I laughed along with you and enjoyed each minute..! The highlight was remembering how we used to use the word Broccoli for other things, like telling the tow truck driver we were stuck out in the Broccoli! Thank you for recollecting good times.
@ no, had some two weeks ago, but only for two days and it melted away. Right now temperatures around 5-10 degrees Celsius. When I was a child in the 1970‘ mostly around the 6th December we had enough snow to take out the sleigh 🛷 for the first time.
How's she goin'? Another save by Bruce!!! The old Murray was destined for the scrap heap until you happened by!! Bruce you are ever mower's best friend!! I'm late getting to the party but I enjoyed the video. Take 'er easy!!
@@BrucesShop Just a fan who likes hanging out in the garage 🙂. I watch Donyboy73, Chickanic and your channel. I live and grew up in Edmonton... old school values and I love fixing stuff. I was surprised to see a mower video pop up in December. Shouldn't you and the Mrs. be in Mexico or somewhere warm?
Great video Mr Bruce. I have the same type of work table you have. I added a bit bigger table top. I have 3 of those Honda mowers. I added a little longer and wider. Getting cold where I live. Not into working in the garage when it gets below 30 degrees. Keep up the good work.
Bruce good to see you posting videos again, hope all is well. Thanks to Mrs. Pender for letting you know about this orphaned Murray mower. It’s hard to beat the B&S flat head classic engines, they can be neglected and still be brought back to life. I see you have at least one snowblower in your shop, is that a future video? Please have good holidays and safe travels to your winter retreat in Mexico.
I have a very similar mower that I bought new in 1993. It is branded "White". Same engine. I didn't know they were still making those engines in 2013. I never had a problem with it. No fuel stabilizers, never drained the tank, and there were long periods (years) when I didn't use it. The side-chute bag is useless, however, and I recently bought a rear-bagger because on my new property I need to vacuum up leaves.
That sound very good running I like those mowers a lot thank you for the video and if we don't see another video from you to after Christmas Merry Christmas add a Happy New Years
That’s a great score, I love it it’s even my favourite colour, never seen that type of filler neither have I seen a diaphragm in that condition either I guess it’s just been left lying to deteriorate? Handlebar mounts look kinda robust for a low end mower, sorry I’m just daft about those Briggs & Stratton things I’m practically drooling here 😂
I bought a mower just like this one over 20 years ago and it was an awesome mower and of course it had a briggs on it and just before I moved I mowed almost 3 acres with it due to the fact I sold my riding mower and only had that mower and it ran flawlessly I wish I could have kept it but I sold it when I moved to an apt 15 years ago. Oh by the way the mower I had didn't have that weird gas cap either it was a regular screw on cap. Oh the mower I had over 20 years ago was a briggs classic and it had a screw on gas cap.
Bruce: Never seen a tank cap like that. Sorry you ran afoul of the made in USA sticker. The fuel cap no doubt designed by the same person at our EPA who designed the fuel canisters that you can't empty. Did not know of the emulsion tube in that classic Briggs carb. Thanks for all the tips, tricks, and mistakes, which we all learn from. Narragansett Bay
I finally abandoned my old 20" Murray with its 3.5 briggs classic last year that I bought new back in 2000. The motor is still okay, but the deck is just absolutely shot, lol. The bolt holes for the wheels had rusted out years ago and I bolted aluminum flat stock to its sides and drilled new bolt holes for the non-adjustable wheels. Last year the front and back of the deck began to disappear and at the end of the season I parked it behind my garage. I only ever used it for trim work in places my riding mower wouldn't get. Not being able to find a similar model, I instead went out and bought a Stihl weed trimmer and now use it instead, though I did remove its stock bump feed head and put a European style automatic feed head on it. Me and bump heads just never got along, lol.
@@BrucesShop You could say that, lol. When I first bought it I didn't have so much as a shed to keep it in, so kept it under the back deck its first ten years. The auto shutoff cable broke in that time, so forever after that I just shut it off the old fashioned way, grounding out the spark plug with a screwdriver. The back flap disappeared sometime around 2012. But I always maintained it well. Went through 3 diaphragm gasket sets in that time, 3 oiled sponge filters and changed the plug and oil on it every season. One year I did ask for a set of points for it and was told it didn't have any, lol. I had no idea small engines had also went to electronic ignition. Sharpened the blades on a bench grinder and balanced them on a nail in the wall. After it's second set of plastic wheels' hubs broke out, the third set it got steel wheels with ball bearings. They were about an inch small in diameter, so I just used the bottom bolt holes to keep the frame at roughly the same height. It's 1st ten years it did all the mowing until I got the rider in 2010, then it became the "trim work" mower. Now the rider is 14 years old and all I've done besides regular maintenance to it is this year, putting on a new Nikki carburetor as it was cheaper than rebuilding the old one...and adjusted the valves. It hit 360 hours at the end of this season.
