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The entire world could have navies in Somalia this doesn’t mean Ethiopia can as well. This would be like if India was landlocked and argued we should have a navy base in Pakistan because of other countries. First acknowledge the dark history between the Somali people the colonial wannabes of Ethiopia.
Respect The sovereignty and integrity Territorial rights of Somalia 🇸🇴
Poor Africa. What's the problem if Ethiopia has a navy on the Red Sea? Djibouti has allowed several countries to set up naval bases on the Red Sea that came from far away.
If Samaliland allows this and Ethiopia and Somaliland work together, then what is the problem?
Well first of all Somaliland is not a recognised country Somalia and Djibouti are and Somaliland has no right to allowed to give any land that belongs to the Somali people.
It can have navy but it should stay in ethiopian lakes not other countries waters
Allow Ethiopia to take your country we Somali will not allow Ethiopia or any other country to take our country
@@Abdi-libaax but what about UAE who has milliter base in Somaliland
@@SamuelAyele-vg7eh The problem is Somalians think they are Arab and they have deep rooted hate to Ethiopia. About 20,000 of Ethiopian military members are in Somalia helping them keep Somalia's peace but these people are ungrateful.
The question should have been whether an independent nation with its own police forces, with its own currency and recognized international borders have a right to sign an agreement with its neighbors? How come you have never involved Somaliland in this conversation? Whether Ethiopia gets access to the Red Sea or otherwise, do the people of Somaliland not deserve recognition?
Everyone knows no single country recognises somaliland and region having boundaries isn't something that defines a country.
@@whatshappening3474it doesn’t really matter how one defines a country, but these people have their own currency and their own police force for 30 plus years, they are more stable than Somalia. Above all they have never wanted to be a part of Somalia but an independent nation. They had stayed with Somalia for 31 years, it never worked and it has been 31 years as an independent nation now.
Do you know what’s funny about all this ordeal? Mogadishu being agitated about the land it has never controlled or managed or owned. From 1884-1960 British controlled the territory, in 1960 they voluntarily joined the southern region (Italy-Somalia) and in the 90s voluntarily left to become an independent nation. If Somalia has an issue it has to be dealt with Somaliland not with Ethiopia
@@yedidyaful bro these are envious haters frm the failed state of Somalia all they can do is post envious comments here that’s all 😂😂 they know the reality on the ground Somaliland is an independent state that Somalia can’t mess with them , and also Eritrea n Kenya are two envious weasels😂 so Ethiopia n Somaliland agreement is done deal let the haters mourn here😂 a comment frm Somaliland 👈
@@whatshappening3474 another hater whining here😂😂 UAE n ETHIOPIA recognised Somaliland and soon you’ll see more countries than you’ll die with hate 😂😂😂😂
Somalia 🇸🇴 as showed they are no longer failed state and have shook Ethiopia 🇪🇹 up! Ethiopia 🇪🇹 divided country with politics and ethnic tribal warfare have no way to survive a war with Somalia 🇸🇴! Plus Somali 🇸🇴 has super powers backing them up ! Ethiopia 🇪🇹 as become enemy to all its neighbors including Ethiopia 🇪🇹 itself with all this internal tribal warfare!
it's good that Kenya understands the mentality of Ethiopia which claim that the whole northern and east Africa from Egypt to Uganda belong to them. And that is why the horn of Africa experience 800 plus years of wars. Those who compare djibouti giving bases to foreign countries with somaliland inviting Ethiopia should understand that Ethiopia wants a land to occupy and annexe. Djibouti already gave Ethiopia several ports,erythrea is ready for it,and somalia already demonstrated that they invite Ethiopia to invest four ports together but Ethiopia wants a colony, literally an imperial mindset. To clarify the topic further,just go and search what Mr aby ahmed told his citizens through national TV- To get a sea by any meaning including military.
Tomorrow,they will try to attack Kenya. Africa should be careful of the Ethiopian government. If Ethiopia continues to interfere with neighbors that will open the door that other countries interfere with Ethiopia's internal affairs.
There's nothing to negotiate
The sea is ours and we will defend our sea and land no matter what
You've not been able to defend yourselves from Al-Shabab how will you defend yourself here? Somaliland has been independent from Somalia since 1991 and has been orderly and democratic when Somalia has been facing terrorism non-stop since 1991.
