я этот видос по расточке в начале ролика лет восемь - десять назад смотрел :), у нас тогда заготовки сверлили под ЧПУ на старом развалившемся 16К20., когда фартук слесарь снял, в нём почти все подшипники рассыпались, на шпинделе подшипники так и не заменили, слесаря выгнали, и менять некому стало. до сих пор так на нём и сверлят.
I have Always wondered if the waste materials from milling machines are collected and reused? Otherwise there would be tones of steele around the world that would go to waste.
this is a great video .....but how long will the cutters last ....any carbide cutter will be great brand new .....how accurate will they be after 5 pieces or 10 especially going at that RPM and feet per minute ...I programmed and ran 2 Proto Traks and have used carbide since 1973 , they have come a long way ...many videos but are they good parts ? or real parts ....or just showing off free cutters for the supplier . Don't get me wrong ....it is amazing what cutters can do now and what CNC's can do .....Just how long will they last ?and how many pieces
Most of those operations are fine I use a tool that I can run at 250 m/min at 1.5mm fz and 1.5mm ap it will hold on for a long time and no cooling needed its a tungaloy doofeed mill and it's my favourite tool use it all the time uses all the power of the macine but strangely stil low forces in the workpiece if you are able to I recommend it very much great allround cutter TXN06R063M22.0E06 Dont know how much it costs but whatever it may be it's more than worth its prise Even the inserts thay have 4 cutting edges and I get 1 month out of them before I have to change them You can even do pre profiling
Oakwood Machine Works yes, I’ve seen smaller solid carbide drills go thousands, I was mostly talking about large (1.5”+) index drills like in the video. They seem to wear out much faster than say a 3/8” solid carbide drill. Most of my experience is in hot rolled mild and alloy steel.
It’s been my experience that companies show off their high speeds and feeds in order to sell machines but after a year of it, the machines develop slop in the ways and precision suffers.
Having worked with seco tools for a few years now i can say, they are one of the few companys whos tools you can actually reliably push hard as shown in promotional videos.
Yup, all those fast starts and stops have to add up. If your part price includes replacement of the machine, you're good. The hidden cost of machine replacement is not only its sticker price but also all the man-tax-hours of the labor that makes the money used to replace the machine.
I wanted to see that large hole at the beginning get tapped! After grunting on a cheater bar to try to thread some 3/4 NPT in SS, seeing a machine do it effortlessly is all the more impressive.
It's because of the insert, the insert is a ceramic insert and not your typical carbide insert. A typical carbide insert shears the material away. Cutting through material like a knife on a microscopic level. whereas a ceramic insert melts the material away, so running coolant is the complete opposite of the ideal cutting condition. Ceramic inserts also have poor thermal shock resistance so even if running coolant was possible the insert wouldn't last very long.
@@rlsweeneyjr1 Hi Richard, the chemical properties produced by ceramic milling/turning are undesirable, for that reason it's not really used for finishing and I'm not 100 percent sure but I think it's rarely used for semi finishing and instead just for hogging as much as possible off a tough material like inconel.
@@rlsweeneyjr1 I used to be a machinist from 16 - 25, then I started my own company CNC programming all over the globe, then I became an applications engineer for one of the largest CAD/CAM companies, I'm still working for the same company but I'm a projects engineer mostly doing post processors.
@@rlsweeneyjr1 no you don't factor in thermal expansion. If thermal expansion was a major problem, tools would therefore break/deform and the workpiece would likely almost always be out of dimension according to the prints
я этот видос по расточке в начале ролика лет восемь - десять назад смотрел :), у нас тогда заготовки сверлили под ЧПУ на старом развалившемся 16К20., когда фартук слесарь снял, в нём почти все подшипники рассыпались, на шпинделе подшипники так и не заменили, слесаря выгнали, и менять некому стало. до сих пор так на нём и сверлят.
Videos like this remind me of my late friend Bill Casanova... one of the coolest dudes I've ever known. He was a machinist. ;)
Very relaxing watching these vids
I work in the aerospace machining industry, its fantastic.
I have Always wondered if the waste materials from milling machines are collected and reused? Otherwise there would be tones of steele around the world that would go to waste.
I really love the setup what is the name of the chain fixture
Probably just a chain fixture or chain cradle fixture.
this is a great video .....but how long will the cutters last ....any carbide cutter will be great brand new .....how accurate will they be after 5 pieces or 10 especially going at that RPM and feet per minute ...I programmed and ran 2 Proto Traks and have used carbide since 1973 , they have come a long way ...many videos but are they good parts ? or real parts ....or just showing off free cutters for the supplier . Don't get me wrong ....it is amazing what cutters can do now and what CNC's can do .....Just how long will they last ?and how many pieces
Most of those operations are fine I use a tool that I can run at 250 m/min at 1.5mm fz and 1.5mm ap it will hold on for a long time and no cooling needed its a tungaloy doofeed mill and it's my favourite tool use it all the time uses all the power of the macine but strangely stil low forces in the workpiece if you are able to I recommend it very much great allround cutter TXN06R063M22.0E06
Dont know how much it costs but whatever it may be it's more than worth its prise
Even the inserts thay have 4 cutting edges and I get 1 month out of them before I have to change them
You can even do pre profiling
I’ve found that carbide drills are usually good for 200-300 holes
@@SuperScottie3000 In what material? I've heard of carbide drills going many thousands, if not tens of thousands of holes.
