1000Mbps Gigabit Fiber Optic Internet for Gaming... Worth It? (My Experience)

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  • Is 1000Mbps Gigabit Fiber Optic internet for gaming worth it?? My review and experience using gigabit fiber internet for gaming... Is it Is gaming on fiber Internet better?? This is my experience #1000mbps #internet
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  • @ElSchizo
    @ElSchizo 5 лет назад +525

    Pin me pls i love you glasscock

  • @shmookins
    @shmookins 4 года назад +32

    It blows my mind that when the lower floors were flooded, you still had electricity in the building. Man, that is some quality infrastructure.

  • @ravenarts984
    @ravenarts984 2 года назад +12

    I work for metronet fiber and I can say that it’s very handy for not only speeds but when you call in we can see the signal level and have control with rebooting and seeing what exactly is wrong if you have an issue. In my opinion working with fiber and hearing feedback from customers with our service fiber is the way to go and if you call in we take care of the issue 93% of the time

  • @grizz9330
    @grizz9330 5 лет назад +96

    Your download speed is LITERALLY 500x faster than mine.

    • @NothingbutnothING
      @NothingbutnothING 3 года назад +1

      then get fiber

    • @WhispaOW
      @WhispaOW 3 года назад +8

      @@NothingbutnothING lmao not every place can get fiber, and some companies charge like 3k if you live far away from other fiber users. They literally have to build it if you don’t already have it. I watched the video cause I just bought 500/500 mb speed and now I have to wait 4 months until they can build it

    • @NothingbutnothING
      @NothingbutnothING 3 года назад +1

      @@WhispaOW then they should stop living in dumbass places

    • @yodamaster445
      @yodamaster445 3 года назад

      @@NothingbutnothING Well I live in the middle of a city

    • @greyfiveys
      @greyfiveys 3 года назад +1

      @@NothingbutnothING ...
      some people don’t have that option, buddy.

  • @benjaminrobledo5466
    @benjaminrobledo5466 5 лет назад +207

    *- As I watch in 240P... And it's buffering as I type this...*

    • @niko2002
      @niko2002 4 года назад +3

      Benjamin Robledo just make do what you have you’ll get a better one before you know it

    • @tylerrodgers1693
      @tylerrodgers1693 4 года назад

      century link asf

    • @talhah1111
      @talhah1111 4 года назад +1

      lol I’m watching in 720p Rn I’m planning to get Fido’s gigabyte I have Fios 200 megabytes rn.

    • @AverageDude-vw6ed
      @AverageDude-vw6ed 4 года назад +1

      So true but
      That's was in my past wifi connection
      I'm no longer suffering
      Weak wifi connection

    • @benjaminrobledo5466
      @benjaminrobledo5466 4 года назад +1

      @@niko2002
      Been a year since I commented on this... Wifi if anything is worse....

  • @dannyearly446
    @dannyearly446 3 года назад +23

    Love how everyone is complaining about having less then 10mbs. While I over here with 250kbs on a good day

    • @andy_t6349
      @andy_t6349 3 года назад +1

      Can that even play tho

    • @DevonLadd
      @DevonLadd 2 года назад

      Lol, i will no longer complain about my 1mbs, live in the mountains so no one provides up here sadly

    • @gabrielsmith1179
      @gabrielsmith1179 2 года назад

      I feel that pain🤣

    • @xuimod
      @xuimod Месяц назад

      You live in the sticks though.

  • @mlzz805
    @mlzz805 5 лет назад +229

    I'd choose a 100/100 fiber connection over a 400/20 cable connection all day long if they were at a similar price.
    Fiber is very reliable and there's no random down time like with cable internet.

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +40

      Facts of life

    • @inactive2305
      @inactive2305 5 лет назад +7

      I never have a random down time & I have cable lol

    • @wvbzy
      @wvbzy 5 лет назад +13

      @@inactive2305 I have never had an outage with google fiber... with my old cable provider I had outages atleast 2 a week for about 10-20 minutes at a time. and when there is a storm even then it will go out. so i switched to google fiber and it has never had an outage even when there is a big storm.

    • @ghostface2556
      @ghostface2556 5 лет назад +7

      @@wvbzy must be nice to live in a place that offers Google fiber.

    • @maklat901
      @maklat901 5 лет назад +3

      ml zz agree fiber is best for gaming. Upload and download same thats positive

  • @RandomPate
    @RandomPate 3 года назад +2

    100% with you on the gateway thing. Although I'm sure the ISP provided equipment can supply the speeds on the contract. At least you can put your own router in DMZ if you can't set the gateway to bridged mode and have to deal with double NAT.

  • @thexophguy
    @thexophguy 5 лет назад +338

    i was gonna sub . but then i saw emptty giant table on backround . that is a table . tables are meant to be put stuff on them . u r wasting your tables life . unless you take immediate and serious action about this issue i wont sub . threat your table with respect .

    • @BAT_115
      @BAT_115 5 лет назад +32

      Let me get this straight you’re threatening not to subscribe to him unless he threatens his table with some respect. What an ultimatum.

    • @thexophguy
      @thexophguy 5 лет назад +25

      @@BAT_115 u must be a nuclear physicist.

    • @BAT_115
      @BAT_115 5 лет назад +6

      thexophguy You got a keen eye for these things don’t you?

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +65

      The moral of the story is If you're going to make a threat, do it respectfully. Especially when you're talking to a table

    • @dbomba
      @dbomba 5 лет назад +1

      But there was a Google home on it😂

  • @ftgphantom621
    @ftgphantom621 5 лет назад +822

    LOL I get 95 ping on a good day

    • @tagoking7185
      @tagoking7185 5 лет назад +90

      @@kas-lw7xz k kid

    • @Revenvge
      @Revenvge 5 лет назад +6

      @@kas-lw7xz what wifi do you own

    • @erickm.9218
      @erickm.9218 5 лет назад +15

      dude same, i can’t go more than three seconds without a network issue on online games. thankfully after soooo many years at&t fiber is going to replace this shi77y dsl service

