Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T vs BF Goodrich KO2 All-Terrain T/A
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
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In this video:
0:00 Intro
0:24 Design of Tires
3:33 On Road Performance (Wet and Dry)
5:39 Off Road Performance
7:06 Mud Traction
7:47 Snow Traction
Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT vs BFGoodrich KO2 | The Ultimate All-Terrain Tire Duel! 🚗💨
Join us as we breakdown the intricate patterns and unparalleled performances of two heavyweights in the tire world: the complex Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT and the tried-and-true BFGoodrich KO2.
🔍 What We Uncovered:
The Tread Tale: From the Baja's 4 unique blocks and 3 circumferential channels to the KO2's web of grooves, get the nitty-gritty on each tire's design.
Shoulder Showdown: Experience the asymmetric tread design of the Baja AT and weigh it against the aggressive shoulder blocks of the BFG KO2.
Sidewall Sagas: Delve deep into the chunky lugs of the Baja and compare them with KO2's serrated blocks.
Stone Ejector Extravaganza: Find out which tire's ejectors not only repel stones but also boost on-road grip.
Wet Roads and Rugged Trails: Discover which tire shines on slick roads and which dominates in muddy or snowy terrains.
🚩 Whether you're gearing up for an off-road adventure or a smooth city drive, our detailed comparison has got you covered. Grasp the subtleties, enhance your tire IQ, and make an informed choice!
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I have owned both and the Baja Boss is WAY BETTER in ice and snow! Actually the Mickeys are by far the best winter tire I've ever owned on a truck!
Yes, they are pretty good on snow.
Have you had them long enough to get a sense of tread wear?
@@Eastahtata not really. I have 15 -16,000 kms on them and they seem to wear evenly and look new to the naked eye. I have not measured them.
@@Eastahtata I have 50k miles on mine. 275/55r20 10 ply. I'm down to 13/32 from 18/32. Rotated every 6k. Psi at 40. 7000 pound denali from the extra weight added and I tow often as well.
@@jwatt95 That's really good tread life actually
The baja boss are the best tires ive ever owned and ive owned the ko2, duratracs, ridge grapplers, and toyo at3’s.
Glad you've found the Baja Boss to be the best. It's always interesting to hear comparisons, especially with such a diverse experience with different brands.
I’ve never been a fanboy of anything until the Baja Boss AT after 33k miles on and off road. Mud, snow, rock, and asphalt…It’s been outstanding compared to the decent KO2’s on my other JLUR. I suspect it’s going to do well at the beach too.
If they’d offer more C load 35” tall, 12” or narrower widths….😁👍🏼
Yea, tell me about it.
Which is better in the rain?
About 1 month ago I put on a set of General Grabbers ATX (265/70/R16). So far I love them. They are based off of the BFG KO2’s. Bonus, they’re 3peak rated and stud-able as well. I also installed an Eaton TrueTrac. Let’s just say I’m looking forward to winter this year in my 2000 GMC Yukon. 😤💪🏾
Yes, it's a good overall tire. We would be putting it here soon.
Phenomenal video, thank you!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
I've had the older bfg all terrain t/a. They were fine. Jack of all trades. Master of none. Didn't do deep mud. Just rain, snow and dry. Not sure about the new ones. The side wall looks fine but honestly the Mickey Thompson looks like it would do great in snow and rain. I have the general grabber a/t now. They don't handle well and seem to need balancing more often. Won't but them again. People really say that they like the falken wildpeak but I'd say I'd try the Mickey's 👍
You are right on track. Please do share our content if you enjoyed it, It would mean a lot.
Awesome review. But please, please, please, ditch the background music. Background music of any kind only detracts your fine videos. But love your in depth analysis. Best on RUclips
Thank you, and sure.
I have the KO2's and am switching over to Baja Boss. The KO2's are like driving on ski's in wet weather!
Have you tried the Baja's in rain yet?
Good call!
⛷️ ski’s have turned better than any tire
@@JoseMunoz-xp3bz they do phenomenal in everything you throw at them. I'm severely impressed by them. They do pick up rock a lot so if you have a gravel driveway be ready for that
Baja boss will definitely be my next set of tires. Currently have KO2s and don't feel safe driving in wet/rain conditions.
Baja Boss A/T has better wet traction, so it's a good switch.
