Lax Gun Laws a "Death Sentence": Georgia Teen Kills 4 in Deadliest School Shooting of 2024
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A 14-year-old student opened fire Wednesday at a high school in Winder, Georgia, just outside Atlanta, killing two fellow students - both also 14 years old - and two teachers, while injuring at least nine others. The teen shooter, who used an AR-platform-style weapon in his deadly rampage, surrendered to school resource officers and faces multiple murder charges as an adult. The violence in Georgia marks the deadliest U.S. school shooting of 2024 and comes after the teenager was interviewed by police last year following tips to the FBI about online threats of a school shooting.
"We were shocked, of course, but we were not surprised," says Georgia state Representative Dr. Michelle Au, a practicing physician in Atlanta. She had proposed a gun safety bill that was blocked by Republicans in the state who hold both legislative chambers and the governor's office. "Georgia actually has some of the most lax gun laws in the country, which is of course correlated with having a very high incidence of preventable gun violence."
We also speak with Kris Brown, president of the gun violence prevention organization Brady, who says hard-line Republican lawmakers with "extreme" views of the Second Amendment are "fine with it being a death sentence to their fellow Americans."
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what lax gun laws? he was 14. the laws didn't work.
the police and government dropped the ball here, this is on them.
The parents dropped the ball
Possibly, it’s definitely on failed parents and a school that did nothing
No way to prevent this
Says the only nation where this regularly happens
You like your guns over the dead body of children
@@targgthewise2892 So much for parents that are ignorant and stubborn as we can sense that before it is ever mentioned publicly.
@@glendiabrooks8642 🙄 maybe we don’t know what to do. Why don’t you tell us all what YOU are doing to give us an idea
Killing your peers and teachers without hesitation at the age for 14 is more than frightening.
He was just a typical potential US Marine recruit.
The school is to blame for brainwashing children and telling them they were born wrong. It's not the gun, it's the medication making kids violent
@@user-zl9sh9mz6hokay PDFFile guy
@user-zl9sh9mz6h get your head out of your behind, marxist. If you were smart, you'd ask what meds he was on. Buy you're not smart, so you don't ask questions like that.
P.S. the transgender elementary school shooter also was on meds, as was the school shooter before her. All of this is courtesy of the politicians you vote for.
And they suggest communism is a threat.
Until this country deals with the mental health issues, nothing will change.
When social media hit the streets, AMERICA started going down at a faster rate.
@@StarDust-vm1qs also video games imo
Every other first world country has "mental health problems" - whatever this insanely vague phrasing means. The only thing different about our country from the others is our easy and unfettered access to weapons of war, even for 13 year old kids that can't ride on the 'big boy' Roller Coasters at six flags but are somehow mature enough and able to handle semi-automatic rifles responsibly. Pure insanity. Just insanity.
@Black_Caucus no other country is even close to the make up of the United States. How would the gun violence in America look of we took out shootings done by black people?
Mental health problem is a poor excuse not to approve sensible laws to help stop these terrible happenings. Many people in European countries own guns, but don't have the mass shootings we have in this country.The following 5 nations have high numbers of guns, but not the problems like we experience in the USA.And I am sure they must have people with mental problems too: Finland, Switzerland, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. When we stop finding excuses ,many childeren's
lives will be saved. It's not about taking away guns, but having rational laws that will save childeren's lives. But apparently, their lives are not as important as having guns, the wild, wild west style... It seems that other countries honour human lives more and are willing to abide by laws for owning guns, it shows that in this country having lax gun laws is more important than saving lives. Very sad.
Oh look. Another "known to law enforcement" case.
Dealing with law enforcement in the past here in Texas, threats aren't taken seriously, not until something actually happens. The current laws protect the people making threats, not us. So these states loosening the laws on guns and other weapons don't care about the citizens, just the gun lobby. Corruption at its finest.
So what about the parents? And why have an assault weapon anyway ? For what ?
Right, lets ignore the threat because we do not want to hurt their feelings, then let's act surprised that something happened.
@@lornaowens4673 "so what about"
What about the school that received a warning about it that morning huh? Oh yeah they ignored it huh? Didn't they huh? God you people.
"Assault weapon" your ass can't even define it
@@lornaowens4673 what's an assault weapon ? u get those at Walmart beside the non assault weapons?
The problem was the fbi knowing about the kid and letting it happen
What should the FBI have done?
@@camcornish2634their fucking job
@@camcornish2634their job.
The problem was the parents allowing this to happen.
Wrong, that is just A problem amidst a number that USAmericans are unable to solve. One sign of a decaying society.
I'll bet there is already a Georgia gun law against 14 year-olds taking guns to school. How well did that work?
At issue is, how did the kid get hold of an attack firearm.
@@channarosenblatt8197 he obviously stole it.
Shall not be infringed
@@channarosenblatt8197attack firearm? What makes a firearm an attack firearm?
@@channarosenblatt8197 wtf is an attack firearm? does it come with a leash?
How is it that Americans have had access to these kinds of firearms for over 120 years, yet this is only a recent phenomenon of the past 30 years? Has absolutely nothing to do with laws and everything to do with culture and the eroding of the family unit.
It started when the assault weapons ban ended lol
@@taybabzzz LOL Columbine happened during the "assault weapons ban".
