roles perfectly today
He upstaged both Adam West and Burt Ward when guest starring as Kato in an episode of TV Batman
@@yogurt_junior That was easy Bruce knew some moves . West and Ward were stiffs.
Chuck Norris could never call Bruce "kid" they were both born in 1940.
And also watch the interview with Joe Lewis stating how much better of a fighter that he became after training with Bruce Lee how many professional championships Joe Louis won after that Joe was extremely impressed with Bruce Lee's methods of fighting
True but Joe stated that Bruce wasnt a fighter. When I trained with Joe he was still teaching things Bruce taught him. Chuck never did that..
@@cuzz63 you trained with Joe Lewis? What else did he tell about bruce lee? How good was bruce lee?
Joe Lewis was a real hard man. Full contact world Karate champ. Chuck was not a full contact Karate champion. Joe would have maimed Bruce. I was a Bruce Lee fanatic when I was a kid. It hurts but it is true to say that the myth is powerful, the reality humbling.
They never spared , they only did a few drills , he even mentions that Bruce wasnt the superhuman everyone believed to and he did had flaws in his fighting method but he did admit he was quick
I don't think so, Bruce had the ability, he also trained Joe. They were at least equal in the time they were together @@henryb1555
Maybe Bruce Lee could beat Jackie Chan, but he couldn't kill him!
I mean, if he didn't die after all his failed stunts, the man is immortal! XD
True, true.
“If I tell you I am good, you will say I am bragging.But if I tell you I am no good, you will know that I am lying “.-Bruce Lee.
I gotta say, Jackie Chan is underrated here. I have no idea how much real fight experience he has, but we know he's pretty familiar with pain and is very athletic. He's suffered a lot of injuries all over his body and can continue filming. He can probably take a punch pretty well.
Add to that the fact that his stunt team actually throw fairly hard during the fight scenes.
ask Benny the Jett , his interview about jackie was very telling
When you said Chuck would beat Bruce I knew there were problems in your analysis. You place emphasis on “professional experience” rather than knowledge, training, and talent. Guys with speed like Bruce see fights very differently. It’s like QBs with great accuracy who see openings in the defense that they can exploit where other QBs don’t. And to stay on the football analogy, gifted hand speed and kick speed in martial arts is like foot speed in football. It can’t be coached and it changes the game. It’s interesting to me that the most vocal critics of Bruce Lee don’t have hand speed and the most supportive of Bruce Lee among the professional fighting class are guys who knocked a lot of people out.
Chuck Norris is on video admitting that he never fought in a street fight in his entire life. Dan Inansonto is on camera stating that Bruce pulled him aside once and singled out Mike Stone & Joe Lewis as real fighters and said to Dan he had no confidence in Chuck as a street fighter compared with them. (With apologies to bad ass Chuck Norris we don’t know that this was Bruce’s final conclusion on Chuck but just that it was at one time purportedly stated) Interesting that you think Chuck would defeat Bruce based on your fight game analytical methodology. I seriously doubt you had much experience in street fights before you started training.
In my experience some people are born fighters and only some of them desire to fight for a living. Many professional fighters are low in talent. The champions all have talent, but even then, some have exceptional talent that jumps off the screen….. Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao, Inoue, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Ali, …….
Bruce had that kind of talent.
Also, you claim to have read Tao of Jeet Kune Do but I’m doubtful that you comprehended it well because you should have been able to discern that much of what Bruce Lee selected as either developed or adopted techniques are unquestionably effective and much of what he rejected is less than optimal for street fighting.
The man could have chosen any weird eclectic combination of styles imaginable and he chose to merge martial arts kicks (as well as Savate kickboxing) with western boxing. How could you even question that this man understood fighting from the perspective of a real fighter ?
Professional experience clearly carries advantages into street fights. There’s no question. But nevertheless, professional fighters are just as susceptible to being damaged in a street fight against a talented and trained opponent as any other human on earth.
I think you and some others I’ve seen don’t understand that there are people in the world who are highly athletic who also train for street fights.
I don’t think Bruce easily defeats any human he faces. But I understand he was highly exceptional compared to all norms.
I could see Bruce getting hurt in a fight. But that’s not the same as thinking he was not a formidable opponent because he stopped his martial arts career short of stepping in a boxing ring.
