Congrats Marques, the steering wheel buttons stress me daily.... should have placed the blinkers like Ferrari does, and some more buttons on the back of the steering wheel that could be customized, forward, reverse, etc...
@@DragTimes but isn’t this something that could be fixed by an aftermarket supplier? Although of course it should be an option from Tesla themselves, to be able to specify stalks or no stalks or have another version of the wheel with more tactile button differentiation.
The tesla steering "wheel" looks good, but is dangerous as fuck. The classic round steering wheel is a better design because it enables you to grab the steering wheel from any angle. Its more accessible, especially when you need to quickly grab the wheel with both hands to do a last munite maneuver to avoid something.
@@WilliamHelstad f1 has 360 degrees of lock this has 1080 the steering wheel on the plaid is a handful at low speeds in f1 you can turn 90 degrees and that’s full lock
BMW driver stereotype: never uses a signal while changing lanes. Tesla driver stereotype: turns on both signals, the windshield wipers, honks the horn and turns on the radio while making a turn
The thing is people don't notice when a the driver in a Ford Fiesta doesn't signal and you just don't remember it, but everyone notices anyone in a luxury car making a mistake.
Actually they are the best thing. While driving you don't want to be going threw menus etc, it's dangerous. You should be able to click something fast and easy. Car computers are stupid and on top of that they make the electric wiring of the car very complicated and the car overall more prone to electrical issues with all kind of things going wrong, from censors top chips etc. The less you have the better. My proposal is all manufacturers should put all basic factions in buttons and instead of putting an entertainment unit they should just have an adjustable space on the main console were you can put a smartphone or even a tablet and have it connect with the car and it's speakers etc and be able to use that. They can have an app for the car that they update etc.
@@SIPEROTH Couldn't have said it better Kinda a deal breaker for me Same thing with the first manned SpaceX Launch Rocket can't see any button only one big ass screen it feel to cartoonish for me
Me as a broke and poor person that I can't afford a bicycle, watching carefully the video of Marques and very worried about the steering wheel problem :)
I expect 3rd party steering wheels being real popular to combat a lot of these yoke and touch button issues. If they can be retrofitted and function 100%.
Theres gotta be a way to pull it off, the issue would be tricking Tesla's software though. But it wouldnt be the first battle fought on the side of consumers against Tesla trying to control that sorta thing from what I understand lol, to varying levels of success
Cannot imagine turning my "wheel" 200 degrees for a round-a-bout then having to find the turn signals for exiting the round-a-bout. Mind-boggling design.
Ikr it's ridiculous. And people are *actually* going to buy this car and they might be brainwash into liking it.... (I know not *everything* about the car is bad, but a lot of it is *severely* poorly designed. Well most their cars are I guess but this is just ridiculous.)
I doubt this steering wheel is even legal in Norway. The turn signal in a roundabout was my first thought when I saw the blinker buttons. I've struggled with that in Euro Truck Simulator with my G27 wheel and the physical buttons on it for turn signals. Also, going from this car to my other cars and vice versa is going to be a challenge if I was to get one
@@Autunite The first thing I thought was "fuck, it's like having to relearn indicators in ETS2" I ended up remapping the paddle shifts to left and right indicators, and using the H-shifter and a couple of the buttons on the shifter assembly as splitters.
Yokes aren’t supposed to need such angles of turning. It’s supposed to be able to do most turns with 90 degrees turns, so your hands always stay on the grip. The issue with that car is that they put a yoke on a standard steering rack.
I think the yoke its self is fine as well and it's the buttons that are a problem. The big one for me is the horn. The horn is something that you need to be able to use in an instant. I can think of many times where I was cut off and if I honked a second later, I would of been hit.
I drove Model S Plaid 2 weeks ago and I can confirm it's absolutely as wild as Marques says. You feel like you're blasting into space every time you floor it.
You are the only RUclipsr who suggested that the horn should have been on the airbag cover in the middle of the steering. That was my exact thought when I first saw a review of the model s plaid.
Or at least easy to reach with your thumb. I mean if he can't reach the thing, none of us can lol. There's been plenty of cars over the years with the horn button placed off like this, but I've never seen it out of reach. Pretty counterintuitive.
@@kzero1499 Agreed. When you need the horn it's not rarely a matter of fractions of a second, it's urgent, the faster you can get to the horn the better. It can literally in some cases save lives. This solution with a hard-to-reach touch button likely adds a second or even more to the total time before you can sound the horn. I feel it's kind if a dangerous choice Tesla made. The other touch buttons, while not intuitive, is more of an annoyance type problem rather than potentially a dangerous one.
That's where RTFM helps, they actually made covering the entire right touchpanel trigger the horn too. But interestingly, cutting the upper steering was made to improve the visiblity of the gauges... but they didn't cut it to see properly the main/big screen?
@@mannydcbianco Definitely. I had an old NA Miata and they placed the horn buttons on both sides of the wheel right next to your thumb and it was actually pretty great when you needed the horn asap, it's literally right there don't even have to adjust your hand placement. Tesla dropped the ball here. I'm also worried about the 'phantom wheel' as he pointed out. I can easily imagine in an emergency, even after getting used to the yoke, people will still go to grab for things that are no longer there and cause issues.
Honesty and sharing the unbiased own view is key in success and retaining credibility. And this is why i love your videos/reviews so much! Exceptional work...over and over again!! Keep it on. Greetings from Switzerland
Actually, most people who have now used Yoke love it, they don't want to go back to wheel....but almost all have same issues with "touch" buttons like MB
@@archigoel i think partially for loving it so much are novelty factor and brand loyalty. Cos i dont think making a u turn in this thing would be half as nice as on a circle wheel but again i could be wrong
That steering wheel with the touch only buttons is the worst interface I've seen since the blackberry storm 9530, or the Thinkpad t440p where they removed the physical mouse buttons. edit: 17:30 oh god I didn't finish the video yet! I called it, blackberry storm. That is storm 9530 lag right there!
@100 years ago Also there are better EVs, just because you don't know doesn't mean they do not exist. They are either too expensive (porsche taycan), or poorly marketed(Mach-E), or no marketing at all (Toyota bZ4X)
Yoke aside, the touch-activated controls is a deal breaker for me. What a shitty thing to do, put touch buttons on an area where your thumbs might accidentally hit while turning the wheel.
@@RyoHazuki224 Tesla is doing it the Apple way, giving a huge middle finger to every consumer "We dont care what you want". They just want to cut costs. It's cheaper to have less parts and have everything just controlled via a PCB board and electronics and possibly a touchscreen, rather than physical parts for that. It has the only upside, that theoretically less can break. That only comes to play though, when you build shitty quality. The clear downside is, it decreases safety cause you often have to look where you touch a button, so you take your eyes off the street, and the other downside is, once one tiny part breaks, you cant fix it, you have to replace the whole thing. As it was shown in RichRebuilds where they guy was told by tesla he had to buy a whole new battery pack for 16 grand because some tiny part for the cooling broke after being hit by debris on the street. Yeah Environment! Elon is so full of shit.
The horn should be the easiest "button" to hit, having to reach that button in an awkward position could cost a life. I thought that was regulated and changing the position was illegal.
@@jonvanbrunning4294 But the customer shouldn't be expected to read the owner's manual. The horn should be the most intuitive part of the car. The majority of customers aren't going to read the owner's manual, and in a life or death situation, the horn should be intuitive
When Marques starts talking about the yoke I'm like "ah, I could get used to it, and the horn in it has a big and nice "horn space" in the middle" and 5 minutes later I'm like "oh no, no, what have they done??"
Yeah, I've had these same concerns. Yoke - can get used to that. Capacitive buttons - not happy about that. No massive horn button - that's just a bad call and unsafe.
