10 Things Everyone Always Gets Wrong About The X-Men
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"10 things people who have never touched a comic but watch films based on comics always get wrong about the X-Men".
Fixed the title for you.
"Also things the writers of this video get wrong about the X-Men."
Love this
Todd zombie87 there you go
Or "10 Super Biased Opinions sprinkled with a few facts to make it seem like an option is in-fact, a fact" there fixed.
Cyclops is still a tosser though.
1)Jean Grey *IS* an Omega level mutant, with or without the Phoenix Force.
2)Professor X and Magneto are actually friends; when the Professor left Earth, he actually left the school to Magneto when he briefly reformed. You can find out stuff like this from a simple Google Search.....
blackphoenix77 shhh this is what culture they don’t make mistakes
Thank you I was about to type that!
What culture.
The name says it all. They start googling see a line and let it be fact without actual research soooooooo once again What culture do these dipshits belong to?
Well. They did not claim that JG is not an omega level mutant without the phoenix force.. But they are correct that she is not the most powerful mutant.. Without the phoenix force she's still very capable but I don't think quite as powerful as many other omegas.. And it may be that Frankling Richards is even more powerful than Jean Grey WITH phoenix force...
Are Professor X and Magneto Friends.. Perhaps - depends what is meant by "friends".. Dunno if leaving a school full of young mutants to look after is something friends do to friends.. :P
3) Also Wolverine and Sabretooth are half-brothers according to the 2001-2002 "Origin" Wolverine limited series, which predated the X-Men Origins movie referenced here by several years and there were rumors that Sabretooth was Wolverine's brother even before the "Origin" series confirmed it(I remember reading it in a magazine story about the original X-Men movie).
How does a comic book channel get juggernaut and unstoppable colossus mixed up?
Juggernaut isn't a real mutant as he said. He was given his powers from a cosmic being or smth
Oh yeah I see what you mean😂😂
I thought it was quite well known Juggernaut isn't a mutant
Luis Murillo not according to x3 **shudderds**
Judge Wilson and Deadpool 2 🤢
Felix Concepcion I don’t remember him being referred to as a mutant in DP2 only being locked up in mutant jail which makes sense
I actually never knew he drew his power from an outside source. I always thought he was just born that way. :\
Except when Juggernaut is Collossus
Another thing people get wrong is the magneto/mystique relationship. In true fact, they have little to no affiliation in the original source material, where in the movies and some other media they are seen as allies, friends and even lovers. In the comics they have very few similarities apart from running the brotherhood at very different points in time.
Mystique masquerading, for years, as Rogue's foster mother and being the biological mother of Kirk (Nightcrawler), are details the never seem to get mentioned.
Yeah...I hate how the movies made everyone have a past connection somehow like Magneto/Xavier (they had one but it was exaggerated in the films) and Wolverine/Xavier, Wolverine/Magneto. It made the X-Men seem like it was in a little bubble. I liked them having motives outside of the X-Men.
Wow you guys didn't mention Angel as one of the original X-Men. Look at the quality control over at WhatCulture
And at least twice when discussing Juggernaut you showed the Unstoppable Colossus
Jean Grey is an Omega level mutant with or without the Phoenix Force
still waiting for the part where you point out that Scott isn't the jerk, that's going to be a long wait...
Nice
I like you. You know your shit.
Very cool.
Why aren’t you working for them? Hell why don’t you write for them. The narrator is just some jank who is reading from a script.
@@thomaswayne7519 yes I'm quite aware of what the narrator is, I was talking about the crew that let such a mistake riddled list make it to air. So go pick a fight with someone else and have a nice day
Franklin Richards isn’t a mutant.
@@scientia.veritas Spider-man is a mutate. Not a mutant.
the early and mid 90s were the best era. cuz if you grew up and followed the xmen in this era, you wouldnt need this video at all
(for the most part)
@Vipul Doshi\ i AGREE with your sentiment! Although Jim Lee was a magnificent artist, he wanted to take the series backward while Claremont wanted to keep looking forward! I was one of those Claremont\Byrne Era fans who stopped reading X-Men after Byrne left to do Fantastic Four! But after buying the issue featuring "The Brood" I had to run around collecting back issues I had missed! To make up for it, I started reading the Essential X-Men volumes in order to catch up on everything!
