Tatiana is entirely self taught. Check out Perennial (Live at Wacken) to hear her do it at the drop of a hat. Jinjer is the name of the band, btw. Loved your reaction!
"need to research that more."...ok, everyone, you know what to do! Start posting Jinjer, Arch Enemy, Spiritbox, Once Human, In this Moment, et al vids!
Regarding her "Satanic" voice, Chris: If you were a selfless fish (Pisces) who wanted to see the world but was a bit skittish, and then got into the nets and was hooked by handsome butchers who proceed to rip away your scales and entrails (emeralds)... you'd growl too! So you see, sometimes the lyrics call for extreme vocals in a song. Tatiana (who's not singing as someone possessed, so you can toss the garlic back into the spaghetti sauce) wrote an incredible story and sang about it the way it deserved to be sung... as with most of her songs. Some vocalist just keep singing in their nice and charming voice even when the lyrics call out desperation. Not so with Tati. Her extreme expression - a rare ability - adds so much more to a song... especially if you follow the music with the lyrics and how the beautiful cacophony tells the story.
@@adwood201 I'll bet Tati continues to slowly move out of strict metal with songs that are more prog, jazz, hip-hop, blues, reggae, and of course, some hard rock and metal. I hope the guys will want to do the same. I think they will, especially if she wants it.
I've pointed this out before, but Mr. Rupp! You are just the cutest!! I love watching your videos!!! And I love Tatiana! I watched the live at Wacken and wow. It's just incredible what human voices can do. Love your reactions!!! Keep them coming!!
There is some vocal layering but she’s the real deal just watch their live video performances which are high quality and the entire band are on top of it.No keyboard In the band and Tatiana now has a full frontal neck tatoo
This reaction blew my mind. I listen to a huge variety of genres and styles. I’m a long time Home Free fan, and have followed your career after you parted from the group and have enjoyed your content as well. I’m also a long time Jinjer fan as well. What a small wonderful world we live in. I’m sure someone might have stated this, but it says in the description of song that there is post production on the final video, even though the studio session was a live, one-take.
@@ChrisRuppOfficial I've never heard keys in this song, however the cymbal work perfectly accenting the guitar and bass tapping tap tappy adds a phenomenal dimension to the sound.
The best friend will not advise bad things , everyone needs such a friend .Pisces ( pronounced like spices , but without s ) is a zodiac sign symbolized by two fish ,one of the most contradictory and dual signs in astrology ,so her contrasting double vocals and mood swings make sense and fits perfectly into the meaning of this song.The lead singer and songwriter Tatiana is also Pisces ,so she perfectly described character traits of the people of this sign and tells the story of an unhappy Pisces girl and her bad life experience in personal relationships comparing her to a doomed fish. "Perennial "live at Wacken 2019 next to appreciate her another talent - great stage presence , and enjoy beautiful lyrics .
I’ve seen them 4 times( yes, I’m blessed) and have yet to hear a live performance that did t rival their cd productions… they r beyond real…& Ambassadors to Ukraine
Pisces is all about duality. The Pisces zodiac sign is a dual sign. So this song captures that very well. Yep, she is self taught. It took her 4 years to get the extreme vocals (screams/growls) down and without affecting her clean vocals. Tatiana is awesome. Welcome to the rabbit hole that is Jinjer :) All the band members are awesome as well. Eugene is the bassist, Roman is the guitarist, and Vlad is the drummer. Very talented group of people. And just really cool down to earth people as well. I like your pointing out the technical parts of producing and how they setup a live session like that. I heard in an interview with Tatiana and Eugene that they recorded this session to highlight their drummer, Vlad, as he was new to the band at the time and brought a new feel and sound to this song. They showed up a little early and did a couple of backing vocal lines. They use tracks for fill in sometimes, so they probably had those vocal lines they recorded earlier come in at those points where it's fuller and had that synth effect come in toward the end with the track. More songs to check out: All of their songs are great. This is just a list in the order I'd go about it. I Speak Astronomy (official video) - off their King of Everything LP with their older drummer. Love this song! Perennial (live at Wacken 2019) - awesome song and great to show her live vocals and switching between cleans and extreme. Who is going to be the one (live) - great version of the song. Another song showing her extreme vocals and going from very low growls to really high screams. Judgement (&Punishment) (one take vocal) - great showcasing Tatiana's vocals. It's awesome. On the Top (live in Kiev and official video) - both are great. Teacher, Teacher (official video) - great video of multiple live shows. An awesome song. Very technical (well all of their songs are quite technical). Pit of Consciousness (live in Kiev and official video) - both great. Home Back (official video) - very personal song for them about the war in the east of Ukraine and them having to leave their home. There is more, but that will be a good start :).
