We do this a lot in the 'States using redi-mixed joint filler. It seems to go on about the same way and requires a little sanding. It's good if you have a moderately messed-up wall, and don't want to get into traditional plastering.
Do you have plasterers in the US? From how it appears online it seems to be a totally different culture where you guys have drywallers rather than plasterers and it seems to me those guys just use plasterboard adhesive/mud or something similar kind of like UK plasterers would use plaster? Have I got the right idea?
My dad told me to check your video out as I have a hallway and landing that needs a little attention. Its got a really poor latex paint finish on which I tried to sand off but it just gums up the pads, the alternative seems to be heat gun which is a lot of work. Do you reckon I can use this to go over the current paint to smooth it off (it isnt flaking anywhere) without having to remove it all and then paint straight on top of this? really trying to save some time and money here and this does look great, just seems it needs to go onto the wall directly and not onto a painted surface. (excellent video btw).
I’ve strip a wall and the paper took the paint off I’ve sanded and gardz I’m going to use filler would this be good to use and over the gardz I’ve put on Thanks
This might solve all my problems! Can you use this over walls that have emulsion paint, but walls really in need of a skim ....sanded down in preparation etc?
Ive had the problem with with some of my walls wanting to peel after applying before smoothing product onto wall. Is the peel old wallpaper, or is it how the wall would have been treated for plaster? I have no idea how many types of treatments my walls have had...
Think id rather come back after a pro plasterer has been in.this looks like an unecessary faff for a decorator and how much is one 12 litre tub and once opened is there a use by clock ticking ?
Nice, i like it, is the box a standard thing ? Does the big scraper come with it or have you bought it separately? Could you emulsion straight on top ie is it flat enough ? Cheers
Not sure, I think I got the promo pack with a mug and a biscuit lol You need to get your own smoothers. As said in the video, you can use any brand. You can paint on it like normal once you sand it down
Put it this way for my average sized ceiling in my living room to get plastered it will cost me £300, I had another plaster quote of £700 for the same job.
@@fireburn045but you’ll see the difference, a £30 tub that anyone can use or a time served plasterer is no comparison, depends on the finish you want. And you’d have to put so much on to cover artex !
Phil any pin holes/bubbles as its drying? I get those with Knauf, its the only thing putting me off from using this system again as they are very hard to fill in or smooth out over and over again while drying.
no, no bubbles/holes. If you don't put enough on to smooth out you may find areas that look missed/dragged. But you learn to put enough on if its doing that
Ive been wantingbto skimming coat all of my walls. I live in a home built in 1905. So you can imagine... not too many cracks in walls or ceiling. Surprisingly. Just not very smooth. If like to see a smooth level area. Ive done a few walls. They don't look too bad considering 🎶 I'm just a girl 😊
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator really? Isn't that obvious? If your skimming a masonary wall with multi-finish you always pva or most plasterers use SBR now! It's because dry porous walls suck the water out of the plaster and prevents it sticking its also referred to "sizing a wall"
@@mattschannel1502 as long as the wall is clean and dry.. all good to go. Have a look at the website... www.dalapro.com/product/roller-fillers/dalapro-roll-nova#descriptions
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator so it's ultimately a DIY product! What about corners ? And reveals im just wandering if realistically iit could replace multi finish
@@mattschannel1502 dry by next day... Ready to paint. Multi finish... A few days.. = loss of time and money. This will fix bad walls ready for a better surface to work on. Multi finish.... Often that's what needs fixing.
Easier and quicker to just skim the wall the traditional way plastering a wall is easy to learn throw it on give it a speed skim ..quick flatten throw on a second coat ..speed skim ..flatten .polish job done
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Your video was about easy plaster walls not about drying times ready to paint stop trying to change the narrative of the video to suit your needs instead of being honest . Want a wall that's perfectly flat and smooth without spending hours of flaf plaster it the traditional way plastering is easy to learn and does a far better job than the rubbish your trying to push
@@ofpcarnageful I think if you asked any decorator whaat they think to a plasterer plastering a wall to the standard thats needed for decorating over, they all would say its not flat and smooth, Hence why so many decorators are red oing wall with this type of stuff, which they can apply, sand and paint all within 24hrs, knowing its so much smoother. Everyone one sayd they have a good plasterer... it's not till that first coat of paint goe son that you see what it's actually like.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator no way you can sort a wall out as well as a decent plasterer with that gear, shouldn't have to sand a proper skimmed wall and if it's a diy job they won't have extraction equipment etc so you must be on commission or a mug 😂😂😂😂
Interesting Phil, cheers. That sort of wall, traditionally we would have made good and lined it. Would you say this new product is better than lining paper? Looks like a great finish. Probably quicker too?
