MIKE JOYCE on The Smiths 1st album!

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  • Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
  • Mike Joyce talks to XS Manchester about hearing The Smiths for the first time.

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  • @HaZZb97
    @HaZZb97 3 года назад +154

    Andy and Mike are criminally under appreciated. One of the tightest rhythm sections in rock. Period. The Smiths wouldn't be the same without them.

    • @Nonexistanthuman
      @Nonexistanthuman Год назад +10

      As a fan for about 2 decades now, You really start to notice the brilliance in each member more & more as time goes

    • @vincentbrannelly8786
      @vincentbrannelly8786 Год назад +6

      The Smiths were four people of exceptional talent . Pity they were not capable of accepting each others contribution.

    • @AmericaAriella
      @AmericaAriella 10 месяцев назад

      @HaZZb97 you are so right!

    • @fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied
      @fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied Месяц назад

      Criminally?

  • @user-ev1uo7sb8n
    @user-ev1uo7sb8n 6 лет назад +195

    thank you mike you were so bloody important to the smiths.

    • @barnijones1
      @barnijones1 4 года назад +3

      Indeed :)

    • @erindaniel2310
      @erindaniel2310 3 года назад

      ok, i completely agree with you, i think one more world tour playing things from ALL albums and going all over the place, just once more for us all

    • @tien4930
      @tien4930 3 года назад +3

      I really like Mike, seems humble and nice. The Smiths wouldn’t be The Smiths without him obviously. But idk, i’ve never been super impressed with his drumming. It’s alright, but eh.

    • @JJ-zg1hh
      @JJ-zg1hh 3 года назад +9

      @@tien4930 have a look at him playing at the Rockpalast gig in Germany in 1984. It's on RUclips. He was absolutely on fire!

    • @thelantern9075
      @thelantern9075 Год назад +3

      @@tien4930 He played the perfect parts for the songs. Nothing fancy was necessary, that’s what makes him great. His understanding of the music.

  • @leonardjohnny67
    @leonardjohnny67 4 года назад +66

    You’re mate was right. I snuck into the Hacienda one October evening 1983 age 16 to see you on the back of your first two singles. Utterly life-changing. I’ve seen hundreds of bands, saw all the Madchester stuff. But that night was pandemonium. Ended up lying on stage with tons of others daffodils everywhere thinking even at my young age I will never, ever experience anything like this again. And I haven’t.

  • @TheZeke1970
    @TheZeke1970 6 лет назад +131

    Mike Joyce, a class act and a very gracious and thoughtful dude. Love Mozzer too, Love all of the Smiths. Wish they could let go of past squabbles and gift the world with another run for all us that
    were and continue to be moved by the music. Gives me the chills just thinking about it.

    • @thegirlfrommars4386
      @thegirlfrommars4386 5 лет назад +3

      They'd definitely appeal nowadays. Would love to see that but unfortunately the chances look pretty bleak. Never say never though!!

    • @julianlaverde1380
      @julianlaverde1380 4 года назад

      @@thegirlfrommars4386 Well, i don't think so. Morrissey basically hates all of the 'Smiths' idea. He's been constantly saying that it won't happen.

    • @berniehoe9960
      @berniehoe9960 4 года назад +8

      I think if Morrisey got his act together the others would all be up for it, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon since Moz is a stubborn one

    • @darlinjacq1552
      @darlinjacq1552 3 года назад

      Thank you Mike, you are amazing for helping so many people out there, in this place we call the world...

    • @ltfringr
      @ltfringr 3 года назад +2

      I don't think another run of new material would be genuine even if the members were on good terms, their run was lightning in a bottle, really.
      A live show could definitely happen if they got over their differences.

  • @RoundtreeattheGrosvernor
    @RoundtreeattheGrosvernor 4 года назад +34

    Unbelievable drummer. Top chops.

  • @curiouslee3833
    @curiouslee3833 6 лет назад +85

    Thank you, Mike Joyce, for being part of THE BAND THAT SAVED MY LIFE!! I mean that earnestly and with deep heartfelt sincerity! As a 'smalltown boy' teen in a hateful Bible Belt southern US town, which is all I had known, I spent hours alone in my room listening to music and trying to write my way out of that world. When I heard The Smiths, I realized that I was not alone, and that it could be possible for me to find acceptance. I am eternally grateful and cannot thank you enough for all of the great music. VIVA SMITHS! MORRISSEY MARR ROURKE JOYCE DRUMS BASS GUITAR VOICE

  • @emerckx53
    @emerckx53 4 года назад +39

    One of the most original bands in the history of rock.

