A Whistleblower Surgeon Speaks Out with Dr. Eithan Haim | Episode 151

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @widerlenspod
    @widerlenspod  10 месяцев назад +7

    Hi everyone please remember to like and subscribe! And check out other ways to support our show over at our Substack: www.widerlenspod.com Every week we release additional bonus content for our premium subscribers. Plus there are some great conversations happening on our Open Discussion posts. See you there!

  • @Soleil5291
    @Soleil5291 10 месяцев назад +62

    This channel needs way more views. Such great work.

    • @Knuck_Knucks
      @Knuck_Knucks 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yes! Lets all be sure to watch it again! 🐿

  • @BR-cy8rp
    @BR-cy8rp 10 месяцев назад +16

    Thank you Stella, Sasha, and Dr. Haim! There are many of us here to support your work! ❤

  • @marieparker3822
    @marieparker3822 10 месяцев назад +18

    What a wonderful person! He and his wife really restore my faith in human nature.😄

    • @Dr.EithanHaim
      @Dr.EithanHaim 10 месяцев назад +5

      Thank you for listening. It really means a lot!

  • @juliehathaway3898
    @juliehathaway3898 10 месяцев назад +11

    Thank you, Eithan, for standing up for children.

  • @janmariolle
    @janmariolle 10 месяцев назад +30

    ❤❤❤Excellent interview with this principled, courageous man. Thank you!

  • @wenkeadam362
    @wenkeadam362 10 месяцев назад +29

    Another of your brilliant conversations. Thank you so much. There is hope and brave people out there after all!

  • @TheNesbittExperience
    @TheNesbittExperience 10 месяцев назад +25

    When Sasha said, “better than human,” it reminded me of Aldous Huxleys book, “A Brave New World.” We are definitely teetering between Orwell and Huxley’s ideas at this very moment.

    • @brandicaudill8539
      @brandicaudill8539 4 месяца назад

      Was that the book about a robot?

    • @jjayneartworkx
      @jjayneartworkx 4 месяца назад +1

      I've been calling it...
      Brave New 1984 👍

    • @jjayneartworkx
      @jjayneartworkx 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@brandicaudill8539 both are utopian/dystopia novels
      The non institutionalized is called "the savage." Test tube babies and regular "soma" pill popping. 🧐

  • @hnybee113
    @hnybee113 10 месяцев назад +35

    As a behavioral therapist this brings me sadness, anger and hope.

    • @Dr.EithanHaim
      @Dr.EithanHaim 10 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you for watching. I hope the hope can overcome the sadness and anger.

  • @wobblyarrow84
    @wobblyarrow84 10 месяцев назад +22

    59:34 it’s a miscalculation not just for surgeon’s but for every profession. We need to all be highlighting the harms of this ideology.

  • @aidananstey9848
    @aidananstey9848 10 месяцев назад +13

    I saw this guy on the Dad Saves America podcast, we need more Doctors like him.

  • @florenceellis214
    @florenceellis214 9 месяцев назад +12

    Mutilating healthy young bodies for profit is the lowest of low.
    I feel like the tide is turning now.
    There is hope with more medical staff speak out.
    Thank you!

    • @loganjames3789
      @loganjames3789 8 месяцев назад

      Investigate routine non-therapeutic circumcision of healthy boys in the US. This has been routine for more than a century. First Do No Harm is ironic if you're one of those males.

  • @SailaSobriquet
    @SailaSobriquet 6 месяцев назад +7

    My sincere thanks to Stella and Sasha for featuring Dr. Haim, and extending to him an opportunity to share his experiences and travails with us. In my humble estimation, he is a moral giant, and the kind of fine example western society so desperately needs. I also have a deep appreciation for the both of you as well. Blessings to all of you.

  • @joane24
    @joane24 10 месяцев назад +9

    _"Medicine isn't driven by science, it's driven by MORALITY."_ Bravo👏! _"Driven by a basic acknowledgement of human dignity."_ _"The goal of our profession is the human in front of us."_ There's nothing more to add here, these words are golden! I come from family of doctors, many of them have already passed away (the older generations). They would be proud hearing this! It brings back hope for the medical profession.
    Sure, science and development is obviously important, but the _fundament_ is morality and human dignity. 👏

  • @w.f.4287
    @w.f.4287 10 месяцев назад +7

    What an incredibly courageous man! Not all heros wear capes!

