Five fabulous weeping conifers: how to grow then and where to use them!
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- This week on The Horti-Culturalists we take a look at five fabulous weeping conifers that Stephen has planted either in his garden or his nursery. We'll get to understand the two main types of weeping conifer and the specific growing needs of each. We'll also look at where you could use them; from pot culture to framing a doorway to use as a large specimen tree. And we'll also learn why parrots and cockatoos are NOT the best of friends for one of these types of weeping conifer in Australia!
In this video Stephen references a wonderful specimen of Sequoiadendron giganteum 'Pendulum' in Bodnant Garden and says the garden is in England whereas the garden is in fact in Wales. Many apologies for that mistake!
The five trees we're looking at are: Sequoiadendron giganteum 'Pendulum', Pinus monticola 'Rigby's Weeping', Picea abies 'inversa', Chamaecyparis nootkatensis 'Pendula' and Cedrus atlantica 'Glauca Pendula'.
The video is time stamped if you want to jump to a particular tree:
0:00 introduction to weeping conifers
1:33 Sequoiadendron giganteum 'Pendulum'
7:32 Pinus monticola 'Rigby's Weeping' or Weeping Western White Pine
13:03 Picea abies 'inversa' or Weeping Norway Spruce
15:48 Chamaecyparis nootkatensis 'Pendula' or Weeping Nootka Cypress
19:37 Cedrus atlantica 'Glauca Pendula' or Weeping Atlas Cedar 
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I so love hearing the history of how plants are named and why, that Sequoia info was excellent…🥰
Glad you enjoyed it. Regards Stephen
I call them sad trees. I have 3 weeping youpon Hollie’s and a weeping bald cypress. When I visit my cousins in Oregon and Washington state I love seeing all the sad trees. Just STUNNING. My cousin says I’m smiling from ear to ear when I see one. Sooooo beautiful. I love weird plants!
Obviously I do too. Regards Stephen
Love, love you two! I always learn so much in such an entertaining way! Living in the wet PNW, we have and can grow all of these. The house we bought was previously owned by someone who love different conifers, weeping and non. We have at least 25 different kinds and it is wonderful to learn what they are. Thanks again and keep it up! PS This even helped with my weeping mulberry! Also Nootka is a native people group around Vancover Island USA. We have Nootka Roses too that are our native rose.
Thanks for watching and lucky you having all those mature specimens! I'll have to google the Nootka rose!
Loved learning the origin of Sequoia. Born and raised in California and didn’t know.
Fascinating isn't it!
You guys better have many more videos. I haven’t looked yet, but I subscribed while watching this. I cannot understand how I haven’t come across this channel before. My channel is nothing but trees. Every app and browser I have is nothing but trees. If my life resembles this when I grow up, I will consider myself a success. Just need an accent and a partner for witty banter
Not sure the accent is a prerequisite but a witty partner is. We have well over 200 videos in our back catalogue so happy binging. Regards Stephen
I love weeping trees, especially conifers! And this video gave me inspiration to remove even more sod and plant more. Currently, I have 3 with the weeping European larch being the most recent one I planted.
I'm not sure I want to encourage obsessive behaviour! Yes I do. Regards Stephen
I stumbled upon your channel when researching weeping conifers. You two are delightful - can't wait to watch more of your videos! Cheers from Canada.
Many thanks for finding us!
Geez you know your stuff Stephen. What a great episode
Thanks for watching!
I love the stories about the plant names and people! Keep telling them!!
Thank you! We will!
I love hearing all about the trees history and the name changes.
He aprendido algunas cosas, me he reído mucho , y ahora se que existen otras personas en el mundo apasionadas de los árboles llorones como yo. Tengo muchas especies de árboles pendulos en mi jardín en Andalucia (sur de España). He pasado un buen rato con este vídeo. Gracias.
¡Gracias por ver!
I learned so much. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
🤣🤣🤣 I love this video!!! I am pursuing guidance on training a weeping blue atlas cedar when I found this. Highly informative and absolutely hilarious fun! Thank you gentlemen! Apical Dominance will be my catch phrase for the week! 😉
Thank you for watching - and here's to apical dominance!!!
Love the accents!
What do you mean “love the accents” you have an accent not us😀Regards Stephen
Latin + Etymology + History 🙌😍
I love language history :)
Thanks for watching!
From Oregon zone8 love those big trees
Thanks for watching!
I love the latin bits, keep going!
Thanks, will do! Regards Stephen
I've also heard a ginkgo tree is a conifer...which was a surprise to me
It is in its own family the Ginkgoaceae and is strictly a conifer relative but not a true conifer. Regards Stephen
Re: Rigby’s White Pine, how are the weeping parts obtained in order to graft them to the base stem? Since they do not produce weeping trees from seed, are they all taken from cuttings, as from the original one?
I have a weeping Larch which I love, a huge weeping Spruce, and a weeping cross of an Aries and a Picea. I love each of them and each is growing in my garden in a site where it is highlighted.
Just 2 days ago I noticed a Larch seedling growing. Potted up, are there chances it will weep or no?
All the weeping forms need to be grafted once discovered, so you have little chance of a weeping seedling from a weeping form. Aren’t they the most interesting forms though! Regards Stephen
You two are hilarious.
Thanks for watching!
Glad I found your channel. I saw an Alaskan weeping spruce at my local nursery and would love to plant it in a container at the corner of my front patio. I previously had a blue spruce in a container and it grew happily for six years until a deer found it. Do you feel that a weeping would do well in a container? Thank you I'm in zone 6.
