John Deere 830 Industrial - First Start with Pony Motor
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Finally able to get my 1959 #johndeere 830-Industrial #tractor started using the pony motor. I needed to address a few issues, change the oil, and fix a few leaks, but both the #gasoline engine and the #diesel engines run very well. Still a few small adjustments that need to be made, but it is much better now than it has ever been.
1. First Time Seeing The Tractor: • John Deere 830 Industr...
2. I Bought an 830-Indistrial: • John Deere 830 Industr...
3. Attempting Field Repair: • John Deere 830 Industr...
4. Getting the 830-I Home: • John Deere 830 Industr...
5. First Start of Diesel Engine: • John Deere 830 Industr...
6. First Start of Pony Engine: • Pony Motor First Start...
The pony runs nice and clean......good job!
Yes, I think one main reason why it was smoking so badly before is because excess fuel was cooking into the cylinders... So the smoke was itburning extra rich, not necessarily oil getting into the cylinders. So I was really happy to see it run for a good 10 minutes and it never really smoked to bad.
It's coming along great as you continue to make repairs. You will get it all figured out and get it running perfectly.
I sure hope so!
Ole Tractor Sounds Excellent 👌
Thanks!
It's always so nice to get something fixed when you've been fighting gremlins. Huzzah!
There is still a lot left, but I'm glad I was able to get it and drive it. Motivation for sure.
Nothingnlike a pony motor start and you'll get the clutch straightened out. The old D-4, 6 and 8H had pony motors. the D7E and 6-C and 5 had glow plugs BUT the tranny and bevel gear case on the 7E held just shy of 55 GALLONS. Like maybe 2 or 3 gallons shy. And that old 2-banger of yours didn't even know it had the slack out of the gears, much less a load. Good to see that sweet girl and Pop out too! Blessed weekend!
It's crazy to hear about real heavy equipment. I sometimes think these tractors are big and beefy... But compared to a big ol cat dozer... This is almost like a toy! Thanks for sharing!
@@jonelsonster I started out pulling a sheepsfoot roller with a 2806 IH tractor. I ran a d drove everything I could. Now it's a mower. Life is interesting!
Beautiful country there!
Thanks! It's nice having some open fresh air.
Nice tractor, good to see it coming along so well. My wife and I also enjoyed your daughter appearing with her tractor "problem".
Ha ha ha! Yeah she almost had a roll over!
on 😊😊 diesel tractors U have 2 bleed the fuel system 1ST U must get all of the air out of the fuel system at the injector pump and at the injectors U only want diesel fuel no air bubbles or it will take a long time 2 bleed like the best way 2 start tractors like that is 2 take a chain and pull it w another tractor or put a flat belt and start it 😊😊OMG 5 5 2O24
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Anybody who owns a diesel knows the fuel system has to be bled if it's been opened up and i am POSITIVE he already knows that since he owns a number of them.
That 830 is such a beast, sounds awesome and I'm happy to hear it run too! I could smell your oil change haha. Yes the tractor has minor issues but they all do and with tinkering and time, you'll get it. Hope the pony cooperates and some adjustments bring it in line. The PS cylinder is a bit of a bear. If you pull it off, fix everything so you don't have to do it again haha
I was so concerned about getting the pony motor to crank the big engine, I wasn't really paying attention to the main throttle. I pulled it back, but never actually shut it off... Hence the monstrous cloud of exhaust once it finally turned through a compression stroke. And yes, the PS rebuild is something I'm not looking forward to... But it will be really nice to have it, so I'm going to do it.
Do you know if the PS pump and system can be damaged if I run it while it's not operational? I didn't want to burn it up or cause additional damage.
@@jonelsonster The system does need oil in it or you will cause damage to the pump. Otherwise I can't think of how it could get hurt. It's designed to work as manual steering if the power steering fails.
@@jonelsonster It is never good to run a hydraulic pump out of oil. The other person said it is designed to work as manual BUT you can still damage your pump (well he did say it can damage the pump after rereading his comment). It's like the PS on a vehicle. I blew a line on my VW Jetta Turbo Diesel one time a long way from home, took the PS belt off, and manual steered my way home. I had been in the "big city". Parts guy at store said their delivery guy was about to leave their parts depot, quitting time, low and behold they had the line in stock, and he brought it before leaving. They had several stores but a big supply depot that served all the locations. Not wanting to crawl around under my car in the parking lot, drove it home with the belt taken off the PS pump, and fixed it in my garage. That being said i know squat about how the 830 PS pump is driven but it would not be a good idea to run it with no lubrication. Is it a vane pump, gerotor, etc.? Separate reservoir for the pump or is it all one unit?
@@KStewart-th4sk It's a gear pump, shaft driven from the engine. The reservoir is the PS cylinder and associated piping/valving.
Hey Guys, I'm just glad that you have saved it from the junk buyer,and are fixing it up. Growing up back in the 60s we had a 830 on one of the Ranches my Dad managed. It was awesome, purty new,bright and shiny. I found out that the gas tank didn't hold much gas. I forgot to fill it once and it didn't have enough gas in it to start the main engine the next day. Way out in the middle of nowhere. Dad was kinda mad. Ha😢. Thanks for Sharing. 😊
Yeah, this seemed way too nice to go to the crusher
Anybody recycle scrapping any JD 80,820,830,is loosing money,they sell well above scrap still.
@@matthewkesler1175 Sad to see any going for scrap when someone will be needing parts someday.
Where’s the hydraulic filter in and drain plug for the hydraulics?
That is a sweet sound, music to the ears of a country fella.
The sound of a two cylinder Deere is iconic!