That comic really was as great as the "diehard" fans claimed! So, I ENTHUSIASTICALLY recommend Essential X-Men volumes 1-10! If you like exciting stories, great artwork with a dash of social commentary, these volumes are, well...essential! And if you can get them in FULL COLOR collections, grab 'em!
@@pulsarstargrave256 hey man (long story short) thanks for putting the time out explaining everything. i will check out your suggestions/reccomendations. thanks again dude
It was when the best storylines came out.
Lolno. Doesn't even come close to the Claremont/Byrne Era. Post Mutant Massacre was very uneven in quality, and didn't hit truly great again until Whedon and Cassady.
Most of these are basic knowledge, for comic book fans
People who don't read xmen comics always spread these musunderstandings.
For the most part that may be true. But that's definitely not true for a lot of us who never had the privilege of Heaven Total Access to the entire second video of comic books. Too ra clarify I simply mean for those fans who where too poor to access most of the comic books on a regular basis
I'm starting to wonder if we are actually considered people. Because there are so many of these "people get wrong" and "surprising facts" videos and a lot of the info is not obscure knowledge at all to me.
This video is flawed on so many levels.
1. Angel was also one of the original X-men.
2. Why is Colossus being pictured for Juggernaut?
3. Everyone who reads X-men comics knows that Juggernaut is not a mutant.
4. Scott summers is most DEFINITELY a jerk!
5. Erik and Xavier were always friends.
Omega level mutant: A mutant being who has vast control over matter and energy and possess the power to endanger the world. They could also potentially become beings of pure psychic energy.
6. Jean Grey is omega level mutant. With the Phoenix Force she's beyond omega level.
7. Emma Frost is only an omega level mutant on Earth 295. Being an Omega level telepath does not necessitate a character is an Omega level mutant, though.
He also says X23 is Logan's daughter she is his modified clone.
1. Scott isn't a jerk he's a just really strict
2. Emma is omega level
5:01 That is exactly why I hate every X Men movie with Wolverine. He don't have to be main character. He doesn't have to get maximum screen time. I want to see Emma Frost, Cyclops, Kitty Pryde, Beast, Gambit, Rogue... etc. I want to see these characters their personas, their stories. I want to see X Men not Wolverine and others..
And before you say anything I gotta say, I actually like Wolverine. Logan is the one of the best superhero movies for me. But I don't like when he steals all the screentime of all X Men in X Men movies, but in Wolverine Movies (Orgins, Japan,Logan) are fine for me
Well, they kinda do if the general public likes Wolverine the most and it seems like they do. Don't get me wrong, the others should have a chance to shine but Wolverine's really popular. He's almost as, if not as, mainstream as the likes of Spider-Man.
Studios are in the business of making money. If Wolverine makes them the most money, Wolverine gets top bill.
Glad to see someone who shares this opinion. I even got into an argument with a fan on Instagram because he refused to accept the idea of the new Dark Phoenix movie not having Wolverine in it.
Well unfortunately until they get really good writers that don’t take liberties ( which will never happen ) you probably won’t see that type of XMen movie the same way you will never see a good FF movie, if writers don’t stick to cannon that’s what happens.
Because he’s the most popular and is the main guy. People will watch movies because of him being in it. Simple as that
Emma Frost is not an omega-level mutant, by far. Jean was one of the first omega level mutants mentioned.
at some point while Jean was dead the comics started calling Emma an omega-level psychic because someone needed to fill the void.
Mike J and she probably is an omega-level psychic, but not an omega-level mutant.
I love Xmen red. I like how Jean Grey is now separated from the Phoenix but remains such a powerful character
X-Men were my introduction into Marvel, which I will always love slightly more then DC. An the X-Men will always be one of my Marvel favorites as a result, and they stay relevant in so many ways even tho some of the recent story twists I am not a fan of.
Tbh I always thought X-Man was the most powerful mutant, because Franklin ALWAYS slips from my mind somehow
I was wondering where Nathaniel Grey was in this? He was said to be the most powerful mutant in his storylines even if he is from an alternate dimension and let's not forget apocolypse??? Wasn't he the first mutant and it always takes all of these other mutants "Omega" or not to defeat him???