Oh I still lined it.. I used Albany Reinforced Lining paper... it's made for such a better wall than leaving it all Umpy Dorri.. If you didn't line it, I'd say two applications I'd of got it a lot flatter. But with the house being 150yrs old.... the customer likes the character of not having falt walls.
i'd say use your common sense if you need to put a sealer on. As the surface needs to be dry and 'sound' before you apply it, or all you'll do is pick up loose brittle parts of the wall you are trying to improve on.
No its completely different to easyfill its totally different product you can't smooth out easyfill like that with such ease its more closer to tape and joint compound
I used Gardz on it as I was Lining over it. if emulsion, I'd of just eased it slightly and treated it like a new bare surface.. it is ready to paint though.
He did skim it. If you are refering to traditional plaster, no way it's faster. Mixing up dust and dirt, carrying bags and buckets and water ... and how long before you can paint 😊? This you paint next day, no sanding dust since you would be sanding with dust extractor. Actually easy sanding is what makes it attractive to decorators, they don't have to worry and lose time on perfect troweling. However, traditional plaster is more durable. This isn't a plastering product, smoothing a wall after wall paper removal, just another prep step before paint that is all.
Can’t see how you’ll get the depth of plastering to cover low and high points you might as-well use toupret skim and fill be cheaper Like to see if you can go over a few times to see if you don’t just pull it off
Are you trying to FLEECE would be Customers in saying BUY THESE TUBS, when All they have to do is Buy a few Scrapers of different sizes knowing full well a sander can make it look so smooth ?
lol, I think I'd of then waited 4 days for it to be dry enough to wash coat, re fill where you've missed areas, sanded and re wash coated before getting my emulsion on. lol
Nice video and demo thanks Phil. If you were painting what would you put on it first? Bullseye? Knauf do one called proroll you can get in Wickes for £30 a tub looks Identical stuff.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator sorry spell checker put a t in uneaven I have a wall that has what I would describe pits in It who ever did it put the battons in uneaven it needs serious leveling I am not a plasterer but can do a decent job would look at using the ready made on a untidy wall if that makes sense
Haha you make me laugh been plastering for over 10 years and I still don’t say I’m a real plasterer because it takes a life time to get experience not a 10 minute RUclips video.
lol, dead easy plastering now, roll it on, get it as smooth as you can, sand it even smoother the next day.. get ot painted. :) sorted.. any clown can do it now :)
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator😂😂😂😂 he says to always check a message for typos.😂😂😂 what a plum. Great video, I got tonnes of value from this. Cheers pal and I wish you all the success❤
A up! We are pro Plasterers now us deccys we can do it all nice one Phil.
So many plasterers on here yet i can't get one to turn up. So this is my only option . So cheers mate. 🍻
Glad to help. It's easy to do :D
So true, I'll be buying this because I can't get any in
Thanks
I have been using recently. It's a good stuff and it's very easy to sand it dowm as well.
So we're can I order it/ buy it?
We do this a lot in the 'States using redi-mixed joint filler. It seems to go on about the same way and requires a little sanding. It's good if you have a moderately messed-up wall, and don't want to get into traditional plastering.
Do you have plasterers in the US? From how it appears online it seems to be a totally different culture where you guys have drywallers rather than plasterers and it seems to me those guys just use plasterboard adhesive/mud or something similar kind of like UK plasterers would use plaster? Have I got the right idea?
