Eurovision 1986: That must be enough for Scandinavia I think | Super-cut with animated scoreboard
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- An edited down version of the 1986 Eurovision Song Contest in Bergen with a scoreboard using today’s technology. Nothing but a fun lockdown project.
This edit will give a flavour of the evening (3rd May) with only some of Terry Wogan’s commentary this time - a source for the whole show is not easily found on RUclips. There’s compensation in a very good quality version, rebroadcast by NRK. This year’s special edits go to Iceland’s debut, and it gives a chance to show what NRK did with their postcards.
NRK’s first hosting of Eurovision is often described as a costly affair - comments about the presenter’s dress and an ‘ice palace’ being built which was shown off to the King. This was the first time royalty had endured Eurovision - and their glum faces didn’t add to the atmosphere in the Grieghallen. The Crown Princess had just had a foul smelling mixture of oil, pepper and water thrown over her by a crazed woman from the crowd outside though, so we could forgive them. Unlike 1985, the audience was more highly selected.
The presenter, Åse Kleveland, was a steady pair of hands who had represented Norway in 1966 (the first woman to wear a pantsuit instead of a dress on stage, no doubt). Kleveland went on to become Minister of Culture in Norway in 1990. She’s a polyglot, but her grasp of English was much weaker than Lindfors’ a year earlier and this meant some of the modern, flow free presentation achieved in Gothenburg was lost. The opening number is particularly weak, although memorable.
Much later it was revealed there had been a bomb threat to the contest and the police weighed up suspending the show and evacuating the hall...luckily, with the King in attendance, the police were sure it was a hoax as the venue had been thoroughly searched.
DESIGN AND THE BOARD
So the design this year is a little confusing. I’m fairly sure there isn’t much snow or ice in Bergen in May, so I can’t explain the staging choice other than to reiterate that it snows in Norway and this is the most northerly contest (still true as of 2020, Helsinki is a smidge to the south). The logo seen on hoardings and in the titles was inspired, and used a Garamond-like typeface on bar lines...that’s a good theme....but then it transitions to postcards in the programme to end the… well, postcards. So we have ice, postcards and sheet music.
As a result, I went with postcards, which used some ice type animation on the board. Instead of using Century Gothic from the logo, I went with the very pleasing Optician Sans (Simen Schikulski, Kjetil Wold, and Vivi-Ann Slaatsveen from ANTI in collaboration with typographer Fábio Duarte Martins, via Font Arena) and a Google’s Caveat (Impallari Type) to give us some handwriting on the postcards.
Wige Data again provided the scoreboard in the hall, and the ranks were displaying much faster than in 1985. I do believe that Wogan had a feed of the placings and scores in the commentator’s booth potentially - he manages to read out placings long after they’ve disappeared from the physical board.
TRANSFER NEWS (source: Wiki)
IN: The first new country to join the gang since 1981, Iceland started their Eurovision journey.
OUT: Greece was back out, unexpectedly. They had been drawn to perform 18th, but ERT didn’t travel to Bergen - either political trouble or the eve of Orthodox Easter seems to be the reason. Italy out again too, through lack of interest.
BACK: Yugoslavia and the Netherlands didn’t have other plans, so returned.
INTERVAL ACT
"Bergensiana" performed by Sissel Kyrkjebø and Steinar Ofsdal seemed a little odd in the edit, but the crowd found it so moving they stood to attention throughout it. The production team didn’t expect it, but it’s a patriotic piece, performed excellently.
CREDITS
The wonderful Lukas ESC Archive for this high quality NRK showing.
Tasosk3 for the chopped up voting videos that actually had Wogan on it!
Yugoslav flag by Đorđe Andrejević-Kun,commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
www.countryflags.com/en/ for all the free to use images of flags
The flashing phone came from www.flaticon.com
Photo by Kuno Schweizer on Unsplash used before the board appears.
All Copyright goes to NRK and the BBC.