@dwamburu1 You have no Country, and army. Ethopia is going down. You are landlocked air,and sea. You need Somalia like a baby needs mommy. You can't survive without somali person
Ethiopia is playing with fire, we remind our Ethiopian neighbor to refrain from such provocative measures and respect the international law and AU charter otherwise Ethiopia will regret its decision .
Ethiopia is isolated diplomatically and I sure if it starts to muddle Somali internal affairs that it will inherit a fiasco and embarrassment.
Ethio❤❤❤
Ethiopia has a right to sign MOU with Somale land, so what is the problem with it?
Ethiopian leadership, under Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, prioritizes regional stability and collaboration, rejecting any notions of expansionist agendas.
Ethiopia has been landlocked for 30 years and they did to themselves.Somali don’t have free sea and port for Ethiopia and Ethiopia can’t able to annex. If Ethiopia wants to do business with Somalia, they are welcome to use Berbera port and pay their fees as many landlock countries do. Every country should say NO NO NO to Ethiopia.
Somalia is backed by the US, Egypt, Turkey, EU, Eritrea, Sudan & South Sudan.
Who does Ethiopia have? UAE!
Ethiopia is a regional pariah.
But I want to thank the fool in Addis Ababa. Thank you for uniting us.
it is good to be united as a nation !Ethiopians want u to b united that is why our brothers & sisters fighting for u ! do not be a fool as u told !!
somaliland is long gone for the past 33 years !!
These countries gave similar promise to Palestine to stand with it . But precisely they haven' t do nothing as Gaza is burning.
What about these news’s? Egypt in Somaliland 😉🙀😢 does KTN not aware of it?
1) “Egypt plans to set up military base in Somaliland angers Ethiopia” - Somaliland Standard - July 18, 2020
2) “Ethiopia reads mischief in Egypt plan for Somaliland military base” - The East African - July 28, 2020
3) “Somaliland Recognition Quest Boosted by Ethiopia and Egypt’s Scramble for Hargeisa” - Somaliland Current - July 31, 2020
4) “Egypt’s hope for a military base in the Horn of Africa (Somaliland) is waning” - Egypt Watch - August 24, 2020
So what ever we can open our landlocked countries
This really show us Kenya doesn't want to Ethiopia have direct access of international water, i things this is becouse of Kenya invested a lot in lamu port to will Ethiopia access the coreder commercially...........but let me tell you something either you like it or not Ethiopia will no longer runs us a land locked country's period! This is doesn't means that Ethiopia will go to wars with our neighboring countries but we achieve it with win win coperetion like of Somali land.
One month later what have you achieved? The whole has turned against Ethiopia and now Somalia has maritime deal with Turkey! Ethiopia is a failed state that has no friends and has civil war going on
Let us reject divisive narratives and focus on constructive engagement to strengthen ties between Ethiopia and its neighbors, fostering a future of shared prosperity and peace in the region.
There problem for abi is that he is trying so hard to keep his country together and stop the wars going on
So he has to reignite old dream which was there's no somalia and it belongs to them
Also if his intention was business he wouldn't be asking marine base
So we know what he's up to
And we will never allow that to happen no matter what
Our next step will be to reclaim our land back and than see what happens....we are ready to fight for our country.....
An amazing assessment of the subject in a few minutes. One of the best I've heard in analyzing the the Horn.🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪locally or internationally.👍👍👍
That kind of journalistic analysis should be able to be done by involving scholars and journalists from different countries.