    • @mr.randomgamer888
      @mr.randomgamer888 5 лет назад +18

      I get 220 on a good day, 600 on a bad day

    • @ayhamkhasawneh9816
      @ayhamkhasawneh9816 5 лет назад +35

      I get 1100 ping on a good day and 1100 ping on a bad day

  • @BLaZiNgSPEED89
    @BLaZiNgSPEED89 5 лет назад +9

    Interesting video! I have an important question I'd like to ask which I have been curious to know for some time. Does a pure fibre connection sort out multiplayer latency with faraway countries? For example playing a game like FIFA UK or US vs Australia is associated with serious latency delay where after you press the button the ball is passed 2-5 seconds later. This is extremely frustrating to the point where I have to avoid being matched up with people from Australia, New Zealand, India, etc as the online gameplay experience is totally unplayable.
    Now the question is if I had a pure Fibre to the premises connection and the opponent from Australia/New Zealand also had a pure Fibre connection, will this solve or improve the latency/lag issue online with these players so the online gameplay experience was smooth as if you were playing in the same continent? Or is the technology still not advanced enough to face such players online from faraway countries? If fibre broadband does not solve the latency issue in multiplayer online then I would have less regrets about not having it yet!

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +2

      Matchmaking is determined by the game server algorithm not the type if internet you have. The servers usually look at your geographical location based on your IP when matchmaking. If both you and your friend had pure fiber it's possible the latency would be lower but there would definitly still be higher than desired latency

  • @lakerskid2013
    @lakerskid2013 Год назад +2

    I have AT&T Internet, fiber optic and it’s a really good experience. The last time I had Internet in my name before 2020 was with Frontier from 2016-2018 and that was 5 Mbps. I could barely play any games a lot of times on my PS4, then for a couple of years when there was someone’s house I was living at that one was 40 Mbps through U-Verse, good but not great. The 1000 Mbps has made such a huge difference for me especially since I have multiple devices connected to it although most of it not simultaneously. My phone, tablet, PS4, PS5, and security cameras all work well within the system just fine. Of course it helps that I live by myself too but still, fiber Internet is definitely the way to go if you can afford it.

  • @TheSentinel091482
    @TheSentinel091482 4 года назад +3

    It depends on the game. From the time I joined Verizon Fios when I play BO2, mw3 or bo1 my bullets hit so hard. I can hear other players say "this guy eats bullets and doesn't die". I can tell the difference for sure. In newer games like bo3, bo4 I don't notice any difference at all.

  • @RallyDon82
    @RallyDon82 5 лет назад +7

    The thing i found is some providers might have the same speeds as others but the ping might be worse , the ping is vital that its the best it can be for online gaming as the actual data that is transferred between games is not that much at all so a relatively cheap dsl package that has decent ping is all you need of course that's where you need to do your homework and know what your provider is actually providing.

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, that is true I always had very decent pings with comcast

  • @cadillacmack0326
    @cadillacmack0326 4 года назад +3

    Hey John what’s the best kind of router to use when you have multiple systems in your home playing the same game

  • @hiroki_rinn
    @hiroki_rinn 5 лет назад +1

    I rely on good packet trace routs for the game I play and I currently have Comcast’s 1,000 Mbps down and 30 up and it’s not all that different from the 350 down and 15 up. Granted I believe it’s still cooper-based. Now AT&T’s 1 gig up and down via fiber was pretty much the best love of my life. Until one of their trunk lines ate it. Then I cried.

  • @NineNineSevenTurbo
    @NineNineSevenTurbo 5 лет назад +1

    I used to have Comcast too until I discovered, after upgrading some network equipment, that their connection was bottlenecking my network...
    I was getting some terrible bufferbloat and I didn’t have a good QOS in place. Which, you don’t actually need on a gigabit fiber since it’s highly unlikely you will be saturating that connection so you aren’t really losing anything much. I find QOS to hurt my throughput more often then it helps. I get consistent 900-950Mbps upstream and down with it off but will dip into the 800’s with it on.
    Also, I advise against using upnp, it’s convenient but at the cost of network security... Port forwarding would or even triggering would be a better choice. Still not secure, but less vulnerable than upnp... The best way, if you can afford it, would be to invest in an extra router and switch and isolate them on separate VLAN from any important devices.
    As for the “required” gateway issue, that one was pretty trivial to sort out... I’ll send you a message about that one if you’d still like to use your own router... 😏

  • @therebelsmurf5443
    @therebelsmurf5443 3 года назад +4

    I dont know man, but from my experience everytime I've upgraded speed wise my ping has gone down. Maybe it's because they upgraded the equipment at the same time. My isp sends fiber to the node and then copper from the node to house. They call it a hybrid internet. It has been very reliable, not much to complain about. Soon though another company will be installing fiber in my area so I'm very anxious to try it out. Also it seems that my overall performance in multiplayer games have gotten significantly better with each increase in internet speed. With that being said I live out in the sticks far away from any servers so if I can get an internet speed that shortens the time it takes to send information to those servers then sign me up. In my opinion faster is always better as long as quality is there to.

  • @willsteward1631
    @willsteward1631 5 лет назад +249

    Dang spent so much on the internet, he can only afford them cheap tables

    • @willsteward1631
      @willsteward1631 5 лет назад +2

      Hype World how does that make sense?

    • @epixwheelz5515
      @epixwheelz5515 5 лет назад +17

      For me i half my street has fiber and half has DSL, sadly im on the DSL side. And my neighbors on the fiber side pay way less than i do for my shity 5Mbps DSL

    • @willsteward1631
      @willsteward1631 5 лет назад +5

      Epix Wheelz what a scam dude

    • @ryan2k584
      @ryan2k584 5 лет назад

      Ok fatty

    • @willsteward1631
      @willsteward1631 5 лет назад +2

      Alpha Dog Ryan I like food, so what

  • @yaxel38
    @yaxel38 3 года назад +1

    I've been with Comcast/Xfinity since 2005 and I haven't never been disappointed, last month just upgraded to 600mbps and so far so good 👍

  • @luketaylor1305
    @luketaylor1305 5 лет назад +1

    Used to get 4 megabits a second, and when I got fibre to the node, copper from node to home internet, it went up to 50mb/s and that's lightning fast for me :)

  • @babydoxer7847
    @babydoxer7847 5 лет назад +371

    I get 1.2 MB’s max sooo

  • @Emseeskwair
    @Emseeskwair 4 года назад +4

    Spectrum has outages in my area everyday around 2am. Definitely considering switching to Fiber now. Thanks for the video!

