Oh my, I didn't remember those light novels plots. Miko going "This is a human society - at the moment, anyway -" sounding more sus than ever. Is it weird that I don't find this evolution theory cracked at all? And I cannot express how happy I was to see Enjou again.
YEAH i think you also have to make certain selections to actually learn those plotlines so it'd be very easy to miss. I didn't even know about it, I was just trying to look up something about the three realms event... which was the same patch!! I looove Enjou I'm so happy to see him again
21:05 since the theatre came out and the witches name dropped the nephilims as an half human half divine civilization I'm convinced that those were kanri'ahns Hence why they don't need any god, as they are divine themselves And if different pupils= different "species of human" this checks outs Humanoid saurians have vertical eyes Humanoid gods have star shaped eyes
@@julesgarcia7406 yeah I've been thinking about that quite a lot. Deinsleif has some strange power that could be related to the abyss But in Natlan we have seen how toxic can that be, aside from that arlecchino bloodline as well had special abilities In addition to that kanri'ah was really developed thanks to their technology and alchemy but so far we've seen that to be able to do such things in teyvat you can't be just a normal human, something is boiling down there
@@shenitasanderson5129 technically Celestia IS an alien authority, as out of teyvat And the traveler as well could be classified as Aliens. If I'm not mistaken I think that the Archon/Celestia themselves are especially described as aliens somewhere in the texts
@@shenitasanderson5129 I mean...the archons have ars goeatia names, which we could classify as fallen angel + We don't really have anything explicitly correlated to Christian iconology so the terms angel could really be anything heaven related In any case it's something that is neither human nor completely divine
Enjou,my beloved,I was so happy to see you!!! Why can't we just hang out with Enjou? Sitting in his Abyssal library and occasionally traveling to dig out some juicy lore
Arlecchino's eyes are pretty simple actually, you just need to overlay them with the other established eyes of Khaenri'ahns, and boom, you get the 8 pointed Star seen on Khaenri'ahn clothing, it's the 2 different dynasties. Neuvillette in general made me suspicious of many pre-existing characters, not only in his unique pupils but also his ears. Like, whats up with elf ears in Genshin? WARNING!!! This got really long and tangent-y!!! I have been thinking about some of these things for a long time but only now have they become extremely relevant and also have more evidence to support it. Feel free to make your own conclusions it's just a lot of overlapping ideas that I don't see talked about. - - - Characters with animal-like features such as ears or horns have been likened to Liyue's Illuminated Beasts a couple of times. But a lot of them are probably more akin to Ganyu or especially Yanfei, Diona or Tighnari come to mind. Inazuma seems to be a bit more like Liyue with the Yokai, off the top of my head the only exception I can think of is Gorou and maybe Kujo Sara? Anyways my point is is that most (key word is most, I'm looking at you Ei) "non-human" characters get somewhat of an explanation, accept for one group of characters, the ones with elf ears. The overarching idea here is that the "non-human" looking characters are descendants of Illuminated Beasts who took humanoid shape and mated with humans, and the same idea is being established in Natlan with Dragons. There are a surprising amount of myths about this exact thing, and it's now starting to be explicit within Genshin's narrative wich is uh... okay I guess I didn't think they would actually talk about this but this is just what's happening now. Klee is stated to be from a "race with long longevity" but we've never been told much about this despite how many characters share this trait, nor have we been given a name for said race. With 2 of these characters being a part of Natlan's main story quest I can't help but wonder if this has anything to deal with dragons. Especially with the emphasis put on Chasca and her backstory, a lot of it seems very suspicious. Iansan was also the first Natlan character we were introduced to. One of the other first things we learned about Natlan was about Venessa and the people of Murata, putting a huge emphasis on characters with bright red hair since they were exiled and most likely spread out into different places, unlike pure blooded Kaenri'ahns who mostly stayed in one place. Maybe this also happened with the "elves." Also Nahida has elf ears AND unique pupils (although could just be a design choice not lore like Hu Tao) but I think that maybe there's a possibility that the "avatar of Irminsil" has more ties to actual land of Teyvat than we thought. Nahida shares traits both associated with dragons (ie Neuvilette's pointed ears) and the Heavenly Pricipals (expy of Theresa who is a clone of a Kaslana. I don't want to get into why Kaslana traits have links to the Heavenly Pricipals since this is about Genshin but its more about the link to the Sustainer of Heavinly principals who looks like Kiana and a heavy emphasis on the moon being linked to the white /silver hair especially. So just look at the physical appearance and don't worry about lore.) What this incredibly long tangent is getting to is that I think half dragon people are actually spread around everywhere, possibly as a form of survival or something, and I'm sure there's something to be said about Seeles too, having horns and all and also having pale skin and hair and ties to the moon sisters and ugh there's just too much.
TL;DR what's with these magic animals mating with humans what's up with that, also Alice drives me crazy with everything she says or does, please help.
very interesting idea!! now that i read this, i always found it weird/interesting that the Alberichs don't have any (seemingly) elf traits despite their name meaning "king of the elves" plus, not to mention their ties to faeries and by extension--- seelies. (alberich became oberon over time, who's the king of the faeries in Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream") if elves could be half dragon people then where does that leave pureblood khaenri'ahns? it's so weird how we keep getting characters in genshin with elf ears but there's just no explanation for it.... hopefully we get more answers with chasca.
