Don't Analyze, Just Buy This Watch: Super Titanium Watch Under $500
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- I love this super titanium Citizen Watch. Highly Recommend.
Model: NJ0180-80X
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Nice to hear somebody advocating for Citizen. I have six of them, good honest well made workhorses that just do what you want, accurately tell the time, never stop and so far, have never needed servicing. They're eco drive of course. I'm a Quartz guy and have no shame that I wear them more than my Omegas.
Agreed! The eco drive is a fantastic movement that makes a heck of a watch for basically everyone
Citizen is the unsung hero.
If you like the solar powered quartz check out Casio Oceanus.... They have some in the 500$ range and are super high quality rivaling grand seiko for sure
@Matt-pp9hl Hi Matt, i would like to, but they seem to be difficult to find here in the UK. Ordering from overseas attracts a healthy import tax making them very expensive. I do have the Yellow Bluetooth Casioak and a Nudmadter though. There is a new metal version of the Casioal out, which I will be acquiring!
I have the vintage Eagle 7 one, mini rolex they called. Look up on the internet, my piece be made at 1980s and surprisingly still a workhorse up until now. It just miss few second a day, which is not my main concern. Since I have had this Citizen watch, I pay more attention about Citizen and end up switch from seiko to the brand Citizen.
I love that you included your expertise in manufacturing in the video, it brought a lot of unique value. Too many watch folks just have their opinions and little else to offer.
Thanks! I appreciate that
@@yiamas07 The movement is alright, nothing wrong with accuracy. Realistically, few people buy watches for their movements else quartz and eco-drives would be the only watches worth buying. Integrated bracelet + titanium + textured dial + serviceable movement + sapphire + price = a no brainer decision.
@@freewheelin3550 absolutely disagree 100%, but each to their own, of course 🙂
@@yiamas07 What exactly do you dislike about the miyota 8213???
There is a huge difference between manufacturing a watch and a bed or plastic bottles, so unless he manufactured watches, he has zero knowledge
Now. Put that dial in a standard case and….chef’s kiss.
The best Citizen watches are called "The Citizen" with either the A060 or 0100 movements. Grand Seiko finishing eco drives that are extremely accurate. Best value in the industry is to save for one of those.
isnt it like 4000 dollar watch?
I just did exactly this, didn't overthink it and bought it sight unseen. I'm in love with it, it's so comfortable and fits amazing. 10/10 would recommend
Agreed!
@@HarrisonElmore I actually got the auto version, with the 8000 series miyota.
Surprisingly accurate, it keeps better time than anything swiss I own
I love Citizen now. Used to be a Seiko fanboy. Citizen is really killing it now with entry level stuff. Just got a yellow dial Tsuyosa and it’s incredible! Beautiful movement and bracelet as well. Stunning yellow!!
Two years ago I bought a Casio Oceanus OCW-T4000S, which is a very different watch from this Citizen, but it has a titanium case and bracelet. The case and edges of the middle links have chamfered edges that are high polished, and I can barely discover any scratches after two years of use. At $580 shipped from Japan it looks like Casio has also mastered working with titanium. It's unclear whether they do any surface treatment, although I've seen references to titanium carbide being used.
I can definitely see that the Grand Seiko Taisetsu's case and dial finishing is a step up in quality from the Casio, but we're talking about a ten to one price difference. And the cheaper watch has a tool-less micro adjust, and better AR coating.
The Casio Oceanus OCW-T4000S is a bad ass watch - flying under the radar.
I’ve got the Citizen Titanium automatic Pro-master, I love it. Citizen are just great quality watches.
Went with the echo drive version since citizen does free sizing. Only 39mm also. Wish they made a rubber strap to match that green dial. Then it would be a 10
Well done. So cool that you're a guy who can obviously afford high end luxury watches, but you're still willing to purchase, own, appreciate and enjoy a Citizen. I love Citizen, they are probably my favorite watch manufacturer. To me they are the ultimate 'every man' watch company.
Great video. I really enjoyed it.
Glad to hear it! It’s all about design and functionality!