Sounds like there's a backing track of some kind of keyboards along with the doubling tracks at approximately 3:30 into this. Listen closely. Subtle but there. This seems to have been recorded live, mixed, sweetened, and edited for the final video. I mean, even live they run backing tracks and from what I can tell, they're all wearing in-ear monitors. That Live at Wacken Perennial also has a backing track that plays. First thing that plays at the beginning of the song. It seems there's also another backing vocal track also playing later in that performance because you can hear double vocals. It's not a bad thing. It helps live performances and it's a normal/pro thing to do and almost everybody does it. The artists don't rely on these tracks but they help thicken the sound.
I am sure a lot will tell you, but Jinjer is the band and the singer is Tatiana Shmaylyuk. Roman, Vlad, and Eugene are the other members and each is an exceptional musician. No keyboards used, that is Eugene doing Eugene things on bass, and Roman on his guitar.
Could you imaging Home Free covering this song? Austin doing the jazz/pop parts, Rob and Chance doing the guitar tones, Adam Rupp doing the percussion and Tim doing the extreme vocal fry parts, because well he does sing in that range.
I believe the technique is called Tuvan throatsinging. (Better ask Adam). It did sound like she was possessed! But yeah, very interesting and so skilled! Maybe react to Steve’n’Seagulls.. interesting versions of Thunderstruck, Nothing Else Matters and so on.
Yeah, me too, can't seem to get him interested in S&S, maybe if more people keep mentioning it? I even told him there was a wrench and anvil and a tractor involved, and still nothin', crickets. :-)
False cord screaming, using the vestibular folds aka false cords, or death growls since it comes out of the death metal genre, where sounding like a demon was kind of the goal. Before the technique was established, people would actually blow their voice out, because they'd use the vocal folds to make similar sounds like these, which is extremely unhealthy and can cause permanent damage to them.
@@Dark__Thoughts I know one of the basic rules in singing is, if it hurts don't do it, figure out another way to make the sound without discomfort or excessive fatigue. It was funny on many of the reactions from voice coaches you could see they were literally looking like they were in pain. One even said, my jaw hurts. They were ALL blown away though, and gave her massive props for her technique. I did watch a video from the guy that does the goofy style challenges with Peter Hollens (they are fun, and this guy does killer Sinatra) showing a bit about screaming the correct way. Very interesting. They had one on his channel where he and an opera singer taught each other some of their style of singing. That was pretty enlightening, too.
@@MrJdsenior Yes, only very few vocal coaches can teach you this. The majority is completely uneducated about it, a lot of them don't even know about it at all. But it gets increasingly more popular and mainstream nowadays, and Tatiana is one of the reasons why. She is also a major reason why we see a lot more women trying to get into this, as this is usually a very male dominated genre and vocal style. More diversity in music is always welcome, and Jinjer is providing that on more than just vocals- It's such a talented band. I can recommend the Pisces video of Kardavox Academy too, he also does some live examples.
@@Dark__Thoughts Adam Rupp uses a lot of throat bass, but I don’t know if he knows how to do Tuvian throat singing. But then again, is there anything he couldn’t do (or learn).
Don't know how much further you've fallen into the Jinjer rabbit hole, but here's an interview she did on Loudwire about how she developed her vocal techniques... ruclips.net/video/UBrqWYMBm60/видео.html
I don't mean to alarm you, but there appears to be a stripe of high-pitched noise on this video, mostly on the right channel. It sounds to me as if your mic is picking up the noise of your computer's fans or something like that...
You were close about the mic thing, but actually not entirely correct. The primary reason she is pressed straight against the mic is that the style of screaming she is doing, especially to create such a masculine sound (which was what she aimed for when learning) requires very little air pressure and sound. If she did not have the mic literally pressed to her lips, it would not sound anything close to that. From my understanding from seeing so many vocal coach reactions, someone correct if I misremembered the exact dynamics.
We have quite a few Metal Goddeses around nowadays, each one pretty unique in her own talent. My vote goes for a lesser known one: Elli Berlin (Null Positiv) Their ballad *Wo Rauch ist, ist auch Feuer* is a good start, or you can dive right into heavier stuff like *Kollapse* or *Hass* Edit, for everyone's convenience: *Wo Rauch ist, ist auch Feuer* ruclips.net/video/lOIy-i6c_iI/видео.html
If you'd like another excellent metal band signed to Napalm Records, try Unleash the Archers "Awakening". Another excellent vocalist. (No growls like Tatiana, though.)
Jinjer is a very interesting band both to listen and to watch reactions to. There is also some unexpected diversity in none of Nightwish songs: ruclips.net/video/XtXqUNB8zrU/видео.html (Yours Is an Empty Hope). And some of demons of hell are also here: ruclips.net/video/kL4GovLisOI/видео.html (Arch Enemy, Eagle Flies Alone, though little to no diversity in it).
Normally yes , you would have to train but, I think she may be a special case and has a ton of it naturally. She may have done some school, though, most others go to the Rock Academy thing that they have. There's a few girls over there that can growl, but they don't switch it like this. Most rely on the male vocal to do it. I love both together a bit more taste wise but I most certainly appreciate Tatiana. and omg....yes that was too cute lol. Much love XOXO
It's self taught, but she did of course train first. You not just have to learn the proper technique to do this healthily, but also have to re-learn how to do proper pronunciation when doing so.