Also just remembered that this idea even extends a bit to Honkai Star Rail with Dan Heng and his "Imbibitor Lunae" design, although I don't know much about Star Rail so it's a purely physical observation. Ofc the one character this idea does not apply to is Zhongli, further adding credence to the idea that he is purely some kind of Adeptus and isn't lying about that or anything, although that one form of his is suspiciously hooded, and he is able to change forms as we know but who knows what's going on with that guy. Elf ears and "dragon" just seems to be a running idea with Hoyo.
do you think it's possible the sage could've attempted merging human and dragon together already by merging with xbalanque himself? and that's why xbalanque was able to defeat the pyro sovereign, obtain the sacred flame, and ascend to become the first pyro archon. i've alway found it suspicious that xbalanque was the one who commented on neuvillette's drip marketing that "someday, when they return, their true ordeal shall begin". i feel like him potentially having knowledge of the sovereigns reincarnating hints that he knew more than any human should have.
I mused about this a couple of days ago myself. Mine came more from the direction of the Night Kingdom and its replacement of the Irminsul/leylines The profane path of "evolution" essentially aims to create a new species of humans, dragon-humans. Notice how the existence of Sovereigns, dragonkind and explicit history that was banned in Before Sun and Moon is common knowledge in Natlan. This led me to think that Natlan is not bound to the rules of Celestia and current Celestia does not have much control over Natlan as it has been severed from the Irminsul through their lack of leylines. Celestia cannot punish them for creating a new type of human species. In the sands of the Obsidian Codex, the Sage knew "his long-considered plan would crumble should the everlasting flame reconnect with the roots of the earth." To me this line proves that if the leylines in Natlan were to be restored, Celestia (or some entity that could completely uproot the status quo in Natlan) would destroy what he had created. Then, what exactly is the Night Kingdom, which can not only rival Celestia's will by replacing their ley lines, but also incur no wrath from Celestia itself despite going against what Celestia would want? "Perhaps it was that the gods of the night realm ruled over the underworld, for they were great foes of the Sage in ancient days" How can the Wayob be enemies with the Sage in ancient days if they are clearly working together somewhat in ensuring Celestia has mediocre degrees of control over Natlan? The conclusion I've come to is that the Night Kingdom and Wayob are related to the original Primordial One, the one who showed endless love for humanity before shit hit the fan after the Second Who Came. PO is the only person who Celestia CANNOT simply remove from the equation. This plan for "Evolution" creating a new type of human species that can rival Fate itself is taboo according to Celestia. Yet unlike Fontaine, nothing has been done against the instigator. This must be someone who can rival Celestia, incur none of their wrath, and equally grant permission to alter or create humanity for future benefit. Someone who was around during the ancient age of Dragons, who knew dragons took humans under their wing, who can entirely replace the Irminsul system on their own (so only the PO and the 2nd Descender actually). Someone who can bend the rules of Archonhood, allowing HUMANS to ascend. Who else could hold so much power over even Celestia other than the PO? The one who loved HUMANS the most? Yeah, super crack. Wayob are possibly fragments of the PO or just related to them in some way and I'll die on this hill. The way the Wayob spoke so gently to Kachina, that they were proud of her no matter what. It felt like a creator speaking to their creation. Or a mother to their child.
There must always be a Sovereign of each element. The mark of the Flame Lord could be a sign that one has the potential to ascend to Pyro Sovereign, the reason why most sarians with this mark perish is because their bodies are not able to handle the power. Every Sovereign comes from dragon descendents but not all dragon descentent can ascend into Sovereign. I don't know I'm just spit balling here. Maybe we might get the Neuvillette Treatment here, maybe Capitano could be the next Pyro Sovereign. We haven't seen his eyes and his face, it would explain his long life span. The power he uses could just be a delusion to mask his Pyro powers.
I find it quite interesting that Phlogiston seems to be either fully or just a part of Primal Fire, according to Obsidian codex: "The wisest among dragons traversed the burning plains, carrying the seed split from the primal fire, stepping into a rugged, untamed land." It kinda makes Natlanese people (Yes, that's officially how they're called in the traveler voice-vers) kinda similar to Fontainians, except the primal element is not directly inside them Also, we can almost directly confirm that Pyro Sovereign was Xiuhcoatl thanks to Hanan Pacha book (scroll??): "In some versions of the story, it is said he was none other than Xiuhcoatl himself, but the gods only know what kind of storyteller would make such a mistake. After all, who could forget that the one who defeated Xiuhcoatl was the very first Pyro Archon, Xbalanque himself. How could things have been resolved at a point so early in the story?"
yeah, that's an interesting analogy! a lot of cool ideas to think about with what Narzissenkreuz was doing with primal fire, too.... also oh lmao I totally missed (or just forgot about) that in Hanan Pacha, thanks for pointing that out
@@roozeveltfox With how Phlogiston seems to used to control stuff, i wonder if it was used to learn about how to control Primordial Waters in some sense
I see that I not the only one who has thought about the possibility that Khaenrians were half Vishap people, due to the peculiarity of their pupils. And well, above all what is revealed in Natlan, with each passing day, I believe that the truth of Teyvat is... it was a planet inhabited by intelligent reptiles which was invaded by a super civilization which, upon defeating them, terraformed the place and created the human race... that or the humans were already there but wild and that civilization modified them for... reasons...
For some reason the Khaenri'ahns had the Dark SERPENT Knights. And the Khaenri'ahns definitely had ties with both Nibelung and with Istaroth too (the symbol of Khaenri'ah is Isthar's star), who the sinners probably betrayed (6 pygmies full book series). So yeah, I could very much see Natlan hinting at the true nature of Khaenri'ah
One of the theories I've been thinking about lately is one that suggests Paimon is the manifestation of Traveler's lost power, and that Traveler will have to fuse with her to regain their power. Even if she isn't, it's still possible that this will be necessary later on. So then your idea that Bean (my little guy) and Traveler will become one in order for Traveler to gain Pyro is very fitting. I also think that the theme of "two becoming one" and "one becoming two" is very common in the game. There's a theory of sorts that brings up how every time there is a pair, usually only one remains, and that this applies to the twins because one will die or disappear by the end of the story. I propose another idea based on your theory: that Traveler and their twin are two halves of a whole. Instead of only one remaining, two would unify and become one. This could also tie into the theory that Traveler is the Primordial One. In order to regain their power or take the role they were always meant to be in, they will have to reunite with their other half. Sorry for the conflicting theories lol. I have so many ideas for how Genshin will end and I'm honestly just trying to find any possible ending that won't involve Traveler, their twin, or Paimon dying or being left behind or anything like that. I'm hitting the copium lol.