My dad told me to check your video out as I have a hallway and landing that needs a little attention. Its got a really poor latex paint finish on which I tried to sand off but it just gums up the pads, the alternative seems to be heat gun which is a lot of work. Do you reckon I can use this to go over the current paint to smooth it off (it isnt flaking anywhere) without having to remove it all and then paint straight on top of this? really trying to save some time and money here and this does look great, just seems it needs to go onto the wall directly and not onto a painted surface. (excellent video btw).
I’ve strip a wall and the paper took the paint off I’ve sanded and gardz I’m going to use filler would this be good to use and over the gardz I’ve put on
Thanks
Nice box you get with it Phil, looks a decent product.
it is Steve, once sanded and smooth its nice you can see it being Grey.. you know you've actually done something lol
@8:00 never seen this two handed roller method before!
lol watch and learn.......... not to make it to heavy to hold with weak wrists lol
Great video Phil, well worth a try. 👍
Thanks 👍
This might solve all my problems!
Can you use this over walls that have emulsion paint, but walls really in need of a skim ....sanded down in preparation etc?
yep, like on the video?
Hi Phil I would imagine one applying one laying off between the two of you ,get a lot done 👍🏻deffo be giving that a go
yes, but it's easy for one to do as well... you can do this!! ;)
Very cool,
Great video Phil i might try this product
You should. :)
Ive had the problem with with some of my walls wanting to peel after applying before smoothing product onto wall.
Is the peel old wallpaper, or is it how the wall would have been treated for plaster?
I have no idea how many types of treatments my walls have had...
What have you gone over?
Think id rather come back after a pro plasterer has been in.this looks like an unecessary faff for a decorator and how much is one 12 litre tub and once opened is there a use by clock ticking ?
About £25 a tub. And dry dry to light sand and paint next day.
Does is sand down as fine as Toupret?
it sands down well as you can then leave it and paint over
Nice, i like it, is the box a standard thing ? Does the big scraper come with it or have you bought it separately? Could you emulsion straight on top ie is it flat enough ? Cheers
Not sure, I think I got the promo pack with a mug and a biscuit lol
You need to get your own smoothers.
As said in the video, you can use any brand.
You can paint on it like normal once you sand it down
Great video.
Thanks for the visit ☺️
36inch that is a big one ☝️
Each to their own, looks a faf to me
I have stripped all wallpaper and been left with patchy old paint on the surface. Would this stuff be ok to use straight over that?
if it's peeling paint, remove the loose, then go over with peelstop first.
Can you use this on plasterboard aswell?
yes
How does this compare to Prestonett Multi Light roll on plaster? Thoughts? Better?
the same really, just different colours
Do you have to buy a new roller cover after or can you clean them?
I just wash the roller out
You reckon you can apply straight to wood chip?
yep, finigers crossed the woodchip is on well.
If I had a corner would I need to use the metal beed as well Phil usin the product
If it's a good corner I wouldn't bother.
If it's bad and you're building it back up look at using a plastic corner edge
What’s the plastic edge thing called so I can look it up many thanks
@@shanenewton7061 look for plastic corner bead
@shanenewton7061 you can use paper bead, with metal strip in it, much better than plastic.
Also, paper for cracks instead of fiber mesh
How much to do a wall like that though? Really like the idea of it just dunno whether it’s worth it financially
That wall... Half a tub... So 6kg.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator He's meaning as to HOW MUCH COST ?
Put it this way for my average sized ceiling in my living room to get plastered it will cost me £300, I had another plaster quote of £700 for the same job.
@@fireburn045but you’ll see the difference, a £30 tub that anyone can use or a time served plasterer is no comparison, depends on the finish you want. And you’d have to put so much on to cover artex !
@tonyjamesr116 Oh very much so, it depends on what the person wants within their budget.
Can you use it to cover artex?
its ideal for that
Cheers.
Do you need to apply artex adhesive to the artex before you apply this? Also how many layers would it take on artex? Cheers
@@JaswantSingh-dx9ef depends how deep it is and how much you apply at a time.
I'm not aware you need to apply the artex sealer first.
Phil any pin holes/bubbles as its drying?
