BMW 335i N54 Eldor Ignition Coils Install: BEST OEM Option
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- BMW 335i N54 Eldor Ignition Coils Install: BEST OEM Option
A quick video on fitted the newest OEM coil option available for the BMW petrol engines. These are generally regarded as strong coil which should be suitable for some decent power output.
BMW Part Number 12138657273
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UPDATE AUGUST 2020
The car is tuned currently by JSRTuning and its performing so well. Please go and give JSRTuning a sub on youtube. Its mainly n54 racing vids.... i mean what more could you ask for. bit.ly/3dCM60F If you do contact JSR let him know you heard about him on Zeroto60.
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Budget Build Parts List So Far
Turbos through eBay
RHD UK/Australia - ebay.to/2PKAgId
LHD USA/Europe - ebay.to/3hN9awQ
Turbos through Amazon
17T RHD / LHD Listing amzn.to/3efnoDQ
19T LHD amzn.to/2VZuV3i. (these are slightly bigger then mine, i wish i got these)
19T RHD amzn.to/2ZXg0Ib (these are slightly bigger then mine, i wish i got these)
2 Inch Inlets - ebay.to/33Qi9ZJ
Gecko Coilovers - ebay.to/3jrUIeI
Rocker Cover - amzn.to/33caOBd , ebay.to/2TIRQyZ
-10an Line & Fittings Kit - ebay.to/31GFsCB
Trans Cooler - ebay.to/3gOkbxy
Elder Coils - ebay.to/38Izq5R
Billet PCV Valve - ebay.to/3aS7NJg
China Spec Walbro 460 F90000267 (use at own risk, but that is whats in this car currently - update the second pump in the stage 3 setup, failed straight away) - amzn.to/33fqYZ4
LCI Tail Lights - ebay.to/34KQc3L
12mm Bolt On Spacers - ebay.to/2XRRKah
E92 Custom Floor Mats - ebay.to/2CkgEaX
Smoked Side Flashers - ebay.to/2XPyVEk
Clear Side Flashes - ebay.to/2PMkMUi
My port injection was secondhand. But i may switch to a PI manifold shortly.
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Damn you guys deserve wayyyy more views! Loved how thorough the install was and the drive after!
I’m running a stage 3 RFP tune. Flashed via MHD and I’m running Eldor coils and NGK 97968 (one step colder) and she growls smoothly 🤘🏽
Did you run anything before rfp stage 3? To compare it to? It will be a rfp custom tune I used once this port injection is finally fitted
Zero To 60 I ran all the MHD maps from V5-V9 stage 2+ pump gas. I did like V5 and V7 but RFP stage 3 has a lot more top end grunt. To be honest I still can’t decide which one I like better. But no problems so far!
Thanks Good advice. I just got a set for my E92 Coupe. Getting a lot of misfires from older bosch coils. I had to replace my MSD80 injector 5 Mosfet. Easy test to locate the burnt Mosfet/s. My MSD80 has a flash tune. 6 X New upgraded Mosfets from U.K were $16,50 AUD. I had a big problem with a cheap Chinese HPFP put shit in all my new injectors. Learnt from that mistake
Been running Eldor Coils and Bosch Spark plugs, for some months...
not a single misfire yet. 👍
Thats good to know. What tune are you running at the moment? Sorry if i have already asked this, im getting old and forgetful.... hehe
On stage 1 98ron V9 map, will be going stage1+ after this Coronavirus is over hopefully.
The Eldor coils should be able to handle Stage2+ which is well over 400+ bhp
I'm not sure about 600bhp to be honest. Might be a good idea to see if you can speak to other n54 owners with hybrid turbos running big power to see if they are on Eldor Coils.
@@Saif0412
Eldor coils are OEM stock coils on the latest Rolls Royce Phantom which produce 600hp stock!
Reason why BMW went with Eldors' is because of their reliability compare to their past OEM coils and are way better stable than Delphi coils!
That's unfortunate that you can't use the precision race works ignition coil kit...it makes the drive so much smoother. It got rid of my misfires completely
Well I’m really hoping new eldors should be fine for the power levels I’ll be running. We will see 🤘🏼. If they don’t hold up I will go precision and I guess a dme upgrade. What coils were in yours when you upgraded to precision?