I hope he makes his return soon, I love Enjou he never fails to make me laugh somehow. I also love how despite him going by Sanka now everyone continues to call him Enjou lmao just thought it was funny
I really want to hear your interpretation as to what we learn in Kinich's story quest, the 3rd Tribal Quest for the Scions of the Canopy and how it all ties into this.
very sussy too because i notice some hilichurls(khaenriah curse) variants are nearly dragon like models (my sample is geo lawachurl have a similar color pattern of geovishap and the horns of it is very similar to azhdaha)
Ashikai with Deshret....Rooze with Kaeya... If Kaeya end up being a reincarnation of Deshret somehow I won't be surprised GREAT now Ajaw is also a Kaeya
@0:55- Okay so that WAS a limited time event, thanks for clearing that up! I did the Enkonomya (sp?) world quest early in the year, and knew there was a 2nd one, I just didn't know it was a limited time event, which stinks! Omg, I totally forgot about that NPC though! No idea what the plan is, but one thing is for certain, I love our little guy companion, but something will probably happen because he can't travel with us permanently.
Wake up, kaeya's mentioned!! Interesting and entertaining as always, my food rasted 2times better with your theories 😂 take care and come back quickly with some other thinfoil hat theories
my immediate thought after reading the sage of the stolen flame's quote about merging two bloodlines (human & dragon) was khaenri'ahn purebloods!! i'm glad you went exactly where i was thinking lol. for the longest time i've had these completely unfounded, delusional thoughts about the 1st inhabitants of khaenri'ah making some sort of pact with nibelung or ultimately being descendants of him, and although that's not confirmed (yet...?), i can't believe they've basically confirmed dragon/human people real. sometimes being delulu pays off... we are one step closer to dragon kaeya. o7
Do you think every sovereign is supposed to rule their own legion/ race of dragons? Like Scylla ruled the Dragonborns who were made out of the power of sea but Neuvillete was supposed to rule them and Xiucoatl also had different tribes of dragons who were adept at using Phlogiston (flame power) while Liyue somehow has primarily geo vishap hatchlings in their territory and we see the primo geovishap use different elements there
One thing I am the most interest/confused about is how future patches will expand the lore of the Pyro dragon and Xbalanque's story, specifically because the namecards in the reputation system for Natlan seem to foreshadow it is much more complicated than "Good human teams up with good dragon to beat up bad dragon" as they both respectively state: (This is all aready in the game) "Natlan: Divine Army - ...Bathed by a hidden sun, Xbalanque's forces advance with unstoppable momentum, He brings all-out war to the world once more, but his goals don't stop there..." - This namecard shows Xbalanque commanding an army under the sun that is in front of him "Natlan: Fiery Dragon - ...Sharer of light, heat, and wisdom, the dragon king awaits the coming visitor in silence beneath returning moonlight. His reawakening is not simply for..." - This one shows the red dragon from the mural patiently waiting for something under seemingly the same sun Edit, thanks to @spieds9994 for mentioning it in their comment The Hanan Pacha scroll directly mentions that: "In some versions of the story, it is said he was none other than Xiuhcoatl himself, but the gods only know what kind of storyteller would make such a mistake. After all, who could forget that the one who defeated Xiuhcoatl was the very first Pyro Archon, Xbalanque himself. How could things have been resolved at a point so early in the story?" Now I don't know about everyone but that version of the legend going around that it was the Pyro Dragon who granted people the use of fire, combined with the description of the name card that seems to depict him, makes me think that, as Simulanka foreshadowed, there are many versions of this story and all of them are true, but in different contexts? What if the original sharer was indeed the Pyro Dragon, but then the Sage wanted to enact his evolution, so they in turn stole the flame somehow and convinced people to turn on the Pyro Dragon and see them as evil, and the wars resulting from him giving the flame to people at large after getting rid of the Sovereign was also a plan of the Evolution? This is just my crackhead theory tbh, but having knowledge form Simulanka, the name cards, and multiple versions of the legend, I am fully expecting the full story to be very heavily perspective biased just as the story of the Simulanka tribes, making it possible for the ancient dragons in this situation being both good and bad at the same time, depending on the perspective and teller
it's true, enjou IS a relatable queen. also i hope they make him playable E: also, "instrumentality to avoid the abyss" *would* track with most of the world and story quests we've dealt with thus far E2: Khaenri'ah loosely means something like "traitor of winds" right? mayhaps that's a point of connection worth considering in relation to the Ring Cycle's premise, seeing as Istaroth seems to have disappeared from history
I thought Sanka was similar to Enjou, but had no direct evidence to say they were the same. I am quite pleased we meet him and confirm that Sanka is Enjou in the Kinich quest. Also: all this merging, evolving, alchemical marriage business reminds me of the end of The Dark Crystal. When that crystal is healed with the shard, the evil Skesis merge with the gentle Uru mystics to become the cosmic travelling Ur-Skeks who return to stars. 🤔
and I'm thinking of zhongli, because.. you know those little dragon statues all around the Qince Village? legend says that those statues almost resemble the true form of morax and all I see is a dragon on the human body like... a humanoid dragon I think?
The durin plot line is tied into this I can FEEL IT (but not articulate other than like maybe the “merging of bloodlines” and his possible resurrection and playable status? Like make him half dragon half man or smth so he’s vaguely humanoid for playability?