Its the star sign its pronunced Pre-Sees. How can you not know that everyone I knew, knew how to pronounce Pisces before the age of fifteen. And you mock his! I get it this music isn't for everyone. But her vocals are incredibly difficult to do. Every band member plays to support everyone else. Plus thdrumers techniques is very technical and spot on, The music is soulful, hypnotic, and otherworldly, to draw you in before kicking out the jams with Tatiana's growls and the guitars intensity. You work in the music insustry and you give such a shoddy assessment of the band. I am not well versed in music, technique and terminology and I could analyze it better. In fact I just did. In fact a lot of unqualified youtubers have a better ability to describe what they are hearing rhan you. I don't wish too be such an ass, but if you claim to be a music producer you are really really embarrassing yourself. Honestly I only give the rant because you have the audacity to call yourself a Music Producer and show such a lack of fundamental understanding of basic music craftsmanship its embarrassing.
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Put it on, take it off, put it back on. You're as bad as I am. :-) Yeah, I had exactly the same reaction, I'd like to see her do that without a mic. There are voice altering devices out there that can do some pretty amazing things. One scam baiter I watch has multiple ones running in a session and then records and plays them back while he's talking and you'd probably believe there are three different people if you were on the phone with him. Yeah, IIRC the exterior noise cancelling mics of old, like in aircraft were differential sound pressure measurements between to elements, close up sound changes a lot, far away generated sound, not so much. Could be wrong, what I remember though, don't quote me.
It's not like it is particularly unusual. Plenty of amateurs on YT doing passable immitations at an amateur level - just look up Pisces vocal cover. No need to come up with a conspiracy theory. Besides if awesomeness was that easy to fake nobody would have weaksauce growls.
@@j.f.fisher5318 What conspiracy??? Assuming that was a joke. Vocalists at a professional level use all kinds of tools to modify their voices, instruments, etc., it's not a secret. In fact it is almost impossible to find professional recordings with actual natural sounding human voices on it any more...most of it is studio'd to death. I wasn't accusing her of anything, just wondering about the techniques. I will look it up the covers, so far I've just been watching first time viewing voice coaches reacting, and they are hilarious...they actually look like they are in pain, after the shock wears off. Again, I would like to hear it without a mic to see if it is purely a mic technique, like growling out 0th octave base notes, and MUCH lower, one guy.
Totally self taught. Cleans, growls and English. I suspect you would get a kick out of Judgement and Punishment One Take.
Followed closely by "Teacher, Teacher", "Perennial", "Home Back" and lots 'n lots more.....
for sure!
Perennial live at wacken is a good concert outdoors to see how they sound
Tatiana is entirely self taught. Check out Perennial (Live at Wacken) to hear her do it at the drop of a hat. Jinjer is the name of the band, btw. Loved your reaction!
Does she do it off mic?
@@MrJdsenior Not in Perennial. But there are videos of her doing it off mic.
@@MrJdsenior yes ,of course
@@andrewk3725 Hmmmmm...maybe I should have worded that differently? Excuse please if my mind is at gutter level and yours is not. :-)
@@MrJdsenior it's not about the level of mind , I doubt that my level is higher .It's just that this band is something new to you ,not for me ;-)
Perhaps you would appreciate their performance of "Perennial Live at Wacken" I am in my sixties, never listened to any type of Metal prior to Jinjer.
"need to research that more."...ok, everyone, you know what to do! Start posting Jinjer, Arch Enemy, Spiritbox, Once Human, In this Moment, et al vids!
Spirit box not that much but that's good list
Regarding her "Satanic" voice, Chris: If you were a selfless fish (Pisces) who wanted to see the world but was a bit skittish, and then got into the nets and was hooked by handsome butchers who proceed to rip away your scales and entrails (emeralds)... you'd growl too! So you see, sometimes the lyrics call for extreme vocals in a song. Tatiana (who's not singing as someone possessed, so you can toss the garlic back into the spaghetti sauce) wrote an incredible story and sang about it the way it deserved to be sung... as with most of her songs. Some vocalist just keep singing in their nice and charming voice even when the lyrics call out desperation. Not so with Tati. Her extreme expression - a rare ability - adds so much more to a song... especially if you follow the music with the lyrics and how the beautiful cacophony tells the story.
And she also sings in sooo many styles.
@@adwood201 I'll bet Tati continues to slowly move out of strict metal with songs that are more prog, jazz, hip-hop, blues, reggae, and of course, some hard rock and metal. I hope the guys will want to do the same. I think they will, especially if she wants it.
I've pointed this out before, but Mr. Rupp! You are just the cutest!! I love watching your videos!!! And I love Tatiana! I watched the live at Wacken and wow. It's just incredible what human voices can do. Love your reactions!!! Keep them coming!!