    • @techmymoneyTMM
      @techmymoneyTMM 3 года назад

      Checking out a plan now. Was daily trading yesterday and spectrum had an outage!

  • @dustinwh84
    @dustinwh84 5 лет назад

    Dude I’m so glad I found your channel I live in Houston to & you have the same service as me I’ve watched a couple of your vids on At&T and they’ve helped explain a few things for me ! Keep up the good work & thanks again

  • @omnitronyoutube
    @omnitronyoutube 3 месяца назад

    watched it in x2 good pace i like the review and im getting it tomorrow scheduled 2 days ago, good to know what im getting myself into

  • @MisfortuneFeeva
    @MisfortuneFeeva 5 лет назад +3

    Hey a heads up
    Your OS and network card need to be compatible with gigabit speeds
    You need a good cable
    Use that quantum router they offer
    Make sure you actually do router set up to optimize
    Use 5ghz bands for priority devices
    If possible, try manual prioritization or using DMZ

  • @SL1PSTAR
    @SL1PSTAR 4 года назад +17

    Answer in a nutshell 6:30
    In order to measure somethings "worth" we have to look at our interpretation. Everyone has a different experience of "worth".

    • @Real.384
      @Real.384 3 года назад

      That's bs I had cable internet before and the ping was bad and I had issues went to fibre internet fixed all issue and lowered my latency

    • @azhar6001
      @azhar6001 2 года назад

      @@Real.384 thats literally what he said

  • @ze1and0nly
    @ze1and0nly 5 лет назад +4

    You can turn off the wifi part and then just hook up your router like you would normally done it with every isp ever that's provided combos

  • @PimpinCS
    @PimpinCS 5 лет назад +1

    I have bell fiber 1.5gbps download and 1gbps upload and its good ! I wanna start recording my downloads for games

  • @elmergloo3259
    @elmergloo3259 5 лет назад +17

    Internet speed doesn’t matter for gaming. ISPs say that just to make the sale. Gaming hardly uses any data so as long as you have at least a consistent 10+mbps you won’t notice much of an improvement. You will want more bandwidth if you have other people doing other things on the internet at the same time as you. Ping is your best friend for gaming and you can’t pay for a better ping. Ping varies based on location, ISP, equipment used, etc. nothing really in your control.
    Internet speeds of 1Gbps is good for downloading or uploading large files very fast. It can download a game fast, but if the game is already installed on your computer you aren’t going to get any different of an experience. It’s also good if you want 200 people on your network to be able to stream Netflix at the same time. I can’t see any reason to have 1Gbps in a home unless you are really impatient and need to download a 4GB file in 4 minutes instead of 30 minutes everyone now and then.

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +1

      Yup

    • @devon1473
      @devon1473 5 лет назад +3

      You're right, but most people generally want higher speeds just for consistency.

    • @SirTazTTV
      @SirTazTTV 5 лет назад +2

      You’ve obviously never played games competitively

    • @devon1473
      @devon1473 5 лет назад +4

      @@SirTazTTV Hes right in some way. Ping is all that matters. Higher speeds is just for more consistency.

    • @elmergloo3259
      @elmergloo3259 5 лет назад

      Sir Taz I do play games competitively. I am also an IT professional. Ping is has the greater effect on your gaming experience. Download/Upload speed has a minimal effect on gaming. Yes you will want a slightly faster speed than you need for a consistency cushion to leave enough bandwidth available to whatever other people or devices are using your network, but that doesn’t mean you will need 1Gbps. 50-100Mbps is a good cushion range for most families. If you live alone and just use a LAN cable 20Mbps is the most you will need for consistency in gaming assuming you don’t have a bunch of IoT devices on your network and aren’t trying to stream video at the same time . There are many variables and every household is different, but if you lived alone and your PC was the only thing using internet you could actually game just fine with a consistent 5-10Mbps. The only reason you need higher speeds is to allow background internet using processes on your PC and/or people and IoT devices on your network to do what they need to without taking away from the bandwidth you need.
      Most people I know that have internet issues this is their main problem. Every ISP I’ve had they have had consistent speeds almost exact to what I am paying for. The router/modems they provide have terrible WiFi though and that is what most people overlook. I have friends who have paid for 20-100Mbps internet and only use the ISP provided router and complain they only get 2-5Mbps. It is because they are using the crappy built-in single-band WiFi on the router and a family of 4-6 people are all trying to use it at the same time at different edges of the house. However when I plugged my laptop into their router’s Ethernet port I always got the exact speed they were paying for. I know Ethernet cables don’t work for everyone based on router location and computer location, but you can still get a fast wireless network working with a decent tri-band router.
      I have a family of 4 and we currently have 60Mbps. I can game with 19ms ping on Overwatch with zero interruptions while my wife is watching RUclips on her phone and my son is watching shows on Netflix on our TV. I could probably live with 40Mbps for my family’s usage, but 60Mbps is the lowest option my ISP has. 1Gbps is a huge cushion that most households will never need unless you have 100 kids watching HD cat videos at the same time.

  • @christopherarellano4108
    @christopherarellano4108 5 лет назад +28

    That feel when I have to pay 120 for only internet at 25mbps. Com south RIP off

    • @jamorant944
      @jamorant944 4 года назад +2

      Christopher Arellano sams brav😪. rural area struggle my guy

    • @HuxchoMon
      @HuxchoMon 4 года назад +1

      Wait so is 1000 mbps better than 100??

    • @yo848
      @yo848 4 года назад

      Kidnies134 yes

    • @etka6973
      @etka6973 4 года назад +1

      i pay $50 for 1000 mbps

    • @golquicjscoper
      @golquicjscoper 3 года назад

      Mediacom offers it

  • @antipastio7287
    @antipastio7287 5 лет назад +2

    Glasscock so after continuing to watch your vids, I am pretty certain that my distance to travel is pretty solid, and my lines are pretty solid. The bufferbloat however is absolute turds. Due to not having qos settings in my router and the frustration with customer service, I’m considering the N600. Or am I stuck with the gateway?:/ if so any qos software?Thanks for the help bro

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад

      I would only recommend getting an N600 or something like that if you have slow speeds. Check out my recent gaming network setup vid

  • @turner4243
    @turner4243 2 года назад +1

    In my opinion there is a bit of an advantage with fiber compared to cable. It’s a bit subtle and I’m not confident it’s not a placebo thing but I’m pretty sure the shot s registration feels more smooth and consistent. I especially notice it with csgo other games not really so much. I had an internet a cable internet provider called NewWave, KT was 200 up and like 30 down and only had like 2 or 3 days in 4 years without service so I was very satisfied with their service. I’d still prefer fiber just because of ping advantage.

