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    Intro: 0:00
    The Beginning: 0:53
    "No warning? No second chance?": 4:30
    Lying is Dave's business: 6:25
    Metallica fights fire with fire: 10:50
    Everybody (Dave) Hates Kirk™: 15:19
    "Metallica, like, sold out maaaaan!": 20:52
    Dave Mustaine VS Kirk Hamett: 25:53
    Dave Mustaine VS James Hetfield: 29:50
    Comparing the records: 30:45
    Kill 'Em All VS Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good!: 32:56
    ...And Justice For All VS So Far, So Good... So What!: 34:45
    Ride The Lightning/ Master Of Puppets VS Peace Sells/ Rust In Peace: 36:44
    The Black Album VS Countdown To Extinction: 38:23
    Load/ Reload VS Youthanasia/ Cryptic Writings: 40:22
    St. Anger VS Risk: 44:37
    Death Magnetic, Hardwired To Self Destruct, 72 Seasons: 46:14
    The People VS Dave Mustaine: 48:20
    Wrap-up: 52:00
    #Metallica #Megadeth #DaveMustaine
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Комментарии • 382

  • @ScoopedMids
    @ScoopedMids  10 месяцев назад +30

    Which band do YOU prefer?

    • @matin5204
      @matin5204 10 месяцев назад +32

      Megadeth of course but metallica is really good

    • @alphawolf8503
      @alphawolf8503 10 месяцев назад +16

      I gotta go with megadeth because there discography is so much better metallica hasn't realised a good album since 91 but megadeth have put out good albums post 90's
      But if you ask me which band do I perfer while the bands are in there prime's I would say metallica

    • @mr.kalidascope589
      @mr.kalidascope589 10 месяцев назад +20

      In my opinion megadeth

    • @elliottoneill785
      @elliottoneill785 10 месяцев назад

      the 90s albums where the only good ones and metallica has released dm and hardwired which are both good albums@@alphawolf8503

    • @GuitarNeckMk
      @GuitarNeckMk 10 месяцев назад +19

      MegadetH.

  • @ponzo1967
    @ponzo1967 9 месяцев назад +175

    As a guitarist if I had to learn ten Metallica songs and ten Megadeath songs the Megadeth songs would take 3x longer to learn.

    • @Taxable_Trophy
      @Taxable_Trophy 8 месяцев назад +18

      Complexity doesn’t mean better 😂😂 I can bet you anything that if it was a competition on making complex stuff, James is way better at that. Dave riffs are simple but just fast

    • @diltberg9627
      @diltberg9627 8 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah so and your point. Just because Megadeth are better at playing their instruments doesn't mean their music is better

    • @ponzo1967
      @ponzo1967 8 месяцев назад +8

      I've listened to a lot more Metallica since 1983 than Megadeth just like the public in general. The point about complexity is just that , Mustain is a more accomplished player and some people respect and appreciate that, it doesn't mean everything. James has a more acceptable singing voice to most people and that sells records.

    • @Taxable_Trophy
      @Taxable_Trophy 7 месяцев назад

      @daronbrown8076 yeah intricate means better apparently 😂😂 no offense but you are the most un educated 25 year old related to guitar.

    • @Septicshites
      @Septicshites 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@Taxable_Trophy the holy wars verse riff is better than any metallica riff and im a metallica fan your wrong

  • @easternag16
    @easternag16 10 месяцев назад +18

    22:01
    I swear Dave just said "I farted eggs from mistakes"

  • @edatube7616
    @edatube7616 10 месяцев назад +43

    Now I want an Ozzy vs. Dio ERB lmao

  • @visitor5451
    @visitor5451 10 месяцев назад +41

    James being surprised that Dave is still living in a non-reality is the realest shit I've ever heard James say.

  • @mcathawk1490
    @mcathawk1490 8 месяцев назад +28

    Dave just says stuff, sometimes true, sometimes not, but one thing about Dave….he’s an amazing guitar player and songwriter, and without getting kicked out of Metallica we never would have the catalogue of Megadeth, which we all love.

    • @billydenham9313
      @billydenham9313 5 месяцев назад

      You got that right. Dave is an awesome song writer & guitar player. People need to really look back at the Metallica albums. If it were not for Mustaine & Bob Rock there probably wouldn't be a Metallica.

    • @Septicshites
      @Septicshites 5 месяцев назад +2

      dave is much more grounded now too for the better lol

  • @thechancesr2853
    @thechancesr2853 2 месяца назад +11

    Picking those 3 Metallica albums over albums like Dystopia, Endgame and TSTDATD makes me wanna pull my hair out of my head

    • @Jimmy-nd1qu
      @Jimmy-nd1qu Месяц назад +2

      When he said that I was pissed lol. It’s like he just ignored the good of there later albums

    • @NAlvazaz
      @NAlvazaz 12 дней назад +1

      ​​@@Jimmy-nd1qu Yes agreed, Megadeth's 16 albums are way better than Metallica's 11 albums. With Teemu Mäntysarri, on the next album, it's going to be awesome!