Funny you say that, my mate refuse to drive my ute with bf ko2 in wet weather. Has terrible grip
Agree ko2 is scary n heavy rain
I have a GMC Sierra 2016 crew cab 4wd 5.3. I replaced the Michelin Defender with the M/T’s and really like the tire. All the traction I need and not much noise at all. I dropped 2 to 3 mpg but that was to be expected for the heavier tire and aggressive tread. Wear seems to be good after 10,000 miles. So far I would put another set of these on when I need more tires.
It's great to hear that you're satisfied with the M/T tires you replaced on your GMC Sierra. Having the traction you need without excessive noise is definitely a plus. While a slight drop in fuel efficiency is expected with heavier and more aggressive tread tires, it's good to know that wear has been good after 10,000 miles. Based on your positive experience, it sounds like the M/T tires are a strong contender for your future tire replacement needs.
This is a good comparison. I had the General Grabber ATx on my 4Runner and they were ok. As others have said they are very similar in tread pattern to the KO2's. I bought the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT and after 6000 miles am very happy with them. I thought going up from 265 C to larger 285 E rated tires they would be noisy and ride rougher. Haven't had them in much snow yet, but in rain and off-road they have been great. Even in deep mud they clean well and don't clog up like the Generals did. I highly recommend them!
Glad you liked it. And thanks for sharing.
Thinking about the Baja Boss AT for my new 4Runner. I'm staying with the 265 size as well. Do you have the XL load range or the E? I wasn't aware that they came in a C.
I have the 285/70/17 E rated Baja Boss. I would probably go with C or lower on the 4Runner. They are heavy and don't flex too well even at 20 Psi. I don't like going much less than that. Don't want to lose a bead. I have had them in snow now, they were great!
They don’t make them in a C. Only SL and Load Range E for the LT
@@redeemed2517they only come in SL and loand range E
I’ve owned both on a 2008 Jeep Wrangler. My only complaint is the Baja’s threw rocks that hit the body more than the BFG’s. BUT!, I did feel the Baja’s gripped the road better in wet weather (heavy rain, snow, etc). Both did well in mud.
I’d definitely recommend either. Aesthetically, I prefer the Baja A/T’s. You can’t go wrong with either!!!! Both are great tires!
Thank you for sharing your detailed experiences with both the Baja and BFG tires on your 2008 Jeep Wrangler. It's always valuable to have feedback from users who have tested the products in real-world conditions. Your balanced view, highlighting both the pros and cons of each tire, provides an invaluable perspective for others in the community contemplating their next purchase. It's great to hear that you were satisfied with both, and your aesthetic preference for the Baja A/T's adds a nice personal touch to your feedback.
Which ones were louder on the highway?
thanks really informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Yes snow is very short for me , two months basically and the KO2s were good but not great , the fact i have 4wd means most tres would be good BUT i found the KO2s did not like mud and it just packed on which wasnt cool and probably becaise the tight design doesnt throw the mud off .
I bought the Baja Boss but havent put them on yet but when i looked at the two side by side the Boss looked like a football shoe compared to a hiking shoe .
Yes KO2's interlocking pattern is bad for mud.
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Glad you enjoyed it
Could you possibly compare the nitto nomad grappler tire to the falken wildpeak at trail tire?
Sure, I can't see why not.
We go trough a lot of tyres on the farms I work at. Baja Boss blew side walls while under load, had punctures in stubble while KO2 keeps going. On asphalt in wet KO2 is bad. Overall KO2 is still my pick.
Thanks for sharing, glad you landed on a better tire.
I have to agree. Overall, I loved my Bajas on my Raptor, and now have KO2s on my 4Runner. I think I'd like to go back to the Baja's, because they did have better general traction. But for a work tire, it's hard to beat the BFG sidewall ruggedness. That counts for a lot.
Does the siping go all the way down deep into the lug on the Baja ? Looks like it doesn’t go very deep into the lug. Thoughts would be as the tires wears you loose all that siping unless I’m wrong?
Its not the same siping pattern all the way down, but yes they are full depth.
I’ve had KO2’s on my GX460 for a few years now. I have no issues in the wet whatsoever. Also done quite a few snow trails and they are amazing. I think KO2’s are just starting to get dated. Apparently the KO3’s have fixed the wet issues that people were having. Can’t wait to see a review of them.
@overlandPNWGX
It's awesome to hear about your positive experiences with the KO2s on your GX460, especially in wet and snowy conditions. The upcoming KO3s are indeed generating interest, especially with improvements in wet performance. Reviews will definitely shed more light on how they compare to their predecessors.
