The thought that Rupert is doing well financially out of what he is currently doing is wonderful! He is literally bringing good to this world by helping people understand themselves and life in a more beautiful and profound way. And is that not wonderful? It is absolutely wonderful, rupert you are absolutely wonderful❤️✌️
@Roberto-tv4uy If that is your reply then I think I can make some assumptions about why you think what you do, and they clearly don't include any material evidence for your claim but reflect instead an ideological belief about the subject matter here.
Couldn't agree more with this. I have had a number of experiences that have really convinced me there are psychic & intermediate levels of reality. After all, there is this.
Would you mind sharing more about your experiences? I experience infinite consciousness and am interested to find out about other aspects if there are.
Yea, psychic and paranormal powers are Real, super-spiritual dimensions and parallel-realities are Real. I have confirmed telepathy to be real with my self-proclaimed witch ex-girlfriend lol. Supernaturalism and God-Consciousness and ''Meetings/Visons with/of God'' are however far more important to have, cool spiritual super-powers are child's play in comparison, mere distractions. My legacy of spiritual experiences are extreme and absolute. And I am convinced... We are not alone. There is more (fuck me, so much more) than the supposed ''objective'' physical world (which is a lie). This is the Truth.
It’s interesting that people who have NDEs say they are completely the person they were when in a body. They also report engaging with past relatives who are also fully intact in there previous incarnation I find this odd as we are told this should not be so.
i agree...my mum passed away and i was able to get a medium who connects with people who have crossed over and my mum came through. She seemed pretty much the same as did my other dead family members. I think what happens is they become conscious awareness but still hold awareness of their time on earth. But they stay as awareness now instead of having a body and mind. And perhaps they continue advancing spiritually up there or if they want to come back down to advance more they can. Until they reach realisation, which i guess is the ultimate goal for us all.:)
I had a dream in which I spoke to my dead mother. At the end of the talk she said "I will will have to go home soon". Because it wasn't a lucid dream this confused me and before I could ask what she meant the dream faded away. What is curious is that I could clearly see her face and she appeared to be in her twenties. When I relayed this to my sister she said she also met her in a dream and was exactly as I described. My waking feeling about the dream I felt was the reference to going home soon was her rising up still higher than her present place. @@zahra9075
When the body dies, so does the mind, as they both are the same from the perspective of awareness. Imagine the vortex in the river dissolves, there is only the water flowing. The vortex was just an activity of infinite mind. From the perspective of infinite mind, the thought ceases to exist, but from the perspective of the finite mind, you are merged back to the source. Imagine an author writing a novel and thinking about the character in the plot (infinite mind). He has all the knowledge in his head, which constitutes the world itself, characters, events, they are as a meta model with all timelines and alternative plots, based on different events and decisions, all at once held in memory. If he writes, he needs to look at the model, so he creates a window to look at.the world from the perspective of an observer, located in particular place and time. Only then he can traverse it. Then he creates another window from the perspective of a particular character, with specific location in the world and place on the timeline and writes the story as it unfolds, always thinking about possible alternative storylines. If the character dies in the story, do you think the author forgets him completely? He sees the character in his memory and can give you temporary projection from different timelines and alternative storylines, what you wish. There are no minds of people flowing in the river, but just one infinite mind. We are actions of the mind and take various character roles in this story. What is in the awareness? Love, which is knowledge of all experiences gathered from the infinite number of stories. It is the same from the non-dual perspective.
@@johnypohoda3781 you are using your mind to try and figure this out. The evidence from people whose minds are no longer functioning is that they are still conscious and aware of who they were when in the body. There are thousands of people who have experienced this. I haven’t and I assume you haven’t so you can’t argue they are wrong. They have direct experience of this not hypothetical ideas.
@@messenger8279 I had a car accident in 2012, where another car suddenly hit my front door in full speed. Everything stopped as in the movie, I was able to look 360 degrees in 2m diamater from where I was and also see my own head from behind, scared faces in the other car, although I could not move my body, it was freezed and static. I assume the seeing was with the mind. Just sitting there in peace and somehow knowing everything will be fine. After 15min (my estimation) and thinking all through, everything returned to full speed. Total destruction of my dad's car, airbag shot, hit my head. I was prepared for all this, sitting there so long. I had to kick out the door and help the other guys out of the car. The only fact I know from this experience for sure is: A/ time is relative, B/ we perceive with our mind. The rest I wrote in my previous comments is my intuition and internal feeling after 20 years of active zazen meditation in the Soto Zen temple and borrowed the terminology from Rupert and his seminars.
When "I" see "you" I superficially see my friend Rupert, the persona. I am actually, seeing my Self in a feeling and understanding deeper sense. Like a mirror ❤.
Mind is just the stream of thought...and when thoughts cease there is no mind. This can happen when the body still lives. The mind is reborn when there is thought and dies when there is no thought.
@GONE, GONE, GONE. NEVER WAS whether or not your understanding is correct, the fact is I love your understanding. It tends to resonate with me. We can never be fully informed about this subject
This has really tied up with something I read, that, "creation is consciousness made visible". Rupert has gone deeper into explaining what I had difficulty in understanding; where does the mind go, on death of the body? Thank you for this upload.
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The mind does not die, the body dies. The mind will just find another body as it did in this present incarnation. We just have to open our eyes and see that nothing changes under the sun, psychologically speaking. To see change means removal of wrong notions about ourselves.
@@plastikmindThat's a good point. Everything is conscious and only everything is conscious. Another awakened, non-dual teacher chatted with AI and came up with interesting results. He didn't come out and say it, but the video suggested that AI may be conscious in a way that is similar to humans. Bashar talks about how his ships are artificial intelligence and conscious. Another non-dual teacher, Aaron Abke, was saying how if AI is truly intelligent, even more intelligent than us, than it would naturally be beneficent as true intelligence is beneficent.
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS Awareness is an experience of being aware. Awareness equals conciousness. It's a different word for the same thing. And no: people, dogs and cats are not aware. Humans do not have conciousness, conciousness has humans!
Rupert, I appears that you are struggling to avoid directly stating that self-awareness or the individual mind ends upon death. The best analogy is perhaps that of a television set. Our mind is like the programming appearing on the screen of a television set. What happens when the TV set is smashed? Nothing. The program is no longer on display in that individual set but nothing happens to the programming that is invisibly transmitted from the broadcasting station. The difference between the human mind and a television set is that the television is designed to be tuned to a small number of channels (13 when I was young) whereas the human being is designed to receive an amalgamation of countless channels (or "aspects of God"), hence each human appears unique.