Wait- Now that i think about it, Pacal says that the ones that embarked on the journey to free their saurian companions of the mark never made it back.... but Ngoubou's description makes it seem like he came back indeed- although with no happy ending. But what about the human? if no human made it back- does this mean that the ritual is for the dragon to absorb the human? and no human came back because they were absorbed? Obviously it can't happen to us, but what if we end up absorbing our little companion- i don't want thattttt
The first guy that mated with a surian 💀 *i- i dont know what happened last thing i knew my surain dug inside the ground while i dug into him* ಠ ͜ʖ ಠ *My surian shoot its spider web to move like spiderman while i shot mine inside it* ಠ ͜ʖ ಠ *My surian dived deep into the water while i dived deep into it* ಠ ͜ʖ ಠ
I still believe that literal human ''evolution'' is a bad idea, like what if this human dragon mix got problem like fontaine people before cleansed by neuvelette, or the stone statue people during fortuna era
The idea about evolution is really double sided like a coin, Rene said only with evolutions and merging all Will of Fontaine people can surpass of fate. What if the Sage tryin to combine The will of Human and a dragon to combat those of Abyys. the song of Natlan about resurrection is like combining everyone into one will to resurrect those who died in the night trial. Just like our mc traveling to tevyat witnessing everything and remembering everything, because he's a vessel to those will ( evolution to combat erosion/ abyysal will ). About the Eye, if you were correctly that only through evolution even dragon can become human, and khaenriah having star shaped eyes is it because they dwells in the border between the abyys and tevyat for far too long or they were the descendants of those survivors from 2nd war? Nibelung and evolve so they can harness the power of the abyys. From the Mural we only saw one within the irminsul is Save while the one outside irminsul perish, what if those who perish is khaenriahn ancestral. We never saw People from tevyat having star shaped eyes tho, only those who stayed in khaenriah have those eyes ( pure blooded or half )
Are you sure that is Enjou? I took him to be Dottore because he says that the traveller must work extra hard and that he is not from there to the kids. Dottore would also be interested in the dragon sovereign powers
@@ЧеловекЧеловек-о9ю I'm not seeing the Enjou bit. I mean would he travel from Enkanomiya to Natlan to ask a bunch of kids about sacred flame? Dottore needs a closure and he has appeared as different people before Enjou has not.
do you ever think that maybe arlecchino's pupils are meant to look like a sideways rotated khaenri'ah pupil... an x and a four-pointed star aren't THAT different in shape.
Ok, if the eye differences denote an evolutionary step, then does the billion characters with unique eyes (Mualani, Hu Tao, etc) signs of evolution or simply evolutionary mutations?
13:10 anyone knows which quest is this cutscene where the traveler looked up? i dont remember seeing this part lol edit: 15:38 ohh it's this quest, i see i see
Shadows of the Mountains, the one with the Shadow Pins and Titu. Once you have uhhh three obsidian fragments you can also access a dark-stadium area with the cat as well
edit: CCs are uppies
Enjou looked at whatever the Abyss Order was cooking and decided to respectfully look away and become a massive nerd instead
You go king
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He really said "nope i ain't doing all that" lmao
he's so real
Enjou is my absolute favorite NPC in the game, I'm so glad he's back!
Now I'm on the same boat as you, that little guy and the traveler will fuse as one as that's how we get pyro traveler.....
would it mean that saurians have fragments of pyro sovereign's power?
@@ЧеловекЧеловек-о9ю the flame lord blessing is from the pyro sovereign! that is little buddy's curse
Im skeptical of that because the little tepetlisaur is part of the world quest, and I think the primal fire will be what gets the traveler his power
No please not that I don't want Little Buddy to disappear 😢.
no.. I will not eat Rockie...
Enjou is just a massive WWII history nerd for genshin
He also hasnt touchec grass sind the cataclysm 😂
He's just based like that.
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Oh my, I didn't remember those light novels plots. Miko going "This is a human society - at the moment, anyway -" sounding more sus than ever. Is it weird that I don't find this evolution theory cracked at all?
And I cannot express how happy I was to see Enjou again.
YEAH i think you also have to make certain selections to actually learn those plotlines so it'd be very easy to miss. I didn't even know about it, I was just trying to look up something about the three realms event... which was the same patch!!
I looove Enjou I'm so happy to see him again
Bro enjou has much more personality than a lot of the characters ,the dude must be turned into a playable character
21:05 since the theatre came out and the witches name dropped the nephilims as an half human half divine civilization I'm convinced that those were kanri'ahns
Hence why they don't need any god, as they are divine themselves
And if different pupils= different "species of human" this checks outs
Humanoid saurians have vertical eyes
Humanoid gods have star shaped eyes
So Khaenri'ans are just human and god in one?
@@julesgarcia7406 yeah I've been thinking about that quite a lot.
Deinsleif has some strange power that could be related to the abyss
But in Natlan we have seen how toxic can that be, aside from that arlecchino bloodline as well had special abilities
In addition to that kanri'ah was really developed thanks to their technology and alchemy but so far we've seen that to be able to do such things in teyvat you can't be just a normal human, something is boiling down there
Well, actually, the nephilim is half human and half fallen angels, not half gods (demi gods/ half humans and half god)
@@shenitasanderson5129 technically Celestia IS an alien authority, as out of teyvat
And the traveler as well could be classified as Aliens.
If I'm not mistaken I think that the Archon/Celestia themselves are especially described as aliens somewhere in the texts
@@shenitasanderson5129 I mean...the archons have ars goeatia names, which we could classify as fallen angel
+ We don't really have anything explicitly correlated to Christian iconology so the terms angel could really be anything heaven related
In any case it's something that is neither human nor completely divine
Enjou,my beloved,I was so happy to see you!!! Why can't we just hang out with Enjou? Sitting in his Abyssal library and occasionally traveling to dig out some juicy lore
Arlecchino's eyes are pretty simple actually, you just need to overlay them with the other established eyes of Khaenri'ahns, and boom, you get the 8 pointed Star seen on Khaenri'ahn clothing, it's the 2 different dynasties.