There is some vocal layering but she’s the real deal just watch their live video performances which are high quality and the entire band are on top of it.No keyboard In the band and Tatiana now has a full frontal neck tatoo
This reaction blew my mind. I listen to a huge variety of genres and styles. I’m a long time Home Free fan, and have followed your career after you parted from the group and have enjoyed your content as well.
I’m also a long time Jinjer fan as well.
What a small wonderful world we live in.
I’m sure someone might have stated this, but it says in the description of song that there is post production on the final video, even though the studio session was a live, one-take.
That keyboard that you were referring to is actually Eugene doing his tappy tappy tap tap thing on his bass.
oh really? Thats cool, thanks
@@ChrisRuppOfficial I've never heard keys in this song, however the cymbal work perfectly accenting the guitar and bass tapping tap tappy adds a phenomenal dimension to the sound.
The best friend will not advise bad things , everyone needs such a friend .Pisces ( pronounced like spices , but without s ) is a zodiac sign symbolized by two fish ,one of the most contradictory and dual signs in astrology ,so her contrasting double vocals and mood swings make sense and fits perfectly into the meaning of this song.The lead singer and songwriter Tatiana is also Pisces ,so she perfectly described character traits of the people of this sign and tells the story of an unhappy Pisces girl and her bad life experience in personal relationships comparing her to a doomed fish.
"Perennial "live at Wacken 2019 next to appreciate her another talent - great stage presence , and enjoy beautiful lyrics .
Pisces is pronounced: "Pie"+"Seas" in English.
@@lazaruschernik18 thank you for the correction
Jinjer - Perennial live at Wacken)) this is how they Sound live. Absolutely amazing performance
I’ve seen them 4 times( yes, I’m blessed) and have yet to hear a live performance that did t rival their cd productions… they r beyond real…& Ambassadors to Ukraine
Pisces is all about duality. The Pisces zodiac sign is a dual sign. So this song captures that very well.
Yep, she is self taught. It took her 4 years to get the extreme vocals (screams/growls) down and without affecting her clean vocals. Tatiana is awesome. Welcome to the rabbit hole that is Jinjer :) All the band members are awesome as well. Eugene is the bassist, Roman is the guitarist, and Vlad is the drummer. Very talented group of people. And just really cool down to earth people as well.
I like your pointing out the technical parts of producing and how they setup a live session like that. I heard in an interview with Tatiana and Eugene that they recorded this session to highlight their drummer, Vlad, as he was new to the band at the time and brought a new feel and sound to this song. They showed up a little early and did a couple of backing vocal lines. They use tracks for fill in sometimes, so they probably had those vocal lines they recorded earlier come in at those points where it's fuller and had that synth effect come in toward the end with the track.
More songs to check out: All of their songs are great. This is just a list in the order I'd go about it.
I Speak Astronomy (official video) - off their King of Everything LP with their older drummer. Love this song!
Perennial (live at Wacken 2019) - awesome song and great to show her live vocals and switching between cleans and extreme.
Who is going to be the one (live) - great version of the song. Another song showing her extreme vocals and going from very low growls to really high screams.
Judgement (&Punishment) (one take vocal) - great showcasing Tatiana's vocals. It's awesome.
On the Top (live in Kiev and official video) - both are great.
Teacher, Teacher (official video) - great video of multiple live shows. An awesome song. Very technical (well all of their songs are quite technical).
Pit of Consciousness (live in Kiev and official video) - both great.
Home Back (official video) - very personal song for them about the war in the east of Ukraine and them having to leave their home.
There is more, but that will be a good start :).
The average Demon has to practice for many years just to be able to approach the guttural quality of Tatiana’s growls.
To my knowledge there aren't any keys/synths in this. It's all guitar and bass. Jinjer is 4 members.
Sounds like there's a backing track of some kind of keyboards along with the doubling tracks at approximately 3:30 into this. Listen closely. Subtle but there. This seems to have been recorded live, mixed, sweetened, and edited for the final video. I mean, even live they run backing tracks and from what I can tell, they're all wearing in-ear monitors. That Live at Wacken Perennial also has a backing track that plays. First thing that plays at the beginning of the song. It seems there's also another backing vocal track also playing later in that performance because you can hear double vocals.
It's not a bad thing. It helps live performances and it's a normal/pro thing to do and almost everybody does it. The artists don't rely on these tracks but they help thicken the sound.
@@RobertLindabury o.k. on the actual video there is a wind/voice sound at 3:18 and fades out just before Neptune's child shivering inside....
Tatiana's voice is incredible and the band is super tight and talented...Hell the whole band is incredibly talented
Check out judgment and punishment live one take studio session from her, truly amazing
Great reaction to a truly special band! Check out something live to really see all this talent on stage: "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019.
