I wore the Nighthawk on active military operations for years and years. It served me very well. I finally gave it to my son when I simply could not read the dials any longer (eyes start to go after 40!). I told my son that the only jewelry that most men wear is a watch, so wear a good one. He took it and had the crystal replaced as it had served a hard life. He still wears it to this day and he tells me he gets complimented on it daily. Kind regards,
I own both and as a pilot, the Knighthawk is my go-to watch for flying. Having the Citizen's dual time for the Zulu time checks is invaluable especially for flight plans and aviation weather briefings. The Flightmaster is a smart looking watch but the reflections from the domed hardlex and smaller face on the Seiko make it less useful for making instant time checks. For some reason, the Seiko impresses the ladies more than the Citizen, so it is the timepiece I take to aviation events and airshows.
For my 10th anniversary at my job in Aerospace (UTC) I allocated myself 2k for a watch. After two weeks of considering what watch is most appropriate I purchased a NightHawk and put the remaining funds back into savings.
TGV, I am not really into watches very much, but for some reason I hang on your every video lol. I do like how you are as enthusiastic about $50 watches as $5,000 watches. I especially enjoy your ramblings about non-watch things. Thanks for educating/entertaining me for hours.
Really appreciate the inner rotating bezel of the nighthawk. It also has a slight chamfer to it, that works well transitioning to the face of the watch. The Citizen appears less busy, and a little better thought out, even evident with the faces in the dark.
My Girlfriend got me the Seiko FSNA411 for my Birthday and got me the Nighthawk for me for our 4 year anniversary! I love them both! I love watches associated with special occasions; which are most of my collection. I can always remember that special time when I put them on my wrist!
Flighty all the way ! Off subject but my son has a James Bond game. Bond used his watch in the game and my son said " HEY DAD QUICK WRIST WATCH CHECK !" Sure enough Omega! he's only 8.
I have a Citizen Eco Drive that was left in a drawer for 8 years +/- and I figured it was toast. I left it outdoors in the direct sunlight for 2 days and when I grabbed it up that bad motor scooter was running perfect. I've never had any issues with a Citizen.
My Citizen Nighthawk has +0.1s/d measured over 3 months. I'ts the most accurate quartz that I have. it is a shame you don't have the stock bracelet that comes with the Citizen. it's solid end links are nice, the clasp is comfortable, its all around great.
@Nick Post. How is it that your Citizen Nighthawk Pilot's watch is only accurate to + 30 seconds per month ( or + 31 seconds per month in the case of a month that is 31 days long)? My Citizen Nighthawk BJ7019-62E watch is accurate to + 9--9.5 seconds per month.
@@nico-zh4eo . Incredibly, I misread Nick Post's comment about the timekeeping accuracy of his Citizen Nighthawk watch. But it is very unlikely, almost exceedingly unlikely, that any Nighthawk watch is accurate to +/- 0.1 seconds ( i.e., 1/10 of a second) per day because radio-control watches are inaccurate by a half second (0.5 seconds) just before receiving the automatic time calibration signal every 24 hours. If his Nighthawk watch was actually accurate to +/- 0.1 seconds per day, that would mean that it is only inaccurate by +/- 3 seconds per month ( or 3.1 seconds per month in a 31-day month). and there is no way any Citizen Nighthawk watch is that accurate in timekeeping accuracy! My Citizen BJ7019-62E Nighthawk watch is accurate to + 9-9.5 seconds per month, the last time I calculated its' timekeeping accuracy. I am currently checking its' timekeeping accuracy again just verify to my first calculation.
@@michaelbarlow6610 my Nighthawk is accurate to +0.1 seconds per day. I measured it from the 13 Mar to 30th Apr '21 and it gained 1.7 seconds in total. These eco-drive movements have a reputation for being extremely accurate.
@@MrSlurry . You must have an exceedingly unusual Nighthawk watch that has that kind of phenomenal timekeeping accuracy because non- radio-control, non-GPS quartz watches are accurate to +/- 15 seconds per month and the overwhelming majority of non-radio-controlled, non-GPS quartz watches cannot achieve an accuracy of +/-3 seconds per month (which would be a freakishly accurate +/-36 seconds per year)! I'm going to check my Citizen Nighthawk BJ7005-59E watch on March 28, 2022 to see what its' accuracy is since it was in perfect synchronization on February 28th with my radio-control Citizen CB0025-56E watch. By the way, "Eco-Drive" does not refer to a Citizen watch's movement. It refers to the solar cells below the watch dial that utilize light (sunlight or artificial light) to charge the watch's capacitor to power the watch movement and features.
Yeah, I have to agree with you all. I am a massive Seiko fan, and usually their lume would win, but in this case the Citizen for sure. I have a Ti Eco-Drive 300m Diver, and its lume is exactly that same blue hue, and where we would say Seiko wins due to the sheer volume and brightness, that has to go Citizen today!
Great thoughtful comparison! It’s the Citizen for me in readability alone. The Seiko for me personally is too busy, cluttered and fiddley. Having a modest variety of Seiko automatics as well as assorted quartz and hand wounds I must say my current lone Citizen Eco Drive is really growing on me. I’ll be adding a Nighthawk next.
Hi TGV! I am the proud owner of a Citizen Nighthawk, love this watch! As you said, the crystal is prone to scratches because it protrudes from the bezel. Keep the good work, your channel Sir, is top quality. Regards from Uruguay.
After not wearing a watch for almost 20 years, about a year ago my obsession was reborn with the purchase of two watches that I blame for that rebirth...one of them being the all black steel Nighthawk (BJ7019-62E). That was June 2016 and less than a year later I've added about a dozen more watches ranging from less expensive watches with odd designs to an elegant Seamaster AquaTerra, but my Nighthawk is my go-to daily watch. My friends are only half-joking when they mention staging an intervention. I know I'm late to the game on this video, but I just found your channel recently and am making my way through your back episodes. Thank you for not being the typical watch snob! I love that you appreciate quality and heritage at every price point. Doesn't hurt that your tastes are similar to mine. Keep up the great work!
