Mr Liquid I quite like your build videos. A lot of people are playing with mods and a very popular mod is:Craft Magic items - a mod that lets you craft magic items using Arcana and mundane items with Knowledge(world), I was wondering if you could make a build with extreme high Arcana: like Elven flame-dancer Bard(because of bardic knowledge) with a dip in sage sorcerer or something, but its very difficult to make a viable build with a high arcana. could you do one if you have time?
WARNING: For anyone watching this video, you should know parts of this build have been patched! Most importantly, you MUST use Sais to get the benefits of flurry and knife master. Also most of the monks abilities scale with Wisdom; taking the class for defense, you would be better off choosing the "Traditional Monk" instead since it gets more defensive stats for free with little to no penalty to this build. Daggers will NOT work with FoB.
@@ArcaneAgent yeah, they are considered "monk weapons". Also, I've heard TWF works with flurry of blows in the game, but it isn't supposed to be doing that.
@@halfvampire2 @Liquid Plays nice Video man and thanks for the Pathfinder content but I also have that question about the daggers not working with flurry(supposedly only with fist and "monk weapons"), and just one other question wouldn't kukris be better then daggers?
Kukris are always better than daggers. But the reason I chose daggers is because kukris would have required martial weapon proficiency and kukris are not listed as a monk's usable weapons. It might have been patched but from what I understand monks flurry of blow works with the Sai and daggers
@@ArcaneAgent Dagguers should not work as they are not a monk weapon: Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When doing so he may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat). For the purpose of these attacks, the monk's base attack bonus is equal to his monk level. For all other purposes, such as qualifying for a feat or a prestige class, the monk uses his normal base attack bonus.
1) you can sneak-attack with ray spells if you are an arcane trickster. 2) sadly, you can't give yourself a Displacement, but if someone from your party hands it over to you, then you can sneak-attack all day, because Displacement gives you conceal, and thus enables sneak attacks.
@@ArcaneAgent you did not. But many questions stay. Does daggers work? Why crane wing? You made a lot other great builds (most are unique but also rogue or caster, and i'm more interested into melee, esp. paladins), but this seems half cocked. Im sorry, there was no offense meant. Keep on your good work, pls.
Crane Wing only works if you have at least one hand free. You wasted two feats just to get an additional +1 to your attack rolls while fighting defensively.
From what I've heard, FoB used to be bugged and worked with any weapon monks get proficiency with (eg. Dagger, Crossbow, etc) but it got patched so it only works with Monk weapons (eg. Sai, Unarmed Strike, Nunchaku, etc). And you don't need a second weapon for FoB; even with one Sai, you'll still get the extra attack with that Sai. So you should stick with a single Sai if you want to go for the Crane line. Also, Monk bonus feats disregard feat prereqs so, if you *would* rather eschew FoB and use two Daggers, then just skip the second one and wait to grab the third for the reduced Defensive Fighting penalty, you can save a feat.
There are a lot of weapons that can sometimes have the "monk weapon" enchantment on them. Honestly there needs to be a blacksmith or enchanter in the game that allows you to enchant
I was messing with a high minimum damage build on paper not long ago. The brawler fighter archetype adds a +1 hit +3 dmg with everything in the close weapons fighter group at 3rd lvl. Fists, dagger, punch dagger and a few other, no kukri sadly. Stacking this up with weapon specialization he had +9 to unarmed damage at lvl 8 I think. That's 5 levels of hybrid brawler and 3 of fighter archetype brawler. Also dipping war priest is a quick way to get better damage dice on a knife master.
Monks gain a 2nd flurry of Blows at level 11 on their main hand if they hold a monk weapon trait weapon, this is 2 extra attacks at full BAB capable of sneak attacking.
I’ve tried this as a Scaled Fist 1/Knife Master 3/Sword Saint. No attempts at trying for fancy weapons, just using Kukri. With three sources of AC and the ability to cast Shield and Mirror Image it makes a very sturdy tank and even has enough skill points to get stealth, perception, and trickery so that it can scout, disarm, and then place itself optimally for tanking before fights start. Absolute dog of a character at low levels, though, and ended up using a crossbow even though the sneak attack was lame to get through 3 levels of rogue to get full Dex effect on weapons.
Barkskin was working fine I think. You were wearing the Natural AC +1 necklace and I don't think they stack. So Barkskin should have given you +5, but you only saw a +4 increase because of the +1 from the necklace. Very interesting build. I never knew Monks had kick ass spell powers like that. I may have to roll one to see what I can do with one. And welcome back man! Glad to see you doing more vids.
@@ArcaneAgent Didn't flurry of blows got patched in 1.1? There was a bug that you could used it with any weapon but it doesn't work with daggers anymore.
That weapon list is for all "named" Sai, and so yes there is only three. The number of random +1+2+3+4+5, Frost/Fire/Holy, et cetera is the same as for any other weapon.
Don't take 2W fighting, it does not stack with flurry of blows: when using FOB you gain an attack with max BAB, you also gain attacks with haste and other buffs but you do not gain an attack for using 2 weapons. Just wield 1 dagger and you will have no penalty on your attack bonus, plus you will use only your best dagger. (and save 2 feats for other things)
Hey man, nice to see another video :D Have you played around with a Kineticist Knight but using two handed weapon and going str + whatever you can boost yourself up with using the kineticist bonuses you can accumulate? I had some fun with that and you can create quite the interesting character hehe. Lots of DR, and stat bonuses as you level up! (EDIT: and of course, I hope all is well in life.)