That goofy gas cap arrangement just helps direct water inside the tank when the outer part of the cap is missing! So, did Briggs make some engines exclusively for Murray? You mentioned something about a larger hole in the plastic linkage. It is easy to see how Briggs "took cost out" of the good ol 92502s to make this "classic model". No cooling shroud around the cylinder, half of the head bracket missing to support the fuel tank, plastic carb, whimpy recoil/no more ball clutch for the recoil either. What is the crazy cover/boot over the spark plug? Some sort of resistor/RFI shield? Hope I get to mess with one of these carbs someday to see how that primer works. I'm guessing there is not actual main metering jet, just a hole in that plastic thingy. Although this is still much better than that awful tecumseh carb with the plastic main jet/spring and swelled oring set up. This will be a great little mower, oftentimes "less is more".
@@BrucesShop What knowledge? This engine is a few years newer than the good ol 92502s and 92902s I worked on as a teen in the mower shop. Would love to have the opportunity to work on some newer stuff like this in "retirement". I surely have "alot to learn". Love learning stuff everyday, my struggle now is to remember what I learned yesterday! Again, do you know what the crazy big spark plug boot connector thing is all about? I've seen this set up on other engines, wondering what it is and what it is supposed to accomplish.
@@fleetwin1 Yes, that spark plug adaptor is a 5 K ohm resistor. You can measure that with a meter. They are not totally required in my little brain but without one, some spark pkug leads are not long enough to reach the spark plug. It is weird as some spark plugs have a resistor in them. Thanks
Bruce, when a wife encourages you to get mowers, you know you’ve found the one 😂 I love those flatheads. So robust. Great video !
That's the way it works for sure.
I laughed along with you and enjoyed each minute..!
The highlight was remembering how we used to use the word Broccoli for other things, like telling the tow truck driver we were stuck out in the Broccoli!
Thank you for recollecting good times.
I got the brocolli thing from my father in law. (he didn't like iy when it came frozen back in the day)
I was thinking the stuff under the mower was more of a "spinach" texture.
@@BrucesShop I remember frozen spinach well as a kid, plenty of that served to us kids back in the day....
It’s always fun to hang out in Bruce’s Garage. Sometimes we even learn stuff 😉 Hope you and your family have a wonderful holiday season!
Thanks Deckgun. This means a lot.
Great job Bruce! You saved a machine that should have lots of life left. I've never seen a gas cap like the one that was on that tank. 👏📽
Thanks a lot.
Good to see you again Bruce. Always enjoy your work. Nice job!
Thanks again. Good to hear from you
Another patient reanimated in Bruce‘s emergency garage 👍🌞🍀🏥🩺 Greetings from Germany and have a great pre-Christmas time 😘
Thanks so much. Any snow there. We have 25 cms on the ground.
@@BrucesShop 1 inch at work, nothing at home except a dusting. I want more snow!
@ no, had some two weeks ago, but only for two days and it melted away. Right now temperatures around 5-10 degrees Celsius. When I was a child in the 1970‘ mostly around the 6th December we had enough snow to take out the sleigh 🛷 for the first time.
@@Maik1968 Thanks
What a cool save - that mower run for another 15 years - thanks Bruce
You got that right!
A classic. One man's junk is another man's project. That worked out well Bruce. Stevo
Thanks Sreve
What a way to spend some time on a Friday, watching Bruce have fun. Nice one Bruce, that’s a weird looking fuel cap. Never seen one like that before.
Glad you enjoyed it
How's she goin'? Another save by Bruce!!! The old Murray was destined for the scrap heap until you happened by!! Bruce you are ever mower's best friend!! I'm late getting to the party but I enjoyed the video. Take 'er easy!!
You too. Merry Christmas
Another quality video by Pender Productions!
You betcha. Glad you like it.
Good stuff in the free pile that can be fixed is always the best.
Totally agree. I love those kind of finds.
Always great seeing you still out there doing your thing Bruce!!
Thanks so much.
Nice to see ya. Missed your humor too.
More to come!
Hi Bruce! Watching your video now! 😊
Thanks for watching. Enjoy it.
Always fun. Always charming. We love you Bruce!!! Have a great Christmas season!
Thanks I am trying yo figure out who this is lol
@@BrucesShop Just a fan who likes hanging out in the garage 🙂. I watch Donyboy73, Chickanic and your channel. I live and grew up in Edmonton... old school values and I love fixing stuff.
I was surprised to see a mower video pop up in December. Shouldn't you and the Mrs. be in Mexico or somewhere warm?
@@timsforcoffee Soon. It can'y come soon enough. Thanks
Always cool when you have spare parts lying around. Nice save of an old machine.