Before I had the precision race works system I had the crappy Bosch ones. They weren't cut out for the job once I switched to ethanol mixes.
@@thelightning87 the precision race works coils have the ability to create stronger, more frequent, and accurate spark. It's not a secret that they are the best coils on the market for this platform. You're right that coils are a wear item, and elder coils are great! But the difference I've noticed by just switching out coils in driving dynamics is huge and way higher than expected. Plus when you pop the hood it's a little bit of a flex too ;P
I just installed eldor coils and it fixed the little stagger in rpms left after a new valve cover gasket fixed a crazy misfire, at idle, but the car feels crazy sluggish, is there any break in period? The spark plugs have less than 300 miles on them.
No break in at all. However the DME may learn some new manors with the better coil packs as adaptations change over time.
Eldor coils are OEM stock coils on the latest Rolls Royce Phantom which produce 600hp stock!
Reason why BMW went with Eldors' is because of their reliability compare to their past OEM coils and are way better stable than Delphi coils! Eldor coils are OEM stock coils on the latest Rolls Royce Phantom which produce 600hp stock!
Reason why BMW went with Eldors' is because of their reliability compare to their past OEM coils and are way better stable than Delphi coils!
Will this coil work on the N55 2012 335i
Yep I replaced mine on my 2”11 n55
From your own experience did you notice any different between the OEM and Eldor coils...?
Not at this power level. From my understanding, the difference happens when you start breaking the 500whp. Which i have since done. Zero miss fires at 27psi and full e85.
@@ZeroTo60Tube i can see the OEM very reliable pushing up to 750WHP with zero issue. Just more important to keep changing the spark plugs every 10K K. so you keep your coil healthy.
the ebay seller for the coils wont ship to tas! any other places suggested?
Hopefully you will end up running the NGK ILZKBR7B-8DG plugs... 😉
That is the plan..... i thought i had already ordered them, but i must not have yet. I have one step colder in at the moment which are about 4 months old. I do need to remember to get the plugs sorted for the bigger turbos.
PR coil kit has nothing to do with mosfets, they may share same ground but coils are controller by IGBT chip. Hence why mosfet failure leads to injector cutout on a full / both banks...
Ahhh I thought it was the longer dwell from setting mhd to the or coils which worked the mosfets more. So the longer dwell doesn’t stress the Mosfets any more?
@@ZeroTo60Tube mosfets completely unrelated in terms of controlling coils, although they are on the same circuitry it depends if they're isolated or not since they all share the same dc + and -. But in reality, mosfet failures have been happening way before upgraded coil solutions came out.
But to answer your question, the extra current may cause slight increase in heat in the dme but in no way should affect mosfets. I don't know where the idea of stressing mosfets even came from
@@ZeroTo60Tube its a total misconception, and BL have 'let' it spread around as I guess it increases their sales, its a shame as its just incorrect and msd80s can still blow mosfets no matter what setup you have
Kyle G you are correct but there is no extra current draw with a BL harness or PR coils... that’s the point of the upgrade . The coils are being powered directly from the battery. The dme is just being used as a trigger for them to fire . Back when I got my car in 2012 the first thing I did with Downpipes and catch can was build a harness to run Audi coils once shivs open flash tablet came out . I still had a mosfet burn out due to a misfire but it was not coil related . Mosfets blow because once a misfire occurs the dme shuts off the injector and coil on that cylinder and the drain current on turn off is more than what the oem mosfets are rated for . Which is why it isn’t an issue on msd81s or repaired mds80s.
@@LeeOnTheTrack PR coils don't have external power only dme
Nice!
FCPeruo doesn't have Eldor coils for my kick ass F10 535i M-Sport BMW. I have no choice but to get them from eBay as it seems to be the same pricing to the OEM Delphi's which my car still have the original ones and in need of better coils! My car idles perfect on the needle but it does make a jerking/jolt that can be felt inside and it feels like some person leans on the side of the car pushing the car a bit. its annoying, hopefully its the old coils as they probably fire lately instantly in a fraction of a second making the car stutter while idling...
It's probably coils.... but have you done spark plugs yet?
