With the kickstand down open the battery compartment and install the supplied dongle in line with the battery data connector cable. Starting with the key on...turn the bike off, then back on again. wait until display boots up completely then follow these instructions for the various programming options. Regen Programming: The dongle will blink accordingly when you've accomplished the program. Note: The dongle takes a few seconds to read out the accomplished blinks in the programs below Brake lever squeezes are as follows: Level one regen braking = 2 short 1 long will yield 2 blinks. (squeeze brake lever 2 short and one long...the long should be about 4 seconds) Level two regen braking = 3 short 1 long 3 blinks (level 2 gives you regen in sport mode, but freewheels in eco mode) good compromise Level three regen braking = 4 short 1 long 4 blinks NO Regen = 7 short one long 7 blinks Turn ebrake sensor off - 8 short one long 8 blinks Turn ebrake sensor back on - 9 short and one long. 9 blinks Additional note: you can do all this programming without the dongle. Works just fine. I do it all the time. You just won't get a blinking confirmation light that's all.
Just did it! Super easy. I got to say, I was on the fence between the Segway and Luna. Luna was the first to sell these bikes so I went with them. I support them. I wouldn't want anyone steeling my business if it was me. So far, the customer service has been wonderful with Luna. Thanks everyone at Luna. I just got my Sur Ron today!! Loving it!!
For anyone who has deleted the kickstand sensor and the tilt sensor, this method still works. Even after upgrading to aftermarket brakes, just save the OEM brakes with sensor, plug it in when you need to reprogram. If you are mostly riding off-road, I suggest regen level 3, especially for downhill sections. Save you a ton of money on new brake pads.
U know we like this lol. Finally access to the controller settings, I knew it could be done. I will hav 2 get the diagnostic blinky & connect a brake switch
Thank you so much Luna. My buddy and I recently upgraded to new Sur Ron's and were so disappointed because stand up trail riding was just too difficult with so much regen. It's a complete pleasure to ride now. We ride mostly in the Sierras and change the bikes to full regen on sustained downhills. We use the kickstand as our e-brakes are disconnected. (The dongle isn't necessary)
Thanks for the video! Disabled my brake sensors as well as regen for more of a stealthy ride in the city. This information seems that it needs to be better presented as when I first looked up how to do this everyone is literally pulling the wires from the bike..
Well Done, I had no idea this existed. This was a great video, Luna Cycle is phenomenal, shipping took about a week.. sweet! they answered all of my questions quickly and efficiently.
Just a PSA: My bike was able to be programmed using the OTHER brake lever. Not sure why, but worth trying if you're having issues with the programming.
I drive a Prius and a big truck with a Jake brake. Using just mechanical friction/brake pads to slow kinda sucks. I feel right at home with my Sur Ron level 3 setting. Good explanation Eric.
Excellent thanks a lot now it feels more like a mountain bike and I can handle the bike better especially for wheelies as the regen isn’t pulling you down when You let go of the throttle, please ,,,, tell me what else can you do by going into the programs on the bike?? Thanks a lot
Hi man, I’m looking to turn off the regen but it isn’t working for me. Is it because I don’t have that programming cable with the led light on it? I’ve tried it with the kickstand way and the way being explain in the online tutorials and still nothing is happening. I don’t have the sensors on the brakes, it come like that on delivery and was brand new from shop in the UK. Will that affect anything? I’ve tried everything I can think of. I’d appreciate the help! Thanks in advance
Awesomeness !! I was wondering what that wire light was for !! Super stoked as this will really improve the riding options - Level three regen is too strong IMO for my type of riding on singletrack in CO - but now I can switch it on the fly just like a Segway !!! And don't forget about super smoky burnouts if you shut off the brake sensors !!!
