The banter and build up has been great! Will be watching the Rugby Championship with more interest then in future years and looking forward to the November test.
Ireland are a top team! I can’t wait for the next meeting. Kudos from a Saffa in Dublin. PS, this podcast is quality, no unnecessary takes farming attention, just pure rugby knowledge!
Jamie Osborne is without doubt the player of the series, making his first team debut out of position in the most testing environment in rugby, against SA who win by drawing errors from kicks, he was impeccable, showed immense bravery and maturity and essentially doubled as a centre on some attacks, what a call from Andy Farrell.
He attacks the line with real intensity. His aerial game is top drawer and he has a huge left boot on him. Very exciting prospect indeed and just what Ireland needed. Keenan going with the 7s turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise.
They were absolutely brilliant. I feel the Boks were rattled by how good they were and just defaulted to kicks because there simply wasn’t a way through. Which in itself speaks volumes. Congrats Ireland
Whe you compare this dg to the Sexton 42 phases against France, we thought that was amazing, but it was incredibly hard work to get close enough for the kick, Frawleys was reminiscent of the ABS at their best, it was precise clinical excellence. If you watch Frawley seconds before Blade passes, he just stood looking around, not showing any sign that he was about to kick, not sure if this was to fool the boks defence, or just his demeanour, but simply unbelievable from Ireland
I'm 15 minutes in and these guys haven't mentioned Ireland's narrow, congested midfield attack. I believe that's what really won the game. Put under physical pressure, the Springboks tried kicking (not contestably enough) but the Irish just took possession and kept the ball moving like that game where you have to guess which cup the ball is under. The Springboks just couldn't stop the movement for long periods of time - depriving them of opportunities to attack. They only really found some parity in the second half before Ireland again thought smartly to get the ball back from the gain line for drop kicks. As a South African, I envy Ireland's attack the most.
Great to see Bernard, an influential figure in Irish rugby, calling out the farce at Leinster with Frawley, their best 10, not getting any game time there. Humphreys should launch an investigation into what’s really going on there, everyone can see that Frawley is a better player than Byrne apart from Cullen. Three years trophyless with that squad of players presents an obvious problem and it’s clearly the 10 jersey
Wasn’t Sexton at 10 for two of those three years? I agree that Frawley deserves game time at 10 and is probably better than Byrne (either of them) overall, but it’s not fair to blame Ross Byrne exclusively for Leinster choking in the big games.
Sexton played the 2022 CC final, when he was on the field they lead the whole game, when Ross Byrne came on they lost it. Byrne started the Bulls semi that year, which Sexton tried to come on and rescue but the damage was already done as they were too far behind. Sexton didn’t feature in a single knockout for Leinster last year, not even a single minute. The 10 is the most influential figure in the game, to say Byrne doesn’t deserve blame is just cringey and a bit delusional.
@@grahamshaw3802The reason the 10 is the most talked about position in rugby is because it’s by far the most important. Nothing to do with easy blame or any nonsense like that. Tight games come down to the 10 and if Ntamack was there for France at the World Cup they’d likely be champions.
Sexton was in place for most of those losses but yeah Frawley would be a better OH than either Byrne. It’s been quite obvious for a while. That said calling it out now doesn’t mean much as everyone is saying it now that Frawley put in an incredible end to the second test. Calling it out after the event.
It was a smart decision by Farrell to give Frawley the opportunity to try do what he couldn’t in the final minute of the CC Final. Motivation to slot it
Those Irish players needed that win after recent Champions Cup and URC disappointments. Irish rugby is in a good place. All they need now are more props to come through over the coming season.
Ireland were deserved winners from a Safa living in Kildare! Great podcast as ever. If you don't already, watch Keo and Zels for a very balanced, but unfiltered Safa view.
Ireland have come out stronger and I’m looking forward to Edogobo, Ahern, Izuchukwu and Will Conners coming into the forwards. Paddy Patterson I believe is one to watch at 9. Frawley should get lots of opportunities to start at 10 for Leinster and Osbourne should get opportunities at 15. Cain Prendergast should look to play 8 at Connacht. We need to unearth two quality loosheads and depth at 13. Potentially converting some of our 12s.
