I just purchased a NCF Whisper Momma (open end). I saw the NCF video on how to adjust the flame, but did not grasp the idea of when to adjust the flame. Any advice?
How do u think it would work for draft size shoes? 1/2"X1 1/4" stock say size 7-8 shoes...I was thinking of getting the whisper daddy 3 burner just to have the extra room for the bigger shoes to be able to close the door.
Thanks for posting the video, I know absolutely ZERO things about blacksmithing and forges but starting to build a shop to get away from the world. Might try out some things.
Thanks for the comment! It's a lot of fun working with hot steel. There are a lot of good blacksmiths on RUclips and they can get you going in the right direction. It's very rewarding to take a chunk of scrap steel and turn it into something useful or ornamental. Good luck!
@@SteeveeDan Thanks man, any steel you recommend starting out with? Or basic tools? I have a lot of handtools and power tools luckily because I do a lot of my own car work and woodworking stuff.
I went to farrier school and the forge and anvil were the first things we worked with. I think to get started a few good tongs are essential, hot steel flying out of cheap tongs is not cool., no pun intended! a good 2 lb rounding hammer will do a lot of different shaping. And to start with, good ole cheap rebar. Practicing making it flat and symmetrical, shape it into square stock, make circles on the horn, make figure 8's and so on. Have fun!
I just bought the daddy version . I am thinking of coating the inside with a refractory cement like Satanite. It is supposed to keep the silacaeous dust from the kaowool down. Also, out of curiosity you might put a carbon monoxide meter next to it if you use it indoors . Thanks for the video.Frank
Thanks for the comment Frank. I don't use a co meter, my garage has an open ceiling and I have a fan in the vent to draw out all the baddies. Good idea about covering the wool, I'd be interested in how that works.
you need a bit more "spit n'polish" on your delivery. Also, when you fired up the forge, the roar from the burners is so loud that you cannot be heard nor understood beyond the lighting. I am seeing more than a few very serious safety issues with your setup. You are too close to the wall behind the forge. Anymore firings of the forge and you can kiss that compound bow goodbye. The forge puts out a significant amount of heat through the backdoor and the front. Heat radiates out by quite a reach beyond the forge. Your back wall is well within the combustion range from the heat generated by the forge. 1 of 2 things or both will happen to the compound bow because it is directly behind the forge. The bow will melt, or the string will liquify and catch fire, then snap. Either way, since you are using the forge at your location per your verbal description, the integrity of the compound bow is in serious question. I saw in your video footage that several of the arrows have warped from the heat of the back-flow heat from the forge as it outgases during use. There is enough fire to create and generate combustion to your shop wall from the forge. I know. I owned a Whisper Momma Forge exactly like this one, so I know exactly what kind of heat comes out of this unit that you are using. Not to put too fine a point on this, but safety first sir. You are using a combustable gas inside an enclosed garage or shop from the look of it. The gas forges produces and expels huge amounts of Co-1 and Co-2 emissions. I don't see much in the way of adequate ventilation. And from what I've seen, your shop is very small. I would not be surprised if you are stopping and exiting your shop with excruciating headaches. That is because you are experiencing "Carbon Monoxide Poisoning" from the forge. I am a HUGE believer in safety first, foremost and always. Seeing wood boards laying within close proximity to your forge, and an off road vehicle within the same proximity scares the hell out of me. Both serious fire dangers, and 2 potentially explosive situations... the forge and the ORV. Please consider addressing the most serious of these safety issues. Is it worth the risk to ignore them? It only takes one small mistake with a hot piece of steel to wreck and destroy everything... It is of course, your choice, your decision. I did not watch the full video because the safety issues I see scares the hell out of me. I will not recommend it to anyone because of the reasons explained.
Thank you Karen, you are a real piece of work. Lol there's a lot wrong with you, one of the first things is your personality. It is not congruent with dealing with human beings. You are probably very good at engineering and at things not having to do with dealing with other human beings. Secondly, you made the error of not listing all of your complaints about the video in association with some sort of numbering system. You could have done Roman numerals or Arabic or even letters A through f. Your third error, is that you are very pretentious and it really comes across in your communication style. I am not a safety first kind of guy, because if you are safety first, things don't get done.
Thanks, the best forge review I've seen. I liked that you showed the temperature of the sides and doors.
Thanks for the comment!
I just finished rebuilding my 30 year old whisper mama. It has been a great forge and has done a lot with only minor repairs up until now.
That's great! Love mine but may be switching to coal now that I have a larger shop and the space to accommodate one. Best luck.
good to know, I bought one a couple days ago without watching any reviews. Thank you and good work on the temps on the surface.
Thank you, best of luck!
I just purchased a NCF Whisper Momma (open end). I saw the NCF video on how to adjust the flame, but did not grasp the idea of when to adjust the flame. Any advice?
You're going to love that forge! I adjusted mine until the flame was all blue/white. Yellow and red means it needs to be adjusted.
Forgot to mention, when the flame hits the bottom firebrick, it will turn yellow. You want to adjust the burner flame to blue/white.
I'm within driving distance to NC Tool. I need to get over there to get an anvil and forge.
Love the forge for sure, the anvil, a little love/hate.
Just got an NC Tool Knife Makers forge because of your video. Thank you!
Glad the video helped. So far I've been happy with mine. Good luck!