You haven’t dealt with heavy rain then if I’m being honest, I’ve had 2 pairs of ko2s on my 2012 ram 1500 and I tow with it almost daily, I didn’t even have a clue the Baja boss at existed lol but the ko2s while towing a light trailer between 4-7k lbs it would spin so much just getting off a red light
I have ran KO twos for 40,000 miles and do not feel safe in the rain. Have had Baja balls for a little over 20,000 miles and love it so much better in the wet weather and will never go back to Keio twos after having these.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Chris! It's valuable to hear firsthand accounts like yours. Tire preferences can vary based on individual needs, and it sounds like Baja balls work better for you in wet conditions. Stay safe on the roads!
i was leaning toward Falken AT3W or Toyo AT3, Im really interested in this, especially since its 3PMS rated and now that its owned by goodyear...
Gald it helped.
Toyos are great. I have them and they are much better than the k02s.
I have owned the Falkens and they were great on my escape but when I put them on my 21 Ram 3500 they felt sloppy in the steering. I will be going with the Baja Boss next.
I had Falken Wildpeak at3s in my 2016 Ram 1500 and I loved them. Quiet, smooth ride and didn’t even have to engage 4x4 in snow most of the time.
I got a set of 295/70r18 Baja Boss for my 2022 Ram 2500. They are not balancing. I bought them from a tire company here in Las Vegas when I called them to tell them that it was wiggling they told me that these tires are notorious for that. Well, I said thanks for telling me that I wish I would’ve gone with the BFG.
I'm really sorry to hear about the balancing issues you're facing with the Baja Boss tires on your 2022 Ram 2500. It's disappointing to hear that the tire company didn't inform you about this known issue beforehand. I hope they can provide a solution or a suitable alternative for you. If you decide to switch to BFG, it would be great to hear about your experiences with them. We appreciate your feedback as it helps other community members in making informed decisions.
@@comparethetire I spoke to a Mickey Thompson rep 09/05/2023. I told him that the company I bought the tires from here in Las Vegas laughed at me. I explained everything. He instructed me to go to Discount Tire. He authorized a road force balance. I went the same day and they figured out that the two rear tires are bad. Mickey Thompson authorized them to order me two new tires. They should be in today or tomorrow. It looks like they stand by their product.
Anybody have experience in towing with the Baja Boss? I pull a 7000-9000lb utility trailer 5 days a week in NH for work in my Ram 2500. Right now I’m using General Grabber A/T been drastically happier over the stock Firestone A/T it came with but over the winter felt like I could go with something a bit more but not much more. Went to the Grabber over the KO for price reasons and similar appeal. Wondering if the Baja Boss is worth the jump this fall for the next round
When considering tires for towing heavy loads, it's important to prioritize factors such as load capacity, traction, and durability. While the Baja Boss tires are known for their off-road performance, it's advisable to research tires specifically designed for towing applications and consult with experts or experienced truck owners to find the best fit for your needs.
Enjoyed the video, but noticed 1 thing you kept mentioning was the sipes. KO2s sipes go all the way down to the bare tire whereas the Boss only goes down a fraction. This would be lost after 10K miles or so on the Boss, then you lose all that siping.
They are now coming in with full depth.
I've been running ko2 6 years now to my 4 runner they are good tires but winter been notice not handling well .
Im planing to try this baja tires anybodys good experience about baja boss.thanks.
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If most of your driving is on roads, the K02s make sense. It's about what you would expect, since the Baja Boss is designed for more off road use.
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I do like 95% on road and about 5% off road. What I'm most concerned about is how they perform in rain/wet roads. Seeing all kinds of comments about how K02's are great tires except they suck in the rain.
Baja boss a/t vs nitro ridge grappler?
Coming soon, need support from people like you. Thanks for watching.
Awesome! Your videos have been great while researching potential replacement tires for the stock ones that came with my Tacoma. Thank you!
Have these on my duramax and tow trailers nothing over 9000# they are by far the best traction wet and dry and was able to test them on South texas beaches with 32" trailer. I'm at 25,000 miles and only thing I'm worried about is them not making it to 50k. ROTATE EVERY 7,500 MILES
Thanks for sharing
Update: I'm at 36,000 Mike's and there about to hit half tread these tires are amazing still quiet and still great traction. Wish the had full 35 12.5 R18 in load e or f. I'm running 295 75 R18 which are 34 11 18's
I don’t hydroplane like I did with the K02s. The snow is night and day. I am not a fan of KO2 snow performance. The Baja’s are amazing in the snow, especially in the deep stuff.