6:43 Lowe was in touch when he tried to keep that ball in. So that Kolbe try never should have stood. Also the Doris try was a try. Video footage has since shown it.
Great podcast lads. Very informative and very insightful all season. Especially Jackman and J Murphy. Neil a well-informed host who never gets ahead of himself. Yourselves and the Left Wing the best Irish rugby podcasts on RUclips. Beats some of the attention-seeking dross that Matt Williams and Ger Gilroy participate in on OTB. Enjoy the rest of the summer!!!
Leinster have been the natural leaders of the talent pool in the 4 provinces for a time now but the fact that they have underperformed at the finals level of competitions tells us that we need to change the emphasis, tactically and talent wise. The only way to do that is give players and combinations from the other provinces a go when the opportunities arrise.
Well Leinster are going to have to make a decision (one way or the other) about Ciaran Frawley. If they persist in shuffling him around the back line like they have been doing, I hope he moves to another team/province. I'm not sure how much more Leo Cullen needs to see of Ross Byrne in the 10 jersey but, apparently Andy Farrell has seen enough.
TBH I don't think their shortcomings are tactics or talent. They've done well in the finals they've played. The problem is the few % you get from leadership/coaches motivating the players and getting them to the right emotional level. Lancaster is a fantastic coach but he could never squeeze that few % out of a team to win the big games. Andy Farrell is someone who can squeeze that few % out. Leo = useless.
Immensely frustrating match to watch from a Springbok perspective. Ireland started well, but in the second 20 minutes of the match, the Boks had 6 22 entries and only scored 3 points. Ireland defended bravely, but the Boks were also to blame. The second half was much stronger and I genuinely thought we would sneak it. Well played to Ireland, they fronted up well and deserved the win (although I hate saying it) based on their first half performance.
God. Listening to that, the whole Leinster 10 position is ridiculous. Really, you be thinking the Irfu would have to step in and sort it. Madness Con and Ulster had to buy overseas 10. Wouldn't happen anywhere else. Also, you would have to question Cullen . How many times dose Farrell have to pick a player for him now. Cant seem to see a player at all. Even when he has total control of them with the best of coachs .
I didn't even know Osborne was 15 for U20 like only 2 years ago for himself and leo has been messing about throwing him in at centre and putting frawley at 15 (when he does play him). If I was the IRFU higher ups I'd have leo clearing his desk and being moved on. His selections are awful, his team has regressed and they've won nothing with the enormous amount of resources and talent they have. Absolutely pathetic.
Aidan Morgan a former NZ u20 who is 23 and irish qualified through his grandfather starts with Ulster this year. I've seen his highlight reel. Watch this space!
Interesting question now that we have seen Osborne at 15, might the semifinal against the Bulls have gone differently if he had been there for Leinster? O’Brien v Leroux was a noticeable mismatch in that game. On a related note, Bulls and SA both lost their last games that they were expected to win after losing Leroux, and Leroux played a big role in each of them winning the previous game.
Yeah this win proves that Ireland can win a World Cup Final. By beating the Springbokke in South Africa, with a clucth drop goal means they can handle high level Test pressure. Many Irish said their gretaest achievement in Test rugby was the NZ series win. As a Springbok fan im happy they still think like that, it means we won't meat them in Final 👏
They didn't seem to know anything about Ulster. Couldn't name any Ulster players when asked. They wouldn't even have mentioned Ulster if they hadn't made a note to mention it in their notes.
Frawley deserves the 10 jersey at Leinster. He is injury prone unfortunately so hopefully he gets a few seasons there to grow. The Byrnes to Ulster & Connaught.
not sure where this 'seeming perennial doubt' comes from, re Ireland's ability to front up physically to teams such as the Boks. They've been doing it for quite a few years now, vs NZ, France etc. Size & brawn is one thing, 'technique and 'smarts' are another. Ireland are def in the latter 'tech-smarts' group!
doing it for a few years now with nz - are you dreaming the last time they meet nz they lost - win two games in nz and Ireland think they have been beating the abs for years - pride comes before a fall - Ireland felt it at the RWC and they will feel it again
Don't get too excited, next time we see Osborne and Frawley will be a throw away game against Zebre where they play 12 and 15 respectively, guaranteed.