  • @jons.4918
    @jons.4918 8 месяцев назад +32

    Never cared about who was better or the fighting between the two bands. I love heavy metal and there are a lot of great bands out young and old. I’m 52 years old and lived through all of it and happy to see that it is still alive today and seeing kids today embrace it. Keep the Heavy Fkin Metal Heart beating.🤘🏼❤

  • @warnerbasement1628
    @warnerbasement1628 7 месяцев назад +12

    In hindsight I have to give it to Megadeth. The fact that Mustaine is still alive is miraculous. But those albums from 1988 to today hold up -- in like a jazz way -- and while Metallica's first 4 are phenomenal, they've had a near 30 years streak of meh at best.
    I look at Mustaine like an addicted jazz musician/band leader -- brilliant, flawed, difficult, genius -- who managed to not kill himself and create some timeless complex but still approachable metal along the way and it's appeal had only grown on me over the years.
    So Megadeth hands down the better band.

  • @devonmiller113
    @devonmiller113 9 месяцев назад +60

    I think Metallica’s first 4 albums are absolutely legendary but overall I think Megadeth has consistently edged them out in terms of consistency in song writing and song quality and just sheer talent musically. But generally I prefer Megadeth since their music tends to be a little more innovative technically and not absolutely blown out like Metallicas music. There’s only so much master of puppets and ride the lightning you can hear in your life before you tend to want to move on.

    • @dookester.manoftruth7773
      @dookester.manoftruth7773 7 месяцев назад +3

      This is the best way to explain my opinion on both bands I have loved and compared one stop, since listening to both of them.
      You articulated my opinion on superb fashion, brotha.
      My favorite album has always been 'Kill 'em All'... No coincidence that half of that album was MegaDave and the other was Metallica's brothers Lars and James. The first Metallica album was a masterpiece that I still enjoy now as much as when I did having first bought it, decades ago.
      Overall, I do prefer Megadave for the same reasons you stated.

    • @prongATO
      @prongATO 7 месяцев назад +1

      You eloquently typed every thought I have about it. /chefs kiss

  • @escherpainting8622
    @escherpainting8622 10 месяцев назад +12

    The System has Failed lowkey buries Metallica entire re-thrash output.

  • @metalgooder
    @metalgooder Месяц назад +5

    The general public prefers Metallica, musicians prefer megadeth. 🤷🏽

  • @mcathawk1490
    @mcathawk1490 8 месяцев назад +25

    There is no “sell out”. These are musicians that don’t want to play the same exact stuff forever. Whenever Metallica plays Load, Reload, or St. Anger stuff live these days, the crowd goes crazy and it sounds incredible live!

    • @Asbestoseater23
      @Asbestoseater23 6 месяцев назад

      yeah, its not sell out when you make your sound more mainstream and and not what you sounded before

    • @JPR17
      @JPR17 6 месяцев назад

      I.dont have a problem with bands going mainstream, why not? The problem is if the songs are good and if the musicians still care to practice and be better.

    • @jimifritz
      @jimifritz 4 месяца назад

      Those are the weekend warriors that know nothing about metal, or so called posers

    • @maleexile9053
      @maleexile9053 18 дней назад

      They sold out also you forgot the best Metallica song the view from lulu

  • @alexpinet3503
    @alexpinet3503 10 месяцев назад +15

    Fuck, this video was such a good time. As a 20+ year fan of both these bands, I was pleasantly surprised to learn we share many same opinions, both about the bands’ music and their members. Keep up the great work; huge fan of your stuff!

  • @kapitanleutnantschneider2076
    @kapitanleutnantschneider2076 6 месяцев назад +7

    I love both bands.
    I am also weird because I actually like Risk and St.Anger.
    I'm actually glad I came across this video because about 90% of your analysis is on point and fair. Very good job job my dude.

  • @ImPhynsa
    @ImPhynsa 10 месяцев назад +27

    Load and Reload are good hard rock records I will die on this hill

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  10 месяцев назад +17

      Well, at least you're dead.

    • @FrancisTheBerd
      @FrancisTheBerd 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@ScoopedMids💀

    • @Skycladatdusk78
      @Skycladatdusk78 10 месяцев назад +8

      I agree, as the years go by I appreciate Load more and more. When it came out I was 18 and hated most of it, but over the years I get more what they were going for.

    • @ponzo1967
      @ponzo1967 9 месяцев назад +1

      Some great Metallica songs on both albums. I liked Reload better and both have some less than impressive songs but to dismiss those recordings is simply missing out on some great music.