@Nekrasov my 99 mercedes did not have a horn in the traditional middle spot. It instead had two buttons on either side of the wheel so you can honk easily without having to take your hands off the wheel.
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SAAB tried replacing the steering wheel in a prototype callerd the Prometheus with a joystick control in the late 80s/early 90s.....suffist to say it mever made it to market
I dont have the car and will probably never own it yet I watched the whole video lol first thought check it the car out but ended up listening to him for a while
Why are we commenting like he doesn’t run the page and see these 👀😂 I agree totally though.. he is vulnerable and explains his thoughts real time with in depth commentary. Very personable and makes it feel like he’s just talking to you individually
@@Natemoney15 If he had around 35k subs like me he'd probably see the comment. With near 15 million subs... he probably only sees an extremely small portion of the comments
The thing about classic wheel with stalks is I can indicate, use the horn and wipers immediately regardless of the steering wheel position. Not being able to do any of these at an instant is alarming.
I’ve used a car horn maybe 2 times in the 16 years i’m on the road. Too much people think it’s a “wrong answer” button from a tv show or something. But i agree that that yoke is a mistake.
@@Engineer9736 if you live in a city that horn literally saves lives. Il feel so unsafe driving a car without a horn button I can instinctively press. Safety not for myself but for the millions of pedestrians.
@@TheVoltaire1 exactly! sometimes you *need* to honk at someone, it’s literally a safety feature. not being able to get to the horn instantly, without looking down, is a huge issue
Dude the present day is insaaane. These days and even more in the future, we'll be like "how fast does your car go?" "163 MPH but it will get increased to 200 MPH the next software update"
My neighbor has one of these, and gave me a ride today. It’s absolutely INSANE. I think the interior is awesome, the yoke is so-so, but otherwise the tech is amazing. Not to mention it’s incredibly quick. I felt the blood shifting to the back of my body. You can pull a G on a public road. THAT is madness.
Exactly. People who haven’t driven/ridden in one don’t understand. Even if you’re experienced on the dragstrip, you have done low 9s on the STREET. It’s just fucking madness.
@@GoFast865 I think most of them do understand. Digital watches are more accurate but the non-digital watch industry is still a multi billion dollar industry for a reason.
@@Oxibase nowhere near as many though, and he’s right that would be very difficult to do on the yolk. Already know this from trying to skip tracks or change volume while going round corners
Marques, I'm a newcomer to your channel. Man, you are very thorough, very honest, and very real in your day-to-day reviews of EVs...Loved the F-150 Review, Loved the Rivian review, and loved this review. Great job staying objective for the weary and interested but more importantly to yourself! Great Job young man!
As a model 3 driver, I'd like to try it first hand. But from what you've shown here, I don't quite see the upsides of the yoke - a clearer view of the cluster screen and a button for wipers - as a worthwhile tradeoff for the stalks and having to go to the screen for wipers. The horn button seems like a big step backwards unless Tesla's designers are pushing for the idea that horns are outdated and essentially useless, at least in emergency situations. I don't see how one would be able to find that horn button in a reasonable amount of time in an emergency.
@Curtis Judd I don’t like Tesla but it actually makes sense - if you’re slamming the horn when the airbag is deploying then your arms could get messed up. I don’t think it’s a good decision either, but Tesla tries to tout having the safest cars so that’s why it’s the logical next step for them
@@r.perzylo you can have an analog horn. and still let the computer control it. when you lock your car the horn goes off. that is in like 99% of cars rn. that is not the reason
Dear Marque, that was a "word class" description about the most weird decisions Tesla engineers and marketing took.. the yoke. Really I enjoyed so much the way you approached and describe your experience with the steering wheel. This is the reason you have so many subscribers in this channel. You have a "charisma" as we are using to say in Greece. Keep up the good work you are doing! Take care 🙋♂️
Touch controls on the steering column seems like such a bad idea. Not being able to to have the tactile response of a physical thing moving is extremely non-intuitive, and potentially unsafe.
@@puddlebarf after 18 months of owning a Model 3..... I entirely agree, wiper controls etc being on the touchscreen is very dangerous in bad weather on narrow, twisty European roads
maybe they should be physical buttons, but forcing the driver to hit a button then make the turn, instead of having a lever that can be knocked whilst making the turn i think should results in better signaling.
My only concern is that steering wheel. I wish Tesla gives an 200$ optional add-on to swap that to make people like me comfortable while driving and not feel like an alien ship pilot :)
You want them to charge you an extra $200 for the privilege of a normal, standard steering wheel in addition to the base price of this car... That's kinda funny man.
I think you're a Tesla product manager's dream if you were on the panel before they made these design decisions, but it's never too late to iterate and bring out more consumer choice. Super insightful feedback and love the delivery of it!
Genuinely feel that Tesla was at the apex of EVs a few years ago, but now that other manufacturers are rapidly closing the gap I really don't feel like I'd ever buy one - especially with these changes they've made, and the general issues people often have with the build quality.
The ones to the wheel don’t. The yoke wheel you get used to but the touch sensitive buttons on the wheel really screw with you. The switching gears for park, drive, neutral, and reverse feels really unnatural right now
@Therio isn't he talking about excelerating? Why would you need to go from 0-100 in a few seconds? It isn't about raw speed it is about how fast can you get there.
@@2nd3rd1st due to the fact that everyone on the planet, except for Formula 1 drivers maybe, are musculary used to a circular steering wheel, untill you get in a situation when you have no time to think about your further actions you would really not notice any difference. But when such a situation happens, your brain and muscles, which were used to just roll the wheel fast to avoid anything bad or just press the horn, will do it just by the instinct. Such a wheel really needs to be driven a lot with just for your arms to get used to the motion in which everything goes well.
I’ve been driving for 58 years and would LOVE TO TRY this new system! I don’t think it would take but 10 minutes to fall in love with it. Not a single worry.
That's exactly how I feel about the Auto-shift feature too. I don't need my car to remember how I got into a spot, I instinctually know how to get out of it before I even enter the car again. I either put it in drive or reverse, no guess work required by my car and no stress hoping that the car guessed correctly. It literally does not save any time or reduce the drivers mental load at all, in fact it does the complete opposite.
@@GlennC789 idk man, the yoke is usually in fast cars because they want both hands on the wheel not one at 12 o clock. especially with a car over 1000 hp
@@sean_mc I hope you guys know that the auto shift feature isn't a locked-on feature. You can turn that feature off in the settings and shift it like a normal car by swiping up or down on the touchscreen.
yea i was thinking exactly the same thing. there is no reason to not use an actual circle for cars like this. and the lack of physical buttons tilts me too.
Critical buttons like the blinkers shouldn‘t be able to activate when accidentally brushing over them while turning. How have they not figured this out in testing? Also the Yoke blocking part of the gear change, like just sit in the carduring testing and this should‘ve been obvious.
They brought the "move fast and break stuff" method of rapid software development to fucking cars. It's stupid and dangerous. When you break things in a car, people die.
I can see a pro being theres nothing in the way of seeing the speedometer and the road. And they prolly wanted to do something to further distance this model from the original model s. Still not good tho
The point is if you have a yoke "like in F1 cars" you should also be able to take any turn with a max. 90 degree twist to each side, you know, like in an F1 car. If you have to do 2 turns with a yoke, it's actually a joke.
I am 71 with 48 years of driving manual and automatic sedans and pickup. I drive steering with one hand (left or right, holding the sides or bottom parts of the wheel) which I almost never take off the wheel. The controls, as long as these are not sensitive to accidental touches, are alright where these are now. Of course, I am just imagining since there are almost no Tesla, more so no Plaid model. I wish I could be there, drive the Plaid and give a more. Intelligent input. Btw, keep up with your nonchalant and info loaded style of delivering your message. More power.