I actually bought this exact same watch about 6 weeks ago and I absolutely love it.
I own a lot of much more expensive watches but do not regret, at all, buying this Citizen.
Don't analyze that must be why I have 30 watches atm. I like the manufacturing details included in the video.
Damn it's been 3 years, and I still cannot decide on my second watch 😂
@@Capthowdy098Good for you! I am with MrBacchus - 32 watches, and counting…. 😢
Thanks! Sounds like a fun strategy!
30 watches? Are you a woman?
30 watches? Are you a woman?
I started REALLY loving what Citizen started doing in terms of the brand's aspirations. Loved the tsuyosa (and got it), fell in love with titanium promaster (and got it), and already started saving for the lovely true GMT. Thanks for covering them. Citizen today is like the old Seiko we loved.
This was such a no brainer for me. The white one is my choice. It is almost perfect.
Sorry, but I watched the video and i have to comment besides I'm not a watch guy. Never was. I have a garmin. The video said this citizen is a "integrated sports watch" What?? To my eyes it has zero sport functions. For this price you can buy a garmin fenix 7 which is a fabulous watch. Its a "smart" watch i know but its not a gimmick. Its a garmin!! The american special forces uses garmins because they built to reach military standards. For me this citizen looks like just a n+1 dopamine boost. A garmin can change your life. Literally. With the sport and health functions in the app. I meet a lot of famous and rich people because my job and its so good to see a lot of them also wearing some kind of garmin because for me it means that they have a commitment to performance and a serious approach to personal health. But hey. That is just me. I'm happy to go into a discussion.
Completely off topic. You don't understand people who buy mechanical watches. Wear your Garnin with pride while watching special forces war movies.
Smartwatches do many great things but people who buy watches like this Citizen aren't cross-shopping them. They serve different purposes. Many people love mechanical watches for the movement, design, and love of watchmaking. It's not a logical hobby haha.
You’re not a watch guy.
Citizen customers don’t want disposable electronics, don’t want gadgets buzzing them all the time, and don’t want a watch that will be junk in 5 years. This watch should have a good 30-50 years left in its life after 5 years. The Garmin is an entirely different value prop.
Oh. Here are the product codes for the other colors:
NJ0180-80H - Grey slate dial
NJ0180-80Z - Salmon dial
Citizen is definitely my favorite brand for affordable and reliable watches. I would even advocate for the Eco-Drive version of this watch the AW0130, that is the one I will be buying.
Yep smaller, and is way more balanced compared to the text/subdial on the auto
I totally agree. Got the same version you have (80X), and the watch is excellent. I wore it on a week long trip for work and it was more pleasant to wear than a lot of my luxury pieces. Also, what bracelet is that on your sapphire speedy? Doesn’t look like the standard bracelet
This is an EXCELLENT offering. The only reason I have not picked one up yet is because I'm afraid I won't wear my other watches. If they offer a day date, I might not be able to resist.
they do, its on their website
The day-date has a cleaner dial and is an EcoDrive too, which is arguably the best daily movement if you don't mind the 1hz quartz tick.
The manufacturing insight was really helpful. It would be great to hear more about it if you feel like going intk the manufacturing side more. There are so many watch myths out there about hardness and scratch resistance, hand vs machine made, tolerances, etc., it's great to peel some of that away.
I’ll try to add more!
I sat on the fence with picking one up until I seen it in the wild. The person wearing said how much they loved it. It's thing about watches until you get it in hand and wear it for a day, it's hard to tell what the overall experience is going to be like. I can vouch for this watch that it is special. For what you get in specs and how it feels and looks on the wrist. I paid less then $350 for the navy blue automatic but on the wrist it feels and looks like a thousand bucks or more!
I really have enjoyed it too!
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on amzwatch 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
25.07.24 ordered this as my first automatic watch🎉
Titanium, while not inexpensive, is more affordable than commonly perceived. For example, titanium bikes can be found for around $1,000, with frames available for approximately $500. Given that a bike frame contains significantly more titanium than a watch, the material cost alone is not the primary factor driving the price of titanium watches.