    • @emolga3147
      @emolga3147 8 месяцев назад +2

      straight facts, Load > Kill 'Em All

  • @FairtradeFloyd
    @FairtradeFloyd 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for showing me "Almost Honest"... awesome song!!! Load is awesome too :)

  • @captaindaddy4991
    @captaindaddy4991 10 месяцев назад +19

    Great video. Megadeth wins for me, its close though. Anthrax has aged well and is now my favorite of the big 4.

    • @DJBuglip
      @DJBuglip 10 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed, Anthrax rules

    • @itburns805
      @itburns805 9 месяцев назад +2

      Most definitely

    • @DogDooWinner
      @DogDooWinner 8 месяцев назад +1

      I've always liked anthrax more than both of them, with Anthrax thrown out, I preferred Megadeth. Slayer has the most output I still listen to constantly, just because I don't have a megadeth album after cryptic. I do not own a Metallica album after the black album. I have everything Slayer and Anthrax put out, but Slayer has more songs.

  • @ThaShikushi
    @ThaShikushi 9 месяцев назад +13

    I gotta give props to Lars and James, aside from some smack talk in the 80's, over 30 damn years ago, they always speak of Dave with respect, yet Dave constantly has to take jabs at Metallica in some way.
    I can understand why Dave was so bitter about getting kicked out, but after Metallica has tried to reconcile with him time and time again you'd think he could shut up about them. He's been back and forth about it for decades.
    Looking at interviews of Dave over the decades in general, he seems pretty all-over-the-place. Sometimes he's respectful, down-to-earth, and even says wise things now and then, but other times he's incredibly hostile and egotistical and says baffling things.
    I love Megadeth, but Dave is a real mixed bag. Though that's not to say the guys in Metallica have all been perfect, because no one is.

    • @samkornrumph8545
      @samkornrumph8545 6 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, I was watching a video from 1986 where Metallica went to a college radio station and answered phone calls from fans. Someone asked Lars about Dave/Megadeth and Lars said nothing but good things about Dave and how he was talking to Dave about Peace Sells, which hadn’t been released at the time.
      Dave’s awesome, but he seriously needs to stop complaining about getting kicked out of Metallica.

  • @krisorgan
    @krisorgan 8 месяцев назад +6

    Dave will be bitter til the day he dies. Personally I think it was the best thing that ever happened as I regard Megadeth as the superior band. To a man Dave is definitely the most talented outta of em all.

  • @KingHammerhead-kd4eu
    @KingHammerhead-kd4eu 10 месяцев назад +7

    Watch Kirk play Megadeth and sing at the same time !! lol

  • @nedeljkosatora6512
    @nedeljkosatora6512 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I would add that in my opinion James and Dave were the seed of hm. Lars was quintesential manager, he was probably the most important person in the hm scene. Not much of a drummer but a prophet of hm.

  • @gentelmanjunkie542
    @gentelmanjunkie542 10 месяцев назад +2

    Those leopard skin fingerless gloves with the tiger striped sleevless shirt @1:20...now that's metal.

  • @houseofbrah8998
    @houseofbrah8998 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video....but one thing that was overlooked was there live shows....which would you prefer live?

  • @Cito-lx7fp
    @Cito-lx7fp 8 месяцев назад +1

    When will you create a Slipknot video? I love your honesty and your content is always worth watching. Hope you still create great videos, take care.

  • @xGolbezx
    @xGolbezx 2 месяца назад +2

    Everyone loves/hates a character, and Dave is certainly a character, it's part of what makes MegaDeth more interesting. Long live MegaDeth!

  • @alphawolf8503
    @alphawolf8503 10 месяцев назад +1

    Oh this is gonna be good

  • @faisalalmarri5736
    @faisalalmarri5736 10 месяцев назад +8

    I prefer Megadeth. Because I don’t believe if any of the other band members was kicked out instead of Dave, they would have the same success and impact he has and still does

    • @samuelbanks7270
      @samuelbanks7270 7 месяцев назад

      Exactly what talent you mean?

    • @josemiguelcastiblancogomez7723
      @josemiguelcastiblancogomez7723 7 месяцев назад +2

      Thats right just look at Ron. Dave have the vision and resilence to make it and gadamnn he fucking made it.

  • @jeremyt4292
    @jeremyt4292 3 месяца назад +1

    I do remember an interview with Metallica where James makes fun of Dave's vocals on symphony of destruction, he pinches his nose and does a real nasally high-pitched brief cover of part of it

  • @drewbrown2175
    @drewbrown2175 10 месяцев назад

    I Subscribed to you over a year ago great content ! was wondering what your thoughts on Post-Punk music like bands like The Danse Society, The Chameleons, Asylum Party, and The Sound ?

