Beginners Guide to Leaning a Motorcycle Without Fear
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2022
- How to lean a motorcycle without fear for beginners
Follow these very simple to follow but game changing tips to significantly improve your ability to lean a motorcycle without fear
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Target fixation is literally a killer, great advice on looking through the corner.
How my motorcycle course told me to do it. It is a game changer for sure!
I dont shop there either
Target fixation is why you see so many Americans go off cliffs 😬
I was taught to point my chin through the corner and keep your eyes level with the road, where your eyes are looking is where the bike is going, braking and gear selection before entry then gently feed on the power on exit, top half of your body relaxed, do not death grip the bars you will get fatigue and pins and needles in your hands and your cornering and manoeuvring will suffer as the top half of your body is now rigid and tense (I am still unconsciously doing this from time to time as a newish rider and have to keep giving my self a bollocking). I would say learning to relax is the hardest skill I have found as a new rider. Road position, organising your muscle memory for clutch, throttle, braking and balance improves with repetition and experience. Thanks for posting enjoyed the content.
This is a great video for beginners. I like that you don't need to brag and get people into trouble but just advise people to ride their own ride. This is so true. The bike community need more people with this healthy attitude. Good job mate.
Physics n3rd here:
At the lean angles shown in this video (30-odd degrees), without accelerating or braking, your're loading the tyre to about 0.6g. That's about half of what a decent tyre can take under nice-ish conditions. Even when it's wet (and it's been raiming for an hour or so) you can get at least 0.9g out of good rubber. You might be in trouble if it's only just started raining after a long period of hot weather, when the rain lifts out all the dirt and grease. That makes the roads quite slick. But it should wash away after 15-30 minutes of good rain. Even in those conditions though, 20° should be safe enough, the lateral load goes down to under 0.4g.
In other words, don't worry about it 😉. Or as my instructor used to say - "You'll run out of skill before you run out of grip.".
Both of my instructors for my MSF course are exceptionally good riders, one is literally a white-haired old man who’s fully capable of scraping pegs with knobbies on a KLR650, and they gave the absolute best advice ever for when you believe you’re carrying too much speed into a corner:
Look harder, press harder.
Most people would be very surprised by just how much speed a bike can roll through turns with. When in doubt, look harder and press harder. MUCH safer than any other in-the-moment options.
Press harder as in harder into the lean? This is where I struggle so curious exactly what you mean
Look through the turn and press forward on the inside handlebar. If you’re making a left turn, you’re pushing forward on the left handlebar.
The "100 points of grip" video you can find on youtube made me believe in tire grip, when the instructor is basically doing a plank on a tire at a 45deg angle against the track and it's just PLANTED, and as long as you're smooth and steady it stays planted, but over-throttle or suddenly brake, any short duration change and (he RAPS the tire with the other hand and it breaks traction and he falls).
@@ryannafe9252 so why didnt you say so
Counter steering is all u need and makes cornering so easy and less work
Good point, counter steering is a game changer down the road
Yes push down on the right handlebar when taking a right hand bend to lean the bike in.
@maverick2352 handle bars go left and right. I've never seen a bike where they went up and down. You should your bike checked out lol
Before you do any corner work check air pressure on tires and carry speed through the apex and accelerate smoothly from the apex no gas no brakes until you get better
Excellent. I recently got my first big bike and I gave this a go the other day. I'm now able to maintain a safe higher speed on corners without a car up my backside ( I was slowing down far too much due to confidence). I'm now starting to enjoy the corners rather than dreading them. I'm going out on the R6 later to give it another go.
Thanks for taking the time to post this 😁 I passed my Mod2 in October and I've been doing EVERYTHING you've said NOT to do at the start of the video 🤣
I've taken advantage of the dry roads and went out for an hour this afternoon. I applied everything you explained on this video and I enjoyed my ride and increased confidence so, so, so much more 👌👌
Thanks so much man 😁💪
This is what it's all about!!
Excellent video, thank you. I usually slow down way too much for corners and tense up, so hopefully this will help me loads.
Just wanted to say a massive thanks. I've watched countless videos about cornering, but it was the bit in yours where you said you could do a much bigger angle that nailed it. Today was the first time I thought meh, I'll try, and I nailed it... so HUGE thanks to you :)
Good straight to the point video.
I've been riding 7 years and dropped the bike on a corner a few weeks ago whilst riding out with a pal .Got fixated on back of his bike as he went round and I ended up in ditch
Since then I've been scared of tight corners and my body stiffens up . Need to get that confidence back , not only in myself , but in my bike as well.
