Hopefully the upcoming op set can have some new cards that would effect the top tier meta like doffy, since doffy have been sitting at the throne for quite awhile. If not every nats all people can see its mostly doffy's mirror match or i might be wrong 😅
Once the promo Buggy eventually releases in the west, Buggy is going to be so good. IMO I'd say Buggy is a Tier 2 deck since he has solid answers of 2 of the best decks (Doffy and Blackbeard).
Since I am in China, I like to bring up a very interesting phenomenon. For unknown reasons, China has very few Teach players (like very low). But the result of this odd meta is a lot of Lucci players winning at the top. I still don't have a clear read on this, whether Teach has a direct effect on the Lucci performance, or........All the Teach players just switched to Lucci 🤭
@@atrocioustcg China has this huge black fanbase, BY Luffy and Lucci, even Moria, but not Teach. We will see whether this changes in op-10. At this rate, Enel will become unstoppable once eb02 hits.
I have not seen any confirmation about it. I personally think (an assumption), that it’ll be locked into Regional participation packs like that yellow 4c Zoro 😭
Personally I have been murking blackbeard one after the other but I keep losing to purple Luffy because every damn dice roll I lose, they open law, ramp to zoro then ramp to Luffy and sanji 2 turns in a row . Im hoping I get one game they don't high roll for once
Arguably smoker is better than Lucci right now just because of blackbeards presence. Definitely not better than Bonney but better than lucci😭 (imo) but I also think when promo buggy comes out he kind goes to middle of tier 3 just because we don’t see enough of him
Idk if I totally agree with that since Smoker is more favorable to blackbeard but I’d rather run lucci to almost any other meta deck. But yeah sadly until promo buggy it’s sadge
@atrocioustcg maybe I’m just biased because I’ve only ever lost when playing lucci but can kinda win sometimes with smoker😭, I do think lucci leader-wise is definitely inherently stronger but st-19 tashigi is what keeps smoker around rn. Plus black navy just cool, can’t wait for that sengoku in eb02!
Smoker is and always will be a worse lucci wanna be. The gecko play is very underwhelming for smoker and if you can’t maximize gecko as a black deck you’re just a bad black deck
@@masterflamewing234 like I said I am a little biased since I’ve only lost with lucci, but I guess I don’t see the difference in the gecko play? Seems the same value to me maybe I’m missing something
@@RmanTCGyour missing a whole lot bro, lucci is the superior mono black (teach is a exception) due to its insane gecko play, getting up to 21 Don value, and at least once per match, it’s simply not arguable, lucci is the most consistent black deck, since you get access to half of your deck by milling them, while smoker you build trash slow, you might not see all the pieces and you have much weaker gecko play. Not to mention that marine build just feels worse than CP most times, Tashigi and sengoku hard carries. And just can’t see why you lose w lucci since it has a good match up against most t2 - t3 and w certain techs can run through doffy and Blackbeard
@atrocioustcg why you think so? In my opinion you can build very aggressive and fast...dofi and shanks are not a big deal and hes a good counterleader to blackbeard
BB is nowhere close to S there aren't even NA results to even prove it belongs there. Sure it does *well* to okay vs most of the tier 2 decks but it loses to both decks in tier 1 with it and loses to most decks in tier 3. That's not good consistency.
damn, blue really is the worst color right now. The two best decks, Doffy and Nami work nothing like the rest of the archetype, one is a constant spam of characters and the other is a deck out, the only deck that plays as what the archetype of blue is supposed to do is Boa, the rest of blue decks are dead, I guess bouncing stuff is underwhelming compared to removing by KO
your data and commentary for so many tournaments makes you such a reliable source. thank you for your work!
Thank you!! I try my best to evaluate all the sources I can find in order to make something accurate for you all.
Probably the most accurate and best tier list for 09. A lot of people underrating decks like enel with its amazing doffy matchup.