Jinjer is great stuff. Keep exploring this band. Have fun.
if you listen to this interview she talks about her singing style Tatiana Shmayluk of Jinjer: Tea Time Interview with Elizabeth Zharoff
Must do who's gonna be the one live... and teacher teacher... for sure... Great reaction... thank you. 😊
Welcome to jinjer. Pronounced Pie-cees. Perennial live at Wacken shows her talent well.
I am sure a lot will tell you, but Jinjer is the band and the singer is Tatiana Shmaylyuk. Roman, Vlad, and Eugene are the other members and each is an exceptional musician. No keyboards used, that is Eugene doing Eugene things on bass, and Roman on his guitar.
Could you imaging Home Free covering this song? Austin doing the jazz/pop parts, Rob and Chance doing the guitar tones, Adam Rupp doing the percussion and Tim doing the extreme vocal fry parts, because well he does sing in that range.
I always melt when she sings 'skittish'
You want the voice of an Angel or of a Demon?
Tatjana: Yes!
You ain't seen nothing yet!!!!!!!
I believe the technique is called Tuvan throatsinging. (Better ask Adam).
It did sound like she was possessed! But yeah, very interesting and so skilled!
Maybe react to Steve’n’Seagulls.. interesting versions of Thunderstruck, Nothing Else Matters and so on.
Yeah, me too, can't seem to get him interested in S&S, maybe if more people keep mentioning it? I even told him there was a wrench and anvil and a tractor involved, and still nothin', crickets. :-)
False cord screaming, using the vestibular folds aka false cords, or death growls since it comes out of the death metal genre, where sounding like a demon was kind of the goal. Before the technique was established, people would actually blow their voice out, because they'd use the vocal folds to make similar sounds like these, which is extremely unhealthy and can cause permanent damage to them.
@@Dark__Thoughts I know one of the basic rules in singing is, if it hurts don't do it, figure out another way to make the sound without discomfort or excessive fatigue. It was funny on many of the reactions from voice coaches you could see they were literally looking like they were in pain. One even said, my jaw hurts. They were ALL blown away though, and gave her massive props for her technique.
I did watch a video from the guy that does the goofy style challenges with Peter Hollens (they are fun, and this guy does killer Sinatra) showing a bit about screaming the correct way. Very interesting. They had one on his channel where he and an opera singer taught each other some of their style of singing. That was pretty enlightening, too.
@@MrJdsenior Yes, only very few vocal coaches can teach you this. The majority is completely uneducated about it, a lot of them don't even know about it at all. But it gets increasingly more popular and mainstream nowadays, and Tatiana is one of the reasons why. She is also a major reason why we see a lot more women trying to get into this, as this is usually a very male dominated genre and vocal style. More diversity in music is always welcome, and Jinjer is providing that on more than just vocals- It's such a talented band.
I can recommend the Pisces video of Kardavox Academy too, he also does some live examples.
@@Dark__Thoughts Adam Rupp uses a lot of throat bass, but I don’t know if he knows how to do Tuvian throat singing. But then again, is there anything he couldn’t do (or learn).
More Jinjer please :) Their songs are very diverse !
VoiceHacks channel (Mary Zimmerman) has some interesting how it works videos on false cord and fry scream vocal techniques.
Give Perennial a chance! Both official music video and live at Wacken are must see!
Pie-seas
Don't know how much further you've fallen into the Jinjer rabbit hole, but here's an interview she did on Loudwire about how she developed her vocal techniques...
ruclips.net/video/UBrqWYMBm60/видео.html
If you are now interested in some metal, in addition to Jinjer you should def check Nightwish. I recommend Shoemaker from their latest album
I don't mean to alarm you, but there appears to be a stripe of high-pitched noise on this video, mostly on the right channel.
It sounds to me as if your mic is picking up the noise of your computer's fans or something like that...
listen to live at wacken jinjer
Real real!
I love her normal voice, not so much the other one. Your reaction was great.
It's pronounced Pie seas. & It's called the death metal scream. Thank you for this, luv.
You were close about the mic thing, but actually not entirely correct. The primary reason she is pressed straight against the mic is that the style of screaming she is doing, especially to create such a masculine sound (which was what she aimed for when learning) requires very little air pressure and sound. If she did not have the mic literally pressed to her lips, it would not sound anything close to that.
From my understanding from seeing so many vocal coach reactions, someone correct if I misremembered the exact dynamics.
We have quite a few Metal Goddeses around nowadays, each one pretty unique in her own talent.
My vote goes for a lesser known one: Elli Berlin (Null Positiv)
Their ballad *Wo Rauch ist, ist auch Feuer* is a good start, or you can dive right into heavier stuff like *Kollapse* or *Hass*
Edit, for everyone's convenience:
*Wo Rauch ist, ist auch Feuer*
ruclips.net/video/lOIy-i6c_iI/видео.html
If you'd like another excellent metal band signed to Napalm Records, try Unleash the Archers "Awakening". Another excellent vocalist. (No growls like Tatiana, though.)
Listen to live from wacken.
I like reeses pisces.