I have both the Citizen Nighthawk Blue Angels(much cooler than the black/red dial) and the Flighty(black sna-411 and the white/blue sna-413 version). The Citizen is easier to read, has better lume, has the gmt hand, is solar powered eco-drive, and has that great bracelet with the wing cross section links. A great, cool watch, and by all stats, the better watch. If I had to make a choice of one watch to keep? I’d have to go with…. The Flighty! It’s comfortable wear, layout, cool slide rule bezel( although it’s impossible to read without a magnifying glass). When you look at it, the symmetry of the lumed round indices, the multiple complications, the alarm, the perfect color choice of the yellow second and minute hands, the hypnotic, soothing effect of the second hand reset, and the split polished bracelet links, and that beautiful domed crystal all contribute to that incredible X-factor that leaves the decision to your gut, rather than your brain! TGV, I completely understand your love affair with the Flighty. I’d never part with my Flighty, never, ever, I just won’t do it!
Had both, ended up flipping the SNA411 and keeping the Nighthawk. The bracelet on the NIghthawk is miles ahead of the Seiko. The Eco Drive is a huge plus. All dial makes it wear bigger. Angular case design is more interesting. Finally with my domed sapphire installed I just couldn't justify keeping both and the Citizen came out ahead in my watch box.
Corned_Lemon Yes it's the Yobokies. Very slight dome, blue AR and it still rides above the bezel, but being sapphire that's kind of preferred in my opinion. Haven't tested the WR but I rarely take my watches deeper than the bathtub while bathing my little ones so I'm probably not a good test subject.
Great fun! Love your reviews. I'm a big Seiko fan, but the Citizen takes this one for me. Those big sword hands and bold indices and lume take the legibility to a whole new level! But respect: I know you love the Flighty 👍
I would choose the Nighthawk any day! Being an Eco-Drive it has that plus thing which separates it from normal quartz watches. And changing the battery isn't so complicated and a stop at an authorized watch repair shop once in 15-20 years isn't so bothering as is changing the battery every 2 years.
I would have to disagree with your X-Factor marking. In fact, for the exact reasons you rated the Seiko higher, I would rate the Citizen higher. Because it is it's own thing instead of trying to be something that its not I would definitley give the edge to the Night Hawk. Great video as always, Tristano!
As a pilot I am buying the Flightmaster as my 100 subscriber reward. I did not choose the nighthawk because it doesn’t have a chronograph. We need a stop watch for timing in an emergency a rate one 180 degree turn to get us out of trouble. We also use a stopwatch for establishing field length on a precautionary landing and of course for basic land navigation. I am using a Casio G-Shock M5610, but I am going to see how the Flighty stands up. I will probably change the crystal for an anti glare sapphire. Thanks for doing this comparison.
i am proud owner of flightmaster snab67 for more then 10 years now, sna411 didnt make into the finals of deciding witch watch to buy, but nighthawk did and i can say that nighthawk is the iconic masterpiece. i do not regret choosing snab67 over nighthawk, but after a decade, nighthawk is still looking fresh and fantastic with its "hexad-ish" bracelet and it is probably the best and most original watch of that category, and it is not under 200 dolars, its price is double that
Call it a draw - one point deducted for bias! Ha! I do like the Flighty so I might have to deduct points from my own bias too. LOVE LOVE the SARW025! Can't wait for the review. Ciao, John
I have to be honest....the Flighty won based on "Brand History", yet you admittedly give it a substantially lower quality rating. That's like giving McDonald's the nod over a 5 star restaurant because they've served "Billions and Billiions". I want the better food, I want the better watch. Give me the Nighthawk (and a side order of fries).
Both are great watches but I just bought the Citizen Blue Angel Nighthawk on sale and boy it's a stunner! It's the only watch I have where people say wow what's that! I also just bought a sapphire crystal domed from yobokies and it's taken the Nighthawk to another level. Cheers mate...
I own both watches and the nighthawk is the only Citizen in my collection. IMO the Citizen is a better timepiece love how the slide rule functions and it's dial is so much easier to read especially when you hit middle age the eyes aren't the same. Thanks for the great review.
Tho I am not a quartz guy any more, I have to give the Citizen overwhelming high marks. It is, as you say, slightly better build quality and it is very readable. I also like the Eco factor. I own the Citizen WR100, an earlier flight watch from that company. They did not call it "Eco" at that time, but it was powered from the sun. Great video. Enjoyed it.
For me, the Eco Drive always sways me towards Citizen. I do not buy any other quartz movement watches as I just can't stand the hassle of getting the battery changed. Maybe in NYC it;s easy but "down here" in the south well we don't have that skill facility here. I have had just too many watches destroyed by "jewelers" if it lasts 20 years that is fine enough for me.
Moraine LAKE ...EXACTLY! Only solars or automatics for me from now on. I hate keeping batteries in stock and one never knows about water resistance after opening the watch.
here in prestige between the brands there is a 3 point difference but in the one between the citizen ny0040 and the skx(same brands) there is only 1 point difference. so the nighthawk wins afterall?
Have been wearing the Flightmaster for a few weeks now. The slide rule feature gets used constantly. I even obtained a Post Versalog slide rule circa 1951 just to sharpen my slide rule skills. Visually I am drawn to the Nighthawk as its dial is not so congested. Citizen gets another up with the Eco-Drive movement compared with the aging 7T62 movement w/399 battery. I now have 2 watches that use this cell. Citizen gets a down with no duel time and chrono feature. Seiko gets a down for clipping the tachymeter scale to the point it is not seriously useable. Bottom line is I enjoy USING the Flightmaster very much. It is stylishly very different than most watches out there and its functionality tips it over the top. I was not going to purchase the Flightmaster without putting it to work for me. It is quick and does not require cell phone or calculator. My kind of world where brain is still involved.
The crystal exposed is kind of a let down if you do use the watch for what it is. However, in that same respect all the information on the bezel on the Seiko will scratch away and be illegible. Not only that but the diameter of the viewable space is bigger will all the information enclosed and protected within the watch. All that the Citizen would ever need is a good polish on the stainless steel and maybe eventually a new crystal. When all the information rubs off or becomes scratched on the bezel, that functionality is lost or tainted.
When it comes to the accuracy of the Eco-Drive, I have to say that my Citizen Calibre 8700 Perpetual Calendar is the closest to my Bulova Precisionist that I've ever owned. But I do like the looks of the Seiko better. That new SARW025 with the pin stripe dial is absolutely gorgeous! Hurry the review please.