You make light of his sparring but Bruce was sparring with karate black belts and in some cases future kickboxers.
Remember, Benny the Jet, Joe Lewis, Bob Wall, were all martial artists on the same level as Bruce Lee running in the same circles before they became professional kickboxers. Would you say they weren’t real fighters in that time frame just prior to going full contact ?
Bruce was a real fighter who had one level left to go in his training but he had a different destiny. And the world is better for it.
Seriously though, I think it’s important to assume each fighter gets to train for the fight. I’m talking about a full camp. In that scenario you nailed it on size(Norris,Van Damme, Yen, Seagal) deciding the outcome. Bruce said that all other things being equal,a good big man beats a good little man every time. The guys that are closer to Bruce’s size all get housed with Jaa giving Lee the most trouble because of his style and apparent willingness to take a lot of damage. Possible to say that for Chan as well but he’s said plenty of times that Lee would have easily beaten him. It’s all speculation tho because there is still the story about Sammo challenging Bruce because he didn’t like the way his “Enter the Dragon “ scene made him look. Jackie said Sammo wouldn’t take off his sunglasses for days afterwards and Sammo was a lot bigger than Bruce. I’m inclined to think Bruce Lee’s training ethic would give him an edge in his weight class and his tricky thoughtful style could give him an edge over anyone in da streets. Be safe
I believe Donnie would give Bruce a run for his money as well. One of the few fighters on this list that includes some ground and pound.
I heard a lot of martial art champions from his era and they claim he could beat them all no matter what size they were. The problem with people in today's world they believe size matters they all believe that. That creates limitations. If you believe size matters then it does. I'm surprised that people talk about Bruce lee not being a fighter. That is not entirely true. He was not a professional. Big difference. The claims have been made how he beat them in all on sparring no matter how big they were.sparring does matter. If you can't hit him in sparring. Why would it be different in a real fight. Joe louis watch his videos. Watch Chuck norris videos. Bruce was untouchable. Plus he knew how to harness more power. Then most people. This guy didn:t do enough research. He did some.
@@thereviewartistrrp5493 they sleepin on Bruce Lee...they can't believe that such a small guy defied the fhysics of the human body...
@@itubecollection1623 Thank you. Im surprised at how many people discredit him for being small but he was special.
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Dude, size ABSOLUTELY matters, it's basic physics. I don't care how well trained you are, if you are half the size of Francis Ngannou, what exactly are you going to do to him? The power of belief doesn't change that. Also, not being able to hit him? Do you understand how every fight plays out? If you want to hit me you are going to be in range for me to hit you back, unless you have a significant reach advantage. If you don't, and I'm bigger than you, I can strike you even when you retreat. Speed doesn't somehow magically protect you from being hit unless you just run away. Many strikes NEED to be checked precisely because you cannot just avoid them if you are in range.
People claim that he could beat them out of respect, particularly post-humous respect now. It's not an indication of anything, and it doesn't replace real-world evidence. What we do know is Gene Labell carried Bruce around like a child when he challenged him. What does that demonstrate? That a bigger, stronger Judoka could EASILY manhandle Bruce, and you want to tell me a guy the same size and weight as him could have done that in the same way?
Talking about doing research while blurting such blatant BS is what's ironic.
sorry he was a martial artist first and utilized his skills to become an actor, correction lee didn't want to be called a star because it is not tangible, he wanted to be evaluated based on his acting skills based on the interviewer's question, he viewed himself a martial artist first
Jackie is just as good of a fighter as Donnie and all the other guys.he is also bigger and taller then Bruce and has trained almost every style that exists.Chuck Norris in the other hand are throwing werry sloopy technics and does not have many variations in his moves.Just look at his movies.just because he has done more tournaments dosnt mean he is a better martial artist and fighter.some people are calm and dosnt have that winnig mentality.Thats whats separates the ufc fighters from the eastern philosophys and attitudes of guys like Jet Li,Tony Jaa Bruce Lee,Donnie and such.you just need to look how they move.
If you check with those martial artists who fought with Bruce Lee, you will know how invincible he was.
Check with former Muhammad Ali body guard. He had fought with many top karate fighters including Chuck Norris(he was Bruce student), .Many denied losing to him to save face.