  • @robertmarshall2502
    @robertmarshall2502 10 месяцев назад +19

    This was such an important conversation from a channel with incredible content.
    I do think the analogy with street drugs is valid. Saying puberty blockers are reversible feels a bit like saying heroin or fentanyl is reversible.
    Except no one is prescribing those to children in order to prevent them from going through puberty for aesthetic "benefits" which will then make society accept them better in their delusion. Which is of course nonsense.
    It's more like "heroin chic" for autistic kids with mental health issues. And then you remove vital organs.
    I regularly have this overwhelming feeling that we're living in a dystopian scifi film. I've listened to the proponents of this madness say with their own words they're in favour of "transitioning" non-verbal autistic children who have been proven to not be able to distinguish between male and female bodies (in terms of mental capacity).
    Why are these people going unpunished while the whistleblowers get hounded out of jobs?

    • @Dr.EithanHaim
      @Dr.EithanHaim 10 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for picking that up. I think it's such an appropriate comparison for this situation.

    • @robertmarshall2502
      @robertmarshall2502 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Dr.EithanHaim Please continue speaking out because I think average people listening to you will be shocked and immediately reviled, their intuition will be, this is wrong.
      They will also have to confront the fact that you're in a professional position where what you are saying can't easily be handwaved as "right-wing" or "bigoted" or invented etc.
      For viewers of this channel, while shocking, this story is not unexpected, we've seen similar stories about the Tavistock although arguably less extreme. I hope you manage to get this story into the mainstream (unfortunately I feel like that will be hard on left-leaning channels, I say this as someone "homeless left")so that cowardly politicians are forced to deal with the fact this isn't a left/right issue or a pro v anti-trans issues it is just simply wrong to do these surgeries and "treatments".
      The major issue I have in general is getting people to look at what is actually happening. It sometimes feels impossible to get someone defending males in women's spaces to look at crime stats. It sometimes feels impossible to get someone defending affirmative care to look at the flawed original study or the systematic reviews of evidence. It regularly feels impossible to get anyone chanting mantras about trans women or trans kids to think at all.
      I think your story might cut through all that because you're effectively a highly credible witness to a crime against children, someone knowledgeable about a field who can quickly respond to questions and yet not an elite or an academic far away from what is happening on the ground. I wish you the best of luck with everything, I've seen you speak twice in long form interviews and both times you came across as sincere, caring, clear, able to say when you can't answer a question or have limited knowledge and with a great deal of moral integrity at all times. Sorry, I wrote too much. Hope you have a great year, it will be tough but I think it will be worth it.

  • @siobhannoble8545
    @siobhannoble8545 10 месяцев назад +51

    Do doctors still have to swear an oath to do no harm? If so, a lot of them have broken that oath and should face the consequences of doing so.

    • @marieparker3822
      @marieparker3822 10 месяцев назад +12

      At the Nuremberg Trials in 1947, seven doctors were hanged for performing medical and surgical procedures on people without their *informed* consent.

    • @siobhannoble8545
      @siobhannoble8545 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@marieparker3822 I was thinking more along the lines of having their licenses revoked...

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 10 месяцев назад +5

      "Oaths" and personal integrity are founded upon a moral foundation. This is meaningless in a world where profit is the point of everything and "health" is just a marketplace.
      Morality and bodily integrity are such old fashioned ideas.

    • @roni1384
      @roni1384 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@AndyJarman Doctors are held to very high ethical standards. They are just as likely to receive discipline or loss of license over ethics as they are over incompetence. Maybe even more so because one often leads to the other.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 10 месяцев назад +1

      That's not the issue. It's the lack of informed consent and the fact that these were not consenting adults. The argument is that children can't give informed consent because they aren't legal adults and they don't understand the consequences of choosing to transition.
      If the issue was "do no harm" there is an argument that cosmetic surgery should be banned. I don't agree with that. I think if an adult of sound mind wants to have cosmetic work they have the right to do so as long as they give informed consent.
      Also the cosmetic surgeons are in the best position to make determinations on whether or not they should do those cosmetic surgery on adults. Not the state. And I'm not in favor of banning cosmetic surgery outright.

  • @nybergjm
    @nybergjm 6 месяцев назад +2

    God bless this wonderful man and his wife. As a psychological intern nearing the end of my doctoral program, I think I speak for many of us in the healing profession who are sick and tired of the subtle threats and stifling atmosphere of self-censorship when it comes to this topic.

  • @lizzysmith5365
    @lizzysmith5365 10 месяцев назад +9

    Great podcast, this information needs to be brought to light!

  • @careyparis5460
    @careyparis5460 10 месяцев назад +6

    Wow! amazing interview! Thanks so much to you both and to Dr Haim for speaking out. . Hopefully more doctors will follow his lead…

  • @JulesGeezLouise
    @JulesGeezLouise 10 месяцев назад +7

    I really enjoyed this episode! Great to hear from a surgeon.