See I need to dork with the kineticist . But,first I have to build what comes to my crazy stupid build list mind. Right now ive got a hilarious build that might be awesome, and people are,gonna hate it
Hello Arcane agent hope you okay I’m playing this game at ps4 console so i don’t have the mods for my characters Can you make Kama user build? I can’t find it anywhere even in internet lol Oh and do you have good slayer build? Sorry if my english is bad this is not my first language I hope you have a good day🤗🤗
Arcane Agent thanks for the fast reply! I really love Rouge and lots of my mercenary is using your builds! In ps 4 with the new updates i can respec my main characters.I really want tO play with kama But i don’t know how tO make the build lol I’m planning tO use this dagger Monk build with Kama but i don’t know how tO make it😰 Can you give me some pointers? I can only use the respec service 3 times for free lol.So i’m not taking chances😓 Oh i really love slayer deliverer too Can you make it norgober diety with Shortsword? I can’t find many builds in internet with shortsword is that weapon bad? Sorry if i’m asking a lot lol. i noticed you didn’t make builds video for awhile Glad tO see you okay though😃
Thing that gets me is that they change weapon damage down a size, though the weapon itself doesn’t change size, if you’re a small character - but isn’t that why you get str negs? So a giant using a long sword doesn’t make it it grow a cat - it’s a dagger to them that does 1d8 dam. A pair of 1d6 nunchucks don’t become 1d4 just because a halfling picks them up - they are considered large to them, rather than medium, but that is essentially the only difference Hitting small PCs with str mods and dam mods is double dipping
i saw a similard build on the Fextralife channel (i think it was either the youtube channel or the wiki page) called thousand strikes, its pretty similar but uses a sai instead of daggers and a couple different monk skills. I would love a true neutral Druid build, or a monk with quarterstaff build. thanks for the video!!!!
flurry of blows only works with the listed monk proficiency weapons. Dagger doesn't work with it only Sai does. You'd want to go sai with this build. Though I agree that there's not many Sais in game. In my game that I'm lvl 13 I've gotten a Sai +1 and a Unique Sai Heartpiercer
I don't comment much but I must say I love your builds. I just started playing Pathfinder Kingmaker and I want to finish the game 3 times. Now as a Neutral Good Two-Handed Fighter, next as a Neutral Evil Dual Wielding Slayer and then as a full Neutral mercenary party so I like to look at your builds to get some ideas what I would like in my mercenary party on my 3rd playthrough. I hate that min/max stats to 7 or even 5 and others to 20 etc. shit that other people do in their builds. Your builds are the best because I see you have played many D&D in your life and you know what you are doing :P
@@ArcaneAgent Well I think it is good they pick apart builds even if they are critical as they can improve them in some way or to change something to fit their play style more or their favorite weapons etc. Most important is that cores of your builds are solid so if I would like to try this monk/rogue (not knife master) I would pick Nunchaku and call him Bruce Lee :D +1 flaming nunchuku in act 1 would be ok ;) Or maybe pick kukri as act 1 wererats drop one kukri that is 15-20 crit range but then I can't name him Bruce Lee :P Like I just hated Kaze No Kama in Neverwinter Nights 2 because that build was strong only after you craft your own weapons in the late late game and get all the +stats items so it was a weak build for 90% of the game that could not even carry anything... But just a simple Yuan-ti Pureblood 30 levels of Ranger that used STR and had 2 weapon fighting feats from his class was a blast for me and let me use the best 1h weapons for the whole game and he was strong on every level. Also my own build of Earth Genasi using all 2H weapons Fighter(9)/Frenzied Berserker(10)/Bard(1)/Red Dragon Disciple(10) was a great fun for me and probably some people would criticize it but I don't give a F as I had great fun wrecking everyone. And base 36 STR at max level without items and rage is a nice thing ;) Most important is that cores of your builds are solid and I can look at them and change some feats for others to fit MY play style for my neutral mercenary party that I will try in the future :)
@@ArcaneAgent Yeah I did hate Kaze no Kama with a passion while most people loved it :P I think I'm more into playing fighters/rogues/rangers/paladins than anything else :P
So I been throwing around an idea of a set up for monk to be able to fight in combat unsupported. Interested in bouncing some ideas off of you kinda had an inspired by my monk being last man standing against a certain spell casting swarm at the end of the game. I am interested in the possibility of having as few characters as possible to go through the game.
Interesting build, i just built it thought instead of Aasimer i looked at it with a Teifling (Faultspawn) and took the same stuff, thought slightly different order for some abilities and no religion, invisibility, or wings. The stats where about the same: STR 10, DEX 18, CON 10, INT 12, WIS 18, CHA 10 thought lost 1 point in dex to get my int up to 12. I would like to see your take on a Kineticist, either normal or Kinetic Knight. plus something with teifling for base race. I have made 2 different builds with Kinetic Knight and 1 mix build with Kineticist and Sorcerer
@@ArcaneAgent true. it took me a while to do the same, but once i figured it out i made some powerful ones. the two knights i made are fire/water/fire built and earth/water/earth built. the blaster sorcerer i made has water element to it so i dont need the shield spell and can do more damage than a xbow/bow with water blast. Fire is energy type making it a touch based attack. Earth is a physical attack thought it can hit all 3 physical types, plus earth gives you DR/adamantine bonus. Water can be either water (physical) or cold (energy), plus it gives you AC bonuses to either armor or shield type. Air can be either Air (physical) or lightning (energy) types. thought out of all the mixs, only double fire stayed pure energy, the rest go physical even if they dont sound like they r physical. Thought some of the better infusions need double primary element to use. here a wiki guide that helped me a little bit pathfinderkingmaker.gamepedia.com/Kineticist
Hi, Liquid. I've been wondering what your thoughts on Kineticist are? I've been fascinated with the class but i'm still new to the game so don't know how to make it work. Are there any plans for the future to make a guide with it?