  • @georgelorence1089
    @georgelorence1089 3 года назад +15

    Mike you are great.
    So was Andy.
    In my opinion
    The Smiths are the greatest band.of all time.
    For many reasons but one point to be made.
    The Smiths were 4 Gentleman not 1 or 2.
    All four of you are The Smiths.
    And not one of you could've ever been replaced.
    Much love man.

  • @crashjanglechime
    @crashjanglechime 2 года назад +9

    I love Mike Joyce's view on The Smiths. So beautiful that someone who was part of it has so much love for it. And how all the subsequent dreck hasn't clouded that love. What's happened subsequently has happened, it's done. But The Smiths is an episode in history that should stand i it's own right and not ne forgotten. Because it was beautiful.

  • @CruceEntertainment
    @CruceEntertainment Год назад +3

    Glad we have these videos hearing their perspectives, now that they are getting older. RIP Andy.

  • @quite.unloveable
    @quite.unloveable Год назад +7

    3:48 very true. i got the chance to meet mike at one of his dj sets, and told him that the smiths are saving my life. he replied “they saved my life too!”.
    wholesome, and very meaningful

  • @davidd4447
    @davidd4447 6 лет назад +42

    The first album has always been my favorite Mike. Those Troy Tate sessions are how I imagine you truly sounded like when your mate was shaking. Lots of man, God bless

  • @PaulBeckett01Rigs
    @PaulBeckett01Rigs 4 года назад +36

    What a lovely, down to earth man Mike Joyce is, especially when you look at how far up his own bottom Morrissey has gone.

    • @TheInfamousLegend27
      @TheInfamousLegend27 Год назад

      i believe in this context up his own arse is the right time. use the word with pride lol

  • @francojoeulm.florin3545
    @francojoeulm.florin3545 2 года назад +5

    The drumming in Pretty Girls Makes Grave is one of the most addictive sounds one could ask for

  • @armandon4623
    @armandon4623 5 лет назад +27

    It's a shame these guys cant do some gigs together. It would take the world by storm. I'm pretty sure they will regret it someday. Could be one of the greatest tours EVER

    • @michelcollet
      @michelcollet 2 года назад

      Absolutely. They are all still alive.

    • @zozupidor
      @zozupidor Год назад +2

      @@michelcollet ;(

  • @PiggoNZ
    @PiggoNZ 3 года назад +12

    What a charming man. I love how fondly he speaks about those days despite how much things soured between the band. It's sad, but then if Morrissey had been a mild, well mannered young man who was content to potter around in the garden, there never would have been The Smiths..

  • @albertounited
    @albertounited Год назад +4

    You're a top man Mike!
    Btw... God bless you Andy. We miss you a lot 🙏💔

  • @danielday713
    @danielday713 3 года назад +7

    “It’s the Smiths.” Exactly! They are as unique today as they were in the mid eighties. Thanks, Mike

  • @NoName-zi9qs
    @NoName-zi9qs 3 года назад +8

    Mike, if I was walking down the street and we passed by, I wouldn't know I'd be passing one of my fave drummers of all time. In the years following, we all wished that you and the boys would give us one last album. Sadly, time moves on, but the songs remain. Thank you.

  • @dylan_1884
    @dylan_1884 4 года назад +11

    Mike looks great, so glad all of the members of my favorite band found their own beautiful niches in the world of music. All the best!

  • @dylan_1884
    @dylan_1884 4 года назад +9

    Also, the Smith's first album will always be my favorite. I love each and every song on it so much.

  • @festersuncle6298
    @festersuncle6298 2 года назад +5

    "The" band of my 51 years on earth. First heard them in my brother's car in '84-'85.

  • @mattkent2651
    @mattkent2651 Год назад +2

    Mike Joyce, what an amazing musician you are. And how incredible and superb is it, hearing your first hand experiences. I absolutely love it. PLEASE share more. There are so many lovely moments you share. Just wonderful. Thanks Mike!