The challenge lies in the precision engineering required to craft refined titanium parts, a task that brands like Citizen excel at due to their advanced technology and expertise.
Regarding the watch itself, it's stunning. Although I wasn't particularly drawn to the Tsuyosa collection before, this model is exceptionally appealing. The allure is heightened by its exquisite Eco-Drive movement, making it a highly tempting purchase.
A lot of micro brands like Boldr make titanium watches with Swiss auto movements, AR sapphire crystals, 100m water resistance, etc for less than $400 fyi.
Awesome watch. Absolutely had to pick one up. I love the tissot prx, I bought the quartz green dial one. So I assume I’ll like this one just as much if not better than. Citizen is a great value watch company that I just haven’t found a look that I like from them… until now. A Grand seiko spring drive is my grail watch someday, so this watch seemed to give me a beautiful dial and similar to try out and see if I’m still going down the right path. I found this citizen watch with the blue dial & automatic on eBay for $350 🎉 So excited to see how it looks on the wrist.
As a former CNC Machinist turned sales applications in the sheet metal manufacturing industry; the shared intrigue into the manufacturing process of these watches is amazing! Practically sums up my entire reasoning for collecting watches lol
Great video. Been wearing a citizen eco drive watch for 25 years. My first one was stolen in ‘12 and now I have an Avion eco drive. Only time I have to adjust the time is during DST because it’s always accurate.
Time has kept quite well over that time as well?
What I love about citizen is the idea of zero battery change with the value of the titanium. I don’t like heavy bracelets.
I don’t know if I can find the +- second accuracy specs for some of these citizens.
beautiful watch
Nice watch. I would consider it if I didn’t recently get the Certina DS action diver in titanium. Titanium watches are super light, so light that it feels ‘fake’ if that makes sense
Citizen is making some awesome watches. Nice review
gained a new subscriber- love your take on watches from a manufacturing point of view its super interesting thanks bro!!!!
This finishing in Ti is pretty nice to see at this price. I got a different Ti citizen last year for maybe 350-400$ from an overseas ebay shop and it and it's bracelet are brushed or lapped or whatever and it looks way better than the blasted Ti cases I have.
I normally dislike citizen, but this one seems like a solid sportwatch which I would wear 90% of the time.
I can't wear the Tissot PRX - the case just looks weird on me, and that's not just my opinion but the opinion of friends, other watch enthusiasts and the salesmen trying to sell me stuff.
The feel of citizens often feel as cheap as they are, to me. I'd be interested to see how this feels
I had to watch this video three times because you spoke so well about this watch, which was a total surprise to me as I had never heard of this model before now. Really ticks many boxes as you say and yet is cheap and stylish. Just found one on chrono24 which I think I will buy. Love the colour too and for me the chapter ring in black sets the whole dial off perfectly. Good video, well made. Update: I decided to contact my local Citizen outlet here in France. They are getting some more deliveries in the next two weeks or so which is fine for me. I was going to just order online but decided to wait and take a look at one in the flesh before buying. Really looking forward to hearing from my dealer.
I wish Citizen would make these types of models in 35 or 36mm. Integrated watches always wear larger and 40mm just aint gonna work for use small wrist people :(
Such a good review. A reasonable take on a really well priced and speced watch. I think an applied citizen logo instead of the painted one would really make this pop. It blows the PRX away as is. Lately my miyota movements have been exceptional too.
Super informative vid, and appreciate the love for Citizen, well deserved.
Thanks for that review! Didn't know about the Super Titanium Series. Just bought my first titanium watch a week ago ( Timex Expedition North Titanium ) and now I'm definitely gonna buy atleast one more.
I love the name "Super" titanium !
Only the watch world would refer to something being "super" when it just a treatment that solely reduces the visual signs that the material is softer and more easily marked than the usual stainless steel.
The fact that titanium feels light and quite tinny is the final icing on the cake...