I am really liking this idea, but in using it (up to L6 so far) it seems that when using dual daggers that I am not getting the extra attacks from "flurry of blows"... Where you getting them when you originally did the build? Did they change something in an update since then? Thanks! Edit: Just saw Jaron's post about daggers not working... so Sai it is... though I am tempted to looking at the other rogue classes and seeing if a "Rogue Acrobat" can be built using monk and rogue
Someone probably mentioned it already, but daggers definitely don't work with flurry of blows, I checked after watching this. Crane wing doesn't work with 2 weapon fighting either. There's a sai that gives you two extra attacks per round, and you'd get 2 more from flurry of blows, so you could use it to forgo the two weapon feats altogether if you want to get the most out of crane wing, which would open up some feat slots. A good defensive stabber, but the idea is kind of just a novelty I guess because as far as I can tell getting a good sai early/mid game must require an act of god, and I have no idea where the sai that gives 2 extra attacks is. I wonder what kind of weapons will be available to unlock for the upcoming infinite dungeon, hopefully a sai so I can try this build out for one of my runs. I think I would limit monk (scaled fist) to 12, get 2 paladin, and the rest knife master for more stabby damage. Early game for this build would be brutal before knife master 3, even if you could find a good sai. Maybe grab accomplished sneak attacker at the earliest opportunity for a decent low level buff, you'd probably want to take it anyways if you forgo two weapon fighting.
@@ArcaneAgent Something that isn't squishy in the early game, that has decent AC and can hold the line without getting overwhelmed. Preferably something that can also deal damage and hit things even if they are playing defensively.
I thought flurry only worked with unarmed and/or monk weapons. Does it still work with a dagger since it's a 'simple weapon' and monks are proficient with simple weapons?
You’re right and it shouldn’t - worked in original NWN too (had a dual wielding rogue monk with a dagger and rapier that did stun on attack - got flurry and dual weapon with -4/-4/-4, -9 etc when your bab was high enough). staff should give you an extra attack too with two weapon fighting, offhand light but it doesn’t (unless they’ve fixed it) - lots of pnp rules that get lost in game making mechanics
How do I access that list you show at the beggining, when talking about going daggers instead of Sai, where the different weapons available from looting/buying are listed.
Sorry I wasn't one of those who sent you a message, but I greatly appreciate you being back, and go with my support ... albeit a bit late ... but stuff happened to every family these days it seems :( Anyways, I'll forget my problem for a moment to get some "liquid" fun ;)
Crane Wing says you need atleats one hand free. Doesn't this cancel out, when duel wielding? And thank you for actually showing equipment. Almost no other build guides show equipment option.
@@ArcaneAgent Ahh, yes, ty. I see that alot, and kept thinking it was such a waste. Particularly all the unarmed feats, and powers. I see now. I still haven't actually sat down, and looked at the list of feats required, to unlock further feats. Only discovered today, because of your videos, that skills were also a requirement to unlock feats. 250hrs in this game, and still feel like I'm only scratching the surface.
I havent gotten to rushlight yet I guess. My point is that I mainly try not to make a build that hopes it will find amazing crossbows, or greataxes. Unless youve played through the game and remember exactly where you can find that +5 vampiric longsword, I try to make my builds quite generic
Glad your back, I hope all is getting better for you and your family. I really like all the videos you put up on Kingmaker. I know it's a lot of hard work. but keep on keeping on.
Also if you want to take some Paladin levels, use kukri since you have martial weapons proficiency, there are some fine magic kukris in the game and the critical range can help you add some crippling criticals for example.
Liquid plays to the rescue. Good video. Wanted to try a similar build. Ended in a two weapon fighter with knives master but with ranger instead of monk. For some weird rule raesons that guy could never connect a hit. At least the event logs always showed a miss. Do not know the reason though. He had at least better attack bonus than some of the other characters in the group. Maybe the reason was that i tried the build with the hire mercenary feature in the tavern in the capital instead of using the main char. Btw used double slice and piranha strike in that build but i guess your build is stronger.
Hey there. I'm watching your channel for a few weeks now and I think I have gotten through all your Pathfinder builds. What I noticed was that you seem to love Aasimar and rogues :D No problem in that but would you be able to make some kind of build with a Tiefling as well? I love that new race and would love it even more to see you do some nice build with it for a main character. If you really want to make me happy, lawful evil would be amazing :D Anyways, love your videos, take a time off if you need it to refill your energy but know that there's a lot of people who are happily waiting for more videos once you come back ;)
Aasimars are one of the best races. +2 for two stats, spell-like abilities, unique feat which gives you MORE AC, and without any penalty (tieflings has -2 penalty for one stat and +2 bonus to other 2).
another awesome build... like it... Rogue rules....Hell Yeah!!! ;-) Hope for you, that everything is or will come ok for your family. also like the bible quote´s. go on.
No dagger does not work with monks abilitys, it is not tagged as a monk weapon and never has been, thus sai is the only way. I would hope theres crafting or trading in the game that would let you have a +5 sai otherwise why the fuck even bother adding them ? just to fuck the player? Anyhow the monk weapons are - Nunchuk - Sai - Quarterstaff - Kama, That's it.
Windows 10 is awful! I've had the same update, trying to insta for over a year, and it always fails, and has to undo everything. I don't know what else to do with it. Windows really has gone downhill for the last few versions. Just pure trash.