00:00 Intro
04:08 Song super-cut
21:19 Interval act
22:13 Voting Intro
24:35 The reorder board 86
1:04:53 Recap and reprise of winning song
1:10:35 Closing credits 
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It's almost as though Germany was saying, "Hey, Switzerland? Remember when we were the favorites to win in 1981, then you didn't give us anything? Then we were the favorites to win in 1985, and you didn't give us anything? You know how you're one of the favorites to win this year? Yeah, suck on this."
Germany only gave 1 to Belgium though (though a good mark to the Netherlands, so well done Germany). As for Germany - I think they deserved the marks in 1981, not so much in 1985 though.
Switzerland, Germany and Austria in ESC were regularly shunning each other these years, the dislike was mutual. I'm glad this changed a bit lately, even though there's still probably a bit more rivalry compared with Scandinavian countries supporting each other.
Sandra Kim and the waiter outfit
"That must be enough for Scandinavia I think." I absolutely love this quote! Iceland's debut song was amazing, it's a shame the juries didn't get it at the time. Well done ICY, you made Eurovision history, now you can laugh all the way to the "Gleðibankinn". 🇮🇸💙
Correct, there were no Scandinavian or Nordic countries left to vote for hence enough points given...
The most beautiful and deserving song: Yugoslavia - Zeljo Moja!❤
Yugoslavias best song in Eurovision was Daniel Popovic with Dzuli in 1983.
@@sutej72
Nope, it was the 1974 song
Although my favorite one for Doris was...
Ova žena zna, da ti pripada... SVA...
I like how you've kept the Icy theme to move countries up and down the list. I'll be particularly interested to see your take on Ireland's theme and variation scoreboards of the 1990s (they are probably my favourite scoreboards on the ESC). That being said, it will be interesting to see what you do the next time Norway hosts, as they had the virtual scoreboard then!
Thanks for your feedback! Yes, 1986 was a bit confused on the branding side I think - they should have gone with the musical theme from the logo, rather than the 'ice palace'...considering it was May! And yes, the 1990s are causing me some worry - particularly the 1994/5 versions which use a illustration/stop motion theme for their branding...it's always difficult to know where to leave the logo and whether the board should sit more neatly with the stage design. Today, the graphics obviously more closely reflect the individual branding, but the space allowed for that is getting smaller as the EBU haven't really changed the core design of the board for a while now. Not saying it doesn't work of course...but I also like the variation of the old days. As for NRK and 1996....I'm treating that as a clean slate and I'll probably try and do something a bit grungy and orange!
@@thereorderboard This is precisely why ORF's scoreboard in 2015 is my favorite of the last decade, because it dared to go for a different idea, one that I found a lot clearer. Apart from that, the scoreboards these last years have tended to be a bit samey - and not all of them have to be blue!
@@thereorderboard Can you please remake it for Eurovision 1987, and Eurovision 1988, please?
Dude i really like you work.Many surprises in things that i don't imagine in Eurovision.
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@Morgan Augustine Definitely, have been using kaldroStream for since november myself :D
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A couple of footnotes: Luxembourg's entry was the 500th song to be performed at ESC, which was sung by Sherisse Laurence of Manitoba - the first Canadian artist to participate in the contest!
One of my favorite winners of the 80´s and overall! So happy she will be part of this years show, she can still SANG!
I love the Icelandic entry. What a wonderful debut.
Such a coincidence, I just wrote a comment in another of your videos and I discover a new one! I will watch it right now!
What a splendid work of art! Thank you!
Brilliant job! Thank you!
Fine work really !
Great scoreboard as always! My only critque is that you could have kept the mail motif with country stamps and then have a mark on them when they completed voting. A bit of missed opportunity. Using ice to reorder the countries is a very nice touch as well. Great job!
The country stamps would be a great idea indeed.
Sandra Kim is only 13 years old here!!!! Whaaaaat???