The tenacity of Ireland was top notch, even with injuries to top Team members Greatest rivalry imaginable here Yes, but for a third Test, hey?! Next time… Congratulations to Frawley for nerves of steel and honed skills when it REALLY mattered to the Team…👊🔥 and To the Team for keeping on coming back with fire ~ regardless of whatever defence or attack offered by the Bokke • Lastly, Andy et cie most certainly deserve much more than special mention > Remarkable is a total understatement Easy as you go yes NEXT TIME ~ some unfinished business here, most certainly‼️ 🪖
Did ye see pack.weights. why do we always assume they are bigger. Its irritating. If porter healy were pafici islanders we would cite genes🙄. If mccarthy ryan, kelleher, dorris henshaw were from south africa we would say same
It’s a fracture and we took our injuries in the chin after the first test! Including JGP out on foot of the injury he took against the Bulls! It’s a contact sport!
@@patrickbrennan911croc roll is foul play, period. Where did the Boks cause a fracture to an Irish player by doubling up on foul play? Anybody can be violent outside the laws with effect, the physicality the Boks brings is within the laws. Both players should be banned for 8 to 10 games. You'll be dead if the Boks start applying our physicality outside the laws... You are speaking to a South African, we see physicality and violence on the field from an U7 team and onward... You've got nothing on us.
How is this the best win when they beat the All Blacks in NZ to win a series? Beating the All Blacks in NZ is one of the hardest things to do in world sport never mind rugby.
So Humphreys and the IRFU won't make players move provinces against their will, but "they're not going to be looking too kindly on players who are happy to sit 3rd and 4th in a depth chart at a given province if there is a hole available to be filled at a different province"? Did you press Humphreys on what "not going to be looking too kindly on players" means exactly? What punitive measures might the IRFU dream up for players if Jamie Osbourne, Sam Prendergast, Max Deegan, Scott Penny, Jack Crowley, Robert Balacoune etc. dare to choose to stay with their home province? Surely you sought more detail out on this question with Humphreys? You said it yourselves, you can't make players change province, if they simply don't want to. I'm sick of this "needs to move away from Leinster to get more game time" dialogue across the podcasts. Please oh please change the record! I repeat, please let us know what Humphreys and the IRFU has planned for players who choose to stay where they are, if you have the neck to ask him/them.
The reason JGP couldn’t play was an injury he picked up by the bulls. The reason Casey couldn’t play is the injury he picked up against RG Snyman. Shit happens. If you can dish it out…. I don’t think the intention was to injure. Yes it was illegal but in the heat of battle. It’s a contact sport. I don’t recall the Irish complaining too much.
Marx out with fractured tibia (4-6 wks); Mostert out for 6+ wks with broken leg; Kolbe out 4-6 wks with lower leg injury; torrents of blood - Etzebeth & Mostert - you have to ask who was guilty of malicious & intentional foul play?!! Yet the Springboks are called 'physical & brutal'! Yes, Casey had concussion in the first test (not intentional), just like le Roux's concussion/HIA in the first few minutes of the 2nd test (not intentional)... but the rest is shocking and those who were guilty of intentional foul play should have been cited and properly disciplined. Two Ireland players executed the croc roll on Marx, yet only one got a mere yellow card. Totally unacceptable! Filthy, dirty, cynical play does not belong in the game. These cynical tactics need to be called out. The days of blaming the Boks for all dirty play are over. The Boks players are large and physical, especially in the scrum (huge amount of skill involved there by tighthead props like Nche), but the Boks do not purposely injure opponents. Not since Rassie has been coach.
@@patrickbrennan911 Several HIAs on both sides, but the rest of the injuries to Boks players was cynical foul play 100%. How the hell do you break a leg & fracture a tibia without the play being dirty & cynical?! Don't recall any Ireland players having bones smashed by the Boks?!! 'Shit happens' simply doesn't cut it. Illegal play (in the heat of battle or not) does not excuse cynical, deliberate foul play. Yes, rugby is a contact sport, but breaking bones is not OK at any level or by any team.