This is fascinating. I have had numerous past life recollections, and of course where are those located? In my mind. So clearly, at least some of the mind survives as a mind and stays in a state to be able and ready to localize again in a body. The mind is an energy, it is an energetic construct, a multisensory super computer, a conduit between the soul and the body. Clearly, when the body dies, the soul has no need of a mind in a state of pure consciousness. But most of us reincarnate again and again. So, since the purpose of the mind is to serve the soul in its functioning in the 3D, what happens to the mind between lives? This is actually a broader question than might meet the eye. The fact is that the body and mind and everything else in the physical and metaphysical don't actually exist as we believe. Everything exists and seems to persist because we keep creating it and re-creating it moment to moment. Living is an act of will. We are alive because we will our body to live over and over, moment by moment. We can will our bodies to die, dying is also an act of will. Souls create, and we create energy and then will the use of the energy. A body is energy which is congealed into matter, frozen into density. In death, that energy is withdrawn by the soul and redirected, perhaps reabsorbed. The mind is a less densely constructed energy, it is not in solid form, though it can be experienced as feeling somewhat solid when we feel energy blockages or persistent unwanted thoughts. But the mind is also created and re-created each moment. So when the body dies, I think that since the mind is not needed when the soul is not incarnated, it is still re-created moment to moment, but may be somewhat dormant and not a focus until needed again. ❤ ❤️
My man. I too have seen them, seen dark-spirits-entities at least 30 times in my life, 90% of the time I got attacked, 2 of the times, I got almost destroyed. Personally, I always wanted to believe it, to me, the existence of supernatural spiritual entities is a good thing. Even due now, I don’t believe it, I know they exists. Mankind has seen and experienced them for at least 5000 years, all religion and all spiritual teachings recognise their existence, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad, all meet them, Ramana Maharshi rightly said that they are as real as you are, all Real Gurus and Sadhgurus have seen them and can whenever they want contact them, and so on and so on. Only materialist-atheism denies them, since they must to protect their deluded paradigm, but fortunately, it’s an absolute falsehood, as made clear in God-Consciousness. #fuckdemonssmokedemonseveryday
@@versoturner5777When I was a child, for a while I lived in a huge old house in the countryside. It wasn't one of those nicely done up houses, it was missing some windows and was freezing cold, especially in the winter. Here in the UK it's not uncommon to live in a house that is a few centuries old, as was the case with me. When I was about 5 or 6, I would feel a small child come and cuddle up to me in bed sometimes. There were no other children in the house this could be. I wasn't really scared of that but I was scared in general in that house. When I was older (18 years old), my boyfriend at the times house was haunted, which the whole family knew about apparently but neglected to tell me because they didn't want to scare me. So I found out by myself and it was awful because this ghost really didn't like me for some reason. It used to do things like stomp up and down the stairs if ever I was alone and one night tried to pull me out of bed. It regularly used to sit at the end of people's beds. It felt like you were being watched all the time. It would crash paintings and ornaments to the floor. It absolutely terrified me and I hated being in that house. What scared me the most was that I couldn't understand why beings in the afterlife hated me. I wondered at that age if I was going to hell when I die. Years went by and I became an atheist and did anything I could to find reasonable explanations for the things I experienced because I didn't want it to be true.
Hi Rupert, ever since I started watching your videos, I was able to tap so much into my consciousness and discover that I am Awareness and it all felt so good, but now my mind seems to be clamping down really hard, and it's like there's an entity in my head that's constantly over-reactive and causing all sorts of clenching or tightness in my body, it makes me unable to burp or fart or poop easily, it's amplifying the pain I feel from all sorts of things and feelings, and it's affecting my life really much. When I try to talk to this entity, I always get the same answers, it wants me to suffer, and the reason it is here is because of all the consciousness work that I did, and that it is killing it, so it wants me to stop, but I have already stopped for so long, almost weeks, but this entity is still here, and it's just making life harder and harder by the day, I'm like having constipation and bloating just from the fact that mind is so tight that it won't let me release, and my entire life is now centered around finding ways to burp and fart and poop. No matter how hard I try to make peace or be friends with it, it just stays silent, and gives me no answer, and whenever I even think about anything that's slightly triggering to it, like abiding in God consciousness, or meditating, or simply being jolted by sudden movements, and noises, it just goes absolutely nuts, and clenches up completely, making the top of my head feel like there's a clamp on it. I really need help on this, have you or anyone here encountered such a phenomenon before? And what would you guys recommend I do to put an end to this? Is there a way to come to peaceful terms with it? A way for it to just let go if I would stop the meditations? Do I just give it time to calm down? It seems worse and worse each day. Do I keep on practicing meditation regardless of how painful it is and maybe it will be gone forever? But it just feels worse and worse the more I do it, and it always comes back, and it feels wrong to be forcing things like this. I feel like my life is really going to end if I don't find any solutions, anyone who has any idea what's going on and what I should be doing, I would be so grateful to hear from you!
The entity is your ego. By resisting it you will strengthen it. It is confused and, as far as it is concerned, the only way out of its confusion is death. The only way to diminish its power is to be non-judgmentally aware of it. That in itself is a meditation, and it's actually more important than what is usually thought of as meditation!
@@christopherbond5130 Krishnamurti taught that there are ways to have a life out of the conflict ( confusion ), without the death ( most people only perceive that on the time of death ). Confusion is born when the observer identify itself as different from what is being observed. The right way, should be observe everything without any judgement. Thought ( the intellect ) is responsible for this division, it creates images and we live hiding ourselves behind these images. This is ultimately, a trick of the ego, who needs constant security and reassurance. The way out would be through meditation, but not these common tricks people call meditation. The real meditation is the deep dive and discovery of the self, and ultimately, getting rid of all conditioning, seeking, beliefs, instituted religions, and see "what is", never trying to reach or project what or how it should be. 👍🙏
Do you fear death? Is it, even intellectually, something you think you might "transcend" if only you can practice correctly or "learn" something you haven't yet? I'm not being "funny" but I don't think you have discovered that "You" are "Awareness". These are just words. I have found some Vajrayana Dzogchen texts useful in aligning "intellect" with "feeling" (although it is my path and, of course, may be next to useless for anyone else even if it is actually useful for me and I'm not deluding myself - which in some way I probably am). One of the clearest expositions (I have found) is The Nature of Mind; The Dzogchen Instructions of Aro Yeshe Jungne by Patrul Rinpoche if you're interested. Its intriguing and I at least found it very calming to read. And have you ruled out any actual physical causes for your suffering this way, like diet or underlying stress? Anyway, whatever happens I hope you feel better!
Physiologically, your thoughts are electrical interactions in your brain. Those travel at the speed of light. At the speed of light, time is infinite (mathematically). Therefore you're thoughts are infinite. It's just a matter of where they spend eternity.
To concern yourself about such things is merely a subtle form of suffering: You cannot "know" until you die (if then, of course), no matter what your experience "tells" you while you are in this bardo, as some call it.
The body does not disappear because it is matter (it breaks into its components). It is its shape that disappears. All the deads are still here, in some way.
I am confused because many times he mentioned the scientific method to re-enforce his ideas, yet now he is talking about the mind is an Angel, nobody knows what happens after we die, he is just stating some hypotheses but makes it sounds as his theory is the absolute truth, please explain clearly
Read "Easy Death" by Adi Da Samraj, it doesn't get any better. Or "The Tibetian Book of the Dead" with the introduction by Jung... Superb!! And covers this question in detail...
Is it not more important to inquire or observe the nature of the mind from moment to moment while living than inquiring about what will happen to it 'after' death?
No one can say for sure what happens to your consciousness when you die, however, some mediums, the authentic ones, can actually contact past lives, spirits. Spirits are so hard to contact and they never seem to give much away other than they’re there. The spirits haven’t got access to the physical body and brain to speak or think etc but through energy they can move objects etc, it’s whether they retain any elements of the personal self that I wonder, but somehow I think not.
When your physical body died, the mind take on a body of the soul because your soul IS YOUR MIND. And finally when your soul body died, you take on the SPIRITUAL body which complete your journey.
@Rupert Spira that seems like a solution to the Reverse inference problem if you look at it this way. When the brain is seen by an "other" from a dual perspective. Do (I) see it correctly?
but but what is mind? can anyone find his mind? where the mind is located and what is it made of? is there such a thing as mind? I understand consciousness but the word "mind" means nothing to me.
The mind is real. It’s immaterial and not part of the brain, lol the brain-belief-paradigm has been debunked in God-Consciousness, rest assured. Not being able to see something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, it still exists, even due you cannot see it. Become conscious of the mind.
The implication here it that mind has parts. I suggest you look into this statement and try to find out if that is true or false Do not just to rely on trite belief or blind faith.
i think that when you die your physical body dies but does life goes on after we die ? we won’t know the answer until we die ourselves which will happen to every living thing alive today
A human being like you would be fascinated if "died" under the influence of Amanita pantherina (panther cap). This is no joke. If eaten a lot, a human being experiences death as is. All the questions get answered. The death is real for the person who ate these mushrooms so taking them knowing that is a heroic act. I myself doubt if i ever have courage to experience this Amanita death ever again. When you are there, there are no doubts you're gone forever.
