10 Comics Villains With The Best Motivations
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How the hell did Mr. Freeze not make on this list. He has one of the most saddest back stories I've ever seen and one of the best motivations in comic history (saving his wife).
He's not really a villain, that's why. He's just a tragic character turned to evil by desperation, not because he actually is one.
@@yamiryushi And he has a few different origins. BTAS fixed him then Batman and robin ruined him.
I guess but he still has great motivations
@@kylemagaro3163 As goofy as he was, he still had the same motivations in Batman and Robin. No, it was "The Batman" cartoon that aired on WB (before it became the CW) that ruined him. Made him into just some jewel thief with a love of diamonds. Pitiful.
@@Bluesit32 Don't even remember that cartoon. I also don't remember Arnold Freeze's actual motivations, i just remember the puns... Oh god.
I'd like to shout out for The Rogues, Flash's group of street level villains. They all know how seriously outmatched they are against their Speed Force Foil, so what do they do? In a unique move for the medium, they play by his rules. They keep their heists purposefully light, they avoid any civilian casualties or unnecessary ruthlessness. Let the hero have his game, and pick up what they can on the side.
Captain Cold's leadership skills are vastly underrated considering he's one of the few evil geniuses who can get most of a rouges gallery in line consistently.
ArticWolf325 !!! I wouldn’t say Captain Cold is evil, he isn’t a psychopath like The Joker. He has a set of morals. Now Hunter Zolomon and Thawne, in the comics at least, are pure fucking psychopaths.
That's one of the arguments I have for Juggernaut being smarter than he lets on. The guy has enough brute strength to be a B list villain at least, but what does he do most the time? rob banks like d lister because who the hell is gonna risk leveling half the city in a massive battle over a few thousand dollars that are probably insured.
Flash's villains are seriously underratred, in my opinion his rogues gallery is right behind Batman's and Spiderman's.
The Rogues (Flash's) if were good would be one hell of Heroic team. Well own two books where they do exactly that type of thing. Gorilla Grodd shows up in Coast City and its up to the Rogues to stop him and they do. Another they take on Neron (Think Mephisto for DC) and this was a one shot.
Dunno if the nu52 ones still follow this code or not but Captain Boomerang's son learned the hard way not to break it as kicked him into a pit with his black Lantern daddy.
Mr Freeze needs to be on the list
This’s probably an unpopular opinion: but I feel that Mr. Freeze should be an anti-hero because his motivations are strictly to find a cure for his dying wife 🤷🏻♂️
Yes he does
Ok but he shouldn't because that was created by the animated TV series and not the comics (his good motivation)
ISitOn MyArm I stand corrected lol. Good point
We can just switch Waller out with Freeze. The Wall isn't even a villain.
Joker? Really? The Joker is easily the greatest comic book villain imo but one of the biggest reasons as to why he's so evil is that because he barely even has a motivation, he's just crazy and that's it. Think people are just a bit biased and have to find some way to sneak Joker into these lists
hes overused, and if gothams jerome isnt picked as his origin, that makes the "mystery" origin thing even worse
That's what makes him so terrifying.
Yep that's one thing, but i remember that one time he wanted to convince people that one bad day is enough to turn someone crazy and he wants to prove that, because this one bad day turned him crazy, he wants people to understand him. He thinks that he cannot change, he sees world different, but it's possible that he wants to prove something else or he just wants to watch world burn. I'm not saying that he isnt crazy and that he always has motivation, but if he has one it's good one.
Joker is like Deadpool, he knows we are watching and so he wants to keep our attention so he don't disappear and be forgotten (mission succeeded is you ask me).
"I just wanted you to see the world as I do. Bleeding and giggling in a corner."
They didn't explain the Joker's motivation at all .....
Cause he doesn't have one lmao. He literally just wants to cause chaos and admits to it. They only put him on the list cause he's popular.
Cause he's had so many different back stories over the years
@@bisexualmajima his motivation literally just batman thats it if u summarize it
The Joker HAS no motivation. We don't even know his name.
@@toganium4175 as far as names go, Arthur Fleck according to the killing joke, and the new Joker movie, Jack Napier according to the original Batman movie, the clown prince of crime has stated over and over again, he just wants to make people laugh,
Specifically Batman, he's insane, a psychopath, don't expect sane motivations
"Number 10, the Joker. Let's proceed to explain exactly why his motivations aren't the best and often random and conflicting".