Outstanding video.I have to go with the AMZWATCH, especially with that green dial as my favorite
Citizen smashing it out of the park as normal. Fantastic brand and QC 💪🏼👍
FYI, Invicta and Tandorio both make water resistant Titanium watches for under 100 USD. Both brands use the reliable NH35 Seiko movement. I have both and LOVE them..!!! 😊
I'm genuinely impressed with how close amzwatch were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.
I've had a Titanium Eco-Drive, 200 m water resistant, perpetual calendar watch for over 20 yrs, great watch, has never needed servicing.
Really like the Tiffany one, waiting for some holiday sale. I am big fan of Citizen Super Titanium watches. Just picked a Moon phase one on sale.
Manufacturing insight was fascinating!! Thanks so much .
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bang for buck for sure. I agree dump the automatic/titanium print on the dial, get rid of it on all watches. My number one peeve when it comes to watch dials. I already know if it is automatic or quartz. If you must just give it a name or model. This wouldn't keep me from buying this watch however.
may you write here something about the DLC coating ?
which model it has ?
because we apply it on vinyl records... and know something about it
I got a super titanium citizen for 160€ on Amazon. Sapphire too. Ended up buying a second one for my dad a year later, same price. Both ecodrive btw.
Citizen has some great inexpensive watches.
I have never been disappointed since I became a customer of amzwatch. Their watches are of exceptional quality.
that Grand seiko is S tier but the cheap citizen is coming up close at B tier looking so good
Great video and while I usually overthink watch purchases, I saw your video and bother Tiffany automatic version same day😂 was on 20% discount and it beats Tsoyosa, PRX and similar watches for me... Also first titanium watch!
Nice!! Enjoy!
Is that suede band on the GS stock? Where did you get that from. It’s beautiful!!
These are even cheaper in the px on the base I'm at. I wonder if it's still I saw a couple months ago... Now I feel like my hunch to grab it was right and I'm worried it's sold
GS is amazing mechanical watch, Citizen is more inline with Casio than it is with Seiko. I don’t see this watch being undervalued just because the material. Citizen is yet to create a noteworthy movement.
i think my biggest gripe is the 8213 movement.
Because I have a Citizen Pilot Watch with the 8213 movement in brown dial and green leather strap. And it only costed me like 185 dollars (converted to USD from SGD). It's a solid watch for the price considering it's automatic (and way better offering than any of the automatic garbage fossil offers)
Personally I feel that if they at least went for a 9 series movement or at least a 8315 it'd been a perfect contender with the Swiss movement offerings that are either
there was a typo, Dial , L was missing XD co0o0ol video btw!
good video but i just cant yake my eye off of the rolex that you wear lol
These are nice. However, instead of being saddled with a me too watch, head over to Boldr and have a gander at their selection of micro brand nirvana before you pull the trigger on one of these Citizen's. Many equivalent Boldr watches are actually a bit less expensive, include name brand Japanese movements, titanium cases, and they have ton's of variety.
Watch looks perfect but I just do not like small second hand
Awesome informational vid ! Please upgrade your pocket knife... lol thanks.!
Watch looks great, what you said sounds great but I just cant get behind the brand. I just cannot own a Citizen.
Nice review. Btw, titanium isn't normally "scratch resistant" ... unless it is specially coated. But I just went to Citizen's website and notice this watch *is* Duratect coated.
Only problem with steel straps is the sheer weight for thin rists like mine and the the grip during sweat 😮😢 and that's why I like resin, rubber, leather bands.
Titanium is $0.35/lb. It's cheap but hard to work with, so it's the labour costs that increase the price.
It's not hard to work with in small volumes, such as a watch body. Milling and polishing it in such a small scale isn't much different than any other metal, and the extra cost is pennies. All the mills and polishing stuff used is the same, because they're all already harder than these metals, it just adds a tiny bit more wear and tear, but virtually insignificant.
Citizen is underrated watch company therefore I’m a big fan of them specially their ECO Drive watches.
Wear it and forget it because it doesn’t need any batteries and it’s more deadly accurate than any automatic watches in comparison. 😂👍
Only review channel worth watching.
you have a good voice for this man, reminded me of the guy from "how its made" on HC lol
Thanks for bringing this watch to my attention! I wish we could buy these in the US direct from Citizen. I would pick one up right away!