Has it gotten better for you? After I crashed on a roundabout, I have also became scared of tight corners or difficult turns to the point that I lost confidence in my riding and stopped riding all together even about 8 months after. Since then I have ridden a moped 3 times only but am saving for a 125 in a few months hopefully so I want to regain my confidence
@@5speedsimracer Yeah I carried on riding but every tight corner and roundabout for a long time after I was almost panicking and felt I'd go over again. Got better with time but the bike just wasn't for me anymore after that. Was a triumph Daytona. Lovely bike tbh but I sold it and got myself an upright naked bike (GSR750) and it's so much better now . Confidence has returned
I sold that bike and got myself a naked bike (z900)
i almost ate shit in the same way. i find it hard to not fixate on cars or bikes infront of me
This is useful info and guidance.
Road positioning was an issue I had, and almost all others on RUclips have too.
Cutting across corners is not ideal, the ideal is sight line and extension to vanishing point. I.e. bend to right, be left, bend to left be right.
The police bikes are brilliant at it, I'd recommend anyone to chat with them and ride with them.
i got caught in the rain a few days ago on my 125cc and came off on a roundabout at a lean. as a beginner this massively tanked my confidence cornering ESPECIALLY coming off roundabouts. i know the weather played. huge part, as well as my tires being a lot thinner than a higher CC Motorcycle too, but i think there’s a chance i was on the break, or tried to take the power off mid lean and i definitely looked at the corner rather than past it. so tomorrow im going to put these tips into practise to hopefully get back to the level of confidence i had pre slide, which was still nothing special
Thank you so much for this video buddy. I have been riding for a while now and corners have always made me tense up, especially right handers 😥. I am a very rigid rider naturally and I struggle to see through the corner. Watching this has given me a few tools to practice next time I am out 👌
Look at MotoJitsu RUclips channel.
As suggested in video find a road with many bends, hold a speed and look to just relax and flow. Move your head out of the centre of the bike
@@taureanwilliams2900 no don’t. Plonker
@@bignosecrisuk5860 what are you on about ? MotoJitsu is a solid channel. 👌 your choice tho 🤷♂️
Such a great video that will help a lot of riders. Well done
Cool vid , im 1 week into riding my gixer 600 l5, cornering is improving every ride - took it to Rye thursday as it goes!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Getting back on the bike next Wednesday, when I get my 2019 Street Triple RS (found you through the review) being dropped off up in Leeds from Triumph East London. Nipped out to the shops today in the car to pick up the gear and now I'm home, its all very real and the fear has set in! This was the perfect video at the perfect time. Done a lot of road miles on the bike in my twenties, but now at 41 need to make sure I relax and ride my own ride... great advice. Wish me luck for next week!
I found "Rye" after watching his 765 street triple review.
I bought mine last Saturday, oh man what a bike 🏍!
Love to hear this and what a great choice of bike to get back into riding too. Enjoy
Yeah I'm 52 years old and really I got my first geared bike it's only 100cc Honda win two years ago a year and a half ago and I saw this 3 days ago and I went fromYogyakarta to Muntilan and back to Yogyakarta via Purworejo, pretty much flat out the whole way and adopted this style of pouring rain just basically looking where you want the bike to go and it was like it was just all semantics I wasn't turning I wasn't breaking I wasn't coming off the gas it was just going where I wanted it to go and I feel so much better writer for this single-added technique. So thank you very much for this video also the video I just watched all of your Ri1000 yes I think if you lift the camera up an inch on an extension so you don't see the speed of rattling around you just see the top half of your body will be much nicer to watch for those with a bit of OCD....
Thanks Rye, that’s sound advice.
There is so much to consider when cornering but great fun. It would be good to cover the safety factors such as road positioning for best view ahead, watching the road surface, not looking at a tree when you think that you over-cooked a bend etc.
Yes! You should also do a raw video of 10 minutes with this beast, you know a video for us to listen while going to sleep lol
this video made me get up and go master cornering with full confidence. thank you.
great video, nice to see roads that i know well too
Thanks mate, really helpful 👍🏻
I rode that road yesterday too, lovely day for it. May see you about one day.
Wow nice video bro !
Good advice 👌🏻👍🏼
Great vid m8 , some v good tips there esp maintining speed through the turn and body positioning , def bikes can be leaned way more than we think as a beginner. Most important is to try and stay relaxed.
Thanks, super video
Excellent advice video for this born-again biker. I know that road v well btw, its not far from my home!