Completely agreed about the steering wheel and getting rid of the stalks - makes absolutely no sense. Imagine valet parking and trying to explain how to drive this car.
@@Heartsbane055 Agreed, because as much as I love modern tech, I also think somethings should be left alone with the old saying of if it ain't broke, don't try to change it/fix it.
Just slightly confused. Do you mean it's easy to explain how to drive it and valet parking or do you mean it's harder? Just don't completely understand and if you're agreeing with him or the decision Tesla made to add it.
Try finding and turning on the blinkers as you are exiting a roundabout .. impossible and dangerous. Those controls on the steering wheel work (somewhat) for high-speed cars like Lamborghinis where you do not rotate much at high speed; not cars that you expect to drive daily in the city to the supermarket.
Things like turn signals and horn should be able to be activated without even a glance. Making them into buttons is bad, capacitive buttons take them beyond bad. Example, It’s not uncommon that you need to put on the turn signal while rotating the steering wheel and good luck with the buttons in this case
True. I wonder if this is a sinister plan to normalize unintuitive driving for the next generation and eventually convince them that manual driving is just so stressful and impractical, so cough up hundreds of $$$ a month to get the latest super-advanced self-driving subscription that honks and turn-signals automatically!
I love it, change is great,its life its how we evolve and this great for other generations coming up..Yes u got to supply for alot of falks whos use to before etc ofc but how we to change when we only stuck on the old regular thing.
Why the hell are car manufacturers adding MORE touch controls in cars? A car is one thing where tactile, easy to use without looking controls are essential.
Exactly! I remember driving a Tesla for the first time. The AC was on full blast so I tried to lower it. Of course keeping my eye on the road , I tried to find the ac controls on the screen .. Instead, I raised the volume to the radio and blasted my ears. 🤦♂️ Now I’m freezing and blowing my ears up 😔
They literally made the wheel worse. A circle is the perfect and only design for something to be "turned". How did anyone think this would be more useful than a circle?
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I’d be really interested in how the indicators work in a roundabout, feel like this could be very bad. For the Americans, roundabouts are the circular things on the road.
@@GriotDNB I actually live in Italy and the horn isn't used much in roundabouts. The indicators tough are really concerning since when you drive inside a roundabout they are typically toggled while steering and having them on a touch button on the side of the steering wheel seems unecessairly complicated and potentially dangerous. The increasingly shift of critical controls to touch interfaces is the single most important flaw which makes me not want a Tesla.
@@MadSideburns oh I fully agree with you on that. Those should be tactile to me too. About driving in Italy, is that thing of 'creating' a middle lane on B-roads for overtakes still a thing? Scared the shït out of me first time I drove there, 20-odd years ago.
Less reactionary honking... I guess... I mean, honking because you got cut off is... silly, honking should be for warning people in dangerous situations.
That makes this horn even more dangerous. If someone is about to hit you or is turning into your lane, you want it the horn to be as seamless to hit as possible.
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@@Infinityflow0 the car will drop back automatically. people die when the airbag goes off launching the hand into the face, even when it's a low impact crash, Imagine a old lady hitting the horn because someone is about to reverse into her then BANG she's mortal kombat style punched a hole through her own face 😂
LOL, right. This yoke crash everything good you can tell about this car. This should be stated in the first seconds of the video, "BEWARE" with 72 points Comic Sans. You literally couldn't make most fundamental thing in a car, more shitty than it is now. Ridiculous...
The only thing it came to my mind when I saw the yoke and buttons on it was that the engineers that design it were never inside a car or drive one before.
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I think horn, good clicky buttons instead of touch controls and a wider area to change reverse or drive or maybe also some buttons on back of steering wheel
@@shauncassidy3658 I can quickly hit my horn, left right and center without having to “quickly” read my manual. Just admit there’s no reason for Tesla’s shitty yoke design.
@@gdo3510 Someone else suggested it may be a safety feature. People often honk their horns before getting in an accident, and having your arm extended in front of the airbag may lead to unnecessary injury.
@@futuregamer25 I think this is a valid concern but someone not being able to instinctively honk their horn can also result in them getting into an accident they wouldn't have otherwise
The yoke is the Windows 8 of steering wheels. A company “fixing” what ain’t broken and forcing people to retrain to their dumb aesthetic of form over function.
@@HarrisonAdAstra It comes down to the driver’s personality. Some are willing to sacrifice for fashion. Others can’t fathom investing in a functionally inferior design, even if they can adapt to it.
@@HarrisonAdAstra I think there's an easy partial solution here. Marques's issue is mainly with the buttons, not the wheel. And specifically, mainly accidentally hitting them when turning or other maneuvers. Tesla can reduce the press sensitivity when turning the wheel so that it takes a more "enthusiastic" button press to trigger an event. Not just turning, but just looking over the pattern of data they get on misclick events vs. the pattern of data they get on deliberate-click events in general for correlations. I imagine that they can get the misclick rate way down with some smart software. I still agree that they should have gone with physical buttons for the steering wheel. The steering wheel is where things are supposed to be activated by feel, not by looking. It's when you have to take your hands away from the wheel that you're forced to look (unless you like to fumble around), and touchscreens are thus much more applicable away from the wheel.
It’s like the *UNCANNY ZONE* of aesthetics vs safety. I personally see that when you can’t navigate instantly (hazards, gears, blinkers, etc..) it’s a safety hazard. Either fully and robustly automate it, or have the driver do it, conventionally. Those touch blinkers will be horrendous when trying to click them when the “yolk” is 180 deg. turned.
Not trying to be a jerk, but shouldn’t your blinker on before you start doing 180° turn? I teach driving skills to law-enforcement, and we always teach them to focus on the maneuver , finish it, then do something else and finish that maneuver, before moving on to something else. When I was in the Marine Corps we had a saying, divided attention, double the trouble.
Plaid has been my dream car for awhile now and that still hasn’t changed, but wtf is up with the steering wheel? This tiny tweak is going to steer a massive amount of people away from getting this car. How is it not obvious that it should be optional at the very least?
No, people would still buy this car...................its the apple of car company...............they decide and we follow..............no questions asked.......
My understanding is that Elon was a big proponent of this design decision. It can be hard to argue with the boss. I do feel like this is one of those times his personal preferences are guiding decision-making.
@@NinetooNine yea, it's not even that innovative or futuristic, i don't think it matters much what shape is the steering wheel, also i hate shifting through the screen.
Great review and thanks for not repeating some of the obvious comments from all the myriads of reviewers - i think this is the reference plaid video - mahalo
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Congrats Marques, the steering wheel buttons stress me daily.... should have placed the blinkers like Ferrari does, and some more buttons on the back of the steering wheel that could be customized, forward, reverse, etc...
Do you find yourself accidentally clicking buttons when turning over the wheel?
Also the headlights freak me out. It seems so easy to have high beams on without realizing it
@@marsstarlink3235 yes, and I find my self always looking down at the wheel for which turn signal to use...
Are you really Brooks ?
@@DragTimes but isn’t this something that could be fixed by an aftermarket supplier? Although of course it should be an option from Tesla themselves, to be able to specify stalks or no stalks or have another version of the wheel with more tactile button differentiation.
The tesla steering "wheel" looks good, but is dangerous as fuck. The classic round steering wheel is a better design because it enables you to grab the steering wheel from any angle. Its more accessible, especially when you need to quickly grab the wheel with both hands to do a last munite maneuver to avoid something.
just say your old and cant handle new shit
Bruuuuuuuuuh
@@oneshot1kill158 I'm 37
The classic "reinventing the wheel" phenomenon -- with all downside & little to no upside.