  • @Joanna-zh9oy
    @Joanna-zh9oy 10 месяцев назад +6

    42:16 The discussion here is why surgeons would perform these procedures on children. Ethan speaks about the ideological intent, and the aim to create something new, to play god. This whole interview is very enlightening, this part especially so for me.

    • @monicabhagwan5594
      @monicabhagwan5594 10 месяцев назад +1

      Their egos. They are competitive and want to be known for being able to do crazy procedures and on younger patients.

    • @Dr.EithanHaim
      @Dr.EithanHaim 10 месяцев назад

      The competition part of it is truly a key factor with this issue. It's a trait that is inherent in the surgeon but something we must temper with prudence. @@monicabhagwan5594

  • @paulschultz2751
    @paulschultz2751 10 месяцев назад +12

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-
    Because I was not a socialist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-
    Because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
    Because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.

  • @monicabhagwan5594
    @monicabhagwan5594 10 месяцев назад +7

    I have spoken with someone with intimate professional knowledge of surgery. They described surgeons are swarming to train in gender surgery because it is so lucrative and growing. They are giddy with excitement at developing even more radical and innovative procedures. They compete with each other for pushing the envelope. They take pictures of procedures without consent so they can brag to each other. They volunteer, yes volunteer, to do surgeries so they can get practice and experiment. They do not hold themselves accountable.

  • @cestmoi4532
    @cestmoi4532 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you so much for your work! ❤

  • @themeaningofgender
    @themeaningofgender 10 месяцев назад +4

    I am 17 minutes in, I have been following these issues for years, and this story is shocking. back to the video...

  • @rose-hope
    @rose-hope Месяц назад

    Thanks as always ladies. It’s always eye opening. I share your RUclipss constantly! Matthias Desmet is an author who wrote The Psychology of Totalitarianism …his interview with Del Bigtree following COVID lockdowns was stellar.

  • @paulschultz2751
    @paulschultz2751 10 месяцев назад +5

    We have been here before. We are doing it again now.

  • @petiadavis5122
    @petiadavis5122 7 месяцев назад +2

    This doctor is a real hero

  • @brandicaudill8539
    @brandicaudill8539 4 месяца назад

    Thank you ladies for this channel.

  • @michaelmayer-o3s
    @michaelmayer-o3s 9 месяцев назад +2

    That is so true about the street drug analogy. There is a study that 80% of kids will grow out of it by 18 and an additional 15% by age 25. Yet 0% grow out of it once they start puberty blockers!

  • @kimwiser445
    @kimwiser445 4 месяца назад +2

    I hope the hospital is sued and the CEO is investigated. The AG in Texas needs to intervene if possible to help him.

  • @llkoolbean4935
    @llkoolbean4935 10 месяцев назад +16

    There will be so many future lawsuits

  • @user-jp4sc7iy6p
    @user-jp4sc7iy6p 10 месяцев назад +15

    His discussion of morality in relation to his role as a doctor is my takeaway. Why is this not a focus anymore? I remember when medical ethics were discussed years ago-are there any medical ethicists still practicing?

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 10 месяцев назад +1

      Perhaps it is due to the funding model regarding the educational institutions and hospitals and where the funding for those places are coming from?

    • @bogdiworksV2
      @bogdiworksV2 4 месяца назад

      @Gingerblaze i think you're correct. Medicine is seen as an industry and hospitals are run for profit. We need to change that. Same for universities.

  • @beppygibson
    @beppygibson 10 месяцев назад +7

    Another good episode. This podcast is one of the essential resources for those trying to find out about youth gender care in the United States. This doctor sounds like a highly ethical person.
    Am just wondering, did he have to appear on Laura Ingraham's show? 😜

    • @Primalxbeast
      @Primalxbeast 10 месяцев назад +2

      Liberal shows won't platform gender critical beliefs, so getting the info out there sometimes makes for strange bedfellows.

    • @kentompkins7957
      @kentompkins7957 10 месяцев назад +1

      He seems like a quite conservative guy, could be he was happy to be there.

  • @debs5896
    @debs5896 10 месяцев назад +8

    Higher % narcissism in surgeons...(spoken as a RN).

  • @laurahaynes8558
    @laurahaynes8558 10 месяцев назад +3

    Minute 44 so powerful!

  • @S2023.
    @S2023. 4 месяца назад +1

    The hospital allowed remote access which is as well a HIPAA violation. The hospital can say that the records may not tell the whole story and the minors may have been tapering off the medications.

