I've never used the Brock panels. But, wonder if you used the correct type of sand. The idea of the sand is to allow water to move through it, without actually washing the sand away. That is done with coarse sand. Finer sand granules are very symmetric, and form a solid barrier for water. But, water is able to break through that, and wash the barrier away. Coarse sand granules have jagged edges that lock together leaving gaps for water to flow through.
I will definitely keep an eye on it. So far so good, even with very heavy rains. The instructions say to use "all purpose sand, also called leveling sand, paver sand, and step 2 sand."
@@jorgefarinas6071 Without the panels I would have had to dig another 4-6 inches down and bring in paver base to fill and compact. So the panels saved me all that extra digging and all the transport of that paver base.
Get your DIY projects completed by the time you're 60 because the DIY enthusiasm/willingness wanes as you age. I have many projects, but have been putting them off, and putting them off because I've lost interest in doing it my self. I'm 66.
I had a really bad lower back incident about 20 months ago. That's why I haven't been able to upload many DIY videos lately. Very slowly getting better. I'll be 53 next month.
Without a doubt. I’m doing a pathway now, and it’s a bear. Like this guy, I’m finding it necessary to use sand on top of the paver base in some locations just to keep things level.
NIce. Give you have the pavers and then bases they sit on fully covering the ground (plus sand below that) do you think the weed membrane is necessary?
I built this about 9 months ago and I haven't noticed any issues with movement or settling so far. Before I did this I found a youtube video where a guy revisited a Brock installation that was several years old and it looked great.
The Alliance Gator people specify compaction of the bedding sand (by hand tamping) but in professional installer videos they don't compact the sand. Can anyone explain?
The river rocks were more expensive than I would have liked, so if I was doing it over I probably would have designed the river rock borders to be a little smaller. Other than that, I'm happy with how it turned out and the functionality.
Thanks! I found the two colors at a nearby stone supply store (outdoorwarehousesupply.com). The manufacturer of the pavers (Pavestone) has a "where to buy" section on their website, but it doesn't seem to be complete. The place I bought from wasn't listed there.
I'm watching your video and looking to do this in my backyard. (small area for my grill) Did you purchase dirt after pulling up the grass? I am looking for a list before heading to the store. Easy video to follow. ❤️
Great video - One question I did have, you mentioned that you didnt leave a gap so no need for the polymeric sand, what was the reason for not gaping stones? I was kinda hoping I could skip that step as well if it doenst lead to any issues later on, but every video I find online mentions some type of gap during install.
I think different pavers are made differently. Many are angled or built with "false joints" designed to create a spacing wide enough for polymeric sand. Here's an article discussing joint spacing: www.sakrete.com/blog/post/applying-polymeric-sand-to-an-existing-patio-or-walkway/ The particular pavers I used have vertical sides and tightly butt against each other, which is a look I like. I am hoping the paver edging keeps them that way. BUT, if I see them moving after some use I may go back and reevaluate using polymeric sand.
The pavers are made by pavestone. My home depot carried one color. I had to go to a paver place to buy the other color. Pavestone's website can help you locate a local dealer. Good luck!
the thing i don't understand is, before pressing the ground, why not move the earth from lower direction to higher direction? why need ur neighbour's dirt?
Total cost was about $1600. Regarding mold, I found this info on Brock's FAQ page: "Polypropylene has a LONG life and is proven in many construction materials, such as pipes, geofabrics and rope. It is chosen because of its durability and its resistance to mold, bacteria, decay, cracking and in the case of pavers, compression."
The instructions say you can use paver base, which you can buy by the bag at the big box stores. I used paver base over the fill dirt to fill low spots.
Hi - They are 24" x 24" x 2" concrete pavers from Pavestone: www.pavestone.com/stepstones/24in-Square/737 My local Home Depot carried one color, but I had to go to a local paver dealer to get a second color.
The Brock panels lay directly on the sand and the pavers lay directly on the panels. (Sometimes the pavers were not perfectly level with each other, in which case I added a bit of sand between the paver and the panel.)
Thanks! I found the darker color at a nearby stone supply store (outdoorwarehousesupply.com). The manufacturer of the pavers (Pavestone) has a "where to buy" section on their website, but it doesn't seem to be complete. The place I bought from wasn't listed there.
