The ending your professor wanted made it a student film. The ending you wanted made it art. I'm happy you didn't let your class get in the way of what you wanted to make, they just didn't understand the message.
Back in the day, he'd probably be turned into the police actually, y'all may think people are sensitive now but if you really think about be it, people used to be a lot more scared of things like this then they are now.
to be honest, Can’t Food made me kinda uncomfortable as well but I think that’s what’s great about it. despite the discomfort i recognized that there was a real and profound message behind the parts that made me uncomfortable and that’s just life
Tejas Gokarn I like how it made me uncomfortable but I feel like it was on purpose as we went through his mind when he didn’t feel comfortable about people making him focus on one thing (the can) then he thought about it..he didn’t like it
I think the reaction to Can't Food from your peers is reflective to pieces exploring the meta, let alone utilizing it for the overall message. Meta as a whole is a finicky thing; some either understand it deeply or not at all, which could've factored for their reaction. Not saying I didn't like Can't Food; I loved it. But seriously, who calls police over a short film?
People who are paranoid I honestly think it was because of the gun and well the electrocution scene. This to some people, people mind you who are probably brainwashed or anti-social to the media can perceive this as OMG ANOTHER COLUMBINE mainly because thats whats been shoved in our faces over and over again.
@@inspectorjavert9868 well, the gun didn't kill anyone (presumably) on the last ending. Just the electric chair that was more like a brain washing chair. But the first ending featured a third cat killing the other cat who just tried to recover the food (in the final ending he turned into an antagonist, but in the first ending there is no proof), then merciless executing the 2D cat, murdering both with a deadly accurate shot in the head. All of this fully displayed on screen and without any censor. If someone gets mad because they see a gun, imo they'd get madder if they saw the characters being murdered without mercy using that gun. The last ending featured blood-crying eyes, which was meant to simulate how 3D sucks life from the cat, and the "electric chair" that took the soul off the animation and transformed it into another of many 3D animations. This work has a deep message, and Jonochrome has made it understandable and set his situation in a really interesting way. Also it's one of the best 2D+3D short animations in RUclips, hands down. Movements aren't forced and frames are perfect. Quite similar to some kind of tom&jerry cartoon
Just watched Can't Food. I found it interesting with a great message, and the fact that people felt uncomfortable and didn't want to show it was a real shame. Happy New Year, my friend. I wish you well in your future endeavours.
I really liked can't food...? Is that bad? It literally speaks upon "going into the unknown" discovering what you arguably don't want to, what you want but you don't want, the symbolism is extremely strong but it doesn't hold it back, the grass ISN'T always greener on the other side, agreeing to disagree, Poor Mr. Cat was presented with a situation and logically thought a way out of it, no matter how ridiculous he came to the conclusion he still came to one! Even if he wasn't ready for the conversation he recognized his true emotions and didn't hold himself back instead of just accepting or settling for whats in front of him, and its arguably his nonacceptance that lead him to the situation he was in, but he didn't give up or accept what was coming, its honestly a really strong message
@@ethanchaotic it was by stinkulitis, i thought u were someone else i knew but it turned out ur like a youtuber and make youtube stuff, im pretty sure im subscribed
As someone who goes to the same college you did (I'm a friend of a friend and was recommended to see the animation by them), it's surreal how much craziness happened from your film. The animation was impactful in a way that should've been respected by your professors, the school, and your fellow students. I hope things are easier now, with the burden of college lifted from your shoulders. Best of luck in your future as an animator, game developer, or whatever you choose to pursue.
"in case you're on a different tab or doing something else..." Thank you for notifying me that you were showing an image, because I was indeed looking at a different tab at the time. There aren't very many RUclipsrs that do that, so thank you.
The issue with the new ending wasn't that it made someone uncomfortable, it made them think. which in itself isn't even an issue. Many people in art school expect a level of mediocrity and not something that cut's through the bullshit and makes a statement. The fact that it made someone "uncomfortable" means that it was worth something. It left an impact on them that made them think about something they normally wouldn't which in my opinion is the point of art. It wasn't a threat, it wasn't some kind of violent act of hatred, it was a unique point of view. Thank you for making this and for sticking to your morals. Wish you the best of luck in whatever endeavor you choose.
Have you ever seen live leak? It literally makes people uncomfortable. The only difference between "can't food" and that is that can't food is animated.
Can't Food is one of the best Animations I've seen all decade. - no joke. The transition between ending up as nothing - the hinting at your own work sort of erasing itself, a speech bubble, etc. and then the transition into deadpan maturity. It's not just good because it's good on it's own, it's good because it's ending is a note of mercy and trust during a time where the entire world is embroidered in conflicts based on lack of trust - hell you put it on youtube, one of the least trusted but most used mediums in the world - in some way, I think that makes it even more meaningful: that it's an ending that got censored somewhat makes it even that much more punchy to me: like you put your soul out and was rejected for it - which is tragic, but otherwise beautiful in it's own way. Every single aspect of Can't Food is art - the lead up to the animation, the process for it, and the aftermath, this introspection and re-telling of the events around it. I'm actually so tired of slapstick cartoons that don't consider consequences or maturity. Can't food has a few funny moments, sure, but it tells a really serious story using a really silly medium and that just isn't very easy to do as well as you've done. I wish I could slap your lecturer in the face for his reaction, and I wish I could do the same to your school. Can't Food deserves the highest score a project like it can get.
I saw this video first and I'll be honest, I'm not sure if I would have gotten the personal subtext. The 2d vs 3d stuff seemed pretty clear but I could easily see myself getting caught up on the story of the "characters" on my first viewing. I guess what I'm trying to say is that transgressive art can be difficult for people to "get" on the first sitting, depending on what their reactions are. That said, I loved the short. Good luck in the new decade!