@@ArcaneAgent About the build, some Crane talents are not supposed to work with double daggers. You need a hand free. I also think that using daggers may reduce your damage compared to unarmed damage at this monk lvl. Try a lvl16 scalefist monk STR based with Dragon style combat and hammerblow stylestrike on +enlarge person. I reach 6d8+1d6+27 damage on first attack and 3d8+1d6+22 on the rest. Seems hammerblow trigger once only, eventhough stylestrike should work twice at lvl15. But damage is still crazy! Instead of dual wielding talents you can take cleaving talents or critical related ones or dazzling display bundle or more defensive ones. I like dazeling display for the lore of the character and cleave is not so important with dragon roar. You can get eldritch sion1/ Dragon Disciple2 to get 3dragon bloodline lvls(+1AC, 5/acid resist and mage armor), +2STR +1AC and ability to cast enlarge person and shield. And for the last lvl, I need to test: Either lvl2 eldritch sion to get spellstrike combat casting combo, more lvl1 spells and +1Bab. I think Combat casting combo gives you 1 more attack (even if touch of fatigue is bad it's a free attack). Either Thug to turn saken condition into frighten, some sneak attack and lot of skill points but you don't gain BaB. Seems good with dazzling display. Monk is so fun to play! :)
Dagger Monk Rogue Str:10 Dex:19 Con:10 Int:12 Wis:18 Cha:10
Aasimar Plume-kith Skill points priority: stealth,mobility(3),trickery,magic device,perception,religion
1:Monk- 2 weapon fighting,crane style
2:Rogue Knife Master-
3:Rogue-Accomplished sneak attacker,Fast Stealth
4:Rogue-Finesse training (sai or dagger)
5:Rogue-outflank,combat reflexes
6:Monk-Dodge
7:Monk-Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
8:Monk-1dex true strike
9:Monk-Crane Wing,Defensive Spin
10:Monk-IMPROVED blind fight,Scorching ray
11:Monk-Crane Riposte(or Wings)
12:Monk-Barkskin
13:Monk-Greater Two-Weapon Fighting,Leg Sweep
14:Monk-Blind Fight,Restoration
15:Monk-Wings(Or Crane Riposte)
16:Monk-Diamond body
Mr Liquid I quite like your build videos. A lot of people are playing with mods and a very popular mod is:Craft Magic items - a mod that lets you craft magic items using Arcana and mundane items with Knowledge(world), I was wondering if you could make a build with extreme high Arcana: like Elven flame-dancer Bard(because of bardic knowledge) with a dip in sage sorcerer or something, but its very difficult to make a viable build with a high arcana. could you do one if you have time?
I too have just downloaded that mod. I shall make a crafter build soon
That would be awsome!
I know this is old but I don't think flurry of blows and two weapon fighting stack
I hope they do
WARNING: For anyone watching this video, you should know parts of this build have been patched! Most importantly, you MUST use Sais to get the benefits of flurry and knife master. Also most of the monks abilities scale with Wisdom; taking the class for defense, you would be better off choosing the "Traditional Monk" instead since it gets more defensive stats for free with little to no penalty to this build. Daggers will NOT work with FoB.
Hes right you know...
are there enough good sais now in the game?
@@JimPanzer yes
So sorry for your rough holidays.. Glad you are back!!
Was crazy rough, glad to be back
19:00 Longstrider is an enhancement bonus to movement speed, so is the monk natural speed increase so they don't stack
Bleh
3:30 Not sure if daggers work with flurry of blows in the game, but they aren't supposed to
Are sai supposed to
@@ArcaneAgent yeah, they are considered "monk weapons". Also, I've heard TWF works with flurry of blows in the game, but it isn't supposed to be doing that.
@@halfvampire2 @Liquid Plays nice Video man and thanks for the Pathfinder content but I also have that question about the daggers not working with flurry(supposedly only with fist and "monk weapons"), and just one other question wouldn't kukris be better then daggers?
Kukris are always better than daggers. But the reason I chose daggers is because kukris would have required martial weapon proficiency and kukris are not listed as a monk's usable weapons.
It might have been patched but from what I understand monks flurry of blow works with the Sai and daggers
@@ArcaneAgent Dagguers should not work as they are not a monk weapon:
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When doing so he may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat). For the purpose of these attacks, the monk's base attack bonus is equal to his monk level. For all other purposes, such as qualifying for a feat or a prestige class, the monk uses his normal base attack bonus.
1) you can sneak-attack with ray spells if you are an arcane trickster.
2) sadly, you can't give yourself a Displacement, but if someone from your party hands it over to you, then you can sneak-attack all day, because Displacement gives you conceal, and thus enables sneak attacks.
Hope everythings ok! I kept checking to see if a new video was posted. Love these build vids!
9:49 Crane Wing doesn't do anything when you are dual wielding daggers, since you need a free hand for that.
19:48 It says that you DID sneak attack.
the point, where i stopped watching, he didn't even answered you
I'm sorry I offended you tobias
@@ArcaneAgent you did not. But many questions stay. Does daggers work? Why crane wing? You made a lot other great builds (most are unique but also rogue or caster, and i'm more interested into melee, esp. paladins), but this seems half cocked. Im sorry, there was no offense meant. Keep on your good work, pls.
@@KTanit crane wing was for crane riposte
@@ArcaneAgent now i know. just watched your monk duelist, where you explain it. :) thx
another awesome video :) Quick question. At 9:48 you chose crane wing. But doesn't that only work if you have at least 1 free hand?
But it's required for crane riposte
9:50 Crane Wing doesn't work with dual wield. You need to have one hand free
I believe Crane Wing was required for Crane Riposte, hence the reason for that. Can't remember though
Similar to a NWN build. This is one of my favorite builds. Hide in plain sight. Nice build! Daggers and kamas
I miss HIPS
Crane Wing only works if you have at least one hand free. You wasted two feats just to get an additional +1 to your attack rolls while fighting defensively.
Not really, I might want to not use daggers, or if I get disarmed it works.