@@taybabzzz Not even close to true..
@@taybabzzzok. Name the time an assault weapon was used. Ya Dumfuq. Oh, and one could ALWAYS get a semi auto rifle during your useless ban. Derp
And a lack of sensible laws to limit access and increase accountability.
As parent you should know your kids, if the FBI questioned the boy and the parents. I am sorry the father should have seek help for his son. He should be charged, this should be done to all parents who have kids that commit such crimes. I think parents will do better if they knew they too would be charged. Very irresponsible parenting….
We are still early in the investigation, lets wait until that is complete before third parties should be arrested and charged
@@Curt-Gevert what third party!!! The fact his father knew this, he should have taken the appropriate precautions to protect other children from his child. This shooting could have been avoided.
How about we charge the resource officers for allowing him in the school with a gun as well. Or lets charge the school district for allowing him in the school as well. Lets charge the state as well for not securing schools just as well as they secure courthouses. Lets charge the FBI for their part. See how stupid your idea is?
@@davidshrader6609 Actually, that's a great idea. It's only stupid to stupid people. If they had armed guards and/or the teachers had access to arms, they wouldn't be dead right now.
Exactly
Not lax gun laws, but weak people. I grew up going to school, everyone had deer rifles and shotguns in their cars/trucks. I think there was 1, ONE fist fight in the whole 7 years of junior high and high school. The only thing that's changed are the people.
When you condone and endorse insanity, insanity becomes the norm. I'm with you. I live in Georgia. It wasn't like this when I was in high school 30 years ago. Not even close.
Half the parents in our country are so checked out they aren’t even parenting 9r raising their kids - hence why we see 5 year olds talking about their sex and made-up gender. And who’s surprised when democrats have been actively fighting to break the family for generations?
Not weak ppl... communists.
@@JappaChow communists are weak people
These kids Keep coming from the same environments. They're the usual suspects in these types of shootings..
But his father promised that his kid would not have access to a gun. And the police RELIED on that promise!! OOPS
In most of these cases it seems like the parents just don't want to admit to themselves that their kid is all screwed up and just not normal.They're in denial.
@@moonlightmile50Maybe if parents knew *they* would definitely face time in prison for any murders their child commits with the parent's gun, it might tear away that veil of denial. Especially if they have already had a visit from the police questioning their kid.
we don't know the circumstances of how this kid got the arm
@@Curt-Gevert true, all we can assume is that he didn't legally purchase it. So perhaps he purchased he purchased it illegally? My bet is that it was in the home and he took it.
All the current gun laws were violated. He was flagged. All was done.
What law are they going to pass? Make something "illegal-er"?
If they worded it like that they would see how silly they sound.
The one law the clip pointed out didn't exist is mandating secure storage. Obviously what the parents thought were secure wasn't. A law that made a parent responsible for any murder their child committed with their guns would also be a big motivator for parents to have greater security on their guns.
@Gretabpooh
There are other laws already in place. Kids die more from other things other than guns. Su-i-cide is a BIG number in all these scare tactic statistics. They make up about 60%. Those people will self-delete regardless of the tool.
Making the parents responsible for their Kid's crimes is what needs to be addressed, not the gun storage. Parents get some punishments for some crimes already.
Regard and respect for life is what needs to be emphasized.
@@Gretabpoohhow would you enforce secure storage?
Now the parent thing I can agree with, as long as it’s only when they get one of the parents firearms, and it turn that would incentivize storage .
@@ringadingbaby4332 it doesn’t matter whether incentivizes anything. I don’t want to see anybody punished for something they didn’t do. Also, kids can be smart and work around things, even if the parents do all within their capability.
Or ....hear me out....the FBI could do their damn job....I know crazy right.
The parents should have done their job and realized they had a really screwed up kid.Instead this happened.They sound like a family of yahoos.
But I thought MAGA wanted to defend them?
@@moonlightmile50 Hopefully every parent all over the country can warn their children and tell them about this breaking news as a warning not to follow the 14 year old's behavior.
@@raynwolfsbane2084 maga never wanted to defend mentally insane 14 year olds.... if you take away our guns then more people will die than you ever thought would be possible. it would start a civil war and the country would completely collapse and xi jinping and putin will have a party with our oil in the gulf. zelensky might even get invited too
@@moonlightmile50 We don't know that, the investigation just got started.
The parent was an irresponsible gun owner. How did that kid get the gun? The parent needs to be held responsible for allowing that kid to get a hold of the weapon.
we don't know the circumstances of how this kid got the arm, it's too early to make that claim
What if you have a responsible 16 year old daughter at home? You going to leave her there defenseless against some intruders with ill intent? People need to leave guns accessible to their kids when they are home alone. It needs to be legal for that to happen.
The parents aren't at fault because the kid did what he did. Are we going to start charging parents when kids get into car accidents? Such a stupid idea and a very slippery slope.
@@davidshrader6609 That's the liberal utopia vision, I sit next to someone, never sharing a word with him, on a bus, he robs a convenient store after leaving the bus, just because I sat next to him, I am guilty and need to be thrown in jail forever and ever. That's what I am hearing from these clowns.
u are silly he is 14 its the parents the magot parents ill bet @@Curt-Gevert
We don't have lax gun laws,we have lax laws on people who've been known to be a threat but no one does anything about them. All the counselors and shrinks the schools waste money on always say AFTER an attack was that they had suspicions, but they don't act on them.
