This video couldn’t have come at a better time. I just upgraded to the qr2 and since Fanatec is out of stock of their qr2, I purchased this one as well. It’s cheaper than the normal qr2 and free shipping to the US. Still baffles me how Fanatec doesn’t offer free shipping in 2024 especially with the price you’re forking over for their products.
@@EM_Karting good point but my parts are way outside of the warranty period. Regardless of warranty, DYOR and you’ll be surprised to find a ton of awesome and reliable 3rd party supporting mods i.e. pedal dampers, shifter mods, magnetic paddles etc
The Fanatec QR2 is a chinese knockoff of the Krontec QR3 in the first place. So it really shouldn't be a surprise that the aliexpress feel and function nearly the same as the actual fanatec ones.
Well there you go. I am surprised this hasn't been mentioned before. Well done. The Krontec QR3 is more expensive but that is beside the point when you consider how long Fanatec said they were "Developing" it.
@@untrainedprofessionals2374 Sometimes i really wonder, do they really take the time off to redesign the existing QR available on the market or they just rebrand a QR that is currently selling and make it theirs.
Just wanted to say thank you to all the comments in this video and @randomcallsign for making this video. Ended up buying this exact one for my CSL DD and I couldn't be happier with the initial purchase! Now to put it through its paces and see the long term durability. The package and all the parts look almost identical to the fanatec offical QR2. It feels like they are getting the parts from the same manufacturer and just changing up the release shape.
People always refer to these as "knock-offs", "copies", etc. The fact is, some of them are EXACTLY the same as Fanatec's, but without the "$170 markup because it says 'Fanatec'". I have several $50 QR2's from Aliexpress, and I can't tell any difference at all in most of them... right down to the labeling and minor details on the box and the tool packet that comes with them. The only difference I've noticed after hours of driving is that my wallet is a lot happier. Not to mention, most sellers on Aliexpress actualy respond to emails and are HAPPY to fix customer complaints from what I've seen :)
I bought the black one at a discount for $40 with free shipping.. A little more than 7 months ago... It cannot be broken, I tell you that right away.. It can withstand 32nm with easeThe main thing is not to forget to install the round plastic that comes with the kit, this is very important.!!!! These are Fanatec requirements... And the Chinese took care to add it to the kit... Because if you don’t install it, the steering wheel’s internal part will not be in tight contact with the QR2 that is installed in the base.. When you install the plastic ring.... Please note that the head of the bolt should not be higher than the plastic.... Use the bolts that come with the qr2.
I also got one for 42€ AliExpress. It is the same as the original. Only it was delivered faster than from Fanatec. And I'm from Germany. How is that possible !? 😂
I purchased 2 of these. Couldn’t get either to work with my Esports Formula 1 v2. Both worked perfectly with my Clubsport Formula 1 V 2.0 and my podium hub.
QR2 is absolutely the best, the slop in others and slow swap is easily worth the extra for the great engineering and quality. The AliExpress ones are just as good, I have about 4 of each.
From what I understand, some of these qr2's are legit because they come from the same factories that fanatec get theirs from. Some factories come online after hours to make them and sell them at a cheaper price to make a quick personal buck
I got the round one for my mclaren wheel rim I have the fanatec one in my formula v.25 and honestly there is no difference between the two they both fit and lock up the same both feel as strong as the other and the one I got from AliExpress was half the price the fanatec one was
The Chinese version is based on the Fanatec QR2, but the Fanatec QR2 is a copy of Krontec. So turnabout is fair play. You can fix the "stickiness" on the wheelbase side by using teflon (PTFE) spray. Spray onto a cloth and then wipe it over the OUTSIDE of the wheelbase side stem and the vertical bars of the wheelside release. This is exactly what Fanatec do with the pro system. You will need to apply the teflon spray at least once a year to both the Fanatec and OEM releases.
I bought the same QR2 and I think the built and quality is better than the Fanatec. I’ve had it for a year and no issues whatsoever. I have the one that overrides the torque so I could use any wheel, did not need a hub and saved me money.
Really looking forward to that building out a fanatec system video. Because i have QR1 and a couple wheels i am in limbo... if i buy anything new i have to buy wheelside QR2 and QR2 pro for my older wheels also
If you buy the base side and 2 of these knock offs as opposed to the qr2 bundle from fanatec its about a £40 saving inc postage. I think i would stick to fanatec if putting on a fanatec wheel.