When he was in the States he challenged many dojo instructors and beat them.
Check it out.
Think all of them are good 👍🏻 but Bruce Lee is a legend, Worldwide !
In a street fight I would go with Lee-he have speed/strength and killer instinct !
When it is real that he dominated Joe Lewis in a sparring, then he would be able to do that to all of this Actor/ fighters.
He was „Billy the Kid“ of martial arts, that fought extras that challenged him in the film set !
He believed in himself and his abilities, without preparing like the pros, weeks or months !
With trainers, analyses their opponents like a doctor 👨⚕️
Thinks he says, to beat me you must kill me !
He was a warrior a samurai, he was real deal !
All other mens are good fighters, but Lee was like a Cobra - dangerous !
He was the brightest Star in firmament !
To K.O a person don’t needs much, you can train all your body, but not the head and jaw !
One kick in the head it’s over- think the sparring from Ramsey with his student, one second absence-K.O illustrate this very well !
Jean Claude Van Damme actually has a kickboxing background too. There even is a win/loss list on his wikipedia page.
@Trevor James Well you did make an compelling argument. I didn't really take into consideration the citations, I just came across and took them at face value. Anyway, I do still believe though, that prime Van Damme wasn't just an actor but a legit Martial Artist, or at the very least somebody who could hold his own in a real fight. Thank you still for clarifying though.
@@Gamerfan2000 agreed, i think a prime van damme would beat a prime bruce lee
@@Gamerfan2000 Back in Europe during that time period, even the light contact matches were called “kickboxing”. It’s been pretty well documented that JCVD never did any full contact kickboxing matches and this was even brought up in a court case between Frank Dux and JCVD and neither he or his legal team disputed that. Since Ramsey brought up the Viking Samurai site, he did a video addressing this and despite him being a HUGE fan of JCVD, his video addresses that JCVD only did point sparring and that it was called “kickboxing” in Europe during that era (though he did make point sparring sound like it was tougher than it was, despite the fact that he criticized guys like Michael Jai White for doing the same).
JCVD has a legitimate second degree black belt in Shotokan. He has done at least some cross training in, though no competition in Kickboxing. He is athletic and flexible and in good physical shape. He does have pretty decent experience in point sparring and overall good form in his kicking.
I extensively covered Van Damme's fights here: ruclips.net/video/a8A5tYUTt1s/видео.html
To be fair, according to Jeff Langton in the viking samurai interview, the karate point fighting back then was not like modern point fighting, as they'd go full contact and could win by knock out as well as by points.
Thanks so much for answering my question, coach!!!! Literally the best birthday present I got this year! :D :D :D
It seems like you had just as much fun making the video as I had watching it. What a great cherry on top it would be if it helped with those evil RUclips bots putting you down lately!
Bruce is freakishly fast so he can definitely get his punches in. But not sure if he's used to getting hit and that changes the game significantly. Like how would he react, how's his durability, will his chin hold up... etc.
We should also mention that we have only seen his speed in demos and movie scenes. Would he still be quick in actual combat?
@@GDCDGCnah it was all show right? All fake? 🤦♂️ somehow he just “acted” fast. 🤣
The first few seconds in and you start with the just an actor bull. This has been the narrative for to long. I can’t for the life of me understand how you all who say this don’t see what I see when I see his , speed, flow, technique, and confidence. I train in martial arts. And people who do know what to look for. Many men get in their feeling and say 💩 to make themselves look good. Just think some kids 40 years from now will say he could beat Floyd Mayweather and people during that era will believe him. GTFOH
I've tried to think alot about this subject from a rational standpoint. There is no doubt that Bruce was very capable martial artist. He did have real traditional training and fight experience. He then evolved some old styles into technique that MMA uses today. I would say, if you threw him in the mix without any warning of MMA based on just his movie experience, he would lose. But...if you have him some time to prepare for the fights, and he gained fight experience in the octagon, he could probably top his weight class. He would be competitive.