@@WilliamHelstad f1 has 360 degrees of lock this has 1080 the steering wheel on the plaid is a handful at low speeds in f1 you can turn 90 degrees and that’s full lock
BMW driver stereotype: never uses a signal while changing lanes.
Tesla driver stereotype: turns on both signals, the windshield wipers, honks the horn and turns on the radio while making a turn
😂😂
🤣🤣
The thing is people don't notice when a the driver in a Ford Fiesta doesn't signal and you just don't remember it, but everyone notices anyone in a luxury car making a mistake.
@@robertp457 Not every BMW is a luxury car.
hahahaha
I love tech, big touch screens, etc., but some physical buttons are actually a very good thing in a car.
Actually they are the best thing. While driving you don't want to be going threw menus etc, it's dangerous. You should be able to click something fast and easy. Car computers are stupid and on top of that they make the electric wiring of the car very complicated and the car overall more prone to electrical issues with all kind of things going wrong, from censors top chips etc.
The less you have the better.
My proposal is all manufacturers should put all basic factions in buttons and instead of putting an entertainment unit they should just have an adjustable space on the main console were you can put a smartphone or even a tablet and have it connect with the car and it's speakers etc and be able to use that. They can have an app for the car that they update etc.
Absolutely!
100%. I'd love a Tesla if right under the screen there were auxiliary climate buttons and a volume knob. That's all I'm asking for.
Thank you!
@@SIPEROTH Couldn't have said it better
Kinda a deal breaker for me
Same thing with the first manned SpaceX Launch Rocket can't see any button only one big ass screen it feel to cartoonish for me
*Me, a broke 20-something year old watching a review of a $140k car*
You know what? The steering wheel is the deal breaker for me
they just give their thoughts lol
Definitely. The Yoke is a deal breaker. I definitely won't be getting one now.
Me with my $3000 honda accord
agreed
I don’t have air conditioning, but I do have a full leather wrapped steering wheel with physical buttons. Luxury
Thanks!
Me as a broke and poor person that I can't afford a bicycle, watching carefully the video of Marques and very worried about the steering wheel problem :)
Same boat. But the car looks nice 🙃
haha, same here
Bruh
😂🤣 I love comments like this complain about been broke. get your lazy butt up you think money come to you bitching sitting there 😂🤣
Don't worry.
I expect 3rd party steering wheels being real popular to combat a lot of these yoke and touch button issues. If they can be retrofitted and function 100%.
You can't do that
Theres gotta be a way to pull it off, the issue would be tricking Tesla's software though. But it wouldnt be the first battle fought on the side of consumers against Tesla trying to control that sorta thing from what I understand lol, to varying levels of success
@@Losevaiper Never say never haha
Will Tesla allow it. They are basically Apple of car industry
@@sorryi6685 💯. Nailed it. They are definitely anti right to repair, mod etc...
Cannot imagine turning my "wheel" 200 degrees for a round-a-bout then having to find the turn signals for exiting the round-a-bout. Mind-boggling design.
Ikr it's ridiculous. And people are *actually* going to buy this car and they might be brainwash into liking it....
(I know not *everything* about the car is bad, but a lot of it is *severely* poorly designed. Well most their cars are I guess but this is just ridiculous.)
I doubt this steering wheel is even legal in Norway. The turn signal in a roundabout was my first thought when I saw the blinker buttons. I've struggled with that in Euro Truck Simulator with my G27 wheel and the physical buttons on it for turn signals.
Also, going from this car to my other cars and vice versa is going to be a challenge if I was to get one
Yep was thinking the same.
@@Autunite The first thing I thought was "fuck, it's like having to relearn indicators in ETS2"
I ended up remapping the paddle shifts to left and right indicators, and using the H-shifter and a couple of the buttons on the shifter assembly as splitters.
Yokes aren’t supposed to need such angles of turning. It’s supposed to be able to do most turns with 90 degrees turns, so your hands always stay on the grip. The issue with that car is that they put a yoke on a standard steering rack.
I think the yoke its self is fine as well and it's the buttons that are a problem. The big one for me is the horn. The horn is something that you need to be able to use in an instant. I can think of many times where I was cut off and if I honked a second later, I would of been hit.
Marques’ “First Impressions” are other RUclipsrs’ “Full Reviews”
Indeed
Setting benchmarks and building on them every time. Like he wishes apple would
He didnt even drive the car in this ‘review’
Also youtubers:welp time to buy some Tesla's😀
@@AmmarMalik what would you discern from watching him drive? he drove it 800 miles and explained the whole experience, what else do you want?
I drove Model S Plaid 2 weeks ago and I can confirm it's absolutely as wild as Marques says. You feel like you're blasting into space every time you floor it.
Yep that’s what happens when you own a space and a car company
Hey checkmark
No way 😳
@@SyncedJay literally nothing to do with spacex
@@manaspradhan8041 guess it was a bad joke
You are the only RUclipsr who suggested that the horn should have been on the airbag cover in the middle of the steering. That was my exact thought when I first saw a review of the model s plaid.
While pressing the horn on the airbag when accident happened it's not the best place to be where the hands on.
Or at least easy to reach with your thumb. I mean if he can't reach the thing, none of us can lol. There's been plenty of cars over the years with the horn button placed off like this, but I've never seen it out of reach. Pretty counterintuitive.
@@kzero1499 Agreed. When you need the horn it's not rarely a matter of fractions of a second, it's urgent, the faster you can get to the horn the better. It can literally in some cases save lives.
This solution with a hard-to-reach touch button likely adds a second or even more to the total time before you can sound the horn. I feel it's kind if a dangerous choice Tesla made.
The other touch buttons, while not intuitive, is more of an annoyance type problem rather than potentially a dangerous one.
That's where RTFM helps, they actually made covering the entire right touchpanel trigger the horn too.
But interestingly, cutting the upper steering was made to improve the visiblity of the gauges... but they didn't cut it to see properly the main/big screen?
@@mannydcbianco Definitely. I had an old NA Miata and they placed the horn buttons on both sides of the wheel right next to your thumb and it was actually pretty great when you needed the horn asap, it's literally right there don't even have to adjust your hand placement. Tesla dropped the ball here.
I'm also worried about the 'phantom wheel' as he pointed out. I can easily imagine in an emergency, even after getting used to the yoke, people will still go to grab for things that are no longer there and cause issues.
Honesty and sharing the unbiased own view is key in success and retaining credibility. And this is why i love your videos/reviews so much! Exceptional work...over and over again!! Keep it on. Greetings from Switzerland
Simple, critical analysis. That’s why I love this guy’s reviews.
20 mins isn't simple
@@fromis.9 for a car, it is.
@@fromis.9 Alright do yours then
"critical"
Yeah, unlike his biased apple reviews.
The way he retrieved his paper is hilarious
The ergonomics of the steering wheel is ridiculous.
I think the yoke is just an awful idea.
Actually, most people who have now used Yoke love it, they don't want to go back to wheel....but almost all have same issues with "touch" buttons like MB
@@archigoel i think partially for loving it so much are novelty factor and brand loyalty. Cos i dont think making a u turn in this thing would be half as nice as on a circle wheel but again i could be wrong
*are not *is
*Like bro its a car not a goddamn Cessna*
A really great review Marques. First time on this channel and impressed with your knowledge and thoughts on the Plaid. Keep up the good work.
That steering wheel with the touch only buttons is the worst interface I've seen since the blackberry storm 9530, or the Thinkpad t440p where they removed the physical mouse buttons.
edit: 17:30 oh god I didn't finish the video yet! I called it, blackberry storm. That is storm 9530 lag right there!
Agreed.
louis
@100 years ago They are, they are slow because they are big orgs.