Excellent advice and a great explanation, love you channel dude 👍🏻👏🏻
Appreciate it!
Brilliant video
More of this bud 👍🏼
Yessss! Thank you. I just bought my first bike - 2020 Street Triple 765RS - namely due to your videos. Love the bike but corners get me. Gives me something to try and test out. Safe riding bro
You didn’t watch his video then on is the 765rs a good beginners bike..🤣
@@MrBricey25 That would have been against my agenda at the time 😅
Very nice, straightforward presentation, thank you.
If I may, I would add one thing, and that is don’t take the corner before you reach it. I had a very bad habit, which many beginner riders have, of leaning far too early and running wide.
After many years of riding, I still have to remind myself to wait and let the corner come to me, then push the inside bar and let the bike lean.
I’ve now subscribed, and looking forward to your next video.
Hi there, unfortunately I've just had ago today at my MOD 1 training but the instructor felt I wasn't ready due to confidence. Whilst on the road he said I need to trust the bike more and lean. Don't worry about countersteering but learn to lean. I have a 125, would this video work on the 125 as well? Thanks
more videos like this for us beginners please pal
New rider here . Love the explanation 👊🏽
Thank you
Great video mate. I am usually more comfortable doing counter steering and I can easily turn any bend. I am wondering when to counter steer and when is best to lean?
Great content 🤙🏻👍🏻
Yes 😎
Omg mate I haven’t seen your videos for a while but when I heard lean, I had to click lol
Gonna binge watch a few tonight lol
Nice one yeah just wanted to give a couple of my own tips to help out beginners. No knee down stuff for you here 😅
@@BikesofRye lol 😂
holy shit the bike looks good in the intro/from the side!
I am riding for a month now, i was leaning into every cornet like crazy, no fear at all, well i lowsided my bike week ago, i am way too scared to lean in corners now... idk what to do really but i will figure it out
New rider after passing my test 27 years ago. Nervous ninny on corners and junctions so this is a good one for me.
I never realized that i was riding and taking turns with my arms stiff and locked out until I watched this lol
I have a Benelli Leoncino 500 - sometimes I feel a tiny bit of wash usually on the rear in some corners, I don't know what causes it or what I am doing wrong? Any advice?
Looks like Baldock to Buntingford, awesome bit of road.
You know 😎
Random question... I have a 2018 r6 and I've noticed that the lower my TCS setting is, the further I can lean my bike. That is because? From 3 to 2 is a massive difference for me. Am I not operating the bike properly or is that normal?
Nice of course too.
Are you subconsciously counter steering aswell when your leaning ?? Awesome vid man!!!!
Live in the US. Knew you were in the UK. Knew you were in the UK. Knew you were in the UK. That very first turn in the video made me nervous for you for a split second as my mind still saw a car coming at you in YOUR lane HAHA! Thanks for the video!
I know that road very well! May see you there sometime mate
Look forward to it!
Good stuff
Im 29, have rode my z400 four times on the road vs the parking lot. Only been on it alone twice. My biggest concern is Rev matching on a downshift and sharp cornering. Im still a noob and admit right where im at with it and wonder if ill ever catch up to high skill levels. Ive practiced off and on since 24 years old but never on heavy roads and traffic until lately. Im mature and way calmed down with my ADHD.
so when ypur going into a corner and you think your not gonna make it should you twist the throttle
my biggest issue is fear of the unknown. when the corner is open (i.e. there are no trees or anything) and i can see where it goes i can go quite fast round it. but when i don't know what is coming i end up slowing right down incase the corner radius changes. this has never been an issue in the car as i know i can quickly adjust my cornering radius. is this something i will get over naturally?
My first motorcycle accident was pretty bad and I think target fixation was to blame.. i froze just went straight at the curb. Still hurting and anxious about riding after im healed up. I rode 10mph all the way home after that and havent rode yet since (mostly because im actually injured) I only rode back because of adrenaline
are you counter steering?
Love your video's but please cover your Speedo. Rear brake in corners video next
Well done, IAM 4U, next, recomeneded.
great advice for beginners, was that the A507? What a great road.
Thanks! Yes just outside Baldock it's a great stretch of road
@@BikesofRyeHahaaa thought i recognised that road love going up and down there, we nick named it the TT 😂😂
Braking mid corner is the one thing that scares new riders. As soon as you learn to finish braking BEFORE you lean it's a revelation.