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Magneto's goals are so reasonable, if Charles wasn't in the story, he'd be the protagonist of X Men.
No Ozymandias or Mr Freeze? What a joke
>ozymandias
>Villain
@@MILDMONSTER1234 he is a villain. where's the lie?
@@Scarabola Technically, he's an Anti-villain, der
It all depends on ur viewpoint ozymandias he can be either a villan or hero
This is not the motivation I was expecting for Doctor Doom? My favourite motivation of his was that he saw millions of potential futures, and the only one he saw where humanity prospers, was one where he ruled the world.
His ends-justify-the-means approach is super interesting then - even the Panther god judged him to be honourable in his goals.
You had a picture of Mr Freeze in the intro but he isn't in the list despite the fact his story is more sympathetic than most of the others. Nice.
I honestly expected Ozymandias from Watchmen to be number one.
Same!
This guy comics
@Junjun true
Ozymandias is a self-righteous dudebro who convinces a bunch of amoral vigilantes that murdering millions and framing non-existent aliens is a good idea, then convinces the IT god to murder the only one who had the moral clarity to tell him why he was wrong. His motivation isn't compelling; it's lazy megalomania.
@@CasualNotice Lazy?? Yeah right, buddy.
Best motivations and you use Kraven for the thumbnail? Guy is literally just a trophy hunter
Except that's not where he stayed in terms of character. His trophy hunting was a way to mask his own insecurities and thus Kraven's last hunt worked and indeed him returning works especially because of him being immortal now and him longing for nothing more than to die once again. It was pretty effective, especially with the introduction of his family and their dynamic and how he pushed his own insecurities onto his children.
He was abused as a kid and wanted to prove himself.
Kraven ended up becoming all about honour
True
No he is not just a trophy hunter read up on kraven
Always thought that Smallville depicted the best Lex Luther. Made you really sympathise with him and understand his motivations.
Superman lies to him all the time is was his best friend
has his clone brother shot because his brother and dad got along... ya, hes just warped
Uh, one dimensional before Tom Hiddleston? I think you're missing Journey into Mystery. Post Siege Loki was before MCU Loki ever got popular and kid Loki was literally an attempt by Loki to reinvent himself. He knew that actual him would never not fall back into the same traps of personality so he made a new him. And new him was an amazing hero, that was looked down upon by his people from the get go because he is Loki and then had to have a battle of smarts and will against his former self that set a trap for him.
What I'm getting at is that anti-villain Loki isn't a response to Tom but rather Tom is a response to that Loki whom had an ending I'd point out was actually tear jerking. I've almost never cried reading a book, but I cried reading that one.
"Damn me. Damn you all."
That's why to this day people will debate the ending of that series, because it was beautiful and it was heart breaking and a rebuff of the idea that the status quo won't always come back and that such a thing might actually be terrible.
And now Kid Loki is back because... popularity, I guess. Except it's probably just the usual one in kid form because screw the reader.
@@Bluesit32, Journey got it right man. The House always wins. Status Quo always comes back. So definitely screw the reader. XD
Don't really care about so called "comc book" Loki. I'd rather read about the centuries old original Loke from my Norse mythology, who was stolen by a Yank corporation.
@@Onnarashi
I don't really understand the relevance of such comment...
@@Onnarashi it's still Loki, you pretentious f**k
Joker's "motivation" is weak at best & "insert what you think here" most often.
At least he isn't No. 1
weak at best, and goddamn petty at worst
@Johnny Thompson Not at all. I love Joker's backstory, but a character's motivation is what drives them to do what they do. And Joker doesn't have a definable motivation. He just *is*. And the "super sane" quote is give far more shine than it deserves.
@Johnny Thompson sheep, that's all you people are, people who worship the ground the joker walks on, i am so sick of joker getting spotlighted, when other villains deserve more attention
@Johnny Thompson Yeah, but that's not a motivation. That's his main trait/quirk. Motivations are "how & why". Joker is " I don't know how & why not." That's the opposite of a motivation.
Only Magneto, Lex Luthor and Doom makes sense here.
Joker and Waller don't.