    • @Cadapraa
      @Cadapraa 11 месяцев назад +1

      Bro ur not wrong

  • @QuantumBraced
    @QuantumBraced 4 года назад +3

    To me ping and packet loss are much more important than bandwidth. 100 mbps is honestly enough for anything, most servers won't even let you transfer 1 gigabit nor would it make a difference if they did. But 0% packet loss and a tiny ping make things feel so much faster and snappier... and that is why fiber is best.

  • @3brionac
    @3brionac 5 лет назад +24

    You can’t connect your night hawk to Fiber? Ugh gonna get it when I move cuz spectrum is garbage and I have a ac5300 x8 😩

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +4

      You can but it's hard to do without causing issues. There are work arounds but they are complex. Check out my gaming setup video to see how I have my equipment set up

    • @3brionac
      @3brionac 5 лет назад +1

      Glasscock thanks brotha, keep up the vids very informative 🙏🏼

    • @TheDebo7291986
      @TheDebo7291986 5 лет назад +1

      You have to put your router in DMZ mode on the fiber modem/router combo.

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +1

      @@TheDebo7291986 it's not a perfect work around but it works for most things

    • @flagrockerthegreat
      @flagrockerthegreat 5 лет назад

      You should look at century link there TRASH.

  • @TyLyfeGaming
    @TyLyfeGaming 5 лет назад +2

    Hey bro, great video, just a tip, put the gateway in Bridge mode (will make the gateway work as modem only) and keep your personal router in "router" mode, you should be fine....

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад

      There is no true bridge mode within at&t gateway. DMZ will still result in double nat. The only real way to get an actual bridged connection with at&t requires you to do a complex setup to trick at&t authentication while using your own router. I've looked into it but it's not worth my time. I'm actually very happy with how my network is currently set up

    • @TyLyfeGaming
      @TyLyfeGaming 5 лет назад

      wow thats shitty... I have xfinity (Comcast) myself, the gateway is pretty good... Thank you for the reply. Great info. I have a few friends with AT&T... this info will come in handy

    • @confidentflatulence4157
      @confidentflatulence4157 5 лет назад

      No, do it the other way around. At&t router in router mode, your extra router in bridge mode

  • @DeboBalBoa
    @DeboBalBoa 5 лет назад

    I recently just got my gigabit service and I'm loving it cause before I had DSL internet which was really a pain. Only running at 7 down and 1 up was a nightmare and now I got 1000 up and down it really made a big difference.

  • @freaky2xd
    @freaky2xd 5 лет назад +6

    I am one of 285.000 people living in my city who have pay an insane amount of money for 4G internet in order to get better speeds than crappy cable speeds, and trust me, it is really frustrating. For some reason even newer buildings like the one I live in which was built in 2009 there is no chance to get fiber internet. If you want faster internet than your DSL, VDSL line offers than your only option is 4G, if you're lucky you're one of the very few people who live in a part of town where there's LTE-Advanced, in addition to that, 4G speeds heavily depend on which floor you live in. I for example live in the middle floor which is basically the worst, I have to place my router right next to the window in order to get full 4G signal strenght even though according to my provider there's 4G+ all over the place I've only seen the router switch to that once and that was when I had it on my balcony. But hey 4G speeds aren't bad, you can get up to 150Mbit in theory, at least that's why I pay 45€ (50USD) per month. Can you guess how fast the internet really is (my PC is directly gonnected with the 1gigabit ethernet port of the router)? Exactly, I have never ever seen it reach 150mbit download per second. I sometimes test the speed when I'm bored and here's what I can report: During the day, I only get about 50 Mbit average. That's a third of what I'm paying for. The fastest I've ever seen it reach in the afternoon was when I used a MIMO 2X 4G Antenna basically line of sight to the next 4G station and I only reached 100Mbit, but after using it for several days I noticed that the average speed was about 80, basically half of what I'm paying for. Without the external antenna, using only the 4G routers internal antennas I once reached 65Mbit and that was because it was 4am where basically nobody uses 4G. You might ask yourself now: "dude why doesn't he talk to the provider about it?". No chance, the provider doesn't give a shit because somewhere in the contract they say that the speed you're paying for is the ideal speed and it can be different depending on your location. Yeah thanks, I live 400m from the next 4G sending station away. According to the contract the speed can drop down to something like 30Mbit, which is a fith of the speed I'm paying for and it would still be accaptable according to them. Somethign else I love about the 4G internet story in my country is that we're in the middle of europe, not at the edge of the world. Oh and they force us to buy a overpriced locked router when signing the contract, a contract which lasts for 24 months, with a 4G router which is decent, but you would save about 200 bucks if you had the chance to say no to a device. I would happily chose a better router instead of being forced to buying one. Well that's my internet story, can't wait for 5G, it will probably take ages until we get it, since I lost hope in the country providing fiber internet. For now I have 12 months left until I can get out of my 50 dollar 150mbit contract which only provides me with a third, maybe two fith if I'm lucky of the speed.

  • @cwg2432
    @cwg2432 5 лет назад +45

    I have like 15 devices connected at the same time and no lag with with att fiber

    • @dexterous2603
      @dexterous2603 5 лет назад

      what ping do u get?

    • @lafierasgamefarm258
      @lafierasgamefarm258 3 года назад +1

      Where you from cause it’s different in diffretn areas

    • @cwg2432
      @cwg2432 3 года назад +3

      @@lafierasgamefarm258 Miami area, we were one of the first ones to get it in our neighborhood, they had actual salesman going door to door and gave us a pretty sweet deal at the time. I don’t remember the details but, it include two tv, and 100 Mbps all for a 100 dollars a months, but like always the promotion ended after year, now we only have one tv and the internet, however, like 3 months out of nowhere they upgraded us to gigabit at no cost at all no price increase

    • @CleeTaurus
      @CleeTaurus 3 года назад

      I'm in Arkansas and jusy got wave out here and it's just like this. I can play warzone while my wife downloads files for work and I have no problem at all.