Whilst it's true that Wolverine and Sabertooth are not brothers in the comics, it's not entirely correct to say that they're not related there. Chris Claremont had plans for Sabertooth being Wolverine's father, which is why he emphasized during his stories that Sabertooth is generally a superior fighter to Wolverine - later authors didn't like this idea and retconned Sabertooth's claims of being Wolverine's dad to just a side-effect of the mind-tinkering that Sabertooth underwent in the Weapon X Program. In Ultimate Marvel, Sabertooth was likewise presented as Wolverine's son for a considerable length of time, only for this to be retconned in the same way and for similar reasons.
I was going to mention this. I clearly remember the Sabertooth as his father storyline that was intended, then retconned out at a later date.
Umm the video was great but even without the Phoenix force Jean grey is still an Omega level mutant
She's really not, she's a telepath and telekinetic, she's strong but Omega level is for borderline gods
andyt2k um yes she’s
@@HouseOfBlerd The others are borderline Gods and Franklin is as good as a god, Jean Grey is a pretty powerful mutant
Jean was Alpha lvl mutant in the 90s. Then i remember in XMan during the Shaman arc, it was stated that all Jean Grey's have the power to destroy their respective umiverses. So... I guess now she is considered an Omega🤷🏼♂️
Genki Dama Trunks that may be true, but jean's destructive capabilities come from the phoenix force, without the phoenix force she is a powerful telekinetic and telepath that may be true, but she is nowhere near Franklin Richards powers.
The amount of "Ugh, can you believe these noobs?" that this guy is projecting directly contradicts the sheer number of incorrect facts in this video. Such as the fact that Magneto and Xavier ARE really good friends that care about each other (The Age of Apocalypse run clearly showed that even if you ignore the multitudes of other examples. He headed the xmen and named his son after him for goodness sake), Jean Gray IS an omega level mutant, Franklin Richards is NOT an Omega he's Beyond Omega. There's a difference. And Scott IS a sanctimonious jerk. That's just part of his character. Is that all he is? No. Doesn't stop it from being true, tho. Just like Logan is an asshole. He has other character traits but that's still an important one.
Well Jean's family name is Grey not Gray. Sorry for being a spelling nazi but if you wanna correct other people's fact, better be ready for that :)
Thank you Dr Phil
@@bra5081 I'm good with that! I have zero issues with being corrected. Sorry it took me a year to respond. Damn RUclips didn't alert me lol.
@@mauriceperez1479 I have no idea what Dr. Phil has to do with a nerdy comic related comment I made two years ago on a video supposedly about correcting comic misconceptions but you do you, mate.
Everyone seems to forget the X-Men anime.
I would like to forget it.
Most people haven’t forgotten it. They are just trying to
It was pretty forgettable, to be honest
Why did you remind me of the anime?
@@kamui003 is so bad?
So by "Everyone", you really mean "People whose only exposure to the X-Men is through the films."
Ypu are right that Jean Grey isn't the most powerful mutant, but she is still an Omega level mutant even without the Phoenix Force.
90's was the best xmen era. i stopped collecting a bit after onslaught killed every nonmutant hero on earth.
Wow no wrong lol he killed 90% of the ENTIRE marvel universe INCLUDING mutants this being said it took hulk to crack his armor making him vulnerable
A famous Sci Fi writer was once asked "What is the Golden Age of Science-Fiction?", and he replied "12"...as in, whatever you were into when you were 12 years old will forever be your own personal Golden Age.
So, for me, the 80s was the best X-Men era, and always will be!^___^
@@HandofOmega sounds like asimov. is that a good gues?
Santa is the the strongest mutant
He is not a mutant, he is a Saint.
@@Gamer-lq4wl he's a mutant in the marvel universe
I think some of these points weren't quite accurate. Jean's an Omega, Erik/Xavier do care about each-other both on paper and in the cinema, 90'x X-Men gets the love since it introduced them to a generation in the medium they absorb best (and IT IS the best era! Lol). If I recall correctly in Origin, Wolverine killed Sabretooth's dad because he was a drunk and killed his mom? or Rose. I forget
He kill his biologically father.
the 90's xmen series also featured a lot of characters that other intrepretations never touched. The Savage Land, Morph etc. Lots of cool shit got put on that show that never gets a look in elsewhere.