From what I've heard, FoB used to be bugged and worked with any weapon monks get proficiency with (eg. Dagger, Crossbow, etc) but it got patched so it only works with Monk weapons (eg. Sai, Unarmed Strike, Nunchaku, etc). And you don't need a second weapon for FoB; even with one Sai, you'll still get the extra attack with that Sai. So you should stick with a single Sai if you want to go for the Crane line. Also, Monk bonus feats disregard feat prereqs so, if you *would* rather eschew FoB and use two Daggers, then just skip the second one and wait to grab the third for the reduced Defensive Fighting penalty, you can save a feat.
There are a lot of weapons that can sometimes have the "monk weapon" enchantment on them.
Honestly there needs to be a blacksmith or enchanter in the game that allows you to enchant
I was messing with a high minimum damage build on paper not long ago. The brawler fighter archetype adds a +1 hit +3 dmg with everything in the close weapons fighter group at 3rd lvl. Fists, dagger, punch dagger and a few other, no kukri sadly. Stacking this up with weapon specialization he had +9 to unarmed damage at lvl 8 I think.
That's 5 levels of hybrid brawler and 3 of fighter archetype brawler. Also dipping war priest is a quick way to get better damage dice on a knife master.
I wish there was more classes
I wish I had a good dm to torment with this. And correction +9 dmg by 5th level :)
Monks gain a 2nd flurry of Blows at level 11 on their main hand if they hold a monk weapon trait weapon, this is 2 extra attacks at full BAB capable of sneak attacking.
15:10 the damage of shout should be based on only your monk level, not your total level
True so like 16d6
Sai is a good suggestion. There is a sai that gives two extra attacks.
I’ve tried this as a Scaled Fist 1/Knife Master 3/Sword Saint. No attempts at trying for fancy weapons, just using Kukri. With three sources of AC and the ability to cast Shield and Mirror Image it makes a very sturdy tank and even has enough skill points to get stealth, perception, and trickery so that it can scout, disarm, and then place itself optimally for tanking before fights start.
Absolute dog of a character at low levels, though, and ended up using a crossbow even though the sneak attack was lame to get through 3 levels of rogue to get full Dex effect on weapons.
Barkskin was working fine I think. You were wearing the Natural AC +1 necklace and I don't think they stack. So Barkskin should have given you +5, but you only saw a +4 increase because of the +1 from the necklace. Very interesting build. I never knew Monks had kick ass spell powers like that. I may have to roll one to see what I can do with one.
And welcome back man! Glad to see you doing more vids.
Monks can get some good stuff. And you are right i forgot about my +1 necklace
I was looking for this comment before I said anything.
Youre the man
there is a magic Sai in one of the gnome encampments that is present when you first meet Jubilost, it's a pretty nice one too
Yes. But in the whole game at the moment there are only 3 Sai
@@ArcaneAgent Didn't flurry of blows got patched in 1.1? There was a bug that you could used it with any weapon but it doesn't work with daggers anymore.
Dangit
@@ArcaneAgent Best to go with Sais but use the mods Vendor Progression(buy Sais) and Craft magic items(enchant them).
Yes. But not alot of people use those mods, but I believe I will start using them
To be honest tusked only worth picking up, if you have weapon finesse on it. There're other traits to increase your damage.
That weapon list is for all "named" Sai, and so yes there is only three. The number of random +1+2+3+4+5, Frost/Fire/Holy, et cetera is the same as for any other weapon.
Tru
Don't take 2W fighting, it does not stack with flurry of blows: when using FOB you gain an attack with max BAB, you also gain attacks with haste and other buffs but you do not gain an attack for using 2 weapons. Just wield 1 dagger and you will have no penalty on your attack bonus, plus you will use only your best dagger. (and save 2 feats for other things)
Hmmm. I'm hearing conflicting reports about this. I must test
This would allow for the full crane riposte line of feats.
Would like to see an inquisitor animal companion build sometime.
Soon. Jaethal build
Hey man, nice to see another video :D Have you played around with a Kineticist Knight but using two handed weapon and going str + whatever you can boost yourself up with using the kineticist bonuses you can accumulate? I had some fun with that and you can create quite the interesting character hehe. Lots of DR, and stat bonuses as you level up! (EDIT: and of course, I hope all is well in life.)
See I need to dork with the kineticist . But,first I have to build what comes to my crazy stupid build list mind.
Right now ive got a hilarious build that might be awesome, and people are,gonna hate it
Hello Arcane agent hope you okay
I’m playing this game at ps4 console so i don’t have the mods for my characters
Can you make Kama user build? I can’t find it anywhere even in internet lol
Oh and do you have good slayer build?
Sorry if my english is bad this is not my first language
I hope you have a good day🤗🤗
Your English is fine! I actually have a paladin monk kama build I am releasing next week! As well as a Slayer Deliverer build!
Arcane Agent thanks for the fast reply!
I really love Rouge and lots of my mercenary is using your builds!
In ps 4 with the new updates i can respec my main characters.I really want tO play with kama
But i don’t know how tO make the build lol
I’m planning tO use this dagger Monk build with Kama but i don’t know how tO make it😰
Can you give me some pointers? I can only use the respec service 3 times for free lol.So i’m not taking chances😓
Oh i really love slayer deliverer too
Can you make it norgober diety with Shortsword? I can’t find many builds in internet with shortsword is that weapon bad?
Sorry if i’m asking a lot lol. i noticed you didn’t make builds video for awhile
Glad tO see you okay though😃
Do you have to use sais now or can u still use daggers ?
Use whatever floats your boat
Thing that gets me is that they change weapon damage down a size, though the weapon itself doesn’t change size, if you’re a small character - but isn’t that why you get str negs? So a giant using a long sword doesn’t make it it grow a cat - it’s a dagger to them that does 1d8 dam. A pair of 1d6 nunchucks don’t become 1d4 just because a halfling picks them up - they are considered large to them, rather than medium, but that is essentially the only difference
Hitting small PCs with str mods and dam mods is double dipping
i saw a similard build on the Fextralife channel (i think it was either the youtube channel or the wiki page) called thousand strikes, its pretty similar but uses a sai instead of daggers and a couple different monk skills.