Very nice presentation again. I never knew that about the Crown Princess being attacked or the bomb threat. The two big security stories about Eurovision I heard were from 1973 (it was thought that it may be a target because of the first Israeli entry; Terry Wogan apparently said that the audience were advised not to stand to applaud as they risked being shot) and 1975 (intellegence reports suggested the contest may be a target for the Baader Meinhof Gang. It was not be the West German embassy in Stockholm was attacked by the group soon after).
86 was not one of my favourites years song-wise although I am an Ase fan. My points for 86 are:
1pt Cyprus (I love it because its so bad - amazing choreography!)
2pt Portugal
3pt Norway
4pt Switzerland
5pt Belgium
6pt Sweden
7pt Germany
8pt Luxembourg
10pt Denmark
and finally
Yugoslavia 12 points
I discovered about the Crown Princess attack and the bomb threat via the Eurovision 86 Wiki page, but in Norwegian. I often have to refer to those for some translation help and it had a load of extra information that just needed Google Translating!
another amazing edit! absolutely love these, looking forward to seeing 88, 89, 91 & 93. what program do you use to make these?
So these are made in software called VizRT Artist. It's a broadcast standard programme I use in my day job and was the software used in the first re-ordering board done in 2003. Since then they've moved to other competitors, but Artist remains a standard in a lot of large broadcasters. The boards are coded and I operate them 'as live' after I've finished building them, which is great fun for me as I've always wanted to work on a Eurovision programme! I do am really looking forward to 88 too and 91 in particular as I think it'll demonstrate the closeness way better than the RAI programme did!
@@thereorderboard Looking forward to 1991 too!
The presenter has representated Norway 20 years before with the entry "Intet er nytt under solen"😃
This is so entertaining I love 86
MY DEAR YUGOSLAVIA!!!!I WAS BORN IN YUGOSLAVIA
Yugoslavia had the best song this year ... for me the best song the former country ever send ... it in my top ten of all time (im not from that region)
Title: The Votes from my Country Netherlands! 🇳🇱❤🇳🇴🇩🇰🇸🇪🇫🇮🇮🇸
37:01
Cities where the points were awarded from and languages this year
Luxembourg: Luxembourg (French)
Yugoslavia: Pristina
France: Paris (French)
Norway: Oslo
United Kingdom: London
Iceland: Reykjavík
Netherlands: Hilversum
Turkey: Ankara
Spain: Madrid
Switzerland: Bern (French)
Israel: Jerusalem
Ireland: Dublin
Belgium: Brussels (French)
Germany: Munich
Cyprus: Nicosia
Austria: Vienna
Sweden: Stockholm
Denmark: Copenhagen
Finland: Helsinki
Portugal: Lisbon
All juries awarded their votes in English unless otherwise stated.
ase kleveland was the perfect presenter for esc that year :)
I've been checking out these scoreboard videos on your channel. Great work on them! I love all the effort you put into making designs that match with each year's theme, but I noticed the 1987 to 1989 videos are nowhere to be seen. Am I right to assume that they are blocked due to copyright? If so, is it possible to recreate these videos with the copyright blocked parts omitted?
The 1987 to 1989 contests have almost no commentated uploads on RUclips, for this exact same reason. I think they were all blocked less than a year ago. Shame because when writing reviews of every contest (I finished 1990 yesterday), I would have loved to see Terry Wogan or Ernst Grissemann's (the Austrian commentator) comments on them. If you can speak German, Ernst Grissemann is a very good commentator. He clearly explains the meaning of each song before they begin and provides a lot of witty remarks, but he's much less sarcastic than Terry Wogan.
Someone this young is never going to win eurovision again I would think. Very deserved winner.
This will never happen due to the rule, the contestants age has to be 16 or older. Sandra Kim was 14, but she wasn't the Youngest to win the contest...
The second year running where the contest was hosted by previous Eurovision participants, (both of whom took part in 1966) Lill Lindfors came 2nd with Svante Thuresson for Sweden and Åse Kleveland came third for Norway. It was the highest scoring positions for both nations at that time too…..But Åse should have won, she was the only artist there that year who knew and acted like it was 1966. She was the freshest thing on the menu that year for sure.