DUDE! my qr2 lite has been cracking around every single screw. its really annoying and was not about to pay 150$ for another shitty built product. THANK YOU FOR THIS
I think it would probably make sense to go look for third party / aftermarket parts, because with the situation Fanatec is in, they might not be around in the future, plus their customer service / support is terrible at best…
You can easily see the difference, the official Fanatec QR2 is round, and the copy is a squircle. (This post is related to this video, and people saying in the comments it looks the same...)
Found 3 of these for 50 each, fanatec is charging $200 for the pro and $100 for the regular in the US. if for $150 I can get 3 QR's that look like pros and perform like the regular I'll be more than satisfied!
@@dodgers89 yeah, I gotta agree with this take. Yes, Fanatec charges more. Because materials are only part of the cost. Dev costs money too. It’s expensive, yes. But it’s also (effectively) a luxury good.
@@dodgers89Buddy it’s a quick release not a rocketship the Fanatec QR2 is just copying already available quick release system on the market and adding some pins at the end for the connection there’s nothing complicated about it especially not for a company that have a full team of engineers and millions in revenue. It shouldn’t have taken them more than a few months to develop it maybe if I’m very kind a year…
@@Xotiw how to show you have absolutely no clue of engineering, product development and mass manufacturing. The measurements need to be dead on or else you have a QR1 V2 with a lot of play. You need to balance the tolerances with the execution time on each machine as well as the resulting costs, and so on. Especially with different matierals that are supposed to provide very similar experiences this task is much more difficult. The additional times for testing and finding solutions for issues and then getting this draft to be mass manufacturable is a pain in the ass.
I’m new to the Hobby and im here to tell you that they all are charging large amounts of money for things that dont cost that much. But the sim cartel of companies will never be fair so non has to be if that makes sense
Yeah the issue for me is: Official QR2 100€, the AliExpress one is 75€-80€ depending on the color, and who knows if I have to pay customs or anything like that. So I'm not really saving all that much.
hello! i bought a q2 from aliexpress with its device usb, after that i noticed differences in the force feedback. is this normal? o is an issue? Thanks
So where is the 2nd golden qr2? I thought the pro always has a golden finish? And how do you check if the Aliexpress is equal to the pro and not a normal qr2 with golden anodized finish? Copying the pro does not make sense, adding a golden finish (or any other shiny colour finish) does, I definitely would not use the aliexpress one in a real car. Tempted to buy a qr2 with blue finish for my rig from aliexpress though. Fanatec fell asleep it seems.
If i already had the base side, i'd def buy one of these. But i don't, so i'm just gonna struggle along with a clunky QR1 that keeps slipping out of the base
For sale is a complete set of QR2, in fact it is very difficult to distinguish it from the original one, I have a round lock... I took a completely black one... And I received it 7 days later in the city post office..
I bought the complete set for £80 (base side and wheel side). I wouldn't be surprised if the clone copies are just spares from the same factory in China rebranded as Simube etc. Works perfectly for me at 1/3 the price.
No way am I gonna upgrade my 6 rims to qr2 . I’m done wasting my money . I’m happy the way things are on my DD base . Plus , people need to be aware , your guarantees are null and void if you upgrade none fanatec parts
Fanatec is not the original design of QR2. It is the Krontec QR-03. People are so supperficial these days, always pointing to China, what a shame. Just because is from Germany everybody assumes is the original one. Fanatec is going down with bo return, no respect for customers. Fanatec Fullforce not available in any system yet, so much going on but people just don't wanna see it.
F1 2024 released with no support to Fanatec Full Force... I had the GT DD Pro, lots of clipping and switched to Logitech Pro Wheel and pedals. Thousand miles better.
I purchased a Leoxz QR2, and its quality is very poor. It shakes under high torque conditions. I have already returned it to them and do not intend to buy products from this brand again.
@@jackyao9178 I've got two QR2 Core's from Leoxz, and the quality is exceptional. Equal to the Fanatec QR2's that I have on my other wheels. My friends also have Leoxz QR2's to use with DD2's and a Clubsport DD, and have had no reported issues. You had bad luck with that one unfortunately.
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To be fair, Fanate'cs QR is also Chinese.
This video couldn’t have come at a better time. I just upgraded to the qr2 and since Fanatec is out of stock of their qr2, I purchased this one as well. It’s cheaper than the normal qr2 and free shipping to the US. Still baffles me how Fanatec doesn’t offer free shipping in 2024 especially with the price you’re forking over for their products.
Good way to void your warranty if something breaks because of it
@@EM_Kartingyeah because they would know what QR you used? You could just switch back to your original QR for the RMA process if something goes wrong.
@@Xotiw You would want to send the product back if something from Fanatec gets broken. It's harder than you think.