I used the rebar as a guide for the screed to get the fill dirt level, then removed the rebar. For the sand, I ended up using two half inch sticks sitting on top of the dirt as a guide for the screed. Good luck with your project!
Looks good!! Where did you buy those paver stones from? Are those porcelain? Am looking for something similar but can't find them at home Depot or Lowe's.
Hi - thanks! They are 2" thick concrete pavers from Pavestone: www.pavestone.com/stepstones/24in-Square/737 My local Home Depot carried one color, but I had to go to a local paver dealer to get a second color.
About $1600 total. Broken down: $400 Brock panels $450 pavers $100 fill $650 river rock Had I realized how much river rock costs, I probably would have used it just between the sections rather than between AND around.
How much was this whole project? Thinking doing something like this or a deck… please let me know that overall cost. Thank you
About $1600 total. Broken down:
$400 Brock panels
$450 pavers
$100 fill
$650 river rock
It looks fantastic
There's now way a contractor is going to get things as level as you did. Good job on that! Why we DIY.
Aluminum ladder section works great as a long straight edge. For bonus points... Zip tie a cheap level.
Great job
WOWZA! Awesome Job, Kiddo! Very well done.
Amazing job! Love the look and the octagon cut into the patio is awesome. Wouldn't have thought of that!
Here in Texas also, it's amazing how hard it is to find free fill dirt. With all the construction going on, I'm guessing fill dirt is in high demand.
Yeah, I also have to borrow a vehicle to haul anything. DIY might be a good excuse to buy a truck :)
Wow, My best friend, I liked the video very much, thanks you for sharing, stay safe, stay blessed
Dang that turned out freaking nice
The level of detail in DIY was great 👍
Great video, that looks fantastic. You should use some mulch glue on the rocks to lock them in place.
Great job!!! You gave me a good idea with the river rocks!
That looks amazing…thank you for sharing.. yes Texas heat.., hey it could be worse…
Excellent so beautiful thank you so much for the ideas is hermoso Gracias gracias gracias Thank you thank you thank you
Nice, could put some cool lights blue or white by the river rocks We've been icing on the cake
Best explanation what to do. Super video
Wow! That is crazy they are that heavy!
Thank you for this video. It was very informative.
Thank you sir! This was very helpful! I think I'm ReaDIY to take on this project now!
Great project. I think I'll do this with some radiant flooring under the rocks.
You did an incredible job!!! Woooow!
That turned out awesome.
Great tutorial, and the terrace looks fantastic. Nice one matey.
Damn nice job like the contrast
That looks really good
Dang, amazing DIY work.
Nice work. I'm beginning work on something similar. Hope mine turns out as well as yours
Very nice. Looks GREAT!
excellent video
I've never used the Brock panels. But, wonder if you used the correct type of sand. The idea of the sand is to allow water to move through it, without actually washing the sand away. That is done with coarse sand. Finer sand granules are very symmetric, and form a solid barrier for water. But, water is able to break through that, and wash the barrier away. Coarse sand granules have jagged edges that lock together leaving gaps for water to flow through.
I will definitely keep an eye on it. So far so good, even with very heavy rains. The instructions say to use "all purpose sand, also called leveling sand, paver sand, and step 2 sand."
I'm curious what the purpose of the panels are? Does it actually save time and material ?
@@jorgefarinas6071 Without the panels I would have had to dig another 4-6 inches down and bring in paver base to fill and compact. So the panels saved me all that extra digging and all the transport of that paver base.
Wouldn’t you want the more granular sand to help with drainage?
The Brock paver instructions call for Step 2 leveling sand. Mine has held up well so far. Good luck with your project!
Very nice! Congrats!!!
Looks beautiful. Great work!
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Love this project! Curious what the total dimensions were including the river rock edge was?
15' wide by 20' deep. Each of the pavers is 2x2 feet, and the borders are a little less than a foot each.
Such a cool video. Thanks for sharing. God bless!!
Fantastic work!
Well Done! Thanks for sharing!
Get your DIY projects completed by the time you're 60 because the DIY enthusiasm/willingness wanes as you age. I have many projects, but have been putting them off, and putting them off because I've lost interest in doing it my self. I'm 66.
I had a really bad lower back incident about 20 months ago. That's why I haven't been able to upload many DIY videos lately. Very slowly getting better. I'll be 53 next month.