  • @thesunnyveil
    @thesunnyveil 6 лет назад +8

    1986. Aragon Ballroom, Chicago. Thanks for working the sticks, Mike! Wun-der-full show.

  • @conorhealy5169
    @conorhealy5169 2 года назад +4

    After all the Court Case stuff, and the hate that Morrissey throws at this man, its great that he is such a fan of The Smiths!

  • @bigdrums9905
    @bigdrums9905 Год назад +2

    Best live band I've ever seen - you were awesome, and I loved your drumming - you and Andy were such a great rhythm section - under-appreciated I think

  • @felixgraphx
    @felixgraphx 6 лет назад +13

    Wow I like to hear about smith's history from a smith himself - that's great!

  • @ashleyohohoh
    @ashleyohohoh 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love you ALL!!

  • @kwak76
    @kwak76 5 лет назад +20

    Mike and Andy were just as important to the smiths. Sadly we will never see them come together ever again.

    • @1888gp
      @1888gp 3 года назад

      important but not as important as the song writers

    • @freya8133
      @freya8133 2 года назад

      Well that's good. Getting back together ruined the Sex Pistols legacy, turned them into a joke to many of their former fans.

  • @ingy2468
    @ingy2468 4 года назад +4

    We fans do make a big point of how much they meant to us, it was our therapy, songs that saved our lives, but yes, can we imagine how it must have felt being in The Smiths!!!! mind blowing!

  • @comedybeersexappeal
    @comedybeersexappeal 3 года назад +4

    Awesome drummer. Really underrated.

  • @steenrasmussen5280
    @steenrasmussen5280 Год назад +1

    So many GREAT albums, but the first was absolutely EPIC!

  • @lifelongred7056
    @lifelongred7056 Год назад +3

    Andy Rourke is an amazing bass player. His riffs are quality.

  • @bhdctn
    @bhdctn 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Mike. You and the rest of the Smith's are so important to me Y'all changed my life for better♥️

  • @scottdavis0801
    @scottdavis0801 5 лет назад +10

    Would listen and copy Mike's drumming chops when i was a kid. All of the band was important, the rhythm section, or it wouldn't have been as great as it was!

  • @ListenUpMusic
    @ListenUpMusic 6 лет назад +5

    That's exactly why it took me many years to like the band. Ever since I was a child, I have heard The Smiths songs on Radio bu I have always found it very strange band. It took many many many years to understand the band. At the time it was not even Guns N Roses, It was not Dance type, Not Prince, Not Jackson, It did not look Rock, It was not New Kids on The Blocks, Not American music, it was not Dark and played on Radio ever. It took me more than 20 years to understand what the sound of THE SMITHS.
    I only understood when I met in Magazine music Morrisey's life philosophy and JonnyMarr guitar style. And after a friend my (Bassplayer) explains what Marr does with the guitar in track "How Soon is Now" and I was impressed. Here in my country THE SMITHS and others uk bands is the basic for almost an entire 80s musical culture.
    The song I heard most on Radio was ASK. What always caught my attention was the part of the Sea sound in the middle. I spent my entire childhood without knowing someone who had an album of The Smiths. Only after in 90´s I came I had access to the albums. Today I go supermarket here near the my house and I still listen The Smiths in the Radio FM in SoundAmbient of the Supermarket sometimes. Here in Brazil The Smiths is a band that nobody can speak badly. Who knows and collects this kind of guitar rock bands nobody can speak badly.
    The only LP I have in my collection is the first of THE SMITHS. But I found it in a used shop and it's all scratched the Vinil LP. I still have it because of the big cover! By Jairo D!

    • @nycholasgr8112
      @nycholasgr8112 5 лет назад

      O que seu amigo falou da guitarra de How soon is now? Eu comecei a ouvir smiths faz pouco tempo e eu gosto da grande maioria das músicas, mas tipo How soon is now é uma famosona deles que eu não gosto tanto..... eu gosto das mais “estranhas” deles sei lá, como o álbum strangeways here we come

  • @ajh21313
    @ajh21313 6 лет назад +98

    Mike and Andy, you guys were just as important as Johnny and Steven... Glad you sued for your part of the royalties!

    • @andrewwinton4608
      @andrewwinton4608 6 лет назад +6

      Wasn't the problem that they had previously AGREED to 10% of the royalties in a legally binding document?