I would love a true neutral Druid build, or a monk with quarterstaff build. thanks for the video!!!!
Neutral druid playthrough would be fun
@@ArcaneAgent it would restrict the build you made because a true neutral can't be monk, but maybe another class can be used instead?
True neutral druid rogue jk. Y'all know I love my rogues
flurry of blows only works with the listed monk proficiency weapons. Dagger doesn't work with it only Sai does. You'd want to go sai with this build. Though I agree that there's not many Sais in game. In my game that I'm lvl 13 I've gotten a Sai +1 and a Unique Sai Heartpiercer
I don't comment much but I must say I love your builds.
I just started playing Pathfinder Kingmaker and I want to finish the game 3 times. Now as a Neutral Good Two-Handed Fighter, next as a Neutral Evil Dual Wielding Slayer and then as a full Neutral mercenary party so I like to look at your builds to get some ideas what I would like in my mercenary party on my 3rd playthrough.
I hate that min/max stats to 7 or even 5 and others to 20 etc. shit that other people do in their builds.
Your builds are the best because I see you have played many D&D in your life and you know what you are doing :P
Thank you so much! Seriously a lot of people pick apart my builds very critically.
I also stream on www.twitch.tv/thearcaneagent
@@ArcaneAgent Well I think it is good they pick apart builds even if they are critical as they can improve them in some way or to change something to fit their play style more or their favorite weapons etc.
Most important is that cores of your builds are solid so if I would like to try this monk/rogue (not knife master) I would pick Nunchaku and call him Bruce Lee :D +1 flaming nunchuku in act 1 would be ok ;) Or maybe pick kukri as act 1 wererats drop one kukri that is 15-20 crit range but then I can't name him Bruce Lee :P
Like I just hated Kaze No Kama in Neverwinter Nights 2 because that build was strong only after you craft your own weapons in the late late game and get all the +stats items so it was a weak build for 90% of the game that could not even carry anything...
But just a simple Yuan-ti Pureblood 30 levels of Ranger that used STR and had 2 weapon fighting feats from his class was a blast for me and let me use the best 1h weapons for the whole game and he was strong on every level.
Also my own build of Earth Genasi using all 2H weapons Fighter(9)/Frenzied Berserker(10)/Bard(1)/Red Dragon Disciple(10) was a great fun for me and probably some people would criticize it but I don't give a F as I had great fun wrecking everyone. And base 36 STR at max level without items and rage is a nice thing ;)
Most important is that cores of your builds are solid and I can look at them and change some feats for others to fit MY play style for my neutral mercenary party that I will try in the future :)
@@zarddin ah the kame no kaza...
@@ArcaneAgent Yeah I did hate Kaze no Kama with a passion while most people loved it :P
I think I'm more into playing fighters/rogues/rangers/paladins than anything else :P
I loved kaedrins prc pack for nwn2. Daggerspell mage wizard arcane trickster was my go to
I know is a bit late but... why do you pick Crane Wing if you are dual-wielding? It's a
requirement having at least one hand free.
Crane riposte needs crane wing
Ah, ok ok. Thanks =P
Another great build!! This looks fun to try out.
New build Wednesday . a very janked build
So I been throwing around an idea of a set up for monk to be able to fight in combat unsupported. Interested in bouncing some ideas off of you kinda had an inspired by my monk being last man standing against a certain spell casting swarm at the end of the game. I am interested in the possibility of having as few characters as possible to go through the game.
Interesting build, i just built it thought instead of Aasimer i looked at it with a Teifling (Faultspawn) and took the same stuff, thought slightly different order for some abilities and no religion, invisibility, or wings. The stats where about the same: STR 10, DEX 18, CON 10, INT 12, WIS 18, CHA 10 thought lost 1 point in dex to get my int up to 12.
I would like to see your take on a Kineticist, either normal or Kinetic Knight. plus something with teifling for base race. I have made 2 different builds with Kinetic Knight and 1 mix build with Kineticist and Sorcerer
I have to figure out and understand the kineticist first hehe
@@ArcaneAgent true. it took me a while to do the same, but once i figured it out i made some powerful ones. the two knights i made are fire/water/fire built and earth/water/earth built. the blaster sorcerer i made has water element to it so i dont need the shield spell and can do more damage than a xbow/bow with water blast.
Fire is energy type making it a touch based attack. Earth is a physical attack thought it can hit all 3 physical types, plus earth gives you DR/adamantine bonus. Water can be either water (physical) or cold (energy), plus it gives you AC bonuses to either armor or shield type. Air can be either Air (physical) or lightning (energy) types. thought out of all the mixs, only double fire stayed pure energy, the rest go physical even if they dont sound like they r physical. Thought some of the better infusions need double primary element to use.
here a wiki guide that helped me a little bit pathfinderkingmaker.gamepedia.com/Kineticist
I love these builds. doing a 1 monk. 3 rogue, 16 sorc build with sai and at level 5 i was ~32ac in act 1. basically only hit on a nat 20 1/2 the time
I've got yet another build coming Monday. Been working on it all week
Hi, Liquid. I've been wondering what your thoughts on Kineticist are? I've been fascinated with the class but i'm still new to the game so don't know how to make it work. Are there any plans for the future to make a guide with it?
Plans yes. I have messed with the kineticist very little, but I plan to
yes u messed a lot with kineticist! we waiting ma dude we hungry!@@ArcaneAgent
I just wanted to give you a heads up that your about page still lists your twitch account as liquidontwitch.