He was asked about lreland ..and by the way mate we are a country of 6 million people with rugby being our third sport so we lrish a very happy with we're our rugby team are at the moment
@garyoconnor8421 6 million? Where did you come up with that? Sorry it's a bugbear of mine, but fellow Irish people constantly getting the population of the island wrong. From Chat GPT, but you can confirm it yourself easily. The population of the Republic of Ireland in 2024 is approximately 5,100,000, and for Northern Ireland, it is approximately 1,900,000. This gives a total population for the entire island of Ireland of about 7,000,000. It's 7 million when it comes to talking about all Ireland, such as our rugby team. Not 5 million, that's Republic only, and certainly not 6 million!
Very strange, jackman completely wrote off Ireland had us down as a dying squad and said it. Now he changes his tune . It’s terrible that he can’t admit he got it horribly wrong . But hey failed player failed coach and now failed pundit . They write Ireland off at their peril as SA did 😂
@davidwalker2402 I'd prefer a pundit being cautious in analysis, rather than getting carried away and even arrogant like Jamie Heaslip did before the England game.
Lol, take away the last drop goal and these very same pundits crack down on their own teams performance in the second half and blame them for the worst discipline performance ever! 🤔
You are correct a one point win/ loss changes the narrative totally ....Brian Cody said that any of the top teams can beat each other on a given day....much fairer to say there was only a kick of a ball in it and it fell our way.
@@chucklombardo8167Ironically Lowe was in touch for the Kolbe try which shouldn’t have stood. That’s a draw, but also, Doris’s try wasn’t held up. It was a try. That’s an Irish win in the first test. If you want the footage I’ll share it!
@@patrickbrennan911 ya agreed mate I believe Ireland ae a better team than the boks there isn't much in it but I believe we beat them 6 times out of 10
Credit to Ireland....they are certainly one of my favourite teams to play against as a Springbok supporter.🇿🇦
The banter and build up has been great! Will be watching the Rugby Championship with more interest then in future years and looking forward to the November test.
JGP, Frawley, Hendshaw, Ringrose, Lowe, Keenan at 14 and Osbourne at 15 is a potential Leinster starting line for big games.
Fair play to you.
@@patrickcoote8441 I watch all Irelands games now because they are just so good .
Sa always sets the bar in physicality. I'm glad we have a new bar to strive for.
Ireland are a top team! I can’t wait for the next meeting. Kudos from a Saffa in Dublin. PS, this podcast is quality, no unnecessary takes farming attention, just pure rugby knowledge!
Another Saffa with fake humility
@@johno9761 you sound emotional… grow up 😂
Jamie Osborne is without doubt the player of the series, making his first team debut out of position in the most testing environment in rugby, against SA who win by drawing errors from kicks, he was impeccable, showed immense bravery and maturity and essentially doubled as a centre on some attacks, what a call from Andy Farrell.
He attacks the line with real intensity. His aerial game is top drawer and he has a huge left boot on him. Very exciting prospect indeed and just what Ireland needed. Keenan going with the 7s turned out to be a huge blessing in disguise.
Cant watch the replay of that drop kick 😂😂😂😂 heart break for SA 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 well done Ireland, amazing team.
Would like to see that first drop goal in slow replay....
I've watched it about 40 times so far. Different angles, slow motion ;)
They were absolutely brilliant. I feel the Boks were rattled by how good they were and just defaulted to kicks because there simply wasn’t a way through. Which in itself speaks volumes. Congrats Ireland
Couldn't agree with you more
Cool chat.
Ireland deserved winners after their first half performance.
Loads of talent in Irish rugby. The rivalry is truly alive.