He had fight experience he started with many of the top martial artist of his time. Just not professionally. No one could touch him in his prime. No matter how big they were. He developed a technique so he could harness a lot more power. Plus he didn't telegraph his punches. Plus he was the fastest man that ever lived. Their is plenty of testimonies. Church out Joe Louis videos a heavy weight martial art champion. He learned from him. He teaches about how Bruce became so fast and powerful. Plus you can't hit bruce from what their saying and if you can't hit someone let alone clean. How you gonna knock him out? Size only matters if the skill level is the same. But that is an illusion. There is no such thing as equal skill. Bruce lee knew way too much. Why do you think he train with Chuck Norris. To get better. He was different. Another example is Rocky Marciano. 190 pound heavy 5-11 short arms. Undefeated. One of the biggest hitters of his time. Granite chin and was very slippery and smart. People now days discredit him. Old school fighters were by far tougher and had way more endurance. They use to battle it out for 30 rounds. Rocky in his prime would destroy anthony joshua. Rocky would destroy andy ruiz. I even think he might be able to beat Wilder. I lean more towards tyson fury winning but that is only because of his skill and size. Watch his fight. He was amazing. Bruce studied everything from the beginning of time. People in modern times act like the past doesn't exist. Do actually their skill level has suffered because of it. Bruce lee cherry picked. He only used what he need. He also could grabble. Boone ever talk about that. In olden times they didn't believe that size matters like they do today. That's all anybody ever talks about. Bruce lee was like hitting a piece of metal. Not these bloated up fighters of today. He had 2 percent body fat. Just rock. Size didn't matter for him.
This is based on fuckin nothing...
@@thereviewartistrrp5493 spoken like a true fanboy. There are mixed things said by the other martial artists. Joe Le Lewis for example, thought Bruce was fast and powerful but didn't know if he could take a punch. Your assertion that Hitting Bruce was like hitting a piece of metal is purely fanboy wishful thinking with no proof to back it up. Joe also said Bruce was not a fighter, but a great teacher. There have been several guys on these BL threads that knew Joe personally, and they say Joe thought he would have beaten Bruce in a real fight. He also says he never sparred with Bruce nor seen him spar.
Chuck norris Gene Le BEll, Bob Wall and even Dan Inosanto have mixed things to say that do not fit your superhuman narrative. The ones that do say nothing but positive accounts of Bruce ,e.g. Jim Kelly, give no details to back up their assertion.
None of us know the truth as Bruce has no proven fights. Without those we can only speculate.
@@stevo62ful I'm not a fan boy. I just bruce willis is adaptable. Also he was like 2 percent body fat. He created his own martial art. Don't you think he would learn to adapt. Your just hating
@@thereviewartistrrp5493 I like Bruce but I don't let my emotions get in the way of facts.
your wildest claim is that hitting Bruce is like hitting a piece of metal. Even if all the other claims are true, his achilles heel would be getting hit. Let's say a hard hitter like George Foreman struck Bruce or Andre the Giant, who is likely to be hurt the most ?
He was fast sure but there are others that may be faster. In the meaningless Vic Moore speed test he is throwing punches at thin air as they were short of hitting Vic. Thomas Hearns threw a right cross that demolished Roberto Duran that looked at least as fast, and was thrown with power not flicking into thin air. I know it hurts you over zealous fans but the cold hard fact is that Bruce is unproven as a fighter. I was disappointed too when I learned this, but it is what it is.
Dolph Lundgren would probably beat all of the martial art actors. Dolph is a Kyoukoushin black belt and participated in world championship knock down/full contact tournaments.
Man, I misread the title and thought you meant what if he fought all of them AT ONCE. That would make for a much shorter video, I guess.
Would also be cool though xD
If it were Chuck Norris versus all of them, it would still be unfair.
They wouldn't stand a chance.
Hahahahahaha I feel like I’m listening to a comic book. No education on the reality of other martial arts actors especially SS. I spoke to Bob Wall for over a hour about Bruce vs SS and Bob told me it wouldn’t even last 3 seconds. Do you remember The Dirty Dozen? SS was terrified of Bob Wall and The Dirty Dozen. Bob even called SS to fight and SS never showed.
Hi Ramsey, I have a question about performance anxiety. Is there a crossover between different types of performances? For example, if someone had a decent amount of experience performing live music, but had never competed in a combat sports setting, or vice versa, would their experience performing in front of people in one discipline translate to the other? I’m curious to hear your opinion as someone who is both a musician and a combat sports athlete.