    • @Impdive
      @Impdive 6 лет назад +1

      @@andrewwinton4608 This was claimed by Morrissey and Marr, but no such document was produced at the trial.

    • @andrewwinton4608
      @andrewwinton4608 6 лет назад +3

      I thought it was proven that they had signed a 10% royalties document?

    • @andrewwinton4608
      @andrewwinton4608 6 лет назад +2

      To be honest, I'm no expert. John Weeks obviously didn't like Morrissey too much and he was demonised by the whole thing but all 4 of the Smiths are richer than half of the world combined anyway. Morrissey and Marr were the Smiths and the other two, whilst integral, were very much in the background, so who knows?

    • @Impdive
      @Impdive 6 лет назад +3

      ​@@andrewwinton4608 I'm reading Morrissey's autobiography at the moment, where he complains bitterly and at length about the court case, but even he acknowledges (and laments) that they had virtually nothing written down, so it all came down to competing testimony, in which he and Marr claimed that there had been a 40-40-10-10 'agreement', and Joyce and Rourke claimed otherwise.

  • @ampersand6440
    @ampersand6440 Год назад

    Great stuff MJ. Top man.

  • @AthosRac
    @AthosRac 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing this.

  • @alliemuschong1175
    @alliemuschong1175 Год назад

    They were like the 80s version of the Revolver Beatles. Combination of lyrical artistry, melodic mastery and rhythmic, rock solid presence. Truly a gift to the world.

  • @adilsonsilva6533
    @adilsonsilva6533 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful Voice
    Essa é a primeira vez que ouço a sua voz. Parabéns por ser quem você. Sua vida foi importante para minha vida. Obgd

  • @Bodyknowledge77
    @Bodyknowledge77 6 лет назад +6

    The inspiration that is The Smiths....

  • @tonyvoxu2
    @tonyvoxu2 4 года назад +1

    Pidgeons in flight, that's my favourite. That, and Can't go back to savory now.

  • @menswear2112
    @menswear2112 3 года назад +6

    You’re an important drummer in rock history, if only for one reason: you put up with Morrissey all these years. Joke aside, thank you for everything, you matter a lot to us!

  • @Slowdived80
    @Slowdived80 3 года назад

    love Mike's enthusiasm 😎🍻

  • @joeyglasses7626
    @joeyglasses7626 5 лет назад +8

    What really sux is that all the members are still alive a well No reason there shouldn't be a reunion tour of some kind..that's would be Amazing! I'm pretty sure something can be worked out before its to late...Long Live THE SMITHS!!

  • @kyledavis828
    @kyledavis828 3 года назад

    amazing album and band

  • @v-town1980
    @v-town1980 3 года назад +2

    Great stuff! Don't know why they had to keep changing the camera angle here.

  • @gusanocc51
    @gusanocc51 Год назад +1

    que sonidos maravillosos de los grandes Smiths podian tener todo tipo de estilos musicales pero era un sonido vakan para los oidos y sabias que eran de los Smiths, una banda que no debio morir nunca.

  • @andrea.mojarro
    @andrea.mojarro 3 года назад +3

    omg he's so adorable

  • @sangirardiecavicchi648
    @sangirardiecavicchi648 4 года назад +1

    Great drummer

  • @antoniomanzo5856
    @antoniomanzo5856 4 года назад

    GreAt drummer.. ..touch very fresh Is beat funky pop excellent...

  • @storyandsoundscape8859
    @storyandsoundscape8859 4 года назад

    Thank you

  • @Eggnoodlesandketchup3
    @Eggnoodlesandketchup3 Год назад +1

    My favourite album is the Queen is dead but i think the best is the first album. Its the heaviest.

  • @spark556
    @spark556 2 года назад +1

    What a nice bloke

  • @jimmynebula
    @jimmynebula Год назад

    Mikes got Great Hair!

  • @sturob6810
    @sturob6810 4 года назад

    Top band my favourite song is maybe Jeane, and just about everything else they did.......

  • @mrpentium
    @mrpentium 3 года назад +1

    something Mike and I have in common.... never seen the Smiths live

  • @marksandland208
    @marksandland208 Год назад

    Only ever managed to get tickets for The Smiths once, in a venue in Llandudno, which closed down before the concert happened. Never got a refund, never saw The Smiths, tho I have seen Mozza a few times since, didn’t make up for missing the full band.