Emma is NOT an Omega level mutant. She's an omega level telepath. Jean is an Omega level mutant
Santa is an omega level mutant
She's an omega level mutant. Her powers go beyond telepathy.
You failed completely to prove your point that Cyclops is not an absolute jerk,i guess that's just not possible after all!
People have yet to prove why he is a jerk in the first place.
His "point" was that cyclops is MORE than JUST a jerk. So he's not technically a jerk, he's transcended jerkness.
@@kyotaiken jerk-ception
Cyclops is a jerk because he abandoned his wife Madeline and his baby son, cheated on her with Jean Grey. Then when he married Jean Grey he cheated on her too.
That is all to do with him getting possessed with apocalypse... And bad writers MOSTLY terrible writers.
What’s the deal with showing Colossus empowered by Cyttorak instead of Cain Marko?
they make these mistakes a lot. For example when they were talking about the worst Avengers that ever existed, they used a pic of the Ultimates (earth 1610)
That’s from an alternate timeline where he becomes “ Unstoppable Collosus “ to save his sister Magik from gaining the power.
@@briancasimino3734 no that's from the canon earth-616 timeline
I honestly feel like having wolverine and sabertooth be related makes way more sense then them just happening to be mutants with practically the exact same powerset for no reason
I never got why people bashed that idea. I know X-Men: Origins gets a lot of shit but I genuinely thought that was a good idea and, part of why I enjoy that movie in spite of it's faults (and there are multiple) is because it showed me the actual origins of Wolverine and Sabretooth from the very beginning. I'm sure comic readers already knew but as a kid in the early 2000s, every cartoon and movie always just gave vague flashbacks and showed some animosity between the two without really delving into why these two hated each other so much.
I thought (and still think) the idea of them being brothers that had a pretty fucked up falling out makes perfect sense. It explains why they hate each other so fiercely and why their looks and powers are so similar.
Weapon X, dawg. Not out of the question to think an experimental government program would try similar experiments on similar mutants to receive whatever desired outcome. Plus he's generally one of Wolvie's arch enemies. Much like Venom, Black Adam, Reverse Flash, Iron Monger, and tons more, he's just another type of "Evil Version of the Superhero" trope that has remained compelling to this day.
Thing is Marvel actually thought about them being related a couple times
@@bigkon420 Last i checked, wolverine's mom was married to sabertooths dad and....wolverine's retcons make my head hurt, since i stopped reading i heard his name isn't even logan anymore.
I feel like you should read more comics. There is a lot between them that making them related just completely washes out but that is only my opinion
Franklin Richards is BEYOND OMEGA. Get your shit together. Omega level is very different.
So did you forget about Angel?
How about you using Colossus images for Juggernaut. And Jean Grey is considered an Omega Level.
Does what culture not know how to do research? Go to Comics Explained everyone. That dude knows his stuff. Not these MASSIVE POSERS.
10:02
Exactly I'm glad other people noticed this crap
Straight facts
NO, franklin is not the most powerful mutant. There is a category call "Beyond Omega Level " and YES franklin is in this one, so as Matthew Malloy, Gabriel Summers, MIster M (and maybe Clyde Wyncham Jr. and the original Jim Jaspers). The most powerful it will be the one who won a battle between them
Would Legion be considered beyond omega as well? He did kill the elder gods after all.
If where talking about adult Franklin then yes he was flat out confirmed to be the most powerful.
According to the Origin comic, James Howlett is the father of Wolverine and Sabretooth. The movie switched it to be Sabretooth's dad as their father.
Jean is an Omega level mutant tho 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
TreFKennedy yep, and Emma isn’t. Horrible list
You are forgetting that Warren Worthington the 3rd.(Angel) was also an original X-Men
Scarlett Witch is among the most powerful mutants heck she's the reason for the House of M comic story
That 90’s into though....