Are you serious? No mr Freeze? The guy is only in crime to save his wife and that is literally the only reason. He doesn't want power or money for himself. He just wants to save his wife! And you call yourselves fans of comics and superheros😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
Instead they went with the "comic book character" Loki. I guess they'd never heard of Norse mythology.
Mr.Tiddles, Mr.freeze seems far to predictable for me to be on the list. However, I see what your saying.
His motivations weren't comic based tho??? That was the animated TV series, not the comics.
@@mrrd4444 True, but the writter Paul Dini did have a work on the Comic debut of Mr. Freeze's origin, it is nearly similar to the Batman TAS counterpart, but in a comic book format, which is still tragic yet sad sweetspot heart for Victor Fries, from his childhood to Mr. Freeze.
When was it written though? As far as I can tell, his origins weren't even properly interesting until after the show.
“10 comic book villains with best motivations” Hanz Doofensmithz: hold my beerinator.
Lol
I like the way you described Xavier and magneto being compared to Dr King and Malcolm X because it's so true.. I wrote a paper on the comparison and for history and got an A
6:50 “Antivillain”
Thank you! So many people act like they’ve never hear this term and are so quick to label ANY villain with sympathetic motives as antiheroes
Mr. Freeze should be on the list, he does whay he does because his wife Nora is all he has
Uhh seriously? No Bane, Sinestro or even Ozymandias?? Yet you put _Kraven_ and the Joker on here?!
Banes motivation is literally just "I wanna break Batman's back"
Wow! I was CERTAIN I'd see Adrian Veigt (Ozymandias) on this list! The motivation to prevent the apocalypse has to be pretty high up there don't ya think? 🤔
How did magneto not be put number 1? He has the best most real word motivations
Why is Joker on this list? Having the ability to choose infinite motivations on the fly is just as compelling as having none at all since they effectively work in the exact same manner.
Amanda Waller is one of the greatest people in comics, she’s not a baddie, but she is THE BADDIE
So Joker is on this list since he's "super sane" and Black Manta is here because...he was treated badly as a kid? How does that come close to being good motivators? What about Sandman? Mr. Freeze? Even Francis Grey from the 2004 cartoon has a better reason.
Blackmanta belongs on this list, but not for the reasons stated in the video. I prefer his origin of either being enslaved and forced to watch as Aquaman ignores his suffering or losing his father due to a misunderstanding between him and Aquaman.
The misunderstanding thing is good (And is the most recent origin so I don't know what Whatculture is talking about)
yeah Black Manta's motivation goes way deeper
Black manta is actually the symbol of our frail humanity versus the Autocratic governmental regime of Aquaman.
Is it just me or does he keep mispronouncing ra's
No Sinestro, or Mr. Freeze?
Sinestro Forever!
You missed Dooms best motivation. I can't recall the exact details but. He saw what would become of humanity and earth. All but one ended in total annihilation. The one where he was absolute ruler of earth. He's not out to rule the planet just cause but to save it.
I swear I'm this close to moving to the UK and taking over the whatculture comics channel. Not because I desire power, but because only I can save it.
1) Amanda Waller. Really?🤦🏻♂️
I mean, his list. Not that you can’t vocalize your disagreement.
It’s just so far from what comic fans usually list. I mean, you have Dr. Doom, Thanos, Darkseid. Those last two don’t even make the list.😱
these guys are fucking philistines
@@hermescoelhoneto Thanos' motivation in the comics is basically just a girl, not very unique and compelling.
Not a list about the most powerful or most hated or most popular villains, It's about motivation, I for one Love that they put the Wall that fucking high, She's got some serious issues.
Amanda Waller is a BAMF!!! I've always loved her.
# 1 I really like Joker one of the best villains ever, but he doesn't deserve to be on this list.
# 2 why for the love of God you didn't put mr. Freeze on this list and how he's not on # 1 spot ?
No shout outs for Waller? Damn shame. 😭💙
The Joker has no real motivation, however, Mr Freeze does. I'd say Magneto should be higher on the list, if not #1, then he should be top 3. And while I like Amanda Waller's motivations, it needs to be better shown for her to be #1. She should have a "you can't handle the truth" moment when explaining what drives her. I liked the JL/Batman Beyond "Epilogue" episode where Waller admitted that she has sins she'll answer for one day. It shows that while she's not evil, she may do "evil things" when necessary.