  • @snorgonofborkkad
    @snorgonofborkkad 10 месяцев назад +8

    If S&S were Ninja Turtles, Sasha would be Leonardo and Stella would be Michelangelo. 🤙🍕Cowabunga dude!🛹🤘

  • @HimmelsDaemon
    @HimmelsDaemon 10 месяцев назад +7

    Frankly, they forgot a long long time ago. Maybe, maybe not, after everyone forgot the meaning of the term and at some point it became nearly a badge of mandatory authority like everything else. "Doctors" haven't been the proper concept of medical doctors for several decades at best, likely the century or more.
    With that, and more related to the topic at hand with medicine, is the steady contortion of "harm" among all other terms; individualist help and aid becoming "harm," that the institutionalized industries book of gospel is the answer always ("one-size fits all"), so on.
    ---
    _For me, this is repeated vindication from being considered crazy because all that was never possible, not possible for "doctors" to not be doctors, on and on. ... I'd of preferred to be crazy..._

  • @Gingerblaze
    @Gingerblaze 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for the reccomendation re:part three of Hannah Arnts essay on totalitarianism

    • @Dr.EithanHaim
      @Dr.EithanHaim 10 месяцев назад +1

      Your mind will be blown. I expect you to reply to this comment once you finish reading and tell me how right I was lol. Enjoy the read though.

  • @karakara-zx5ur
    @karakara-zx5ur 7 месяцев назад

    What an amazing guy

  • @helenffrench6934
    @helenffrench6934 10 месяцев назад

    What is the author named at the end - Part 3 ? Have googled and cannot find her..... Hanna Eron?

    • @widerlenspod
      @widerlenspod  10 месяцев назад

      Hannah Arendt

    • @Dr.EithanHaim
      @Dr.EithanHaim 10 месяцев назад +2

      Hannah Arendt - The Origin of Totalitarianism. You can skip ahead to part 3. The first two parts are kind of snoozers/overly academic.

    • @CPoynter
      @CPoynter 7 месяцев назад +1

      Arendt.

  • @JEUNGURA
    @JEUNGURA 6 месяцев назад +3

    Here after Dr. Haim was federally indicted by Crooked Joe.

  • @Toastie19
    @Toastie19 22 дня назад

    I’m honestly surprised that not many surgeons speak up about this

  • @lechenaultia5863
    @lechenaultia5863 9 месяцев назад +1

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 heroes❤

  • @kimwiser445
    @kimwiser445 4 месяца назад +1

    Money money money!!

  • @anarchist_parable
    @anarchist_parable 9 месяцев назад +2

    Everyone here, you aren't alone. We are dealing with something that is clearly mad and evil. I don't know what other word to use, I'm not religious but bringing this type of harm to children is evil.

  • @kathystephen
    @kathystephen 10 месяцев назад +2

    Sorry to make this trite aside, but Sasha's hair is very Jane Austen 👍
    Seriously I think this huge medical scandal is enabled by a hatred of these youngsters. Otherwise I can't understand why these operations would take place

  • @janebennetto5655
    @janebennetto5655 10 месяцев назад

    ❤🇬🇧

  • @berthavazquez4168
    @berthavazquez4168 6 месяцев назад

    I love Stella and Sasha. And their conversations are wonderful. But the fact this conversation started with “the education institution started making kids dumber” was a total turn-off. As a 33-year veteran of the science classroom, I find this comment incredibly unfair. What does that even mean? Teaching through and after the pandemic was very challenging. As a teacher, I suppose I should get used to being blamed for all of society’s ills. Still, great, important conversation. Stella and Sasha, you guys are awesome.

  • @bridgetteparker7719
    @bridgetteparker7719 10 месяцев назад +10

    This coversation has veered into such a conservative view of medicine. This kind of morality imposed on medicine is exactly what is being used to justify taking away a woman's right to choose. I strongly suspect that this man would have denied my hysterectomy on principle despite it being my body.

    • @Klonen75
      @Klonen75 10 месяцев назад +8

      I assume by the way you write that your hysterectomy wasn't nessessary but something you wanted done.
      Yes you're right. You have no right to have people assisting you in bodily harm or modification that is not nessessary. For instance you can't walk into a hospital and tell them to cut off your arm for no reason.
      Does this create gray areas? Yes it does. Just look at the laws about tattoos. Some places you can get facial tattoos. Some you can't. Also the question of assisted suicide that puts people with severe disabilites in a problem.