Cheers from Australia 🙂
I was worried where this was comment was going after reading the first sentence. :)
It won’t make you worse.
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Bruce lee in a ring with benny the jet ,that would be interesting!
I don't think Segal would beat him. Segal can't kick or punch, he needs to get a hold of him. Bruce's kicks were just too fast and powerful. Bruce would just keep Segal at distance using his kicks as jabs. And even though Segal has a size advantage, I still think Bruce was stronger. Joe Lewis said Bruce hit like a heavyweight. Bruce's body was like a coiled spring, Segal's body like play dough. Even in his prime, Segal has very little muscularity, he was soft. I think a guy like Michael Jai White would be a tougher opponent.
He has the size advantage combined with speed and power. And are we talking about a rules based fight or a no rules street fight? With no rules, Bruce would have a better chance in general. I think Bruce's speed was his greatest asset. None of the guys mentioned are his equal in that department.
Honestly out of the whole batch Steven Seagal is the worst. He's just 100% fakery. I'm pretty sure any random guy off the street within 6 inches of his height, and 80 lbs of his weight could beat his ass.
They did drills not actual sparing , a few years the same Lewis kind of gets back to reality , you have to understand nobody wants to talk trash about a guy like Bruce Lee.
Look at what happened to Jay White ,despite having an ego ,White actually has the experience and size to beat up Bruce Lee but fans wont see it cuz White has an "ego"
I love how real you are in this type of videos. Bruce Lee was an amazing person on so many levels, no doubt. That doesn't make him invincible though.
He wasn't amazing and fighting because if he was he would be doing it on a professional level to prove himself. So the one thing that he wanted us to believe he was amazing and he wasn't. He was just a ballerina
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed Oh, to imagine I would find you again in another channel... Harry buddy, I think you have something against Asians, yes?
@@deedumeday518 honestly, I don't give a flying s*** what you think or what anyone thinks. If I did I wouldn't be on the internet.
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed that's a good mindset to have, especially when you are spewing your bullshit everywhere, God of Sneed
@@deedumeday518 everything I say is true . Not one word is lies. You are the one that just admitted to harassing me.
Many times before.
If what I say is bul you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Now go F yourself 😊👍
And stop hiding your comments.
This would actually be very interesting to watch! lmao
In their Prime, my List would be: 1.) Chuck Norris, 2.) Jean Claude Van Damme, 3.) Jackie Chan, 4.) Donnie Yen, not sure the rest.
Dolph Lundgren would probably win. Huge guy, experienced Kyokushin black belt
Joe Lewis had the style closest to Bruce, so I would like to see them fight. Bruce wasn't a fighter by trade but be was an extreme trainer/pioneer of the combat arts. He trained to fight, that's why he used armor when he sparred. I've seen Bruce's bag work, it looks a little sloppy. He had a right lead roundhouse kick that's like nothing I've ever seen. He has great balance, fantastic speed and trapping hands. I would say maybe Chuck Norris or Sammo Hung would have the best chance of beating Bruce Lee. Bruce had a very big ego and a fire inside him. He would not go down easy. Tony Jaa would confound him at first, in my opinion. Jackie is not nearly mean enough. No Segal, no JCVD, no Donnie Yen and no Jet Li. I choose Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris and Sammo Hung...in that order of his peers. Master Lee is not to be underestimated, but my only doubts are in his chin. Mostly only Boxers have the most proven chins by default and none of these guys are Boxers, so...no real proof of any chin. And a punch in the gut will still hurt you real bad even if your name is Bruce Lee. But I would lay some serious money on the Dragon. Well, not that serious...a hundred dollars maybe Pay Per View. Lol! That said, I would NOT want to be the guy that has to step in the Ring and fight Bruce Lee. I think he's gonna have a bad day. And I honestly think Bruce Lee was a just little too mean for these other guys.
As a Swede i have to bring up Dolph Lundgren.
He'd take out all the other actors.
@@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y most certainly, but maybe except for Michael Jay White. I am not saying MJW would win, but it would be hotly contested.
@@ahmadhasan8355 Yes, I forgot about MJW
Santa Clause is real...