Appreciate it :’) which is crazy also because I actually recorded this before OP09 released LOL
Vega punk will pop off one day 🥲
& i’ll be ready for it as a big fan
@@imtrippedout just give us one big boss card. Thats all we need
Shanks is such a prob for vega 🥲 once 7 cost newgate / all those big boys hit the board, its over. WE do need more beefy characters/bosses
@Vegapunksnotdead well there's the new enel but idk....
@Avacadoloco not just beefy characters but some kind of removal at least and more flood.
Betty needs to be higher, currently sitting 9th/10th based on all data out of the sim with favourable match ups into most of the top 6
When someone tops at Nats with it, I’ll move it
What is Noelle’s deck for Shanks you mentioned at 22:04 ?
This one! x.com/dobogeee/status/1861127114709418353?s=46
@ Thanks!
Been killing with Boa. Love that deck
Boa was actually the first OP08 deck I built when Jozu came out. I want it good SO BAD
What is the podcast he’s talking about? Does town? Dose town? How do you spell it
These guys!! youtube.com/@dozetown?si=JIxdoG9M7K1uUVwt
Hopefully the upcoming op set can have some new cards that would effect the top tier meta like doffy, since doffy have been sitting at the throne for quite awhile. If not every nats all people can see its mostly doffy's mirror match or i might be wrong 😅
@@CougarX i don’t think that’s unfair, doffy will 100% be the most popular deck at Nats
Whenever we get the buggy promo card, doffy players will fear buggy
110%. That match we covered with the buggy was diabolical
@@atrocioustcgI’m dying to get that card to wreck havoc at locals
Once the promo Buggy eventually releases in the west, Buggy is going to be so good. IMO I'd say Buggy is a Tier 2 deck since he has solid answers of 2 of the best decks (Doffy and Blackbeard).
Once it releases I’d put it in tier 2
Kat not in tier 3 but yet boa and uta are? Shanks tier 2? Really odd considering shanks has been doing well in NA.
@@warmshower_ didn’t I literally mention in the video how I REALLY wanted to put shanks in tier 1
@@atrocioustcg well... he is tier 1
@ i think there’s a super legit argument for it. If it excels at Nats I’d be happy to move it for sure
R/P Uta not being S tier is a crime (use of sarcasm)
It was my propaganda to win the tournament the other day
Since I am in China, I like to bring up a very interesting phenomenon. For unknown reasons, China has very few Teach players (like very low). But the result of this odd meta is a lot of Lucci players winning at the top. I still don't have a clear read on this, whether Teach has a direct effect on the Lucci performance, or........All the Teach players just switched to Lucci 🤭
I think it’s a mix of things! Both are strong decks, but IMO Lucci is easier to pilot
@@atrocioustcg China has this huge black fanbase, BY Luffy and Lucci, even Moria, but not Teach. We will see whether this changes in op-10. At this rate, Enel will become unstoppable once eb02 hits.
When would the 7 drop Shonen jump buggy be released around ?
I have not seen any confirmation about it. I personally think (an assumption), that it’ll be locked into Regional participation packs like that yellow 4c Zoro 😭
Kinemon in tier 3 but gecko in kekw seems wild, what’s the reasoning for gecko?
@@Nahidwastaken SoS propaganda. Also I just feel like there’s so many other better mono black leaders to play instead & be more successful
RP Luffy is best deck, trust
When that deck pops holy smokes it’s so good
another rp luffy truther 😎
Results say otherwise my guy
@@williamdavis9313 🤣
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personally i steamroll purple luffy with blackbeard, doffy is tough tho.
Dang keep that hot streak on you then for your upcoming tournaments, all the data I’ve seen is Pluffy favored 😳
Personally I have been murking blackbeard one after the other but I keep losing to purple Luffy because every damn dice roll I lose, they open law, ramp to zoro then ramp to Luffy and sanji 2 turns in a row . Im hoping I get one game they don't high roll for once
Would love to know the tech. From my testing bb gets rolled.