@100 years ago Also there are better EVs, just because you don't know doesn't mean they do not exist. They are either too expensive (porsche taycan), or poorly marketed(Mach-E), or no marketing at all (Toyota bZ4X)
@@cosmo6064 The Mach-E and the Toyota bZ4X aren't even available in Australia either.
The yoke is a deal breaker for me, aside from the fact that well, I’m poor.
Yoke aside, the touch-activated controls is a deal breaker for me. What a shitty thing to do, put touch buttons on an area where your thumbs might accidentally hit while turning the wheel.
I LOLed a little :)
just work harder /s
@@RyoHazuki224 Tesla is doing it the Apple way, giving a huge middle finger to every consumer "We dont care what you want". They just want to cut costs. It's cheaper to have less parts and have everything just controlled via a PCB board and electronics and possibly a touchscreen, rather than physical parts for that. It has the only upside, that theoretically less can break. That only comes to play though, when you build shitty quality. The clear downside is, it decreases safety cause you often have to look where you touch a button, so you take your eyes off the street, and the other downside is, once one tiny part breaks, you cant fix it, you have to replace the whole thing. As it was shown in RichRebuilds where they guy was told by tesla he had to buy a whole new battery pack for 16 grand because some tiny part for the cooling broke after being hit by debris on the street. Yeah Environment! Elon is so full of shit.
@@maxmeier532 Consumers only know they wanted something, after they get it. So unless you happen to have a Plaid, STFU
The horn should be the easiest "button" to hit, having to reach that button in an awkward position could cost a life. I thought that was regulated and changing the position was illegal.
If you hit either side of the wheel either your palm it honks the horn. He just didn't read the owners manual.
Is the Tesla a product that somehow bypassed regulation? Or is the reviewer an idiot who didn’t read the manual
@Enzo Morf read the owner’s manual!!
@@jonvanbrunning4294 But the customer shouldn't be expected to read the owner's manual. The horn should be the most intuitive part of the car. The majority of customers aren't going to read the owner's manual, and in a life or death situation, the horn should be intuitive
@@SuperMustache555 well, it’s their fault for not reading it, innit?
I’m so happy MKBHD is a logic fan
When Marques starts talking about the yoke I'm like "ah, I could get used to it, and the horn in it has a big and nice "horn space" in the middle" and 5 minutes later I'm like "oh no, no, what have they done??"
@Nekrasov 😂 yup definitely not a space problem
Yeah, I've had these same concerns. Yoke - can get used to that. Capacitive buttons - not happy about that. No massive horn button - that's just a bad call and unsafe.
In Europe is very very probably that they wouldn't allow it
@Nekrasov my 99 mercedes did not have a horn in the traditional middle spot. It instead had two buttons on either side of the wheel so you can honk easily without having to take your hands off the wheel.
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It’s just hilarious that while accelerating his registration piped out 😂
Good job Plaid
Steering yoke: creating a solution for a problem that didn't exist, and thereby creating a problem that didn't exist. (edited: corrected typo)
... Yoke*
Elon CON 🤡 did it
SAAB tried replacing the steering wheel in a prototype callerd the Prometheus with a joystick control in the late 80s/early 90s.....suffist to say it mever made it to market
True
thats like creating a human baby
Dude I could listen to you talk about anything for hours. 👏👏👏
he is very interesting to listen to and has a manner of talking that is clear and draws you in somehow...
I dont have the car and will probably never own it yet I watched the whole video lol first thought check it the car out but ended up listening to him for a while
Probably accounts for his near 15 million subscribers
Why are we commenting like he doesn’t run the page and see these 👀😂
I agree totally though.. he is vulnerable and explains his thoughts real time with in depth commentary. Very personable and makes it feel like he’s just talking to you individually
@@Natemoney15 If he had around 35k subs like me he'd probably see the comment. With near 15 million subs... he probably only sees an extremely small portion of the comments
Idek why tf I was watching this.😭
The thing about classic wheel with stalks is I can indicate, use the horn and wipers immediately regardless of the steering wheel position. Not being able to do any of these at an instant is alarming.
I’ve used a car horn maybe 2 times in the 16 years i’m on the road. Too much people think it’s a “wrong answer” button from a tv show or something. But i agree that that yoke is a mistake.
@@Engineer9736 "wrong answer" button 😂
exactly. imagine making a turn and you need to honk to alert someone. have fun finding that button
@@Engineer9736 if you live in a city that horn literally saves lives. Il feel so unsafe driving a car without a horn button I can instinctively press. Safety not for myself but for the millions of pedestrians.
@@TheVoltaire1 exactly! sometimes you *need* to honk at someone, it’s literally a safety feature. not being able to get to the horn instantly, without looking down, is a huge issue
Those steering wheel buttons would drive me bonkers. Can't wait to get my hands on the Plaid.
Are u from the UK?
@@Tonybad876 no
Yoooooo tedwarddddddd
Can you buy me one?
Not Tedward on MKBHD where’s The Topher?
Dude the present day is insaaane. These days and even more in the future, we'll be like "how fast does your car go?" "163 MPH but it will get increased to 200 MPH the next software update"
My neighbor has one of these, and gave me a ride today. It’s absolutely INSANE. I think the interior is awesome, the yoke is so-so, but otherwise the tech is amazing. Not to mention it’s incredibly quick. I felt the blood shifting to the back of my body. You can pull a G on a public road. THAT is madness.
Exactly. People who haven’t driven/ridden in one don’t understand. Even if you’re experienced on the dragstrip, you have done low 9s on the STREET. It’s just fucking madness.
@@GoFast865 Seriously! It makes really quick cars feel normal 😂
Interior is drab
@@GoFast865 I think most of them do understand. Digital watches are more accurate but the non-digital watch industry is still a multi billion dollar industry for a reason.
@@aoo2645 How is the watch topic linked to any part of the comment that you replied to? Wtf
It's clear this car is made for America, imagine going round a roundabout and having to indicate you are going off while turning that yoke around.
damn that's a very good point
We do have roundabouts in the U.S.
The few we have around here in Ohio they don't use their signals anyway. Though to be perfectly honest, they don't use them anywhere.
@@Oxibase nowhere near as many though, and he’s right that would be very difficult to do on the yolk. Already know this from trying to skip tracks or change volume while going round corners
Roundabouts don’t need turn signals. It’s a continuous flow
"There's magnets everywhere"
Me waiting for marques to pull out the magnet paper😂😂😂
lol yeah
😂😂😂😂😂😐
Wait for the full review. I'm sure he will. 😂
Marques, I'm a newcomer to your channel. Man, you are very thorough, very honest, and very real in your day-to-day reviews of EVs...Loved the F-150 Review, Loved the Rivian review, and loved this review. Great job staying objective for the weary and interested but more importantly to yourself! Great Job young man!
As a model 3 driver, I'd like to try it first hand. But from what you've shown here, I don't quite see the upsides of the yoke - a clearer view of the cluster screen and a button for wipers - as a worthwhile tradeoff for the stalks and having to go to the screen for wipers. The horn button seems like a big step backwards unless Tesla's designers are pushing for the idea that horns are outdated and essentially useless, at least in emergency situations. I don't see how one would be able to find that horn button in a reasonable amount of time in an emergency.
I bet soon the horn will be able to honk on its own when in a time of emergency.
@@robtrades9003 If an auto-horn worked anything like the auto high beams on Model 3, I'd turn that feature off. 😀
@@ilikeclothes73 Marques said to leave our thoughts in the comments. Cool your engines, pal.