Very nice! Thank you!
Very nice 👍🏼
Clean work! Attention to detail always pays off.
how's the project holding up after a year? anything to report back good or bad?
Amazing work, great inspiration
Beautiful Job. I Love it.
Looks excellent man.
Great work. Would you say the leveling is one of the trickiest parts of the job?
Without a doubt. I’m doing a pathway now, and it’s a bear. Like this guy, I’m finding it necessary to use sand on top of the paver base in some locations just to keep things level.
Nice and well done
What to do if you have a ground-level tree stump with big roots left behind. How can those be removed before I do this?
I watched a guy who used the rebar for this 1/2 inch measure. Apparently it's standard.
Woow!!!😍
NIce. Give you have the pavers and then bases they sit on fully covering the ground (plus sand below that) do you think the weed membrane is necessary?
I have seen some weeds trying to creep through even with the weed barrier, so I would recommend it.
Great Job!!
Nice. Very Nice. 😀
Very nice.
very nice
Maybe a rope LED along the edges.
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How is this holding up? I am re doing my patio this spring and wanted to try out the Brock paver base panels but nervous about the durability
I built this about 9 months ago and I haven't noticed any issues with movement or settling so far. Before I did this I found a youtube video where a guy revisited a Brock installation that was several years old and it looked great.
The Alliance Gator people specify compaction of the bedding sand (by hand tamping) but in professional installer videos they don't compact the sand. Can anyone explain?
I went to high school with Phil Durt!
It is amazing how you did it. Can you tell me what stone did you use?
It's from a company called Pavestone. Their website will help you locate a local dealer. Good luck!
Beautiful job. How have you found the functionality of it all? Anything you wish
you did different?
The river rocks were more expensive than I would have liked, so if I was doing it over I probably would have designed the river rock borders to be a little smaller. Other than that, I'm happy with how it turned out and the functionality.
Great Video !! Can you please share where you purchased the cement light and dark Gray Large pavers ? I would love to purchase them!!
Thanks! I found the two colors at a nearby stone supply store (outdoorwarehousesupply.com). The manufacturer of the pavers (Pavestone) has a "where to buy" section on their website, but it doesn't seem to be complete. The place I bought from wasn't listed there.
Beautiful work! Very good and informative video. Thank you!!
I'm watching your video and looking to do this in my backyard. (small area for my grill) Did you purchase dirt after pulling up the grass?
I am looking for a list before heading to the store. Easy video to follow. ❤️
I pulled up the grass and then went looking for dirt. Hard to find, but luckily a neighbor was having a pool dug, so I used their leftover dirt.
Hi, I really liked the video. Is it possible describe the cost of this project? Thank you
About $1600 total. Broken down:
$400 Brock panels
$450 pavers
$100 fill
$650 river rock
not sure if i missed the part but what did you use for the border on the outside
What is the manufacturer of this patio system.. & where do you purchase it.. this is abt as simple as it's gonna get ....
Awesome ❤🇨🇦
How many inches did you have to dig in the beginning?
When you walk on the patio do you feel and flex from the panels ?
Nope, none. Very solid
Great video - One question I did have, you mentioned that you didnt leave a gap so no need for the polymeric sand, what was the reason for not gaping stones? I was kinda hoping I could skip that step as well if it doenst lead to any issues later on, but every video I find online mentions some type of gap during install.
I think different pavers are made differently. Many are angled or built with "false joints" designed to create a spacing wide enough for polymeric sand. Here's an article discussing joint spacing: www.sakrete.com/blog/post/applying-polymeric-sand-to-an-existing-patio-or-walkway/
The particular pavers I used have vertical sides and tightly butt against each other, which is a look I like. I am hoping the paver edging keeps them that way. BUT, if I see them moving after some use I may go back and reevaluate using polymeric sand.
Hi, where did you buy the pavers you used and what is it exactly called? Thank you!
The pavers are made by pavestone. My home depot carried one color. I had to go to a paver place to buy the other color. Pavestone's website can help you locate a local dealer. Good luck!
That's a ton of work! What was your materials budget?
the thing i don't understand is, before pressing the ground, why not move the earth from lower direction to higher direction? why need ur neighbour's dirt?
How do you prevent mold from forming under these stones? Is the rubber already mold-repelling? And how much did this all cost?