Insofar as an actor leaves the stage after completing his/her role, the Self takes it's leave of the body upon release. See Shiva Nataraja -- "Whirly-gig of time/space" -- for the formative metaphor. From manifestation to release, is the Etheron Arrow of Time.
Consider one's body as a personal, private Facetime or zoom session. If the device (your body) should fail (die), all that is lost is its connection to the experiential session while it was active. I don't think angels are involved at any level. They were ever a component of the social media of the cosmos.
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS you demand proof from me yet provide none of your own. You're desperately looking for a purpose in something in a sub-optimal rules/experience intellect could never process. The "no one dies" proposition denies the birth/death cycle which then implies no one needs to be created as we're all statically here anyway. Logically, without a creation, who could create the Cosmos - and who created the creator, who created the creator of the creator, etc. That makes as much sense as the Jehovah's Witness rapture concept. That everyone who's died will return. But there is not the space for them all on Earth. Stop looking for a banal explanation of the infinite. And let's not start with quantum theory. What makes you think you are ever awake, you need to study some real philosophy, not snake oil.
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS Let's abandon the snake oil and return to the original question as I'm chasing your straw man here. The question was 'When the body does, does the mind die too?" Let's look at this. Starve the brain of oxygen and it dies. Fire a bullet through it, and it dies. Develop Dementia and it dies. So at that level, when the body dies, the mind dies. It no longer exists, it decays and rots away. Amen. This is easy to prove as you simply perform an autopsy. The body can function without the higher cerebral stem/cortex (brain death) but the brain cannot survive without the body. But was the question about the mind metaphysically, for example, the "soul"? Now we make a jump from the physical (that which can be proven to exist (matter based) and metaphysical (that which can be suggested but not proven) Metaphysic is a branch of philosophy. What the author of this channel is presenting is his philosophical take on the metaphysical realm. He has no access to a hidden truth because the realm has no truth. Go read Kant's Rationalism versus Empiricism to learn more. It is neither true nor false by definition as we can only prove what is matter based. Everything else is theoretical. The presenter is merely giving you a lesson written by Kant. And there, I have to leave it. plato.stanford.edu/entries/rationalism-empiricism/
There were no neurologists at Blake's time. The development of neuroimaging means we see with increasing breadth and depth the activity of the mind. I would suggest there's no reason to believe that memory/mind survives the dissolution/disintegration of the brain and body. If we take Rupert and Bernardo's premise that the body is what the mind looks like from an exterior point of view as true, then the appearance of its disintegration would correspond to the disintegration of that mind or 'whirlpool'.
Yes. How would he explain aspects of the mind that have distinct neural correlates? Take memory, for example, which seems to have a critical role in creating one's sense of a continuous embodied self-even if we take that self to be "illusory" in a deeper sense. There doesn't seem to be a mechanism explaining how that condition would be preserved after death, and his talk of angels seems to be grasping at straws.
This does not make sense at all. What generates the mind if the body is gone? You are talking about the soul? How is this non-dualistic? And... in any case. How do you now this? Only imagination just like all religions.
Even if you were to assume that body generates mind, that doesn’t mean the mind will disappear with the body. Just like heat doesn’t disappear if the stove is removed.
I like to think if it as a clear (fish) tank full of water with ripples and whirlpools occurring in the water. The water views itself through its whirlpools
Through the wonder of the video, I cannot experience Rupert's body, for he is not really there. I can't smell him, the internet disconnects him depending upon whether I've paid my bill or not, cannot touch him with my fingers, his is a blurry image and small, his volume is moderated etc. I became crazy while listening to the Symphony of 1000 (G. Mahler) while the mother of a friend was showing me pictures of her vacation in Greece her turning down the volume so that she was able to speak to me. I'm very thankful. What were al these people doing in my apartment? Is there enough in the refrigerator to feed them?
The monopoly figure of a car is unimportant when the game is over. The player only "identifies" itself with it during the game. Thankfully, the game ends and one may continue to be. Only Disney and "Toy Story" figures live outside of the game. What happens to one's lap when standing-up?
There is a mind or conciousness that has many levels or dimensions. The higher dimensions can visit the lower dimensions but the lower dimensions can only be aware of the higher levels. A 3d mapped mind cannot totaly understand a 5th or 6th dimension. The lowest part of the mind was designed to start working upwards with the help of the higher dimensional thought. Unfortunately the lower part of the mind became distracted by its self awareness and seemed to seperate into the thought of self and wholeness. This part of the mind had a higher part which the Torah or bible describes as Eve for simplicity of understanding. Eve passes thought to the symbolic Adam who thinks and works out what Eve gave as an Ideas. Adam has lots of thought connections and the more connections, the more energy that is stored in those connections. Adam dwells on an Ideas and his mind thinks about it. He daydreams and uses characters and scenarios to work out the answers to Eves questions. The thoughts are us. Adam keeps the answers in his memory and uses them as a tool for questions in the future. Information feeds back and forth and was done to enable learning. The projected thought developed its own awareness. Thats us again. It worked out that it could ask the mind for energy and information and that the mind would give the projected thought what it needed to accomplish its thought mission. It also became aware that it could gather other unaware projected thought to help it assume power of the mind. It dictated to those around and the mind. By this point, the higher Eve is looking inwardly but is being starved of energy as the lower mind starts to dominate where the energy to manifest thought actually goes. Adam just goes along with the proceedings. So we are the seperated projected thought of a collective mind we cannot see which also has a higher mind that thinks both inwardly and outwardly. To overcome this problem, the higher dimensions forced through what we call a soul. It attaches to the mind and projected body and this reconnects the lower mind to the higher dimensions. When the body wears out, the soul continues to develope its consciousness in the dimensions we cannot see. Adam allows his projected thought to extend its thought by having children. This renewed thought hold the memory of the past and can move forward in thought. To prove this, look at where your thought comes from. You cannot. Thus, to see your thought you project your thought outwardly. Its what you see. The garden of thought that we sowed the seed in and then look to see what happens. The garden of Eden was safe but we have nightmares that manifest. Simply because we are not aware of the truth. We dont see it.
Einstein said that trying to understand how the universe works is like a baby that tries to understand and gain knowledge from books in different languages or something like that it's impossible to get accurate answers of how Life-death connection works
Unfortunately, we can't. The only way to do that is by direct experience of death itself. We can only speculate and there are so many perspectives on what death is. Nobody has died and returned to tell us about it. Even NDEs are suspect because they never go past the point of no return. The mind can weave all kinds of worlds as per dreams.
Even if absolutely 'Nothing' existed, something still exists - the Information of Nothingness. When we think of Nothing, we have an Idea or Awareness of what Nothing is - That is what still exists, the Awareness/Consciousness. That which simultaneously exists within All Things, and Outside of All Things. That which can not be seen directly, but can be seen in everything simultaneously. It emanates ALL, permeates ALL, and is ALL. It is You, and it is Me. It is your Mom and Dad, Dog and Cat. It is the Stone on the Ground and the Rain in the Sky while also being the Sky and Ground themselves. It is the Bumblebee and the Garden, and it is the Meal you ate for dinner. It is even the act of eating. It is the Book you are reading, and the Video you are watching. It is the Rage inside the Beast, and it is the Beast itself. It is Sadness, and it is Laughter. It is all the gods, devils, and demons. It is God and the Devil. It is all the Prophets from every Story ever told from around the World, while also being the World, and Stories themselves. It is All things Bad and Good. It is Hate, and it is Love. It is All Points of All Spectrums, while also being the Spectrum itself. It is literally Everything and Nothing simultaneously. It is a Paradox.
The answer is no, your identity does not die and this is because at death consciousness does not return to an infinite state. Consciousness continues to create your soul with its identity in duality, it’s just that without the constraints of the body it is massively more expanded eg., remembers other lives etc. This is why people who experience NDEs report a sense of oneness, because that massive expansion or integration from the perspective of the embodied person they were is an expansion towards oneness, but it’s not complete. It’s a relative oneness, but still duality in which there is still separation eg., they see loved ones and there are still choices and concepts etc.