GOD ITS IN MY HEAD!
X Men Evolution was the first Marvel cartoon I watched.
You are more insightful than any one out there right now making videos about comic books
Wanda Witch
Franklin Richards
Jean Grey
Bobby Drake
Remy Etienne LeBeau
Ororo Munroe
Emma Frost
These are omega Level Mutants
I first got into the X-Men with Uncanny X-Men # 130 (yeah, I'm that old) at the beginning of the Phoenix saga and while I enjoyed it in the comics, the movies haven't done that story line justice. When I saw the trailer for the new Dark Phoenix movie, I groaned aloud. I knew that, just like Ian said, the movie would omit the Shi'ar, the Hellfire Club and the Phoenix destroying planets; instead they would make it into a movie about an angry superhero destroying property. My other complaint about the movies is their timeline, which Ian also touched on. Rogue wasn't a founding member of the X-Men in the comics; she was originally a villain. Wolverine and Storm also weren't founding members; Iceman and Angel were.
I wanted to see the royal guard,especially gladiator.
yeah wolverine was meant to be a one off badguy for the incredible hulk he wasn't meant to last longer than like two issues I think and had nothing to do with the X-Men originally
um...except Jessica Chastain has confirmed she is playing Lilandra in the new Dark Pheonix movie so..how did they leave the Shi'ar out exactly?
Well, that's cool. She's listed on IMDb, but they don't say what character. I also don't see any mention of Wyngarde / Mastermind or other members of the Hellfire Club, so it might not be exactly like the comics. The movies usually aren't.
contrary to popular opinions, I like the idea that Wolverine and Sabertooth are brothers it would've made sense since their abilities and personality are so similar not to mention it could've made their hatred/rivalry much more understandable instead of the Wolverine vs Sabertooth story when it was their genetics that made them hate each other ( if i remember correctly).
11: Jubilee is actually really cool you guys are just mean :(
I was super sad she lost her powers in M-day. I fucking love Jubilee, and her powers hadnt even developed fully before they were taken away. She held a power house in those hands and never knew it.
Her powers are back
She can theoretically create nuclear explosions so yeah, she’s pretty cool
Yeah I did always Love her & her powers were so Awesome. I wish theywould they would have given her & Blink (my absolute favorite) more credit they have really unique powers no one just seems to understand. 💖💜💖
@@kyotaiken She was cool, but I personally preferred Shadowcat and Boom-Boom from X-Men: Evolution. I agree it was sad that Jubilee never fully developed her powers.
Love these videos so much😘💞💞 keep it up!😉👌
The 90’s depicted in the animated series is definitely the best version
My kid wants learn about X men and everything. Here we are watching videos before bed so he can remember it all
Professor X and Magneto were depicted as Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X respectively
Jean Grey even as Dark Phoenix hasn’t even tapped the surface of her power so saying that isn’t an omega level mutant is inaccurate
How X-Men Origins : Wolverine should have ended....
Sabertooth:"My father was your father... we're brothers!"
Wolverine:"Then why do I look EXACTLY like the guy that I thought was my father?"
Sabertooth:"......well......sh*t."
*roll credits*
Nah it ended just fine... after Wade came back in time and fixed it! =)
Honestly, you need a Billboard sized chart to track Wolverine's Backstory, and one of the things Claremont pushed heavily was the possible Sabertooth-Wolverine relation, and if you are like me, once i got outta HS and stuff i din't have time to follow each change they made to this, and they made a freakin lot.
Becauce wolverines thought to be father was his uncle as stated in 2001 comic wolverines origins. Not the movie the comic 6 part series
@@duceeltorro4016 No, not his uncle. His stepfather(or legal father). His "dad" was married to his mother, but his mother cheated on his "dad" with the groundskeeper who was Sabretooth's father and Wolverine's biological father. The husband of Wolverine's mother was not related to Sabretooth's father so Wolverine's mother's husband would not be Wolverine's uncle.
There's another comic called Wolverine Origins which I haven't read, but that comic came out in 2010 not 2001 and it wasn't a 6 part series so you must be referring to the 2001 Origin limited series, which I described above.