Whe you compare this dg to the Sexton 42 phases against France, we thought that was amazing, but it was incredibly hard work to get close enough for the kick, Frawleys was reminiscent of the ABS at their best, it was precise clinical excellence. If you watch Frawley seconds before Blade passes, he just stood looking around, not showing any sign that he was about to kick, not sure if this was to fool the boks defence, or just his demeanour, but simply unbelievable from Ireland
I'm 15 minutes in and these guys haven't mentioned Ireland's narrow, congested midfield attack. I believe that's what really won the game. Put under physical pressure, the Springboks tried kicking (not contestably enough) but the Irish just took possession and kept the ball moving like that game where you have to guess which cup the ball is under. The Springboks just couldn't stop the movement for long periods of time - depriving them of opportunities to attack. They only really found some parity in the second half before Ireland again thought smartly to get the ball back from the gain line for drop kicks. As a South African, I envy Ireland's attack the most.
Great to see Bernard, an influential figure in Irish rugby, calling out the farce at Leinster with Frawley, their best 10, not getting any game time there. Humphreys should launch an investigation into what’s really going on there, everyone can see that Frawley is a better player than Byrne apart from Cullen. Three years trophyless with that squad of players presents an obvious problem and it’s clearly the 10 jersey
Tight losses not all on the 10 but it's a easy blame
Wasn’t Sexton at 10 for two of those three years? I agree that Frawley deserves game time at 10 and is probably better than Byrne (either of them) overall, but it’s not fair to blame Ross Byrne exclusively for Leinster choking in the big games.
Sexton played the 2022 CC final, when he was on the field they lead the whole game, when Ross Byrne came on they lost it. Byrne started the Bulls semi that year, which Sexton tried to come on and rescue but the damage was already done as they were too far behind. Sexton didn’t feature in a single knockout for Leinster last year, not even a single minute. The 10 is the most influential figure in the game, to say Byrne doesn’t deserve blame is just cringey and a bit delusional.
@@grahamshaw3802The reason the 10 is the most talked about position in rugby is because it’s by far the most important. Nothing to do with easy blame or any nonsense like that. Tight games come down to the 10 and if Ntamack was there for France at the World Cup they’d likely be champions.
Sexton was in place for most of those losses but yeah Frawley would be a better OH than either Byrne. It’s been quite obvious for a while. That said calling it out now doesn’t mean much as everyone is saying it now that Frawley put in an incredible end to the second test. Calling it out after the event.
It was a smart decision by Farrell to give Frawley the opportunity to try do what he couldn’t in the final minute of the CC Final. Motivation to slot it
Those Irish players needed that win after recent Champions Cup and URC disappointments. Irish rugby is in a good place. All they need now are more props to come through over the coming season.
Congratulations🎉 to Ireland from a South African🇿🇦. Rassie vs Andy Farrell 🤔 not Rassie vs Razor !?!!
Farrell is the much better coach
Brilliant Neil, Bernard & Johne . Looking forward to seeing you again next season
19:59 The positioning of Doris for that drop goal was perfect and perfectly legal.
Ireland were deserved winners from a Safa living in Kildare! Great podcast as ever. If you don't already, watch Keo and Zels for a very balanced, but unfiltered Safa view.
Ireland have come out stronger and I’m looking forward to Edogobo, Ahern, Izuchukwu and Will Conners coming into the forwards. Paddy Patterson I believe is one to watch at 9. Frawley should get lots of opportunities to start at 10 for Leinster and Osbourne should get opportunities at 15. Cain Prendergast should look to play 8 at Connacht.
We need to unearth two quality loosheads and depth at 13. Potentially converting some of our 12s.
6:43 Lowe was in touch when he tried to keep that ball in. So that Kolbe try never should have stood. Also the Doris try was a try. Video footage has since shown it.
Great podcast lads. Very informative and very insightful all season. Especially Jackman and J Murphy. Neil a well-informed host who never gets ahead of himself. Yourselves and the Left Wing the best Irish rugby podcasts on RUclips. Beats some of the attention-seeking dross that Matt Williams and Ger Gilroy participate in on OTB. Enjoy the rest of the summer!!!
Ireland were brilliant and deserved the win. Both teams livid up to the billing and we were all let down by World Rugby making it a two match series.
..Ireland didnt win ! ..it was a draw !
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He meant the 2nd test, not the series........
Greatest win under Farrell was nz in the 3rd test in wellington not even up for debate
Absolutely.
Even the 2nd test in NZ was way up there. What that tour accomplished will be spoken about for decades - not this win.