Chuck beats Bruce, because Chuck learned a reasonable amount of Judo when he was a military policemen, so he has more than just striking skills. Van Damme probably has a significant weight advantage, so I'd give him a very good chance, plus some real kickboxing matches to his name. Tony Jaa has a Muay Thai background and would give Bruce a rough time. Scott Adkins is physically bigger and stronger and has a well rounded training background. Michael Jai White would overpower Bruce, with his strength, skills and deep menacing voice. Steven Seagall would anhillate Bruce in an eating contest. Not sure about Jackie Chan or Donnie Yen. Just calling it as I see it, and happy to be convinced otherwise by compelling evidence. Cheers.
Also, Bruce Lee is dead.
Donnie yen in his prime is very athletic. ruclips.net/video/srQSr-dGVEk/видео.html . Tyson even said that he is also effective in a street fight.
@@greatneos Fair play, maybe he has an edge on Lee.
Bruce Lee vs Mastha Wong, winner gets to kick Ramsey.
Bruce Lee was the founder of Jeet Kune Do, a hybrid martial arts philosophy drawing from different combat disciplines that is often credited with paving the way for modern mixed martial arts (MMA). Lee is considered by critics, media, and other martial artists to be the most influential martial artist of all time and a pop culture icon of the 20th century. Bruce Lee's early martial arts experience included Wing Chun (trained under Yip Man), tai chi, boxing (winning a Hong Kong boxing tournament), and apparently frequent street fighting (neighbourhood and rooftop fights). In 1959, Lee moved to Seattle. In 1961, he enrolled in the University of Washington.[8] It was during this time in the United States that he began considering making money by teaching martial arts. He opened his first martial arts school, operated out of home in Seattle. After later adding a second school in Oakland, California, he once drew significant attention at the 1964 Long Beach International Karate Championships of California by making demonstrations and speaking. He subsequently moved to Los Angeles to teach, where his students included Chuck Norris, Sharon Tate, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. In the 1970s, his Hong Kong and Hollywood-produced films elevated the Hong Kong martial arts films to a new level of popularity and acclaim, sparking a surge of Western interest in Chinese martial arts. The direction and tone of his films dramatically influenced and changed martial arts and martial arts films worldwide. Lee became an iconic figure known throughout the world, particularly among the Chinese, based upon his portrayal of Chinese nationalism in his films, and among Asian Americans for defying Asian stereotypes.[12] Having initially learnt Wing Chun, tai chi, boxing, and street fighting, he combined them with other influences from various sources into the spirit of his personal martial arts philosophy, which he dubbed Jeet Kune Do (The Way of the Intercepting Fist). Since his death, Lee has continued to be a prominent influence on modern combat sports, including judo, karate, mixed martial arts, and boxing, as well as modern popular culture, including film, television, comics, animation, and video games. Time named Lee one of the 100 most important people of the 20th century.
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Bruce Lee as a baby with his parents, Grace Ho and Lee Hoi-chuen
Bruce Lee's birth name was Lee Jun-fan. His father Lee Hoi-chuen was a famous Cantonese opera singer based in Hong Kong. His mother Grace Ho was born in Shanghai, and she was of Eurasian ancestry.[14] In December 1939, his parents traveled to California
You should've brought up MJW LOL
Bruce lee was invincible, Even you master Dewey would taste the heel of his iron foot!!🦶
ffs grow up
Don't know if Dolph Lundgren counts, he was more of a martial artist in real life then on film. Being a serious kyokushin fighter and huge I guess that wouldn't even be fair.
I was curious to see if someone would mention Dolph. I think he would beat just about every other martial arts actor.
was just about to comment on this. agree that dolph beats all martial arts actors mentioned above. size, actual competition, european champ if i'm not mistaken
i'm not naive to believe that bruce lee was invincible but i'm not that stupid to believe that bruce lee was just an actor who couldn't defend himself (am i bluffing ?) Well just make a deep research about his life,biography and witnesses that follow him at his time and you'll agree that yes he was a true martial artist
Chuck vs Bruce ABSOLUTELY would've been one sided. Norris has black belts in Kyokushin, Judo, BJJ, Taekwondo, Tang Soo Do, and Shito Ryu. He got the BJJ black belt much more recently of course, long after Bruce was dead, but Chuck was already mixing his martial arts many years before Bruce started to formulate Jeet Kune Do, and that happened only a handful of years before his unfortunate death. And Chuck was about 25 pounds heavier in addition to his pro sport karate background. He was simply a larger, more experienced, and more knowledgeable man. Bruce's grappling was rudimentary at best; trying to mess with a larger, experienced Judoka who can also kick you in the face is a big ask.