Jinjer is a very interesting band both to listen and to watch reactions to.
There is also some unexpected diversity in none of Nightwish songs: ruclips.net/video/XtXqUNB8zrU/видео.html (Yours Is an Empty Hope). And some of demons of hell are also here: ruclips.net/video/kL4GovLisOI/видео.html (Arch Enemy, Eagle Flies Alone, though little to no diversity in it).
Normally yes , you would have to train but, I think she may be a special case and has a ton of it naturally. She may have done some school, though, most others go to the Rock Academy thing that they have. There's a few girls over there that can growl, but they don't switch it like this. Most rely on the male vocal to do it. I love both together a bit more taste wise but I most certainly appreciate Tatiana. and omg....yes that was too cute lol. Much love XOXO
It's self taught, but she did of course train first. You not just have to learn the proper technique to do this healthily, but also have to re-learn how to do proper pronunciation when doing so.
you can find the video where she tells how she learnt to growl
keyboard????
A music producer that apparently likes to add ground hum & analogue tape hiss to his videos. And there's no synth or keyboards in the band.
She's the Mariah Carey of Metal.
Its the star sign its pronunced Pre-Sees. How can you not know that everyone I knew, knew how to pronounce Pisces before the age of fifteen.
And you mock his! I get it this music isn't for everyone. But her vocals are incredibly difficult to do. Every band member plays to support everyone else. Plus thdrumers techniques is very technical and spot on, The music is soulful, hypnotic, and otherworldly, to draw you in before kicking out the jams with Tatiana's growls and the guitars intensity.
You work in the music insustry and you give such a shoddy assessment of the band. I am not well versed in music, technique and terminology and I could analyze it better.
In fact I just did. In fact a lot of unqualified youtubers have a better ability to describe what they are hearing rhan you. I don't wish too be such an ass, but if you claim to be a music producer you are really really embarrassing yourself. Honestly I only give the rant because you have the audacity to call yourself a Music Producer and show such a lack of fundamental understanding of basic music craftsmanship its embarrassing.
she doesn't stund nothing..
i got 2 long-ass\badass lists with awesome musik and bands hope you find something you like and might want to react to if you like them
list one:metal,punk,rock
Beastie Boys
BROTHERS OF METAL
bloodywood
Lambretta
Alice Cooper
Drowning Pool
alien weaponry
Dio
Kelun
Infected Rain
Simple Plan
melechesh
NINGEN ISU
before crush
The Pretty Reckless
Raubtier
Nanowar of Steel
Children Of Bodom
tool
shepherds reign
Metal family
Volbeat
Dethklok
22 Even
incebus
Marilyn Manson
ELEINE
deserted fear
Busted
Finntroll
distict unknown
Halocene
Sonic Syndicate
LOK
Papa Roach
Dokken
Bush
Alestorm
Hollow Ground
BETZEFER
Machine Head
Billy Idol
Good Charlotte
slipknot
odious
Rallypack'
link in park
Tarot
Rancid
parkway drive
Wind rose
Saliva
DragonForce
demonic ressurrection
Jonathan Young
Valor
Metro Station
Roju
Grailknights
VINTERSEA
wormrot
Hoobastank
The Rasmus
BROJOB
UNLEASH THE ARCHERS
gloryhammer
Candlemass
Nine Inch Nails
Hammerfall
A Sound of Thunder
Rush
The Toadies
WARKINGS
Scars On Broadway
seether,
stone sour,
FLOW
Whitesnake
Sepultura
the offspring
3rd
sum 41
chthonic
Apocalyptica
Evanescence
pelleko
puddle of Mudd
sick puppies
Alice Cooper
mokoma
five finger death punch
Journey
Halocene
frozen crown
Kamelot
STORM SEEKER
The All-American Rejects
High On Fire
Killswitch Engage
Centox
Soundgarden
avatar
Nekrogoblikon
Goo Goo Dolls
Bullet For My Valentine
DEVILOOF
acrassicauda
Shinedown
lillasyster
ICED EARTH
Coal Chamber
Slayer
Halestorm
Mötley Crüe
Weezer
IGNEA
High and Mighty Color
AFI
BELZEBUBS
Sex Pistols
Trapt
iron maiden
Overkill
Wheatus
Stone Temple Pilot
Manowar
Sons Of Texas
Led Zeppelin
My Chemical Romance
Greta Van Fleet
YUNGBLUD
Republica
Magic dragon
Forsaking Fate
OZZY OSBOURNE
Apocalyptica
Lauren Babic
AL-namrood
twisted sister
The Used
Audioslave
Running Wild
Sick and wired
Megadeth
W.A.S.P.