@@JohnSmith-wo2fz yeah that is irelands RWC - being able to win in nz 2 out of 3
Johne Murphy is a great guest. Hopefully Cullen has learnt his lesson and sends the A team to south africa this year. we want more bokire spice.
Leinster have been the natural leaders of the talent pool in the 4 provinces for a time now but the fact that they have underperformed at the finals level of competitions tells us that we need to change the emphasis, tactically and talent wise. The only way to do that is give players and combinations from the other provinces a go when the opportunities arrise.
Well Leinster are going to have to make a decision (one way or the other) about Ciaran Frawley. If they persist in shuffling him around the back line like they have been doing, I hope he moves to another team/province. I'm not sure how much more Leo Cullen needs to see of Ross Byrne in the 10 jersey but, apparently Andy Farrell has seen enough.
TBH I don't think their shortcomings are tactics or talent. They've done well in the finals they've played. The problem is the few % you get from leadership/coaches motivating the players and getting them to the right emotional level. Lancaster is a fantastic coach but he could never squeeze that few % out of a team to win the big games. Andy Farrell is someone who can squeeze that few % out. Leo = useless.
Immensely frustrating match to watch from a Springbok perspective. Ireland started well, but in the second 20 minutes of the match, the Boks had 6 22 entries and only scored 3 points. Ireland defended bravely, but the Boks were also to blame. The second half was much stronger and I genuinely thought we would sneak it. Well played to Ireland, they fronted up well and deserved the win (although I hate saying it) based on their first half performance.
God. Listening to that, the whole Leinster 10 position is ridiculous. Really, you be thinking the Irfu would have to step in and sort it. Madness Con and Ulster had to buy overseas 10. Wouldn't happen anywhere else.
Also, you would have to question Cullen . How many times dose Farrell have to pick a player for him now. Cant seem to see a player at all. Even when he has total control of them with the best of coachs .
I didn't even know Osborne was 15 for U20 like only 2 years ago for himself and leo has been messing about throwing him in at centre and putting frawley at 15 (when he does play him). If I was the IRFU higher ups I'd have leo clearing his desk and being moved on. His selections are awful, his team has regressed and they've won nothing with the enormous amount of resources and talent they have. Absolutely pathetic.
Aidan Morgan a former NZ u20 who is 23 and irish qualified through his grandfather starts with Ulster this year. I've seen his highlight reel. Watch this space!
Grubber kick was right desicion. How else would ireland get into position. Still groaned when he kicked it. Fair play to James Lowe
Interesting question now that we have seen Osborne at 15, might the semifinal against the Bulls have gone differently if he had been there for Leinster? O’Brien v Leroux was a noticeable mismatch in that game. On a related note, Bulls and SA both lost their last games that they were expected to win after losing Leroux, and Leroux played a big role in each of them winning the previous game.
Yeah this win proves that Ireland can win a World Cup Final. By beating the Springbokke in South Africa, with a clucth drop goal means they can handle high level Test pressure. Many Irish said their gretaest achievement in Test rugby was the NZ series win. As a Springbok fan im happy they still think like that, it means we won't meat them in Final 👏
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To be fair a car is a good option for podcasting. Self enclosed space with no distractions. That's providing you are not driving 😢
Jack conan also missing.another lion. Hope he's a happy father
If Cullen doesn't give him the number 10 the lad needs to think about moving
Hold the question on who moves . Politics is at play here . A level playing surface of that's possible .
In terms of people's perceptions of them as a team, it was the most profound win. I for one didn't think they had the depth to pull that off.
Nobody seems to be talking about the arrival of Aidan Morgan at Ulster and his potential impact on the Irish no 10 position.
They didn't seem to know anything about Ulster. Couldn't name any Ulster players when asked. They wouldn't even have mentioned Ulster if they hadn't made a note to mention it in their notes.
Frawley deserves the 10 jersey at Leinster. He is injury prone unfortunately so hopefully he gets a few seasons there to grow. The Byrnes to Ulster & Connaught.
not sure where this 'seeming perennial doubt' comes from, re Ireland's ability to front up physically to teams such as the Boks. They've been doing it for quite a few years now, vs NZ, France etc.