Neuvillette in general made me suspicious of many pre-existing characters, not only in his unique pupils but also his ears.
Like, whats up with elf ears in Genshin?
WARNING!!! This got really long and tangent-y!!! I have been thinking about some of these things for a long time but only now have they become extremely relevant and also have more evidence to support it.
Feel free to make your own conclusions it's just a lot of overlapping ideas that I don't see talked about.
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Characters with animal-like features such as ears or horns have been likened to Liyue's Illuminated Beasts a couple of times. But a lot of them are probably more akin to Ganyu or especially Yanfei, Diona or Tighnari come to mind. Inazuma seems to be a bit more like Liyue with the Yokai, off the top of my head the only exception I can think of is Gorou and maybe Kujo Sara?
Anyways my point is is that most (key word is most, I'm looking at you Ei) "non-human" characters get somewhat of an explanation, accept for one group of characters, the ones with elf ears.
The overarching idea here is that the "non-human" looking characters are descendants of Illuminated Beasts who took humanoid shape and mated with humans, and the same idea is being established in Natlan with Dragons.
There are a surprising amount of myths about this exact thing, and it's now starting to be explicit within Genshin's narrative wich is uh... okay I guess I didn't think they would actually talk about this but this is just what's happening now.
Klee is stated to be from a "race with long longevity" but we've never been told much about this despite how many characters share this trait, nor have we been given a name for said race. With 2 of these characters being a part of Natlan's main story quest I can't help but wonder if this has anything to deal with dragons. Especially with the emphasis put on Chasca and her backstory, a lot of it seems very suspicious. Iansan was also the first Natlan character we were introduced to.
One of the other first things we learned about Natlan was about Venessa and the people of Murata, putting a huge emphasis on characters with bright red hair since they were exiled and most likely spread out into different places, unlike pure blooded Kaenri'ahns who mostly stayed in one place. Maybe this also happened with the "elves."
Also Nahida has elf ears AND unique pupils (although could just be a design choice not lore like Hu Tao) but I think that maybe there's a possibility that the "avatar of Irminsil" has more ties to actual land of Teyvat than we thought. Nahida shares traits both associated with dragons (ie Neuvilette's pointed ears) and the Heavenly Pricipals (expy of Theresa who is a clone of a Kaslana. I don't want to get into why Kaslana traits have links to the Heavenly Pricipals since this is about Genshin but its more about the link to the Sustainer of Heavinly principals who looks like Kiana and a heavy emphasis on the moon being linked to the white /silver hair especially. So just look at the physical appearance and don't worry about lore.)
What this incredibly long tangent is getting to is that I think half dragon people are actually spread around everywhere, possibly as a form of survival or something, and I'm sure there's something to be said about Seeles too, having horns and all and also having pale skin and hair and ties to the moon sisters and ugh there's just too much.
TL;DR what's with these magic animals mating with humans what's up with that, also Alice drives me crazy with everything she says or does, please help.
Oh my god I forgot about Xianyun's story quest it is literally the most explicit there okay bye.
very interesting idea!! now that i read this, i always found it weird/interesting that the Alberichs don't have any (seemingly) elf traits despite their name meaning "king of the elves" plus, not to mention their ties to faeries and by extension--- seelies. (alberich became oberon over time, who's the king of the faeries in Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream") if elves could be half dragon people then where does that leave pureblood khaenri'ahns? it's so weird how we keep getting characters in genshin with elf ears but there's just no explanation for it.... hopefully we get more answers with chasca.
Wow! I didn't know that about the Alberichs and that makes this idea of elves=dragon people even more interesting!
Also just remembered that this idea even extends a bit to Honkai Star Rail with Dan Heng and his "Imbibitor Lunae" design, although I don't know much about Star Rail so it's a purely physical observation.
Ofc the one character this idea does not apply to is Zhongli, further adding credence to the idea that he is purely some kind of Adeptus and isn't lying about that or anything, although that one form of his is suspiciously hooded, and he is able to change forms as we know but who knows what's going on with that guy.
Elf ears and "dragon" just seems to be a running idea with Hoyo.
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do you think it's possible the sage could've attempted merging human and dragon together already by merging with xbalanque himself? and that's why xbalanque was able to defeat the pyro sovereign, obtain the sacred flame, and ascend to become the first pyro archon. i've alway found it suspicious that xbalanque was the one who commented on neuvillette's drip marketing that "someday, when they return, their true ordeal shall begin". i feel like him potentially having knowledge of the sovereigns reincarnating hints that he knew more than any human should have.
and it would also partially explain how xbalanque could have won the archon war without being a god
I mused about this a couple of days ago myself. Mine came more from the direction of the Night Kingdom and its replacement of the Irminsul/leylines
The profane path of "evolution" essentially aims to create a new species of humans, dragon-humans. Notice how the existence of Sovereigns, dragonkind and explicit history that was banned in Before Sun and Moon is common knowledge in Natlan. This led me to think that Natlan is not bound to the rules of Celestia and current Celestia does not have much control over Natlan as it has been severed from the Irminsul through their lack of leylines. Celestia cannot punish them for creating a new type of human species.
In the sands of the Obsidian Codex, the Sage knew "his long-considered plan would crumble should the everlasting flame reconnect with the roots of the earth." To me this line proves that if the leylines in Natlan were to be restored, Celestia (or some entity that could completely uproot the status quo in Natlan) would destroy what he had created. Then, what exactly is the Night Kingdom, which can not only rival Celestia's will by replacing their ley lines, but also incur no wrath from Celestia itself despite going against what Celestia would want?