Youre prolly playing bad luffy players lmao
Drop some tips brother, I need to learn how to beat pluffy
Outro theme is hilarious
@@cg-constantlygrowing1896 FINALLY someone mentioned it lmao
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Arguably smoker is better than Lucci right now just because of blackbeards presence. Definitely not better than Bonney but better than lucci😭 (imo) but I also think when promo buggy comes out he kind goes to middle of tier 3 just because we don’t see enough of him
Idk if I totally agree with that since Smoker is more favorable to blackbeard but I’d rather run lucci to almost any other meta deck. But yeah sadly until promo buggy it’s sadge
@atrocioustcg maybe I’m just biased because I’ve only ever lost when playing lucci but can kinda win sometimes with smoker😭, I do think lucci leader-wise is definitely inherently stronger but st-19 tashigi is what keeps smoker around rn. Plus black navy just cool, can’t wait for that sengoku in eb02!
Smoker is and always will be a worse lucci wanna be. The gecko play is very underwhelming for smoker and if you can’t maximize gecko as a black deck you’re just a bad black deck
@@masterflamewing234 like I said I am a little biased since I’ve only lost with lucci, but I guess I don’t see the difference in the gecko play? Seems the same value to me maybe I’m missing something
@@RmanTCGyour missing a whole lot bro, lucci is the superior mono black (teach is a exception) due to its insane gecko play, getting up to 21 Don value, and at least once per match, it’s simply not arguable, lucci is the most consistent black deck, since you get access to half of your deck by milling them, while smoker you build trash slow, you might not see all the pieces and you have much weaker gecko play. Not to mention that marine build just feels worse than CP most times, Tashigi and sengoku hard carries. And just can’t see why you lose w lucci since it has a good match up against most t2 - t3 and w certain techs can run through doffy and Blackbeard
Why isn’t Whitebeard good anymore?
I think mainly because of cards like Pudding & 4c Law. Swarm + hand manipulation hurts at the right times
What about PRB Sanji?
Sadly meme tier, as much as I hate to say
@atrocioustcg why you think so? In my opinion you can build very aggressive and fast...dofi and shanks are not a big deal and hes a good counterleader to blackbeard
Can not wait for the Lucci uprising at nats!
Listening to y’all talk was all I needed to know how good lucci still can be hahaha
I promise you, with RG law i lose to max 2 decks in tier 1/2 how is it in kekw tier? Black beard is even a good matchup in O9 :p
When it gets top 32 at Nats I’ll move it up
Waiting for the return of katakuri
Let me buy my 8c Katas first
Katakuri, and Big Mom Pirates in general, will most likely be back in OP11 where the (rumored) theme of the set is Whole Cake Island 👍
@ it really all depends on the colors tho, we saw Black Pudding in OP08 I believe it was
BB is nowhere close to S there aren't even NA results to even prove it belongs there. Sure it does *well* to okay vs most of the tier 2 decks but it loses to both decks in tier 1 with it and loses to most decks in tier 3. That's not good consistency.
Doofy blue still strong 🗿
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Beating BB with moria is easy. Just like doffy you spam out a ton of bodies.
Makes sense
Great video!
Thank you! 🫶
Fire video
@@rawoolz thanks brother 🤟
Purple Luffy depends too much on going first, that alone makes it tier 2 imo.
I feel like this is true with a lot of decks rn, curve preference is huge
People still crying about Lucci lmao
I know like wtf it’s not that bad anymore
Putting Lucci in 2 is bizarre work my boi
How? Deck can compete with most of the rest of the meta
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damn, blue really is the worst color right now. The two best decks, Doffy and Nami work nothing like the rest of the archetype, one is a constant spam of characters and the other is a deck out, the only deck that plays as what the archetype of blue is supposed to do is Boa, the rest of blue decks are dead, I guess bouncing stuff is underwhelming compared to removing by KO
Wai doffy does a lot of removal with Law & gravity blade