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 10 месяцев назад +5

    I have a theory that there were people in the Metallica camp (mutual friends etc) who didn't want to fall out with Dave who were feeding him what he wanted to hear, also apparently Dave ran into the Metallica guys not long after he formed megadeth at a party at the suicidal tendencies house Mike muir said that everyone was pretty chill with each other. So it makes me wonder if Dave saw the potential for money with a potential feud so just fed BS to the press.

  • @BegetterVIIEVEN
    @BegetterVIIEVEN 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same hat as you on your profile pic! I've worn it on all live shows so far!

  • @briantatge7081
    @briantatge7081 4 месяца назад +2

    The Metallica/Megadeth fued was the greatest PR stunt in music history.

  • @danbryce8761
    @danbryce8761 4 месяца назад

    Great video!

  • @darkwizard545
    @darkwizard545 8 месяцев назад +4

    Interesting video but I disagree with the last part. The last 2 Megadeth albums are more interesting and less boring than Metallica last albums which contain many long boring songs. Dystopia and The Sick...have more musical depth. They combine thrashy elements and aggressive riffs with some dark melodic surprises (the instrumental "Conquer or Die" or the ambient "Poisonous Shadows", the first dramatic part of "Dogs of Chernobyl") and experimental songs that cannot be considered sell-out like "Mission to Mars" which changes from a melodic hard rock to speed/thrash thunder instrumental part. The 2 last Megadeth albums are less predictable and more inspired overall. And of course the riff of The "Threat is Real" is by no means the same with the riff of "We'll Be Back" although they seem similar in the beginning. Even "Endgame" album which is considered the most explosive Megadeth album of the 00s has its atmospheric moments of unpredictability mainly with "The Hardest Part of Letting Go...Sealed with a Kiss" song (with its Edgar Allan Poe theme). "The System Has Failed" album has also aged well and contains similar elements of surprise.

  • @JoeyArmstrong2800
    @JoeyArmstrong2800 Месяц назад

    The whole "Lars getting canned after the Master of Puppets tour" thing has some validity according to Scott Ian's conversation with Cliff and James that he states in his book, "I'm the Man".

  • @paulmayden7344
    @paulmayden7344 6 месяцев назад +2

    I like both bands. But when I'm playing their music, Megadeth is much more sophisticated. It's well known that Cliff Burton was the one with the musical guts and experimentation ideas. After he died, Metallica took what they learned up to that point and basically took it as far as they could then just kind of tweak it from there. The fact that there's so many Megadeth members means that there's a LOT of different things in Megadeth music. Not because Dave's some kind of genius, even though he kind of is, but because there's so many different skills that come in and out that the music can't help but evolve. It's not as inbred.

  • @sr_birb9664
    @sr_birb9664 8 месяцев назад +4

    This video is basically just shitting on Megadeth, which is valid, but there are as many things wrong with Megadeth than there are with Metallica. Like it wasn't just Dave who had a drinking problem, James went to rehab like twice for several months just to get sober.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah but James wasn't violent, neurotic, and overall difficult to work with.

    • @krelium2717
      @krelium2717 6 дней назад

      @@ScoopedMidsliterally within the first 5 minutes its incredibly obvious how biased this video is towards metallica 😹

  • @dennisjordan4952
    @dennisjordan4952 6 месяцев назад +2

    Rust in piece front to back is amazing

  • @marclovesbeer
    @marclovesbeer 10 месяцев назад +3

    Personally i like when bands try something new (regarding the sell out topic) why would you want to buy an album that sounds the exact same as the last 3?

  • @pmtruckerpaul
    @pmtruckerpaul 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m a huge fan of Dave, and buddy you nailed it. All the negative things about Dave is why I love Megadeth.

  • @danield9105
    @danield9105 4 месяца назад +1

    Like them both!

  • @KabukiKid
    @KabukiKid 3 месяца назад

    I was JUST saying the other day that Kirk's solo in "Fade to Black" is his best. I didn't know if I was the only one to feel that.

  • @terryswitzer3538
    @terryswitzer3538 7 месяцев назад +2

    Megadeth is my favorite band. I saw them in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Love it.

  • @reaverofjillsandwiches
    @reaverofjillsandwiches 10 месяцев назад +7

    Personally I like both bands. Both have some great albums, some really bad albums and some that are a bit hit and miss. Youthanasia was actually my first Megadeth album, and I still get a lot of nostalgia from that one. The black album was my first Metallica album, but man some of those singles didn't age well for me. never liked Nothing else matters or Sad But true, but Enter Sandman bothers me now. Saying that there are some really good songs on there. I like Unforgiven. Holier than thau is my favorite and Struggle Within and Through the never are bangers. At the end of the day nice work dude. I'm sure making these videos isn't easy.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  10 месяцев назад +1

      They're not easy but people enjoying them once they're out is is all the motivation I need.