I am not a watch person and I have only one watch, Seiko kinetic premier. I was looking for my second watch and found this great channel. Thanks to your other videos, I got to know yesterday that there is a category named "chronograph" (wow, a whole new world). Seiko SNA411 is unbelievably lovely. I'll spend some time in this channel before I decide my next watch. Thank you so much for all the information. ♡
Very close call, to be sure. Seiko is my favorite brand, and I do like the Flightmaster, but the Nighthawk edges it out for me for a few reasons. First, I adore the GMT display (especially the plane hands). Second, I wanted to try an eco-drive (I love my Seiko recraft solar chronograph SSC667). Third, I like the internal rotating slide rule. Fourth would be the lug width. Fifth is the clarity of the lume display. And the sixth reason came down to price. I had been looking back to the Nighthawk and kicking myself for not getting one a few years ago. At the moment, now in 2020, the Nighthawk featured here is going for $500 or so. *But* I found the Blue Angels version -- which I actually prefer -- for $199, so I ordered one of those. I might have to get a Flightmaster in the future, though. Why settle for just one of these beauties?
@@Kpaojd I'm not sure you can anymore. I ordered mine online from a chain jewelry store (pretty sure it was Helzberg Diamonds) that had it marked down (essentially on clearance) last year.
Hello, TGV! Excellent duel as always! I really like those intro (w/ beautiful shots and good scores (Predator is AMAZING!)). I was wearing my Nighthawk today @ work and, as always, this is the one that gets lots of compliments, even from the non-watch fans. I reallt was hoping tht the duel would finish with a draw, but I accept the result. Both are very unique, a nice addition to any collection and for this price range, almost unbeatable. P.S.: In terms of quality the Citizen's bracelet is superb. You didn't see it in person (because this came in a strap), but it is very well built and the clasp, finishing and fit are so good. Cheers from Rio, Brazil, my friend.
Great comparison and rteview ! If it wasnt for the brand, Citizen seems to be a better as a watch. I am going for it. Thanks for helping me make the choice.
I just jumped on the Flighty on a Massdrop. Just over $200 I think it will be a nice addition to my collection. My buddy got the very rare bule/white version, and if that ever comes back, I'll get one of those too. Not at the aftermarket prices, but at a reasonable $200-$300.
Thanks for the comparison. I have been eyeing the "Flighty" for some time due to my love of the navitimer...but I think the Nighthawk is wining my $$$. Keep it up!
I was so looking forward to this video to shed some light on my dilemma, and after watching it I'm even more confused now haha. They are so close! Thanks again TGV for a great video!
This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me. I missed out the first part of the quote for political correctness. Great video and intro more of that please TGV for those of us growing up in the 80's.
Long time watcher. First time commenter. TGV - love your content, you're developing my interest in horology with the videos you put out. Great stuff. Dan. P.s. That flighty is gorgeous, and what value..
I have the Citizen Nighthawk with the steel bracelet. But mine is the Japanese version and has an engraved back instead of the lasered back. I love the juxtaposition of the old school slide rule and the modern solar powered drive, and the clever 2nd time zone mechanism.... For around $200, it's a great unique watch.
@@imaclown85 Maybe I'm mistaken on the name of the version (it's been 5 years since I looked into it lol), but one vesrion has a mirrored lasered back and the other version has a matte engraved back. The lume on the number marks is different as well. The mirrored version has the entire marking with lume, whereas with the engraved version just the tips of the markers have lume.. 5 years after this comment, I'm still wearing it everyday.
I would give the Nighthawk the slight edge. I like the uniqueness of the looks. Plus the fit and finish of the Nighthawk seems better. I love my Seikos, but in this case, I'd take the Citizen.
I got the flightmaster stopping the Nighthawk in the 4th round timeless classy great fundamentals. Champ is undefeated unless you bring floyd navitimer out of retirement but ofcourse the money is different
FANTASTIC duel. As a student pilot, Ive been looking forward to this duel for absolute donkeys !! ;) I was hoping for a Citizen win but hey, as you said, its very subjective. There's just something very cool about the Nighthawk that i feel the 'flighty' is missing. And that Seiko unboxing, wow. I think 'gorgeous' is the adjective we can all agree on. Another excellent video, great job Tristano.
I still love how my Nighthawk looks. Busy looking dial but harmoniously placed. Just placed an olive green Nato on it and it looks damn amazing. It doesn't even look big to wear for a 42 case.
@graz ryan. I couldn't have said it any better myself summing up the look of the Citizen Nighthawk Pilot's watch dial--" Busy looking dial but harmoniously placed"! From one Citizen Nighthawk Pilot's watch lover to another-- very well stated!
I do think the Nighthawk is more unique, so I would give it 10 in the X-Factor. I saw one for $120.00 and I'm thinking about getting it. The Seiko feels to Navitimer, which some people will like, some won't, since it's not the Navi itself. I don't know, just my thoughts. Both great watches, obviously.
I bought a Citizen Blue Angles last week, and after 30 minutes decided to return it. For me the watch has too busy a dial, and reading the small font a nightmare. It did look good and is a popular watch, and this is much more about me. You view these videos, and the watch face is much bigger than in real life, and when you get the real thing it is another story. Moral, go to a retail store first and see it live. However, I am now planning to bite the bullet and spend more for something like the Fortis Classic Cosmonaut Chronograph Ceramic or maybe the B-42. Either has a much cleaner dial, and is well respected, but of course completely different price points.
Right, so, I know TGV is a Seiko fanatic, so let me do a little digging. Movement: B877 has the same rated accuracy at the 7T* series... and is plenty reliable, they've been being made almost as long to boot (mid 90's). Brand: I'll conceed that Seiko is the more "prestigious" (though I chuckle at that being used for either brand) brand, though I'd say that Citizen is more true to it's roots than the modern Seiko, which is doing the Toyota thing and driving itself out out of the price bracket of most of its audience... otherwise great review and, if I had to give it a score, I'd say both tied up, they're both excellent pieces for different parts of the aviation community. FWIW I know military pilots that wear both
My first watch was a citizen and I took it to Afghanistan with me (2008). Mine was one of the few watches to make it through the whole year deployment. The sand and dryness is the devil on a watch but my Citizen never missed a beat.
Hi TGV, I do enjoy your videos and these got me into appreciating watches and in starting a collection since last year. I usually save up and buy a used watch in mint condition. The first one I bought for my dad's birthday was this Seiko flightmaster after watching your review of it. It is a great watch with so many features. The only thing I was not able to do was to set the alarm even after going through the manual. Other watches I now have is a Orient King diver from the 70s, a Seiko 5 Sports automatic, a Seiko V657 OB38 R2 for which there is little info on the net,, a Citizen 23 Jewel Automatic, an unusual swiss watch made by Brizo, a 20 year old swatch chrono, a mint Tissot PRS200 I grabbed by chance on ebay for cheap, a Casio edifice and my F-91W from primary school (still working). Thank you for your detailed reviews and tips.