@@MatthewWolverine the original came out in 2001 I just google it and then order it to read it again and I've seen the 2010 verion but just figured it for a re release.
This is wrong. I read the comics, and Cyclops is in fact a tool.
X-Men Evolution is my favorite X-Men Show.
"10 Things Everyone Always Gets Wrong About The X-Men" indicates a list of factual errors that are commonly held as true.
This is "10 Things People Say About The X-Men That I Disagree With".
10 things which, by the way, you are pretty wrong about.
How about the fact that Nightcrawler has fur and can walk walls like Spider-Man (they seem to forget this) and that Banshee was an X-Men for a while.
Wolverine and sabertooth are brothers. Half-Brothers, same father, different mother. If you read The Wolverine Origins mini series, which is canon, then you'd know that.
Cyclops is back....thank you Paul, Kid Cable,......and the Phoenix
I'm liking this for the pics of Hickmans FF and Secret Wars 2015.
I would love to see more X-Men movies without wolverine
I'm sorry. But your wrong about Jean. Jean is the most powerful mutant.
The best comparsion you could make between the 90s X-Men and Evolution is their portrayal of Rogue. Both where interesting in their own way.
I preferred wolverine and sabertooth as brothers I think it added a aspect to their dynamic as rivals
Some good stuff, thanks. Many of them I knew but quite a few I didn't.
Why is it ok for Batman to be everywhere but not wolverine when he has a healing factor and can do that 🤔
The Wolverine Origins comic series from early 2000's depicted Logan and Victor as brothers, and then it was adapted to the big screen.
X-Men evolution was my childhood!
Good stuff. Do more of this.
Jean grey is Omega level mutant
In the X-Men cartoon (Evolution, I believe), Xavier says that Cain carries a dormant X-Gene, so despite his Juggernaut power stemming from the gem, isn't he still technically a mutant?
I thought it was said in the 90’s animated series that Wolverine and Sabertooth were half brothers as well.
I don’t care what anyone says 80’s and 90’s were my favorite eras of x men dark Phoenix apocalypse onslaught
Angel was also part of the original team too no?
Twice in this vid, the Unstoppable Colossus was shown while talking about Juggernaut. I mean he has metal skin, so it's kinda hard to get the two confused.
One missed from the list. Beast turning furry happened while he was an Avenger and was completely unrelated to any X-men plots.
Actually when Chris Claremont created Sabretooth in 1977, he wanted him to be Wolverine's father. So yeah, at first they were supposed to be related. It's just that the writers who came after Claremont decided to create completely different origins.
Jean Grey is an Omega level mutant..Let's get it right man
Jim Jasper's and molecule man are more powerful than Franklin Richards
Wolverine also made appearances in Alpha Flight and was treated as part of there roaster as well. This was when he was an Avenger and an X-Man.
Are we not going to talk about the time Santa Claus was referred to as the most powerful mutant ever?
You showed Collosonaut as Juggernaut, and your phrasing implied that Jean Grey is not an Omega Level mutant without the Phoenix Force when she in fact is, also the wording of the Cyclops segment “fought with the Avengers” makes it sound like he fought alongside them rather than against, good video all the same
Jean grey is in fact an omega level mutant
Hi WhatCulture! What do you think of Dan Stephens as Legion? It's now just finished its second season. I have to confess that I found it too much of a mindf**k to carry on watching past the first couple of episodes of the second season. I feel guilty for that but it is too surreal for me.
I thought the comics revealed the Cytorak gem merely activated Marko's dormant x-gene.
The original X-Men animated series' theme song is the chorus of Whitney Houston's I'm Your Baby Tonight. :D
I thought that you had forgot you had this channel nice to see an X embodiment video
Alistair jones tbh it wouldn’t be the first time they legitimately forgot this channel existed
And oh yes, what about Angel? I'm sure he was also on the original team. I remember he and Ice Man both had a bit of a crush on Moondragon, and were often shown thinking the same things about her at the same time, which made me think she was influencing them telepathically. I may be mistaken though; I haven't read those comics since the 1980's.
Len Wein is pronounced WEEN. Nightcrawler, Storm and Colossus were originally offered to DC as potential new Legion members by Dave Cockrum. DC turned them down saying no one wanted to see a demonic hero or a black female character. They already had Ferro Lad.