  • @P_H_O_N_K_R_A_D_I_O
    @P_H_O_N_K_R_A_D_I_O 11 месяцев назад

    As someone whos on cable someone with this connection would definitely put me at a disadvantage A VERY BIG ONE so it does help u also have to take in the consideration of consistency like how often bullets reg i assure u fiber does a better job than even com cast id assume because the technology thats being used is very advanced but u have to also take in to consideration how good ur isp is most fiber companies tho are really good

  • @عقيدالفيفا
    @عقيدالفيفا 5 лет назад +1

    In Istanbul Turkey I pay $15 for 24.5 download/4.5 upload and ping is 0-3 and also have private IP address. But still suffering :(

  • @lee86chevyk10
    @lee86chevyk10 5 лет назад +8

    I live in a rural area, surprisingly enough there is a buissness about a half mile down the road that (I beleive) has fiber internet, right now im using a hotspot through Verizon to play xbox, I'm lucky to see 7mbps download on a good day.
    My question to you, would it be worth me paying to have the provider run the fiber to me .5 miles down the road? I have no idea what this would cost but living with basically no internet has killed me. I beleive they could tie into the fiber leading to this buissness?
    Also, is the speed of fiber that high, as mentioned in the video, no matter the location? Basically if I spend all the money I think i'm going to spend getting the internet here, will the speed be good for gaming still?
    Kinda my last option besides moving... and I love where I live.
    Thank you!

    • @PneumaticFrog
      @PneumaticFrog 5 лет назад +2

      yes, it is completely worth it.

    • @PneumaticFrog
      @PneumaticFrog 5 лет назад +1

      the speed will be good for anything.

    • @lee86chevyk10
      @lee86chevyk10 5 лет назад

      Upon further research they don't have fiber :/
      My only option is a point to point wireless system.... I hope they are the solution

    • @MG-yu6do
      @MG-yu6do 5 лет назад

      Is Verizon the only mobile provider with coverage at your location?
      I recommend T-Mobile (if it’s available).

    • @lee86chevyk10
      @lee86chevyk10 5 лет назад

      @@MG-yu6do T-Mobile and sprint are dead zoned in my area

  • @tahianarn6785
    @tahianarn6785 5 лет назад +99

    give me just 40 MBPS download and 8 MBPS upload speed man,please !....and a lower ping at 70

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +42

      The world deserves faster internet

    • @cruztoribio4109
      @cruztoribio4109 5 лет назад

      Fr

    • @toddfoor571
      @toddfoor571 5 лет назад +4

      Lmao just give me 2 mbps down and 5 mbps upload

    • @questioningeverything4200
      @questioningeverything4200 5 лет назад

      tahiana RN I’m at 80 and I hate it I want fiber

    • @epixwheelz5515
      @epixwheelz5515 5 лет назад +2

      @@toddfoor571 you dont want 2Mbps my dude. I have 5Mbps and im just dying waiting for bell to extend the fibe line to my house from down my stree

  • @sawyerbass4661
    @sawyerbass4661 3 года назад +1

    I live in a mountain town and am straight up convinced that the path up the canyon is badly made, because pinging Denver which is about 40 miles is 22-25ms. I imagine there's some packet loss that adds to the issues as it goes beyond that too.
    I hope that living in Longmont with fiber internet will cut ping by roughly 30ms for most servers. Or I guess if I had gigabit fiber I could run a server if I was willing to pay $10 a month in electricity.

  • @R2D2arthurge
    @R2D2arthurge 4 года назад +1

    I have 3 smart tv , 4 alexas, 2 consoles , 2 laptops , 2 phones , 4 iPads , 10 Arlo cameras . 80% of this is mostly connected to the internet and working. So yes fiber is essential and extremely easy to install , even if you have an apartment, easy to patch the hole later it’s really tiny , in my case I don’t need to make holes . Anyways . Fully worth depending on your needs

  • @CA.papaBear
    @CA.papaBear 5 лет назад +7

    Are you still paying $80/mo. or did the price increase for you? I was just curious that's all.
    Also, is it a contract that you have to pay for a high-bandwidth connection and is there a data limit with said connection?

    • @vujcichh
      @vujcichh 5 лет назад

      Yes. He answered that in a vid

    • @juddlebot2146
      @juddlebot2146 5 лет назад

      80 pretty good price for 1000 mg

    • @juddlebot2146
      @juddlebot2146 5 лет назад

      @Hero yes satellite internet cost a lot usually for people that live in small town usually get that because that's best option for them.

    • @juddlebot2146
      @juddlebot2146 5 лет назад

      I would not recommend if you live in a city there better options

    • @juddlebot2146
      @juddlebot2146 5 лет назад

      @Hero well yeah that's what I meant haha that sucks tho LoL

  • @Yasashina
    @Yasashina 5 лет назад +375

    Your channel is all about your internet😂😂😂

  • @MRSketch09
    @MRSketch09 4 года назад

    Thanks for doing the video. Interesting.

  • @ill4570
    @ill4570 3 года назад

    Going from my device getting 24 Mbps with 10 upload on a 50 mbps and 5 upload plan with coninous lag spikes from 60-1000 ping when I used to play tourneys or normal gaming, I’m doing more assignment uploading and downloading now a days and it takes for ever... so my family is now going to 600mbps at xfinity and I’m excited I picked out the modem and router for us.

  • @NATO_9870
    @NATO_9870 5 лет назад +63

    I want that last name Glasscock

  • @halfounce
    @halfounce 5 лет назад +3

    i'd say 1000 mbps would be good for gaming if you live far away from the nearest server region for example if Europe was the closest server to you but it was still far away then 1000mbps would be benofficial

    • @hariranormal5584
      @hariranormal5584 3 года назад

      How....? Speed doesn't make your ping better.

  • @xtRag3dYx
    @xtRag3dYx 5 лет назад

    They finally have att fiber optic in my area, well who know's when they finally had it available, i check every year and well my xfinity was acting up so I checked and now getting 1000mbps on friday :D

  • @Montauk198
    @Montauk198 5 лет назад

    The att gateway is their modem. You can turn off all of the wifi and router functions making it solely a modem. After that connect your own router and other networking equipment.