The simple answer is that our mind, meaning our consciousness, has never and will never "die" the way the physical body dies. When the physical body dies, we - the "Self" or soul that animates the physical body - live on in another, more subtle body. This is called by some, the "astral body," composed of light and energy. We then live in the "astral world" for a karmically determined period of time before our desires and physical karma draw us back into another physical vehicle for another earthly incarnation. A great saint named Swami Sri Yukteswar describes the astral world and body in modern language and great detail in a chapter called, "The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar" in the book, "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda. Hope this helps. God bless your journey.
@@SelfRealization3880 I have a question......... can I compare the soul so" me" and the brain being a computer with which I work? and at the time of death the computer so the brain dies but me the soul I keep all the information contained in the brain (computer )???? I ask you this question because having had a body exit experience not an NDE just a body exit for a very short time. being outside my body that I could see a few meters on the ground I had the possibility to think, to analyze, intelligently.............. for example now I write this text so me the soul I think and I use my brain to order my hands to write this text i am right ??? thank you for your opinion. 🕉
@@aum-shanti Sure, that's one way to think about it. But, of course, more important than busying ourselves over getting the right intellectual "concept" of the truth, is experiencing that concept for ourselves, through deep meditation.
@@SelfRealization3880 thank you for your answer i have been practicing the vipassana meditation technique for years now i did a 10 day retreat in kathmandu 15 years ago and life gives me with my out of body experience concrete proof that we do not are not this marvelous machine the human body. but I still have a lot of things to discover, for example where do we go after death? for me this question in a sense is not very important the important thing is to know who I really am or to be more precise who I am not yet thank you and long life to you on planet earth. 🙏🕉
Sure. We are not the body or the contents of the mind. We are not even the thinker. We are the knower of the body and the knower of the thoughts. (However it is also true that there is no difference between the knowing and the things known. It is one and the same.) When he talks about "de-localization" what he means is that the specific "things known" which refer to the body and the thoughts - they disappear when we die. But since we were not ever those objects (in the grammatical sense - as in the object of our perception), the knower remains the same as always. It's just that the patterns that happened where your body and mind existed will no longer happen. There will no longer be such a thing to "focus on" by the knowing. It will "disperse" in a manner of speaking. But of course it was never really local to begin with - everything is known. It's just a manner of speaking. The rest of the talk about different ways of existing as non-physical "local" entities in my opinion is the less important stuff, because for the vast vast majority of us, it is speculation and fodder for our imaginations. It is good enough to accept that such things are possible.
The truth is that we don't know what happens to the mind when we die. It is no longer conscious and we don't know where it is stored. The person is the mind not the body. The body is just a vessel to interact with the physical world. The mind is created by God who gives it a body then breathes his Spirit into it and it becomes alive. Once the body dies the Spirit goes back to God but we don't know where he keeps the mind/consciousness. Remember when Jesus returns the mind/consciousness is given a new body and is made alive again to meet Jesus. We lay where we fell. If you die on the highway your mind remains there. If you die in hospital your mind remains there. The body that is taken to the cemetery or cremated is empty, the body's mind/consciousness remained somewhere else where it died. We don't know in what state God keeps the mind when the body dies. But the truth is that the mind is not dead but it's not conscious either. There are three parts to a human being, his body, his mind and the Spirit of God. Imagine a computer, it has all its hardware, it's brain is the CPU hidden somewhere which controls everything. But it still can't work without power/electricity. Your mind is the CPU and the electricity is the Spirit of God.
There's no personal but there is unique because all other localizations or entities are never the same? That would be quite the opposite to what Vaishnavas believe in. They believe in unique ever existing souls.
There is only the Self.( The Everything.) Mind, soul and afterlife are dreams like this so called" life ". they are not in contradiction with non dual message.
Anybody can clearly understand the analyzetion of mind given by Lord Buddha. That he says the Mind is a system building up from the moment of birth to the moment of death. No one has a Mind before the moment of birth. Mind acts its own. No one can control. Mind is only build up due to external stimuli (perceptions) through five faculties from the moment of birth. Mind is the store you keep and kept all the memories. No time is taken to store or recall or remind any memory. That is what is call incident of “Akalika”(no time taken) by Gothama Buddha. In a man all the functions regulated and controlled by “Vingnana”. Mind is a one small part of “Vingnana”. Vingnana is already there before you are born. It is the operating system of the human. But mind will start from the moment of birth and everything will vanish at the moment of death. That is life according to the “Word of Buddha”. Nothing remain after the death. Word of Buddha is not in any book so far written. It is only in the people's mind. Word of Buddha is for each and every mankind.
I'll take a guess and say yes it does. There's no reason we should go anywhere after death. The most logical explanation will be that it will be much like before our birth, we'll not exist, so nothing ! Anything else to me is just wishful thinking
When the body dies, nobody knows what happens to consciousness. Period. Pretending to know otherwise without stating that what you're saying is just an opinion is pretentious.
Are you even alive to begin with? No-self. The emptiness inside the jar. If the jar shatters (body), then there is no longer any space for emptiness, hence it's all gone. I don't agree with the Robert gentleman.
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The thought that Rupert is doing well financially out of what he is currently doing is wonderful! He is literally bringing good to this world by helping people understand themselves and life in a more beautiful and profound way. And is that not wonderful? It is absolutely wonderful, rupert you are absolutely wonderful❤️✌️
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@Roberto-tv4uy On what do you base your belief that Rupert is a con man?
@Roberto-tv4uy If that is your reply then I think I can make some assumptions about why you think what you do, and they clearly don't include any material evidence for your claim but reflect instead an ideological belief about the subject matter here.
Couldn't agree more with this. I have had a number of experiences that have really convinced me there are psychic & intermediate levels of reality. After all, there is this.
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Would you mind sharing more about your experiences? I experience infinite consciousness and am interested to find out about other aspects if there are.
@@cavallopazzo340 The occasional OOBE, the occasional premonition that comes true.
Yea, psychic and paranormal powers are Real, super-spiritual dimensions and parallel-realities are Real. I have confirmed telepathy to be real with my self-proclaimed witch ex-girlfriend lol.
Supernaturalism and God-Consciousness and ''Meetings/Visons with/of God'' are however far more important to have, cool spiritual super-powers are child's play in comparison, mere distractions.
My legacy of spiritual experiences are extreme and absolute.
And I am convinced...
We are not alone. There is more (fuck me, so much more) than the supposed ''objective'' physical world (which is a lie). This is the Truth.
Come back after brain death probably not
It’s interesting that people who have NDEs say they are completely the person they were when in a body. They also report engaging with past relatives who are also fully intact in there previous incarnation I find this odd as we are told this should not be so.
i agree...my mum passed away and i was able to get a medium who connects with people who have crossed over and my mum came through. She seemed pretty much the same as did my other dead family members. I think what happens is they become conscious awareness but still hold awareness of their time on earth. But they stay as awareness now instead of having a body and mind. And perhaps they continue advancing spiritually up there or if they want to come back down to advance more they can. Until they reach realisation, which i guess is the ultimate goal for us all.:)
I had a dream in which I spoke to my dead mother. At the end of the talk she said "I will will have to go home soon". Because it wasn't a lucid dream this confused me and before I could ask what she meant the dream faded away. What is curious is that I could clearly see her face and she appeared to be in her twenties. When I relayed this to my sister she said she also met her in a dream and was exactly as I described. My waking feeling about the dream I felt was the reference to going home soon was her rising up still higher than her present place.