    • @freddieoblivion6122
      @freddieoblivion6122 10 месяцев назад

      You (like many other young ppl) have been programmed to think conservative = evil. You're "right to choose" is just a right to deny responsibility. You should watch Empty Love - give lauren southern's new documentary a chance. You need both sides of the argument to evaluate. Freedom is not just facilitating degeneracy.

    • @bridgetteparker7719
      @bridgetteparker7719 10 месяцев назад +4

      So, all cosmetic surgery should be illegal? I did have a medical reason for uterine surgery. But, I could have opted for another attempt to fix the problem instead of removing it altogether. I also could have also opted to continue living with pain, anemia, and excessive bleeding. As long as I didn't try to have children, it wasn't life threatening -- just miserable.

    • @robertmarshall2502
      @robertmarshall2502 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@bridgetteparker7719​Can you explain which part of the conversation led you to think he would prevent you from having a hysterectomy? I'm not sure which part you characterize as "conservative" or what you mean in a medical context?
      I find the way hysterectomies are offered to young women in the gender clinics to be completely wreckless. Obviously yours is a very different situation. But presumably you were told about a number of drawbacks and made a decision that was more informed than the young trans community?
      I'm not the person you were speaking to but I find it very difficult to justify any cosmetic surgery. It's clear to me that it's a net negative.

    • @Klonen75
      @Klonen75 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@bridgetteparker7719 Actually a lot of cosmetic surgery is illegal. I thought about mentioning that and apparantly I should have.
      As all medical procedures cosmetic surgery has to be approved. A lot don't get approved. A lot of countries has a limit as how big ones breasts can be. Also there can be demands of psychic evaluation along with some procedures.
      It sounds like you had a legitimate reason for the surgery. Why do you suspect the interviewee to be against helping you with your problem?

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 10 месяцев назад +1

    I don't understand. Medecine can intervene upon sex, but not gender. Why are you so confused ?

  • @skylesco5397
    @skylesco5397 6 месяцев назад

    Why is that lady shouting? So annoying

  • @Jack-y1n8t
    @Jack-y1n8t 10 месяцев назад +1

    Haim shared the private medical records of children with a conservative thinktank, he should be prosecuted.

    • @jcimsn8464
      @jcimsn8464 10 месяцев назад +3

      It doesn't mean he didn't redact all identifying information about the patients.

    • @Jack-y1n8t
      @Jack-y1n8t 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jcimsn8464He had the legal right to view the private medical records of children and then redact those records?

  • @John-tr5hn
    @John-tr5hn 10 месяцев назад +7

    OK, bro, enough with the histrionics. Two people from HHS showed up at your door on your graduation. You're a big boy, and you're a surgeon, so tell them you won't speak to them without a lawyer and go along with your day. They weren't goons. FBI agents would have been goons. Texas Rangers would have been goons. The local sheriffs or police would be goons. And even if they were, as your lawyer wife knows oh so well, they don't have the right to make you speak with them.
    Worst case scenario, you win a five- or six-figure settlement or judgment against the federal government for whistleblower intimidation. Big deal.
    If it were the Soviet Union, you would have been disappeared, and your family might be too.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah he's defintely overreacting and he is too political.
      He should just focus on the issue at hand, which was the medical transition of children and ending the practice.
      Instead, he sounds like a conspiracy fanatic and like he has a political agenda. I'm sick of the conservative and liberal buzz words (ie leftist, woke, MAGA etc) being used in these stories.
      It's why you can't get bipartisan support to end child transition and protect women's rights in the U.S....making the issue political instead of scientific and fact-based.

    • @gomerspile5091
      @gomerspile5091 10 месяцев назад +6

      It is goonish behaviour. It is clear intimidation showing up so quickly like that.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 10 месяцев назад +4

      @gomerspile5091 no it's not. It's typical for an investigation. He didn't have to answer if he didn't want to or spoken to his lawyer.
      It sounds like someone at his own hospital or possibly his own patient filed a complaint against him for misconduct. The government generally has no choice but to investigate complaints like that.
      I'm not saying he did something wrong, but I do think he's overreacting to the investigation.

    • @pupppt
      @pupppt 10 месяцев назад +2

      How many times did he say "on the day of my graduation"?

    • @llkoolbean4935
      @llkoolbean4935 10 месяцев назад +1

      Bad argument. Still doesn't make it right.

  • @duotronic6451
    @duotronic6451 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hosts have a bad habit of making the show about them selves instead of focusing in the guest. 😢😢😢

  • @detransjoy
    @detransjoy 6 месяцев назад +1

    We at @detransjoy send ❤