Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995) CUT COMPARISON

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2018
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  • @DeadMeat
    @DeadMeat 5 лет назад +1364

    ►►**WARNING: FLASHING LIGHTS AT **2:55**, **3:05**, **3:14**, **3:41**, **7:20**, **11:24**, and **14:35* *
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  • @christianc.christian5025
    @christianc.christian5025 3 года назад +1015

    "Too skinny and her chin is too pointy..."
    Seeing as how the actress is really hot and it's the Weinsteins, I'm going to go ahead and guess what actually happened to 'piss them off.'

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 3 года назад +291

      According to the story, they also hated Donald because they considered him 'too old and boring' which is why they kept trying to cut his role smaller. So yes, GARBAGE PEOPLE.

    • @christianc.christian5025
      @christianc.christian5025 3 года назад +69

      @@SuperCosmicMutantSquid I think this is one of the most agreeable statements you could utter on RUclips.

    • @mrdreamy1747
      @mrdreamy1747 3 года назад +64

      Why can't film makers have more respect toward actors, man?

    • @christianc.christian5025
      @christianc.christian5025 3 года назад +84

      @@mrdreamy1747 I think they just have a general disrespect toward all people, and because they view actors as replaceable, they try to plug 'ordinary' people into acting jobs in order to gain leverage over them.

    • @greenrandall143
      @greenrandall143 3 года назад +28

      @@mrdreamy1747 I don’t think it’s filmmakers in general I just think it’s trash people givin power

  • @Crypttv
    @Crypttv 5 лет назад +2787

    New series...who dis?

  • @patrickkanas3874
    @patrickkanas3874 4 года назад +498

    The movie was actually being medically accurate when showing the doctors not removing the knife until Jamie was in surgery

    • @DeepEye1994
      @DeepEye1994 2 года назад +35

      Exactly, I'm still SO pissed when in "Starship Troopers" they remove that piece of Arachnid that bit into Dizzy, DON'T REMOVE IT YOU IDIOTS, that's the only thing that's at least keeping the hemorrhage as closed as possible!!! She could have survived it damn it

    • @OnlyDanFN
      @OnlyDanFN Год назад +3

      @@DeepEye1994 DIZZZY !!!!!!! yep as soon as they removed that she was done..

  • @TheMaury101
    @TheMaury101 4 года назад +673

    Just wanna put it out there, the knife being removed while she’s on the operating table is how it’s treated in real life. If an object(this case the knife) has punctured say an artery or vein, the only thing keeping the Vic from bleeding to death is the knife, so generally it is removed while on the operating table so the surgeons can stop any life threatening bleeding and close up the wound.
    I apologize and Excuse me for any grammatical errors.

    • @stephiiiless
      @stephiiiless 3 года назад +14

      Yup they have to cut it out
      happened to my by he was involved in a horrible stabbing being stabbed as he was walking out the door of a bar into a group fighting each other so he got attacked and was stabbed bad t h e knife was stuck all the way into his side only the handle out , entire blade in him. Fuckers almost killed him. Inches away from knicking his lung.
      Had to have surgery and they had to cut the knife out. My bf was in such shock when it happened he tried to pull it out and thankfully he couldn't it wouldn't even move one bit. It was so bad. And just nasty having to clean that cut it was massive since they had to cut the knife out.

    • @gjk2012
      @gjk2012 3 года назад +1

      The guy in the video isn't very smart about taking out the knife before going to the hospital.

    • @itsleetv935
      @itsleetv935 3 года назад +21

      @@gjk2012 duh he’s not a doctor....

    • @karmasupreme7973
      @karmasupreme7973 3 года назад +5

      That was literally perfect English...

    • @tanyalebean3695
      @tanyalebean3695 3 года назад +2

      thought of that while he questions it
      like, "ain't that a good thing?"

  • @TheCynicalAutist
    @TheCynicalAutist 5 лет назад +2200

    This entire channel is actually making me interested in horror, something I'd never thought would happen. Thanks for making videos, man!

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 5 лет назад +51

      Not interested in horror? Oh god.. I couldn't live without horror movies.

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 5 лет назад +51

      @@cookiesontoast9981 It's just not my thing. At least not when I was easily scared back in the day. It didn't seem fun to me to deliberately scare myself. Now that I've grown up, I get the appeal, although more in terms of the techniques they use for gore, the psychology of the murderers etc.

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 5 лет назад +12

      @SpoonForkSpork It's really fun. I watched the newest Halloween last week and really enjoyed it.