Great video. I watched it multiple times. :) I have both watches. They both look awesome, but I prefer the Nighthawk a bit better. This Nighthawk would be even better if it was also atomic (kept the same dial). Citizen already has the technology. This Flightmaster would be even better if it was solar (kept the same dial). Seiko has solar chronographs. Both watches were updated (Citizen has newer atomic version, and Seiko has newer solar version), but the look has been changed (which, in my opinion, is the best thing about these two watches). I guess the newer/updated version of the watches are better (more practical), but the charm was lost a bit (these two models look the best). It would be good to have the newer technology, but keep the same look (because both watches look great already).
Good job, love your channel, reviewing different price bracket of watches, because not just the expensive brands make good watches, and compare watches at the same level really good👍👌
I feel like a handy guy could shave half a millimeter off the inside of those lugs to make it 22mm. Might have to make sure there is enough depth still left for the spring bars but if you love the watch it'd be a fun little project.
I'm super late to the party as i just perchased the Nighthawk! 1 point is just about negligible. I would call it a draw. I guess if you really need a winner, a point is a point ;)
Two features of the flighty I cannot deny as a pilot. 1. E6B can be used whilst in flight easier. 2. Having proper Zulu time with minutes and hour makes it functional for filing flight plans and such which are referenced to this. I do like the eco drive movement, I’d prefer to change batteries to have those two features noted. Perhaps the Skyhawk is a more even comparison.
The Nighthawk is NOT a pilots watch as far as I can tell. Many modern pilots do not wear a watch at all, others wear something digital - forgetting which, for a watch to be a pilots watch, traditionally, post the old flieger watches, do they not have to have both an alarm and a chronograph? The Nighthawk looks a fine watch in terms of build quality, it has character in terms of design and I like the technology, but isn't it a travel watch? Something for a business man, or commercial traveller who needs to keep track of multiple time zones? The Seiko has the alarm which also covers a second time zone, but crucially it has the chronograph and that is a must to be regarded as a modern pilots watch...as far as I understood it? Maybe I am missing something?
@The Urban Gentry - In the opening shot did you intend to have set up a Chess 960 position with each color's Queen's knight and bishop set up correctly but the King's knight and bishop swapped? It's totally legal in Chess 960 with the symmetry between colors so I'm not complaining, just curious.
Great review. I find it tough to pick between those two: the Nighthawk is super cool looking but that mineral crystal does put me off a bit. The Flightmaster is more of a pure tool watch so wins for me just because it's more what I need day to day. Both lovely watches though. I think the international reference for the Seiko at the end is SPB041, which might be helpful for anyone who wants to get hold of one.
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I wore the Nighthawk on active military operations for years and years. It served me very well. I finally gave it to my son when I simply could not read the dials any longer (eyes start to go after 40!). I told my son that the only jewelry that most men wear is a watch, so wear a good one. He took it and had the crystal replaced as it had served a hard life. He still wears it to this day and he tells me he gets complimented on it daily. Kind regards,
I own both and as a pilot, the Knighthawk is my go-to watch for flying. Having the Citizen's dual time for the Zulu time checks is invaluable especially for flight plans and aviation weather briefings. The Flightmaster is a smart looking watch but the reflections from the domed hardlex and smaller face on the Seiko make it less useful for making instant time checks. For some reason, the Seiko impresses the ladies more than the Citizen, so it is the timepiece I take to aviation events and airshows.
For my 10th anniversary at my job in Aerospace (UTC) I allocated myself 2k for a watch. After two weeks of considering what watch is most appropriate I purchased a NightHawk and put the remaining funds back into savings.
TGV,
I am not really into watches very much, but for some reason I hang on your every video lol. I do like how you are as enthusiastic about $50 watches as $5,000 watches. I especially enjoy your ramblings about non-watch things. Thanks for educating/entertaining me for hours.
Ian Butler
Hugo is a great addition witch I think would give him some kind of RUclips inovation price.
And the intros is soon James Bond movie level.
This video made me buy a nighthawk 3 years ago. Still use it daily, one of the best watches I've ever had.
Still using it a year later?
Just got one
I own the Nighthawk on a bracelet and I can tell it is very well made. Way better than my Sumo's bracelet. Great show as usual. Cheers, mister!
3 points deduction for Seiko because you favor them :)
Really appreciate the inner rotating bezel of the nighthawk. It also has a slight chamfer to it, that works well transitioning to the face of the watch. The Citizen appears less busy, and a little better thought out, even evident with the faces in the dark.
My Girlfriend got me the Seiko FSNA411 for my Birthday and got me the Nighthawk for me for our 4 year anniversary! I love them both! I love watches associated with special occasions; which are most of my collection. I can always remember that special time when I put them on my wrist!
Johnnyjohnjon .P you should marry that woman
Flighty all the way ! Off subject but my son has a James Bond game. Bond used his watch in the game and my son said " HEY DAD QUICK WRIST WATCH CHECK !" Sure enough Omega! he's only 8.
LOL, best comment of the day and that just made mine!
Thank you SN, priceless.
Best regards,
TGV
I have a Citizen Eco Drive that was left in a drawer for 8 years +/- and I figured it was toast. I left it outdoors in the direct sunlight for 2 days and when I grabbed it up that bad motor scooter was running perfect. I've never had any issues with a Citizen.
Two years later and the Citizen is still holding at $200 but I'm seeing the Seiko running over $300 in many places.
I have the Citizen from 10 years, perfect as the first day and still so actual. The Seiko is so nice too.
My Citizen Nighthawk has +0.1s/d measured over 3 months. I'ts the most accurate quartz that I have.
it is a shame you don't have the stock bracelet that comes with the Citizen. it's solid end links are nice, the clasp is comfortable, its all around great.
@Nick Post. How is it that your Citizen Nighthawk Pilot's watch is only accurate to + 30 seconds per month ( or + 31 seconds per month in the case of a month that is 31 days long)? My Citizen Nighthawk BJ7019-62E watch is accurate to + 9--9.5 seconds per month.