  • @designer.346
    @designer.346 5 лет назад +13

    I have DSL 3mbps dowload and 0.50Mbps upload, lower ping for games its 120

    • @grizz9330
      @grizz9330 5 лет назад

      I have Frontier, and the EXACT same speeds

    • @designer.346
      @designer.346 5 лет назад

      @@grizz9330omg, in my area doesn't has fiber, :/

    • @grizz9330
      @grizz9330 5 лет назад

      @@designer.346 me neither

    • @Nikkolaade
      @Nikkolaade 5 лет назад

      I think fiber is only in never houses

    • @Nikkolaade
      @Nikkolaade 5 лет назад

      Because it comes from the wall

  • @althea4517
    @althea4517 5 лет назад +9

    now me struggling in 5 mbps

  • @deztro8182
    @deztro8182 3 года назад

    So Excited! Mines getting installed this Month! let's goooooo!!!

  • @drdyzen4050
    @drdyzen4050 5 лет назад

    Have u ever had ip change automatically once per day? (Reseting)
    It makes it hard for streaming because of the disconnect.

  • @Rxmirez_
    @Rxmirez_ 5 лет назад +5

    So should a 40mbps package with fiber be good ?

  • @reddyup9713
    @reddyup9713 5 лет назад +7

    The best results i got was 12ping 1mbps 0.87 upload

    • @JamesAutoDude
      @JamesAutoDude 5 лет назад

      Sounds like DSL or satallite lol. You'd benefit from cable internet in that scenario, if available

  • @31446963048
    @31446963048 5 лет назад

    At least you have att fiber. I have the ATT 18 plan. Best they can do in our area til they replace everything. And I'm in the heart of St. Louis.

  • @toiletdunk4655
    @toiletdunk4655 5 лет назад

    The biggest advantage to fiber in gaming is the ping. It will be slightly less compared to other circuits

  • @dasock9283
    @dasock9283 5 лет назад +4

    How do you even get the fiber optic cable run up on your street. We have a really crappy one. I have 7mps download and 0,67mps upload. Idk how can I get it?

    • @dankie3612
      @dankie3612 5 лет назад

      Go on the fiber website and enter your house address and it will tell you when they will install fiber on your street

    • @dankie3612
      @dankie3612 5 лет назад

      For me I have to wait till June for them to come to my street and start installing fiber

    • @juaneduardovitoria
      @juaneduardovitoria 5 лет назад

      omg in my country fiber is everywhere (but the village i live in summer fuck isps)

  • @crybaby703
    @crybaby703 4 года назад +1

    What is your ISP? I have Spectrum 400mbps but it’s cable so my ping is 20-30. I would like to switch to a better ISP that can give me under 10 ping (fiber) .

  • @jiojoe8829
    @jiojoe8829 5 лет назад +2

    Can't you put that ISP ONT/Router in bridge mode and use your own router?

  • @kierxn248
    @kierxn248 5 лет назад +6

    Well that’s an unfortunate name 😂

  • @Kawoaa
    @Kawoaa 5 лет назад +9

    PING is what your looking for, not more bandwidth

    • @kylastoutlaw8715
      @kylastoutlaw8715 5 лет назад +2

      Kawoaa when you get about 3mbps down sure tell yourself that kid . Takes about 8 days to download a game another 6 days just download all the updates . I get 30ping at this point I could give two shits about ping give me the fastest bandwidth possible so I can download single player games and programs

    • @kylastoutlaw8715
      @kylastoutlaw8715 5 лет назад

      YourMomDotCom19 try sharing 3mbps with 3 people my ping is 30ping which is amazing for gaming but once they get on the internet there goes the bandwidth 30 ping will shoot up to 100-1000ping . What I need is faster download speed so I can share the bandwidth

  • @machavez00
    @machavez00 5 лет назад

    With CenturyLink in Phoenix, you can using any wifi router the that can VLAN tag the WAN port, has PPoE, AND has the hardware to handle it. I came from a 20Mbs/896Kbs ADSL2 connection.

  • @RodovalPTY
    @RodovalPTY 2 года назад

    The happiest day of my life was when my son was born, the 2nd happiest day will be when the fiber company knocks my apt to install. Hopefully in the upcoming months. Even that i've switched internet companies (both coaxial) from time to time i have packet loss, latency issues, internet drops, i have to at least once a week disconnect, and connect the power of the modem etc etc.

  • @lukeLT1ss
    @lukeLT1ss 5 лет назад +4

    i have the 1Gb for $65 a month

    • @HeroOfTime303
      @HeroOfTime303 5 лет назад

      what provider do you have? verizon? xfinity?

  • @josephshamon7824
    @josephshamon7824 5 лет назад +3

    For around 19 thousand crowns Jesus Christ I mean it’s not that much when I live in a 3.5 million crown mansion but I don’t know if I should change

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад

      It depends on if it's going to benefit you

    • @josephshamon7824
      @josephshamon7824 5 лет назад

      I got a 100 mbs internet and I’m still on 30-40 ping and if the family is home it lags a lot and I bought a apple extreme it goes up to 300 mbs but

    • @josephshamon7824
      @josephshamon7824 5 лет назад

      Not here upstairs where I game it’s still the Same

    • @thegaminghobo4693
      @thegaminghobo4693 5 лет назад +1

      Wtf are crowns?

    • @josephshamon7824
      @josephshamon7824 5 лет назад

      TheGaming Hobo it’s a currency we have in Sweden

  • @christiansegovia3918
    @christiansegovia3918 4 года назад

    If you used a different router would you get the same speeds as the gate way and if not which one is greater?

  • @NYCrazyRob
    @NYCrazyRob 2 года назад

    The gateway that's needed - do they charge you an additional rental fee each month for it? Or is it included with the $80 per month?
    If they do charge extra, how much is it?

  • @beedslolkuntus2070
    @beedslolkuntus2070 5 лет назад +3

    I got 4000Mbps in my server
    Not bad but could be better

  • @PT-yn8fe
    @PT-yn8fe 5 лет назад +5

    0.2 mbps gang where you at?