I find it odd people were put off by Can't Food. I mean the 3D Cat lingering with the gun was unsettling but I pictured it had some sort of meaning to it. What I ultimately took from this was a look at both 2D and 3D art. 2D is simpler look, but the expressions can exaggerated greatly and you can alter the model how you see fit. With 3D, it looks complex, but is actually simple, yet very restrictive. You need to work around the model more, not just with lighting, but even altering my model slightly can make things look... kind of off. And the last bit, seemed to me you simply aren't interested in doing or seeing 3D animation. You don't necessarily hate it, you're just not very into as much as others are, and would rather let things end as peacefully as possible. Yet that 3D cat just won't seem to go away. It's scared to leave, because it doesn't want its food stolen again. It doesn't want 2D to thrive over it.
Teachers: your way=wrong way Sadly a lot of mentors a speciality art ones destroy what is the most important in young artists, individuality. Remmember people to stay yourself! If everyone was the same and was doing exacly same things, world would be sad and boring place.
Sadly a lot of mentors a speciality art ones destroy what is the most important in young artists, individuality. "didn't work for mw why would it work for you?" kind of mentality I feel like if you teach art, something either went very wrong, or very right. dont think most kids think "Gee! one day I want to be a curmudgeonly old art teacher crushing young people's dreams"
ngl when I watched the animation I thought it was gonna be exactly like your professor advised and wasn’t expecting it to both funny, dark, and meaningful.
Im going to steal both of your resolutions. I really need to work on my perfectionism so i can actually finish a game. I also need to think less. The more I think about things the worse they get. Thank you so much jonochrome. You are the first person to make any significant impact on me. I applaud you for that. Thank you.
It sucks that when you make something to expect a different reaction and get praise to only be shut down afterwards and are told to change everything you made. I'm sorry that happened since I loved your animation and how abstract it was to the medium. All I see is a bright future for you after seeing that.
I’ve watched these self-thought videos since you started them and the way you’re handling things now compared to then is night and day. You’ve come a long way Jon
I just want to say on the job part, while I won't pretend to know how having a job will go for you the thing I've found about work is that it's all about tolerance. What can you tolerate doing/handling the stresses of and can the people you are working for in turn tolerate the results you produce? I'm incredibly lucky in that in my job, I can tolerate everything and the people I do services for can almost entirely tolerate my efforts. I wish you the best of luck in whatever job you get into and a fantastic New Year
So, typically when a college or university police get involved is when a student reports something to a teacher where, typically, the teacher has to report it to the higher ups. The higher ups, will take any measures they need (it varies between colleges and universities) which could also include law enforcement or a simple email to the student to seek a concealer. I, myself, have gotten an email and a call from a counselor because of a domestic dispute that was already taken care of by the police which is where I've learned all of this. The police might have gotten involved because he graduated the next day and was no longer an enrolled student, but if there's a lesson to this paragraph it's that: even if it's something small, like people showing concern about someone to a project or feeling uncomfortable because of it, the schools will treat all matters seriously and just want to cover all bases to ensure that everything is well and good. :)
Okay, *you are one of my f*ckin idols.* I'm a wannabe animator, so this speaks *volumes* to me. The fact that you were able to convey such a strong message with animation and it got such a *strong* response is amazing!
Your professor basically wanted something more comedic instead of with an actual meaning. I really enjoyed can’t food, and I don’t understand why people hated it so much.
People likely loved it, the professor just refuses to enjoy the animation simply due to the electric chair. As such, they pulled the strings to make it look like everyone hated it.
I can relate on the working in 3D. It's interesting that the programs automatically creates inbetweens and I can understand why people use it to save time animating, but it's...restrictive. Not that I haven't seen really good and creative 3D animations, but 2D animation isn't restricted by code logic and unexpected errors/glitches
@@lazergurka-smerlin6561 not really.. 2d is just drawing freely in a sequence/animation, 3d is just making a model, rigging that model, and inserting that model into a program for animation
i don’t know how to properly comment lol so 1. That sucks police got involved. 2. Great job on Can’t Food! It’s a good and smooth as heck animation and the subtlety about 2D / 3D animation caught me off guard. and quick question- how’s that game mentioned from the end of the RT2 commentary coming along? is it the same game you’ve been working on mentioned here? p.s. happy new year
It's the same game, yeah. Feels like this might be the year I start making some real progress. Guess we'll see. Happy new year to you, too! (I'm slightly late but the year's still young)
It really makes me question how you can be a form of art professor, and yet believe your vision is better then letting your students use the knowledge they have learned to their advantage and makes something impactful. Then again you did say he was already a weird guy so. Can’t Food is an amazing animation, and honestly I would have loved being you and hearing I made everyone uncomfortable for the fact that I know that they felt something different, something that I would have felt in that situation, or even those years. Art is a representation of our emotions and feelings put into a form of media that can be digested and morphed, its not supposed to make you happy, it’s supposed to make you feel, and thats what Can’t Food did. Amazing work man, truly and honestly!
I really liked Can't Food. I think it really shows how your professor wanted a comedic, light-hearted, animation with no meaning behind it, but when you didnt want to do that, he deemed it unacceptable. I'm really happy you went through and changed the ending. I hope your professor eventually understood why you did that, and if he doesn't, his loss.
That's what I don't like about outside critique like that. Because if you let others change your work it just becomes so wholly different from what the image of the creator wanted it to be. What's the point of art if others can just mangle it like that?
I genuinely enjoyed watching it blind, It was clear there was a theme underneath the goofy cat, it felt more fufilling then your teachers ending, it felt more like art.
I don't often listen to these kinds of videos but I'm glad I did for this one. I personally loved your Can't Food's ending, even if the professor and possibly you classmates didn't find it so appealing. I'm glad you stuck with what felt right for you. Those are also some great resolutions and I hope you've made some sort of progress on it -- whether finding a job, or just enjoying life! Currently in college myself and am unemployed, while also feeling unprepared for the business world. Even so, it's nice coming across and deciding to watch this video to find someone extremely talented finding these struggles and willing to try to push forward. It gives your viewers some sort of hope! I can't wait for what's to come whether it's more art/animations or just seeing a bit to the game you plan on making!
I loved can't food. However, the fact that it was displayed in class.... that WILL shock some people. That's... gotta feel so good to actually display it.