@@EM_Karting good point but my parts are way outside of the warranty period. Regardless of warranty, DYOR and you’ll be surprised to find a ton of awesome and reliable 3rd party supporting mods i.e. pedal dampers, shifter mods, magnetic paddles etc
@rich2579 yeah that's true, I just don't like to risk it regardless, because it being outside the warranty means I lose out either way.
In the US this is available on Amazon under prime so no issues with return if you don’t like it.
You gotta link? Please and thanks
I think i found it
The Fanatec QR2 is a chinese knockoff of the Krontec QR3 in the first place. So it really shouldn't be a surprise that the aliexpress feel and function nearly the same as the actual fanatec ones.
Well there you go. I am surprised this hasn't been mentioned before. Well done. The Krontec QR3 is more expensive but that is beside the point when you consider how long Fanatec said they were "Developing" it.
German knock off you mean
@@untrainedprofessionals2374 Sometimes i really wonder, do they really take the time off to redesign the existing QR available on the market or they just rebrand a QR that is currently selling and make it theirs.
QR2 pro is FIA homologated. Tf are you talking about chineese knockoffs? :D
@@Lithu4nianbirdies
Just wanted to say thank you to all the comments in this video and @randomcallsign for making this video. Ended up buying this exact one for my CSL DD and I couldn't be happier with the initial purchase! Now to put it through its paces and see the long term durability. The package and all the parts look almost identical to the fanatec offical QR2. It feels like they are getting the parts from the same manufacturer and just changing up the release shape.
People always refer to these as "knock-offs", "copies", etc. The fact is, some of them are EXACTLY the same as Fanatec's, but without the "$170 markup because it says 'Fanatec'".
I have several $50 QR2's from Aliexpress, and I can't tell any difference at all in most of them... right down to the labeling and minor details on the box and the tool packet that comes with them. The only difference I've noticed after hours of driving is that my wallet is a lot happier.
Not to mention, most sellers on Aliexpress actualy respond to emails and are HAPPY to fix customer complaints from what I've seen :)
i have a fake. 10/10 would recommend.
I bought the black one at a discount for $40 with free shipping.. A little more than 7 months ago... It cannot be broken, I tell you that right away.. It can withstand 32nm with easeThe main thing is not to forget to install the round plastic that comes with the kit, this is very important.!!!! These are Fanatec requirements... And the Chinese took care to add it to the kit... Because if you don’t install it, the steering wheel’s internal part will not be in tight contact with the QR2 that is installed in the base.. When you install the plastic ring.... Please note that the head of the bolt should not be higher than the plastic.... Use the bolts that come with the qr2.
So if you’re getting a metal one for 50 bucks, that’s a hell of a lot cheaper than Fanatec. They charge 50 for the plastic one don’t they?
yes, around that price. The difference, is about 40 euro from the metal one.
the prices shown in the video were in British pounds, i just checked aliexpress, and in USD they are around $70 (vs. $100 from fanatec)
In canada its $75 for telinku one, and $200 for the real one 😂😂😂
I also got one for 42€ AliExpress. It is the same as the original. Only it was delivered faster than from Fanatec. And I'm from Germany. How is that possible !? 😂
I purchased 2 of these. Couldn’t get either to work with my Esports Formula 1 v2. Both worked perfectly with my Clubsport Formula 1 V 2.0 and my podium hub.
I got 2 at a time. They both are perfect. Only the early batches had a issue and they will replace it very quickly for you. Just get it.
i am currently using one from aliexpress and it works better than the actual fanatec one for half the price
QR2 is absolutely the best, the slop in others and slow swap is easily worth the extra for the great engineering and quality. The AliExpress ones are just as good, I have about 4 of each.
Plus the color options from AliExpress is important. Gotta match outfits, purses and mounts. Plus they have square and circular.
how long have you been using them for
Which base are you using them on?
From what I understand, some of these qr2's are legit because they come from the same factories that fanatec get theirs from. Some factories come online after hours to make them and sell them at a cheaper price to make a quick personal buck
I got the round one for my mclaren wheel rim I have the fanatec one in my formula v.25 and honestly there is no difference between the two they both fit and lock up the same both feel as strong as the other and the one I got from AliExpress was half the price the fanatec one was
The Chinese version is based on the Fanatec QR2, but the Fanatec QR2 is a copy of Krontec. So turnabout is fair play.
You can fix the "stickiness" on the wheelbase side by using teflon (PTFE) spray. Spray onto a cloth and then wipe it over the OUTSIDE of the wheelbase side stem and the vertical bars of the wheelside release. This is exactly what Fanatec do with the pro system. You will need to apply the teflon spray at least once a year to both the Fanatec and OEM releases.