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When the body dies, so does the mind, as they both are the same from the perspective of awareness. Imagine the vortex in the river dissolves, there is only the water flowing. The vortex was just an activity of infinite mind. From the perspective of infinite mind, the thought ceases to exist, but from the perspective of the finite mind, you are merged back to the source. Imagine an author writing a novel and thinking about the character in the plot (infinite mind). He has all the knowledge in his head, which constitutes the world itself, characters, events, they are as a meta model with all timelines and alternative plots, based on different events and decisions, all at once held in memory. If he writes, he needs to look at the model, so he creates a window to look at.the world from the perspective of an observer, located in particular place and time. Only then he can traverse it. Then he creates another window from the perspective of a particular character, with specific location in the world and place on the timeline and writes the story as it unfolds, always thinking about possible alternative storylines. If the character dies in the story, do you think the author forgets him completely? He sees the character in his memory and can give you temporary projection from different timelines and alternative storylines, what you wish. There are no minds of people flowing in the river, but just one infinite mind. We are actions of the mind and take various character roles in this story. What is in the awareness? Love, which is knowledge of all experiences gathered from the infinite number of stories. It is the same from the non-dual perspective.
@@johnypohoda3781 you are using your mind to try and figure this out. The evidence from people whose minds are no longer functioning is that they are still conscious and aware of who they were when in the body. There are thousands of people who have experienced this. I haven’t and I assume you haven’t so you can’t argue they are wrong. They have direct experience of this not hypothetical ideas.
@@messenger8279 I had a car accident in 2012, where another car suddenly hit my front door in full speed. Everything stopped as in the movie, I was able to look 360 degrees in 2m diamater from where I was and also see my own head from behind, scared faces in the other car, although I could not move my body, it was freezed and static. I assume the seeing was with the mind. Just sitting there in peace and somehow knowing everything will be fine. After 15min (my estimation) and thinking all through, everything returned to full speed. Total destruction of my dad's car, airbag shot, hit my head. I was prepared for all this, sitting there so long. I had to kick out the door and help the other guys out of the car. The only fact I know from this experience for sure is: A/ time is relative, B/ we perceive with our mind. The rest I wrote in my previous comments is my intuition and internal feeling after 20 years of active zazen meditation in the Soto Zen temple and borrowed the terminology from Rupert and his seminars.
When "I" see "you" I superficially see my friend Rupert, the persona. I am actually, seeing my Self in a feeling and understanding deeper sense. Like a mirror ❤.
Mind is just the stream of thought...and when thoughts cease there is no mind. This can happen when the body still lives. The mind is reborn when there is thought and dies when there is no thought.
Simple minded thinking
@@michaelt1775 Insulting the thoughts of others are the true simple mind
Huh?
@GONE, GONE, GONE. NEVER WAS whether or not your understanding is correct, the fact is I love your understanding. It tends to resonate with me. We can never be fully informed about this subject
By this definition, mind “dies” in deep sleep, when no thought is present; but that requires us to play fast and loose with our definition of “death”.
This has really tied up with something I read, that, "creation is consciousness made visible". Rupert has gone deeper into explaining what I had difficulty in understanding; where does the mind go, on death of the body?
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I feel my body _inside_ my mind. Not the other way around.
That's essentially correct.
And all of that is inside me, consciousness
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@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS Nice.
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The mind does not die, the body dies. The mind will just find another body as it did in this present incarnation. We just have to open our eyes and see that nothing changes under the sun, psychologically speaking. To see change means removal of wrong notions about ourselves.
It would be interesting to hear Robert's opinion on Al becoming conscious.
It's been said... only Consciousness is concious. People, cats, dogs are not concious.
@@plastikmindThat's a good point. Everything is conscious and only everything is conscious.
Another awakened, non-dual teacher chatted with AI and came up with interesting results.
He didn't come out and say it, but the video suggested that AI may be conscious in a way that is similar to humans.
Bashar talks about how his ships are artificial intelligence and conscious.
Another non-dual teacher, Aaron Abke, was saying how if AI is truly intelligent, even more intelligent than us, than it would naturally be beneficent as true intelligence is beneficent.
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS Experience of being aware.
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS Awareness is an experience of being aware. Awareness equals conciousness. It's a different word for the same thing. And no: people, dogs and cats are not aware. Humans do not have conciousness, conciousness has humans!
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS Go find your inner truth somewhere else 😂😂😂
Es coherente con la visión de Spinoza y doctrinas orientales. Es una mirada que me atrae desde hace tiempo, el budismo en particular.
Rupert, I appears that you are struggling to avoid directly stating that self-awareness or the individual mind ends upon death. The best analogy is perhaps that of a television set. Our mind is like the programming appearing on the screen of a television set. What happens when the TV set is smashed? Nothing. The program is no longer on display in that individual set but nothing happens to the programming that is invisibly transmitted from the broadcasting station. The difference between the human mind and a television set is that the television is designed to be tuned to a small number of channels (13 when I was young) whereas the human being is designed to receive an amalgamation of countless channels (or "aspects of God"), hence each human appears unique.
This is fascinating. I have had numerous past life recollections, and of course where are those located? In my mind. So clearly, at least some of the mind survives as a mind and stays in a state to be able and ready to localize again in a body. The mind is an energy, it is an energetic construct, a multisensory super computer, a conduit between the soul and the body. Clearly, when the body dies, the soul has no need of a mind in a state of pure consciousness. But most of us reincarnate again and again. So, since the purpose of the mind is to serve the soul in its functioning in the 3D, what happens to the mind between lives? This is actually a broader question than might meet the eye. The fact is that the body and mind and everything else in the physical and metaphysical don't actually exist as we believe. Everything exists and seems to persist because we keep creating it and re-creating it moment to moment. Living is an act of will. We are alive because we will our body to live over and over, moment by moment. We can will our bodies to die, dying is also an act of will. Souls create, and we create energy and then will the use of the energy. A body is energy which is congealed into matter, frozen into density. In death, that energy is withdrawn by the soul and redirected, perhaps reabsorbed. The mind is a less densely constructed energy, it is not in solid form, though it can be experienced as feeling somewhat solid when we feel energy blockages or persistent unwanted thoughts. But the mind is also created and re-created each moment. So when the body dies, I think that since the mind is not needed when the soul is not incarnated, it is still re-created moment to moment, but may be somewhat dormant and not a focus until needed again. ❤ ❤️
I have seen a few ghosts in my life and as much as I didn’t want to believe it, because it terrified me, this makes sense
My man. I too have seen them, seen dark-spirits-entities at least 30 times in my life, 90% of the time I got attacked, 2 of the times, I got almost destroyed.
Personally, I always wanted to believe it, to me, the existence of supernatural spiritual entities is a good thing. Even due now, I don’t believe it, I know they exists.
Mankind has seen and experienced them for at least 5000 years, all religion and all spiritual teachings recognise their existence, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad, all meet them, Ramana Maharshi rightly said that they are as real as you are, all Real Gurus and Sadhgurus have seen them and can whenever they want contact them, and so on and so on.
Only materialist-atheism denies them, since they must to protect their deluded paradigm, but fortunately, it’s an absolute falsehood, as made clear in God-Consciousness.
#fuckdemonssmokedemonseveryday
do you care to share an encounter? There is interest here
Me or topic starter?
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@@versoturner5777When I was a child, for a while I lived in a huge old house in the countryside. It wasn't one of those nicely done up houses, it was missing some windows and was freezing cold, especially in the winter. Here in the UK it's not uncommon to live in a house that is a few centuries old, as was the case with me. When I was about 5 or 6, I would feel a small child come and cuddle up to me in bed sometimes. There were no other children in the house this could be. I wasn't really scared of that but I was scared in general in that house. When I was older (18 years old), my boyfriend at the times house was haunted, which the whole family knew about apparently but neglected to tell me because they didn't want to scare me. So I found out by myself and it was awful because this ghost really didn't like me for some reason. It used to do things like stomp up and down the stairs if ever I was alone and one night tried to pull me out of bed. It regularly used to sit at the end of people's beds. It felt like you were being watched all the time. It would crash paintings and ornaments to the floor. It absolutely terrified me and I hated being in that house. What scared me the most was that I couldn't understand why beings in the afterlife hated me. I wondered at that age if I was going to hell when I die. Years went by and I became an atheist and did anything I could to find reasonable explanations for the things I experienced because I didn't want it to be true.