    • @shecklesmack9563
      @shecklesmack9563 2 месяца назад +1

      The best songs from the black album are all the non-singles (except The Unforgiven, that song rules).

    • @reaverofjillsandwiches
      @reaverofjillsandwiches 2 месяца назад

      @@shecklesmack9563 Yeah Holier than thou, Struggle within, Of wolf and man, Don't Tread on me are among my favorites. I do like Unforgiven and wherever I may roam. Oh and through the never. So long winded way of agreeing with you.

  • @Tibzydbd
    @Tibzydbd 3 месяца назад +1

    Bro I swear Remastered Risk- Prince of Darkness is so good

  • @GhostSound2
    @GhostSound2 10 месяцев назад +12

    I will probably go with Metallica. When I try to be objective,I almost always end up picking Megadeth because of better consistency and having Rust In Peace in their catalogue,which is to me a perfect thrash album. But when I go with my heart, it's always Metallica. I know all their missteps,I know all their faults and yet almost every album has a song that reminds me,why I love this band. Hell,I often appreciate songs that people don't care for. So yeah, my cold mind says Megadeth and my heart says Metallica. I will go with my heart here

  • @malablondi77
    @malablondi77 6 месяцев назад +1

    ok good point , but does metallica have vic rattlehead?

  • @musicfan1086
    @musicfan1086 8 месяцев назад

    What happened to your Dokken back for the attack and shadow life reviews

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  8 месяцев назад

      They're unlisted. But they're still available to watch in old playlists.

  • @kevinbailey4879
    @kevinbailey4879 10 месяцев назад +1

    I been waiting for this. 😎

  • @tobiasblackmoar
    @tobiasblackmoar 10 месяцев назад +7

    Anthrax

    • @Sam-cm1pj
      @Sam-cm1pj 10 месяцев назад +1

      Real

    • @infernusrex796
      @infernusrex796 10 месяцев назад +1

      HARD Agree!

    • @captaindaddy4991
      @captaindaddy4991 10 месяцев назад +1

      Anthrax has aged very well. They have the best drummer of the big 4 and they seem like good guys.

    • @JPR17
      @JPR17 6 месяцев назад +1

      Anthrax is good, but Exodus deserves that spot more than them.

  • @BrandonBames
    @BrandonBames 5 месяцев назад +1

    “…the bass player..” LMAO Mustaine must be the pettiest, angstiest, holds-grudges-forever dude in metal.

    • @krelium2717
      @krelium2717 6 дней назад

      for the past few decades, that is simply not true

  • @alexanderkleist1127
    @alexanderkleist1127 10 месяцев назад

    29:00 youre not the only person to get this wrong, but its "hangar", not "hanger". one sounds like a military base, the other sounds like a person who covers up murders as suicides for fun xD.

    • @RaspiRoope
      @RaspiRoope 9 месяцев назад

      English speaking people should know the difference

  • @Koven_Sabbath
    @Koven_Sabbath 9 месяцев назад +3

    Im fan of both , Marty Friedman put it best Megadeth is Dave's music no matter what but he still pushes through and makes his music

  • @bryansteele832
    @bryansteele832 Месяц назад +2

    At this point I'm sick of the vs crap. They are all good bands, all past their prime, but still good old friends I listen to when I want.

  • @Wejohnsn
    @Wejohnsn 7 месяцев назад

    i like seeing hetfield wear a hank jr tshirt

  • @Six-Winged
    @Six-Winged 3 месяца назад +2

    Countdown reigns Supreme over black album.. Dystopia laid to rest who is better in the songwriting spectrum.. Megadeth takes the Medal (Metal) trophy.

  • @user-qy1uz1iy6q
    @user-qy1uz1iy6q 4 месяца назад +3

    Im proud of Dave, this video is trash.

  • @nicolasreveco3748
    @nicolasreveco3748 6 месяцев назад +2

    very fair points but you did dystopia dirrrty, and the sick the dying and the dead too! though i feel the last megadeth album and the last metallica album both suffer from having intros t o o long, like boringly long.

  • @ZeBubba
    @ZeBubba 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is like comparing VHS to beta.

    • @andrewsharpe7630
      @andrewsharpe7630 6 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think your analogy works. I have no idea what beta is, so that would mean one band is utterly forgettable, but both are still well known.
      Is beta a dinosaur technology like VHS? ha, that analogy would work cos both bands are dad-rock groups from a far distant past.