Hi, I’m looking to turn off the regen but it isn’t working for me. Is it because I don’t have that programming cable with the led light on it? I’ve tried it with the kickstand way and the way being explain in the online tutorials and still nothing is happening. I don’t have the sensors on the brakes, it come like that on delivery and was brand new from shop in the UK. Will that affect anything? I’ve tried everything I can think of. I’d appreciate the help! Thanks in advance
@@MikeyHoldenMusic depends on what year sur ron you have. you should have papers where it says the build year. with the 2021 x-controller version you dont need any extras. do you have the streetlegal version? how i did it: -turn off bike -turn on bike - grab the right hand break once the cockpit says machine is ready: -regen off = pull the right hand breaklever 7 x short 1x long regeneration levels (motor break strength) Level 1= 2 x short 1 x long Level 2= 3 x short 1 x long Level 3= 4 x kurz 1 x long break sensor off = 8 x short 1x long break sensor on = 9 x short 1x long (please only turn break sensor off if you know what youre doing because not only can you hurt yourself but also destroy the bike.)
@@16LaFamilia Hi man, I have the 2022 model and I’ve tried it with it turn off then on and doing the pulls of the right break as instructed and I also tried the kickstand method, but still nothing. I have the off road version. I appreciate the reply man!
Nice vid, I wondered what that cable was for. I just got mine 3 weeks ago and love it. So much fun in the woods! Although I like the regen right where it's at but may investigate changing the brake-engine cutoff as it's a bit annoying. Don't know what the downside is of doing this but what the heck. Thanks Eric and Luna Cycle!
sweet can you guys upload more videos more often, i like to see the latest information and happenings coming out of luna cycle. im planning on ordering a sur ron this spring 2021
Does this work for the Sur Ron X controller? I’ve been trying to turn off regen on sport mode but no luck. The light blinks about 15 times and stops and repeats. Tried so many time last night with different variations, with the kick stand as well. Is there something specific I’m missing? Thanks
It just worked for me, turn bike off, turn it on, do the pulls, done. But if you want to change it again you need to turn off and on again before setting the new regen
I had trouble cause I was doing it slowly you have to follow how he does it here fast pulls all the way down and my foot peg was up not sure if it made a difference it took me like 10 tries without a harness.
i can’t seem to re connect my brake sensor so i only have the kickstand, i’m still not quite sure on how to turn off regen with the kickstand if you could please let me know a detailed way on how to 🙏🙏
just tried the bike with no regen and ebrake sensors off. Really liking no regen, but it absolutely punishes the stock brakes. Feel like they are about to split in half or catch on fire. probably both
My stock brakes were smoking after an intense trail ride. I had brake fade at the end of my ride and I looked down and they were smoking a little 😂 after cruising for a bit down hill with no brakes they cooled down and it was working properly again. Definitely need regen to help take some stress off the brakes. Especially when you mob down steep hills with a bunch of switch backs
Having trouble doing the regen. I’m able to get the light to turn off but it doesn’t so the 7 blinks then stop blinking again, it just continues to blink.
My surron just crapped out on me after a day and a half of riding it checked all the safety switches the diagnostic light stays on and doesn’t blink nothing on the chart about if the light just stays on
i had crashed my surron and messed up the front break and the bike turns on but dosent drive i think the bike thinks that the front break is pulled in i need to know on how to dissable the break cut off
@@electricbrother Hey, just got a Sur Ron and saw your comment. So basically, to regen brake it has to be on sport mode and that's it? And then EV switches it off? That's really cool - didn't notice that at all. I've riding down hills in EV mode assuming that was regenerative braking but it's actually the opposite apparently. I'm glad you can easily "coast" or go "neutral" by simply hitting the EV switch.