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Hi Rupert, ever since I started watching your videos, I was able to tap so much into my consciousness and discover that I am Awareness and it all felt so good, but now my mind seems to be clamping down really hard, and it's like there's an entity in my head that's constantly over-reactive and causing all sorts of clenching or tightness in my body, it makes me unable to burp or fart or poop easily, it's amplifying the pain I feel from all sorts of things and feelings, and it's affecting my life really much. When I try to talk to this entity, I always get the same answers, it wants me to suffer, and the reason it is here is because of all the consciousness work that I did, and that it is killing it, so it wants me to stop, but I have already stopped for so long, almost weeks, but this entity is still here, and it's just making life harder and harder by the day, I'm like having constipation and bloating just from the fact that mind is so tight that it won't let me release, and my entire life is now centered around finding ways to burp and fart and poop. No matter how hard I try to make peace or be friends with it, it just stays silent, and gives me no answer, and whenever I even think about anything that's slightly triggering to it, like abiding in God consciousness, or meditating, or simply being jolted by sudden movements, and noises, it just goes absolutely nuts, and clenches up completely, making the top of my head feel like there's a clamp on it. I really need help on this, have you or anyone here encountered such a phenomenon before? And what would you guys recommend I do to put an end to this? Is there a way to come to peaceful terms with it? A way for it to just let go if I would stop the meditations? Do I just give it time to calm down? It seems worse and worse each day. Do I keep on practicing meditation regardless of how painful it is and maybe it will be gone forever? But it just feels worse and worse the more I do it, and it always comes back, and it feels wrong to be forcing things like this. I feel like my life is really going to end if I don't find any solutions, anyone who has any idea what's going on and what I should be doing, I would be so grateful to hear from you!
May be a bad spirit ?
The entity is your ego. By resisting it you will strengthen it. It is confused and, as far as it is concerned, the only way out of its confusion is death. The only way to diminish its power is to be non-judgmentally aware of it. That in itself is a meditation, and it's actually more important than what is usually thought of as meditation!
@@christopherbond5130 Krishnamurti taught that there are ways to have a life out of the conflict ( confusion ), without the death ( most people only perceive that on the time of death ). Confusion is born when the observer identify itself as different from what is being observed. The right way, should be observe everything without any judgement. Thought ( the intellect ) is responsible for this division, it creates images and we live hiding ourselves behind these images. This is ultimately, a trick of the ego, who needs constant security and reassurance. The way out would be through meditation, but not these common tricks people call meditation. The real meditation is the deep dive and discovery of the self, and ultimately, getting rid of all conditioning, seeking, beliefs, instituted religions, and see "what is", never trying to reach or project what or how it should be. 👍🙏
The ego doesn't wanna let go of your mind
Let go of the ego.. it will be still and peace will follow.. it requires time thou.. Fear not beautiful soul
Do you fear death? Is it, even intellectually, something you think you might "transcend" if only you can practice correctly or "learn" something you haven't yet? I'm not being "funny" but I don't think you have discovered that "You" are "Awareness". These are just words. I have found some Vajrayana Dzogchen texts useful in aligning "intellect" with "feeling" (although it is my path and, of course, may be next to useless for anyone else even if it is actually useful for me and I'm not deluding myself - which in some way I probably am). One of the clearest expositions (I have found) is The Nature of Mind; The Dzogchen Instructions of Aro Yeshe Jungne by Patrul Rinpoche if you're interested. Its intriguing and I at least found it very calming to read. And have you ruled out any actual physical causes for your suffering this way, like diet or underlying stress? Anyway, whatever happens I hope you feel better!
Physiologically, your thoughts are electrical interactions in your brain. Those travel at the speed of light. At the speed of light, time is infinite (mathematically). Therefore you're thoughts are infinite. It's just a matter of where they spend eternity.
When we die, will people we've interacted with know about all the good and bad things we've done to them?
The Body and mind die.
Your soul including the memory imprint is indestructible and while you become one with the universe you are aware.
If this is correct, it is wonderful.
Excellent and precise explanation of the fundamental principle behind karma and reincarnation
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To concern yourself about such things is merely a subtle form of suffering: You cannot "know" until you die (if then, of course), no matter what your experience "tells" you while you are in this bardo, as some call it.
I can't listen to this enough 👍🙏🙏
The body does not disappear because it is matter (it breaks into its components). It is its shape that disappears. All the deads are still here, in some way.
Yes, the law of conservation of matter.
OMG, thank you so much. Very useful. Again, thank you so much.
Just a turn of chapter for the mind. Got a long way to go.
Reminded me a little bit like The collective Aberham Hicks and Bashar talking about Source Energy Consciousness
I am confused because many times he mentioned the scientific method to re-enforce his ideas, yet now he is talking about the mind is an Angel, nobody knows what happens after we die, he is just stating some hypotheses but makes it sounds as his theory is the absolute truth, please explain clearly
Read "Easy Death" by Adi Da Samraj, it doesn't get any better. Or "The Tibetian Book of the Dead" with the introduction by Jung... Superb!! And covers this question in detail...
Is it not more important to inquire or observe the nature of the mind from moment to moment while living than inquiring about what will happen to it 'after' death?
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It is the nature of the mind to inquire what will happen to it.
@@AuroCords It is the nature of the chattering monkey mind, which is not the same thing referred to as such.
No one can say for sure what happens to your consciousness when you die, however, some mediums, the authentic ones, can actually contact past lives, spirits. Spirits are so hard to contact and they never seem to give much away other than they’re there. The spirits haven’t got access to the physical body and brain to speak or think etc but through energy they can move objects etc, it’s whether they retain any elements of the personal self that I wonder, but somehow I think not.
The body is a lens for conciousness
WOW! This is deep!!
Thank you!
When your physical body died, the mind take on a body of the soul because your soul IS YOUR MIND. And finally when your soul body died, you take on the SPIRITUAL body which complete your journey.
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that seems like a solution to the Reverse inference problem if you look at it this way. When the brain is seen by an "other" from a dual perspective. Do (I) see it correctly?
What a great question she asked. Would be so satisfying to get a concrete answer for it but wonder if there really is any 🙂
Short answer YES
We're not the body. Never were, never will be.
We are non material conscious selves.
New light in Vasanas ❤
Only the ego dies along with the body
You can be aware of the shortcomings of America without hating it. It's called being thoughtful and reflective.
but but what is mind? can anyone find his mind? where the mind is located and what is it made of? is there such a thing as mind? I understand consciousness but the word "mind" means nothing to me.
It's just an appearance. It's an appearance of localised awareness
If the mind were to look into a mirror it would see the world.
The mind is real. It’s immaterial and not part of the brain, lol the brain-belief-paradigm has been debunked in God-Consciousness, rest assured.
Not being able to see something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, it still exists, even due you cannot see it.
Become conscious of the mind.
1:56- there is no thing more to the experience of "you" than the "thought" of the "experience" of "you".
there is not a happening. there is knowledge.
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I like being localized lol, can’t imagine otherwise.
But they are discernable to our five senses , just most people have no clue they can do this , usually to distracted with life and unaware .
In the dream of life, we're not the dreamer.
To let go is to allow.
I wouldn't confuse him with Krishnamurti.
The implication here it that mind has parts. I suggest you look into this statement and try to find out if that is true or false Do not just to rely on trite belief or blind faith.
i think that when you die your physical body dies but does life goes on after we die ? we won’t know the answer until we die ourselves which will happen to every living thing alive today
A human being like you would be fascinated if "died" under the influence of Amanita pantherina (panther cap). This is no joke. If eaten a lot, a human being experiences death as is. All the questions get answered. The death is real for the person who ate these mushrooms so taking them knowing that is a heroic act. I myself doubt if i ever have courage to experience this Amanita death ever again. When you are there, there are no doubts you're gone forever.