Size & brawn is one thing, 'technique and 'smarts' are another. Ireland are def in the latter 'tech-smarts' group!
doing it for a few years now with nz - are you dreaming the last time they meet nz they lost - win two games in nz and Ireland think they have been beating the abs for years - pride comes before a fall - Ireland felt it at the RWC and they will feel it again
Not the best win under Farrell imo. Wellington, 16th July '22 - chalk it down.
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Don't get too excited, next time we see Osborne and Frawley will be a throw away game against Zebre where they play 12 and 15 respectively, guaranteed.
Unfortunately , I fear you may well be correct
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Ireland pack was heavier.
Why are leinster trying to scupper ireland s progression
The tenacity of Ireland was top notch, even with injuries to top Team members
Greatest rivalry imaginable here
Yes, but for a third Test, hey?!
Next time…
Congratulations to Frawley for nerves of steel and honed skills when it REALLY mattered to the Team…👊🔥
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To the Team for keeping on coming back with fire ~ regardless of whatever defence or attack offered by the Bokke
• Lastly,
Andy et cie most certainly deserve much more than special mention
> Remarkable is a total understatement
Easy as you go
yes
NEXT TIME ~ some unfinished business here, most certainly‼️
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Surely Cullen has to reevaluate his selection
Did ye see pack.weights. why do we always assume they are bigger. Its irritating. If porter healy were pafici islanders we would cite genes🙄. If mccarthy ryan, kelleher, dorris henshaw were from south africa we would say same
But the South African pack is heavier! 🥴
So between Doris and Ryan they managed to break Malcolm Marx's tibia with the croc roll.... Well done boys!
Shitty troll.
It’s a fracture and we took our injuries in the chin after the first test! Including JGP out on foot of the injury he took against the Bulls! It’s a contact sport!
@@patrickbrennan911croc roll is foul play, period.
Where did the Boks cause a fracture to an Irish player by doubling up on foul play?
Anybody can be violent outside the laws with effect, the physicality the Boks brings is within the laws.
Both players should be banned for 8 to 10 games. You'll be dead if the Boks start applying our physicality outside the laws... You are speaking to a South African, we see physicality and violence on the field from an U7 team and onward... You've got nothing on us.
How is this the best win when they beat the All Blacks in NZ to win a series? Beating the All Blacks in NZ is one of the hardest things to do in world sport never mind rugby.
Frawley first choice 10. Prendergast second .wake up leinster and look to the future
So Humphreys and the IRFU won't make players move provinces against their will, but "they're not going to be looking too kindly on players who are happy to sit 3rd and 4th in a depth chart at a given province if there is a hole available to be filled at a different province"? Did you press Humphreys on what "not going to be looking too kindly on players" means exactly? What punitive measures might the IRFU dream up for players if Jamie Osbourne, Sam Prendergast, Max Deegan, Scott Penny, Jack Crowley, Robert Balacoune etc. dare to choose to stay with their home province? Surely you sought more detail out on this question with Humphreys? You said it yourselves, you can't make players change province, if they simply don't want to. I'm sick of this "needs to move away from Leinster to get more game time" dialogue across the podcasts. Please oh please change the record! I repeat, please let us know what Humphreys and the IRFU has planned for players who choose to stay where they are, if you have the neck to ask him/them.
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Great win. But ended the season for Marx with Crock tackle . Irish capt purposes was to injure him . Poor play Irish . Thats dirty
Since the year dot the springbok no all about the dark arts
@@garyoconnor8421”know”
The reason JGP couldn’t play was an injury he picked up by the bulls. The reason Casey couldn’t play is the injury he picked up against RG Snyman. Shit happens. If you can dish it out…. I don’t think the intention was to injure. Yes it was illegal but in the heat of battle. It’s a contact sport. I don’t recall the Irish complaining too much.