I don't see why not as most conifers make good tub specimens until they get too big and root prune in g every few years can extend the time. Regards Stephen
@@thehorti-culturalists thank you so much.
Saw some of these today in Logan Botanic Gardens … superb 👌
Thanks for watching!
@@thehorti-culturalists wouldn’t miss it… I very much look forward to your videos 👌
The Welsh would want it known that Bodnant Gardens is there … in beautiful Wales.
Sorry a slip of the tongue as I knew it was in Wales. Regards Stephen
@@thehorti-culturalists I think it's a common thing. When I was able to visit there with a garden group, our tour guide kept talking about England while we were in Wales... as if it was the same. I probably wouldn't be sensitive about it had I not been friends with a Welsh fellow who had strong opinions on such matters. ;-) I've been enjoying your videos. Just discovered you about a week ago.
@@kathymiller9916 Many thanks for finding us - we've corrected the mistake in the copy with the video.
Can anyone identify this weeping conifer?? We've had it for about 30 years and it's starting to get very thinned out. Not sure what to do about it. It sort of looks like a weeping Norway spruce but is very tall, probably 30 feet or more. Many of the branches are bare but have healthy looking clumps of long needle covered sections near the ends. If you cut the branch there will be nothing left with needles on it. Help! I will try to attach some pics.
Sorry but it is almost impossible to diagnose the issue without seeing the patient. Also we would need to know where you are as well. Regards Stephen
Have you ever heard of a Abies lasiocarpa 'Blue Waterfall' Subalpine Fir tree? I am having real trouble finding pictures of mature trees. Do you know if there is another name for it that I could research? I bought one from Conifer Kingdom because of it's dwarf size but the picture isn't great. I do love the color though. Thanks for any advice you can give me regarding it.
Sorry but I’m not familiar with this cultivar and don’t think it has even found it’s way into Australia. Regards Stephen
Stephen, thanks for taking time out of your day to read my question. I hope it is as gorgeous as some of yours! @@thehorti-culturalists
21:50 Hello, just a word of warning. I'm only aware of one "Bodnant gardens" and it's in Wales not in England. Just thought I'd raise it because the Welsh people find it grossly offensive to be referred to as English. British is fine. English is not. England refers to a part of the UK. But it's not interchangable with the UK or Britian. Thank you for your understanding
Many thanks for pointing that out - we've corrected the copy with the video.
@@thehorti-culturalistsThank you for your lovely and respectful response. Many don't care because there aren't that many of us. But corrections like that mean a lot to the Welsh people like myself. Thank you for your kindness ❤ 🏴❤️🇦🇺
Could you help me, i always been trying to find what the weeping tree at my house is, it looks like a weeping nookta cypress but its really tall about 50 feet tall, and has the pinecones like one, and has the branches like one, can you tell me what tree it could be?
quite probably the weeping version of the Nootka cypress at a guess. Without a photo it is going to be guesswork. Regards Stephen
So I did my research, the tree in my yard is most likely a Post Orford Lawson cedar, I checked the bark, the leaves, and the seeds, looks just what I looked for.
Sir: The mountain range in California is NOT "the Rockies"!! It is the Sierra Nevada Mountains.
The Rocky Mountains are a north-southish range over by Utah, Colorado, Arizona way.
Thank you for the correction. We Australians are perhaps a little rusty on American geography. Regards Stephen
after watching this video for the 3rd time it generated a new question... i went on a road trip to the upper midwest US and visited many gardens. One nursery with a wonderful conifer display garden said they had given up growing cedrus atlantica varieties ....... i think i understand why because two of the four that i have are stuggling to say the least.. it seems to affect them at the beginning of their life when you first plant them. they defoliate almost immediately and seem to have to start over from scratch. I think once they recover they do fine because the two that i have that are healthy did recover but it might be too early to tell on the latest two whether they will make it or not.... if you have any suggestions i'd love to hear them. thanks......m.
Never come across this in my time so I’m not sure what is going on. I find Cedrus atlantica almost bomb proof. Regards Stephen
i just planted one called 'sapphire nymph' about a month ago and it did the same thing... the top defoliated after i put it in the ground.... some of the bottom limbs are fine but the top is naked.... i had a weeping one do the same last year and it is recovering now.... hope this will do the same..... it may be the shock of transplanting from the pot to the ground... thanks......m.
@@MDA-rs4uf We had a similar thing happen to some of our trees (an English oak, an Algerian oak, and a maple) around 10 years ago: the dominant leader in each of these trees spontaneously got sick and died over the course of about a year. The side branches were absolutely fine, though, and all three trees recovered and are very healthy today. They just have a lot more character in their form now (growing more wide than tall, with big horizontal branches well suited to climbing).
All three of these trees were already established (15+ years old) when it happened. Meanwhile, other oaks and maples right by them were not affected at all. We never did find out what it was.
is the picea abies formaek a dwarf conifer?
It is a slow growing weeping form so could be considered dwarf. It needs staking to create height otherwise it becomes a ground cover. Regards Stephen
Looks like there's no way to add pics.
I don't think there is. Regards Stephen
Your best bet is to send images through Stephen's Instagram account.
How dare you Bodnant is a fine garden in Wales not england 😊
Sorry about the slip of the tongue I’m sure you wouldn’t make mistakes when referring to Australian geography. Regards Stephen
@@thehorti-culturalists It's not geography, it's literally the existence of a whole country :(
@@Stettafire Here to look at trees or to whine?
@@mickoz9389You would whine too if it was your country. You wouldn't dare call someone from Pakistan Indian. Or someone from India Pakistani. Calling a Welsh person English is racist. Racism is not welcome in our otherwise wonderful gardening community.