Total cost was about $1600. Regarding mold, I found this info on Brock's FAQ page: "Polypropylene has a LONG life and is proven in many construction materials, such as pipes, geofabrics and rope. It is chosen because of its durability and its resistance to mold, bacteria, decay, cracking and in the case of pavers, compression."
@@mdelgiorno Thanks! And for 1600$ I thnk this is great. I was expecting multiple times more. Good job.
Hello, I’m starting my project, before i lay the sand anything else i can use instead of fill dirt?
The instructions say you can use paver base, which you can buy by the bag at the big box stores. I used paver base over the fill dirt to fill low spots.
the river rock looks real nice but i dont think it will be a good idea when furniture etc. is used.
Nice job!
What’s the measurement of your project?
Thanks! It's about 15 feet wide by 19 feet deep. Those pavers are 2 feet by 2 feet.
Great video with excellent detail. One quick question, are you not suppose to use the plate compactor on the sand base?
Thanks! The instructions say to screed the sand layer rather than compact it.
So is it your experience that the Paver Sand from Home Depot will not work with the Brock tiles? Just had 30 bags delivered last week 😮
I would open one bag just to make sure there aren't pebbles/rocks mixed in. If it's just sand, it should be fine. Good luck with your project!
Great Job. I wonder where you find the pavers? Please let me know. Thanks
Hi - They are 24" x 24" x 2" concrete pavers from Pavestone: www.pavestone.com/stepstones/24in-Square/737
My local Home Depot carried one color, but I had to go to a local paver dealer to get a second color.
Nice 👍👍
Did that slope towards the house?
It slopes 3/8" per foot away from the house
It must be builder's sand or the like. On the other end of the spectrum is play sand which is too round to be supportive.
That's amazing transformation! How long does it take you too to complete this entire project?
More than a month but I think if you planned it right you could get it done in 2 weekends
What pavers are these
What size paver edging did you use?
I used these from Home Depot: www.homedepot.com/p/ProFlex-48-ft-Paver-Edging-Project-Kit-in-Black-1260HD-48C/203720013
Its hard for me to tell but are pavers flush to the ground or elevated?
The Brock panels lay directly on the sand and the pavers lay directly on the panels. (Sometimes the pavers were not perfectly level with each other, in which case I added a bit of sand between the paver and the panel.)
NIce work!... where did you buy the pavers? I have seen the light gray ones in home depot but never seen the dark ones.
Thanks! I found the darker color at a nearby stone supply store (outdoorwarehousesupply.com). The manufacturer of the pavers (Pavestone) has a "where to buy" section on their website, but it doesn't seem to be complete. The place I bought from wasn't listed there.
I want to do something similar. What is the total dimensions?
It's 15' wide by 20' deep. Each of those pavers is 2'x2', so that might help you visualize your project. Good luck!
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Overtime k that base would move you need 5" of grade A gravel packed then you apply the sand build like Rome build.😊
How deep did you dig and how much sand did you use?
I only dug deep enough to remove the organic stuff (grass and roots). On top of the weed barrier I used a half inch of sand.
Did the brock panels hold up ok from the fire pit heat?
Unfortunately it's been 100+ degrees here in Texas since I built it and I haven't been able to use it yet. Will definitely update when it cools down.
How much was this whole project?
I want costs at the end
Hi. Did you leave the rebar in at the one end of the patio, or remove it once the sand was level?
I used the rebar as a guide for the screed to get the fill dirt level, then removed the rebar. For the sand, I ended up using two half inch sticks sitting on top of the dirt as a guide for the screed. Good luck with your project!
Looks good!! Where did you buy those paver stones from? Are those porcelain?
Am looking for something similar but can't find them at home Depot or Lowe's.
Hi - thanks! They are 2" thick concrete pavers from Pavestone: www.pavestone.com/stepstones/24in-Square/737
My local Home Depot carried one color, but I had to go to a local paver dealer to get a second color.
What part of tx do you live?
In a suburb north east of Dallas
What’s is the dimensions on the patio
15' x 20'. Each of those pavers is 2x2 feet
How much all together?
About $1600 total. Broken down:
$400 Brock panels
$450 pavers
$100 fill
$650 river rock
Had I realized how much river rock costs, I probably would have used it just between the sections rather than between AND around.