Yes Thanks for noticing
Them are some awesome mowers very good video thank you for the video
Well thanks so much!!! This means a ot.
Great video Mr Bruce. I have the same type of work table you have. I added a bit bigger table top. I have 3 of those Honda mowers. I added a little longer and wider. Getting cold where I live. Not into working in the garage when it gets below 30 degrees. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the info on the lift
11:24 oil is good 😂😂😂
Haven’t seen a vid of yours in a while glad your doing better
Thanks for watching
Bruce good to see you posting videos again, hope all is well.
Thanks to Mrs. Pender for letting you know about this orphaned Murray mower.
It’s hard to beat the B&S flat head classic engines,
they can be neglected and still be brought back to life.
I see you have at least one snowblower in your shop, is that a future video?
Please have good holidays and safe travels to your winter retreat in Mexico.
Yes. The snowblower was a non runner I saved as well. Thanks for joining in. .
Hi Bruce,
always happy to receive your stories and I check if they work...😂 from Repentigny Qc.
Thanks for checking!
Nice job Mr Bruce, she's sounding good now. 👍
You never know with an abandond mower. Thanks Sir.
Very true and anytime.
You're welcome...glad to hear that, Bruce!!
Good old flathead! Since they are not self propelled, 3.5 HP is plenty of power. 20 inch? Nice machine now that has met Bruce’s Shop!
Yep, and they run forever.
Nice, I love those engines! I think the weird gas cap is the mandated charcoal vapor recovery canister.
I love it. Thanks for the fun.
Good one Bruce.
I would get you to 50K, but there's only one of me. 😊
LOL Thanks
Long life for this mower, runs better than new for sure
I agree my friend.
Nice to see you back. I have the same mower. Great little machine. I had to do the same fix.
They are a great little mower.
Great fix Bruce!
Hope all is well with you.
Yes. All is well Thanks for asking.
I have seen a gas cap like that a few times. Always on a Briggs classic Murray .
Not many up here in the great white north
I have a very similar mower that I bought new in 1993. It is branded "White". Same engine. I didn't know they were still making those engines in 2013. I never had a problem with it. No fuel stabilizers, never drained the tank, and there were long periods (years) when I didn't use it. The side-chute bag is useless, however, and I recently bought a rear-bagger because on my new property I need to vacuum up leaves.
Those engines were good. I agree about the bag!
I hope when I grow up (I think I'm a "Xennial") I can be as awesome as Mr. Bruce!
That was fun Thanks
Great video Bruce
Thanks for commenting John
That sound very good running I like those mowers a lot thank you for the video and if we don't see another video from you to after Christmas Merry Christmas add a Happy New Years
Same to you Thanks so much
Nice work Bruce
Thanks so much.
Great video
I sure like the old ones
Love you videos
Thanks so much
New Bruce, cooool.
Thanks again
Nice job. Can you put a regular cap on it or do you have to switch to a different tank?
I did find a cap. It was off the new Briggs 550E
Glad to see you in the shop. You guys got snow up there didn't you?
Yes We have had lots now for 3 weeks. 20 cms on the ground
briggs had a small white o ring that you could get for tanks that were leaking between carb and tank
Thanks, I’ll have to look into that.
That’s a great score, I love it it’s even my favourite colour, never seen that type of filler neither have I seen a diaphragm in that condition either I guess it’s just been left lying to deteriorate? Handlebar mounts look kinda robust for a low end mower, sorry I’m just daft about those Briggs & Stratton things I’m practically drooling here 😂
Murray make a good mower. Thanks
I bought a mower just like this one over 20 years ago and it was an awesome mower and of course it had a briggs on it and just before I moved I mowed almost 3 acres with it due to the fact I sold my riding mower and only had that mower and it ran flawlessly I wish I could have kept it but I sold it when I moved to an apt 15 years ago. Oh by the way the mower I had didn't have that weird gas cap either it was a regular screw on cap. Oh the mower I had over 20 years ago was a briggs classic and it had a screw on gas cap.
Thanks for the great comment. They are great mowers. I agree
@@bretthibbs6083 thanks a lot
@bretthibbs6083 ok, I am getting used to my new phone if I repeat my reply
Bruce: Never seen a tank cap like that. Sorry you ran afoul of the made in USA sticker. The fuel cap no doubt designed by the same person at our EPA who designed the fuel canisters that you can't empty. Did not know of the emulsion tube in that classic Briggs carb. Thanks for all the tips, tricks, and mistakes, which we all learn from. Narragansett Bay
You are welcome
My 79' Toro has foam air filter I clean with gas & light oil!