  • @prudenceneverpays
    @prudenceneverpays Год назад

    MIKEEEEEE

  • @cujimmi
    @cujimmi 4 месяца назад

    Seems like a really nice guy

  • @animalblack8482
    @animalblack8482 6 лет назад

    Excellent.

  • @n136h
    @n136h 6 лет назад +1

    Great vid

  • @ashfordp676
    @ashfordp676 3 года назад

    A fucking boss drummer.

  • @Slowdived80
    @Slowdived80 3 года назад +1

    I think the debut could be their best.

  • @mattkaz9604
    @mattkaz9604 4 года назад +3

    He's so nice and approachable. I can't imagine him and modern day Morrissey spending any time together.

  • @squiremuldoon5462
    @squiremuldoon5462 3 года назад +1

    Mike, all 4 of you are and will always be the Smiths , no matter what your singer believes.

  • @blowoutlow
    @blowoutlow 6 лет назад +7

    wobbly ears

  • @sunnysyl7
    @sunnysyl7 4 года назад +1

    ❤️

  • @javiervedas1444
    @javiervedas1444 Год назад

    💖💖💖💖💖

  • @eancurtis9333
    @eancurtis9333 Год назад

  • @BudgieFan101
    @BudgieFan101 2 года назад +1

    I just wish The Smith's would ReUnite.

  • @JT-ss6si
    @JT-ss6si 4 года назад +1

    He makes Steven/Morrissey sound so vague when he describes his goals. Like he really didn't get to know him.

  • @pocket1684
    @pocket1684 2 года назад +1

    As much as people Morrissey/Marr but what about the rhythm section. THe smiths rhythm section led by Joyce are underrated.

  • @sunnysyl7
    @sunnysyl7 4 года назад

    Rafters ❤️

  • @PontiacS.
    @PontiacS. 3 месяца назад

    Baguley 'N 'Nat.

  • @cicolasnage5684
    @cicolasnage5684 Год назад

    I love the smiths, the lyrics, the musicianship among the 4 lads is just amazing. Such a tight and focused group. They truly are the Beatles of the 80s. Short lived ( yes the Beatles recording wise lasted from
    63- 70, that’s pretty short for a great band) memorable to teenagers of that time, two charismatic leads and background players that are genius players. And made a lasting impression on a generation.
    Sadly joyce, marr, morrissey , and rourke will never play together again. Thankfully old videos and recordings live on. Youth will never die.

  • @paulgrahamedwardspencer5161
    @paulgrahamedwardspencer5161 6 лет назад +6

    Once a drummer in the best band now a dj 😂😂😂😂

    • @cw4686
      @cw4686 6 лет назад +10

      And he'll forever remain the drummer for the Smiths, the best band ever!

    • @marcap9757
      @marcap9757 6 лет назад +1

      Now, the best dj.

    • @barnijones1
      @barnijones1 4 года назад

      @@ashleyboorman4856 panic :)

  • @elliottsilverman7931
    @elliottsilverman7931 3 года назад

    Noel's g s favourite as well

  • @canaldoserafim8002
    @canaldoserafim8002 3 года назад

    all the members group are alive, would be a dream see them play again, but the differencs tears them apart.

  • @ustheserfs
    @ustheserfs 3 года назад +2

    Anyone else annoyed Morrissey banished Mike because he simply collected what was his to start with?

  • @TheBobbyel
    @TheBobbyel 2 года назад

    Seems like nice bloke. But it can be deceptive. I lost any regard for this man when I learned in Morrisey autobiography that he sent his lawyers to try to put Morriseys mother out of her house and also his sister and 2 kids on the street. All so he could sell the 2 houses and pocket the cash. He failed because neither property was in Morrisey name.

  • @stevespeak1007
    @stevespeak1007 Год назад

    Love you mike 💙💙

  • @mrgainz1344
    @mrgainz1344 Год назад

    The most original band ever!

  • @rachelglittenberg3310
    @rachelglittenberg3310 Год назад

    I think they will regret it if they never get back at least for a few gigs. They need to get over themselves and do it for the greater good.