i’m sure you figured it out months ago but level 3 is how it comes factory, this is in my opinion to much regen for coasting, regen essentially spins the motor in reverse (I believe) to act as engine braking, and to slightly recharge the battery. i would reccomend more 1, as you can still save your brakes, but be able to coast. 3 is useful because where i live there’s a bunch of steep hills and it’s useful to burn off speed without using your brake pads 👍 2 would just be in the middle. as far as emergency brake cutoffs, this is for doing wheelies; and or wanting the ability to brake while also giving it throttle (stock allows this but to a certain extent )
Hi, I’m looking to turn off the regen but it isn’t working for me. Is it because I don’t have that programming cable with the led light on it? I’ve tried it with the kickstand way and the way being explain in the online tutorials and still nothing is happening. I don’t have the sensors on the brakes, it come like that on delivery and was brand new from shop in the UK. Will that affect anything? I’ve tried everything I can think of. I’d appreciate the help! Thanks in advance
@@MikeyHoldenMusic that cable isn’t necessary, the operation work well without it don’t worry. You have to do your break pulls about a second after you turn the surron on, your have to pull your lever entirely and release it entirely to enter a code. Regen : E1 : 2 shorts 1 long E2 : 3 shorts 1 long E3 : 4 shorts 1 long E0 : 7 shorts 1 long Kickstand C0 : 5 shorts 1 long C1 : 6 shorts 1 long Break sensors P0 : 8 shorts 1 long P1 : 9 shorts 1 long
Great info. Is there a way to disconnect kickstand sensor by programming? Not that I would leave it that way, trying to test whether it may be shutting down motor inadvertently, even with kickstand up.
hi, is it only possible to program the regen while all the 3 sensors are in place, i have 16 blink brake sensor error, right brake sensnor snapped inside lever, kick sensor damaged and removed. Thank you.
If I have the belt cover of it follow the steps exactly but the light stops blinks 7 time but then continues to flash . Did the code not work because of the cover? Or doing something wrong
Anyone have full programming on this x controller? It seems like only regen and brake can be programmed. Pretty sure it has more setting as in segway controller. I mean its pretty much the same controller but with bt apps support
you don't need the cable for this, it just will show you when the controller successfully is programmed. Having regen on or off is very easy to tell, without using a light as an indicator.
Can you plug the x260 Bluetooth doggle into the sur-ron lbx? I know the sur-ron has the same cable under the seat where the Bluetooth doggle plugs into.
My Regen is very strong in sport mode from the factory. I've begun to get used to it at 500mi. My area is hilly and so Regen is suitable and necessary for where I ride. I use eco mode rarely because the power limit is bothersome, even though that now does factory freewheel but limit kicks in approx 30mph in eco mode. If only there was a way to get full power freewheel in eco mode, and full power Regen in sport mode, then, I'd stop bitching about it 😁
@@garylinnert1574 What does full power flywheel mean? Where I live is very steep so regen is helpful & needed. Just not sure your meaning of flywheel. Do you mean freewheel?
Mine didnt do the flashes after i did the pulls but i got tired of trying only to find that when i went out and rode it was disabled anyways. Cool imho.
@@electricbrother same for me. But I can tell you what the 22 flashes stand for. Its just that your kickstand is in use. Did you solve the problem with enabling it?
so I got a sur ron oh the secondary market, when I try to change anything with the programming cable nothing happens, even the light does not change the blinking, it just stays the same and nothing changes, what could that be?
Will this work on 2021 x versions in Canada? I’m guessing it should… should you do the break one first then the regen or does it make a difference if you want both off? Thanks again
Hi, im a little confused. Ive seen some videos doing this without the extension cable led but here in a comment below its says you must use that cable in orther to make it work. I have the lb1e from 2020, have not tried the bike yet and i want to unlimit the speed(cut the green cable). Disable the brake sensor is a priority for me, i will ride trails up and down so dont want annoying cuts while braking and accelerating. So do i need the led cable? And where can i buy one? Or it will work without it? I live in spain and cant find parts easily sent here. Ohh! Forgot to ask, when doing this with the led conector , can you remove it after programing? Nice video! Thanks!
Wow nice stuff. I just ordered mine ‘this past Saturday. Standard stock. Will I have to enable the ful sport mode that I’ve been seeing on RUclips? Videos are nice and easy for us newbies and not too mechanically inclines
I'd love to be able to coast on flat ground but regen on the hills is just perfect. Wish I could just toggle it with a switch... Has anybody found a way to disable/ enable regen with the Sur Ron on the fly?
yeah bought a used surron and the wires were cut. No sensors. Tried jumping the wires and even though it reads 16 blinks as a brake sensor protection it will not initiate the programming.