  • @JamesAutoDude
    @JamesAutoDude 5 лет назад

    You can change that gateway into passthrough mode where it'll allow you to plug in your own router and use your own router instead... Not too hard to do either

  • @fnnpc746
    @fnnpc746 5 лет назад +1

    Pretty good video love ur channel m8. I got fiber internet myself 100/100 mbit but i don't need a gateway because i just got a switch in my room which converts the signal and then you can use your own equipment. There is one wan port for internet, phone and tv but i just use the internet service. Then im in an open fiber network where you can switch isp depending which you like the most so you arent't locked to just one big isp. I live in Sweden btw on the countryside and pay only 35 euros for 100/100 mbit and free vpn. Very satisfied i get about 20 ms ping in most games. And i got the d link exo 2600 gaming router which is pretty good too! Keep up the good work!

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад

      That is how all fiber connections should be it's a shame ISPs want to lock everyone down on gateway connections

  • @kneehighspy
    @kneehighspy 5 лет назад +6

    got att fiber, 1gb up & 1gb down @ $70 a month.

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +2

      Very nice

    • @pow_ext
      @pow_ext 5 лет назад +1

      quite expensive

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +5

      @@pow_ext for the USA that is not expensive at all. 3 years ago I was paying $125 per month with Xfinity for 105mbps download

    • @pow_ext
      @pow_ext 5 лет назад

      yeah i was comparing the price internationally, here in Italy the cheapest plan costs 20 euros per month

    • @kneehighspy
      @kneehighspy 5 лет назад +2

      i know some people still $60 a month for 6mb up/down so i will gladly pay $70 a month for 1gb up/down and fiber too. here i. the US we have some of the poorest choices for broadband, especially depending on where you live. i live out in a county / rural area and consider myself lucky for my broadband options cause just about 5 miles down the road your options are very limited.

  • @rz1sa
    @rz1sa 5 лет назад +3

    He be having 0ping while I'm using Plusnet..
    Just joking I don't use Plusnet
    I use Lycamobile

  • @DimitrisDr3am
    @DimitrisDr3am 4 года назад

    you can probably make that gateway thing just pass the internet signal through to your other router. it would be in the settings somewhere.. No idea what it is called but I did it years ago on a cable modem/router

  • @Ultrakicks
    @Ultrakicks 5 лет назад

    Here in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I pay $75 per month for 1 Gig up/down. We do not need a gateway either.

  • @TeufelHund
    @TeufelHund 5 лет назад +8

    Speed has nothing to do with online gaming❗ Latency / ping count in online gaming❗

    • @thegoldenchild4657
      @thegoldenchild4657 5 лет назад

      People are dumb and don't listen

    • @Pixelon_
      @Pixelon_ 5 лет назад +6

      Well you're right and you're wrong. Latency is the most important thing in gaming but if you have really weak Upload/Download, and other people are connected to Wi-Fi using the bandwidth(watching Netflix/RUclips) then that will ultimately affect your ping... making it spike very high.
      Conclusion. Low download/upload = high ping when others are using bandwidth, but higher upload/download won't necessarily increase your ping, just make it more stable when others are using internet cos more bandwidth.

    • @aaronmotta7028
      @aaronmotta7028 5 лет назад

      your ping is partially based on how fast your internet can upload information to the gaming server.... so yes, it has a lot to do with gaming.

    • @neilgaming2127
      @neilgaming2127 4 года назад

      Do i really need 1gps for gaming?? I see many fortnite pro streamer complain about their ping. And alots of them says 0 ping makes its easier to build wall faster?? Does higher ping means better gaming??

  • @timewalker9076
    @timewalker9076 5 лет назад +4

    Is that available in India?

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +5

      I don't know if india has fiber internet. I dont live in india

    • @sparda1418
      @sparda1418 5 лет назад

      TIME WALKER Yes, it’s available. 100mb both download and upload

    • @1026Amit
      @1026Amit 5 лет назад

      @@JohnGlasscock jio Giga fiber is there

  • @rarenathan
    @rarenathan 5 лет назад +1

    Comcast gigabit let me use existing equipment which was awesome

  • @codygregg1629
    @codygregg1629 4 года назад +2

    Interesting, i had ATT Fiber installed Dec 2019. My ONT is installed inside of the house. We have that black gateway as well but the tech that installed the service patched my router into the gateway. So i still get to use my router. You may be able to use your router now.

    • @Floof_Factory
      @Floof_Factory 4 года назад +1

      But you are still using the gateway right? Don't you have to set up your router so that it connects to the gateway? How did the installer do it?

    • @codygregg1629
      @codygregg1629 4 года назад

      Grand Master Mawile yeah I’m still using the gateway. He just patched my router into one of the ports 1-4 on the gateway. The router grabbed a DHCP address and just worked from there.

  • @3brionac
    @3brionac 5 лет назад +11

    Is AT&T 1000/1000?

  • @TheCreeperGameplays20
    @TheCreeperGameplays20 5 лет назад +3

    Watching this video at 144p and laging

  • @matt697845
    @matt697845 4 года назад

    You can use your own router. Tell them you want to swap out to the Arris BGW210 gateway. It has an IP passthru feature, which can be set to the MAC of your own routers WAN port. If your routers LAN IP is 192.168.1.1 you will need to change it to 192.168.2.1 to avoid conflicts. Disable the 2.4g and 5g WiFi radios on the BGW. From there your routers WAN port will get handed your Internet IP address and it works just like the Ethernet port on a cable modem, UPnP, incoming traffic, etc all work just like the ATT gateway device isn't even there.