Black Label Society
System Of A Down
edda grön
Starcrawler
Make Them Suffer
KONGOS
queen of the stone age
AC/DC
Monster Magnet
Stereopony
Scorpions
Ensiferum
Type O Negative
ASIAN KUNG-FU GENERATION
HELLOWEEN
Mudvayne
Meat Loaf
SHADOWBANE
Freak Kitchen
XANDRIA
Toxic Holocaust
black stone cherry
Muse
Nate Wants To Battle
Within Temptation
Deep Purple
Texas Hippie Coalition
Rage Of Light
BLACK SABBATH
DRACONIAN
Blacktop Mojo
Behemoth
Bloodhound Gang
BAD OMENS
The Bangles
Batmetal
IMPERIAL AGE
Kiss
UVERworld
Accept
Live My Last
Primus
Icon for Hire
ORDEN OGAN
Delain
DAZZLE VISION
Motionless In White
Judas Priest
Amaranthe
Orbit Culture
Reel Big Fish
Bush
Buckcherry,
Shadow of Intent
P.O.D.
YUI
FabvL
Staind,
Mushroomhead,
Dream Theater
Siouxsie And The Banshees
Jimmy Eat World
Superbutt
3 dorrs down
Smash Mouth
Three Days Grace
Neither
Running Wild
nirvana
The Cardigans
babymetal
Straight Line Stitch
ksmb
arch enemy
sabaton
Rob Zombie
Suicidal Tendencies
Blackbriar
Bowling For Soup
A Flock Of Seagulls
dia psalma
Billy Idol
Nightwish
Spiderbait
Ram Jam
Fall Out Boy
Opeth
köttgrottan
Avril Lavigne
Norman Greenbaum
blink 182
Breaking Benjamin
MÅNEGARM
Warrant
Bowling For Soup
Mustasch
The Hellacopters
Viagra Boys
Raspberries
the ark
möterhead
Amon Amarth
paramore
Dreadnaut
Talking Heads
KANA-BOON
pearl jam
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Psychostick
backyard babe´s
Black Debbath
Divide Music
lamb of the god
Godsmack
fall out boy
Dispyt
Wolfheart
The Regrettes
Static-X
asta kask
Native Howl's
Slash
Frog Leap studios
Okilly Dokilly
Moonspell
Once Human
Rammstein
Incubus
The Distillers
Keno-Ohayou
Crimson Glory
Limp Bizkit
White Zombie
gwar
Belphegor
Falling In Reverse
Obituary
Cage The Elephant
lordi
Breaking Benjamin
avenged Sevenfold
Cradle of Filth
Journey
the darkness
ghost
Maid of Ace
Velvet Revolver
theory of a dead man
mimikry
korn
Foo Fighters
Everclear
disturbed
Ugly Kid Joe
David Hasselhoff
Blind Melon
pantera
ELUVEITIE
Survivors Zero
steel pathers
SYNLAKROSS
Counting Crows
list two:folk, country, rap, pop, covers funk + other
Jonna Jinton,
heilung
Cappella
Unlogix
George Thorogood
2CELLOS
Rap Knight
Butthole Surfers
måns zelmerlöw
Growling Mad Scientists
The Shamen
Shao Dow
petter
John Moreland
Caravan Palace
Becky G
Blue Man Group
Swedish House Mafia
First to Eleven
Folder 5
Bomfunk MC's
Justin Cross
Hallucinogen
GameboyJones
Wardruna
Mousse T vs. Hot'N'Juicy
Rod Stewart
Rag'n'Bone Man
Gangstagrass
Vini Vici
Breeton Boi
First to Eleven
Ivy Levan
Raon Lee
Jim Reeves
Yelawolf
eldkvarn
Westlife
Astrix
ALEXANDER RYBAK
Charly Black
Night Runner
Connor Quest
The Tamperer feat. Maya
Roy Clark
The Prodigy
peps persson
LEX the Lexicon
Alpha Portal
CDawgVA
Da Vinci's Notebook
AC Slater
Russia Insight
Darius Rucker
Hilight Tribe
Gealdýr
Gente de Zona
Haddaway
Chris Kläfford
Maroon 5
Veronica Maggio
Benny Benassi
Shpongle
Paradisio
VI Seconds
Guru Josh
kent
Bitmonx & Fabio
Becky G
SonReal
Videogamerapbattles
Depeche Mode
ghali
Danheim
AWOLNATION
Dreaded Yasuke
The Builders and the Butchers
Faithless
Fatboy Slim
Bombs Away
HalaCG
Blake Shelton
Ann Lee
Redbone
Björn Skifs
loke nyberg
SailorUrLove
Ylvis
Sash!
Brantley Gilbert
the dead south
Sophia Dere
MoDo
Uncle Kracker
Paleowolf
Main Street barbershop
Wamdue Project
3OH!3
Igorrr
Savvy Hyuga
Aqua
Blues Saraceno
M.I.A.
The Ting Tings
DR BOMBAY
Mean Mary
Brothers Osborne
Robert Miles
Savage Garden
2 Unlimited
The White Buffalo
OMC
Myrkur
Alice Deeja
Eiffel
Baker The Legend
Movits!