For anyone that doesnt have the harnes, this will work without it. You just wont get the confirmation from the blinking light.
You save my day. harnes are out of stock. Cheers
Thank u i bought mine from a shop and it didnt have one but it had a short cable with a red light at the end but not like this one
With the kickstand down open the battery compartment and install the supplied dongle in line with the battery data connector cable. Starting with the key on...turn the bike off, then back on again. wait until display boots up completely then follow these instructions for the various programming options. Regen Programming: The dongle will blink accordingly when you've accomplished the program. Note: The dongle takes a few seconds to read out the accomplished blinks in the programs below
Brake lever squeezes are as follows:
Level one regen braking = 2 short 1 long will yield 2 blinks. (squeeze brake lever 2 short and one long...the long should be about 4 seconds)
Level two regen braking = 3 short 1 long 3 blinks (level 2 gives you regen in sport mode, but freewheels in eco mode) good compromise
Level three regen braking = 4 short 1 long 4 blinks
NO Regen = 7 short one long 7 blinks
Turn ebrake sensor off - 8 short one long 8 blinks
Turn ebrake sensor back on - 9 short and one long. 9 blinks
Additional note: you can do all this programming without the dongle. Works just fine. I do it all the time. You just won't get a blinking confirmation light that's all.
What ones the best for wheelies?
Can u turn off regon and e breaker sensor at the same time
Thanks for the information
Just did it! Super easy. I got to say, I was on the fence between the Segway and Luna. Luna was the first to sell these bikes so I went with them. I support them. I wouldn't want anyone steeling my business if it was me. So far, the customer service has been wonderful with Luna. Thanks everyone at Luna. I just got my Sur Ron today!! Loving it!!
Nice
Why don`t we see that in the Owners Manual? One person even made custom rear hub to avoid regeneration))
For anyone who has deleted the kickstand sensor and the tilt sensor, this method still works.
Even after upgrading to aftermarket brakes, just save the OEM brakes with sensor, plug it in when you need to reprogram.
If you are mostly riding off-road, I suggest regen level 3, especially for downhill sections. Save you a ton of money on new brake pads.
U know we like this lol. Finally access to the controller settings, I knew it could be done.
I will hav 2 get the diagnostic blinky & connect a brake switch
Thank you so much Luna. My buddy and I recently upgraded to new Sur Ron's and were so disappointed because stand up trail riding was just too difficult with so much regen. It's a complete pleasure to ride now. We ride mostly in the Sierras and change the bikes to full regen on sustained downhills. We use the kickstand as our e-brakes are disconnected. (The dongle isn't necessary)
How did u use the kickstand? I need to do the same
GOTTA LUV IT WHEN IT COMES FROM THE MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the video! Disabled my brake sensors as well as regen for more of a stealthy ride in the city. This information seems that it needs to be better presented as when I first looked up how to do this everyone is literally pulling the wires from the bike..
How do you disable brake sensors with the programming?
Yes, how did you turn both off?
how do you turn off the brake sensors?
Well Done, I had no idea this existed. This was a great video, Luna Cycle is phenomenal, shipping took about a week.. sweet! they answered all of my questions quickly and efficiently.
I have watched this video a few times already very helpful. Good information thank you.👍
Just a PSA: My bike was able to be programmed using the OTHER brake lever. Not sure why, but worth trying if you're having issues with the programming.
Awesome Video Eric you are the man!!
I drive a Prius and a big truck with a Jake brake. Using just mechanical friction/brake pads to slow kinda sucks. I feel right at home with my Sur Ron level 3 setting. Good explanation Eric.
Even if it's not regen, Electric Braking would be cool to have as a Standard for all E-Bikes.
Excellent thanks a lot now it feels more like a mountain bike and I can handle the bike better especially for wheelies as the regen isn’t pulling you down when You let go of the throttle, please ,,,, tell me what else can you do by going into the programs on the bike?? Thanks a lot
Did you take the e break sensors off too for wheelies or just 0 regen?
I love my surron 1 month of owner ship an I would buy another!
Thanks Eric! I was wondering why that cable was included with my Surron :).