What PSI does this thing forge weld at?
Only used it for welding small stuff but 10 - 15 gets it done for me.
How do u think it would work for draft size shoes? 1/2"X1 1/4" stock say size 7-8 shoes...I was thinking of getting the whisper daddy 3 burner just to have the extra room for the bigger shoes to be able to close the door.
You'd be better off with the bigger forge. In the Whisper Momma a 0 size shoe fits with the door closed, things get tight after that.
SteeveeDan thought so...thank u
Thanks for posting the video, I know absolutely ZERO things about blacksmithing and forges but starting to build a shop to get away from the world. Might try out some things.
Thanks for the comment! It's a lot of fun working with hot steel. There are a lot of good blacksmiths on RUclips and they can get you going in the right direction. It's very rewarding to take a chunk of scrap steel and turn it into something useful or ornamental. Good luck!
@@SteeveeDan Thanks man, any steel you recommend starting out with? Or basic tools? I have a lot of handtools and power tools luckily because I do a lot of my own car work and woodworking stuff.
I went to farrier school and the forge and anvil were the first things we worked with. I think to get started a few good tongs are essential, hot steel flying out of cheap tongs is not cool., no pun intended! a good 2 lb rounding hammer will do a lot of different shaping. And to start with, good ole cheap rebar. Practicing making it flat and symmetrical, shape it into square stock, make circles on the horn, make figure 8's and so on. Have fun!
@@SteeveeDan Love the joke lol, Ok I'll get started on doing some research and thank you very much for all your help!
how long does a 20 lb tank of propane last?
To be honest, I never really paid attention but I do know it's more efficient then my last forge which was a homemade deal I bought off ebay.
Where did you buy yours?
I bought it here, they have a $10.00 flat shipping fee..www.well-shod.com/departments/nc-tool-co-forges-%7CFO%7CFO1%7CFO1NCF.html
Just picked one up. What psi do you run?
I usually run 11 to 15 psi. That seems to work well for a variety of metals in my forge.
Thanks! Did you use any Rigidizer? The one i got was my friends and he just rebuilt it.
No Rigidizer. I'm not sure what type of blanket they use when they build it, but it's pretty good stuff.
Thank you sir!
Dont let time stop you from running your mouth.
I just bought the daddy version . I am thinking of coating the inside with a refractory cement like Satanite. It is supposed to keep the silacaeous dust from the kaowool down. Also, out of curiosity you might put a carbon monoxide meter next to it if you use it indoors . Thanks for the video.Frank
Thanks for the comment Frank. I don't use a co meter, my garage has an open ceiling and I have a fan in the vent to draw out all the baddies. Good idea about covering the wool, I'd be interested in how that works.
Running bare wool is very very dangerous.
That is the equivalent of breathing asbestos.
Your lungs cannot expel ceramic fibers.
650 is unreasonable
you need a bit more "spit n'polish" on your delivery. Also, when you fired up the forge, the roar from the burners is so loud that you cannot be heard nor understood beyond the lighting.
I am seeing more than a few very serious safety issues with your setup. You are too close to the wall behind the forge. Anymore firings of the forge and you can kiss that compound bow goodbye. The forge puts out a significant amount of heat through the backdoor and the front. Heat radiates out by quite a reach beyond the forge. Your back wall is well within the combustion range from the heat generated by the forge. 1 of 2 things or both will happen to the compound bow because it is directly behind the forge. The bow will melt, or the string will liquify and catch fire, then snap. Either way, since you are using the forge at your location per your verbal description, the integrity of the compound bow is in serious question. I saw in your video footage that several of the arrows have warped from the heat of the back-flow heat from the forge as it outgases during use.
There is enough fire to create and generate combustion to your shop wall from the forge. I know. I owned a Whisper Momma Forge exactly like this one, so I know exactly what kind of heat comes out of this unit that you are using. Not to put too fine a point on this, but safety first sir. You are using a combustable gas inside an enclosed garage or shop from the look of it. The gas forges produces and expels huge amounts of Co-1 and Co-2 emissions. I don't see much in the way of adequate ventilation. And from what I've seen, your shop is very small. I would not be surprised if you are stopping and exiting your shop with excruciating headaches. That is because you are experiencing "Carbon Monoxide Poisoning" from the forge.
I am a HUGE believer in safety first, foremost and always. Seeing wood boards laying within close proximity to your forge, and an off road vehicle within the same proximity scares the hell out of me. Both serious fire dangers, and 2 potentially explosive situations... the forge and the ORV. Please consider addressing the most serious of these safety issues. Is it worth the risk to ignore them? It only takes one small mistake with a hot piece of steel to wreck and destroy everything... It is of course, your choice, your decision. I did not watch the full video because the safety issues I see scares the hell out of me. I will not recommend it to anyone because of the reasons explained.
I'm at a loss for words, very rare occurrence for me!
Thank you Karen, you are a real piece of work. Lol there's a lot wrong with you, one of the first things is your personality. It is not congruent with dealing with human beings. You are probably very good at engineering and at things not having to do with dealing with other human beings. Secondly, you made the error of not listing all of your complaints about the video in association with some sort of numbering system. You could have done Roman numerals or Arabic or even letters A through f. Your third error, is that you are very pretentious and it really comes across in your communication style. I am not a safety first kind of guy, because if you are safety first, things don't get done.
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