    • @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917
      @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 5 лет назад +3

      Same

    • @nolanc9432
      @nolanc9432 4 года назад +1

      Me too

  • @CAITLIN-gz8li
    @CAITLIN-gz8li 5 лет назад +227

    holy shit I loved James pulling in a new james 😂😂

    • @CAITLIN-gz8li
      @CAITLIN-gz8li 5 лет назад

      Givani De La Cerda lmao when he compared the cuts

  • @ralph5214
    @ralph5214 2 года назад +85

    I think the producer's cut ending is a cool closure to that era of Halloween films before they went onto H20. Loomis being cursed with Thorn and forced as their new leader has a "we're destined to do this forever" vibe followed by the jack o lantern candle being blown out. it's a haunting and cool ending.

  • @clubsnatcher
    @clubsnatcher 5 лет назад +276

    "The power of the runes stopped him" - where can I get that on a shirt?

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 лет назад +5

      Which yet it didn't because he still got out the circle with no problem.

    • @FireRogueWolf25
      @FireRogueWolf25 5 лет назад +1

      @@thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar He go out by giving Dr. Winn the curse

    • @_theWAVman_
      @_theWAVman_ 4 года назад +7

      The Halloween Warrior he’s asking for a damn shirt not for you to explain the damn story

    • @alucard624
      @alucard624 4 года назад +3

      Make it yourself or have someone make it for you. I've done that before with several lines I've heard from sci fi and horror flicks. Plenty of T-shirt companies out there will make custom shirts for you.

  • @darko-hexar
    @darko-hexar 5 лет назад +235

    Your comparison of both movies at the very end, with their pros and cons, oddly reminded me of Professor Oak grading my photos in Pokemon Snap, lol

    • @Metrion77
      @Metrion77 5 лет назад +1

      You were close.

    • @joenuts8227
      @joenuts8227 5 лет назад

      Haha
      “Well my student, this cut comparison is good, I give you... A CHARIZARD!!!!”

  • @TellItAnimated
    @TellItAnimated 5 лет назад +982

    Awesome new series James! I've never seen the Producer's Cut before so it was interesting seeing what they changed. Wish they kept more of Loomis in the theatrical cut, that man is a legend and always added so much gravitas to a series even when the story lacked.

  • @elitebelt
    @elitebelt 5 лет назад +731

    That producer's version seems LEAGUES better than the theatrical. While it still isn't the best, it at least makes a lot of sense, and is way better than the other, more dumbed down and silly version. The only thing it lacked was memorable kills, which I guess the theatrical version sort of had, mostly just with the electrical head explosion kill.

    • @Nestalgba92023
      @Nestalgba92023 5 лет назад +2

      However, the final frontier did suck, like "objectively".

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 4 года назад +8

      Yea Michael rapping his niece is alot better

    • @johnepants
      @johnepants 4 года назад +31

      There are aspects of the Producers cut that are better, like the music and the pacing. The only better thing about the theatrical cut was that it did give the impression that Michael was pure evil that was only contained, and not controlled, by the cult, and eventually, he ends them after too much interference on their part.

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 4 года назад +18

      The Halloween franchise was never really about memorable kills or gore though. Halloween 1 and 2 are both pretty tame, but made up for it in better suspense and rooting for the characters. Same with 4 and 5 with Jamie Lloyd, though those weren't as good, i did enjoy 4 a lot.

    • @alucard624
      @alucard624 4 года назад +6

      @@Noobie2k7 Thank you. Halloween was always better when it concentrated on suspense and build up to something and left more to your imagination. Hell, the music alone is sometimes creepier than what is actually happening onscreen. It's why I prefer the Producers Cut as well as the original Halloween as well. Less is more.

  • @kimberlyterasaki4843
    @kimberlyterasaki4843 5 лет назад +228

    15:32 I'm guessing it makes a touch more sense in the movie itself, but I'm really confused as to why Michael finding out that the baby is his would make a difference; Laurie and Jaime being related to him didn't stop him from trying to kill them (or worse in Jaime's case) and he's supposed to be evil incarnate. Plus, why wouldn't he know it was his kid at that point if the cult had that whole gross ritual?

    • @IronBoy-hf2lp
      @IronBoy-hf2lp 5 лет назад +26

      The relation of father and child differs from that of brother and sister, I guess...

    • @demonteprice5870
      @demonteprice5870 4 года назад +56

      Well the implication with the 4-6 Michael is that he's not evil, he's being manipulated by evil forces that he can't understand and is desperately trying to free himself from them (and he was lead to believe killing his family would do that)

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 3 года назад +9

      @@demonteprice5870 But his son is also his family, so why wouldn't the same "Kill your whole family, Michael, it'll totally work I swear" promise apply then? The movie was just written by hacks, that's the problem.