@@ZeroTo60Tube The the first thing I changed first since it was giving me a Drive Train Malfunction which ended up being the old spark plugs that were never changed and looked messed up! No more misfires but the Delphi coils it has seem to be the original ones as they are the OEM for this model and when I took them out they look really worn but still fire. One did looked oxidized and another had the rubber tip really curved to one side somehow seem extreme heat caused it. One of them could probably have tiny puncture holes causing spark to exit and touch the piston walls maybe causing that sudden jerking at idle!
Surely need to switch to better coils and get that doubt out of the way.
@@MrLaloman18 - They do - I know plenty of people use them in the N54/N55 engine including myself - www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-direct-ignition-coil-eldor-12138657273
Are these a better option then the Delphi GN10571-12B1 ones? Those are the ones used in an M4.
The general consensus is the Eldor is a better coil..... However the only side by side testing i could find with both "new" Delphi and "new" Eldor coils, the performance output recorded on a dyno with a N54 was the same for both the Eldor and Delphi. Where as the same car posted less power with Bosch, and the best coil tested on the day was a used set of R8 coils.
I want these coils but keep getting told they don’t fit my car. It’s a 2008 335i M-sport (N54 B30 engine) surely it’s the same part number for all N54 engines??
If you are using automated fitment guides. The data large companies use to to blanket fitment data for websites, they probably wont list this as they are for the newer models. Until someone updates the data to show superseded part numbers, you may have fitment issues with bulk lists. All that said this car is in the vid is a 2008 335i with the same engine. They definitely fit. The part number of the exact ones i ordered is in the description, if you want to double check. Let us know if you have any questions.
I am looking for a set for my 2011 BMW F10 535i. Where do you get it from? Fcpeuro don't have it for my car also.
@@ceddy1031 this is where we ordered them from. ebay.to/3al5miv
@@ZeroTo60Tube will this fit my 2011 f10 535i?
@@ceddy1031 yes, it sure will.
Are you still running this coils?
Yeaj
Be great if my issue is coil related, that was so easy ☺
We’ll know shortly. As soon as that cable arrives anyway!
Hi, I’m curious. I am seeing conflicting info! Users are saying Delphi (S55 coils) are the new Eldors?? Interested if/where you heard different! Thank you & have a blessed day!
Hi David, until a month or so ago, Eldors were the champs. However the only time i have seen a dyno test, the Eldors performed the same as the Delphi. So there probably isn't much in it. The Eldors seem to a slightly better made coil, they are slightly heavier. But then again they could be irrelevant.
Zero To 60 Awesome, yea I've done a lot more research since my comment and it looks like the eldors are used on many high hp platforms like the Rolls Royce etc... The build is coming along well from the sounds of it! I have the same set of turbos going in my car as we speak. Excited to see some results on yours!!
Best spark plugs for an 08 335i Sedan ?
Danny F NGK 97968 (one step colder)
It depends on levels of mods. Like Denzel mentioned, the one step colder is very common, but if you are running 20psi or more and ethanol you may want to look in to 2 step colder.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I'm planning to get my bimmer to the next level but it will take some time due to economic, the question is: I need to get done maintenance for coils and plugs can I start using this ones even in stock mode or they demand other mods to work together?
@@dfqnexxus3710 always best to get maintenance done, before tuning, I would say get your gaskets sorted first, then plugs, coils and charge pipe, then start tuning.
When you start tuning, typically stock parts start failing like coils, plugs, charge pipe etc.
By doing maintenance, this way you eliminate or reduce the chance of problems like misfires.
I installed eldors on my 2011 n55 I guess they are good?
They are 👌
Might’ve missed it but are u running 1 or 2 step colder plugs already?
1 currently. Will go to two step colder once the hybrids go on.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I’ve got an 08’335xi n54, flash an mhd tune, everything was running fine but I found I had a broken boost solenoid so the vaccume canister was hanging so I have a vaccume leak. I’m not looking for big power, but I’m looking to change plugs and coils, is 1 step colder good for me? Or should I go two step ngks)!
Have you got the link to where you bought? Not sure I can see it or I'm blind...
Hi Richard, this is the listing i bought them from right here. ebay.to/3al5miv
@@ZeroTo60Tube cheers!
@@ZeroTo60Tube might wait a while... Aud is trash at moment... Going to cost $350 at moment...
650 whp u'll be fine
That’s what I’ve read most places. 🤘🏼
Will this coil work on n53 330i 2008?
Yes it will