Strange how dubious "experts" think it's wrong for Ethiopia to have a navy? Eritrea has, Sudan has, and several countries who have leased the port from Djibouti have! Somaliland has managed to keep pirates and Al-Shabaab off area for two decades and strangely, Kenyan guests think Somalia which failed to keep pirates of its coast, needs to have a stake and entitlement to Somaliland. Can you tell us why Somalia has not spent a dime on Somaliland for 30 years and why no Somalian gov. official has visited Somaliland since in 1984? Somaliland predates Somalia, so to claim its part of Somalia is absurd and uniformed. A 2005 African Union fact-finding mission said Somaliland is entitled to African Union recognition. Ethiopia is Somaliland's largest trade partner and security ally. KTN needed to invite a balanced panel.
isaq clan can't be independent country . they just somalian and minority groups according to great somalian sub tribe
Somaliland belongs to Somali ! Ethiopians will never be allowed to take parts of our soil. I'm from somaliland and most are against it
Somalia❤🇸🇴♥️is only for Somali😎⚔️💪🏿Somali sea is not for sale💪🏿💯🔥⚔️
I hope that you will present a dialogue that includes all three countries at another time
GREAT analysis ethiopia once again making wrong choices and this chapter called the lala land wants landlord from landlocked land 😢
No idea what they are talking about, they have little knowledge!
The Kenya media needs to understand the clan dynamics of Somalia. Most Kenyan MPs hate Somaliland because they have close clan ties with Somalia and family members serving in that government and receive stipends. Somaliland is the only democratic success story from the Horn that is not clan-based that irks them. Ethiopia has security forces in Kismayu, Baydoa and Galmudug fighting Al-Shabaab. To view Ethiopia as an enemy when they are fighting for you is a slap on the face.
Ethiopia's commitment to African unity and cooperation under Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed's leadership is evident through initiatives aimed at enhancing connectivity and mutual development.
Let us understand the reality, Somalia is at war with Somaliland and not with Ethiopia as they offered ports to Ethiopia in many times by many presidents while Ethiopia forces are in all over Somalia including the capital!!?
Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed has consistently advocated for African countries' integration through initiatives like energy cooperation, infrastructure development, and trade partnerships.
We payed a blood tribute for somalia for decades aganist SHBAB as a member of AMISOM!!! Build the base and have influence on the region !!!
Crab in the bucket mentality.
I don't think the discussion was fair because it didn't include journalists from Ethiopia, Somalia, Somaliland or academics.
The discussion on this topic today exposed deficiency of the so called think tank political honchos the likes of Professor Kagwanja. They all got it all wrong .
They should build naval bases in their rivers and lakes if they want 😂
Somali owned somalia people somali nation we defend our country ethopian our others 🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴 we stand ever our nation 🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴.
Ethiopia rejects any "Kush Empire" sentiments. H.E PM Abiy Ahmed's vision focuses on African integration through trade, energy, and infrastructure development, not domination.
I wonder majority of somalis love and respect kenyans according to other countries in the region!
Northern region of somaliland is a autonomous province of the Federal republic of Somalia 🇸🇴 ❤
No one stop Ethiopian success trust me unless God
The same Ethiopia that was stopped by 3 million Eritreans?
Default Ethiopia is going finance your default
1977 the Ethiopian soldiers ran and left their weapons and rest we feed them food but like always some nation comes to your help. The problem this time is the world knows Ethiopia is breaking international law if they move forward with this fake deal.
@@sjey8665 Pretty sure you played dead and buried yourselves Eritrean people should be thankful for the gift Ethiopia has gave you
@@sjey8665who stopped us ?
somaliland is a country that has severed its relations with Somalia for thirty years and declared itself to have its own flag and passport in order to maintain its own peace and therefore has a beneficial agreement with its neighbor,
This is not dispute, this is the joke of the 21st century, plus a poor nation like Ethiopia should respect the sovereign of its neighbors
failed to seize Somalia 🇸🇴 sea Abiy dealing with mafia from uk 🇬🇧 to make fake history for LAMU Kenya 🇰🇪 says Oromo use to own before colony. Abiy created new Oromuma country.
Somaliland is independent country they can do whatever they want,no one can stop Ethiopia and Somali land integration
Accusations against H.E PM Abiy Ahmed regarding a "Kush Empire" agenda are malicious and without merit. Ethiopia's focus remains on regional integration and cooperation for mutual benefit.
H.E PM Abiy Ahmed's commitment to African integration is evident in his advocacy for energy, road, and trade cooperation. Accusations of planning a "Kush Empire" are unfounded and misleading.