Works on my 2022 + without cable. Thanks
Hi man, I’m looking to turn off the regen but it isn’t working for me. Is it because I don’t have that programming cable with the led light on it? I’ve tried it with the kickstand way and the way being explain in the online tutorials and still nothing is happening. I don’t have the sensors on the brakes, it come like that on delivery and was brand new from shop in the UK. Will that affect anything? I’ve tried everything I can think of. I’d appreciate the help! Thanks in advance
@@MikeyHoldenMusic Are you on a 2022? I used the front handbrake method. 7 short pulls, 1 long pull.
@@itsrelz yeah mate, it’s the 2022 model. I did try that but it didn’t work. The right brake where the throttle is, yeah?
Wow this bike continues to surpass my expectations every day. Can't wait to get one
Thanks I got my bike from a local shop and didn't get the cable. Glad it works without it
I was wondering what that little do dad did. great video. I like the idea of regen, especially if I decide to use the bike for delivery.
Awesomeness !! I was wondering what that wire light was for !! Super stoked as this will really improve the riding options - Level three regen is too strong IMO for my type of riding on singletrack in CO - but now I can switch it on the fly just like a Segway !!! And don't forget about super smoky burnouts if you shut off the brake sensors !!!
if youre from the uk or germany and have a 2021/22 bike it works different with those. we do it with the brakes and turning the bike off and on.
Hi, I’m looking to turn off the regen but it isn’t working for me. Is it because I don’t have that programming cable with the led light on it? I’ve tried it with the kickstand way and the way being explain in the online tutorials and still nothing is happening. I don’t have the sensors on the brakes, it come like that on delivery and was brand new from shop in the UK. Will that affect anything? I’ve tried everything I can think of. I’d appreciate the help! Thanks in advance
@@MikeyHoldenMusic depends on what year sur ron you have. you should have papers where it says the build year.
with the 2021 x-controller version you dont need any extras.
do you have the streetlegal version?
how i did it:
-turn off bike
-turn on bike
- grab the right hand break once the cockpit says machine is ready:
-regen off = pull the right hand breaklever 7 x short 1x long
regeneration levels (motor break strength)
Level 1= 2 x short 1 x long
Level 2= 3 x short 1 x long
Level 3= 4 x kurz 1 x long
break sensor off = 8 x short 1x long
break sensor on = 9 x short 1x long
(please only turn break sensor off if you know what youre doing because not only can you hurt yourself but also destroy the bike.)
@@16LaFamilia Hi man, I have the 2022 model and I’ve tried it with it turn off then on and doing the pulls of the right break as instructed and I also tried the kickstand method, but still nothing. I have the off road version. I appreciate the reply man!
Brilliant bit of electronic engineering... stay safe guy's and gals!
hey can you email our support team with your contact information joe? tell them to forward to eric
@@LunaCyclesLLC Although I may look the part of a dashing Ebike Aficionado, the email thang may elude me... but I shall try!
I have super high regen in sport and i cant get it to change. Takes me from like thirty five to zero in maybe twenty feet...
Can you guys do a video on how to turn regen off with the kickstand method because my front brake sensor got ripped out in a crash.
Hi, can I do this with out the light/device you have on your wire? :)
yes
I do not have sensors on break and Can I still do it with stand
Finally that’s what that thing is for had my bike for 2 years couldn’t find anything on it
Had mine 2 years my bike didn't come with this part 🥵
Thank you sir! I just got my surron a couple days ago.
Can you program eco mode? I’d like to change the ReGen.
Nice vid, I wondered what that cable was for. I just got mine 3 weeks ago and love it. So much fun in the woods! Although I like the regen right where it's at but may investigate changing the brake-engine cutoff as it's a bit annoying. Don't know what the downside is of doing this but what the heck. Thanks Eric and Luna Cycle!
sweet can you guys upload more videos more often, i like to see the latest information and happenings coming out of luna cycle. im planning on ordering a sur ron this spring 2021
Anyway, to turn the region breaking off if I removed my brake sensors
Hey is that the Sur Ron I ordered?! 😂 Awesome video and feature.
it might be...were you an in store pick up?