Oakwood Machine Works yes, I’ve seen smaller solid carbide drills go thousands, I was mostly talking about large (1.5”+) index drills like in the video. They seem to wear out much faster than say a 3/8” solid carbide drill. Most of my experience is in hot rolled mild and alloy steel.
@@SuperScottie3000 you are clearly using chineesium grade carbide man... , that or exotic materials...
very good video..thanks for your time
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2:26 Almost 20 year i never touch this tool 😅 miss this flying chip cutter
It’s been my experience that companies show off their high speeds and feeds in order to sell machines but after a year of it, the machines develop slop in the ways and precision suffers.
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Having worked with seco tools for a few years now i can say, they are one of the few companys whos tools you can actually reliably push hard as shown in promotional videos.
Yup, all those fast starts and stops have to add up. If your part price includes replacement of the machine, you're good. The hidden cost of machine replacement is not only its sticker price but also all the man-tax-hours of the labor that makes the money used to replace the machine.
Depend on how long is your warrancy
I don't even have anything that could dig into cork that deep that fast. Good Lord.
Kindly advice Which milling insert suitable for Duplex 4a&5a Material
Does anyone know a company that offers chain fastening? We are talking about mounting as with the first drilling in the movie
Stevens Engineering in Arizona makes chain fixtures.
На такой станок можно смотреть вечно .
Для этого и показывают.
А ещё как сделать барабан для револьвера и нарезной ствол.
Плюсом штамп, для монет.
That facemill and edgemill.... talk about serious material removal.
3:35 That give me anxiety, I would have 100% chance of breaking that drill bit
Looking at my Mini-CNC
My Mini-CNC: DONT YOU EVEN THINK OF IT!
Когда вернулся из армии
I always skim cut bar stock before any operation.
I understand this is a demonstration, but it is good practice.
5:45 I too choose to use double speak when suppressing competition.
I wanted to see that large hole at the beginning get tapped! After grunting on a cheater bar to try to thread some 3/4 NPT in SS, seeing a machine do it effortlessly is all the more impressive.
La précision mécanique top et terriblement excellent et grandiose et sublime et subtil
beautiful
What type of cooling are you using? Air cooling?
Water+oil
Nice v-block
Nose x q veo a estas maquinas trabajando...q no dicen nada
Is that milky drill, wow yummy
看着很过瘾
no coolant for inconel ? ?
Enchanting
good
THE FROM OR BAY
Eu tava pensando que era um pedaço de madeira
Just think how long it would take to do this by hand.
Nice
Co to jest to białe?
شف الغرب وين وصل وحنا وين وصلنا
هذي تقنيات قديمه وعندنا منها
Bet you can make high quality anvils and striking anvils
Check out edge precision here on YT. He made some nice anvils.
Merece todos os lik
Which software use for this types of program?🙄
Is it Mastercam?🙄
Solidcam😂
Magnifiques
Como foi que eu vim parar aqui?
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Жэсточайшэ
7:20 наши фрезеровщики такой карман и на простом СФ676 сделают простой фрезой из 6РМ5, и нинада им не ЧПУ ни инноваций.
De que material es el cortador que no utiliza refrigerante?
Seco for tools
Deckel maho! sure
看样子很厉害啊
Awesomely mesmerizing! At 4:40 running red hot was to prove a point?
It's because of the insert, the insert is a ceramic insert and not your typical carbide insert. A typical carbide insert shears the material away. Cutting through material like a knife on a microscopic level. whereas a ceramic insert melts the material away, so running coolant is the complete opposite of the ideal cutting condition. Ceramic inserts also have poor thermal shock resistance so even if running coolant was possible the insert wouldn't last very long.
@@rlsweeneyjr1 Hi Richard, the chemical properties produced by ceramic milling/turning are undesirable, for that reason it's not really used for finishing and I'm not 100 percent sure but I think it's rarely used for semi finishing and instead just for hogging as much as possible off a tough material like inconel.
@@rlsweeneyjr1 I used to be a machinist from 16 - 25, then I started my own company CNC programming all over the globe, then I became an applications engineer for one of the largest CAD/CAM companies, I'm still working for the same company but I'm a projects engineer mostly doing post processors.
@@rlsweeneyjr1 no you don't factor in thermal expansion. If thermal expansion was a major problem, tools would therefore break/deform and the workpiece would likely almost always be out of dimension according to the prints
@@Limosical but also depends on material being cut
4:45 :))
My machine does the same shit
What machine
Ok
I have mad skills in machining, too bad the generation behind me doesnt!!
?
Teach them. You can't take it with you.
Станки не впечатлили. Допотопные ЧПУ. Да хоть на перфоленте. А вот инструмент зачётный.