When I saw joker at number 10, I was speechless, I had nothing to say for the last minute
Modern Freeze has one of my favorite motiviations.
They really cannot pin down Whallers physique, it’s up and Down the scales!
Mr Freeze deserves to be on this list
I never thought about the X Men as an allegory of the Civil Rights movement.
*listens to #10*
IN WHAT UNIVERSE IS THAT A MOTIVATION!?
Joker *doesn't have* motivation. That's the point of his character. His just random cause the plot demands it.
Still kinda bland character at the same time too
It's a good thing Mr.Freeze isn't on here cause he isn't a villain he is a scientist who wants to save his wife. He only does evil things to save his wife.~
Tell em.
Yep i would absolutely do what mr freeze does to save the woman i love hell id do worse because i love her so damn much
I like carnage and red skulls motivations. Because in a universe with villains with multidimensional motivations, sometimes it’s important to remember that some villains in life are just evil. Some are serial killers and Nazis.
Your list is bad, and you should feel bad!
R/youngpeoplesyoutube
Wow, reddit
Best motivation and you came up with "Kill Batman" "KIll Superman" "Kill Aquaman" "Watch the world Burn". Wow, just wow.
Mr Freeze? The man has anti-hero written all over him.
more like anti-villain.
New to comics, I really appreciate this list & gives me some places to start. You guys rock, Ewan. 👊👊👊
Unfortunately, this list is complete bs.
You say comics but there's not even a mention of Herr Starr from Preacher.
So Evil that it's terrible.....like hiding the TV remote from your siblings or bringing snack to the theatre
If they hide the remote you just use an app.
@@kylemagaro3163 And hide the phone while deleting the contacts, photos and changing the password that's Disney Evil
Mr. Freeze isn't on this list?!
I'm disappointed. His motivation is one of the best! After all, he does what he does in order to try and save his wife Nora!
Who would dare list Dr Doom as a generic villain?
How is Magneto not #1? I think a holocaust survivor so driven to protect his people from opression that he ultimately becomes the very thing he fights against is alot more interesting and a much greater motivation than "I wanted to put a team of bad guys together to fight Superman". Amanda Waller at #1 is nonsensical
A Guy While I agree, I still don't like the 'you've become what you wanted to destroy' thing about Magneto. I find stories that follow that direction of character development should be more of the character discovering a grey area and somewhat teetering between good and bad more than just becoming what they hate. But still, Amanda Waller didn't deserve the number 1 spot, it should've gone to Mr. Freeze
AnimeCrusader mr freeze is the best, one of the saddest backstories out of all comic history
@@ninjaflamewolf1619 Agreed.
You need to do a movie version too not just comics 🤙🏻
Cool now do a most iconic suer villains list for marvel an DC
Re: Dr. Doom - I remember reading FF 247, where he was trying to protect Latveria from an interloper, as a little kid and thinking for the first time that the villain had a point. I would’ve at least included Mr. Freeze as an honorable mention.
Where's black Adam
Black adams backstory in the new 52 he's pure evil his motives are pure evil
@@Meekkhi Well, with Rebirth the pre-new 52 still exists to an extent. Someone (Dr. Manhattan) just screwed up time, but the before still "happened".
Magneto is my number one villain. Completely understand why even if you don't agree with the method.
I’d tell anyone to read “Loki: Agent of Asguard” great story
I must not know the definition of motivation
Great list.
10 best DCAU adaptations? Including stories, characters and (Hawk-snarl) continuity retcons and cleanups?
For people who want Mister Freeze to be on this list: correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't his nuance and motivation created in the TV series and not in the comics?
It was. And he was massively rewritten from the original version which was just another robber with a cold-gun. Also, while the TV version was imported into comics, it never really became as good, it was just kind of there... and then the New 52 happened and Victor became insane and Nora had nothing to do with him before being turned into an icecube.
It's what I thought! It doesn't make sense for him to be on a "best motivations" list specific to comics when his motivations were TV series based.
Awesome video
4:10 oh god i remember my father befor he died was always reading this to me and since we live in 8raq there were no comics so i keep readin this over and over damn the memories
Magneto, hands down.
How did the riddler not make this list??? He does what he does because of his abusive father and it's purely him trying his hardest to prove to him that he's not a cheat, he just is that smart. He feels the need to prove it with the most in depth and difficult riddles that the world's greatest detective sometimes can't solve to prove that he's not what his father said he was.