I get those with Knauf, its the only thing putting me off from using this system again as they are very hard to fill in or smooth out over and over again while drying.
no, no bubbles/holes. If you don't put enough on to smooth out you may find areas that look missed/dragged. But you learn to put enough on if its doing that
I find the toupret skim and fill leaves pin holes too. Probably too much air injected when they mix in the factory.
Ive been wantingbto skimming coat all of my walls. I live in a home built in 1905. So you can imagine... not too many cracks in walls or ceiling. Surprisingly. Just not very smooth. If like to see a smooth level area. Ive done a few walls. They don't look too bad considering 🎶 I'm just a girl 😊
This has to be the future of plastering! How does it work if u need to pva the walls ect does it still go on as easy?
Why would you PVA the wall?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator really? Isn't that obvious? If your skimming a masonary wall with multi-finish you always pva or most plasterers use SBR now! It's because dry porous walls suck the water out of the plaster and prevents it sticking its also referred to "sizing a wall"
@@mattschannel1502 as long as the wall is clean and dry.. all good to go. Have a look at the website...
www.dalapro.com/product/roller-fillers/dalapro-roll-nova#descriptions
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator so it's ultimately a DIY product! What about corners ? And reveals im just wandering if realistically iit could replace multi finish
@@mattschannel1502 dry by next day... Ready to paint.
Multi finish... A few days.. = loss of time and money.
This will fix bad walls ready for a better surface to work on.
Multi finish.... Often that's what needs fixing.
Easier and quicker to just skim the wall the traditional way plastering a wall is easy to learn throw it on give it a speed skim ..quick flatten throw on a second coat ..speed skim ..flatten .polish job done
how long to dry before painting?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Your video was about easy plaster walls not about drying times ready to paint stop trying to change the narrative of the video to suit your needs instead of being honest . Want a wall that's perfectly flat and smooth without spending hours of flaf plaster it the traditional way plastering is easy to learn and does a far better job than the rubbish your trying to push
@@ofpcarnageful I think if you asked any decorator whaat they think to a plasterer plastering a wall to the standard thats needed for decorating over, they all would say its not flat and smooth, Hence why so many decorators are red oing wall with this type of stuff, which they can apply, sand and paint all within 24hrs, knowing its so much smoother. Everyone one sayd they have a good plasterer... it's not till that first coat of paint goe son that you see what it's actually like.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator no way you can sort a wall out as well as a decent plasterer with that gear, shouldn't have to sand a proper skimmed wall and if it's a diy job they won't have extraction equipment etc so you must be on commission or a mug 😂😂😂😂
@@ofpcarnageful that’s a bit rude mate he’s only trying help people,you’re just pissed off that he can do it for 30 quid
Do you not need to pva the walls?
nope
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator brilliant. Thanks for the reply.
Interesting Phil, cheers. That sort of wall, traditionally we would have made good and lined it. Would you say this new product is better than lining paper? Looks like a great finish. Probably quicker too?
Oh I still lined it.. I used Albany Reinforced Lining paper... it's made for such a better wall than leaving it all Umpy Dorri..
If you didn't line it, I'd say two applications I'd of got it a lot flatter. But with the house being 150yrs old.... the customer likes the character of not having falt walls.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator interesting. I'll give it a go 👍🏻
What filling blades are they and where to buy
the ones I have are from Brewers.
There's other on my amazon store that will do the same job.
Friable old walls Will crack again at least a lining paper specially fibre backed Will last a long time for client.
Yes, true
Any need to to unibond or similar to stop suction or cure powdery surfaces Phil
i'd say use your common sense if you need to put a sealer on. As the surface needs to be dry and 'sound' before you apply it, or all you'll do is pick up loose brittle parts of the wall you are trying to improve on.
It's ready mixed Easi-fil in a larger tub
No its completely different to easyfill its totally different product you can't smooth out easyfill like that with such ease its more closer to tape and joint compound
Hi phil because it's bare plaster would you seal it before painting or lining. Or is that special plaster
I used Gardz on it as I was Lining over it.
if emulsion, I'd of just eased it slightly and treated it like a new bare surface.. it is ready to paint though.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
Thanks that's how I do bare plaster guardz. I thought it was a special stuff 🙏
Hi , sorry but Newb here . What do you mean when you say eased it ?? Love your videos, I’ve learned a lot
@@adrianwebb6683 ease = thin it down... sometimes its not by very much, just so its easier to apply.. or soak in better than being 'neat' (as it was)
He means if he was to emulsion the wall he would have just put a little water in the first coat, hence… to ease it.