You can't arrest someone for suspicion, they have to have broken a law. The Dad assured them the kid wouldn't have access to the gun but obviously didn't have it locked up.
@@kristinelson5894 Of course you can. It’s called the Baker Act.
@@kristinelson5894 It wasn't suspicion, he actually made the threats and now has acted on those threats!!
@@makerstudios5456 you cant use that to imprison someone.
@@watermage25 It’s used to detain people with mental problems who haven’t committed crimes yet. They don’t go to prison but that’s splitting hairs. They can’t leave.
So.... did this teen know it was against the law for him to have a rifle in his possession, that it was illegal to take a rifle to school, and that it was illegal and immoral to murder other humans? I think he knew well all of those things were unlawful.
So how can more laws change that?
Laws are for punishment after the fact, not control, before the fact.
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More laws mean nothing to criminals. More laws only punish responsible gun owners and unconstitutionally limit our 2nd amendment right and NEED to defend ourselves. We need to defend ourselves now more than ever.
@@tjhessmon4327 watch the full video about proposed laws.
Legislation that made gun owners responsible for securing their weapons would at least allow holding those ultimately responsible for keeping their guns out of the hands of the perpetrators of these school shooting. The NRA used to be known for teaching responsible gun ownership instead of promoting wider distribution of guns without restrictions.
@@jeffschroeder4805 LOL, all the current law enforcement policies, and all the current numerous laws on books, failed. You want more. Nice critical thinking there.
@@srsmopar3808 So what is your suggestion. I agree that more ineffective laws won't reduce school killings. What if the father had been required to have secured that rifle. It would make prosecuting him for negligence much easier. The law can't stop anyone but the father could have!
The 14 yr old shooter broke over a dozen GA state laws to commit this act. More laws would not solve anything. Time to start focusing on the criminal and not the gun.
This kid was on the radar of local pd and the FBI, too
we need laws that make parents responsible for the willful misconduct of their children..
The state doesn't have laws mandating guns be secured. The parent thought the guns were secure, they weren't. A law that defined "secure" would also be helpful.
@@Gretabpooh Such a law can not violate the 4th Amendment, because most of the proposed laws requiring safe storage are 4th Amendment violations.
@@michaelbonner9863 that’s a stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. And how old does it continue? Until 18?
There's over 20,000 gun laws on the books. The laws are not lacks, their excessive. We have a mental illness problem not a firearms problem.
Alright, so... multiple choice. A) only people in America suffer from mental illness. B) you're talking shit.
When a law that was instituted and showed results, you don't let it sunset or chose not to reup it. Simply madness. The US mantra, "How can we defeat OURSELVES.
"When a law that was instituted and showed results" LOL delusional. Columbine happened during the "assault weapons ban".
District of Columbia v. Heller says otherwise. Plus, the so called assault weapons ban actually did nothing to crime rates, according to the FBI
When you have a heart attack do you blame the clot, or the life style that caused it?
Obviously they blame clot
Obviously you're not a medical-worker 😅
@@TerrorTerros "officer, but, i didnt shoot him! my gun did!"
Actually, you blame the corporate cartel for only allowing us to access trash food.
NO YOU FOOL
you blame the assault heart for attacking your body. We need to have a conversation about common sense heart control.
Please be specific. Exactly what gun law would have prevented this crime? Guns are inanimate objects, and they don't kill people by themselves. If they did, everyone attending a gun show would be in mortal danger. Perhaps it's a "people" problem?
@@Jesse3736 watch the entire video with Representative Dr. Au talking about which law that doesn’t exist in GA.
@@GoldenDragonFortunes How about you do criminal control?
@@GoldenDragonFortunes aww is murder not a law on the books in Georgia? gaslight a kindergarten more you skill level
I am 53 and I live 50 miles south of Atlanta. When I was in high school we had our rifles hanging in the rear window of our trucks. We had Buck knives on our belts. NEVER! NOT ONCE DID ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN. It's not the guns. It's people. Lack of morals. Lack of discipline. Lack of respect. Kids are being raised weak and scared.
The laws changed about how parents discipline their children and this is the end result. Our parents didn’t play. Parents hands are tied with how they discipline their children.
@@arleneaugustahair8393Oh yes, that's the issue. Mass School shootings are caused by those who weren't BEATEN enough as a child.
My God. You lot are pathetic.
Demographics change and so did culture
Handguns are the most popular weaon for murders, then knives come in 2nd. Murders committed with rifles are actually very low compared to the other 2 . In fact more people are beaten to death by bare hands than rifles.
over 400 people die in the us every year FALLING OUT OF BED! better ban all beds to be safe
@@rhetorical1488 we need to ban coconuts and sharks and even the evil vending machines too
Why is the inanimate object always to blame? Why are so many people so quick to blame an object but never the individual operating the object? It's a mental health issue, plain and simple. Discipline, structure and awareness toward our youth by responsible adults could prevent more of these incidents than more laws!
You can say the same about drugs..
Because, that object is not a broom or a comb. It is a gun!