Why I saw...IS magical, it was what made it a perfect ending, I loved everything the animation stood for, I loved the fact that it was surreal, I loved the fact that it was serious, I loved the fact that the cat stopped and spoke in a real-talk situation, and I loved the silent ending, no comedic outcome, but a serious mature ending... Edit: To me, the most important part is near the very end, when 2D kitty stops...and talks to the 3D kitty...as mature individuals and just speaking from the heart, and that reflects into the development of that video, at first having a comedic “ha ha funny joke is funny” (which actually was clever btw), but instead to have a completely different message, a message that felt it came out more from the heart...thank you for that...there is not enough of us in this world whom are willing to open their hearts into what they do...that’s how I feel anyways...whether this gets a response or not doesn’t matter, the fact that I can put my feelings out like this truly is what matters to me...
Yeah, I think I get how you feel. I'm like 24, and I didn't get my first job until a few months ago, and it's just a retail job lol (It ain't all that bad actually, just a joke). Prior to that, I never really made my own money. I just kept getting free stuff all the time, and it made me feel ULTRA guilty. This was the case because my mom said that I should devote ALL of my time into academics, and not even THINK about doing some low-end job on the side. Every time I thought about applying for a part-time job, she was very disapproving. I know she had good intentions, but I think this hella stunted my growth on a social level, and made my general adulting skills quite below par. I'm way better off now that I have a job; I've met all kinds of people, and have already dealt with many crappy situations (though this is true for any kind of job though lol), and, personally, I feel like have GREATLY improved as a person in these short few months. And best of all, I feel a lot more independent. Also, man oh man, I really know that perfectionist feeling; it's caused a lot of trouble for me over the years. It's influenced how I create art/animations, how I make music, nearly all my life decisions (for better or for worse), etc. It's caused me to obsess over the smallest details, it's made me do nearly everything at a snail's pace. Hell, it's even affecting how I'm making this comment, RIGHT NOW lol! It's only been in recent years, that I've been slowly weaning off the perfectionism. I've been forcing myself to draw more unpolished doodles, and found myself adapting to a relatively simplistic art style to get things done quicker (luckily, I love this style). My life has become a lot more relaxed because of this. But still, I don't want to completely discard my perfectionism. Because even though it's a curse, I still think it's also a blessing. I say there's a balance between perfection and imperfection. Sorry for the large block of text lol, I just really empathize with your feelings in this video. Have a Happy New Year! And good luck with any future endeavors! PS: My name is also Jonathan, so the empathy is even LARGER for me lol. Us Jonathans gotta stick together!
Listening to you kind of made me understand you a bit more as a person interestingly enough, and I appreciate you for the content that you create. Please don't feel like you have high expectations on the things you create, just continue being passionate in the things you do and continue with your goals on self-improvement and it will cause you to become an even better content creator. A lot of the things you said really taught me some things about myself as well in fact, so thank you for the podcast/update video/talk thing! lol
'Can't Food' came up randomly in my RUclips recommendations but it got me here because I wanted to know more about it. You said in the video that you were opposed to 3D animation, which reminded me of Sylvain Chomet's 2003 animation 'Les Triplettes de Belleville', which I can't recommend enough if you've never seen it before. Chomet trained as a traditional 2D animator influenced by the likes of Disney, but saw the rise of 3D animation as destructive to the animation industry, taking away from individualism and tradition, swapping out rough edges and fine details for blocky shapes and smooth curves. There's a brilliant sequence later in the film where the main characters are escaping the mafia on a bicycle-powered 2D vehicle while being pursued by henchmen in 3D animated Citroen 2CVs, which are constantly breaking, exploding and falling apart. I wrote my final dissertation report at university on Chomet, so I love getting to talk about his films. Hope whatever comes next for you works out and you can keep making projects like Can't Food. Best of luck! :)
After listening to this I rewatched the ending of can't food and I really think I feel what you're trying to say now I think it was a wonderful message
Been following you for a long time with all your projects and what you’re saying truly speaks to me. As someone who wants to make projects as well and never get anywhere cause of perfection, thanks for sharing some of your wisdom! Hope you do well.
One of the greatest things about art is that it CAN make you uncomfortable. Shame on anyone who doesn't understand how wonderful of a thing that is. Their reaction proves Can't Food's thesis to a tee. Keep diving into the unusual, the unconventional, the uncomfortable.
This reminds me of something that happened back in highschool. Some civics class. We were supposed to write a (hypothetical) bill for the state's law. I wrote an amendment that would patch what I saw as a flaw in the law related to age of consent, in that parts of it were specifically written for male perpetrators and female victims. The teachers took me aside, said "this is going to make everyone uncomfortable", and gave me a cookie-cutter assignment that I didn't care about. Something about legalizing horse racing or something dumb like that, I forget.
Because school is about training kids to work desk jobs and be good little accountants and follow the status quo, people actually thinking and expressing their own feelings? trying to make change? that! is what they don't want.
This was echoed in another comment but that had to have been the professor acting on behalf of "the students" regardless of what they actually thought.
I love how inspiring this is! I'm an artist too, so I understand how sometimes we make things that we're proud of but other people may not see eye to eye with us. I'm still trying to improve my art and it's difficult to do that from trial and error alone. I hope that you're getting past the difficulties you mentioned. Again, thank you for inspiring me.
fear has two kind. survival, and moral. many films use survival fear, and as you realize it's a film it fades away. what you did is moral fear, and that one leaves you thinking. after they saw it they likely where terrified. not for there survival. but for there moral. just like the cat at the end of your animation.
I understand how your class could feel uncomfortable over Can't Food, to be honest I felt uncomfortable during the electric chair scene, but I still understood the overall message about animation and your feelings about it. I really enjoyed Can't Food, and it sucks that it was denied its place at the showcase. Keep on doing what you want to do!
3:02 I'm going into Uni soon and I'm having a similar experience. I've dropped from 4 subjects to 1, and it's Object Oriented Programming. I already program for SunnyTC , my passion project. I'm in the same boat honestly. It's cool to have someone in the same-ish situation.