You said it.
During this year on social media I’ve seen several people MT with blown and or (exploded) tyres.
What do you think caused it?
@@comparethetire different reasons amongst the several ones I saw 1. No reason at all and the side wall cracks. 2. While deflated on rough track the side wall exploded. Don’t think I’ll be using MT. Certainly the owners weren’t impressed after what they paid.
@@biglap.australia Sidewalls cracking has to do with the internal construction, and all the famous MTs coming in right now have 3 ply construction, which is also available on some ATs or R/Ts like the Mickey Thompson over here, BFG KO2, Nitto Ridge Grappler....Recon Grappler
Falken Wildpeak AT3w has 2 ply but also has 2 extra layers of bead on sidewalls... Hope this helps.
Are you saying Mickey's AT had 2 before which would explain the sidewall failures? @@comparethetire
Cooper Discover S/T maxx E-rated are hella solid
It's great to hear positive feedback about the Cooper Discover S/T maxx (with E load index). Yes these tires can take on pretty much anything you throw their way.
I've had both. Baja Boss is better in wet/snow conditions. Much better.
Yea they are actually one of the best in extreme A/T categroy.
I also own mickey Thompsons ATs 35x12.50r17s aswell and they are a superior tire to the K02 by far especially in deep mud and deep snow.
The MTs are even better I would assume however, mine are snowflake rated, not sure about MTs tho
Thanks for sharing
Problem I had with the KO2 was they started cupping and then it was over.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the KO2 tires. Cupping can indeed be a frustrating issue and it's helpful to know how these tires have performed for you. Have you considered any specific alternatives to the KO2 for your next set?
KO2’s are beaten in every category by many newer designs. They have balancing issues, don’t wear very well, mediocre dry/off-road traction, and garbage wet traction
Yes, the tire can really improve its wet traction.
Cooper owns mickey Thompson
yes, and they got owned by Goodyear
Baja Boss Over K02
When it comes to snow, definitely.
Hoing with the Baja AT, its a complete mismatch! 😂
@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531, I see you are favoring the Baja AT in this comparison! It's a solid choice with a reputation for strong performance. But let's remember, the BFG KO2 also has a strong following for its own reasons, and it might be the better choice for others depending on their specific needs.
If the Baja Boss didn't cost 30%-40% more I'd consider them.
100 more for each tire? Lowest ive found for ko2 is 250 for 285/70/r17 and 290ish for baja boss
@MartyMcdumpsterfire: The cost is definitely a factor to consider. It's all about finding the right balance for your needs and budget.
So if you're a Wal-Mart parking lot off roader buy BFG. 😎
Another way to put it, I guess.
Ko2 need to go away... worst AT ever..... wear out fast and get stuck in wet grass....
Yea, ko2s don't do so good in wet.
@@comparethetire keep up the good work!
I like how my last questions and comments got IGNORED...
This video isn't at ALL legit. It's all talk about "this vs that"
So, back to my ignored tough question...
Why not do a tire vs another tire TEST on everything??
We get a lot of comments, sorry you felt that way. We can't do a tire vs another tire (real world test), as there are a lot of variables in sizes, like, load ratings, speed ratings, tread depth and so on, for example, Baja Boss AT above 2.5 inches (section width) doesn't even qualify for 3pmsfr, so it won't make sense comparing that to someone that does.
Thank you for your time.
@@comparethetire you may get a lot of comments BUT... I read, read, read, read MORE. You sure respond to other newer comments BUT... Not mine, totally makes sense to me... 😃
Next, huh? I mean, you actually could if you'd do it 👏
@@DefMusic79 RUclips pages aint catered to anyone bud 😂 Just be grateful anyone responds to you and get off your feelings 🤧
Not even a good comparison, Should be the M.T. with a Cooper or Maxxis tires...
@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531, you bring up an interesting point about comparing M.T. tires with Cooper or Maxxis. Each tire brand and type does indeed offer unique features and strengths, and comparisons can definitely depend on specific needs and driving conditions. But for this comparison, we're looking at BFG KO2 and Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T. Both of these are very capable options.