Thanks keep coming back to your change channel to remember the setting will take me a little while thanks though
Does this work for the Sur Ron X controller?
I’ve been trying to turn off regen on sport mode but no luck.
The light blinks about 15 times and stops and repeats.
Tried so many time last night with different variations, with the kick stand as well.
Is there something specific I’m missing? Thanks
I've got the same problem but just with the standard controller. Did you fix it?
@@hertel234 no have not yet, any leads?!
It just worked for me, turn bike off, turn it on, do the pulls, done. But if you want to change it again you need to turn off and on again before setting the new regen
For what it is worth you don’t need the little thing that goes between the battery to do this. You can do it without it
where can i get this cable when my sur ron has not to come with it
Ok what does "ebrake" mean? This bike doesn't have ebrakes it has a front and rear brake. Does ebrake sensor disable both?
I try programming 2022 Sur Ron x and it’s not working ? Won’t start
have you found a solution yet? i still can't deactivate regen
I had trouble cause I was doing it slowly you have to follow how he does it here fast pulls all the way down and my foot peg was up not sure if it made a difference it took me like 10 tries without a harness.
i can’t seem to re connect my brake sensor so i only have the kickstand, i’m still not quite sure on how to turn off regen with the kickstand if you could please let me know a detailed way on how to 🙏🙏
just tried the bike with no regen and ebrake sensors off. Really liking no regen, but it absolutely punishes the stock brakes. Feel like they are about to split in half or catch on fire. probably both
My stock brakes were smoking after an intense trail ride. I had brake fade at the end of my ride and I looked down and they were smoking a little 😂 after cruising for a bit down hill with no brakes they cooled down and it was working properly again. Definitely need regen to help take some stress off the brakes. Especially when you mob down steep hills with a bunch of switch backs
I have a 2024 Surron and it didn’t work for regen (it only worked for brake sensor). Any suggestions?
Having trouble doing the regen. I’m able to get the light to turn off but it doesn’t so the 7 blinks then stop blinking again, it just continues to blink.
My surron just crapped out on me after a day and a half of riding it checked all the safety switches the diagnostic light stays on and doesn’t blink nothing on the chart about if the light just stays on
How can I do this if I don’t have my brakes connected to the bike?
When bikes going to start shipping out
Depends on your expected date of deliver from the time you ordered. I ordered mine back in mid June (16th), and I got it late July (22nd).
Ordered mine from UK on 28th June and was supposed to get it on 6th August but the Sur-ron factory is 2-3wks behind🙄😭lol
Awesome, Thanks....I was wondering what the du dad with the red light was for :).
Thanks turning mine off today
So helpful. Thank you.
i had crashed my surron and messed up the front break and the bike turns on but dosent drive i think the bike thinks that the front break is pulled in i need to know on how to dissable the break cut off
Thanks for the video! Please tell me if it is possible to turn on the ebrake for eco mode, but turn it off for sport mode?
When you use the stand method do you start off with the stand up over the stand down? Thanks
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Anyone know how to disable the talaria sting brake sensors via programming? Thanks.
will setting the regen to max really offset the advantage of just being able to coast freely?
No
It depends on how hilly the terrain I think in flat environments freewheel is king
I have the regen on max. When I want to coast freely I just hit ECO mode.
@@electricbrother Hey, just got a Sur Ron and saw your comment. So basically, to regen brake it has to be on sport mode and that's it? And then EV switches it off? That's really cool - didn't notice that at all. I've riding down hills in EV mode assuming that was regenerative braking but it's actually the opposite apparently.
I'm glad you can easily "coast" or go "neutral" by simply hitting the EV switch.