You don't see the upsides of the yoke because there are none lololol there's a reason why the term "don't reinvent the wheel" is a thing 😂
@Curtis Judd I don’t like Tesla but it actually makes sense - if you’re slamming the horn when the airbag is deploying then your arms could get messed up. I don’t think it’s a good decision either, but Tesla tries to tout having the safest cars so that’s why it’s the logical next step for them
"You better not cut me off or I'm going to accidentally turn on my wipers at you!"
" ok, cool down mate, doesn't warrant such an insult"
I love that car overall, but they need to use more analog controls for things that are simply better being analog. For instance, the horn.
But how am I going to honk at my friends and the sound of farts come out of my Tesla?
and i wish the steering was a normal one
@@tony96907 You can order a normal one
The horn not being analog will someday allow AI to control it in Robotaxi mode, I believe.
@@r.perzylo you can have an analog horn. and still let the computer control it. when you lock your car the horn goes off. that is in like 99% of cars rn. that is not the reason
I love the white seats! BTW, very nice Video!
Imagine VALETS on google trying to understand how to drive the thing! LOL
Dang, I didn't think of that. That should suck for em.
Who is valets tho
@@Founderschannel123 people who clean cars
Valet?
If you're spending $130,000 on a Tesla, you're also obviously getting full self-driving (smart summon and auto park)
Lmao why would I need a valet when I already have Autopark and Summon.
The Yoke steering wheel would actually be the one thing that would hold me back from getting one
I can see no benefit in this yoke
Huge deal breaker for me
That and then the touch buttons it's too much and something you use the most in the car
I would at least test drive it first to see if I like it.
@@TBetter i dont need to… I know with 100% certainty i do not want that. I also cant get over the missing gear selector…. Like WTF?
This was a really good video. I want to try the yoke too, shame it's let down by the touch buttons.
Ha ok verified person
Its gamer hardware
True
Agreed
Verified person problems...
Dear Marque, that was a "word class" description about the most weird decisions Tesla engineers and marketing took.. the yoke.
Really I enjoyed so much the way you approached and describe your experience with the steering wheel.
This is the reason you have so many subscribers in this channel. You have a "charisma" as we are using to say in Greece.
Keep up the good work you are doing!
Take care 🙋♂️
Touch controls on the steering column seems like such a bad idea. Not being able to to have the tactile response of a physical thing moving is extremely non-intuitive, and potentially unsafe.
Same can be said for the entire screen
@@puddlebarf after 18 months of owning a Model 3..... I entirely agree, wiper controls etc being on the touchscreen is very dangerous in bad weather on narrow, twisty European roads
leave to Tesla to fix something that wasn't broken. lol
@@audigex im pretty sure they're banned from being used while on the road in Germany, punished by fine
maybe they should be physical buttons, but forcing the driver to hit a button then make the turn, instead of having a lever that can be knocked whilst making the turn i think should results in better signaling.
My only concern is that steering wheel. I wish Tesla gives an 200$ optional add-on to swap that to make people like me comfortable while driving and not feel like an alien ship pilot :)
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Tf
Tf
I think people will get used to the shape of it, But the touch buttons though thats gonna be annoying as hell
You want them to charge you an extra $200 for the privilege of a normal, standard steering wheel in addition to the base price of this car... That's kinda funny man.
I think you're a Tesla product manager's dream if you were on the panel before they made these design decisions, but it's never too late to iterate and bring out more consumer choice. Super insightful feedback and love the delivery of it!
As usual for you this review adds in so much detail that everyone else misses. Thanks Marques!
That steering "wheel" is a perfect example of design over function
It's a yoke at this point
Better hope that thing has a tight steering ratio or low speed turns are gonna be a fucking pain
@@cherrypepsi2815 it has the same steering ratio as the old model s
@@Ban00 cringe
That steering wheel looks like it would be just awful to drive with.
It's a yoke.
6:45 MAN, that 60-130 MPH time is MIND-BOGGLING 🤯
90s Japan street racers:: hold my sake
96 - 210 KPH for those that aren’t mentally challenged.
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm seems a little aggressive
@@bushraptor people that still use MPH make me aggressive
It's mind-numbing :P
I honestly don't know if these changes makes our lives easier
Genuinely feel that Tesla was at the apex of EVs a few years ago, but now that other manufacturers are rapidly closing the gap I really don't feel like I'd ever buy one - especially with these changes they've made, and the general issues people often have with the build quality.
@@IncapableKakistocrat I don’t think build quality is a problem with the newer Tesla’s… I have an X and I have no complaints..
@@IncapableKakistocrat Yeah, better go for the Porsche electric. At least its got a wheel and a great interior.
The ones to the wheel don’t. The yoke wheel you get used to but the touch sensitive buttons on the wheel really screw with you. The switching gears for park, drive, neutral, and reverse feels really unnatural right now
@@IncapableKakistocrat funny how I only see the gap increasing🤣
Great video..respect for Marques.. an excellent, honest, knowledgable impression of my dream car.
8:06 - ''Most people will never need any of that''
*smiles in German*
Why would you excelerate that fast.
We couldn't have the Autobahn in the us because it would go to shit and more people would die every day than died in Iraq lol
@Therio isn't he talking about excelerating? Why would you need to go from 0-100 in a few seconds? It isn't about raw speed it is about how fast can you get there.
@@BrendanBrown1 na it would be fine probably. The bad part would be continued finding
Hallo
"Slow muscle memory remap" is a pretty big undergoing in a dangerous environment like traffic...
Other Plaid owners here on YT don't seem to have that issue
@@2nd3rd1st because they are not someone who used car for 10 years?
@@2nd3rd1st due to the fact that everyone on the planet, except for Formula 1 drivers maybe, are musculary used to a circular steering wheel, untill you get in a situation when you have no time to think about your further actions you would really not notice any difference. But when such a situation happens, your brain and muscles, which were used to just roll the wheel fast to avoid anything bad or just press the horn, will do it just by the instinct. Such a wheel really needs to be driven a lot with just for your arms to get used to the motion in which everything goes well.
@@vsevolod2563 Race cars have a very quick steering ratio so it's like driving a normal car.
You'll very rarely need to make huge steering adjustments in a driving emergency. In fact, those would be dangerous overcorrections.
Imagine someone snatching your plaid badge at a Walmart parking lot 😂
Why would anyone driving a Tesla go to Walmart?
@@ojjoooooo why can’t they?
@@plastiquemaraj8839 I think the joke is that if someone can afford this car they can afford to go to fancier stores?
@@sethiest Exactly, the European equivalent would be a german Herr Doktor in an S-Class going to McDonalds. Lmao
This is why we have sentry-cam.
I’ve been driving for 58 years and would LOVE TO TRY this new system! I don’t think it would take but 10 minutes to fall in love with it. Not a single worry.
To quote Gilfoyle from Silicon Valley, "It's addressing problems that don't exist. Its solutionism at its worst".
That's exactly how I feel about the Auto-shift feature too. I don't need my car to remember how I got into a spot, I instinctually know how to get out of it before I even enter the car again. I either put it in drive or reverse, no guess work required by my car and no stress hoping that the car guessed correctly. It literally does not save any time or reduce the drivers mental load at all, in fact it does the complete opposite.
Exactly, why fix something that isn't broken?
Sounds like the American way...
@@GlennC789 idk man, the yoke is usually in fast cars because they want both hands on the wheel not one at 12 o clock. especially with a car over 1000 hp
@@sean_mc I hope you guys know that the auto shift feature isn't a locked-on feature. You can turn that feature off in the settings and shift it like a normal car by swiping up or down on the touchscreen.
Tesla: How do we make Autopilot necessary?
Answer: Make the steering wheel unsafe to use.
yea i was thinking exactly the same thing. there is no reason to not use an actual circle for cars like this. and the lack of physical buttons tilts me too.