Which PTFE do you recommend? Which brand/ make, can you send link to the product?
I bought the same QR2 and I think the built and quality is better than the Fanatec. I’ve had it for a year and no issues whatsoever. I have the one that overrides the torque so I could use any wheel, did not need a hub and saved me money.
Really looking forward to that building out a fanatec system video.
Because i have QR1 and a couple wheels i am in limbo... if i buy anything new i have to buy wheelside QR2 and QR2 pro for my older wheels also
If you buy the base side and 2 of these knock offs as opposed to the qr2 bundle from fanatec its about a £40 saving inc postage. I think i would stick to fanatec if putting on a fanatec wheel.
This square of the qr 2 is very beautiful
DUDE! my qr2 lite has been cracking around every single screw. its really annoying and was not about to pay 150$ for another shitty built product. THANK YOU FOR THIS
I think it would probably make sense to go look for third party / aftermarket parts, because with the situation Fanatec is in, they might not be around in the future, plus their customer service / support is terrible at best…
Lol fanatec ain’t going nowhere.. Bmw is still using their wheel in the real gt cars
@@Michael27RomeroDidn't they go bankrupt?
@@hamzerpanzer no u tool they got bought by cosair and are producing and selling items still on fanatec as we speak
You can easily see the difference, the official Fanatec QR2 is round, and the copy is a squircle. (This post is related to this video, and people saying in the comments it looks the same...)
There are variants that don't have the rounded square look.
srsly?
Probably a way to avoid legal trouble and be considered counterfeit
@@IK47-d2l Certified Genius One is round and one isn't..
They have same now.
Found 3 of these for 50 each, fanatec is charging $200 for the pro and $100 for the regular in the US.
if for $150 I can get 3 QR's that look like pros and perform like the regular I'll be more than satisfied!
Can u try to use this chinese qr2 with a third party wheels like a deep dish wheel for drifting (no buttons) etc to see how is the ffb
I've been curious about these. Might have to give one a shot.
I ordered this exact one off Amazon. $6 off coupon plus free shipping. $84. Be here in two days
Fanatec: >5 years to develop QR2
Chinese companies:
While Fanatec wants 200% return in each piece, tired of these fucking companies just abusing prices because they are a known brand.
@@FcoEnriquePerez Fanatec had to spend tons of money on developing it. Chinese guy had to buy QR2 and copy it. You really don't see the difference?
@@dodgers89 yeah, I gotta agree with this take. Yes, Fanatec charges more. Because materials are only part of the cost. Dev costs money too.
It’s expensive, yes. But it’s also (effectively) a luxury good.
@@dodgers89Buddy it’s a quick release not a rocketship the Fanatec QR2 is just copying already available quick release system on the market and adding some pins at the end for the connection there’s nothing complicated about it especially not for a company that have a full team of engineers and millions in revenue. It shouldn’t have taken them more than a few months to develop it maybe if I’m very kind a year…
@@Xotiw how to show you have absolutely no clue of engineering, product development and mass manufacturing. The measurements need to be dead on or else you have a QR1 V2 with a lot of play. You need to balance the tolerances with the execution time on each machine as well as the resulting costs, and so on. Especially with different matierals that are supposed to provide very similar experiences this task is much more difficult. The additional times for testing and finding solutions for issues and then getting this draft to be mass manufacturable is a pain in the ass.
Just bought it, and I have to say QR2 is much x 3 better than Qr shit 1
It confuses me, like if Fanatec product themselves aren’t made in China.
Is this homologated for use with my $500,000 BMW M4 GT3 race car in the SRO GT3 championship?
bruh…
Ricardo, you are the man! I see a dragon ball tshirt with the Kame kanji, I upvote 😻😻
First thing i noticed too, and I was born in the 80s. DBZ forever :)
what are the benifit of QR2? I have the original and have no isues with it...
Main reason I left Fanatec is because of their overly priced QR.
I’m new to the Hobby and im here to tell you that they all are charging large amounts of money for things that dont cost that much. But the sim cartel of companies will never be fair so non has to be if that makes sense
Fanatec - Made in China, Sold from the slowest warehouse in Germany.
Yeah the issue for me is: Official QR2 100€, the AliExpress one is 75€-80€ depending on the color, and who knows if I have to pay customs or anything like that. So I'm not really saving all that much.
Do you know if you can buy a clubspotrt dd+ baseside quick release? tks
hello! i bought a q2 from aliexpress with its device usb, after that i noticed differences in the force feedback. is this normal? o is an issue? Thanks
Currently you can probably get this quicker than the authentic one....