You would have a point if this was a global problem. It’s only here, the problem is the guns. We average 7 school shootings PER month last year and it’s much higher this year. They happen so often that most don’t even get covered. Second amendment clearly has regulation in it, but for some reason right wingers cut it off before it gets to that part. You may think this is normal but we look like psychopaths to the rest of the world. When it comes to guns I agree them, we as a nation have a problem with guns.
It's called deflection. It's a mental health issue that antigunners have.
@@sumdimsumA broom can be used to kill. It's happened in jails and prisons.
what would make a kid kill his teachers and fellow classmates???
Not hard to imagine how cruel teachers and fellow classmates can be and it should not be hard to imagine this kid felt well enough offended to murder his peers in retaliation for what he determined, real or not, to be constant harassment, intimidation, and ridicule from his peer group in closed spaces for 6 hours a day. It should not be hard to imagine that the only place to escape the dull drum of suburban life would be on line and become part of community not homegrown. Racism, sexism, cultural and social bias, form in the first stages of life and start in the home. If you father was a racist your mother married one makes her a racist too and it follows all offspring therefrom bear racism as part of their mental DNA. The problem lies in the fact that you have around 146 million 640 thousand individual homes as the place children acquire the defective DNA that explodes in civil society and we are back to square one reproducing racists generation after generation all carried over by parents. If America wants to be more social it will have to tear off the individualism to make a new human being or a being that is more human.
Stop labeling it as "gun violence". There's no such thing. If a criminal uses a knife, you don't call it knife violence. So, there's no such thing as gun violence. Stop blaming guns for what criminals do.
But... but....
Liberals are brainwashed sheep.
Mental health is what we need to look at. Guns don’t people, people kill people
Which do you think will kill more students more quickly... a knife or a gun? No one needs an AR.
So you're offended that inanimate objects are being insulted? 😅
Wray needs to go. He may be the most dangerous person at the FBI. Trump should have fired Wray when he fired Comey. The good news is he won't be there much longer.
Ezplain
@jennifermiller7012 Because they are all corrupt. The system is broken. >DOJ, CIA, NSA, CDC, NIH, IRS, ATF, FBI. Just, to name a few. The entire system is broken.
His father is Liable n needs 2 be charged as well..PERIODT
In Georgia the age of responsibility is 13. If the kid is 14 it's on him, not his parents.
What about the mother? Don't be a sexist
A communists wet dream
Absolutely.Sounds like a family of yahoos that are in denial about how screwed up the kid is.
That would be racist
I’m all for storing guns safely to make sure kids don’t get them. I think that’s just common sense. But there shouldn’t be any kind of ban on any guns/weapons. Look at what happened to Australia.
Murder is already illegal. The perpetrator here ignored all applicable laws. People need to accept the fact that there is a small percentage of humans that don't follow laws. Criminals commit crimes.
Perhaps training and arming school staff could be a step in the right direction? Maybe just knowing that some staff is armed would be a good deterrent?
Georgia actually allows teachers to carry, but they gave the final say to the districts. Unfortunately out of 100+ districts, only 3 allow teachers to carry.
@@AFloridaSon guess which districts dont have a school "gun" issue😉
@@rhetorical1488u think a teacher is going to play law enforcement and take a shooter eith an assault weapon down? Parkland highschool had an armed officer on the school grounds. You are asking a lot of underpaid and undervalued people in our society
@@watermage25 If a teacher is confronted with an armed killer? Yes. I expect them to do whatever they can to defend themself and their students. Whether or not they act is completely on each individual.
@@Nerbly it is not a detterent is what i am saying. Reading comprehension is low i see
I'm frightened by people who are frightened by individual rights.
Guns victims were frightened, by guns more than anything else. put that in your pipe and smoke it.@@michaelpcoffee
The American PARENTING system has failed miserably. Stop blaming the schools.
Guns are not the problem. People are the problem.
People having access to guns is the problem.
@@Gretabpooh then why were there fewer school shootings when guns were easier to acquire?
Amen 🙏
@@blackswan4486 Source?
The boy was part of the lgbt community. Pay attention to whom he targeted. Seem like a hate crime. Straight people should be a protected class
These shootings have been going on for around 20 YEARS. Not 2, not 5, but 20 years. The saaaaaame conversations have been had over and over and over again about gun laws. Some of these people reporting on this stuff were in high school themselves not thinking about this. But here we are. What does this mean? That the government really isn't going to do anything. It didn't do anything 20 years ago, 15, years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, not during the Ulvade elementary shooting when kid used same type of weapon. Nothing has been done, nor will it ever. Money, power, and corruption will keep things as they are.
Gun laws don't have anything to do with this
Exactly
@@vincentvincent4409 if they can ban punch daggers and brass knuckles, ya know "armaments" then the 2nd amendment no longer applies. Either we have the right to bear arms (not firearms, but "arms" meaning any force-multiplier beyond our bare hands and feet) or we don't.
You are right, it is the LACK of gun laws that has everything to do with it.
@@thomasprislacjr.4063take it to scotus then. But you’d need to prove those are arms in common use.
I disagree. 'Gun free zones' are the worst of the laws, providing 'soft targets' for the deranged to rampage through. Gun laws in general contribute to the problem, but the 'gun free zones' are the worst of the laws.
Charge the parents with negligence if you like, but specific storage requirments are a non-starter. You are not going to presume to "supervise" gun owners.