Imagine that a beta software is allowed to use for self driving
It's unbelievable
Uh oh, here comes the guy that’s afraid of losing his driving job.
I wish they would have made it with a fight jet style stick instead of a wheel to piss even more people off
This car seems like a whole lot of "engineering solutions to problems that don't really exist"...
Damn exactly
Apple be ~ first tymm..????
Tbh I don’t see any solutions, only more problems…..
It's called thinking outside the box. You obviously don't seem to get it but that's fine since you'll never own one anyway.
@@koushiks3326 🤣🤣
Marques attitude... 🤐🤐
God level...
Critical buttons like the blinkers shouldn‘t be able to activate when accidentally brushing over them while turning. How have they not figured this out in testing? Also the Yoke blocking part of the gear change, like just sit in the carduring testing and this should‘ve been obvious.
They brought the "move fast and break stuff" method of rapid software development to fucking cars. It's stupid and dangerous. When you break things in a car, people die.
That steering wheel is the most "innovation for innovations sake" thing I've ever seen. Looks so much less functional than a regular steering wheel.
Basicly over engineered. I am sure in the Lab they also have a Xbox One controller as the steering wheel. Detachable.
I can see a pro being theres nothing in the way of seeing the speedometer and the road. And they prolly wanted to do something to further distance this model from the original model s. Still not good tho
I see aviation and F1 influence with that yoke
i think they wanted to flex its speed. by using a similar design to F1 cars. it would be nice if there were options. should be swappable.
The point is if you have a yoke "like in F1 cars" you should also be able to take any turn with a max. 90 degree twist to each side, you know, like in an F1 car.
If you have to do 2 turns with a yoke, it's actually a joke.
I never clicked so fast on mkbhd
Me neither 😅
ha
I never really cared.
@@crawlingfingers cuz he's black?
1.99 sec fast.
I am 71 with 48 years of driving manual and automatic sedans and pickup. I drive steering with one hand (left or right, holding the sides or bottom parts of the wheel) which I almost never take off the wheel. The controls, as long as these are not sensitive to accidental touches, are alright where these are now. Of course, I am just imagining since there are almost no Tesla, more so no Plaid model. I wish I could be there, drive the Plaid and give a more. Intelligent input. Btw, keep up with your nonchalant and info loaded style of delivering your message. More power.
Fantastic video. As expected, you coveted a lot of stuff that other people didn't cover in their videos.
Yup his videos are so well made. Some of the best on the platform
Totally agree. The best reviews, car tests on the platform.
COVFEFE
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wheel.
He coveted what his neighbor RUclipsrs didn't cover? Yikes! Sounds like a serious sin 😱
I definitely agree with steering wheel. I don't have the car but yeah, those buttons would worry me.
I don't have the internet connection, but yeah I liked your comment 👍🏻
@@YouShreyans wait what
When MKBHD says something is bad, IT'S BAD.
Marry him now
@@levinovod what?
Just ordered a model S plaid with a yolk. I’m so excited.!!!
Him: Doesn’t really like the plaid badge
Dragtimes: Really wishes he got the plaid badge
Yo verified boi wassup 😊
@@uglybozo lmao
Bald
@@abdulmjeedabdulrahman3321 lol 😆
@@abdulmjeedabdulrahman3321 bald man mike?
Completely agreed about the steering wheel and getting rid of the stalks - makes absolutely no sense.
Imagine valet parking and trying to explain how to drive this car.
They are doing it because it's cheaper. Less moving parts and physical parts to make. Everything done in software.
@@PimpTwzt somethings shouldn't be done in software.
Won't need a valet when the car will be able to go park itself in the future :P
@@Heartsbane055 Agreed, because as much as I love modern tech, I also think somethings should be left alone with the old saying of if it ain't broke, don't try to change it/fix it.
Just slightly confused. Do you mean it's easy to explain how to drive it and valet parking or do you mean it's harder? Just don't completely understand and if you're agreeing with him or the decision Tesla made to add it.
The whole idea of placing important signal controls (horn/blinkers/light) onto a rotating yoke, is just... ludicrous.
Try finding and turning on the blinkers as you are exiting a roundabout .. impossible and dangerous.
Those controls on the steering wheel work (somewhat) for high-speed cars like Lamborghinis where you do not rotate much at high speed; not cars that you expect to drive daily in the city to the supermarket.
Ferrari had been doing that for years. And everybody driving an modern Ferrari hates it. At least a Ferrari is normal steering wheel.
Yokes rotate... also yeah thats a steering wheel
I'm due to get this car, love it!
Marques: "I'm a pretty tech forward person".......Understatement of the decade
Elongated Muskrat
What 'bout that?
Imagine having a car that is almost perfect except the steering wheel.. lol
It’s not like you use it that much
Same thought bro
Exactly that steering wheel is so inconvenient, I think tesla did it on purpose to get some sort of profits in the future
10 and 2. terrible steering wheel. should give options
@@Kooler_1 yo same display picture
Things like turn signals and horn should be able to be activated without even a glance. Making them into buttons is bad, capacitive buttons take them beyond bad. Example, It’s not uncommon that you need to put on the turn signal while rotating the steering wheel and good luck with the buttons in this case
True. I wonder if this is a sinister plan to normalize unintuitive driving for the next generation and eventually convince them that manual driving is just so stressful and impractical, so cough up hundreds of $$$ a month to get the latest super-advanced self-driving subscription that honks and turn-signals automatically!
@@sivasubramanianm2029 Absolutely correct man that makes so much sense!
I love it, change is great,its life its how we evolve and this great for other generations coming up..Yes u got to supply for alot of falks whos use to before etc ofc but how we to change when we only stuck on the old regular thing.
Mkbhd: the quality has improved 2minutes later: there's literally a Gap in the car 😂
So ..that doesn't mean it hasn't improved , numbnuts .
@@brettaugustine1564 a car will forever have a black hole where items get lost in
@@justins5756 ...the stuff comes back out the other end ..it doesn't stay gone/stuck ......
That's just an issue in general. They will make a slight change to fix this issue. Wouldn't be surprised if they already fixed it
Time stamp?
Why the hell are car manufacturers adding MORE touch controls in cars? A car is one thing where tactile, easy to use without looking controls are essential.
Exactly! I remember driving a Tesla for the first time. The AC was on full blast so I tried to lower it. Of course keeping my eye on the road , I tried to find the ac controls on the screen .. Instead, I raised the volume to the radio and blasted my ears. 🤦♂️
Now I’m freezing and blowing my ears up 😔
Premium car manufactures are going back to physical knobs and buttons.
Touch is the cheap way to do it.
Couldn’t agree more
Remember the backlash when Honda removed the volume knob?
@@AP-qu8sl Volume and Climate control are one thing I’ll never accept Being taken away
Cost cutting, cost cutting = better margin
You've pointed out a lot of flaws with that wheel.
Yeah, unfortunately the flaws exist.
It seems wheelie dangerous.
Dude. Tesla should just have a normal modular steering wheel.. and give you an option. Make extra $$$$
@@thisgustin 😆 thanks for the chuckle buddy
Now go back to your wife’s car after driving this for a week. Crunch city and doghouse time for you!
🔥🔥🔥🔥that storage space too
MKBHD: “It’s fine” = “This really sucks!”
No
Yep. "It's fine" from reviewers is a nice way of saying, "I don't like this to be honest".
Hey, we both got a 2021 Tesla! Thx for pushing me to get one; I love it!
hello checkmark boi
His is a 2022 lol 😂
@@Kimbrough87 "So I've been using this 2023 Tesla Model S Pro Max Ultra Power for 2 weeks now, and here are my thoughts"
@@Kimbrough87 mate Tesla doesn't do the cringey 'current year+1' for their models, this is the 21 version
@@manaspradhan8041 yea they do, I ordered a 2020 model 3 in September 2019
He has un-invented the wheel. - James May
They literally made the wheel worse. A circle is the perfect and only design for something to be "turned". How did anyone think this would be more useful than a circle?