Skrillex & Damian "Jr Gong" Marley
rumjack
Anilah
The Real McCoy
Sonzira
Garbage
Carrie Underwood
Luis Fonsi
Cracker
Eivør Pálsdóttir
Nightcore
Zach Boucher
BURNS
Mr Oizo
The Brothers Bright
Munknörr
Bryan Adams
Scooter
foggy molly
Talking Heads
Maxx
Robbie Williams
dropkick Murphys
SKÁLD
La Bouche
Blackberry Smoke
On The Drums · Pickle
Wild Child
Caravan Palace
faun
Marvin Gaye · Tammi Terrell
Pale Waves
Cobra Starship
The Black Eyed Peas
Vengaboys
Rachel Hardy
Anilah
The Veronicas
Cher Lloyd
Chris Stapleton
Lou Bega
Patty Gurdy
Rehab
DIE ANTWOORD
Gjallarhorn
Chilli feat. Carrapicho
Caleb Hyles
Everything but the Girl
Daft Punk
home free
Bryce Fox
Phat's and Small
Blake Shelton
Corona
infected mushroom
Sting
Meghan Trainor
the Real McKenzies
DJ Quicksilver
Karliene
Halocene
maromaro1337
Urban Cookie Collective
sorkar och strängar
Metal Injection
Anubis · Brandberg
Daddyphatsnaps
Scatman John
Hailee Steinfeld
Army of Lovers
Midland
Einar Selvik
Jessie J
The Prodigy
The Bridge City Sinners
Pomplamoose
LMFAO
Toby Keith
Cake
Scary Pockets
Livin' Joy
Rúnfell
Culture Beat
Dorothy
Ranthiel Soprano
Ace of Base
Robyn Adele Anderson
SHWABADi
FRESHLY SQUEEZED
Kati Rán
ATB
Uncle Lucius
Sean Kingston
AURORA
Blackbriar
twenty one pilots
Larkin Poe
Garmarna
BBE
The Correspondents
Brother Dege
Mike Posner
Magic Affair
little dicky
Alina Gingertail
Heldom
Icona Pop
Rascal Flatts
N-Trance
The Hackensaw Boys
Rustage
Travie McCoy
Snap!
Dan bull
Billy Currington
Anna Kendrick
Iggy Azalea
weird al
Sabrina Carpenter
Leila K
The Steel Woods
Peter Gundry | Composer
gorillaz
Trace Adkins
Nightcrawlers
Mac Lethal - 27 Styles Of Rapping
None Like Joshua
Charli XCX
abba
Bellini
Gretchen Wilson
Members of Mayday
False chord scream with vocal fry
Time for some Nightwish? Disregard, I saw you've done it.
false vocal folds
They don't need keyboard
It's not a keyboard, LOOK AT THE BASS PLAYER!!
No keyboards - all you were hearing was bass or guitar.
Don't forget the cymbals, fantastic blend with the guitar.
@@genxhippie3973 Of course! But I don't think he was mixing up the cymbals with keyboards.
It's a demon growling. Obviously! Sad that you don't get it.
Why review demonic voices.
Goodbye Chris.
Put it on, take it off, put it back on. You're as bad as I am. :-) Yeah, I had exactly the same reaction, I'd like to see her do that without a mic. There are voice altering devices out there that can do some pretty amazing things. One scam baiter I watch has multiple ones running in a session and then records and plays them back while he's talking and you'd probably believe there are three different people if you were on the phone with him.
Yeah, IIRC the exterior noise cancelling mics of old, like in aircraft were differential sound pressure measurements between to elements, close up sound changes a lot, far away generated sound, not so much. Could be wrong, what I remember though, don't quote me.
original voice, check video perennial live wacken
Yeah, you re wrong... and I'm definitely going to quote you.
@@Tobyc1315 Now THAT"S the spirit!!!! :-) Just remember, my name is Chris Rupp. :-)
It's not like it is particularly unusual. Plenty of amateurs on YT doing passable immitations at an amateur level - just look up Pisces vocal cover. No need to come up with a conspiracy theory. Besides if awesomeness was that easy to fake nobody would have weaksauce growls.
@@j.f.fisher5318 What conspiracy??? Assuming that was a joke.
Vocalists at a professional level use all kinds of tools to modify their voices, instruments, etc., it's not a secret. In fact it is almost impossible to find professional recordings with actual natural sounding human voices on it any more...most of it is studio'd to death. I wasn't accusing her of anything, just wondering about the techniques.
I will look it up the covers, so far I've just been watching first time viewing voice coaches reacting, and they are hilarious...they actually look like they are in pain, after the shock wears off. Again, I would like to hear it without a mic to see if it is purely a mic technique, like growling out 0th octave base notes, and MUCH lower, one guy.
Pisces = pie-sees. Really?
I respect the talent, just not what I care to listen to.
Now that is one that I did not enjoy at all. I hope I never hear another of her songs.
Appreciate the talent, but not my kind of music though.