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I won't presume gun owners have a functioning brain, either.
Keep the families together
@@sitaroutreachministry6289 good luck with that, you are welcome for the welfare.
@@sitaroutreachministry6289... Assuming that anyone has a functioning brain in this world has always been risky. Spend but a short time on the road to see ample demonstration.
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@@sitaroutreachministry6289 A little stand up comedy.
Maybe if the press would show unedited photos of the bloody mangled bodies of the victims, maybe then the public would be sufficiently aroused to press for effective gun control.
If you legally purchase a gun in the state of Georgia, you do a background check. Permit or not. Pretty positive that is the same case in all states. “Stricter” gun laws will not prevent gun violence. Murder, drugs, driving under the influence are illegal. We have laws against that but unfortunately people break laws every day. We don’t have a gun problem, we have a people problem. Parents need to parent and recognize flags with their children. Whoever was involved with investigating this kid last year needs to be held accountable as well. I live within an hour of this school and it’s terrifying but public officials need to quit sweeping threats under the rug.
The father said the boy had no access to the guns. Same story over and over again.
I'm sure evilness in people have nothing to do with this type of tragedy, the guns are always to blame.
I don’t believe lax gun laws are the main issue here. The child likely accessed a firearm that belonged to his parents, which should have been securely locked away and out of his reach. There are states with lenient gun laws experiencing record-high crime rates, so I don't think punishing responsible gun owners is the solution. Instead, we should focus more on the mental health aspect. This child showed clear warning signs, yet no action was taken. The FBI was aware of his concerning behavior, but nothing was done. We need a more effective system for responding to individuals exhibiting such suspicious tendencies.
If guns are the problem, why are mine not a problem? I've had a lot for many years and they stay in the safe where I leave them. How do I know if any of them are bad?
This was a failure of his parents and security officials for not stopping him.
we don't know the circumstances of how this kid got the arm, it's too early to make that claim
@@Curt-Gevert if your darling 14 yo commits mass murder you failed as a parent. end of.
More like a Failure of the System.
@@Curt-GevertYes we do. He bought it for him for Christmas 2023. He said that he took his son out to shoot, "so he got away from video games." He thought it was better to have him shoot real guns instead of sitting indoors and playing video games. 🤦🏻♀️ Like he's never heard of playing catch or hiking or fishing or...
We've got to get a handle on our toxic masculinity and fascination with high powered weapons in this country. Oh but isn't it the video games that are making these young men violent? It's a tragedy of folly.
@@feralhomunculus ok, I wanted to wait to find out the circumstances of the weapon, too often people with a lack of knowledge jump to confusions. I still want more information. Guns are not the problem
Not about lax gun laws. About common sense, core family and values. Not letting kids run their own lives. Teaching responsibility and the Ten Commandments. I grew up where every 3rd car or truck in the high school parking lot had a gun in it during deer or turkey season. No issues. I pray for this country to get back to family and common sense.
Both parties have one significant thing in common…they rarely, if ever, discuss mental health as a root cause of so many issues. A person doesn’t just randomly become a dangerous shooter out of the blue. Whether it’s a school, a theater, or a major political rally, the perpetrator is always in a state of mental trauma and distress, and often has been for years. We need to do more as a society to get real help for people with mental illness. We need to acknowledge it instead of looking the other way, and we need more research on what factors lead to mental illness and how to prevent it.
Exactly. It took the fbi a year to get this kid to this point.
Mental health has NOTHING to do with this. This who we are as a society. Outlaws and killers from day 1
we should prevent the kid from having the willingness to kill instead of saying "its magas fault that guns arent banned"
Wait…you think criminals and bad parents like this one would have followed a new law?
Maybe not, but if there where laws you'd be able to get the guns and prevent them from getting any more.
@@TerrorTerros he broke like a dozen laws to do this. fail harder
Laws do not prevent crime, they punish people who've committed crimes.
@@Curt-Gevert right.. which is why we have just as many school-shootings per capita in Europe..
@@TerrorTerros I don't compare myself to how someone with a similar background to has it in europe. In the United States we have a constitution which defines our rights. Just because europe does it doesn't mean we should
We already have laws to prevent this from happening.
It’s illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to own firearms.
The problem is that these kids have more power than adults. I grew up in the 70's where discipline not abuse was used to keep kids in line fearing the consequences of acting bad and doing wrong. Now it didn't work for all but 80% compared to almost no control. Other than the gangs of the 90's these things rarely happened at all. Can't always blame the parents who have no power to keep their kids out of trouble. Can lock guns up and they'll get it from friends on the street. This won't stop and banning a weapon will not solve this problem
I am 60. My father was Marine Corp, I grew up with guns. He Never left his weapons unlocked or accessible to anyone but my mom.
Your comments are absolutely correct.
San Diego
Discipline is not abuse, but sometimes the stuff they do in the name of discipline is. I’m glad that stuff is no longer popular. You can raise kids with discipline without the abusive stuff.
I'm 58. My dad was a cop. The guns were stores unloaded with actions open in certified gun locker. All ammunition was locked up separately..
This type of event is NOT routine. They are rare and tragic.
They're not rare, not in the US anyway. They are tragic though.