"Perhaps it was that the gods of the night realm ruled over the underworld, for they were great foes of the Sage in ancient days" How can the Wayob be enemies with the Sage in ancient days if they are clearly working together somewhat in ensuring Celestia has mediocre degrees of control over Natlan? The conclusion I've come to is that the Night Kingdom and Wayob are related to the original Primordial One, the one who showed endless love for humanity before shit hit the fan after the Second Who Came. PO is the only person who Celestia CANNOT simply remove from the equation.
This plan for "Evolution" creating a new type of human species that can rival Fate itself is taboo according to Celestia. Yet unlike Fontaine, nothing has been done against the instigator. This must be someone who can rival Celestia, incur none of their wrath, and equally grant permission to alter or create humanity for future benefit. Someone who was around during the ancient age of Dragons, who knew dragons took humans under their wing, who can entirely replace the Irminsul system on their own (so only the PO and the 2nd Descender actually). Someone who can bend the rules of Archonhood, allowing HUMANS to ascend. Who else could hold so much power over even Celestia other than the PO? The one who loved HUMANS the most?
Yeah, super crack. Wayob are possibly fragments of the PO or just related to them in some way and I'll die on this hill. The way the Wayob spoke so gently to Kachina, that they were proud of her no matter what. It felt like a creator speaking to their creation. Or a mother to their child.
There must always be a Sovereign of each element. The mark of the Flame Lord could be a sign that one has the potential to ascend to Pyro Sovereign, the reason why most sarians with this mark perish is because their bodies are not able to handle the power. Every Sovereign comes from dragon descendents but not all dragon descentent can ascend into Sovereign.
I don't know I'm just spit balling here. Maybe we might get the Neuvillette Treatment here, maybe Capitano could be the next Pyro Sovereign. We haven't seen his eyes and his face, it would explain his long life span. The power he uses could just be a delusion to mask his Pyro powers.
@@Hui-kv8xm I'm aware he has blue eyes. My question is "Does he have Slited eyes just like Neuvillette and Morax?"
Got that Kaeya Crack ❤also the merging idea made a surprising amount of sense
I find it quite interesting that Phlogiston seems to be either fully or just a part of Primal Fire, according to Obsidian codex:
"The wisest among dragons traversed the burning plains, carrying the seed split from the primal fire, stepping into a rugged, untamed land."
It kinda makes Natlanese people (Yes, that's officially how they're called in the traveler voice-vers) kinda similar to Fontainians, except the primal element is not directly inside them
Also, we can almost directly confirm that Pyro Sovereign was Xiuhcoatl thanks to Hanan Pacha book (scroll??):
"In some versions of the story, it is said he was none other than Xiuhcoatl himself, but the gods only know what kind of storyteller would make such a mistake. After all, who could forget that the one who defeated Xiuhcoatl was the very first Pyro Archon, Xbalanque himself. How could things have been resolved at a point so early in the story?"
yeah, that's an interesting analogy! a lot of cool ideas to think about with what Narzissenkreuz was doing with primal fire, too....
also oh lmao I totally missed (or just forgot about) that in Hanan Pacha, thanks for pointing that out
@@roozeveltfox With how Phlogiston seems to used to control stuff, i wonder if it was used to learn about how to control Primordial Waters in some sense
I see that I not the only one who has thought about the possibility that Khaenrians were half Vishap people, due to the peculiarity of their pupils.
And well, above all what is revealed in Natlan, with each passing day, I believe that the truth of Teyvat is... it was a planet inhabited by intelligent reptiles which was invaded by a super civilization which, upon defeating them, terraformed the place and created the human race... that or the humans were already there but wild and that civilization modified them for... reasons...
Kinich canopy quest just dropped, its just hilarious lmaoo i think u all enjou fans will be pleased
For some reason the Khaenri'ahns had the Dark SERPENT Knights. And the Khaenri'ahns definitely had ties with both Nibelung and with Istaroth too (the symbol of Khaenri'ah is Isthar's star), who the sinners probably betrayed (6 pygmies full book series).
So yeah, I could very much see Natlan hinting at the true nature of Khaenri'ah
One of the theories I've been thinking about lately is one that suggests Paimon is the manifestation of Traveler's lost power, and that Traveler will have to fuse with her to regain their power. Even if she isn't, it's still possible that this will be necessary later on. So then your idea that Bean (my little guy) and Traveler will become one in order for Traveler to gain Pyro is very fitting.
I also think that the theme of "two becoming one" and "one becoming two" is very common in the game. There's a theory of sorts that brings up how every time there is a pair, usually only one remains, and that this applies to the twins because one will die or disappear by the end of the story. I propose another idea based on your theory: that Traveler and their twin are two halves of a whole. Instead of only one remaining, two would unify and become one. This could also tie into the theory that Traveler is the Primordial One. In order to regain their power or take the role they were always meant to be in, they will have to reunite with their other half.
Sorry for the conflicting theories lol. I have so many ideas for how Genshin will end and I'm honestly just trying to find any possible ending that won't involve Traveler, their twin, or Paimon dying or being left behind or anything like that. I'm hitting the copium lol.
Lets be honest- Enjou represents the Lore community of this game
I hope he makes his return soon, I love Enjou he never fails to make me laugh somehow. I also love how despite him going by Sanka now everyone continues to call him Enjou lmao just thought it was funny
He's gonna appear in Mare Jivari too I think since Kinich mentions him being interested in that area too.
Glad to see my "khaenria'hns are possibly dragons/hybrids" crack being brought up or implied
I really want to hear your interpretation as to what we learn in Kinich's story quest, the 3rd Tribal Quest for the Scions of the Canopy and how it all ties into this.
very sussy too because i notice some hilichurls(khaenriah curse) variants are nearly dragon like models (my sample is geo lawachurl have a similar color pattern of geovishap and the horns of it is very similar to azhdaha)
CRAZY I WAS JUST REWATCHING YOU LETS GOOOOOOO
Always love your crack theories. Can't wait to see your take on Kinich's story quest!