I think they don’t know how to make a villain list without including the Joker.
Always liked Dr Doom in the comics
Reading these comments shows me how many people are actual comic book fans and how many people just watch the movies and think they know shit about the actual comics because of it. All the idiots saying Thanos should be on the list are not real comic book fans. The list is about comics not the movies.
*Wonder Twins fist bump*
Agreed, his motive isn't as good as in the comics but Thanos still isn't exactly a one dimensional villain.
@@ItsButterBean1020 never said he was one dimensional, I'm just pointing out the fact that he's never had good motives in the comics.
@@Sheffdawg2305 I would have to disagree with you there, his motivation in the comics (that of being in love with mistress death) makes much more sense and is also relatable, the movie motivation is just stupid and unimaginative, he could just create more food or create hospitable planets but no, killing half of everyone is what he does, the comics both make more sense and is something we can understand at a personal level, he's just trying to impress someone who doesn't care about him and death is using him as a tool to do her bidding.
@@VinVonVoom And how will he create more resources and fucking planets without reworking the entire universe to it's core? He's just a one being not a god.
Terrible #1 and where the hell is Mr. Freeze?
No Mr Freeze? Really? The most sympathetic Batman villain, with a motivation so clear and understandable, is not on this list? Wow. Swing and a miss.
Epic character list.
ummm sinestro...does his job perfect then gets kicked out for being too good?
darrell metcalfe also Red lantern
Waller? Please learn the difference between Villian and anti-hero.
Exactly! Otherwise The Punisher, Spawn, and a number of other non villains could be on this list.
The only way that Waller fits this list is if you define a villain as the antagonist to the hero (the very simplest definition).
Not to brag but...
Mona Lisa’s hands got me rock hard
What exactly was jokers motivation according to this video? Cause i didnt hear anything about him wanting bruce to be the best batman he can be.
he rarely mentioned anything about most characters dw about it
You must have a different definition of motivation than me...
Ray's-al-ghul?
right? what a moron this dude is.
He's english?
I think Apocalypse should be on the list. Not the movie version though. Even though he could single handling kill the X-Men and avengers, because he is so powerful. He chooses not to, to test them all, because he believes in the natural order that only the strong should survive.
This video hardly elaborates on any motivations but just says the goals of each villan
Quite possibly one of the worst whatculture segments ever. Boring. Unimaginative. Poor choices. Great villains but did not fit this segment at all. Better luck next time
No Mr. Freeze?
Almost asked why Thanos wasn’t on this list. Then I realized this is a comic book channel and not a comic book movie channel
I love joker because/but he dosent have any motivation i would put mr freeze there instead
Killer Croc of the New 52 !
I never knew that X Men was supposed to mirror the civil rights movement. That’s actually really neat and makes me respect Marvel even more than I already had. Thanks for that little fact
Stan Lee was "the man" for a reason. He created, or co-created, Daredevil (a blind superhero), Black Panther, X-men (which was an analogy for the civil rights movement)... And the fact he and Kirby aren't getting more credit for Black Panther is a little sad.
Paulafan5 truly a great human with a mentality truly ahead of his time.
Google Stan Lee quotes n be prepared to have ya mind blown lol. His goal was to eventually have a character for each kinda person to relate too ;)
Oh n watch the Gifted, not the best show but theres alotta premise for Stan Lees progressive mindneds in it. Really reflects our modern struggles as well
Motive does not equal goal, motive is why they have their goal, such as being motivated by a need to prove their superiority and find self worth, so they strive for ultimate power, that’s honestly a good reason to find ultimate power.
You forgot one thing about Lex. He lost his hair and blamed Superman for it.
While his methods in doing so are...strongly undesirable, I support Ra's reasons for doing what he does. Even in the real world, humanity is destroying itself.
Global warming, all manner of pollution, political criminals on both sides of the spectrum and worst of all, humans becoming slaves to technology are all very sound reasons for a guy like Ra's Al Ghul to do what he does. I secretly hope for the day a global-wide EMP would destroy all technology for a number of years.
Give us humans the push we need to actually think for ourselves for a change. Instead of having to look for Siri or Google for answers.
Magneto also has a justifiable reason to do what he does. I mean, how would you like it if you and others like you were horribly mistreated by the masses...all because of what you are?