USA = #1 in most school shootings in the world at 288 shootings
México = #2 in most school shootings at 8 shootings
you’re purposefully trying to convince yourself this isn’t a huge problem here in USA. school shootings in USA have become a joke in pop culture around the world now. that is bc it is so common and IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE
rare? there have been 24 school shootings in 2024 alone.
It is routine. It happens ALL the time. What are you on?!
@@DlCKWALLACELess than 1 in a million, far less
NOTHING TO DO WITH GUN LAWS ,,,IT GOT A LOT TO DO WITH THE LACK OF HARSH SENTENCES AND THE DEATH PENALTY
If they can ban punch daggers and brass knuckles, ya know "armaments" then the 2nd amendment no longer applies. Either we have the right to bear arms (not firearms, but "arms" meaning any force-multiplier beyond our bare hands and feet) or we don't.
Guns are the number one killer of kids in America. You're already the prison capital of the world.
@@thomasprislacjr.4063just because you keep spamming this, doesn’t make it intelligent
What’s sad is this kid will become an adult and more than likely regret everything he did. I do think this was a societal problem and a lack of giving a shit parenting problem.
Why doesn't Amy also focus on mass gun violence in Philadelphia, NYC, Baltimore, etc.? You know, the majority of mass gun violence in the US?
Wouldn't fit the narrative. Can't fix the poors
The poor scholars and future doctors are being forced to shoot those guns 😢
Poors... can't fix the future scientists and astronauts... u know u know
Because she has ZERO integrity as per most "democraps".
That would be racist
I don't ever trust a doctor to talk about firearms.
Sounds like there's consequences for a parent whose teenager gets to those "locked away" guns...?
So you’re actually saying, out loud, that a minor doesn’t have the right to self defense or I guess any Constitutional rights. Figures
Georgia is a no lock state sadly 😢that's the freaking problem it should be the law that you have to lock up all weapons when you have kids in the house.
@MargieTackett or your gun your responsibility
@@MargieTackett maybe. But a 14yo should be old enough to self defense. Derp. Perhaps THIS one wasn’t, we’re warning signs ignored? Absent parents? School ignore any issues? Your blanket statement is moronic.
@targgthewise2892 So you're saying that this was self defense 😳🤣😂😅
His father knew. He moved him to a new school district and the FBI dropped the ball on monitoring his movements and warning the new school district. That kid should have BEEN REMOVED from the public system . His father is his accomplice somehow. He knew.
Same old same old school shooter killed fellows students,my condolences to the family that lost their love ones, this is just nine days talk and every one goes back to business this society is all about bla bla bla bla and no action
We see you failed to cite any specific action that could be taken. Well done complainer
@@targgthewise2892 he probably wants to ban "automatic weapons" not realizing that automatics are already banned and have been for 40 years
No matter how horrendous the crime , a 14 yr old is NOT an adult. We must do better for our children
so why do you allow them to change gender at 6?
@@rhetorical1488well, that's a sentiment I can agree with.
I don’t think you need to be an adult to not want to murder people.
I thought guns being locked up when not in use was already a law
News Flash, criminals don't care about the law.
@@Curt-Geverttheir goal is to take legal responsible gun owners guns, they just don't like to say it
It is, and there has never been a greater threat than a child's curiosity or ill intention. We may find out that the kid busted a lock or learned an access code. We still need more info.
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it’s not a law enforced. be fr. 🙄
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting the same outcome.
Insanity: Proposing to stop lawbreakers by enacting more laws.
@@starman2337 Made it just a little too easy, haven't we just?
For some reason the Police investigative report did not follow the student to future schools. His High School was in a different county and therein lies the communication breakdown.
Ahhh. Thank for that information.
Thats baffling to me. My son started kindergarten & demanded to see his 'records' from his Pre-K before accepting him.
Even if no police I do was given, guidance councilors and principals of previous schools often call the transfer school to communicate pertinent info. When I worked at a school we have a new family move in from another state, no biggie, it happens frequently. But this time the previous school’s guidance councilor called our guidance councilor to give us the update: this child’s family moved because they were being investigated for trafficking this child to PDF files for drug money. That I do helped, and a year or so later this child was removed from her home because of crimes her parents committed. So why was there such epic communication breakdown in this case?
I live here and have reported to the sheriff in jackson county about a person who was making serious threats AND was mentally ill... they did nothing, she ended up shooting a cop in the face. I knew the girl, she was very unstable and made countless threats to the police and judges here. Nothing was done, per usual.
Still a failure in government
It's so blatantly obvious that law enforcement was deficient, but hatred fostered in a 13-14 year old implicates parental deficiency, period
Some dumbass law isn’t stopping anything
You look the part up, you will see a slow change in behavior.
shh quiet. you're telling the liberals too much for them to understand
Stop blaming the tool and blame the user.
Blame the school, they are nothing more than indoctrination and child abuse centers. They literally tell kids to hate each other and themselves
Can't believe there wasn't a law against Murder, maybe they should tighten that up
An Officer with a GUN STOPPED HIM.