Judo black belt?
@@slee2695 Yes. Norris had a brown belt in Judo by the time he returned home from the Korean War and then continued to study, including under Judo Gene LeBell.
Chuck Norris never had a real fight
People would be shocked to see any of these actors fight. Remember UFC 1? All of those black belt level martial artist and the fights mostly looked like school yard fights with grown men. No dim mak, no jump spin crescent kicks, no backflips, just wild windmill punches and basic ground and pound.
Bruce Lee would definitely beat Xena the princess warrior, Cat woman, the lesbian Bat woman and Captain Marvel. Who knows, maybe even Feminist Barbie.
I think if we had a time machine to bring him to modern times and he trained in mma with good coaching he'd have the attributes to do well in his weight class maybe even become a champion.
To add to my own comment, in the lack of recorded evidence I think we should definitely consider the testimonies of people who knew him, worked with him and trained with him and look at their accounts. People such as Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis trained with him and talk about his pound for pound strength, his speed and technique. The main conclusion I get is that 1. he was ahead of his time in regards to his training method, 2. he was capable enough that other martial artists wanted to train with him, including world champions. 3. he had the attributes of a fighter physically and mentally, especially in his work ethic.
Joe Lewis said Bruce was just too fast, you couldn't touch him, Bruce wrote of the time he and Chuck Norris had a serious spar, and Chuck had no chance of beating him, in the ring there are rules, outside the ring, Bruce was the king. he was just too good, and he would have fought anyone.
Hmm. Steven Segal in his prime?
I think Steven might win based on size alone.
Edit:Oh, Ramsey got it. Not everybody can be Saenchai.
Bruce Lee can beat anybody, simple as that… Enough of that… Video close…BTW Chuck Norris is too slow to Bruce Lee…
I think Joe Lewis said in an interview he sparred with Bruce Lee and said he was good and hit hard like a pro but correct me if I'm wrong
Joe did say Bruce was fast and hit like a heavyweight, I assume he meant from his time training with Bruce as he also said, they never sparred
They sparred, although it wasn’t under good conditions. It was because Joe hurt one of Bruce’s students, Herb Jackson, this pissed Bruce off so he told Joe to stay a bit longer, Bruce put on the gloves and played .with him for about a minute. Joe couldn’t do anything.
Ted Wong, Kareem Jabber and Herb Jackson were there and all 3 have confirmed this.
If you want more insight into what really went on back then pick up wrath of the dragon: the real fights of Bruce Lee by John Little. Very informative book.
@@axelstone3131 yea but I’m talking about an interview I saw where he said they sparred just working out together
@@Metaltrippin2 like I said. A lot of people changed their story when Bruce wasn’t around to call them out.
Watch John Little’s interview with the Kung Fu Genius. You will learn a lot.
The one you ought to watch is called Bruce Lee’s real fights
I will start this by saying I am huge Bruce fanboy, and he's the reason I started martial arts, he was a man ahead of his time. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Now, that being said I say he can take Jackie, and Jet. Donnie would be super interesting if it stayed standing. On the ground Donnie is a purple belt in BJJ so big advantage there. Standing it goes either way or Donnie wins. JCVD I'm not sure. He has the size advantage. Sagal has a massive size advantage over everyone. If this was done tournament style, the most interesting match up to me would be Chuck Norris vs Tony Jaa. Factoring that everyone would be at their peaks, I lean slightly towards Chuck. I'd also take Chuck over Bruce in a good fight. It would be a standing Karate vs kung Fu fight (like Wonder Boy vs Kevin Holland) but if Chuck closes the distance people maybe not realize that besides being a karate champion he was also a black belt in judo. I am a karateka an as a bigger guy the toughest for me to spar are the smaller faster opponents. If they tag me it won't hurt but they can and have and it's irritating. Could throw you off your rhythm. Always good to spar with a variety of opponents different sizes, shapes, and skillets 🙂. Sidenote, if these fights take place in an IKEA furniture store then Jackie wins them all 😆
Norris was the best point fighter in the 60s. Tony Jaa is no fighter. Norris would have beaten Jaa easily. Of course, you can´t compare them because Norris is 82 years old.