James May is my favorite boomer
There is a quote “you cant reinvent the wheel”
I can't stop laughing when I see that yoke. What is even more funny is people trying to convince themselves they like it.
MR ELIN MUST I THINK THIS GUY SHOULD BE USED IN A LOT OF YOUR COMMERCIALS, BECAUSE HE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB IN EXPLAINING THIS CARS N HOW IT RUNS N ITS NEEDED CHANGES
I’d be really interested in how the indicators work in a roundabout, feel like this could be very bad. For the Americans, roundabouts are the circular things on the road.
Having seen these driven around in Europe I'm pretty sure you just use your horn
@@profosist Ah, where have you been? Paris or Rome? No honking on northwestern European roundabouts.
@@GriotDNB I actually live in Italy and the horn isn't used much in roundabouts. The indicators tough are really concerning since when you drive inside a roundabout they are typically toggled while steering and having them on a touch button on the side of the steering wheel seems unecessairly complicated and potentially dangerous. The increasingly shift of critical controls to touch interfaces is the single most important flaw which makes me not want a Tesla.
Tires?? wheels??
I'm confused
@@MadSideburns oh I fully agree with you on that. Those should be tactile to me too. About driving in Italy, is that thing of 'creating' a middle lane on B-roads for overtakes still a thing? Scared the shït out of me first time I drove there, 20-odd years ago.
best believe someone's going to make a steering wheel adapter for this car
There's no way a thing like that will work.
The car will lock you out if you hit the system like that
@@Arrynek01 hes probably thinking like a plastic shell to make it round again 😅
@@ademiravdic 😭😭exactly and it'll be hella overpriced
Someone will just make a plastic clip-on from the bottom to fit on, then sell that.
Stay safe 🙌😇
If I am turning the wheel and need to hit the horn quickly that will be so hard. And even harder for someone that is 50 years old.
The „new horn“ is literally just dangerous
Less reactionary honking... I guess... I mean, honking because you got cut off is... silly, honking should be for warning people in dangerous situations.
I believe its to stop the airbag launching the back of your hand into your face at 100mph +
That makes this horn even more dangerous. If someone is about to hit you or is turning into your lane, you want it the horn to be as seamless to hit as possible.
Here is the Original Semitic Text. HERE is THE Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Infinityflow0 the car will drop back automatically. people die when the airbag goes off launching the hand into the face, even when it's a low impact crash, Imagine a old lady hitting the horn because someone is about to reverse into her then BANG she's mortal kombat style punched a hole through her own face 😂
Just ordered mine with a round wheel!
This reminds me of Fernando Alonso on Jolyon Palmer, "WHAT A YOKE!!"
KARMA!
same HAHAHA
Oh yeah! Been waiting for this one! Excellent work as always Marques and I appreciate hearing your observations and opinions of the Plaid. 😀👍🏻
Exellent work, 4 minutes after a 20 min video dropped? :P
New upload when? :(
Such an honest review - Thank you Marques for being honest and not just giving a fanboy review!!!
LOL, right. This yoke crash everything good you can tell about this car. This should be stated in the first seconds of the video, "BEWARE" with 72 points Comic Sans. You literally couldn't make most fundamental thing in a car, more shitty than it is now. Ridiculous...
Great review! Can't wait to see the Cadillac Lyriq review!
The only thing it came to my mind when I saw the yoke and buttons on it was that the engineers that design it were never inside a car or drive one before.
This is what happens when people prefer style over safety & actual use of something.
it appears to me to be more like a whim from Elon than anything else.
Here is the Original Semitic Text. Guys, HERE is THE Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
My belief: the horn is the one mistake they should walk back.
I think horn, good clicky buttons instead of touch controls and a wider area to change reverse or drive or maybe also some buttons on back of steering wheel
you can quickly and easily palm the right side to honk the horn… this is why you read the manual for your 150k car.
@@shauncassidy3658 I can quickly hit my horn, left right and center without having to “quickly” read my manual. Just admit there’s no reason for Tesla’s shitty yoke design.
@@gdo3510 Someone else suggested it may be a safety feature. People often honk their horns before getting in an accident, and having your arm extended in front of the airbag may lead to unnecessary injury.
@@futuregamer25 I think this is a valid concern but someone not being able to instinctively honk their horn can also result in them getting into an accident they wouldn't have otherwise
The yoke is the Windows 8 of steering wheels. A company “fixing” what ain’t broken and forcing people to retrain to their dumb aesthetic of form over function.
Muscle memory is the main catalyst here. Give it a few days and people will get used to it.
@@HarrisonAdAstra i see ur defending teslas bad moves everywhere. fanboy? musk simp?
@@HarrisonAdAstra It comes down to the driver’s personality. Some are willing to sacrifice for fashion. Others can’t fathom investing in a functionally inferior design, even if they can adapt to it.
@@HarrisonAdAstra I think there's an easy partial solution here. Marques's issue is mainly with the buttons, not the wheel. And specifically, mainly accidentally hitting them when turning or other maneuvers. Tesla can reduce the press sensitivity when turning the wheel so that it takes a more "enthusiastic" button press to trigger an event. Not just turning, but just looking over the pattern of data they get on misclick events vs. the pattern of data they get on deliberate-click events in general for correlations. I imagine that they can get the misclick rate way down with some smart software.
I still agree that they should have gone with physical buttons for the steering wheel. The steering wheel is where things are supposed to be activated by feel, not by looking. It's when you have to take your hands away from the wheel that you're forced to look (unless you like to fumble around), and touchscreens are thus much more applicable away from the wheel.
Opinions are opinions, facts are facts, this situation is the former.
watching this 20% for the car and 80% for how entertaining his videos are, like legit I do like tesla but his reviews are genuinely the best ever
It’s like the *UNCANNY ZONE* of aesthetics vs safety. I personally see that when you can’t navigate instantly (hazards, gears, blinkers, etc..) it’s a safety hazard. Either fully and robustly automate it, or have the driver do it, conventionally. Those touch blinkers will be horrendous when trying to click them when the “yolk” is 180 deg. turned.
Just fyi, it’s yoke
@@LtdJorge it's yuck
It’s just unsafe
@@LtdJorge it's a "joke"
Not trying to be a jerk, but shouldn’t your blinker on before you start doing 180° turn? I teach driving skills to law-enforcement, and we always teach them to focus on the maneuver , finish it, then do something else and finish that maneuver, before moving on to something else. When I was in the Marine Corps we had a saying, divided attention, double the trouble.
"Uninvented the wheel."
-James May
I see a man of culture
Plaid has been my dream car for awhile now and that still hasn’t changed, but wtf is up with the steering wheel? This tiny tweak is going to steer a massive amount of people away from getting this car. How is it not obvious that it should be optional at the very least?
No, people would still buy this car...................its the apple of car company...............they decide and we follow..............no questions asked.......
My understanding is that Elon was a big proponent of this design decision. It can be hard to argue with the boss. I do feel like this is one of those times his personal preferences are guiding decision-making.
@@NinetooNine yea, it's not even that innovative or futuristic, i don't think it matters much what shape is the steering wheel, also i hate shifting through the screen.
I hate the yoke it’s stupid with the touch sensitive buttons
@@sunilnarine6313 Not true.
Model s is selling that well nor does Tesla even wants to sell it.
Great review and thanks for not repeating some of the obvious comments from all the myriads of reviewers - i think this is the reference plaid video - mahalo