All artists I love and appreciate are people who didn't learn drawing at School or University. All, all of them are self learning artists! All because they are free to make whatever they want. My University teache me how to draw and broke my free-erness ... They create standards and rules, and you stuck in it.
13:00 its crazy that im so close and yet so far from this stage of life. You are just finishing college, i just started. It doesnt seem like its going to be that long in between those two things... But at the same time, it feels like forever.
YT Police Officer: *knocks on door* Jonochrome: *opens door* YT Police Officer: Sir, we have a few questions about that animation you posted recently... Jonochrome: *CRAP!*
Just saw the animation you talk about in this video and now im watching this. The video was really good. I dont know what to put in the rest of the comment i just hope you do well :)
Honestly "Can't Food" is so tame compared to other student projects I struggle to believe that it made someone "uncomfortable" beyond just making them uncomfortable with the idea that what they teach may not be for everyone
School is always a detriment to creative freedom. personally I am a programmer and me coding my own personal way caused people around me in the scripting community to say its bad and such etc despite it being a creative freedom whenever there is someone saying that there is a "right way" to do something in a creative art it defeats the entire purpose of it being a creative career/hobby Just go with what you want to do and you will most likely succeed
I do like 3D animation and design and gotta admit that for a very brief moment I was like "is this cartoon just about how 2D is without any question better than 3D animation?" but then I started to remember that I havent seen a pixar-disney-illumination-dreamworks whatever movie in years because they are just so sameish and commercial. And the message I got changed, that animated films became more focused on making products than art. But hearing your experience in college really gave your cartoon a different perspective, like the desire to not fit in an industry were they demand people to work and make things in a really specific way. Being pushed to make things in a way that you are not particularly interested nor prominent can be really discouraging. I dont believe that any of your classmates felt unconfortable nor think that your project guaranted a psychological profiling session with the campus police, I dont know what your professor got from it but if he preferred a funny haha the cartoon cat got shot in the head joke over the ending that has something to say, well thats just pretty bizarre. Your projects look great and I hope you have great success in the future.
That’s school for you. Your idea= bad Teacher idea=good Two years ago I had to create some kind of foldable party head aimed for singles. I got pretty far in my ideas and had much of it worked out. However, nearly every idea I had, they yelled at me about how bad and confusing it was. Even one self made envelope I made got bad feedback cause one teacher didn’t liked lines to write on I made for it.
I can't believe you got reported for your animation it's funny but also pretty stupid. The new short was way cooler and surreal, I loved it dude. I don't know you, but I'm super proud how you had balls to challenge a flaky professor and not only that, but put the work in dude. I'm really used to covering my ass during art classes and it's pretty boring, so what you said is pretty profound to me.
Damn this convo hit deep. Now you got me rethinking about my life. Good luck on your future career and to who ever reads this, Good luck to you aswell!
I don't know how I should feel about this. It's extremely uncomfortable, which I assume was the goal for this video. However, it's far beyond educational and it says a lot about me. It's hard to talk about these kinds of things by yourself, and it's really helpful for someone else leap the jump and build a bridge for those not willing to do it. So, thanks for this.
The ending your professor wanted made it a student film. The ending you wanted made it art.
I'm happy you didn't let your class get in the way of what you wanted to make, they just didn't understand the message.
Sorry, I don’t like to use this word but that first sentence was cringe.
DemonDog dude noone cares
@@chemolcalico6792 I ges u dont
@@NickolasRussomanno in what way?
jUG05 reread the first paragraph
Imagine calling the police on someone because you got "uncomfortable" watching their animation.
@CapiTools now days just saying a simple thing and people will get offended and they will spit on your face
Its the medias fault and what they're teaching in schools their turning people into cowards afraid of the tiniest things now.
Back in the day, he'd probably be turned into the police actually, y'all may think people are sensitive now but if you really think about be it, people used to be a lot more scared of things like this then they are now.
@@goodolmeplant5809 While your statement holds truth I do honestly believe that the paranoia and fear has slightly worsened over the years
Dynamo that’s campo for you
to be honest, Can’t Food made me kinda uncomfortable as well but I think that’s what’s great about it. despite the discomfort i recognized that there was a real and profound message behind the parts that made me uncomfortable and that’s just life
Tejas Gokarn I like how it made me uncomfortable but I feel like it was on purpose as we went through his mind when he didn’t feel comfortable about people making him focus on one thing (the can) then he thought about it..he didn’t like it
I liked it but yeah, some parts had me uncomfortable.
well, can’t food didn’t make me uncomfortable, i absolutely loved it
same!
You saw a cat get shot, put in an a electric chair, and see him get turned to dust. You didn’t feel at least a little uncomfortable?
@@NickolasRussomanno nope, once you finish 'run the gauntlet' stuff like this doesn't bother me
@@NickolasRussomanno was he thanos snapped?
@@NickolasRussomanno but i wouldnt "call the police"
I think the reaction to Can't Food from your peers is reflective to pieces exploring the meta, let alone utilizing it for the overall message. Meta as a whole is a finicky thing; some either understand it deeply or not at all, which could've factored for their reaction. Not saying I didn't like Can't Food; I loved it.
But seriously, who calls police over a short film?
People who are paranoid I honestly think it was because of the gun and well the electrocution scene. This to some people, people mind you who are probably brainwashed or anti-social to the media can perceive this as OMG ANOTHER COLUMBINE mainly because thats whats been shoved in our faces over and over again.
@@inspectorjavert9868 well, the gun didn't kill anyone (presumably) on the last ending. Just the electric chair that was more like a brain washing chair. But the first ending featured a third cat killing the other cat who just tried to recover the food (in the final ending he turned into an antagonist, but in the first ending there is no proof), then merciless executing the 2D cat, murdering both with a deadly accurate shot in the head. All of this fully displayed on screen and without any censor. If someone gets mad because they see a gun, imo they'd get madder if they saw the characters being murdered without mercy using that gun. The last ending featured blood-crying eyes, which was meant to simulate how 3D sucks life from the cat, and the "electric chair" that took the soul off the animation and transformed it into another of many 3D animations. This work has a deep message, and Jonochrome has made it understandable and set his situation in a really interesting way. Also it's one of the best 2D+3D short animations in RUclips, hands down. Movements aren't forced and frames are perfect. Quite similar to some kind of tom&jerry cartoon
Just watched Can't Food. I found it interesting with a great message, and the fact that people felt uncomfortable and didn't want to show it was a real shame. Happy New Year, my friend. I wish you well in your future endeavours.