Thanks for sharing
I finally abandoned my old 20" Murray with its 3.5 briggs classic last year that I bought new back in 2000. The motor is still okay, but the deck is just absolutely shot, lol. The bolt holes for the wheels had rusted out years ago and I bolted aluminum flat stock to its sides and drilled new bolt holes for the non-adjustable wheels. Last year the front and back of the deck began to disappear and at the end of the season I parked it behind my garage. I only ever used it for trim work in places my riding mower wouldn't get. Not being able to find a similar model, I instead went out and bought a Stihl weed trimmer and now use it instead, though I did remove its stock bump feed head and put a European style automatic feed head on it. Me and bump heads just never got along, lol.
Wow that old mower went through a lot??
@@BrucesShop You could say that, lol. When I first bought it I didn't have so much as a shed to keep it in, so kept it under the back deck its first ten years. The auto shutoff cable broke in that time, so forever after that I just shut it off the old fashioned way, grounding out the spark plug with a screwdriver. The back flap disappeared sometime around 2012. But I always maintained it well. Went through 3 diaphragm gasket sets in that time, 3 oiled sponge filters and changed the plug and oil on it every season. One year I did ask for a set of points for it and was told it didn't have any, lol. I had no idea small engines had also went to electronic ignition. Sharpened the blades on a bench grinder and balanced them on a nail in the wall. After it's second set of plastic wheels' hubs broke out, the third set it got steel wheels with ball bearings. They were about an inch small in diameter, so I just used the bottom bolt holes to keep the frame at roughly the same height. It's 1st ten years it did all the mowing until I got the rider in 2010, then it became the "trim work" mower. Now the rider is 14 years old and all I've done besides regular maintenance to it is this year, putting on a new Nikki carburetor as it was cheaper than rebuilding the old one...and adjusted the valves. It hit 360 hours at the end of this season.
@@Rebel9668 FYI Most small engines dropped the points thing in 1982- 1983
@@BrucesShop LOL, well, that tells ya how long the mower BEFORE that one lasted then.
That was the last version of the classic with that type of gas cap. Also it has an internal governor not the air vane.
Thanks
Let's get Bruce to 50K, Subscribe!!!
YEAH !!!!!!
That gas cap is missing the whole top part, sadly you can't use older caps on it since it screws into the gas tank.
True Thanks again for watching Sir
The oil on air cleaner is to keep the air from drying it out.
I never used oil on my older mower. but kept it clean
Nice to be back in the shop eh Bruce. Getting close to Mexico time eh?
Yes Mexico is the goal But I am not going for another month or so
That goofy gas cap arrangement just helps direct water inside the tank when the outer part of the cap is missing! So, did Briggs make some engines exclusively for Murray? You mentioned something about a larger hole in the plastic linkage. It is easy to see how Briggs "took cost out" of the good ol 92502s to make this "classic model". No cooling shroud around the cylinder, half of the head bracket missing to support the fuel tank, plastic carb, whimpy recoil/no more ball clutch for the recoil either. What is the crazy cover/boot over the spark plug? Some sort of resistor/RFI shield? Hope I get to mess with one of these carbs someday to see how that primer works. I'm guessing there is not actual main metering jet, just a hole in that plastic thingy. Although this is still much better than that awful tecumseh carb with the plastic main jet/spring and swelled oring set up.
This will be a great little mower, oftentimes "less is more".
Thanks for your knowledge
@@BrucesShop What knowledge? This engine is a few years newer than the good ol 92502s and 92902s I worked on as a teen in the mower shop. Would love to have the opportunity to work on some newer stuff like this in "retirement". I surely have "alot to learn". Love learning stuff everyday, my struggle now is to remember what I learned yesterday!
Again, do you know what the crazy big spark plug boot connector thing is all about? I've seen this set up on other engines, wondering what it is and what it is supposed to accomplish.
@@fleetwin1 Yes, that spark plug adaptor is a 5 K ohm resistor. You can measure that with a meter. They are not totally required in my little brain but without one, some spark pkug leads are not long enough to reach the spark plug. It is weird as some spark plugs have a resistor in them. Thanks
@@BrucesShop Wonder why they wanted/needed to put the resistor there??
@fleetwin1 Right I get that
I like finding money! Looks likw you're going to get a fair return on a little investment. Have a very merry Christmas!
Thanks so much!!!
Score mower find.
Right on!!!!!
Pricey Gas Cap, about 30 bucks!
I did find a cap for the cap LOL a 550E gas cap???
@@BrucesShop Yes, Briggs # 799585
@@BrucesShop It should work on that tank flange.
Right duh on me
Nice to see you having fun in the shop again! 👍
That was the cheaply made mower in 2013 , now in 2024 it looks commercial compared to the cheap mowers today .
I agree. Murray made a good mower back then.
Thanks Tylor You work very hard. I did when I was your age too.