  • @quagsiremetalhead1401
    @quagsiremetalhead1401 10 месяцев назад +1

    Scooped drops another banger. This was a great vid, but I gotta go with megadeth. While agree with a lot of the points about them getting very samey, 72 seasons was just not for me in the slghtest whereas i really enjoyed Sick Dying and the Dead. The first 4 albums from both bands are some of the best runs in music history

  • @DaCostaGuitars
    @DaCostaGuitars 10 месяцев назад

    I was honestly thinking this was going to be a James & friends video, in which all 4 of them talk this "debate" amongst them after all the facts. I'm sure it'd have been a much longer video if that were the case, though i can imagine the fun jabs each would take at each other & both bands (& well the members/eras of each band too).
    In all of this, I'm more a Megadeth fan than a Metallica fan, however, like many others, i feel Metallica was most of our introduction to the metal world. It's only after diving into metallica's history & early days was i introduced to Mustaine & Megadeth altogether. I prefer Deth's songs & overall musical composition, but I can't deny Metallica had a lot of musical abilities to them too (with Burton being classically trained, it brought a huge dynamic in their first 3 albums which grew stronger each album recorded).
    That said, Megadeth is the only band of the BIG 4, i haven't seen. Metallica, again, was the first of the 4 i saw (during their Death Magnetic tour). & saw Anthrax & Slayer at Heavy MTL festival (Montreal, Ca. outdoor fest over a weekend), & i'm not a slayer fan, but being it was their last show before retiring for good, i figured what the heck. Will i go see Megadeth if they came to Montreal? Nope, was offered the chance, & passed on it. So i guess, even though i'm more megadeth than metallica, it's only slightly over the line. It's not a mile long distance between both. As meh & bored i am of new metallica, i can appreciate their continued fun of playing music.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  10 месяцев назад +1

      That could be interesting though I don't think Me, Caleb, and Nathan differ too much in opinion. And Drew isn't huge on either band.

  • @EnSerio71
    @EnSerio71 8 месяцев назад +1

    It was the best thing that could of happened to Dave. Now he has his own band and it is just as good. The rivalry is a great marketing tool in this silly world. 😅 Show biz.

  • @semakavf
    @semakavf 2 месяца назад +1

    I like it more MEGADETH. Until recently, I could not understand why METALLICA had changed since 1985, what was wrong with it. Been listening to Megadeth all this time, only now I understand why.

  • @jodyellison
    @jodyellison 5 месяцев назад

    @19:45 is Dave wearing a SAMHAIN shirt??

  • @LiveAerosmith
    @LiveAerosmith 6 месяцев назад

    i really enjoy the last 2 Megadeth records!!!!

  • @eversosleight
    @eversosleight 10 месяцев назад +8

    Love both bands immensely but what gets me is the years of hurt Dave had from getting fired, then turns around and fires so many bandmates from Megadeth.
    Great treatment 😃👍

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  10 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, good point. The guy is a major hypocrite.

    • @cosmefulanito6854
      @cosmefulanito6854 8 месяцев назад

      I don't know the context behind the members getting fired from Megadeth, but just in case I feel I need to say that it's much different to be fired from a band that's already successful than from a band that's about to start and become immensely successful without you.

  • @jackhayes6084
    @jackhayes6084 10 месяцев назад

    44:02 at Least silverchair were kids when they made this kind of stuff

  • @FrancisTheBerd
    @FrancisTheBerd 10 месяцев назад +4

    If Bob dylans voice is Sand and glue Daves voice is wet copper.
    In my opinion Megadeth has better albums overall but Metallica is definitely the superior live band, they make more of a show, unlike Megadeths stripped down "let's get to business" approach.
    Daves voice shrivelled up like a Raisin (now having the power and technical integraty of a Gordon Ramsay grilled cheese) and aged like milk on an exposed balcony on a south american summer while James became more refined and melodic (and kinda goofy I am sorry).
    I like both bands, Megadeth may be my preferred one but Metallica also has great songs, they feel more like a Team while Megadeth is more like "Megadave and Friends".
    Megadeth in my opinion has higher highs and lower lows, the worst of Metallica is boring and underwhelming but the worst of Megadetg is insulting and embarrassing.
    Good video and congrats for the 6000 subs

  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why is everyone so surprised about how Dave handled being fired from Metallica? Dude created the greatest thrash band with the greatest music of all time. Dave is literally better than everyone in the genre up until 2000s era. But he’s only one man. Metallica went the distance though.

  • @WIlSoNs_CreAtiOn_sTatIoN
    @WIlSoNs_CreAtiOn_sTatIoN 6 месяцев назад +1

    If I had to pick or die I would have to say Metallica but I'm torn between.. I'm a big Burton and Hammett fan... there are both in my top 3 guitarist and bass guitarist

  • @Wejohnsn
    @Wejohnsn 7 месяцев назад

    Dann Huff played guitar with hank jr

  • @jimifritz
    @jimifritz 4 месяца назад +1

    The sick The Dying and the dead smokes 72 seasons on every level

  • @napesdrk1174
    @napesdrk1174 9 месяцев назад +3

    Turning 49 today and I am a fan of both like you but lean a certain way. You did an excellent job reviewing both bands and all the things that happened along the way. I side with Dave, Garr and Marty.