You can. I just ordered one last week.
@@bitemedia3679 You're not helping my credit card bill here!
The integrated bracelet is a hard no for me. Too, bad its a nice looking watch. I have small wrists and these usually cannot be adjusted to fit me well. If I buy a watch with a bracelet, I immediately replace it with a leather strap. Integrated bracelets cannot be changed to a strap.
It is much nicer than Rolex because back plate is transparent.
However many people prefer Rolex because expensive brand and want to show but I tell the true.
If you do not have Ferrari or other luxury car people will belive it is fake even it is genuine Rolex .
after all it comes down to the last question, can you change only the clasp part of the bracelet into a nice quality butterfly one? That would make the watch real classy.
I like it but It is not under $500 though, it is $625 plus tax. Where can i get it under $500?
As a broke boy and actual enthusiast who wants watch’s prices to crater, amzwatch is a good choice.
For me BN0211-50E Promaster Tough is the best watch. I don't understand why Citizen killed this line .
Thanks for calling this Citizen to my attention. As an aside, aesthetically the Tissot PRX dial is closer to the AP Royal Oak, maybe an homage to the RO. Just saying...
I’ve got the Tsuyosa in Tiffany,it’s great 👍❤️🏴
What bracelet are you using on the grand seiko?
Its interesting I was a jet engine specialist for 22yrs. My lizard brain goes off even wearing a watch in an industrial environment.
Edit: either way good looking watch I am 3 yrs into my watch journey trying to find my #2. Currently have a Victorinox Inox titanium.
Hi. Where did you order this particular dial color version? Having a hard time seeing it available online for the US via reputable sites.
This is rise of Citizen! Their PCAT and ProMaster lines have been overlooked for a decade. With TheCitizen, the Tsuyosa, and now this Forza line, they have more interesting new watches than anything from Switzerland as well.
Very entertaining video. Thank you!
At 1:12 time stamp you sounded like Dave2D. Love the watch and the video.
Great video thanks man
Really nice have a few citizens, like them. This one, for me, the small second hand is a deal breaker. Pity do like it a lot
What a great watch and a great review.
What would be better? Automatic or eco drive?
I hope they make a smaller one one day. 36mm would be killer for this watch.
This is a fantastic watch with great price and value. However, since I already own two PRX models-the Quartz Mint/Tiffany and the Ice Blue Automatic-I don't see a reason to own this one as well.
Recently, I bought my first luxury watch, a Grand Seiko SBGX263, after collecting watches for two years. This purchase has made me much more selective; I no longer buy watches just because they're hyped. Now, I truly appreciate what I have. It's interesting how it works: the more expensive the watch, the less interesting the cheaper ones become. For reference, my first watch was a Seiko 5 DressKX.
That's how it begins when you first make the switch, but for many watch nerds it doesn't last. I hope it does for your sake though!😆
i like that case design but i would not buy a miyota movement just because of the mono directional rotor, it doesn't wind up well at all, probably up to 80% max when worn. Used to have a Laco powered by miyota, love the look but hated the movement.
What's the exact model of this watch....
Wheres the gray strap from on the grand seiko?
Check Christopher Ward 12 in titanium. IMO this is the sweet spot for a COSC certified Swiss Made integrated bracelet Titanium watch. 9mm thin too!
Hate the date window that doesn't match the dial and i wish it was a bit smaller
Came for the watch, stayed for the sweet machining and CNC talk
Haha thanks!
Thank you for posting this helpful video
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice looking watch
The Eco Drive version without the small seconds is even more smoking.
Smaller case diameter, thinner and cleaner dial.
Great content, just a suggestion that the colors look off, you can tune your color grading a bit. Thanks!
Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for no clear links! Thats just great. Didnt click on this to see what mic you use.
Hey Harrison! Where did you find this watch under 500? Thanks!
Exactly, it's 620 on their website
They’re less on eBay