I felt it was supposed to make you think, that it was supposed to make you uncomfortable.
the only creepy thing was the 3D cat crying blood
I really liked can't food...? Is that bad? It literally speaks upon "going into the unknown" discovering what you arguably don't want to, what you want but you don't want, the symbolism is extremely strong but it doesn't hold it back, the grass ISN'T always greener on the other side, agreeing to disagree, Poor Mr. Cat was presented with a situation and logically thought a way out of it, no matter how ridiculous he came to the conclusion he still came to one! Even if he wasn't ready for the conversation he recognized his true emotions and didn't hold himself back instead of just accepting or settling for whats in front of him, and its arguably his nonacceptance that lead him to the situation he was in, but he didn't give up or accept what was coming, its honestly a really strong message
No, it's not bad.
woah, ive seen u before, like had a full convo with u, thats goofy
@@MrGaxiolaX haha really? I dony remember
@@ethanchaotic it was by stinkulitis, i thought u were someone else i knew but it turned out ur like a youtuber and make youtube stuff, im pretty sure im subscribed
I do not believe your classmates were offended. I am 100% your Professor was behind this, and nothing that anyone says can convince me otherwise
Ikr. The "why...???" Thing especially makes me think that
I agree, it was likely his professor.
When he mentioned the police just after the professor's _why_ i thought "oh no something happened to the professor"
Im glad he's ok
...right?
As someone who goes to the same college you did (I'm a friend of a friend and was recommended to see the animation by them), it's surreal how much craziness happened from your film. The animation was impactful in a way that should've been respected by your professors, the school, and your fellow students. I hope things are easier now, with the burden of college lifted from your shoulders. Best of luck in your future as an animator, game developer, or whatever you choose to pursue.
"in case you're on a different tab or doing something else..."
Thank you for notifying me that you were showing an image, because I was indeed looking at a different tab at the time. There aren't very many RUclipsrs that do that, so thank you.
The issue with the new ending wasn't that it made someone uncomfortable, it made them think. which in itself isn't even an issue. Many people in art school expect a level of mediocrity and not something that cut's through the bullshit and makes a statement. The fact that it made someone "uncomfortable" means that it was worth something. It left an impact on them that made them think about something they normally wouldn't which in my opinion is the point of art. It wasn't a threat, it wasn't some kind of violent act of hatred, it was a unique point of view. Thank you for making this and for sticking to your morals. Wish you the best of luck in whatever endeavor you choose.
I’m not gonna
Have you ever seen live leak?
It literally makes people uncomfortable. The only difference between "can't food" and that is that can't food is animated.
Can't Food is one of the best Animations I've seen all decade. - no joke.
The transition between ending up as nothing - the hinting at your own work sort of erasing itself, a speech bubble, etc.
and then the transition into deadpan maturity.
It's not just good because it's good on it's own, it's good because it's ending is a note of mercy and trust during a time where the entire world is embroidered in conflicts based on lack of trust - hell you put it on youtube, one of the least trusted but most used mediums in the world - in some way, I think that makes it even more meaningful: that it's an ending that got censored somewhat makes it even that much more punchy to me: like you put your soul out and was rejected for it - which is tragic, but otherwise beautiful in it's own way.
Every single aspect of Can't Food is art - the lead up to the animation, the process for it, and the aftermath, this introspection and re-telling of the events around it.
I'm actually so tired of slapstick cartoons that don't consider consequences or maturity. Can't food has a few funny moments, sure, but it tells a really serious story using a really silly medium and that just isn't very easy to do as well as you've done.
I wish I could slap your lecturer in the face for his reaction, and I wish I could do the same to your school. Can't Food deserves the highest score a project like it can get.
I saw this video first and I'll be honest, I'm not sure if I would have gotten the personal subtext. The 2d vs 3d stuff seemed pretty clear but I could easily see myself getting caught up on the story of the "characters" on my first viewing. I guess what I'm trying to say is that transgressive art can be difficult for people to "get" on the first sitting, depending on what their reactions are.
That said, I loved the short. Good luck in the new decade!
I find it odd people were put off by Can't Food. I mean the 3D Cat lingering with the gun was unsettling but I pictured it had some sort of meaning to it.
What I ultimately took from this was a look at both 2D and 3D art. 2D is simpler look, but the expressions can exaggerated greatly and you can alter the model how you see fit.
With 3D, it looks complex, but is actually simple, yet very restrictive. You need to work around the model more, not just with lighting, but even altering my model slightly can make things look... kind of off.
And the last bit, seemed to me you simply aren't interested in doing or seeing 3D animation. You don't necessarily hate it, you're just not very into as much as others are, and would rather let things end as peacefully as possible. Yet that 3D cat just won't seem to go away. It's scared to leave, because it doesn't want its food stolen again. It doesn't want 2D to thrive over it.
Your ending is much better imo. I’m leaving high school this year and watching it is making me rethink some plans
Teachers:
your way=wrong way
Sadly a lot of mentors a speciality art ones destroy what is the most important in young artists, individuality. Remmember people to stay yourself! If everyone was the same and was doing exacly same things, world would be sad and boring place.
yeah, Jonochrome usually won’t do drafts, and I respect him for that.
Sadly a lot of mentors a speciality art ones destroy what is the most important in young artists, individuality.
"didn't work for mw why would it work for you?" kind of mentality
I feel like if you teach art, something either went very wrong, or very right. dont think most kids think "Gee! one day I want to be a curmudgeonly old art teacher crushing young people's dreams"
ngl when I watched the animation I thought it was gonna be exactly like your professor advised and wasn’t expecting it to both funny, dark, and meaningful.