  • @Parker_Perry
    @Parker_Perry 5 лет назад

    I should have watched this beforehand. As you said you get 100-300 when downloading games. I wish you would say this during the videos that you create because its still kinda misleading but im glad you're heavily informed on networking. Why do you think that is though even with a wired connection? I get that through the 5 ghz you're going to get around 300-400 because of the limitations of that band and being a wireless signal. I am a Junior in college studying computer engineering so Im pretty informed on networking. I have gigabit internet in Dallas but I just honestly dont get why they even really offer it if the majority of devices cannot handle those speeds like the ps4 and xbox one. They can handle near gigabit speeds on speed tests but applying it to anything you get no where near the actual speed... When downloading games I find both consoles are limited to around 300 mbps. Idk if its because they dont have a gigabit ethernet port on the back or not but its super frustrating having that good of internet and still having to wait forever for massive games to download

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +1

      Just saw your comment. Thanks for your thoughts. The reason you will usually only see 3-400mbps when downloading from psn and xbox is for several reasons. #1 is the distance between you and the server. The more hops and routes between you and the server you're downloading from, the more diluted the actual throughput becomes. You seem like you will understand what I mean without any further explanation #2 is that the consoles are not designed to write to the HDD at 1000mbps. The internet is overkill for what the console itself can actually handle. There are other factors as well but those are the two biggest

  • @MoneyIVI
    @MoneyIVI 5 лет назад +1

    Ok, I am from Iowa and currently have a 3mb dsl connection. It’s the most we can get through dsl. We are planning to get cables to our house and get the 60mb plan. Anything better than 70 ping and 3mb/s I would love. Can someone inform me about the ping and problems with mediacom at the moment? I was getting really exited but then saw lots of reviews about how mediacom is shit. Can someone fill me in because I’m getting mixed inputs about mediacom.

  • @juaneduardovitoria
    @juaneduardovitoria 5 лет назад

    In Spain only one or two ISPs use cable and the rest of them use fiber, even for 30 Mbps. I love my fiber 300 Mbps internet because the latency doesn't exist (or almost) and the speeds are symetrical (same for download and upload).

  • @MikeG4936
    @MikeG4936 5 лет назад

    Frontier and Verizon FiOS don't require the use of their gateway. Of course, they won't support you if you use your own equipment, but it will work perfectly well if you plug your own router into their ONT.

  • @adammallet9417
    @adammallet9417 5 лет назад

    If you’re not a fan of the gate way, log into the IP and put it in bridge mode so you can use your own modem.

  • @randompersonontheinternet4489
    @randompersonontheinternet4489 4 года назад +1

    Yea I’m definitely switching to fiber internet tmr. My current ISP is optimum and they had a “network outage” in my area for 8 days now, and counting (I’m using data to type dis)... Like bruh the service is so unreliable, and how long does it take for a big company like optimum to fix a network outage for their customers?!?! Don’t they wanna keep their customers? This action from them just made them lose a customer.

  • @confidentflatulence4157
    @confidentflatulence4157 5 лет назад

    They use a gateway because it's a one-size-fits-all type of thing. We used to set it up with just the modem and the cost of the router would be on the customer, but they simplified it. You can set up a secondary router, just set your extra router up as a bridge and not a master. Custom settings can be input into the router(at&t) via 192.168.1.254 which is on the side of the gateway. ~ AT&T technician

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад

      Yeah I've looked into it and tried it, wasn't a fan. DMZ Plus is not a true bridge mode. I had IPV6 and speed issues while using it. It will work perfect for most people but it wasn't for me. I hope someday At&t atleast offers an ONT that doesnt require a gateway with special authentication. Even if it meant paying more per month I'd be glad

  • @Agoge_Yeasty
    @Agoge_Yeasty 3 года назад

    Hopefully I’m getting fiber soon.

  • @theurinal
    @theurinal 2 года назад

    It would make a huge difference if you played games that require precise inputs like fighting games.

  • @magma6072
    @magma6072 3 года назад

    Are you referencing fiber internet to ziply fiber? Because I get very bad lag spikes in every game to the point where I can't move and can't do anything. I don't know if it's just me

  • @alwaysonmygrind7139
    @alwaysonmygrind7139 5 лет назад

    What provider do you use, and how much did you pay to get it setup?
    I’m in Houston too so you got a new sub

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад +1

      I mentioned it all in the video its at&t

  • @miguelvasquez8461
    @miguelvasquez8461 5 лет назад

    Whatt you’re in Texas !?!? I’m in Houston lol yeah att is amazing. I love it. I just moved to a new apartment and had to get xfinity. I’m in a 1000mpbs plan with Blast speed. Idk how I feel about it. My ping is 45-55. Latency is about 48.

    • @JohnGlasscock
      @JohnGlasscock  5 лет назад

      I had comcast for years with no problems. Been in houston for over 10 years

  • @sleepyangelyt4421
    @sleepyangelyt4421 2 месяца назад

    Im 5 years late but everyone i just want u to all know the internet john is on is not a residential connection its a dia connection this means basically that its direct internet access and its dedicated this is why he can run around and gun down other players with little to no lag something people dont understand is that when your on a residential connection your connection is shared between u and ur neighborhood this means that the reliability rate is about 10% main while john on a dedicated business connection has about 100% reliability i just want to point this out as it was never talked about in the video alot of RUclipsrs are using this knowledge to gain a advantage on other players in games and it should be talked about thanks for your time fellow gamers and stay safe and aware out there

    • @sleepyangelyt4421
      @sleepyangelyt4421 2 месяца назад +1

      Now just to understand the gratitude of this incase people dont know what i mean when i say reliability rate it means how often u get hit markers when u shoot a enemy target theres three ways u can test your internet to see if its a shared connection number1: if you do a speed test and you see u have a bunch of random jitter u cant explain like you tried reducing your upload and so on. But the upload or download jitter is extremely high then this means your on a shared residential connection/number2: another way u can tell if your on shared residential connection is if you play any game and notice u have horrible hit reg issues and terrible desync from the server like its impossible to play the game even with a low ping/ and finally number3 your download speeds and upload speeds you never get the full amount your paying for and your download speeds randomly plummet at certain times of the day all of these are vaild reason and just know you dont suck at games people like john are just cheating you im not mad at John im not everything he says in his videos are mostly true but this is the only thing him and most youtubers arent honest about and it needs to be brought to light we love u john but u gotta start being honest about this connection stuff ok seriously ur hurting peoples lives not giving them this valuable information ive had friends commit suicide being bullied so bad because their connection wouldnt let them play at their full potential and they didnt know that it was because they were on a shared connection ive had friends who wanted to become pro league but youtubers are too afraid to give up their spot as number one so they keep this knowledge from people another thing and i guess u could say this is number 4 i forgot to mention this but if you cant foward ports thats another sign the thing about a residential connection is everyone behind a cg nat a cg nat is a bigger router thats over your router and everyone elses that u all connect to and as john has mentioned in his other videos buffer bloat is a serious problem so what do you think would happen when you have the whole neighborhood on one router