Ashikai with Deshret....Rooze with Kaeya...
If Kaeya end up being a reincarnation of Deshret somehow I won't be surprised
GREAT now Ajaw is also a Kaeya
Trogdor reference. Instantly best lore video.
@0:55- Okay so that WAS a limited time event, thanks for clearing that up! I did the Enkonomya (sp?) world quest early in the year, and knew there was a 2nd one, I just didn't know it was a limited time event, which stinks! Omg, I totally forgot about that NPC though!
No idea what the plan is, but one thing is for certain, I love our little guy companion, but something will probably happen because he can't travel with us permanently.
Wake up, kaeya's mentioned!! Interesting and entertaining as always, my food rasted 2times better with your theories 😂 take care and come back quickly with some other thinfoil hat theories
my immediate thought after reading the sage of the stolen flame's quote about merging two bloodlines (human & dragon) was khaenri'ahn purebloods!! i'm glad you went exactly where i was thinking lol. for the longest time i've had these completely unfounded, delusional thoughts about the 1st inhabitants of khaenri'ah making some sort of pact with nibelung or ultimately being descendants of him, and although that's not confirmed (yet...?), i can't believe they've basically confirmed dragon/human people real. sometimes being delulu pays off... we are one step closer to dragon kaeya. o7
Do you think every sovereign is supposed to rule their own legion/ race of dragons?
Like Scylla ruled the Dragonborns who were made out of the power of sea but Neuvillete was supposed to rule them and Xiucoatl also had different tribes of dragons who were adept at using Phlogiston (flame power) while Liyue somehow has primarily geo vishap hatchlings in their territory and we see the primo geovishap use different elements there
Ksha- be- lankae
Xi- oooh- coat- al
One thing I am the most interest/confused about is how future patches will expand the lore of the Pyro dragon and Xbalanque's story, specifically because the namecards in the reputation system for Natlan seem to foreshadow it is much more complicated than "Good human teams up with good dragon to beat up bad dragon" as they both respectively state:
(This is all aready in the game)
"Natlan: Divine Army - ...Bathed by a hidden sun, Xbalanque's forces advance with unstoppable momentum, He brings all-out war to the world once more, but his goals don't stop there..." - This namecard shows Xbalanque commanding an army under the sun that is in front of him
"Natlan: Fiery Dragon - ...Sharer of light, heat, and wisdom, the dragon king awaits the coming visitor in silence beneath returning moonlight. His reawakening is not simply for..." - This one shows the red dragon from the mural patiently waiting for something under seemingly the same sun
Edit, thanks to @spieds9994 for mentioning it in their comment
The Hanan Pacha scroll directly mentions that:
"In some versions of the story, it is said he was none other than Xiuhcoatl himself, but the gods only know what kind of storyteller would make such a mistake. After all, who could forget that the one who defeated Xiuhcoatl was the very first Pyro Archon, Xbalanque himself. How could things have been resolved at a point so early in the story?"
Now I don't know about everyone but that version of the legend going around that it was the Pyro Dragon who granted people the use of fire, combined with the description of the name card that seems to depict him, makes me think that, as Simulanka foreshadowed, there are many versions of this story and all of them are true, but in different contexts?
What if the original sharer was indeed the Pyro Dragon, but then the Sage wanted to enact his evolution, so they in turn stole the flame somehow and convinced people to turn on the Pyro Dragon and see them as evil, and the wars resulting from him giving the flame to people at large after getting rid of the Sovereign was also a plan of the Evolution? This is just my crackhead theory tbh, but having knowledge form Simulanka, the name cards, and multiple versions of the legend, I am fully expecting the full story to be very heavily perspective biased just as the story of the Simulanka tribes, making it possible for the ancient dragons in this situation being both good and bad at the same time, depending on the perspective and teller
“Many of you might remember Enjo as-"
O-Oh I totally did betay them 🤓☝️
Great video! This all is reminding me of your video on "the cosmic man." Dualties becoming one spells out dark stuff for the travelers. 🧐
yes yes yes yes yes yes !!!!!!! (edit: also ty!!!)
it's true, enjou IS a relatable queen. also i hope they make him playable
E: also, "instrumentality to avoid the abyss" *would* track with most of the world and story quests we've dealt with thus far
E2: Khaenri'ah loosely means something like "traitor of winds" right? mayhaps that's a point of connection worth considering in relation to the Ring Cycle's premise, seeing as Istaroth seems to have disappeared from history
Going to watch now and see if this video will be similar to what im thinking after i did the saurian quest yesterday.
A new human race?? involving dragons?? Celestia would like to know your location.
this makes sense because back in fontaine we stood no chance against arlecchino so for the upcoming nations we need a lil upgrade to succeed
I thought Sanka was similar to Enjou, but had no direct evidence to say they were the same. I am quite pleased we meet him and confirm that Sanka is Enjou in the Kinich quest.
Also: all this merging, evolving, alchemical marriage business reminds me of the end of The Dark Crystal. When that crystal is healed with the shard, the evil Skesis merge with the gentle Uru mystics to become the cosmic travelling Ur-Skeks who return to stars. 🤔
Another playable Dragon Sovereign 🙏
I'm listening to this while I make breakfast and thought I heard "burnenating the country side" I rewound it and omg 😂 HOME⭐️🏃
and I'm thinking of zhongli, because.. you know those little dragon statues all around the Qince Village? legend says that those statues almost resemble the true form of morax and all I see is a dragon on the human body like... a humanoid dragon I think?
tbh i didnt remotely understand anything from the video cuz im me, im just here for the madness, happy thursday
My lil guy Saurian is named Lil’Bungo he’s a special boi ❤
I love how we learn every content creator's name for their little one when they make a video on natlan ! mine is kinako
it’s like you know i was about to go to bed 😭 alright, i’ll put the kettle on for this one
The durin plot line is tied into this I can FEEL IT (but not articulate other than like maybe the “merging of bloodlines” and his possible resurrection and playable status? Like make him half dragon half man or smth so he’s vaguely humanoid for playability?