Im going to steal both of your resolutions. I really need to work on my perfectionism so i can actually finish a game. I also need to think less. The more I think about things the worse they get. Thank you so much jonochrome. You are the first person to make any significant impact on me. I applaud you for that. Thank you.
You have many love brudah
I will remember to take “good enough is good enough” to heart. Though I’ve heard it before, it has more meaning in the context of his experiences.
It sucks that when you make something to expect a different reaction and get praise to only be shut down afterwards and are told to change everything you made. I'm sorry that happened since I loved your animation and how abstract it was to the medium. All I see is a bright future for you after seeing that.
I’ve watched these self-thought videos since you started them and the way you’re handling things now compared to then is night and day. You’ve come a long way Jon
I literally came in seeing Can't Food going haha funny cat
I stayed because you intimidate me.
Wow. Someone was so scared, or maybe worse offended by your genuine work that they called LAW ENFORCEMENT on you? What is wrong with people?
I just want to say on the job part, while I won't pretend to know how having a job will go for you the thing I've found about work is that it's all about tolerance. What can you tolerate doing/handling the stresses of and can the people you are working for in turn tolerate the results you produce?
I'm incredibly lucky in that in my job, I can tolerate everything and the people I do services for can almost entirely tolerate my efforts. I wish you the best of luck in whatever job you get into and a fantastic New Year
Schools have bad blood with guns.
it was probably more along the lines of concern for his mental well-being and making sure he wasn’t going to harm himself or other students.
So, typically when a college or university police get involved is when a student reports something to a teacher where, typically, the teacher has to report it to the higher ups. The higher ups, will take any measures they need (it varies between colleges and universities) which could also include law enforcement or a simple email to the student to seek a concealer. I, myself, have gotten an email and a call from a counselor because of a domestic dispute that was already taken care of by the police which is where I've learned all of this. The police might have gotten involved because he graduated the next day and was no longer an enrolled student, but if there's a lesson to this paragraph it's that: even if it's something small, like people showing concern about someone to a project or feeling uncomfortable because of it, the schools will treat all matters seriously and just want to cover all bases to ensure that everything is well and good. :)
Hmm, well you know you are a person so are you not apart of people?
Okay, *you are one of my f*ckin idols.*
I'm a wannabe animator, so this speaks *volumes* to me.
The fact that you were able to convey such a strong message with animation and it got such a *strong* response is amazing!
Your professor basically wanted something more comedic instead of with an actual meaning. I really enjoyed can’t food, and I don’t understand why people hated it so much.
Fexa the Houndour Wel...
We live in a society.
People likely loved it, the professor just refuses to enjoy the animation simply due to the electric chair. As such, they pulled the strings to make it look like everyone hated it.
Where did you get that people hated it?
I can relate on the working in 3D. It's interesting that the programs automatically creates inbetweens and I can understand why people use it to save time animating, but it's...restrictive. Not that I haven't seen really good and creative 3D animations, but 2D animation isn't restricted by code logic and unexpected errors/glitches
*cough* sfm :( *cough*
Well I guess it's because 3D really is just 2d animation made by computers
@@lazergurka-smerlin6561 not really.. 2d is just drawing freely in a sequence/animation, 3d is just making a model, rigging that model, and inserting that model into a program for animation
@@woof-io Don't forget the rendering
@@improduxions4701 that too.. it's pretty big process for both 2d and 3d.
i don’t know how to properly comment lol so
1. That sucks police got involved.
2. Great job on Can’t Food! It’s a good and smooth as heck animation and the subtlety about 2D / 3D animation caught me off guard.
and quick question- how’s that game mentioned from the end of the RT2 commentary coming along? is it the same game you’ve been working on mentioned here?
p.s. happy new year
It's the same game, yeah. Feels like this might be the year I start making some real progress. Guess we'll see.
Happy new year to you, too! (I'm slightly late but the year's still young)
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It really makes me question how you can be a form of art professor, and yet believe your vision is better then letting your students use the knowledge they have learned to their advantage and makes something impactful. Then again you did say he was already a weird guy so.
Can’t Food is an amazing animation, and honestly I would have loved being you and hearing I made everyone uncomfortable for the fact that I know that they felt something different, something that I would have felt in that situation, or even those years. Art is a representation of our emotions and feelings put into a form of media that can be digested and morphed, its not supposed to make you happy, it’s supposed to make you feel, and thats what Can’t Food did. Amazing work man, truly and honestly!
I really liked Can't Food. I think it really shows how your professor wanted a comedic, light-hearted, animation with no meaning behind it, but when you didnt want to do that, he deemed it unacceptable. I'm really happy you went through and changed the ending. I hope your professor eventually understood why you did that, and if he doesn't, his loss.
Description: “Here’s to a wonderful year!”
Me: Oho, he has no idea what’s coming.
That's what I don't like about outside critique like that. Because if you let others change your work it just becomes so wholly different from what the image of the creator wanted it to be. What's the point of art if others can just mangle it like that?
Waveform I feel like letting others change ones work to a degree is important, but one should carefully consider any changes suggested
Its called "learning", thats the point of going to college.
Your experience just gave me more faith in my work and validated my experience in art school. Thanks for sharing this.❤
I genuinely enjoyed watching it blind, It was clear there was a theme underneath the goofy cat, it felt more fufilling then your teachers ending, it felt more like art.
honestly i like the old ending because it was funny but i understand and love the ending you wanted
I don't often listen to these kinds of videos but I'm glad I did for this one.
I personally loved your Can't Food's ending, even if the professor and possibly you classmates didn't find it so appealing. I'm glad you stuck with what felt right for you.
Those are also some great resolutions and I hope you've made some sort of progress on it -- whether finding a job, or just enjoying life! Currently in college myself and am unemployed, while also feeling unprepared for the business world. Even so, it's nice coming across and deciding to watch this video to find someone extremely talented finding these struggles and willing to try to push forward. It gives your viewers some sort of hope! I can't wait for what's to come whether it's more art/animations or just seeing a bit to the game you plan on making!
Congrats on Graduating!
Here's to another year of unknown-ness
I just thought Can't Food was abstract horror. Knowing the story behind it makes it way cooler.