People get mad if you say that Bruce Lee couldn't beat Muhammad Ali with one hand and his eye closed.
Wait... So we're counting our school yard scuffles on to our W/L ratios now? If so, consider my record bolstered. The big problem I have when people say "Street fights" is that it's such a damn broad term... Because any physical altercation out side on Da Street, is a street fight. Regardless of the skill levels of the opponents. If we're going on that, I have so many friends that have a hell of a lot of experience in street fighting... And are absolutely terrible at it. They fight like two idiots hoping to get the first best hit in, then they scrabble on the ground trying to rag each other around up until one of their mates or a bouncer splits them up... Then they act tough and start yelling obscenities, though often secretly thanking the holy heavens that it was split up by someone...
So Bruce Lee, someone with an idea of what he's doing, with a good level of natural aggression behind him being able to handle himself in a street fight... Course. I buy that. I'm just curious as to why it's constantly brought up. It's no token to say you can beat someone to a pulp who knows very little about fighting.
I got into an altercation a few months ago with someone who had just mugged someone outside our local pub at the beginning of the year. I chased the fellow down and got the bag back. He wasn't very co-operative about letting it go. Though given that I'm a trained fighter, in full athletic condition with a fight record that shows a will to use it... and this was a very malnourished idiot with no fighting experience what so ever. It went rather well for myself and not so much for him. So there. Up goes my street cred with a fight on "DA STREET" it means nothing. There's fellows at my gym with zero "Da street" fight experience that could still whoop my arse due to their skill, athleticism and actual fight experience, against actual fighters, that are also skilled athletes with the ability and will to use it. It's not a badge of honour. People need to stop bringing it up as if it proves some sort of point in terms of fighting ability.
Also, just to add. When I did confront such individual outside the pub. I was there to entertain my stepson and I had already changed into my stepsons favourite superhero: Spider-Man. That must have been a very trippy experience for all involved, to have seen Spider-Man chase down and beat up a mugger, then hand a purse back to an old lady. Something that will stick with me for most my days due to the surreal nature of it.
He did win a championships few of them. Also he did fight all of kind of people who came to challenge him and beat them all. He is too fast and too quick with insane endurance. He did train everyday. He loved training and properly died because of that. He defeated people/fighters much larger than him. Also when he said actor he didn't mean an actor as a normal menaing of an actor as an actor in a movie. He meant an actor as a manipulater and deceiver plus expresser of himself. Actor as a self expression not as a moive actor.
Also, he was planning to add 10kg of muscles but he died before he started.
He fought multiple Mafias in USA and China. He was kicked from China to USA by his parents because of that.
He is simply too fast/quick and flexible , too confident and too skilled for any fighers to be even remotely competitive/comparable to him. He is a human arrow. Fighting him is like trying to dodge a havey multi shot magazine fead human crossbow from up close. He will hit everything he wants and no one will even be close to tich him. Most fighters would be knocked out with one hit in the first second by him. They wouldn't even be able to react to him. He is a ghost like mist. When he hits it is like a Tsunami.
Likes of LuBu are basically unbeatable especially on top of his special red horse. CaoCao need it an army of 160k to defeat him. Got surrounded by thousands of infantry and no one wanted to charge him. They showered him with arows fo 3 volies to kill him. At the end he got killed due one of 2 arrows to one of his eyes and to the nike, due to his armor and muscles.
Dude , put the crack pipe down
Wow. What incredible malarkey. The fan fiction of the Bruceploitation industry has really infected your brain with all this bullshido. As Ramsey accurately said, Lee’s only competition fight was a a High School boxing match against a kid named Gary Elms. Everything else you said is the fan fiction that’s popular the cult of Bruce Lee fans.
I wanna know more about his special red horse
@@cahallo5964 the biggest, fastest, craziest and strongest angry wilde horse of the time. Horses lose size overtime of many generations too. It was the last of it is kind in China. The hair was white. Also it was strong red colored. It took 3000 people to capture the horse alive and many of them died. The horse is capable of killing multiple tigers and bears alone easily.
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