Well stink. Thanks man I will change that
@@ArcaneAgent No problem, good luck with your stream today!
@@JoshuaCairns I fixed it all, even my links were all old as well
i like watching your vids even though i only get a few things out of them, hope your fam is ok bro
Thanks man! Yeah that was some tough stuff we had to deal with back then
I am really liking this idea, but in using it (up to L6 so far) it seems that when using dual daggers that I am not getting the extra attacks from "flurry of blows"... Where you getting them when you originally did the build? Did they change something in an update since then? Thanks!
Edit: Just saw Jaron's post about daggers not working... so Sai it is... though I am tempted to looking at the other rogue classes and seeing if a "Rogue Acrobat" can be built using monk and rogue
Someone probably mentioned it already, but daggers definitely don't work with flurry of blows, I checked after watching this. Crane wing doesn't work with 2 weapon fighting either. There's a sai that gives you two extra attacks per round, and you'd get 2 more from flurry of blows, so you could use it to forgo the two weapon feats altogether if you want to get the most out of crane wing, which would open up some feat slots. A good defensive stabber, but the idea is kind of just a novelty I guess because as far as I can tell getting a good sai early/mid game must require an act of god, and I have no idea where the sai that gives 2 extra attacks is.
I wonder what kind of weapons will be available to unlock for the upcoming infinite dungeon, hopefully a sai so I can try this build out for one of my runs.
I think I would limit monk (scaled fist) to 12, get 2 paladin, and the rest knife master for more stabby damage. Early game for this build would be brutal before knife master 3, even if you could find a good sai. Maybe grab accomplished sneak attacker at the earliest opportunity for a decent low level buff, you'd probably want to take it anyways if you forgo two weapon fighting.
The endless dungeons should allow you to craft weps
Any solid ideas for a strong tank/ sustain build? I had a straight sword and board fighter, but I'd like to try something different.
Something more fun than just swinging a sword?
@@ArcaneAgent Something that isn't squishy in the early game, that has decent AC and can hold the line without getting overwhelmed. Preferably something that can also deal damage and hit things even if they are playing defensively.
@@ArcaneAgent You might have answered this in another video, but how do you do the fast leveling to test your builds?
Lemme see what I can do
I made a video about it like 20 videos earlier. But there are now easy mods on the kingmaker nexus called, "respecialization" oh and "bag of tricks"
Can we get two handed melee builds (paladin, fighter, whatevs)?
Maybe...
stupid question but, do teamwork feats proc when soloing?
I don't think so but it's something that I might test out
I love Supernagical!
New word coined by me circa 2018
I thought flurry only worked with unarmed and/or monk weapons. Does it still work with a dagger since it's a 'simple weapon' and monks are proficient with simple weapons?
You’re right and it shouldn’t - worked in original NWN too (had a dual wielding rogue monk with a dagger and rapier that did stun on attack - got flurry and dual weapon with -4/-4/-4, -9 etc when your bab was high enough). staff should give you an extra attack too with two weapon fighting, offhand light but it doesn’t (unless they’ve fixed it) - lots of pnp rules that get lost in game making mechanics
I thought you had to have one hand free to use crane style, but your dual wielding in this.
Alright! Subbed, liked, pinky gone and patiently waiting for sorc vid!
Great video as always, had fun watching.
I saw that sorc Cod post you had to edit hehe
Liquid Plays eheheh, that sorc cod would be cool ain't it?
Kinda like Destiny
@@ArcaneAgent sorry to bother - is there any chance that the sorc video is gonna be next? And if so - when? =)
You wanted some abyssal sorc right
How do I access that list you show at the beggining, when talking about going daggers instead of Sai, where the different weapons available from looting/buying are listed.
I has an excel sheet
Liquid Plays I demand a link.... Please? 😀
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSUpOZwVpOeNUjcUEWSPrXKyx-j6A4o1BHQD2c5THLenTet7141EOlFxbFH65C2TjBOXmXd7IcbXsk1/pubhtml#
@@ArcaneAgent I love you :3
Sorry I wasn't one of those who sent you a message, but I greatly appreciate you being back, and go with my support ... albeit a bit late ... but stuff happened to every family these days it seems :(
Anyways, I'll forget my problem for a moment to get some "liquid" fun ;)
Our family is stronger, my wife and I are closer. But man real life hits you hard sometimes
Crane Wing says you need atleats one hand free. Doesn't this cancel out, when duel wielding?
And thank you for actually showing equipment. Almost no other build guides show equipment option.
Crane wing was taken for crane riposte, so that you have a little more ac, and you don't lose as much attack
@@ArcaneAgent Ahh, yes, ty. I see that alot, and kept thinking it was such a waste. Particularly all the unarmed feats, and powers. I see now.
I still haven't actually sat down, and looked at the list of feats required, to unlock further feats. Only discovered today, because of your videos, that skills were also a requirement to unlock feats. 250hrs in this game, and still feel like I'm only scratching the surface.
good to see you back ! missed ya bro . btw you should try a monk/ rogue - duel wield javelin for range . out fires a bow user by far
Hehe dual jav barbarian
@@ArcaneAgent ya but a monk you get your ac up to about 47 :)
There are no magical javelins in the game, only Masterwork javelins.
@@ArcaneAgent iv got a pair of +2 javelins . got them one at a time from the same vendor at rushlight i think .
I havent gotten to rushlight yet I guess.
My point is that I mainly try not to make a build that hopes it will find amazing crossbows, or greataxes.
Unless youve played through the game and remember exactly where you can find that +5 vampiric longsword, I try to make my builds quite generic
Glad your back, I hope all is getting better for you and your family. I really like all the videos you put up on Kingmaker. I know it's a lot of hard work. but keep on keeping on.