  • @malablondi77
    @malablondi77 6 месяцев назад +1

    AYO i actually like st. anger the most (after ride the lighting , the best metallica album)

  • @megatonesilva6546
    @megatonesilva6546 17 дней назад

    Malcom Dome said it perfectly when he said "Metallica is as great as they are because of the sum of their parts, not because they are great musicians".

  • @emolga3147
    @emolga3147 8 месяцев назад +2

    I prefer Metallica since instead of sticking to the same thrash metal, they experimented with albums like Load, The Black Album, S&M and St. Anger (though st anger is mediocre, the rest are bangers). Megadeth have made a lot of thrash metal bangers, but they can't ever match Metallica's impressive ballads like The Unforgiven, One and The Day That Never Comes.
    Even this year Metallica has proved to be alive and well by delivering some of their best songs like Inamorata and Too Far Gone. I've still got to say that Megadeth's newest album is also one of their best and tops 72 Seasons in overall quality.
    Basically, Megadeth is more consistent with their style, and for that reason I prefer Metallica.

  • @LostSoulNo301281
    @LostSoulNo301281 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly, I agree on most points about Megadeth and Mustaine.
    Although, I think The World Needs a Hero was a decent album.
    I may be a little bias because it was the first new album of theirs that I bought on release after I I got into them, and I got into them around the time Risk came out, but I didn’t buy that album until around 2001. I think it was actually the last of the back catalog that I bought.
    I also think that United Abominations and Endgame are both solid albums, although Th1rt3en is where I think they started to decline, with two songs being leftovers/rejects from the Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings sessions, and one song being something they wrote for a video game a couple of years earlier.
    Super Collider has maybe two decent songs, and one of those is a cover.
    Dystopia is a decent album, but it does use some recycled riffs. The main riff from Lying in State is basically Blackmail the Universe.
    And as for the last album, The Sick, The Dying… And The Dead. I honestly thought it was quite forgettable.
    And Mustaine is definitely an egotistical prick.
    Just read the Rust in Peace book and you can see how he holds his former band mates in contempt, even when he compliments their contributions.

  • @jamiereekie9342
    @jamiereekie9342 9 месяцев назад +3

    It's undeniable that Daves song writing and live performances made metallica what it was in the beginning. I sucks that they STOLE his material (which they 100% did)
    After Dave got fired and they used up his riffs the only decent song writer left was Cliff and once he died their writing quality went down hill after AJFA.

    • @imagereflection4826
      @imagereflection4826 5 месяцев назад +2

      Cliff hardly write anything and neither did Dave. Why do people always try to credit those two with the first 3 albums haha Kirk wrote way more than cliff.

  • @Archenemygames.
    @Archenemygames. 9 месяцев назад +2

    Honestly I just like both equally so……

  • @Unglued98
    @Unglued98 10 месяцев назад +3

    Listen to bleeding me and outlaw thorn, the only good songs from load

  • @oliverdahlberg838
    @oliverdahlberg838 10 месяцев назад +4

    Regarding the ending of 'Lying is Dave's business' where you say you haven't found any shit talking on Metallica's side towards Dave after he got kicked out: I remember listening to a phone interview from the 80's on RUclips with the band where Cliff says Dave can't play guitar, so that did happen.
    I also remember a comment on that video saying something like "Dave mourned and wrote a song inspired by Cliff after his passing, but I'm not sure Cliff would do the same for him." which I thought was interesting

    • @imagereflection4826
      @imagereflection4826 8 месяцев назад

      Cliff never said dave couldnt play guitar

    • @Charybdis47
      @Charybdis47 5 месяцев назад

      @@imagereflection4826 he did tho... Cliff was really angry at him after the car crash. Thats probably why he said it

    • @imagereflection4826
      @imagereflection4826 5 месяцев назад

      @@Charybdis47 He praised Dave but said Dave spent too much time talking Sh..
      Which is true

  • @ponzo1967
    @ponzo1967 9 месяцев назад +2

    The money Dave has enjoyed by having writing credits on Metallica albums is never mentioned in any interview. Come on Dave spit it out, just how much money have you made from those early songs?