Yeah right
Only thing I can agree with is have a large safe or even a small safe to prevent most theft of firearms and prevent accidentally falling into wrong hands unauthorized or untrained hands that reside inside the household. Even trigger locks could really stop these senseless acts but no.... I do not agree with taking away sporting rifles (no such thing as an assault weapon). Second amendment WAS NOT written for hunting purposes, it is for an even playing field of a tyrannical government so they can not infringe on our other rights. If we give any with our rifles, it will only go further and further towards disarming us completely. It will get easier and easier. I know I'll get tons of hate comments but this is just my opinion, absolutely no one has to agree with me and I don't expect everyone too agree. I've had access to guns my whole life and got my first shotgun at 10 years old back in 97 then a year or two later a lever action 30-30 rifle and then a pump action 12g shotgun that I always knew where they were. Either people are not teaching right from wrong or they're not paying attention to early signs of trouble with their children and in this case of this tragic event, all red flags were ignored from last year with him talking about a shooting last may when cops had to investigate this family then. They swept it under the rug. This was preventable with common sense but it shouldn't be preventable at the expense of taking away our rights to own these sporting rifles. The rifle didn't do this, a very disturbed kid was allowed to do this that shouldn't have had access to a BB gun. Blame the parents. Sorry for the rant.
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Remember this.
When guns are illegal only illegals will have guns
Including the governing authorities?
Doesn't work that way in the rest of the world, unless you are saying they don't have outlaws.
@@Gretabpooh Enjoy Africa
Stop pretending that's not because you've made it so easy.
Tools aren't the problem, people are!!
i aint letting my kid go to school from now
Wasn't learning anything there anyway
@@danieldaniels7571 Nah, he was learning how to dress as a girl.
An ADULT bought and was responsible for the safe storage of the gun.
That was pretty quick to decide to charge him as an adult.
state law allows it for 14
@@rhetorical1488 Welcome to Georgia.
It’s 12 here
11yrs for federal crimes, so the FBI failed in this case. There should be a law that states if they (FBI) decide not to charge the kid, the case should've been referred to DCFS and the childn is be removed from the home only to return once the firearms are removed from the home until he graduates HS.
Yes education about proper gun use and respect for what damage a gun can do. Praying for all of us Americans in the United States of America.
Forget common sense gun regulations. Anyone should be able to go to the local store and buy an AR-15 assault rifle, machine gun, bazooka, grenade launcher, or a nuclear missile. It’s a 2nd amendment right! God bless the NRA. They just love our kids. Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers...
NYSRPA v. Bruen was not an NRA case, District of Columbia v. Heller was not an NRA case, McDonald v. City of Chicago was not an NRA case. the NRA is largely irrelevant in the gun rights debate.
@@Curt-Gevert "the NRA is largely irrelevant in the gun rights debate" Oh please.
@@MrSevillian Keep believing that then, that is why you lose. You haven't updated your brain.
joined 2 days ago. nice new shill accout. how many bans you got?
Giving anyone access to firearms is clearly not wise thing to wish. You wouldn't sell a firearm to a convicted felon, would you? I'm not saying that to imply stupidity. I'm just saying that with great power comes great responsibility, and not everyone has shown a history of being responsible with that kind of access to power.
This extremely sad, but if it was a minority the Sheriff officers would have taken the guns away from the house - America's double standard is putting everyone at risks.
Talk about the real problem. It’s not school shootings. It’s gang violence.
Talking about that would be racist
@@TimmysFriendSimulator Ironically, gun control laws are actually racist.
@@TimmysFriendSimulator talking about that instead would be falcious. Both are "real" problems that need to be addressed. Silly comment.
and people are still dying
@@anthonyanderson77 Around 300 people a year are killed with all long guns including ARs. 10K or so are killed by gangs yearly. It’s not even comparable.
Having more stringent laws may not erase the gun problems in the US without corresponding teaching and applying morality starting with the young
Why is it most people who do mass schooling are Christian. How do you even measure morality. Seems like the people who, by American standards, have the highest morality are most likely to do mass shootings.
@@johnnygoodman2003which of the recent shootings was an actual Christian or claimed to be? The most recent one was a homosexual. Not a Christian.
Less than a month into the school year that’s insane.
It wasn't laxed gun.laws ,it was laxed parent's, the parent's should also be charged with the murders.
Biden and Harris America
Look to the state government. All Republican.
@@Bete_NoirUgh…. no? Hell, both of its senators are Democrats for one. LOL
Sounds like the parents, law enforcement AND the school are also responsible...
Parents, teachers, fbi, and local law knew about the threats that this kid made.. I think the community needs to know about the threats because we can't expect the others to do anything. Perhaps let parents and the public know who and how many potential threats exist at each school? This way the community can avoid those schools.
@CreekinThe Ozarks If he was a known threat, then he should have been searched every single day coming and going and then some. Otherwise, he should have been sent to a more secure environment for schooling.
@@StepbyStepbyMiriam shooting threats normally call for expulsion but that didnt happen here... wonder why...
It’s not the gun problem it’s people
Why can't I open carry ninja swords?
1 ninja swords are a hollywood invention. 2 some places you can lol
NYSRPA v. Bruen says you can carry your ninja sword
Wait... This kid was already on the radar?
Are you f'n kidding me...🤬
Money is supreme among all even children😢 and that's the reality!!
Congress has routinely voted for money to enhance school security and harden them. Lefties will not consider it, unless gun control is a part of it. The money to enhance school security should be done regardless of how you feel about gun control.
@@Curt-Gevert It's probably why both measures should be enacted jointly for greatest success.