I just got my Sur Ron a couple of days ago. Love it. Can anyone explain what each level does exactly and why someone would use each one? Thank you.
i’m sure you figured it out months ago but level 3 is how it comes factory, this is in my opinion to much regen for coasting, regen essentially spins the motor in reverse (I believe) to act as engine braking, and to slightly recharge the battery. i would reccomend more 1, as you can still save your brakes, but be able to coast. 3 is useful because where i live there’s a bunch of steep hills and it’s useful to burn off speed without using your brake pads 👍 2 would just be in the middle. as far as emergency brake cutoffs, this is for doing wheelies; and or wanting the ability to brake while also giving it throttle (stock allows this but to a certain extent )
thanks fir video
do you have charts programs for surron
What would be the best everyday commute set up?
Perfect great exsplaination . Thanks
Why isn’t this working for my xx model?
I just got mine! It has orange stickers and belt drive from new! Anyone else know if this is a special version or 2021 model?!
Still working for the 2021 without the harnes ! Speedometer confirm by « E0,1,2,3 »
Hi, I’m looking to turn off the regen but it isn’t working for me. Is it because I don’t have that programming cable with the led light on it? I’ve tried it with the kickstand way and the way being explain in the online tutorials and still nothing is happening. I don’t have the sensors on the brakes, it come like that on delivery and was brand new from shop in the UK. Will that affect anything? I’ve tried everything I can think of. I’d appreciate the help! Thanks in advance
@@MikeyHoldenMusic that cable isn’t necessary, the operation work well without it don’t worry. You have to do your break pulls about a second after you turn the surron on, your have to pull your lever entirely and release it entirely to enter a code.
Regen :
E1 : 2 shorts 1 long
E2 : 3 shorts 1 long
E3 : 4 shorts 1 long
E0 : 7 shorts 1 long
Kickstand
C0 : 5 shorts 1 long
C1 : 6 shorts 1 long
Break sensors
P0 : 8 shorts 1 long
P1 : 9 shorts 1 long
Great info. Is there a way to disconnect kickstand sensor by programming? Not that I would leave it that way, trying to test whether it may be shutting down motor inadvertently, even with kickstand up.
hi, is it only possible to program the regen while all the 3 sensors are in place, i have 16 blink brake sensor error,
right brake sensnor snapped inside lever, kick sensor damaged and removed.
Thank you.
I looked at website and can’t find the instructions or procedures for programming. Can someone provide a link? Tyvm
If I have the belt cover of it follow the steps exactly but the light stops blinks 7 time but then continues to flash . Did the code not work because of the cover? Or doing something wrong
Anyone have full programming on this x controller? It seems like only regen and brake can be programmed. Pretty sure it has more setting as in segway controller. I mean its pretty much the same controller but with bt apps support
This guy is damn near incomprehensible
I've got a bike that came out when the x controller came out. This isn't working for me.
Can anyone tell me where I can get the program cable to take my regen off ...I didn't get one in my charger box :(
you don't need the cable for this, it just will show you when the controller successfully is programmed. Having regen on or off is very easy to tell, without using a light as an indicator.
Can you plug the x260 Bluetooth doggle into the sur-ron lbx? I know the sur-ron has the same cable under the seat where the Bluetooth doggle plugs into.
What regen level do you like best?
I'm liking level one rn because it saves my brakes but still gives me regen
Isn't there more to program ? like power curves, cause the ON/OFF throttle is ankward
ERIC.... IS THE LITTLE BELT SPOSE 2 BE SQUEAKY WHEN U SIT ON THE BIKE N ROCK IT BACK N FORTH???..JUS WONDERIN IF ITS 2 TIGHT
Yes, if it stops squeeking, it's probably broken 😁
Put some 303 aerospace protectant on the belt. It will stop squeaking and make last longer.
@@sammcglothlin2178 .... already thought of that.... but.... gates does NOT recomend applying anything to the belts
Kept saying the instructions in the video. What video?
How is it programmed to remove the ebrake sensors?
Turn ebrake sensor off - 8 short one long 8 blinks
Turn ebrake sensor back on - 9 short and one long. 9 blinks
Do you know the codes for the Surron 2023 L1e model? Everything works but the speed unlock.
I also prefer to use the regen than the brake. Could you tell us about updating tires for a better grip
So I tried the 7 pulls and 1 long and all I get is 6 blinks back. Still staying at the same regen.