@@michaelbarlow6610 30s/month would mean 1s/d.
He said 0.1s/d ...
@@nico-zh4eo . Incredibly, I misread Nick Post's comment about the timekeeping accuracy of his Citizen Nighthawk watch. But it is very unlikely, almost exceedingly unlikely, that any Nighthawk watch is accurate to +/- 0.1 seconds ( i.e., 1/10 of a second) per day because radio-control watches are inaccurate by a half second (0.5 seconds) just before receiving the automatic time calibration signal every 24 hours. If his Nighthawk watch was actually accurate to +/- 0.1 seconds per day, that would mean that it is only inaccurate by +/- 3 seconds per month ( or 3.1 seconds per month in a 31-day month). and there is no way any Citizen Nighthawk watch is that accurate in timekeeping accuracy! My Citizen BJ7019-62E Nighthawk watch is accurate to + 9-9.5 seconds per month, the last time I calculated its' timekeeping accuracy. I am currently checking its' timekeeping accuracy again just verify to my first calculation.
@@michaelbarlow6610 my Nighthawk is accurate to +0.1 seconds per day. I measured it from the 13 Mar to 30th Apr '21 and it gained 1.7 seconds in total. These eco-drive movements have a reputation for being extremely accurate.
@@MrSlurry . You must have an exceedingly unusual Nighthawk watch that has that kind of phenomenal timekeeping accuracy because non- radio-control, non-GPS quartz watches are accurate to +/- 15 seconds per month and the overwhelming majority of non-radio-controlled, non-GPS quartz watches cannot achieve an accuracy of +/-3 seconds per month (which would be a freakishly accurate +/-36 seconds per year)! I'm going to check my Citizen Nighthawk BJ7005-59E watch on March 28, 2022 to see what its' accuracy is since it was in perfect synchronization on February 28th with my radio-control Citizen CB0025-56E watch. By the way, "Eco-Drive" does not refer to a Citizen watch's movement. It refers to the solar cells below the watch dial that utilize light (sunlight or artificial light) to charge the watch's capacitor to power the watch movement and features.
No idea how you can look at the lume of each and say the Seiko is superior. The Citizen is so easy to read, compared to the Seiko.
That's because he simply likes Seiko better. I figured that out a while ago.
He did say citizen's lume brighter
Yeah, I have to agree with you all. I am a massive Seiko fan, and usually their lume would win, but in this case the Citizen for sure. I have a Ti Eco-Drive 300m Diver, and its lume is exactly that same blue hue, and where we would say Seiko wins due to the sheer volume and brightness, that has to go Citizen today!
What…. Citizen is clear winner on zoom…..bias?
Lume!😉
I got myself Citizen Nighthawk before getting my first flying job. This watch spent with me over 5000 hrs in the air.
Great thoughtful comparison! It’s the Citizen for me in readability alone. The Seiko for me personally is too busy, cluttered and fiddley. Having a modest variety of Seiko automatics as well as assorted quartz and hand wounds I must say my current lone Citizen Eco Drive is really growing on me. I’ll be adding a Nighthawk next.
Horology is based on movement, Seiko wins
Hi TGV! I am the proud owner of a Citizen Nighthawk, love this watch! As you said, the crystal is prone to scratches because it protrudes from the bezel.
Keep the good work, your channel Sir, is top quality. Regards from Uruguay.
I started this video liking the Seiko and now I want a Citizen :D
Another fabulous video! Clash of the busy dialed titans. Best regards, A.
You're so likable. i love this channel.
Thank you Matt, too kind.
Best regards,
TGV
Hi TGV,
I think because of you the Flighty's prices have increased in the U.K. damn you! Another great show. keep up the good work
cheers
Bigg eMs
After not wearing a watch for almost 20 years, about a year ago my obsession was reborn with the purchase of two watches that I blame for that rebirth...one of them being the all black steel Nighthawk (BJ7019-62E). That was June 2016 and less than a year later I've added about a dozen more watches ranging from less expensive watches with odd designs to an elegant Seamaster AquaTerra, but my Nighthawk is my go-to daily watch. My friends are only half-joking when they mention staging an intervention.
I know I'm late to the game on this video, but I just found your channel recently and am making my way through your back episodes. Thank you for not being the typical watch snob! I love that you appreciate quality and heritage at every price point. Doesn't hurt that your tastes are similar to mine. Keep up the great work!
I have both the Citizen Nighthawk Blue Angels(much cooler than the black/red dial) and the Flighty(black sna-411 and the white/blue sna-413 version). The Citizen is easier to read, has better lume, has the gmt hand, is solar powered eco-drive, and has that great bracelet with the wing cross section links. A great, cool watch, and by all stats, the better watch. If I had to make a choice of one watch to keep? I’d have to go with…. The Flighty! It’s comfortable wear, layout, cool slide rule bezel( although it’s impossible to read without a magnifying glass). When you look at it, the symmetry of the lumed round indices, the multiple complications, the alarm, the perfect color choice of the yellow second and minute hands, the hypnotic, soothing effect of the second hand reset, and the split polished bracelet links, and that beautiful domed crystal all contribute to that incredible X-factor that leaves the decision to your gut, rather than your brain! TGV, I completely understand your love affair with the Flighty. I’d never part with my Flighty, never, ever, I just won’t do it!
Had both, ended up flipping the SNA411 and keeping the Nighthawk. The bracelet on the NIghthawk is miles ahead of the Seiko. The Eco Drive is a huge plus. All dial makes it wear bigger. Angular case design is more interesting. Finally with my domed sapphire installed I just couldn't justify keeping both and the Citizen came out ahead in my watch box.
ParsedOut did you get the yobokies sapphire? also have you tested the water resistance of it after installation?
Corned_Lemon Yes it's the Yobokies. Very slight dome, blue AR and it still rides above the bezel, but being sapphire that's kind of preferred in my opinion. Haven't tested the WR but I rarely take my watches deeper than the bathtub while bathing my little ones so I'm probably not a good test subject.
@@parsedout2576 Did you install the Crystal yourself?
@@412JFury I did, wasnt hard.
This is my favorite watch channel. Informative with a wide scale of priced watches. Keep up the great work.
Great fun! Love your reviews. I'm a big Seiko fan, but the Citizen takes this one for me. Those big sword hands and bold indices and lume take the legibility to a whole new level! But respect: I know you love the Flighty 👍
I would choose the Nighthawk any day! Being an Eco-Drive it has that plus thing which separates it from normal quartz watches. And changing the battery isn't so complicated and a stop at an authorized watch repair shop once in 15-20 years isn't so bothering as is changing the battery every 2 years.