Here are the results of the German jury, Belgium 1 point......🤔
Mrs Kleveland, Finland is not part of the Scandinavian countries :)
Luxembourg was my favourite this year!
"Hello, this is Pristina calling."
Words that we could soon hear in the ESC.
The Yugoslav Broadcaster started venturing away from Belgrade at this time, 84 in Skopje and 86 in Pristina.
(Providing Serbia don't object, that is.)
I always wondered why Sandra Kim was dressed like Huckleberry Hound.
Top 5
1. 🇪🇸 Spain
2. 🇬🇧 UK
3. 🇮🇸 Iceland
4. Yugoslavia
5. 🇨🇭 Switzerland
It was great year , except some awful songs.
Âne!
If the other countries bothered to check Sandra Kims age, Belgium would have been disqualified.
16 is the minimum age to compete in Eurovision and Belgium said she was 16 but it turned out that she was only 14 at the time.
Im not complaining though, its a cute song and I had a major crush on Sandra Kim.
She was 13 when she won. The age rule didn't come into effect until 1990, so her record as the youngest ESC winner will never be broken
@@mysticgirl916
One might argue that there were at least two women throughout the years singing pregnant, so Sandra Kim wasn't the youngest on stage.
Are you going to do 1985 as well? :)
I'm glad the 🇬🇧 didn't give any points to 🇮🇪. Luv Bug are from the UK.
11:11 Klips ve Onlar "Halley"
Greece didn't part because it was hosted on the holy Saturday
You can check what song would have represented Greece though here as it had already been anounced:
ruclips.net/video/2zJtoeKxD9Q/видео.html
@@irondasgr thank you dear ❤
17:29 I got Oneira Mou’d by this lady! 😼😼
Turkey ❤
How did Denmark get away with entering the Swedish entry from 1985 with changed lyrics?
1:03:46 anderrrrrrrrrrr Finlaly Belgium 12 points
My country
My city
@@tobias6511my country
Regarding the opening and being unable to find Terry Wogans intro for the BBC. There is one around I do have it, unfortunately not with me at the time of writing, but, he does make a comment that Katie Boyle never sang - did she?
The Cypriots must have had a tough time trying to decide who to give the 12 to, as Greece didn't turn up in Bergen.
The French sung by Luxemburg's singer must be the worst ever in the contest.
And who is that guy with his arm around the underage Sandra? Disgusting.
The French is sung by a Canadian singer, which might account for the accent.
37:10 *37:01*
Wasn't there a protest by Switzerland about the winner being under 16?
There sure was! Rules about the age of performers wouldn't come in until following the 1989 contest though
@@thereorderboard Oh yes, the 9 year-old from France and the 10 year-old from Israel. The following year though the UK sent a 15 year-old so was the rule changed again?
@@muppet7680 No the rule wasn't changed after Emma. The rule was the artist had to have attained their 16th birthday in the year of the contest, so in fact Emma, as a 15 year old was eligible to enter, as long as (in her case) she had reached 16 by the 31st December, 1990.
@@muppet7680 Gili from Israel was 12 and Natalie from France was 11
That's not correct that it's a new record of Average points
in 1976 United Kingdom got 164 points from 17 countries (18 excluding their own) which is an average of 9.64
My personal points for 1986
1p 🇨🇾 Cyprus
2p 🇫🇷 France
3p 🇩🇪 Germany
4p 🇳🇴 Norway
5p 🇧🇪 Belgium
6p 🇭🇷 Yugoslavia
7p 🇳🇱 Netherlands
8p 🇸🇪 Sweden
10p 🇩🇰 Denmark
12p 🇱🇺 Luxembourg
The studio version of Belgium was the best, but the orchestral version of Switzerland was far superior and perhaps should have won.
Denmark shamelessly copying the Swedish song of 1985.
Love Portugal.