Marx out with fractured tibia (4-6 wks); Mostert out for 6+ wks with broken leg; Kolbe out 4-6 wks with lower leg injury; torrents of blood - Etzebeth & Mostert - you have to ask who was guilty of malicious & intentional foul play?!! Yet the Springboks are called 'physical & brutal'! Yes, Casey had concussion in the first test (not intentional), just like le Roux's concussion/HIA in the first few minutes of the 2nd test (not intentional)... but the rest is shocking and those who were guilty of intentional foul play should have been cited and properly disciplined. Two Ireland players executed the croc roll on Marx, yet only one got a mere yellow card. Totally unacceptable! Filthy, dirty, cynical play does not belong in the game. These cynical tactics need to be called out. The days of blaming the Boks for all dirty play are over. The Boks players are large and physical, especially in the scrum (huge amount of skill involved there by tighthead props like Nche), but the Boks do not purposely injure opponents. Not since Rassie has been coach.
@@patrickbrennan911 Several HIAs on both sides, but the rest of the injuries to Boks players was cynical foul play 100%. How the hell do you break a leg & fracture a tibia without the play being dirty & cynical?! Don't recall any Ireland players having bones smashed by the Boks?!! 'Shit happens' simply doesn't cut it. Illegal play (in the heat of battle or not) does not excuse cynical, deliberate foul play. Yes, rugby is a contact sport, but breaking bones is not OK at any level or by any team.
Lol... SA's best win under Erasmus is a World Cup x2. 😂😂😂😂😂
Pretty sure he wasn't number one for the latest WC?
@TheProtea09
It's not all about you! This is an Irish podcast!
He was asked about lreland ..and by the way mate we are a country of 6 million people with rugby being our third sport so we lrish a very happy with we're our rugby team are at the moment
@garyoconnor8421
6 million? Where did you come up with that?
Sorry it's a bugbear of mine, but fellow Irish people constantly getting the population of the island wrong.
From Chat GPT, but you can confirm it yourself easily. The population of the Republic of Ireland in 2024 is approximately 5,100,000, and for Northern Ireland, it is approximately 1,900,000. This gives a total population for the entire island of Ireland of about 7,000,000.
It's 7 million when it comes to talking about all Ireland, such as our rugby team. Not 5 million, that's Republic only, and certainly not 6 million!
@@dagdag3805 fair point
Very strange, jackman completely wrote off Ireland had us down as a dying squad and said it. Now he changes his tune . It’s terrible that he can’t admit he got it horribly wrong . But hey failed player failed coach and now failed pundit . They write Ireland off at their peril as SA did 😂
He’s regarded as one of the best pundits.
Everyone wrote Ireland off. Don’t be daft.
Very harsh! Jackman is the best Irish pundit, no waffle good analysis.
@davidwalker2402
I'd prefer a pundit being cautious in analysis, rather than getting carried away and even arrogant like Jamie Heaslip did before the England game.
@@harshbutfair8993 I’d prefer a pundit to admit he got it totally wrong rather than pretend he almost called it .
@@gtmoore380Andy Dunne better. He offers incredible insight.
This is an RTE podcast ....no women ?
Relax and get on with your life
@@nc3music920 I think his comment is tongue in cheek and relatively amusing tbf.
It's Mens Rugby so they need experienced players
Bernard jackman is a clown
Calm down niall. No need for that
No he's not.
Harsh.
Lol, take away the last drop goal and these very same pundits crack down on their own teams performance in the second half and blame them for the worst discipline performance ever! 🤔
You are correct a one point win/ loss changes the narrative totally ....Brian Cody said that any of the top teams can beat each other on a given day....much fairer to say there was only a kick of a ball in it and it fell our way.
It was the ref giving the boks soft penalties that allowed them back into the game that winning drop goal was justice for Ireland
You’d have done the same if that extra point for SA didn’t stand in the QF, SF or final of the WC. That’s the poetic irony of it! 🤣
@@chucklombardo8167Ironically Lowe was in touch for the Kolbe try which shouldn’t have stood. That’s a draw, but also, Doris’s try wasn’t held up. It was a try. That’s an Irish win in the first test. If you want the footage I’ll share it!
@@patrickbrennan911 ya agreed mate I believe Ireland ae a better team than the boks there isn't much in it but I believe we beat them 6 times out of 10