I would have to disagree with your X-Factor marking. In fact, for the exact reasons you rated the Seiko higher, I would rate the Citizen higher. Because it is it's own thing instead of trying to be something that its not I would definitley give the edge to the Night Hawk.
Great video as always, Tristano!
Thank you sir :D
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TGV
As a pilot I am buying the Flightmaster as my 100 subscriber reward. I did not choose the nighthawk because it doesn’t have a chronograph. We need a stop watch for timing in an emergency a rate one 180 degree turn to get us out of trouble. We also use a stopwatch for establishing field length on a precautionary landing and of course for basic land navigation. I am using a Casio G-Shock M5610, but I am going to see how the Flighty stands up. I will probably change the crystal for an anti glare sapphire. Thanks for doing this comparison.
i am proud owner of flightmaster snab67 for more then 10 years now, sna411 didnt make into the finals of deciding witch watch to buy, but nighthawk did and i can say that nighthawk is the iconic masterpiece. i do not regret choosing snab67 over nighthawk, but after a decade, nighthawk is still looking fresh and fantastic with its "hexad-ish" bracelet and it is probably the best and most original watch of that category, and it is not under 200 dolars, its price is double that
Just got my nighthawk last week first model for $211 10/26/22
Call it a draw - one point deducted for bias! Ha! I do like the Flighty so I might have to deduct points from my own bias too. LOVE LOVE the SARW025! Can't wait for the review. Ciao, John
John Price -2 for bias. Citizen wins. 😂
John, I did like till I saw the price. No doubt to many it's worth it. What I did like about the SAR, was the herring bone like pattern on the dial.
I have to be honest....the Flighty won based on "Brand History", yet you admittedly give it a substantially lower quality rating. That's like giving McDonald's the nod over a 5 star restaurant because they've served "Billions and Billiions". I want the better food, I want the better watch. Give me the Nighthawk (and a side order of fries).
I’m with you.
Derek Marcellus varey good choos
I think the scores was correct. I picked the flight master, because it just have that more navitimer feel. But it is close
Who the fook are you?
It's more about quality control not the actual quality/performance of the watch
Both are great watches but I just bought the Citizen Blue Angel Nighthawk on sale and boy it's a stunner! It's the only watch I have where people say wow what's that! I also just bought a sapphire crystal domed from yobokies and it's taken the Nighthawk to another level. Cheers mate...
you matched your shirt to your watch? I BOUGHT a watch to match a NATO!
WOW, now that is a serious watch enthusiast! love it!!!
Nice one Michael,
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TGV
I own both watches and the nighthawk is the only Citizen in my collection.
IMO the Citizen is a better timepiece love how the slide rule functions and it's dial is so much easier to read especially when you hit middle age the eyes aren't the same. Thanks for the great review.
Another great video TGV. Very fun! And cool to see the unboxing on my return from surgery. I can't wait for the full review. Thanks. You are THE man!
Thank you Arthur, rest up and hang in there my friend.
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TGV
Tho I am not a quartz guy any more, I have to give the Citizen overwhelming high marks. It is, as you say, slightly better build quality and it is very readable. I also like the Eco factor. I own the Citizen WR100, an earlier flight watch from that company. They did not call it "Eco" at that time, but it was powered from the sun. Great video. Enjoyed it.
Thank you Harold, always great to hear from you.
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TGV
Cant go wrong with either watch . I own the Nighthawk, but, if I didn't, then I'd get a Flighty
For me, the Eco Drive always sways me towards Citizen. I do not buy any other quartz movement watches as I just can't stand the hassle of getting the battery changed. Maybe in NYC it;s easy but "down here" in the south well we don't have that skill facility here. I have had just too many watches destroyed by "jewelers" if it lasts 20 years that is fine enough for me.
Moraine LAKE ...EXACTLY! Only solars or automatics for me from now on. I hate keeping batteries in stock and one never knows about water resistance after opening the watch.
here in prestige between the brands there is a 3 point difference but in the one between the citizen ny0040 and the skx(same brands) there is only 1 point difference. so the nighthawk wins afterall?
Aaaahhhhhh An Urban Gentry Video. Time to make some coffee and relax.
Thank you Thomas, enjoy :D
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TGV
as much as im a fan of citizen, the flightmaster to me has a much more of an aviation related utility, look and feel, and has a more traditional look.
I have a Flighty SNA414. To me, the Citizen Nighthawk won this one on Performance, Durability, and X factor.
Seiko just looks amazing, in planing to buy it tonight
recently bought the sna411, no complaints, it's awesome.
Have been wearing the Flightmaster for a few weeks now. The slide rule feature gets used constantly. I even obtained a Post Versalog slide rule circa 1951 just to sharpen my slide rule skills.
Visually I am drawn to the Nighthawk as its dial is not so congested. Citizen gets another up with the Eco-Drive movement compared with the aging 7T62 movement w/399 battery. I now have 2 watches that use this cell. Citizen gets a down with no duel time and chrono feature. Seiko gets a down for clipping the tachymeter scale to the point it is not seriously useable.
Bottom line is I enjoy USING the Flightmaster very much. It is stylishly very different than most watches out there and its functionality tips it over the top.
I was not going to purchase the Flightmaster without putting it to work for me. It is quick and does not require cell phone or calculator.
My kind of world where brain is still involved.
This vid made me sure that i want "Flighty".
I like red and black Navihawk but Flightmaster won this round for me.
Thanks.
The crystal exposed is kind of a let down if you do use the watch for what it is. However, in that same respect all the information on the bezel on the Seiko will scratch away and be illegible. Not only that but the diameter of the viewable space is bigger will all the information enclosed and protected within the watch. All that the Citizen would ever need is a good polish on the stainless steel and maybe eventually a new crystal. When all the information rubs off or becomes scratched on the bezel, that functionality is lost or tainted.
Would be cool if you made video with Seiko Flightmaster and Breitling Navitimer, not duel, just two watch next to each other;)
Best in the business in reviewing watches , thoroughly enjoy watching your vids.
I simply admire the sound quality of your intros as well as their originality. thanks T
The most awesome of this one is the Predator intro. That was epic.