I had to make some clutch adjustments on my 820 as well and it wasn’t a very difficult procedure. There is also a grease zerk inside there as well so look for that when you have the covers off. I believe the grease zerk is under the bigger cover but I can’t remember now for sure. If you’re planning to replace your gauges I’d suggest getting them from Jerry Trcka at Evergreen restorations. His gauges are second to none in quality and accuracy, you might pay more but like I said second to none, they’re the only gauges I put on my tractors.
Very good suggestions. Thanks!
Can't thank you enough for posting your journey with this awesome tractor. I'll be getting an old 830 myself this summer once there's a settlement reached on a family real estate sale. The tractor's been sitting at least 30 years so I'm sure I'll be facing many of the same issues you have and then some. haha
I enjoy sharing my projects, so I'm happy when people like you find it enjoyable! Thanks for watching and commenting!
My only complaint is your daughter needs some "Green Power" to pull her wagon. I must say i was a bit shocked to see "red". LOL Pony motor and diesel sound great.
Don't worry. The grandparents have several pedal tractors for all the grandkids... Green ones, a red one, and even a little gray one.
Seeing that shed full of green tractors made me think of when they were new, well before they became toys. Many a farm wife likely had to forego a new washing machine or stove so they could afford that new tractor. But by eliminating the horses they could earn enough extra money to pay for new appliances, etc. in a few years! Win win!
We still farm with ours. They aren't just toys.
Beautiful 830I
Thanks!
thats a cool one just seen it now the engine makes me think of the lanz bulldog
Oh, this is much cooler than a lanz bulldog 😉
Excellent video Jonelstar :) also dad save this John Deere tractor and sounds in good condition too all running nicely 👍 ! Also don't know if have NAPA Auto parts store and if want stop leaks on rad plus more get bottle from called RISLONE it like Barrs Stop Leak but better RISLONE do on cold engine put rad then top with antifreeze up and let do work ! RISLONE works on gas or desiel motor it jello stuff but go to leaks fast like strong glue ! I found seals gaskets fast to really nice !
Hopefully the leak doesn't come back, but if it does then I'll have to look for the product you mentioned!
@@jonelsonster no problem and hope so too!
JD AR75603 NAPA 1147 WIX 51147 hydraulic filter on many is also engine oil filter on 80 820 830
JD AH1082R NAPA 1148 WIX 51148 engine filter for JD model M, H, 320 330 40 420 430
JD AR26350 NAPA 1242 WIX 51242 engine A B D G R (takes 2), 50 to 730, 3010 4020 from my notes
AR28271 = AR75603
We have many of the old JD tractors, other colours too, lol
Very good information here! Thanks for sharing!
Nice country sir!
It's nice being able to have some space!
Sounds great. Nice tractor. Where did you get your new water pump from? I need a new one for my 720. Thanks
I just bought my new pump from one of the parts supply places on line... Can't remember which one. But I'm sure they are all built in the same factory. I did save my old pump though. If I end up needing a new one in the future (because this cheap one starts leaking) then I'll get new seals and rebuild the OEM one.
@@jonelsonster okay thanks.
Yes always keep the old parts, just in case.
With The Gasoline they make now, Carburetors don't last long.
We run ethnol free fuel in our equipment and it solves the corrosion issues with ethnol fuel.
Dad has a Diesel Tractor that He uses all of the time now. I have not heard the 9 N run in a long time.
Beautiful sounding tractor! You are making great progress...keep up the good work and the videos. Thanks for taking us along on the journey.
Thanks for coming along with me!
I bet you need to put new valve seals on her if not rings.
I'm curious why you think that? The diesel engine seems to run very well, and now that I tuned the pony motor carb and it isn't flooding with gasoline, it seems to run fine too.
Dose it have a gas pedal
You know it! This is my first tractor with a foot throttle.
@@jonelsonster Does the foot throttle work?
@@chantalvernier9373 yup
Nice to hear that the pony motor eventually gets the big engine going. You're getting there slowly. She'll be a lovely tractor once she's done... nice work guys. Keep going steady. Good luck.
Thanks for the words of encouragement!
That sounds so good! It looks like you have a really nice tractor.
Thanks!
Thanks for showing that drain hole in the pony motor head. Have heard others say it is there but never been shown and I am not sure all pony motors have that drain hole or whether it was a later modification. I have a spare pony motor from a black dash tractor (720) in my shop, will certainly take a look see. Thanks again
I have a spare pony motor from an early 720, so it is a non serialized engine. And it's drain hole is the same as this one on my 830.
Since any engine has to lubricate its valve train there has to be drain(s) to let excess/seepage oil back to the crankcase.
The Diesel Holds up to 2 1/2 gallons of Oil
Yeah they take a lot of oil. This one takes about 3 1/2 gallons.
I'd say you're ready to start pulling a towed 9 wheel roller with it! Keep up the great content!
I never knew what's what they were called; 9 wheel rollers. What are they for? Just like a final compaction when finishing a road bed? What do they weigh?
@@jonelsonster Back in my Army asphalt platoon our veteran Platoon Sergeant told us all the tires create a kneading effect that seals and compacts. The towed rollers I've seen have hollow beds you can add weight to. Same with the self propelled 9 wheel rollers we had.
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Are you sure it’s the pony motor clutch and not just the governor?
The governor isn't the issue, because the engine runs fine. The issue is that the Bendix is constantly spinning, Even when the clutch is engaged... That's why I think it's the clutch. It's not uncommon for a clutch disk to stick to the flywheel after sitting for so long.
@@jonelsonster This comment made me think, there is also a mechanical overrunning clutch in the pony transmission, sometimes the parts get worn and cause issues as well. Just something to keep in mind.