Overall not as good as 1985 but much better than 1987.
Does that mean the 1999 board will be in hebrew?
It will feature some Hebrew, but I'll have to consider it. I took the decision that a board entirely in Serbo-Croat Cyrillic for 1990 would be unintelligible for most outside of those who spoke the language, and therefore not a good watch. Hebrew causes some other issues as, being a right-to-left alphabet, the board would technically have to order from the top right. I expect I'll probably fold it in like I have done Irish in the 93-95 videos.
@@thereorderboard well you can write hebrew in english letters
I can help you with that - the board in other language is not that readable either 🙂
@@thereorderboard
Albania Andorra Armenia Austria Azarbijan Belarus Belgia Bosnia herzegovina
Bulgaria Croatia Kafrisin Cheehia Denemark Estonia Hoongaria Eicland Eirland
Israael Italia Latvia Lita Luxembourg Makadonia Malta Moldova monaco
Montenegro marokko holland norvegia Polin portugal romania russia
San marino Sebia Slovakia Slovenya Sfaraad Shvedia Schvaaitz Turkiaa
Ukraaina Britania Yugosalvia
@@SimsMoyal Well you're more than welcome to try another channel that's more to your taste :-) I'm not sure writing Hebrew with a Latin script would please anyone.
@@thereorderboard but a scoreboard in Swedish or Norwegian where only those people can understand does please all the other people who can't read it ?
sounds like double standards to me.
and don't worry i will let myself out.
Luxembourg the TRUE winner of 1986
No
No no no
Jesus those British teeth!
12 points for Ingrid Peters from Germany
Finally a victory but the first time was to be in 78 in Paris with Jean Vallée with the best song of the contest. Belgium: 12, Ireland: 10, Yugoslavia: 8,
Switzerland:7. Germany: 6. Austria: 5. Denmark: 4. Finland: 3. Sweden presented the height of stupidity and deserved nothing.
Åse Kleveland was too stiff and robotic. Otherwise, a really nice ESC
Flags design is meh, sorry
Probably, the lowest point at Eurovision, the worst winner of all, a song totally devoid of any musical merit or quality whatsoever (appallingly poor lyrics, awful melody and arrangement and the main vocal is mediocre and sorely lacking in tone, pitch, fullness). awful awful combo, how this entry won would be an absolute joke, if only it wasn’t true... I hope the poor girl has learned to sing since then, although I’m not sure she has done anything of note since then. This vindicated all the critics who argued this contest was a mockery and a campy farce, this was very unfortunate
Ok
is this the worst winner of all??? What about UK 81 then and their ridiculous farce of song? Sweden 84, Norway 85 and all the winners from 2015 to 2018? Estonia 2001 was the worst winner hands down as it was just an improved version of Switzerland 2004 which could is easily be considered as the worst song ever appeared on the ESC stage.
I think it's very harsh to say Belgium is the worst winner.... I think estonia 2001 is widely considered the worst. I am still baffled to this day as to how it won... Yugoslavia in 1989 was also a very mediocre winner and Latvia in 2002 wasn't great either.
@@irondasgr I think Ukraine in 2016 was an great winner personally. I liked Sweden as a winner in 2015 event hough I preferred Italy that year. And Portugal in 2017 was a great winner. I know it might not be a traditional winner but its still a well deserved victory. And bobbysocks for Norway in 1985 is still one of my favourite winners ever. I remembered watching them win. I was like 12 years old and jumped with joy when they won. But I know everyone has their own opinion. It's what makes eurovision so great.
@@donalokeeffe7504 Oh dear. All of them you are referring to sucked. Ukraine 2016 was neither the juries' first option nor the televoters'. Bad winner! Sweden 2015 won because... Sweden. Portugal 2017 won because it got overhyped by the media thanks to his health condition and portugal's no victory state. Portugal 2017 has a like to dislike ratio 2:1. Finally Norway 1985 was a cheap happy song. It would normally get a 12 year old kid excited.