I loved can't food. However, the fact that it was displayed in class.... that WILL shock some people. That's... gotta feel so good to actually display it.
I remember watching Can't Food when it was uploaded, and just watched it again. Floored me just as much then as it did now.
Why I saw...IS magical, it was what made it a perfect ending, I loved everything the animation stood for, I loved the fact that it was surreal, I loved the fact that it was serious, I loved the fact that the cat stopped and spoke in a real-talk situation, and I loved the silent ending, no comedic outcome, but a serious mature ending...
Edit: To me, the most important part is near the very end, when 2D kitty stops...and talks to the 3D kitty...as mature individuals and just speaking from the heart, and that reflects into the development of that video, at first having a comedic “ha ha funny joke is funny” (which actually was clever btw), but instead to have a completely different message, a message that felt it came out more from the heart...thank you for that...there is not enough of us in this world whom are willing to open their hearts into what they do...that’s how I feel anyways...whether this gets a response or not doesn’t matter, the fact that I can put my feelings out like this truly is what matters to me...
Yeah, I think I get how you feel.
I'm like 24, and I didn't get my first job until a few months ago, and it's just a retail job lol (It ain't all that bad actually, just a joke).
Prior to that, I never really made my own money. I just kept getting free stuff all the time, and it made me feel ULTRA guilty. This was the case because my mom said that I should devote ALL of my time into academics, and not even THINK about doing some low-end job on the side. Every time I thought about applying for a part-time job, she was very disapproving. I know she had good intentions, but I think this hella stunted my growth on a social level, and made my general adulting skills quite below par. I'm way better off now that I have a job; I've met all kinds of people, and have already dealt with many crappy situations (though this is true for any kind of job though lol), and, personally, I feel like have GREATLY improved as a person in these short few months.
And best of all, I feel a lot more independent.
Also, man oh man, I really know that perfectionist feeling; it's caused a lot of trouble for me over the years. It's influenced how I create art/animations, how I make music, nearly all my life decisions (for better or for worse), etc. It's caused me to obsess over the smallest details, it's made me do nearly everything at a snail's pace. Hell, it's even affecting how I'm making this comment, RIGHT NOW lol! It's only been in recent years, that I've been slowly weaning off the perfectionism. I've been forcing myself to draw more unpolished doodles, and found myself adapting to a relatively simplistic art style to get things done quicker (luckily, I love this style). My life has become a lot more relaxed because of this.
But still, I don't want to completely discard my perfectionism. Because even though it's a curse, I still think it's also a blessing.
I say there's a balance between perfection and imperfection.
Sorry for the large block of text lol, I just really empathize with your feelings in this video.
Have a Happy New Year! And good luck with any future endeavors!
PS:
My name is also Jonathan, so the empathy is even LARGER for me lol.
Us Jonathans gotta stick together!
I want to wish everyone a New Year!
Into the UnknOoooOOOOOoOOown!
Listening to you kind of made me understand you a bit more as a person interestingly enough, and I appreciate you for the content that you create. Please don't feel like you have high expectations on the things you create, just continue being passionate in the things you do and continue with your goals on self-improvement and it will cause you to become an even better content creator. A lot of the things you said really taught me some things about myself as well in fact, so thank you for the podcast/update video/talk thing! lol
This is for real such a good commentary of Can't Food, it's probably one of my favorite short films because of it.
'Can't Food' came up randomly in my RUclips recommendations but it got me here because I wanted to know more about it. You said in the video that you were opposed to 3D animation, which reminded me of Sylvain Chomet's 2003 animation 'Les Triplettes de Belleville', which I can't recommend enough if you've never seen it before. Chomet trained as a traditional 2D animator influenced by the likes of Disney, but saw the rise of 3D animation as destructive to the animation industry, taking away from individualism and tradition, swapping out rough edges and fine details for blocky shapes and smooth curves. There's a brilliant sequence later in the film where the main characters are escaping the mafia on a bicycle-powered 2D vehicle while being pursued by henchmen in 3D animated Citroen 2CVs, which are constantly breaking, exploding and falling apart. I wrote my final dissertation report at university on Chomet, so I love getting to talk about his films.
Hope whatever comes next for you works out and you can keep making projects like Can't Food. Best of luck! :)
After listening to this I rewatched the ending of can't food and I really think I feel what you're trying to say now
I think it was a wonderful message
In amongst everything else, your voice is very relaxing.
Been following you for a long time with all your projects and what you’re saying truly speaks to me. As someone who wants to make projects as well and never get anywhere cause of perfection, thanks for sharing some of your wisdom! Hope you do well.
It actually has a good message behind it that makes you think, unlike the original. The original ending is comedic but just doesn't speak out as much.
One of the greatest things about art is that it CAN make you uncomfortable.
Shame on anyone who doesn't understand how wonderful of a thing that is.
Their reaction proves Can't Food's thesis to a tee.
Keep diving into the unusual, the unconventional, the uncomfortable.
Student: does something different and thought-provoking
Everyone else: better call the police
I'm honestly really happy Can't Food has gotten the attention it deserves. Back when it first came out I tried so hard to get the word out via Reddit.
Making something unsettling to some people is a great part of art!
It made me very uncomfortable, but I pushed through. By the end, I found it profound. Thank you for making it
If they were “uncomfortable” they mustn’t have seen a Scorsese or a Tarantino movie, like, it was uncomfortable, but a good kind of uncomfortable.
I can’t believe it’s the end of the 2010’s.
It's saddening
Not to be rude but, your profile picture looks like Wreck it Ralph.
Red Panda lmao yeah
This reminds me of something that happened back in highschool. Some civics class. We were supposed to write a (hypothetical) bill for the state's law. I wrote an amendment that would patch what I saw as a flaw in the law related to age of consent, in that parts of it were specifically written for male perpetrators and female victims. The teachers took me aside, said "this is going to make everyone uncomfortable", and gave me a cookie-cutter assignment that I didn't care about. Something about legalizing horse racing or something dumb like that, I forget.