My issue I'm having is I've been riding for 12 years and never had an issue until last year when I had an extremely low speed high side. I know it happened because I had new, still oily, tires and it was a cold morning. But I've noticed I've been really gun shy about leaning now especially when I see any moisture or gravel on the road
Good video, but i think for most people its being to scared to lowside and cant afford another bike f it happens. Definitely what goes through my head
I rode that road last night to practice my cornering. Still feel like my body is stiff and not moving on the bike. Think I will watch this 100 times more.
Yea, 12 months riding now y this is something I’d like to improve on to have a better, more relaxed ride
Thats all very well, but here in Devon, and probably elsewhere, we come across gravel randomly and on a regular basis- almost always in corners..
I know that road very well, it gets really busy at rush hour not that the video shows that - the traffic scrubs the gravel away. Outside of rush hour its a lovely road as per the video, though there are a couple of pot holes to watch out for lately. Its a really popular hack at weekends and you can grab a coffee or a fry-up at the Silver Ball caff weekend mornings. Totally agree with your comment about Devon roads, I visited last summer!
wow!! 🙏🏽
You should consider talking about counter steer 👍🏻
I may well address this in another video for more confident riders thanks
Hows the new bike better than the street
Interesting front cam position… I’ll copy you on my s1000! 😅
Need a slightly longer extension arm almost perfect
Drag that rear brake, don't be afraid to use it in the corners to aid cornering and carrying speed!
Great video. The only thing I would say you ‘missed’ in the intro was that while you’re ‘loose’ (I agree with that) a rider should grip the tank with their knees (or at least practice it as an ability to be stable in winds and cornering and to keep your arms loose.
(Edit) - a good other tip for new riders is warm up your tires for 15 minutes and prepare them a bit before going out and cornering. Plus use high quality tires always. Michelin Pilot Road are the way to go for most bikes IMHO
Cheers
My question is why you’re in the UK with the speed indicator in MPH
Is that an automatic bike?
Trail braking. ??
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Nah, my problem is that i lean it too much and hit the ground with my foot... I am in motorcycle school, and this often happens when i do U turns. I am on a chopper motorcycle. Advice?
What lean angles have you had on the dash/ app?? Great bike.
Most I have seen is 42
@@BikesofRye That's quite impressive. For the road. Roll on summer. Me and my mate have both just got the same bike.
There are some checklist point which you should perform:
1. slightly slow down closing the gas
2. look far behind the corner
3. when approching to the apex countersteer with leaning as far as need - narrower curve more lean
4. after you pass the apex slightly and gently increase power and unlean
5. In narrow corners of your bike is equipped with cornering ABS you can continously brake with front brake when start leaning
6. A least once a year take a track day
Kind of ironic how every single motorcycle instruction video they break traffic laws constantly. Anyway good advice.
4:03 haha brave
Just watch twist of the wrist by Keith code. Or anything by champ school, motojitsu and life at lean on cornering. This is the perfect example of what not to listen to.
The title is for beginners to get over their fear of leaning a motorcycle.
@@BikesofRye no offence but if their that scared they should be taking more courses.
Counter steering is a basic method and that's what gets the bike leant over. A big part of your vid was wrong and could lead to beginners having accidents.
Please leave the instructional videos to the pros.
And from what I saw I should check out Motojitsu.
Every day's a school day
Pace/speed determines everything
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I do have a paranoia about mid corner gravel
Those narrow UK roads scare me
I'm gonna buy a scooter so I don't think I nees this kind of skill set until much later when I buy a bigger motorcycle but this makes me think that motorcycle riders need to be more skillfull than your average car rider
Idk why my bike feels stiff to lean it feels like we're arm wrestling I'm 15 on a KTM duke 390 btw
Practice in a pedal bike might help
I mastered left handers just not right handers, found myself in the middle of the road and not felt comfortable
Your over more on ya left as well in the vid
Even if you are an advanced rider you should not break in the corner. That will make the bike stand up and want to go straight.
@@BikesofRye if one can avoid breaking in the curve it is always better in my opinion. You should be able to speed check before the curve and not destroy the momentum in the bend. If you have to break you have not planned well. A motorbike performs the best when not interfered with. Especially in a curve.
Cant see rear u need a cam in back
Watching this bc I fell 1 month ago and and Im scared af to lean again
I enjoyed the video, but' there needs to be a video of you riding a Fatboy and doing these corners.
Trust the rubber. 🙃
Practicing leaning my bike at freeway speeds. On sharper bends 55mph ( too slow) feels possible & proper, but 70!!? Everything in me says no. But I see other cyclists doing it, so it must be possible.
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