Ethopian prime Minister is so naive,he have its own issue, all three rebels sarounding the capital .there is no Ethopian army. Tigraay is independent allready with the help of Eritrea, amhara fano is organizing to be own independent country. Oromo muslim fighting against Christians. Amhara will never get along with oromo . Only 60 km by land is accessible to the government from capital. He is covering smoke himself but the reality is Ethopia is going down the hill.
Ethiopia's agreement with Somaliland is a surprise news for us Ethiopians. We really don't know what our leaders are thinking until now. What the people of Somalia should know is that the people of Ethiopia have not officially supported this agreement. It was not expected that the Ethiopian government officials alone would decide on such an agreement that could destabilize the East African region. What I want to say is that the people of both countries should not get into conflict too soon and open the door to our worst Western enemies who have been waiting for this opportunity. I do not think that the people of Ethiopia will support any armed conflict with Somalia because of this agreement. It is the other way around. However, because of this agreement, if Somalia intends to cooperate with Ethiopia's bitter enemies such as Egypt to endanger Ethiopia's national interests, believe me, Somalia's existence will be in serious danger and in the end Egypt will not care about any danger to Somalia. That's what the West did to Ukraine. Therefore, the Somali authorities should resolve the problem by holding frequent talks with neighboring Ethiopia before they make an unwise decision too soon. When Somalia was torn apart by civil conflict for thirty years, Egypt did not care and neither did the Arab League. Instead, it was Ethiopia that was doing a lot to bring peace to Somalia. Egypt would be more than happy to wage a proxy war at the expense of Somalia. Ethiopia is a country that has a lot of experience in armed struggle both internationally and domestically. In addition, it is a country that has strong allies such as Russia and the United Arab Emirates. This means it will lead to a western proxy war. This is more dangerous for Somalia, which recently gained stability than Ethiopia. And that is what the West has always wanted. I say that it should stop being a manifestation of the old stupidity of Africans to get into armed struggle too soon. I am your brother Daniel from Ethiopia
Ethiopia started this Not Somalia! Somalis won't be lectured on wars by Ethiopia I think they have enough experience and Ethiopians know very well Somalis globally have a reputation of being fearless. Even the Russia you describe has a battalion named the Somali battalion.
Egypt we know has it's own interest, but now our interest merge. We don't want a war with Ethiopia but if our hand is pulled we will defend our country. You mentioned Ethiopia has powerful friends? Recently Russia at the UN has shown little support for Ethiopia because even China backs Somalia over Ethiopia openly . The US EU UK Turkey Arab League all support Somalia on this and much of the AU too.
Ethiopia is very isolated and the UAE dumped it now after getting Ethiopia into trouble offering zero diplomatic support even .
Ethiopia is falling apart it's in a serious civil war and Abi can't even leave Addis. If Ethiopia falls apart the first to be affects with millions of refugees is Somalia! We don't want war in Ethiopia.
We had preferred a peaceful relationship that benefits both and we wanted Ethiopia to use Somali ports like they do in Djibouti.
I do hope people there find a new leadership and peace and the war there ends and it stops this distracting dangerous agenda of Abi
This guy is Daarood who supports the Somalia Case. He is just like Farah Mu’alim. I am sure the Panel knows the History of Somaliland. It’s never been part of Somalia. Somalia was divided to portions. This guy and his likes are even dreaming to annex all five portions of Somali inhabited lands. This includes NDF and Ethiopia. Somaliland don’t agree with them. The people from Somalia including your guest’s main focus is about Ethiopia giving recognition to Somaliland, because that works against their expansionist mind. Kenya be careful.
Nothing mistake bro
Professor Kagwanja's theory about Dr Abiy trying to creating an empire is outrageous and over stretched imagination. The prediction is an illusion to say the least.
Attempts to portray Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed as harboring imperialistic ambitions are malicious and seek to undermine Ethiopia's efforts towards regional integration and harmony.
Amhara Fano will eliminate Abiy and once again Ethiopia will be playing a constructive role. Abiy is finished internally and wants to change that reality by attracting external conflict and eliminate any meaningful transition.
even part of ethiopia in kenya isiolo we com for itti
Africans must solve Africa's problems....We don't United State/Western Forces...