So Buy these rollers and scrapers and simply do the SAME will BE Cheaper Phil or ???
cheaper than what
Just skim it, way faster and no sanding dust. Perfect finish. No sanding marks.
Skim it with what?
He did skim it.
If you are refering to traditional plaster, no way it's faster. Mixing up dust and dirt, carrying bags and buckets and water ... and how long before you can paint 😊?
This you paint next day, no sanding dust since you would be sanding with dust extractor. Actually easy sanding is what makes it attractive to decorators, they don't have to worry and lose time on perfect troweling.
However, traditional plaster is more durable.
This isn't a plastering product, smoothing a wall after wall paper removal, just another prep step before paint that is all.
Can’t see how you’ll get the depth of plastering to cover low and high points you might as-well use toupret skim and fill be cheaper
Like to see if you can go over a few times to see if you don’t just pull it off
just build it up in layers, apply a bit more at a time.
I”ll take five
Are you trying to FLEECE would be Customers in saying BUY THESE TUBS, when All they have to do is Buy a few Scrapers of different sizes knowing full well a sander can make it look so smooth ?
You OK buddy? You need to sort your thoughts out before coming out publicly.
my customers wouldn't be buying anything themselves to do.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator ok.
Cheaper to buy a few bags of plaster rather than these tubs, which is cheaper ?
🤣
SO then Phil, is this TUB-PLASTER cheaper than Bag of plaster, I'm GUESSING NOT ?
maybe not, but the time saving makes it a cheaper option when next day you sand it anad paint it.
No chance , as a decorator in the it not worth the hassle, leave it to the plastering
There's not many decorators who would insist on the clients getting walls reskimmed after stripping wallpaper. Fair play though
It be cheaper to sell the house the price plasters charge today
Artex 2024 🤭
It'll cover over that
How uneconomical is this product? You could easily knock up plaster and do the same process. Enjoyed your work
Tnx.
But I'm not waiting two days for it to dry fully and losing money... £30 ISH a tub... Ready to paint next day.
Time saving.
I would have skimmed that in half the time. 😅
lol, I think I'd of then waited 4 days for it to be dry enough to wash coat, re fill where you've missed areas, sanded and re wash coated before getting my emulsion on. lol
Quicker just to skim it😂
Nice video and demo thanks Phil. If you were painting what would you put on it first? Bullseye?
Knauf do one called proroll you can get in Wickes for £30 a tub looks
Identical stuff.
Just treat it like bare plaster. Thin some emulsion down and coat it up.
Thick paint surley can't see it being any good on uneaven walls.
for what reason?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator sorry spell checker put a t in uneaven I have a wall that has what I would describe pits in It who ever did it put the battons in uneaven it needs serious leveling I am not a plasterer but can do a decent job would look at using the ready made on a untidy wall if that makes sense
@@davelar3868 like i said in the video.. do it a couple of coats to build it up.
Phil ur cred has just hit zero well done
But my views have gone up mentally just off this video... So I say, well done 😂
Haha you make me laugh been plastering for over 10 years and I still don’t say I’m a real plasterer because it takes a life time to get experience not a 10 minute RUclips video.
lol, dead easy plastering now, roll it on, get it as smooth as you can, sand it even smoother the next day.. get ot painted. :) sorted.. any clown can do it now :)
5 says later what a mess
says what?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator😂😂😂😂 he says to always check a message for typos.😂😂😂 what a plum. Great video, I got tonnes of value from this. Cheers pal and I wish you all the success❤
So you've NEVER PLASTERED BEFORE then Phil ? (tell the truth now)
I'm not a plasterer
after 15yrs, i'll stick to thistle and my trowels hahahaha
Dinosaur lol 🦖