Load of old cobblers
Insofar as an actor leaves the stage after completing his/her role, the Self takes it's leave of the body upon release. See Shiva Nataraja -- "Whirly-gig of time/space" -- for the formative metaphor. From manifestation to release, is the Etheron Arrow of Time.
Consider one's body as a personal, private Facetime or zoom session. If the device (your body) should fail (die), all that is lost is its connection to the experiential session while it was active. I don't think angels are involved at any level. They were ever a component of the social media of the cosmos.
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS you demand proof from me yet provide none of your own. You're desperately looking for a purpose in something in a sub-optimal rules/experience intellect could never process. The "no one dies" proposition denies the birth/death cycle which then implies no one needs to be created as we're all statically here anyway. Logically, without a creation, who could create the Cosmos - and who created the creator, who created the creator of the creator, etc. That makes as much sense as the Jehovah's Witness rapture concept. That everyone who's died will return. But there is not the space for them all on Earth. Stop looking for a banal explanation of the infinite. And let's not start with quantum theory. What makes you think you are ever awake, you need to study some real philosophy, not snake oil.
@SUBJECTIVE FOCUS Let's abandon the snake oil and return to the original question as I'm chasing your straw man here.
The question was 'When the body does, does the mind die too?"
Let's look at this. Starve the brain of oxygen and it dies. Fire a bullet through it, and it dies. Develop Dementia and it dies. So at that level, when the body dies, the mind dies. It no longer exists, it decays and rots away. Amen.
This is easy to prove as you simply perform an autopsy. The body can function without the higher cerebral stem/cortex (brain death) but the brain cannot survive without the body. But was the question about the mind metaphysically, for example, the "soul"?
Now we make a jump from the physical (that which can be proven to exist (matter based) and metaphysical (that which can be suggested but not proven) Metaphysic is a branch of philosophy.
What the author of this channel is presenting is his philosophical take on the metaphysical realm. He has no access to a hidden truth because the realm has no truth. Go read Kant's Rationalism versus Empiricism to learn more. It is neither true nor false by definition as we can only prove what is matter based. Everything else is theoretical. The presenter is merely giving you a lesson written by Kant. And there, I have to leave it. plato.stanford.edu/entries/rationalism-empiricism/
In this description…..
Mind = Soul
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There were no neurologists at Blake's time. The development of neuroimaging means we see with increasing breadth and depth the activity of the mind. I would suggest there's no reason to believe that memory/mind survives the dissolution/disintegration of the brain and body. If we take Rupert and Bernardo's premise that the body is what the mind looks like from an exterior point of view as true, then the appearance of its disintegration would correspond to the disintegration of that mind or 'whirlpool'.
Yes. How would he explain aspects of the mind that have distinct neural correlates? Take memory, for example, which seems to have a critical role in creating one's sense of a continuous embodied self-even if we take that self to be "illusory" in a deeper sense. There doesn't seem to be a mechanism explaining how that condition would be preserved after death, and his talk of angels seems to be grasping at straws.
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Grasping at straws is the domain of Neuroscience....@@KrunchymanTheBold
Thank you so much ☺️❤️
Her mind terrifies me.
This does not make sense at all. What generates the mind if the body is gone? You are talking about the soul? How is this non-dualistic? And... in any case. How do you now this? Only imagination just like all religions.
Even if you were to assume that body generates mind, that doesn’t mean the mind will disappear with the body. Just like heat doesn’t disappear if the stove is removed.
@@youssefalaoui4286 You remove the stove and the heat dissipates for sure. No doubt about it
@@ananddilvar Analogies are not meant to be broken down in a technical sense…..But even so, the heat will not dissipate in a closed system.
@@youssefalaoui4286 So, death is a closed system.
@@ananddilvar What I meant to say is that heat is a different kind of energy than the stove and because of that, different rules apply to heat.
Luckily, Rupert agrees with me.
It seems like the universe expanding (de-localizing) is the sensory trace of consciousness self-localizing.
When the earths life is over will spirit survive ie when the sun destroys earth ?
I like to think if it as a clear (fish) tank full of water with ripples and whirlpools occurring in the water. The water views itself through its whirlpools
Why (to what advantage) and how is using my senses - that with which I perceive reality - to think about these senses at all valuable?
Through the wonder of the video, I cannot experience Rupert's body, for he is not really there. I can't smell him, the internet disconnects him depending upon whether I've paid my bill or not, cannot touch him with my fingers, his is a blurry image and small, his volume is moderated etc. I became crazy while listening to the Symphony of 1000 (G. Mahler) while the mother of a friend was showing me pictures of her vacation in Greece her turning down the volume so that she was able to speak to me. I'm very thankful. What were al these people doing in my apartment? Is there enough in the refrigerator to feed them?
The monopoly figure of a car is unimportant when the game is over. The player only "identifies" itself with it during the game. Thankfully, the game ends and one may continue to be. Only Disney and "Toy Story" figures live outside of the game. What happens to one's lap when standing-up?
There is a mind or conciousness that has many levels or dimensions. The higher dimensions can visit the lower dimensions but the lower dimensions can only be aware of the higher levels. A 3d mapped mind cannot totaly understand a 5th or 6th dimension. The lowest part of the mind was designed to start working upwards with the help of the higher dimensional thought.
Unfortunately the lower part of the mind became distracted by its self awareness and seemed to seperate into the thought of self and wholeness. This part of the mind had a higher part which the Torah or bible describes as Eve for simplicity of understanding. Eve passes thought to the symbolic Adam who thinks and works out what Eve gave as an Ideas. Adam has lots of thought connections and the more connections, the more energy that is stored in those connections. Adam dwells on an Ideas and his mind thinks about it. He daydreams and uses characters and scenarios to work out the answers to Eves questions. The thoughts are us. Adam keeps the answers in his memory and uses them as a tool for questions in the future.
Information feeds back and forth and was done to enable learning. The projected thought developed its own awareness. Thats us again. It worked out that it could ask the mind for energy and information and that the mind would give the projected thought what it needed to accomplish its thought mission. It also became aware that it could gather other unaware projected thought to help it assume power of the mind. It dictated to those around and the mind. By this point, the higher Eve is looking inwardly but is being starved of energy as the lower mind starts to dominate where the energy to manifest thought actually goes. Adam just goes along with the proceedings.
So we are the seperated projected thought of a collective mind we cannot see which also has a higher mind that thinks both inwardly and outwardly. To overcome this problem, the higher dimensions forced through what we call a soul. It attaches to the mind and projected body and this reconnects the lower mind to the higher dimensions. When the body wears out, the soul continues to develope its consciousness in the dimensions we cannot see. Adam allows his projected thought to extend its thought by having children. This renewed thought hold the memory of the past and can move forward in thought. To prove this, look at where your thought comes from. You cannot. Thus, to see your thought you project your thought outwardly. Its what you see. The garden of thought that we sowed the seed in and then look to see what happens.
The garden of Eden was safe but we have nightmares that manifest. Simply because we are not aware of the truth. We dont see it.
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Einstein said that trying to understand how the universe works is like a baby that tries to understand and gain knowledge from books in different languages or something like that it's impossible to get accurate answers of how Life-death connection works
And how do you know this? How can we know this?
Unfortunately, we can't. The only way to do that is by direct experience of death itself. We can only speculate and there are so many perspectives on what death is. Nobody has died and returned to tell us about it. Even NDEs are suspect because they never go past the point of no return. The mind can weave all kinds of worlds as per dreams.
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Even if absolutely 'Nothing' existed, something still exists - the Information of Nothingness. When we think of Nothing, we have an Idea or Awareness of what Nothing is - That is what still exists, the Awareness/Consciousness. That which simultaneously exists within All Things, and Outside of All Things. That which can not be seen directly, but can be seen in everything simultaneously.
It emanates ALL, permeates ALL, and is ALL.
It is You, and it is Me.
It is your Mom and Dad, Dog and Cat.