And if Ethiopia want recognise somaliland we will demand West somalia or somali Ethiopia
Let us see who wins
You should have included people who could present Somaliland's and Ethiopia's side. Absurd pannel
Ethiopia stands firm in its dedication to Horn of Africa integration through trade, energy, and infrastructure projects. Claims of a "Kush Empire" agenda by H.E PM Abiy Ahmed are baseless and aimed at sowing discord.
Somaliland state of somalia 🇸🇴
In your dreams 😂😂 viva Somaliland Republic the envious destroyers 😂
These so-called 'experts' seem to lack understanding of regional politics. They claim Abiy Ahmed is ambitious, much like his predecessors in Ethiopia. However, what they fail to recognize is that the idea for the Nile dam originated during the reign of His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie. Construction began a decade ago and is now 90% complete. Consequently, Ethiopia will inevitably gain control of the port. Egypt, a nation we've known for centuries, often roars like a toothless lion, proving ineffective in action. As for Somalia, they are not even on the same level as Ethiopia to be considered a significant contender.
One month later what has Ethiopia achieved? Somalia humiliated Ethiopia on the world 🌎🌍 stage leaving Ethiopia isolated, plus it now signed a maritime deal with Turkey. Which will provide warships and drones and Qatar will provide F16 so will the US. Somalia always dominated the Horn of Africa and kept Ethiopia landlocked and it will stay so forever!
Somalia 🇸🇴 is drilling oil 🛢️ this year and with the turkey deal secured it's sea. Turkey is NATO second largest military. The US is building 5 new bases inside Somalia.
Ethiopia is a failed state! With a dictator killing his own people and now provoking the region and international community. Somalia will be a very rich country soon with lots of oil revenue and the second most powerful military in Africa after Egypt within a few years .
Ethiopia ruined the friendship. It likely will break apart as people deserve peace and prosperity there .
As a matter of fact, Somaliland is not a break away region, but it gained its dependent from Britain on June 26 1960 and recognized more than 34 counters included USA.
Somalia and Somaliland were equal separate sovereign states, united in 1960 and the unification treaty was canceled when the Siyad Bare regime failed due to force majeure event.
Since then, Somaliland has been a de facto state for 34 years now, there for it has the right to enter into international agreement .
Somalia ignores the principles of statehood and the colonial sovereignty that were stated in Cairo declaration in 1964.
So what was Somaliland called before the British came? Somaliland has no chance of being independent now SSC is gone and now Muse Bixi wants to give away Awdals sea.
The somaliland name is dead you might as well call it isaaqland now.
That’s why muse bixi panicked and gave Ethiopia this deal. Guess what the next war will be?
UAE,Ethiopia...with whom deal happend to use Berbera port? SOMALIA OR SOMALILAND?.....
Somaliland made a deal with Ethiopia
Somalia❤
Somaliland rep. Is not somalia= Totally two different countries whit different history, culture and colony,, independent day 26th juun 1960 from great pritain,, The World with peace, unity and love,, watching from berbera somaliland rep..
Nobody is interested in your story!
No body think about kush empire, if it’s Cush, the entire black population are from kush. We need access to the see no matter what. Ethiopian support Kenyaan at the time of their need. Because we are brothers, Keniya should do the same things. Do you know we are paying or 2 billion dollars per year for aport. No country will do that.
all blacks are not kush.
Abiy is A mad man he will distroy HOA
Someone is trying to make good on possible promise made on being given 4$$$$$$$$ dollars
ethiopia will have its own port whether you like it or hate it.
You gonna give them our land
Selfish
Ethiopia is a Landlocked Country and stays that way.
@@raghedanan3959 let’s wait and see who’s word would out shine ✨ Ethiopia the super power of Africa.
@@ahmedinahmed9250 Super Power 🤣🤣🤣 can’t even handle the unrest or the civil war that is going on there.
@@ahmedinahmed9250Haha Abi Ahmed can't even leave Addis anymore! One month on who has the last laugh and shown they have the world 🌎🌍 on their side ? Ethiopia is a failed state now while Somalia rises
ethiopia will prove you wrong.
Talk, Talk and continue talking nonessential talk, Ethiopia and Somaliland will realize their dream. Even Kenya is jealous about the deal.
Kenya can never oppose Ethiopia. The two countries are joined at the hip.