When it comes to the accuracy of the Eco-Drive, I have to say that my Citizen Calibre 8700 Perpetual Calendar is the closest to my Bulova Precisionist that I've ever owned. But I do like the looks of the Seiko better.
That new SARW025 with the pin stripe dial is absolutely gorgeous! Hurry the review please.
Haha, I will indeed,
Thank you Chris,
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TGV
Have the bj7000-52e, patiently waiting for my “Flighty”. Oh yeah, will WORK FOR SNA411!!
Woah, that chess-intro was next level! Very impressive!
Thank you Richard :D
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TGV
I am not a watch person and I have only one watch, Seiko kinetic premier. I was looking for my second watch and found this great channel.
Thanks to your other videos, I got to know yesterday that there is a category named "chronograph" (wow, a whole new world). Seiko SNA411 is unbelievably lovely.
I'll spend some time in this channel before I decide my next watch. Thank you so much for all the information. ♡
You will always give the edge to Seikos, not surprises there lol.
Very close call, to be sure. Seiko is my favorite brand, and I do like the Flightmaster, but the Nighthawk edges it out for me for a few reasons. First, I adore the GMT display (especially the plane hands). Second, I wanted to try an eco-drive (I love my Seiko recraft solar chronograph SSC667). Third, I like the internal rotating slide rule. Fourth would be the lug width. Fifth is the clarity of the lume display. And the sixth reason came down to price. I had been looking back to the Nighthawk and kicking myself for not getting one a few years ago. At the moment, now in 2020, the Nighthawk featured here is going for $500 or so. *But* I found the Blue Angels version -- which I actually prefer -- for $199, so I ordered one of those. I might have to get a Flightmaster in the future, though. Why settle for just one of these beauties?
Where can I get the Nighthawk Blue Angels for $199?
@@Kpaojd I'm not sure you can anymore. I ordered mine online from a chain jewelry store (pretty sure it was Helzberg Diamonds) that had it marked down (essentially on clearance) last year.
@@nerdbot37 ohh alright. I went ahead and ordered the Blue Angels Chrono for $340
@@Kpaojd Oh, nice. I think you'll be quite happy with that.
@@nerdbot37 oh I'm sure I will be
Hello, TGV! Excellent duel as always! I really like those intro (w/ beautiful shots and good scores (Predator is AMAZING!)). I was wearing my Nighthawk today @ work and, as always, this is the one that gets lots of compliments, even from the non-watch fans. I reallt was hoping tht the duel would finish with a draw, but I accept the result. Both are very unique, a nice addition to any collection and for this price range, almost unbeatable. P.S.: In terms of quality the Citizen's bracelet is superb. You didn't see it in person (because this came in a strap), but it is very well built and the clasp, finishing and fit are so good. Cheers from Rio, Brazil, my friend.
Great comparison and rteview ! If it wasnt for the brand, Citizen seems to be a better as a watch. I am going for it. Thanks for helping me make the choice.
The colors on that Seiko Presage! I can only imagine how satisfying it must have been to wind it for the first time. Can't wait for the review!
I had the citizen winning movement 9-8 and winning overall by 1
as per usual great face off and cannot wait for the seiko review simply the best horology review channel around, keep it up buddy!
The intros are getting more dramatic! Feel like I should be eating popcorn whilst viewing now!
LOL,
Thank you,
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TGV
I just jumped on the Flighty on a Massdrop. Just over $200 I think it will be a nice addition to my collection. My buddy got the very rare bule/white version, and if that ever comes back, I'll get one of those too. Not at the aftermarket prices, but at a reasonable $200-$300.
Thanks for the comparison. I have been eyeing the "Flighty" for some time due to my love of the navitimer...but I think the Nighthawk is wining my $$$. Keep it up!
Ahhhh... Looks like a close one... But... It's the Citizen that worked for me I guess. 😁
Thanks for great video man. Good stuff. 😊 👍🤗
I was so looking forward to this video to shed some light on my dilemma, and after watching it I'm even more confused now haha. They are so close! Thanks again TGV for a great video!
I paid $20 US for my Citizen and because of that plus finding videos like this makes it the absolute best watch.
Awesome intro music. Classic Arnie.
Thank you, it had to be done right?! ;-)
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TGV
No question!
This stuff will make you a god damned sexual Tyrannosaurus, just like me.
I missed out the first part of the quote for political correctness. Great video and intro more of that please TGV for those of us growing up in the 80's.
Long time watcher. First time commenter. TGV - love your content, you're developing my interest in horology with the videos you put out. Great stuff. Dan. P.s. That flighty is gorgeous, and what value..
Thank you Dan, glad to hear from you.
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TGV
I have the Citizen Nighthawk with the steel bracelet. But mine is the Japanese version and has an engraved back instead of the lasered back. I love the juxtaposition of the old school slide rule and the modern solar powered drive, and the clever 2nd time zone mechanism.... For around $200, it's a great unique watch.
Aren’t they all Japanese versions?
@@imaclown85 Maybe I'm mistaken on the name of the version (it's been 5 years since I looked into it lol), but one vesrion has a mirrored lasered back and the other version has a matte engraved back. The lume on the number marks is different as well. The mirrored version has the entire marking with lume, whereas with the engraved version just the tips of the markers have lume.. 5 years after this comment, I'm still wearing it everyday.
I would give the Nighthawk the slight edge. I like the uniqueness of the looks. Plus the fit and finish of the Nighthawk seems better. I love my Seikos, but in this case, I'd take the Citizen.
I got the flightmaster stopping the Nighthawk in the 4th round timeless classy great fundamentals. Champ is undefeated unless you bring floyd navitimer out of retirement but ofcourse the money is different
FANTASTIC duel. As a student pilot, Ive been looking forward to this duel for absolute donkeys !! ;)
I was hoping for a Citizen win but hey, as you said, its very subjective. There's just something very cool about the Nighthawk that i feel the 'flighty' is missing.
And that Seiko unboxing, wow. I think 'gorgeous' is the adjective we can all agree on.
Another excellent video, great job Tristano.
I don't why but Citizen is always my favorite one in any category. I'm talking not just about this watch but in general.
That intro was movie-level, man.
Very flattered, thank you.
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TGV
I still love how my Nighthawk looks. Busy looking dial but harmoniously placed. Just placed an olive green Nato on it and it looks damn amazing. It doesn't even look big to wear for a 42 case.