Yae Miko teasing the plot is so good.
Wait-
Now that i think about it, Pacal says that the ones that embarked on the journey to free their saurian companions of the mark never made it back.... but Ngoubou's description makes it seem like he came back indeed- although with no happy ending. But what about the human? if no human made it back- does this mean that the ritual is for the dragon to absorb the human? and no human came back because they were absorbed?
Obviously it can't happen to us, but what if we end up absorbing our little companion- i don't want thattttt
unrelated to the theory but i love the little guy is named just john .
Lady! We tune in for the crack! I need my fix!!!
Everybodies so creative lol love that lady.
This sounds like the plot of Drakengard 2 where Nowe and Legna fuse to defeat the old gods..
Gotta feeling that enjou gonna be against the abyss and us eventually
Nice Trogdor reference, there. 😉😆
So finally we can remember all our characters with wishap eyes? :3
Shinobu, Chongyun, Baizhu (Dehya & Cyno as well?)
I didn't have trogdor reference on my 2024 genshin lore bingo card
Glad I'm not the only one who still thinks about the _other_ HSR.
you did a great jooorrrb out there
The first guy that mated with a surian 💀
*i- i dont know what happened last thing i knew my surain dug inside the ground while i dug into him* ಠ ͜ʖ ಠ
*My surian shoot its spider web to move like spiderman while i shot mine inside it* ಠ ͜ʖ ಠ
*My surian dived deep into the water while i dived deep into it* ಠ ͜ʖ ಠ
imagine if this is the way we get pyro traveler
WELP time to speedrun some quests
Trogdor reference! 🤩
what if we merge with little guy we finally get the pyro elemental powers?
I still believe that literal human ''evolution'' is a bad idea, like what if this human dragon mix got problem like fontaine people before cleansed by neuvelette, or the stone statue people during fortuna era
Girllll who is Jabalonkey? 😭😭😭
Ничего не поняла, но кажется там что-то про Кэйю, так что лайк однозначно
may I please praise how gorgeous is this 2:16 shot? it's so beautiful I kinda didn't pay my full attention to anything else but kaeya
I Hope that mean my dream to have genshin waifu with a dragon trait is not just pipe dream after all
playing the new tribe quest you the fusing thing was kinda right
The idea about evolution is really double sided like a coin, Rene said only with evolutions and merging all Will of Fontaine people can surpass of fate. What if the Sage tryin to combine The will of Human and a dragon to combat those of Abyys. the song of Natlan about resurrection is like combining everyone into one will to resurrect those who died in the night trial. Just like our mc traveling to tevyat witnessing everything and remembering everything, because he's a vessel to those will ( evolution to combat erosion/ abyysal will ).
About the Eye, if you were correctly that only through evolution even dragon can become human, and khaenriah having star shaped eyes is it because they dwells in the border between the abyys and tevyat for far too long or they were the descendants of those survivors from 2nd war? Nibelung and evolve so they can harness the power of the abyys. From the Mural we only saw one within the irminsul is Save while the one outside irminsul perish, what if those who perish is khaenriahn ancestral. We never saw People from tevyat having star shaped eyes tho, only those who stayed in khaenriah have those eyes ( pure blooded or half )
Obligatory kaeya mention 🎉
Was that a shoutout to homestarrunner?!
Are you sure that is Enjou? I took him to be Dottore because he says that the traveller must work extra hard and that he is not from there to the kids. Dottore would also be interested in the dragon sovereign powers
I'll have a crack theory now that Enjou is Dottore😈
@@ЧеловекЧеловек-о9ю I'm not seeing the Enjou bit. I mean would he travel from Enkanomiya to Natlan to ask a bunch of kids about sacred flame? Dottore needs a closure and he has appeared as different people before Enjou has not.
do you ever think that maybe arlecchino's pupils are meant to look like a sideways rotated khaenri'ah pupil... an x and a four-pointed star aren't THAT different in shape.
Enjou my goat
Wait how was the pyro sovereign alive when the humans were alive? I thought the Primordial One wiped the dragons before humans were created
It was stated that some were killed, some escaped to Dark Sea and some remained on surface (Apep). Although all their authorities were stolen
Dendro hitting hard huh?
WHAT!!
Ok, if the eye differences denote an evolutionary step, then does the billion characters with unique eyes (Mualani, Hu Tao, etc) signs of evolution or simply evolutionary mutations?
13:10 anyone knows which quest is this cutscene where the traveler looked up? i dont remember seeing this part lol
edit: 15:38 ohh it's this quest, i see i see
How's the storytelling in Natlan?
Mrwalkhisgrandmadowntotheendsoftheabyss
Real name: Sanka
Im like number 999 lets go
The tyrant is Capitano?
LORE FOOD
What quest is the talking cat? I don't remember doing that in natlan
Shadows of the Mountains, the one with the Shadow Pins and Titu. Once you have uhhh three obsidian fragments you can also access a dark-stadium area with the cat as well
I just have to know. Is the Little One's last name "Lee"??
lets goooo we. early
john? 😂😅😅
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Yae novels are just fairy tales! In Genshin's world...
HERE SECOND!!!
okay ik no one really cares but Xblanque's name is pronounced *Sha-Blawn-Kay* !!!!
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yae miko spoiling the story years ago 😭
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