So what? Its we have been relativly stable for over 30 years since leaving the failed union with italia Somalia. Every country has to focus in their interests.
As border countries to Somalia: kenya, ethiopia and Somaliand must engage in trilateral discusions on common matters pertaining to security and trade.
So by that logic Khatumostate left and Awdal state left so saylac its not yours to sale and change the name to isaaqland since its one tribe 2 million max and let's see if that becomes the lala land
@@liveyourlifeinlove9273What Issac are you talking about? 90 percent of Issac are against this deal!
Ethiopia is win diplomatic way baba
Viva Somaliland Ethiopia agreement ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Somalia will prevail and Ethiopia will fail
Is Somaliland really "breakaway"?! If countries had a defined colonial boarders they are considered sovereign. Somaliland is NOT a province of 🇸🇴 Somalia. The problem is with the so called "greater somalia" delusion. A goal to take all land of Somali ethnic societies in Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia etc. 😏
Al asisiga masar wuxuu rabaa inuu kadhigo somaliya usha uu kugaracayo Ethiopian tasna masura galeyso
Somalia are fear Ethiopia will take Somalia like century ago but lucky they take eritrea ans they fought for their country
Ethiopian can't take Somalia! The British gave them western Somalia
Why Somalia go 1000km to Egypt,rather work closely with blood affilated, Ethiopian
Listen 👂🏻 I think you guys never listen 👂🏻 Somalia wants to allow Ethiopia to use its ports like Ethiopia uses that of Djibouti and Kenya, but it will Never allow parts of its country to be taken by Ethiopia! Ethiopia already occupies the Somali state in Ethiopia, so this expansionist agenda has failed!
Blood,Somalia and Ethiopia in one sentence. Confused element.
a very shameful midea, stop propaganda 😊
very disappointed by Kenyans
Kenyan media has always been hostile to Ethiopia😏
Because Ethiopia is going crazy
@@theancientsancients1769 Ethiopia is doing fine. Calm down
@@dawg929 Ethiopia is a failed state and not doing well at all! More people died there the past years than in other country from war! That dictator must leave for Ethiopia to get order . He can't leave the capital even and lost control in many parts
One sided chorus👎👎👎👎
A country with over 120 million population cant continue geographical prisoned!!! Somaliland will be recognized and Ethiopia will get access to the Sea Period!!!
Come on babe, Somalia 🇸🇴 is a graveyard as usual.
a very shameful media
Somaliland is tha Country
Poor analysis
It's the time that United Nations member state and global organisation recognises Somaliland’s independence officially.
Each case is unique and deserves consideration based on historical and legal arguments, as well as current conditions.
-Somaliland's supperficy is 176120km bigger then 83 recognized countries and has 745KM Land common border with Ethiopia.
-Somaliland has a strategic 850-kilometres coastline guards the approach the Bab-el-Mandeb,at red sea chokepoint.
-Somalilanders are ready to deepening and strengthening of our special freindship with ethiopia.
-This Somaliland-Ethiopia MOU agreement partnership is most notably.
-Support trade and development between Somaliland and Ethiopia.
-Facilitation the distribution of Humanitarian assistance in the Horn of Africa.
-This MOU includes a provision for an in-depth assessment of Somaliland as a sovereign state.
-This would make Ethiopia the first UN member state to recognise it.
It would give Somaliland what it wants most.
-Recognition would help open doors for international public financing and raise Somaliland’s status in the world.
Let us reject divisive narratives and focus on constructive engagement to strengthen ties between Ethiopia and its neighbors, fostering a future of shared prosperity and peace in the region.
H.E PM Abiy Ahmed's commitment to African integration is evident in his advocacy for energy, road, and trade cooperation. Accusations of planning a "Kush Empire" are unfounded and misleading.
Ethiopia stands firm in its dedication to Horn of Africa integration through trade, energy, and infrastructure projects. Claims of a "Kush Empire" agenda by H.E PM Abiy Ahmed are baseless and aimed at sowing discord.
H.E PM Abiy Ahmed's commitment to African integration is evident in his advocacy for energy, road, and trade cooperation. Accusations of planning a "Kush Empire" are unfounded and misleading.