@graz ryan. I couldn't have said it any better myself summing up the look of the Citizen Nighthawk Pilot's watch dial--" Busy looking dial but harmoniously placed"! From one Citizen Nighthawk Pilot's watch lover to another-- very well stated!
I'm absolutely blown away by the Seiko SARW035, stunning watch, looks like it goes with pretty much anything.
Thank you Matt,
Cant wait to review it!
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TGV
Another great review 👍 best watch review site by miles in my humble opition, loved the Predator music 😆.
Thank you so much, very flattered.
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TGV
The Citizen Nighthawk movement (B877) is also +/- 15 s per month, not +/- 30 s per month.
I do think the Nighthawk is more unique, so I would give it 10 in the X-Factor. I saw one for $120.00 and I'm thinking about getting it. The Seiko feels to Navitimer, which some people will like, some won't, since it's not the Navi itself. I don't know, just my thoughts. Both great watches, obviously.
plz do tell where did you find one for 120?!
I got mine on Amazon Prime Day for 135. I've been wearing it every day for the last 2 years and it's absolutely my favorite watch ever.
The Seiko is a masterpiece at its price range. The Citizen is nice, the Seiko is class. (And yellow is more appealing with black than red maybe...)
omg!!! the theme from predator!!! brings back the memories... :D
Haha, well spotted, love that movie! ;-)
Thank you sir,
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TGV
I bought a Citizen Blue Angles last week, and after 30 minutes decided to return it. For me the watch has too busy a dial, and reading the small font a nightmare. It did look good and is a popular watch, and this is much more about me. You view these videos, and the watch face is much bigger than in real life, and when you get the real thing it is another story. Moral, go to a retail store first and see it live. However, I am now planning to bite the bullet and spend more for something like the Fortis Classic Cosmonaut Chronograph Ceramic or maybe the B-42. Either has a much cleaner dial, and is well respected, but of course completely different price points.
Right, so, I know TGV is a Seiko fanatic, so let me do a little digging. Movement: B877 has the same rated accuracy at the 7T* series... and is plenty reliable, they've been being made almost as long to boot (mid 90's). Brand: I'll conceed that Seiko is the more "prestigious" (though I chuckle at that being used for either brand) brand, though I'd say that Citizen is more true to it's roots than the modern Seiko, which is doing the Toyota thing and driving itself out out of the price bracket of most of its audience... otherwise great review and, if I had to give it a score, I'd say both tied up, they're both excellent pieces for different parts of the aviation community. FWIW I know military pilots that wear both
My first watch was a citizen and I took it to Afghanistan with me (2008). Mine was one of the few watches to make it through the whole year deployment. The sand and dryness is the devil on a watch but my Citizen never missed a beat.
I bought a nighthawk blue angels as after I got my job last year. I love it so much. Just bought a Seiko 5 as well.
Hi TGV, I do enjoy your videos and these got me into appreciating watches and in starting a collection since last year. I usually save up and buy a used watch in mint condition. The first one I bought for my dad's birthday was this Seiko flightmaster after watching your review of it. It is a great watch with so many features. The only thing I was not able to do was to set the alarm even after going through the manual. Other watches I now have is a Orient King diver from the 70s, a Seiko 5 Sports automatic, a Seiko V657 OB38 R2 for which there is little info on the net,, a Citizen 23 Jewel Automatic, an unusual swiss watch made by Brizo, a 20 year old swatch chrono, a mint Tissot PRS200 I grabbed by chance on ebay for cheap, a Casio edifice and my F-91W from primary school (still working). Thank you for your detailed reviews and tips.
Great video. I watched it multiple times. :)
I have both watches. They both look awesome, but I prefer the Nighthawk a bit better.
This Nighthawk would be even better if it was also atomic (kept the same dial). Citizen already has the technology.
This Flightmaster would be even better if it was solar (kept the same dial). Seiko has solar chronographs.
Both watches were updated (Citizen has newer atomic version, and Seiko has newer solar version),
but the look has been changed (which, in my opinion, is the best thing about these two watches).
I guess the newer/updated version of the watches are better (more practical),
but the charm was lost a bit (these two models look the best).
It would be good to have the newer technology, but keep the same look (because both watches look great already).
But, it’s aCitizen
Good job, love your channel, reviewing different price bracket of watches, because not just the expensive brands make good watches, and compare watches at the same level really good👍👌
I feel like a handy guy could shave half a millimeter off the inside of those lugs to make it 22mm. Might have to make sure there is enough depth still left for the spring bars but if you love the watch it'd be a fun little project.
I'm super late to the party as i just perchased the Nighthawk! 1 point is just about negligible. I would call it a draw. I guess if you really need a winner, a point is a point ;)
I loved your review of the seiko flightmaster and I just pulled the trigger on the flighty . .... Thanks... love your videos
Two features of the flighty I cannot deny as a pilot.
1. E6B can be used whilst in flight easier.
2. Having proper Zulu time with minutes and hour makes it functional for filing flight plans and such which are referenced to this.
I do like the eco drive movement, I’d prefer to change batteries to have those two features noted.
Perhaps the Skyhawk is a more even comparison.
My eco drives have been spot on for time consistency, just as good as any of my Seikos
The Nighthawk is NOT a pilots watch as far as I can tell. Many modern pilots do not wear a watch at all, others wear something digital - forgetting which, for a watch to be a pilots watch, traditionally, post the old flieger watches, do they not have to have both an alarm and a chronograph? The Nighthawk looks a fine watch in terms of build quality, it has character in terms of design and I like the technology, but isn't it a travel watch? Something for a business man, or commercial traveller who needs to keep track of multiple time zones? The Seiko has the alarm which also covers a second time zone, but crucially it has the chronograph and that is a must to be regarded as a modern pilots watch...as far as I understood it? Maybe I am missing something?
@The Urban Gentry - In the opening shot did you intend to have set up a Chess 960 position with each color's Queen's knight and bishop set up correctly but the King's knight and bishop swapped? It's totally legal in Chess 960 with the symmetry between colors so I'm not complaining, just curious.
Great review. I find it tough to pick between those two: the Nighthawk is super cool looking but that mineral crystal does put me off a bit. The Flightmaster is more of a pure tool watch so wins for me just because it's more what I need day to day. Both lovely watches though. I think the international reference for the Seiko at the end is SPB041, which might be helpful for anyone who wants to get hold of one.
TGV going crazy on the camerawork! Great job as always :)