Lex is like that spoiled rich kid that bullies others in High School. They may act like the big dog on campus. But without their money; they're, basically the same as the rest of us. What's REALLY scary, however...is the fact that we've already got a real world version of Lex Luthor in Donald Trump.
But DT seems 100 times more arrogant, egotistical, megalomaniacal and insecure with himself than Luthor was.
Now...Amanda Waller...never before have I come to hate a character in media more than I do her. She's like Lex Luthor but with a little bit of Cersei Lannister's manipulative behavior and narrow worldview with a little bit of Joffrey's sadism sprinkled in.
Like Luthor, she abuses her power and political standing in all the worse ways. Never caring about who she hurts or how many countries suffer in the name of her idea of "justice." Even the Nostalgia Critic pointed out how stupid her ideals are in his review of Suicide Squad. She and Luthor are two comic figures I want to see die and STAY dead
I feel like thi is just a favorite villian list mixed up so the joker isn't number 1
I gotta say, this is the kind of list that no one would ever agree on, no matter who is on it. Even a top 20 or 30 would ruffle everyone's feathers and leave out some great candidates. So overall? Nicely done. I especially admire (even if I don't agree) putting Joker at the very bottom, and a surprise entry in Amanda Waller at the top. Creative, and certainly bold moves.
Kind of unrelated, but it’s pretty cool that both The Joker and Harley Quinn were originally created to be one-time villains. In The Joker’s case, he was only supposed to be a villain for a single issue of Batman. The very first issue I believe? As for Harley Quinn, a lot of work went into creating her character, even though she was only supposed to appear in one episode of Batman: The Animated Series, and that’s it.
My first thought was immediately, "Magneto".
I'm just surprised (and dissappointed) he wasn't #1.
Magneto should be number 1. In many ways he had validation.
the best super Villain motive is one which sees them as the hero struggling against a "evil" system
Did I miss something? What exactly was Joker's motivation? Also what issue/book is the panel at 4:30 from? With Wolverine in it?
Are we really not going to address that the intentions of actions don't justify horrible things? Magneto's absolutely a villain, he's killed countless innocents and killed or tortured just about every beloved member of the X-Men. Sure he may have his reasons, but that doesn't make his actions redeemable
Really? I only remember him torturing Wolverine...and never killing any X-Men (unless you count the one that was retconned into being Xorn).
And as for redeemable actions...he once captured the Red Skull, put him in a small underground room with six months of water and sealed him in. That pretty much wipes the slate.
Ryan Smith he not a villain
So here’s my list (in no order):
-Joker
-Sinestro
-Thanos
-Darkseid
-Ozymandias
-Black Adam
-Mr. Freeze
-Ras Al Ghul
-Magneto
-Lex Luther
-Black Manta
-Dr Doom
why is darkseid and thanos up here
Blaze Legendsword they’re actually quite complex. To summarise them:
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Thanos does many evil things out of his love for the character ‘death’. Including killing his daughter. He also wants to save his ppl which is the side that the movie showed.
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Darkseid is frickin Darkseid (and I don’t say that lightly). He has such evil motives he swapped babies with the character ‘Highfather’ for peace between planets and wants nothing but to conquer and get the anti-life equation. If you possess the equation he’ll either beat the shit out of u for it or go on his knees for it.
@@samansalih6013 .................. he said
comic books
not movies
thanos just wants to kill everyone in the comic books nothing more.
and darkseids motivation isnt even that good he wants something so he kills everyone for it
Blaze Legendsword they’re pretty darn good and if u actually read what I wrote you’d know I mentioned Thanos’ comic book motive is because of his girlfriend and Darkseid’s is just 🔥👌
Guardiann ok but how are they the best motivations? Thanos wants to get laid and darkseid wants the anti life equation. Those seem like pretty typical villain things
I can’t believe people are questioning the fact that The Joker belongs on this list. His depiction in The Dark Knight was truly terrifying because his motive was the introduction of chaos; unrelenting, uncompromising and impersonal chaos. He could not be bullied or reasoned with. He could not be bought or identified. He wanted to bring about the downward spiral of society without actually benefitting from it. He isn’t evil for power or glory: “Some men just want to watch the world burn”.
Straight up how is joker on this list when mr freeze and the rhino aren’t