Its hard work but fun work
Also if you want to take some Paladin levels, use kukri since you have martial weapons proficiency, there are some fine magic kukris in the game and the critical range can help you add some crippling criticals for example.
Liquid plays to the rescue. Good video.
Wanted to try a similar build. Ended in a two weapon fighter with knives master but with ranger instead of monk. For some weird rule raesons that guy could never connect a hit. At least the event logs always showed a miss. Do not know the reason though. He had at least better attack bonus than some of the other characters in the group. Maybe the reason was that i tried the build with the hire mercenary feature in the tavern in the capital instead of using the main char.
Btw used double slice and piranha strike in that build but i guess your build is stronger.
Double slice is gold
Afaik double slice needs more strength than 10?
Btw, ever thought of experimenting with an eldritch knight build?
Eldritch knight is in my build list, but all of my builds are unique/weird builds.
So I'm tempted to make a ranged touch attack eldritch knight
Hey there. I'm watching your channel for a few weeks now and I think I have gotten through all your Pathfinder builds.
What I noticed was that you seem to love Aasimar and rogues :D No problem in that but would you be able to make some kind of build with a Tiefling as well? I love that new race and would love it even more to see you do some nice build with it for a main character. If you really want to make me happy, lawful evil would be amazing :D
Anyways, love your videos, take a time off if you need it to refill your energy but know that there's a lot of people who are happily waiting for more videos once you come back ;)
Lawful evil tiefling barbarian dual wielding mad dog bite build
Aasimars are one of the best races. +2 for two stats, spell-like abilities, unique feat which gives you MORE AC, and without any penalty (tieflings has -2 penalty for one stat and +2 bonus to other 2).
I know :D Its just that I like playing different things ;) Tieflings look way more like being evil than an Aasimar.
Which is why I believe aasimars are overpowered compared to the rest of races
True. Just wait till wednesdays build
Hey man how's it going, I was just wondering is it even possible to multiclass Tristan into something that's not mystic theurge?
Yes, would you like a build?
@@ArcaneAgent why yes I'm very interested, he's been tough to figure that out.
Doing a 1 scaled fist, 4 rogue with agi to damage kukris and rest into paladin, awesome AC and saves and cuts ppl up efficiently. :)
I mentioned the Paladin save deal, might make a separate build for it though
Lmao i made mine into a slayer/ trickster rogue mix with a enphisis on illusions and traps.
Really made my mc a diffucult opponent to deal with
Damn you make this look easy 😂😂😂
Eh you have to understand some stuff about the game
You still have not done the single most OP starting character :P
Cleric. Done hehe
19:41, you sneak attacked based on the combat log, but you only deal xd4 since your a knife master. I think you have 3 dice so the damage is very low.
Yo!Please do a dualist build! Maby like rouge/fighter into dualist? :D strong shiiiit
I think I did a monk duelist build somewhere. Maybe I didn't, maybe I need to
I hope this year haved much happyness than the pass one ;) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
another awesome build... like it... Rogue rules....Hell Yeah!!! ;-)
Hope for you, that everything is or will come ok for your family. also like the bible quote´s. go on.
New video soon!
no reason to use daggers when you're a lvl 16 monk...just go unarmed and stack the feats for that.
Tru
Your grounded grounded grounded grounded
More multiclass (5+?) builds please.
No dagger does not work with monks abilitys, it is not tagged as a monk weapon and never has been, thus sai is the only way.
I would hope theres crafting or trading in the game that would let you have a +5 sai otherwise why the fuck even bother adding them ? just to fuck the player?
Anyhow the monk weapons are - Nunchuk - Sai - Quarterstaff - Kama, That's it.
Windows 10 is awful! I've had the same update, trying to insta for over a year, and it always fails, and has to undo everything. I don't know what else to do with it. Windows really has gone downhill for the last few versions. Just pure trash.
I like 10 over Millennium Edition hehe
@@ArcaneAgent I haven't been much of a fan since Vista released.
I think its a shitty build. A normal Scalefist monk, would deal more damage.
I enjoy watching you, but really, please stop drinking that horrible thing and above all, please stop advertising it!
Never. I used to drink Mountain dew and monster ALL the time. Gfuel doesnt have sugar, and only has 25 calories in it
@@ArcaneAgent About the build, some Crane talents are not supposed to work with double daggers. You need a hand free.
I also think that using daggers may reduce your damage compared to unarmed damage at this monk lvl.
Try a lvl16 scalefist monk STR based with Dragon style combat and hammerblow stylestrike on +enlarge person. I reach 6d8+1d6+27 damage on first attack and 3d8+1d6+22 on the rest.
Seems hammerblow trigger once only, eventhough stylestrike should work twice at lvl15. But damage is still crazy!
Instead of dual wielding talents you can take cleaving talents or critical related ones or dazzling display bundle or more defensive ones. I like dazeling display for the lore of the character and cleave is not so important with dragon roar.
You can get eldritch sion1/ Dragon Disciple2 to get 3dragon bloodline lvls(+1AC, 5/acid resist and mage armor), +2STR +1AC and ability to cast enlarge person and shield.
And for the last lvl, I need to test:
Either lvl2 eldritch sion to get spellstrike combat casting combo, more lvl1 spells and +1Bab. I think Combat casting combo gives you 1 more attack (even if touch of fatigue is bad it's a free attack).
Either Thug to turn saken condition into frighten, some sneak attack and lot of skill points but you don't gain BaB. Seems good with dazzling display.
Monk is so fun to play! :)
The idea was twf giving you more attacks per round.
But maybe unarmed monk face breaker would be better
Be diverse in your videos brother you have cod followers as well
Cod bowie knife blackout montage incoming