Because school is about training kids to work desk jobs and be good little accountants and follow the status quo,
people actually thinking and expressing their own feelings?
trying to make change?
that! is what they don't want.
Wish you luck on all of your resolutions and I hope to see more of your work here! ❤️
Happy New Year, everyone! I can’t believe that we’ve gone through a decade already!
I'm happy that you stuck with it and made the actual ending that you wanted.
The irl mario party is legit one of the most wholesome things i habe ever seen
This was echoed in another comment but that had to have been the professor acting on behalf of "the students" regardless of what they actually thought.
I love how inspiring this is! I'm an artist too, so I understand how sometimes we make things that we're proud of but other people may not see eye to eye with us. I'm still trying to improve my art and it's difficult to do that from trial and error alone. I hope that you're getting past the difficulties you mentioned. Again, thank you for inspiring me.
fear has two kind. survival, and moral.
many films use survival fear, and as you realize it's a film it fades away.
what you did is moral fear, and that one leaves you thinking.
after they saw it they likely where terrified. not for there survival. but for there moral.
just like the cat at the end of your animation.
I understand how your class could feel uncomfortable over Can't Food, to be honest I felt uncomfortable during the electric chair scene, but I still understood the overall message about animation and your feelings about it. I really enjoyed Can't Food, and it sucks that it was denied its place at the showcase. Keep on doing what you want to do!
I really needed to hear this in general. Again thanks❤
As a student going here. Thank you for posting this and helping everyone and bringing this to light
Go gettem dude!👍 Art is a passion do what makes you happy.
3:02 I'm going into Uni soon and I'm having a similar experience. I've dropped from 4 subjects to 1, and it's Object Oriented Programming. I already program for SunnyTC , my passion project. I'm in the same boat honestly. It's cool to have someone in the same-ish situation.
Best of success with your resolutions. You deserve to succeed with them :)
I like how form the original ending he ended up reusing the ending head shot scene for the final project
All artists I love and appreciate are people who didn't learn drawing at School or University. All, all of them are self learning artists! All because they are free to make whatever they want.
My University teache me how to draw and broke my free-erness ... They create standards and rules, and you stuck in it.
i need to know why the person that got so uncomfortable by that that they notified the campus... did that. That is odd to me on so many levels.
I hope you have a good next decade Jono.
Why are good people like u so underrated?? I’ll never understand!
can’t wait for the new year
12:05 I hadn’t realized that I didn’t feel that way in a long time as well.
I think that’s a great resolution.
Art disturbs the comfortable and comforts the disturbed
Can’t food made me uncomfortable but at the same time I watched it multiple times because of the good animation and it’s meaning :>
Can’t Food is a masterpiece. No-one can tell me otherwise.
13:00 its crazy that im so close and yet so far from this stage of life. You are just finishing college, i just started. It doesnt seem like its going to be that long in between those two things... But at the same time, it feels like forever.
happy new year
YT Police Officer: *knocks on door*
Jonochrome: *opens door*
YT Police Officer: Sir, we have a few questions about that animation you posted recently...
Jonochrome: *CRAP!*
That was really depressing.
Just saw the animation you talk about in this video and now im watching this. The video was really good. I dont know what to put in the rest of the comment i just hope you do well :)
Honestly "Can't Food" is so tame compared to other student projects I struggle to believe that it made someone "uncomfortable" beyond just making them uncomfortable with the idea that what they teach may not be for everyone
Wow! Glad you got out of there, with a bang as well.
School is always a detriment to creative freedom.
personally I am a programmer and me coding my own personal way caused people around me in the scripting community to say its bad and such etc despite it being a creative freedom
whenever there is someone saying that there is a "right way" to do something in a creative art it defeats the entire purpose of it being a creative career/hobby
Just go with what you want to do and you will most likely succeed
Happy New Year!
I do like 3D animation and design and gotta admit that for a very brief moment I was like "is this cartoon just about how 2D is without any question better than 3D animation?" but then I started to remember that I havent seen a pixar-disney-illumination-dreamworks whatever movie in years because they are just so sameish and commercial. And the message I got changed, that animated films became more focused on making products than art.
But hearing your experience in college really gave your cartoon a different perspective, like the desire to not fit in an industry were they demand people to work and make things in a really specific way. Being pushed to make things in a way that you are not particularly interested nor prominent can be really discouraging.
I dont believe that any of your classmates felt unconfortable nor think that your project guaranted a psychological profiling session with the campus police, I dont know what your professor got from it but if he preferred a funny haha the cartoon cat got shot in the head joke over the ending that has something to say, well thats just pretty bizarre.
Your projects look great and I hope you have great success in the future.
Wow. Cant believe my adhd got me so far in the video. I wouldve probably dozed off at this point but this, this is beautiful.
That’s school for you.
Your idea= bad
Teacher idea=good
Two years ago I had to create some kind of foldable party head aimed for singles. I got pretty far in my ideas and had much of it worked out.
However, nearly every idea I had, they yelled at me about how bad and confusing it was.
Even one self made envelope I made got bad feedback cause one teacher didn’t liked lines to write on I made for it.
professor's idea 4:58
I can't believe you got reported for your animation it's funny but also pretty stupid. The new short was way cooler and surreal, I loved it dude.
I don't know you, but I'm super proud how you had balls to challenge a flaky professor and not only that, but put the work in dude. I'm really used to covering my ass during art classes and it's pretty boring, so what you said is pretty profound to me.
As soon as I saw the scene with the 2d cat being shot by the clay cat, everything clicked.
Damn this convo hit deep. Now you got me rethinking about my life. Good luck on your future career and to who ever reads this, Good luck to you aswell!
I don't know how I should feel about this.
It's extremely uncomfortable, which I assume was the goal for this video.
However, it's far beyond educational and it says a lot about me.
It's hard to talk about these kinds of things by yourself, and it's really helpful for someone else leap the jump and build a bridge for those not willing to do it. So, thanks for this.
Its very nice to listen to you! You have a great voice and what you have to say is very interesting
The old ending feels so weird
The 2010s was pretty neat for Jonochrome. What could possibly happen for the 2020s?