The Greeks invented money for people who were disabled ill or just poor and couldn't produce anything to trade. But they were also warned that the undesirables the greedy could take advantage money! That's why the greedy cup was made. Acropolis was made as a symbol of wealth power. And the Acropolis was destroyed because of wealthy and power. Money not only destroyed its country but it's people! And that is why for thousands of years the Greeks never rebuilt.But left in rubble as a warning to others!!!
@@mick8888V No, they should be done separately. Gun control will not pass, school safety measures, minus gun control, have a good chance of passing
@@Curt-Gevert if separate...only one would pass...no more having Lucy steal the ball from Charlie Brown. Sorry.
How do i ban this channel? Geez
This isnt about all that. How this 14 yr old kid got access to a gun is the issue. Mental health treatments too
With the exception of airports & government buildings here in Scotland 🏴 even the cops don’t have guns . If I saw a cop with a gun just walking down the st I would be TERRIFIED.
Welcome to the United States, where our constitution guarantees an individual right to own a firearm.
Would you be terrified if those same cops were standing in your living room questioning you about a meme you reshared online?
We don’t want your laws.
I bet you would. But you probably wouldn't be if you were armed too.... Wow
I see that a lot on foreign TV content. In the UK, you send young, slight female constables to deal with much larger, stronger and potentially armed criminals. Why would anyone want to do that?
Gun laws have nothing to do with this.
Assault weapons are not for self defense.
All weapons can be assault weapons.
"Assault weapons are not for self defense." LOL, you just proven that you don't know anything.
Liberal bot!
Define "assault weapon", Libby.
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010), New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022). Future cases may differ from your claim.
Too many firearms at homes, streets, available to minors and unbalanced people.
I live in Winder and I will tell you... it is insanely easy to get guns here. They're everywhere.
Said by someone who has never purchased a gun
Thanks for the tip
Oh no not the scary old gun😂😂😂
IF you are a law abiding citizen with no criminal record, what should it be? There's already a federal background check to receive approval
And yet this never happened before which means it’s NOT the guns, it’s this crazy kid!
Actually, the lack of armed staff at schools is one of the causes for so many deaths in these active shooter scenarios. Also, the utter negligent incompetence from LEO agencies from local police to the FBI that, often, know of the risks that an individual poses and yet does nothing to prevent that said individual pulls the trigger. It's almost like they're complicit.
I mean, he knew this is the problem. Dad needs to go to jail.
Let's wait for further investigation before third parties needing jail time.
I got shot at in a road rage incident on August 25th. The police will not take his guns because he has not been found guilty. The guy lives close by. They should take all of his firearms until the trial is complete over but they can’t. It was unlucky for him because I’m a Disabled Veteran. I chased him down to get his tag number. I don’t have any firearms but it’s not the first time I have been shot at so I wasn’t scared. I was more angry than anything else.
That's crazy. That person should be in jail right now awaiting trial for attempted murder.
Please please be careful, theirs no justice in Satan's wicked world. I'm glad that your doing ok, be safe 🙂.
Good Morning Amy Goodman and Democracy Now!
Thank You !
This is very Sad.
Why so many Guns ???
Because the United States has what is called a 2nd Amendment. Now for a 14 year old to possess a gun, that is illegal. The real question should be How did he get the gun?
Republicans
Because Dems defund police, won't put criminals in prison, import illegal criminals, and empty jails. Smart people know they have to defend themselves.
Why so many people with mental illness ????" is a more pressing question
@@sitaroutreachministry6289 Explain Chicago gun violence then?
Lax gun law. There are already strong laws against a 14 year old possession of guns. Go to a gun store and see if a 14 year old can buy a guy if you like. How about holding parents accountable in raising thier kids. If thier kids committ a crime, the parent and the child gets the penalty.
Teach your kids respect and honor God's words.
So many guns in the States. It’s crazy. You need stricter gun laws like all the other advanced countries in the world do.
You're more than welcome to try and take them away from people, yourself, you won't get far.
Most of us here in the states agree with you. A certain political party has been holding us hostage regarding improving laws, and a great deal of the flow of money to those affiliated with that political party comes from those who believe Guns "trump" all else. I HOPE Democrats win the House and Senate, and the Presidency, so we can finally pass better gun security laws.
Guns were way easier to get before the 2000's and we never had this problem. Obviously it isn't a gun problem and laws will do nothing to curb the shootings, as criminals don't follow laws. Just like the idiot in this shooting, he was not old enough to own a gun but it didn't stop him. So tell me again how you can stop it from happening, simpleton.
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Are gun laws are fine. It’s criminals that are the issue.
the lunacy and madness of this country with the conservatives are just insane.
Listen to you lolz..."Lunacy, Madness,Insane" got anymore ad homs to make you feel better?
@@ThrockmortonJGildersleeve yeah, crazy and wacko.
@@travelswithminky246 Guns were way easier to get before the 2000's and we never had this problem. Obviously it isn't a gun problem and laws will do nothing to curb the shootings, as criminals don't follow laws. Just like the idiot in this shooting, he was not old enough to own a gun but it didn't stop him. So tell me again how you can stop it from happening, simpleton.
the lunacy and madness of this country with the liberals and the wokies is much worse.
Calm down, I heard the killer was a Democrat.
We need free mental healthcare in America.