I wanna see some whatculture fantastic four vids!
I have watched and read a number of quality essays on the x-men, over the years. Not once did I ever see anyone over the age of 20 say the best era was in the early 90s. In fact, I was under the impression that anyone who had actually read the comics were all of the opinion that the "golden era" was 1981-86 (running basically from the beginning of the phoenix saga, through Inferno, and ending with The Fall of the Mutants). That era's staff quit almost immediately after, and the quality was lost entirely. It did have a bit of a resurgence in the early 90s, but nothing comparable to the original movement of character-driven super hero comics that began in the 80s. Its success influenced the depth of character development and social/ethical themes throughout mainstream marvel titles. X-men was a fringe title, until 1982, when it rocketed to the top, becoming Marvel's top selling title almost overnight. There is a reason for this- it had an entirely new level of writing. The fact that it held that position for 17 years of radically fluctuating quality, is only evidence to marketing (or the fact that perhaps a new generation of comic readers simply had nothing to compare it too, when the quality dropped).
Jean Grey was always an omega level mutant. In fact, I think the first time the term was used was referring to her. Also, phoenix force being a cosmic entity extraneous of Jean was a ret-con done when Marvel wished to bring her back to life for X-factor. In the original run, the phoenix was Jean. It was made a different entity so that Jean could be absolved of having murdered an entire planet by placing all the blame on "an alien". How about that for white-washing history?
8:24 - That Colossus, not Juggernaut. It is when Pietro takes the power of Cytorakk from Caine Marko
while i havent read the new story lines u referred to, I will say they would have to be spectacular to compare to the likes of DOFP , Inferno, X-Tinction Agenda and Fall of the Mutants among others. The story arcs are what made the X men from 60-90's. Nuff said
Cyclops was right
Great Scott!
Summerize your point.
60s original stories 80s -1994 best x -men era in comics
6:07 I have never heared anyone say that, everyone says it’s the best for a good reason but only good one? When did anyone ever say such a thing?
I feel like you also forgot the amazing X-Men anime that came out a few years ago when discussing the animated series.
This entire list is basically “10 things when the Xmen movies were different to the comics”
In fairness to the people who see Cyclops/Scott Summers as a jerk Boy Scout...:he WAS. In the 90s, the cartoon wasn't the only media to show him as such, in being 1-Dimensional. The comics my generation grew up with justify this assumption...bc it wasn't an assumption. Idk how much you youngins know about 90s comics, and how we res Ted to and saw 90s comics.
It wasn't until the aughts and AvX that he really busted out of this and fully became more complex.
Facts!
it blows my mind that they bothered to find an Asian extra to be Jubilee, even in x-men (2000)movie, but never though:"hey let's make her one of the main characters."
I never read any comics but even I know juggernaut wasn't a mutant. I also disagree about the X-Men shows I never really got into evaluation or wolverine and X-Men.
Quick correction I stated it was a 3 part series it's a six part series I only read the first three just looked it up it did come out in 2001 and to any where from 30 to 50 bucks a get you a copy I just ordered the graphic novel for 50.
Wolverine and Sabertooth are half-brothers, it was revealed in the Wolverine origin comic miniseries in the early 2000's. The movie did a piss poor job of translating that to the screen but they still have the same biological father.
This vid is wrong Charles Xavier and magneto were friends hell magneto has led the x men several times smh
That’s stretching it a bit I would not consider them “friends” even in the loosest definition but they do have a mutual respect for one another that tends to branch in to friendship when magneto reforms or becomes a good guy for a while
There was a great moment where they were picking heroes to be Avengers. Luke Cage said he wanted The Thing on his team, and someone said "But he's on a team already," to which Logan said, "I'm on 2 mutant teams, an Avenger, I run a school, and I do my own thing."
When they asked how he could do all that, he took a drag off his cigar and said, "My real mutant power is time management."
Give Wolverine to Alpha Flight.
Iceman an Omega level mutant? Legion and Emma Frost, i can understand, but Iceman?
You forgot Angel as one of the original X Men. He was that guy with wings in the picture.