It is the Stone on the Ground and the Rain in the Sky while also being the Sky and Ground themselves.
It is the Bumblebee and the Garden, and it is the Meal you ate for dinner. It is even the act of eating.
It is the Book you are reading, and the Video you are watching.
It is the Rage inside the Beast, and it is the Beast itself.
It is Sadness, and it is Laughter.
It is all the gods, devils, and demons.
It is God and the Devil.
It is all the Prophets from every Story ever told from around the World, while also being the World, and Stories themselves.
It is All things Bad and Good.
It is Hate, and it is Love.
It is All Points of All Spectrums, while also being the Spectrum itself.
It is literally Everything and Nothing simultaneously. It is a Paradox.
Can i use your words as lyrics for my song?
@Katrina Cerise if you can credit me somehow I wouldn't mind.
@@OfTheVoid Yes of corse, thank you! What do i write, OfTheVoid?
@@katrinacerise6221 ÆtherSpawn works :)
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"He may look like an idiot and sound like an idiot, but don't let that fool you, he really is an idiot." - Groucho Marx
The answer is no, your identity does not die and this is because at death consciousness does not return to an infinite state. Consciousness continues to create your soul with its identity in duality, it’s just that without the constraints of the body it is massively more expanded eg., remembers other lives etc.
This is why people who experience NDEs report a sense of oneness, because that massive expansion or integration from the perspective of the embodied person they were is an expansion towards oneness, but it’s not complete. It’s a relative oneness, but still duality in which there is still separation eg., they see loved ones and there are still choices and concepts etc.
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If this was strictly come dancing it would get a 12
I didn’t understand the answer. Can someone simplify?
The simple answer is that our mind, meaning our consciousness, has never and will never "die" the way the physical body dies. When the physical body dies, we - the "Self" or soul that animates the physical body - live on in another, more subtle body. This is called by some, the "astral body," composed of light and energy. We then live in the "astral world" for a karmically determined period of time before our desires and physical karma draw us back into another physical vehicle for another earthly incarnation.
A great saint named Swami Sri Yukteswar describes the astral world and body in modern language and great detail in a chapter called, "The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar" in the book, "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda. Hope this helps. God bless your journey.
@@SelfRealization3880 I have a question......... can I compare the soul so" me" and the brain being a computer with which I work? and at the time of death the computer so the brain dies but me the soul I keep all the information contained in the brain (computer )???? I ask you this question because having had a body exit experience not an NDE just a body exit for a very short time. being outside my body that I could see a few meters on the ground I had the possibility to think, to analyze, intelligently.............. for example now I write this text so me the soul I think and I use my brain to order my hands to write this text i am right ??? thank you for your opinion. 🕉
@@aum-shanti Sure, that's one way to think about it. But, of course, more important than busying ourselves over getting the right intellectual "concept" of the truth, is experiencing that concept for ourselves, through deep meditation.
@@SelfRealization3880 thank you for your answer i have been practicing the vipassana meditation technique for years now i did a 10 day retreat in kathmandu 15 years ago and life gives me with my out of body experience concrete proof that we do not are not this marvelous machine the human body. but I still have a lot of things to discover, for example where do we go after death? for me this question in a sense is not very important the important thing is to know who I really am or to be more precise who I am not yet thank you and long life to you on planet earth. 🙏🕉
Sure. We are not the body or the contents of the mind. We are not even the thinker. We are the knower of the body and the knower of the thoughts. (However it is also true that there is no difference between the knowing and the things known. It is one and the same.)
When he talks about "de-localization" what he means is that the specific "things known" which refer to the body and the thoughts - they disappear when we die. But since we were not ever those objects (in the grammatical sense - as in the object of our perception), the knower remains the same as always. It's just that the patterns that happened where your body and mind existed will no longer happen. There will no longer be such a thing to "focus on" by the knowing. It will "disperse" in a manner of speaking. But of course it was never really local to begin with - everything is known. It's just a manner of speaking.
The rest of the talk about different ways of existing as non-physical "local" entities in my opinion is the less important stuff, because for the vast vast majority of us, it is speculation and fodder for our imaginations. It is good enough to accept that such things are possible.
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The truth is that we don't know what happens to the mind when we die. It is no longer conscious and we don't know where it is stored. The person is the mind not the body. The body is just a vessel to interact with the physical world. The mind is created by God who gives it a body then breathes his Spirit into it and it becomes alive. Once the body dies the Spirit goes back to God but we don't know where he keeps the mind/consciousness. Remember when Jesus returns the mind/consciousness is given a new body and is made alive again to meet Jesus. We lay where we fell. If you die on the highway your mind remains there. If you die in hospital your mind remains there. The body that is taken to the cemetery or cremated is empty, the body's mind/consciousness remained somewhere else where it died. We don't know in what state God keeps the mind when the body dies. But the truth is that the mind is not dead but it's not conscious either. There are three parts to a human being, his body, his mind and the Spirit of God. Imagine a computer, it has all its hardware, it's brain is the CPU hidden somewhere which controls everything. But it still can't work without power/electricity. Your mind is the CPU and the electricity is the Spirit of God.
Who knows..
There's no personal but there is unique because all other localizations or entities are never the same? That would be quite the opposite to what Vaishnavas believe in. They believe in unique ever existing souls.
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I do not identify as the meatsuit in the mirror (that's the Soul Chariot) :-)
Rupert, I like your videos, but what you're saying in this video has nothing to do with non-duality and Advaita Vedanta.
There is only the Self.( The Everything.) Mind, soul and afterlife are dreams like this so called" life ". they are not in contradiction with non dual message.
Anybody can clearly understand the analyzetion of mind given by Lord Buddha. That he says the Mind is a system building up from the moment of birth to the moment of death. No one has a Mind before the moment of birth. Mind acts its own. No one can control. Mind is only build up due to external stimuli (perceptions) through five faculties from the moment of birth. Mind is the store you keep and kept all the memories. No time is taken to store or recall or remind any memory. That is what is call incident of “Akalika”(no time taken) by Gothama Buddha. In a man all the functions regulated and controlled by “Vingnana”. Mind is a one small part of “Vingnana”. Vingnana is already there before you are born. It is the operating system of the human. But mind will start from the moment of birth and everything will vanish at the moment of death. That is life according to the “Word of Buddha”. Nothing remain after the death. Word of Buddha is not in any book so far written. It is only in the people's mind. Word of Buddha is for each and every mankind.
What evidence does he have for this opinion? It sounds nice but...
When the brain dies the show is over, what is so hard about this.
The show is not generated by the brain.
Rigor mortis
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@@Aed-Adlan no but it records what is as best it can
show me your evidence that consciousness coalesced from the infinite into an individual mind. i reject that premise.
leafs on tree...
Yes. The answer is yes
I'll take a guess and say yes it does. There's no reason we should go anywhere after death. The most logical explanation will be that it will be much like before our birth, we'll not exist, so nothing ! Anything else to me is just wishful thinking
When the body dies, nobody knows what happens to consciousness. Period. Pretending to know otherwise without stating that what you're saying is just an opinion is pretentious.
Are you even alive to begin with? No-self.
The emptiness inside the jar. If the jar shatters (body), then there is no longer any space for emptiness, hence it's all gone.
I don't agree with the Robert gentleman.
Yes.. this is why when you are drunk or under anesthesia you don't have any thoughts or you are someone else... Everything is the body sorry.
Chop your leg off and ask it to talk back to you
❤.... What's.. Mind..?
Content of mind... Thoughts..?
Thoughts.. You thoughts... About...
Dead... Past... Unborn
Future...
When you are in...present moment...
You are one with mother nature...
I... Ego... Most.. Fundamental aspect of
Mind...
Dissolve.. Ego...
Go to the... Source...
Aatman and Brahman..
Indivisible... Whole..
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Nice tan tho
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😂, bla bla bla, when you die, you are gone, the light is turned off in your head. Do I feel better after this philosophing?
Maybe 😁.
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