  • @ahungiao
    @ahungiao 6 месяцев назад +3

    More Classic Songs: Metallica
    More Feeling Songs: Metallica
    More Good Songs: Megadeth
    More Technical songs: Megadeth
    In my opinion:
    80's -> Metallica
    90's -> Megadeth
    00's -> Megadeth
    10's -> Megadeth

  • @delanoarts3703
    @delanoarts3703 8 месяцев назад

    I like those megadeth albums i understand your opinion when i learn a megadeth riff i normally love it one of the things you have to understand is his stuff changed when working with different guitar players i think megadeth would return to at least one more great album if Marty would come back i bet that would fix megadeth for a album i just seen megadeth live the man is super old i just want one more album of greatest and i can put it to rest Marty is the key

  • @TheShytallica
    @TheShytallica 6 месяцев назад +2

    Darn I liked the newer megadeth albums with exception to the world needs a hero and supercollider I have not listened to the sick the dead and the dying.

  • @super_guitar_dude7954
    @super_guitar_dude7954 4 месяца назад

    Good video
    Gotta say though, over the years i've gained nothing but respect for dave and lost most of the love i used to have for Metallica. James and Lars a decent guys but Dave is a legend

  • @NAlvazaz
    @NAlvazaz 12 дней назад

    I love Dave's voice! Sweet Home Alabama is Dave's idea. I'm shocked you didn't know that.
    Musical sophistication isn't appreciated by the public at large so Metallica's approach is better received.

  • @matthewhaas3263
    @matthewhaas3263 7 месяцев назад

    To suggest a couple of late teen/early 20 something’s should’ve supported Dave or told him hey man let’s get you some help, or discuss their feelings about his drinking, in the early 80’s mind you, is a bit of exaggerated hindsight.

  • @JeremyLeal1695
    @JeremyLeal1695 10 месяцев назад

    Its funny to me that the only thing i disagree with in this video, is the jab at Overkill. Great vid.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  10 месяцев назад +1

      I like Overkill but since the mid 90s they've basically made the same album over and over again

    • @JeremyLeal1695
      @JeremyLeal1695 10 месяцев назад

      @@ScoopedMids Fair, but i do think they’re 2010s material has been pretty good, IMO.

  • @rjamesyork
    @rjamesyork 9 месяцев назад +1

    I prefer Metallica but I appreciate your honesty, especially the one-sided war of words.

  • @cripplingdebt224
    @cripplingdebt224 15 дней назад

    80s - Metallica
    90s- Tie
    21st Century- Megadeth (Although Hardwired is one of my favourite albums).

  • @andrewjohannes6044
    @andrewjohannes6044 10 месяцев назад +1

    Master of puppets and ride the lightning are legendary albums but megadeaths rust in peace is a master peace. Mustang is a better technical guitarist than James but James is a better vocalist.

  • @larryjey3620
    @larryjey3620 5 месяцев назад

    World Needs a Heroe is awesome.

  • @jamesvaughn4126
    @jamesvaughn4126 8 месяцев назад +1

    Do want on Slayer

  • @donmcglothlin841
    @donmcglothlin841 3 месяца назад +1

    I think Metallica owned the 80s
    Megadeth was great but Metallica was epic
    Come the 90s and beyond Megadeth has been above par and consistent while Metallica has yet to inspire me with any album they’ve made post 1990
    Was the black album good? Yes. But Countdown was better, and the rest of the Bob Rock era ranges from butt rock to being less enjoyable than a toilet flushing for 90 minutes.
    Are there missteps? Sure, but Risk has grown on me. The minute I hear snare on St Anger I question my life decisions in album choices. I appreciate Lulu over St Anger
    The saddest thing in all of this where Metallica is concerned is they now have one of the most talented bassists who ever lived and they still barely peak at decent minus Spit out the Bone
    If you listen to the first 4 albums Lars takes a lot of risks on the drums that pay off massively and Kirk really brings the solos. Since Bob Rock it feels more phoned in from those 2.
    My theory is they became huge with Bob so now they know they don’t have to work for it
    Slap Metallica on an album cover and you’re making money and getting the Grammy

  • @maleexile9053
    @maleexile9053 18 дней назад

    Mettalica never trueoy recovered after the black ablum

  • @GuitarNeckMk
    @GuitarNeckMk 10 месяцев назад +1

    Always will be crossing paths between Dave and Metallica. Both bands are good.For me MegadetH is technically more advanced, more complex and MegadetH still thrashing.Try to sing, riffing, soloing in the same time. Kirk is high skilled guitarist that is no doubt.

  • @punknerd9747
    @punknerd9747 8 месяцев назад +1

    Load is a masterpiece come on! ReLoad is great, and ngl St. Anger>Risk anyday but I understand your take.

    • @ScoopedMids
      @ScoopedMids  8 месяцев назад

      You definitely shouldn't watch our James and Friends episode on Load if you feel that way

    • @Taxable_Trophy
      @Taxable_Trophy 8 месяцев назад

      @@ScoopedMidsyou named a few songs you liked from reload, I’m surprised you didn’t mention fuel

  • @SilverNova111
    @SilverNova111 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ppl say Lars is the a hole but idk Lars tries , headfield in the other hand is the one with the condescending comments