Crap. I got all excited at first...but then realized just how much I like the way it is stock. Cheers.
Try it with no regen and you will change your mind
@@CJMoto will do...gonna go out for a test ride now👍
@@CJMoto just got back and it is definitely less restricting...I am going to keep the regen off...cheers
My Regen is very strong in sport mode from the factory. I've begun to get used to it at 500mi. My area is hilly and so Regen is suitable and necessary for where I ride. I use eco mode rarely because the power limit is bothersome, even though that now does factory freewheel but limit kicks in approx 30mph in eco mode. If only there was a way to get full power freewheel in eco mode, and full power Regen in sport mode, then, I'd stop bitching about it 😁
@@garylinnert1574 What does full power flywheel mean? Where I live is very steep so regen is helpful & needed. Just not sure your meaning of flywheel. Do you mean freewheel?
I've got the sur ron x. Everytime I try to do the sequence the light never flashes the amount of pulls. Only continuously flashes. Any help?
I have same issue. I am trying ebrake disable, it stops flashing but never confirms with 8 flashes and does not disable the sensors.
Same here. Did you guys have any luck? Mine flashes 22 times after I do the 8 short 1 long to disable the breaks.
Mine didnt do the flashes after i did the pulls but i got tired of trying only to find that when i went out and rode it was disabled anyways. Cool imho.
@@electricbrother same for me. But I can tell you what the 22 flashes stand for. Its just that your kickstand is in use.
Did you solve the problem with enabling it?
@@hertel234 I didn't solve the problem yet. I think I just got tired and got used to riding it this way. Did you manage to enable it?
I have a problem with my bike I change the handlebar Electric trottle don't want don't want to work
Hi, can also the speed Limit ( throttle) be changed with this Cable without have to cutting the Green Cable?
Hello Erick does this work for 2023 LBX models?
Is there a way to have regen in sport but not have in for ep more?
so I got a sur ron oh the secondary market, when I try to change anything with the programming cable nothing happens, even the light does not change the blinking, it just stays the same and nothing changes, what could that be?
Hey did you fix this. I have a late 2020 model and tried programming and the led doesn’t blink
@@SharkTheatre yeah it's because the 2020 models don't support the different modes to set
This worked for my brake but when I tried to turn off my regen it doesn't work
what is ebrake ? is it different with mechanical brake? how many speed reducer system got sur-ron?
Will this work on 2021 x versions in Canada? I’m guessing it should… should you do the break one first then the regen or does it make a difference if you want both off? Thanks again
I will like any video with that beard in it.
Can the regen be set to freewheel via throttle and regen when the ebrake sensor is triggered?
did luna ship to germany ? i really want an bike from them
Regen slows you down to save power ??? It’s like an oxymoron 😜
Hi, im a little confused. Ive seen some videos doing this without the extension cable led but here in a comment below its says you must use that cable in orther to make it work.
I have the lb1e from 2020, have not tried the bike yet and i want to unlimit the speed(cut the green cable).
Disable the brake sensor is a priority for me, i will ride trails up and down so dont want annoying cuts while braking and accelerating.
So do i need the led cable? And where can i buy one? Or it will work without it? I live in spain and cant find parts easily sent here. Ohh! Forgot to ask, when doing this with the led conector , can you remove it after programing?
Nice video! Thanks!
Is it possible to set different regen settings for eco and sport mode.
Wow nice stuff. I just ordered mine ‘this past Saturday. Standard stock. Will I have to enable the ful sport mode that I’ve been seeing on RUclips? Videos are nice and easy for us newbies and not too mechanically inclines
I'd love to be able to coast on flat ground but regen on the hills is just perfect. Wish I could just toggle it with a switch... Has anybody found a way to disable/ enable regen with the Sur Ron on the fly?
Switch from Sport to Eco
Does the cable sensor have to be connected to the brake for this to work? I eliminated my wires for the front and back brakes.
Curious as well
yeah bought a used surron and the wires were cut. No sensors. Tried jumping the wires and even though it reads 16 blinks as a brake sensor protection it will not initiate the programming.