Mine just came in after a week. Paid ~$85 bux and installed it in 5mins, working great so far.
So where is the 2nd golden qr2? I thought the pro always has a golden finish? And how do you check if the Aliexpress is equal to the pro and not a normal qr2 with golden anodized finish? Copying the pro does not make sense, adding a golden finish (or any other shiny colour finish) does, I definitely would not use the aliexpress one in a real car. Tempted to buy a qr2 with blue finish for my rig from aliexpress though. Fanatec fell asleep it seems.
How come there's still so much clipping even though the wheelbase is 15nm?
Where is the Fanatec one made? Germany?
If i already had the base side, i'd def buy one of these.
But i don't, so i'm just gonna struggle along with a clunky QR1 that keeps slipping out of the base
For sale is a complete set of QR2, in fact it is very difficult to distinguish it from the original one, I have a round lock... I took a completely black one... And I received it 7 days later in the city post office..
I bought the complete set for £80 (base side and wheel side). I wouldn't be surprised if the clone copies are just spares from the same factory in China rebranded as Simube etc. Works perfectly for me at 1/3 the price.
You are comparing it to the $200 QR2 from Fanatec not the $100 one. So $120 Saving
Nah, the pro is Fia approved, this isn't.
Aliexpress for the win. QR2 base side plus wheel side for $100.
Another thing to consider, is it safe to order from Fanatec at the moment.
Yes
@Kev5565 I've ordered a couple of things in the past few weeks and imo it's currently better than ever.
Problem with AliExpress is they'll spam your email more than once a day with sales and there's no unsubscribe button.
Anyone got the AliExpress base side? How is it?
Does the 8nm still work with it or does it reduce to 5nm
@@kevinhunter452 8nm works
@@randomcallsignthanks I've seen some reviews on AliExpress saying it doesn't register so only get 5nm
Qr2 is anodized … is the knock off anodized or painted ? (Gold)
seems to be a thin anodization. thinner than the pro.
If u can buy this from china so cheap and the quality is great then why the hell can't fanatec sell it cheap too?
Because Fanatec actually paid yo develop it
anddd now more people know about it😭
Thumbnail game on point.
Could be better 😂
No way am I gonna upgrade my 6 rims to qr2 . I’m done wasting my money .
I’m happy the way things are on my DD base . Plus , people need to be aware , your guarantees are null and void if you upgrade none fanatec parts
Another nail in Fanatec’s coffin 😂
they deserve it
Aliexpress QR2's are GOATED!
Remains to be seen if Fanatec will have Black friday sales this year 😂 Legit QR2's should be cheaper then.
its not even an electronic connector, therefore why should you need the official one?
tolerances can destroy connectors.
@@randomcallsign Thats a great point. Could you do a followup vid comparing the tolerances on both?
whats wrong with the original connection ? why need to buy something extra ?
This is just asking for problems like bent pins etc
Did anyone here buy the base side QR2 from Ali?
cheap cast pot aluminum is weaker than good plastic
Normal qr2 is also cast aluminum, yet costing 40% more than this one
Fanatec and support 🤣👍
Maybe if fanatec wasn't so greedy and just included it like every other company......
Fanatec is not the original design of QR2. It is the Krontec QR-03. People are so supperficial these days, always pointing to China, what a shame. Just because is from Germany everybody assumes is the original one. Fanatec is going down with bo return, no respect for customers. Fanatec Fullforce not available in any system yet, so much going on but people just don't wanna see it.
F1 2024 released with no support to Fanatec Full Force... I had the GT DD Pro, lots of clipping and switched to Logitech Pro Wheel and pedals. Thousand miles better.
you do know they advertised it as being a copy right? obviously they didn't name them but I do remember them saying it being based on an IRL config
lots of FF clipping, you should turn down the gain in acc a little bit
Its to test the resilience of the qr
@@randomcallsign ah, i understand
FanaCOPY ahahahahah
Just one word, Leoxz.
I purchased a Leoxz QR2, and its quality is very poor. It shakes under high torque conditions. I have already returned it to them and do not intend to buy products from this brand again.
@@jackyao9178 I've got two QR2 Core's from Leoxz, and the quality is exceptional. Equal to the Fanatec QR2's that I have on my other wheels. My friends also have Leoxz QR2's to use with DD2's and a Clubsport DD, and have had no reported issues. You had bad luck with that one unfortunately.
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I'm going out of my way to buy anything other than Chinese/ CCP made products.
You're going to have a rough time simracing, hoo boy. Fanatec make their shit in China, too.
It doesn’t make sense to pay 70% of original price for a fake.
Fanatec hit men are on there way 100% 🤣
HOOO :)