    • @vampiregamingyt8754
      @vampiregamingyt8754 Год назад +1

      My guess was that Kara was trying to distract him for a second while she was waiting to be rescued

    • @MRF-bq7kq
      @MRF-bq7kq Год назад

      Jamie being raped by her uncle is too disturbing, especially since we and Micheal first saw her as a little kid, it's too dark and real for me and I guess for most people too

  • @aprilmichellerose3687
    @aprilmichellerose3687 5 лет назад +352

    I don’t understand why they cut Donald’s narrating in the beginning. Tommy is a main character in this film, but Dr. Loomis was a huge part of the franchise up until his death. I’m sorry, but it’s kind of hard for me to feel like the latter movies are as good without Loomis. I know they wouldn’t nor shouldn’t recast to keep him alive, but I loved Dr. Loomis and his dramatic scenes. He was awesome! Rip Donald 💔💯

    • @flatcapman
      @flatcapman 5 лет назад +8

      that was my major gripe with the Theatrical cut. Not enough Dr Loomis and it was just as much his story as Micheal's

    • @Annausagi2
      @Annausagi2 5 лет назад +5

      I'm remembering this from watching Phelous's review of this movie, and he said that apparently, the director (or, well.. the company) chose to show more Tommy and less Dr Loomis because...... they found him boring.
      Wtf???

    • @aprilmichellerose3687
      @aprilmichellerose3687 5 лет назад +9

      Annausagi2- Boring? Lmao-they’re crazy....I always found Dr. Loomis very entertaining and the obsession he had with stopping Michael from killing was the best! Donald was an amazing actor! 💯💯

    • @Annausagi2
      @Annausagi2 5 лет назад +3

      Absolutely! I've never been a 'Halloween' fan, but I've always enjoyed the scenes with Donald Pleasence in them, whenever they aired the movies on tv. "Boring", my ass.

    • @aprilmichellerose3687
      @aprilmichellerose3687 5 лет назад

      Lloyd Duff you’re exactly right 💯

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 5 лет назад +695

    This is a great new Series. Please continue.

    • @SlasherInSuits
      @SlasherInSuits 5 лет назад

      Bryce Mckenzie huh there’s only probably alien 3, rob zombies both Halloween’s.

    • @cjwrench07
      @cjwrench07 5 лет назад +3

      He might have to go to other genres to keep up the series. Imagine him doing this to BvS theatrical vs Ultimate Cuts.

    • @SlasherInSuits
      @SlasherInSuits 5 лет назад

      Doctor Cthulhu have to have been covered on the kill count

    • @eganator2285
      @eganator2285 5 лет назад

      AGREED

    • @lightsofff
      @lightsofff 3 года назад +1

      666th like 😳

  • @generalsleepy3859
    @generalsleepy3859 4 года назад +119

    How did I miss "Arthurian fist clench" the first time through this? I love the cut comparisons and am looking forward to more of them when you get the chance

  • @shrimp8431
    @shrimp8431 5 лет назад +71

    R.I.P
    Dr. Loomis

    • @gamleskalle1
      @gamleskalle1 3 года назад

      Donald Pleasance

    • @scpcow1597
      @scpcow1597 3 года назад

      @@gamleskalle1 the guy who will be known as Dr.Loomis

  • @tonypeppermint5329
    @tonypeppermint5329 5 лет назад +78

    Yeah, I'm gonna love this series. Who wouldn't love this?

    • @Cesarlmao
      @Cesarlmao 5 лет назад

      67 people apparently lol

  • @nejitentenlee21
    @nejitentenlee21 5 лет назад +78

    I love how happy you sound when you call out the shitty parts of these movies, not just Halloween but every movie

    • @03bgood
      @03bgood 5 лет назад +3

      H1&2 and H4-6 > H20-HR

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 лет назад

      @@03bgood Yes indeed! H1, H2, H4, H5, H6 P-Cut are way better than H20 and Resurrection.

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 лет назад +1

      @@03bgood They are also better than both Rob Zombie garbage films and also better than that crappy garbage Halloween 2018 movie!

  • @lateformyownbirth
    @lateformyownbirth 5 лет назад +96

    Considering the letter thorn was in use up until at least the invention of the printing press, that producer's cut title card reads 'Hthlloween 6'.

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 лет назад +9

      The Producer's Cut is the best one. The theatrical one was a total mess and made no sense!

    • @grantorino2325
      @grantorino2325 4 года назад +4

      After the invention of the printing press, it was often substituted with "y." e.g. "Ye olde shoppes."
      So, "Hylloween 6"?

    • @gr8cescale
      @gr8cescale 4 года назад +1

      @@grantorino2325 Hylloween 6.

    • @teeveestudios8594
      @teeveestudios8594 3 года назад

      The Producers Cut was the best, but I would rather the ending to the theatrical cut ending.

    • @MRF-bq7kq
      @MRF-bq7kq Год назад

      @@teeveestudios8594 and cut the parts where Jamie was raped by her uncle boogeyman

  • @asovietpotato4934
    @asovietpotato4934 5 лет назад +48

    You should totally say “let’s cut to the comparison” instead of “lets get to the kills” for this new series

  • @m3ndoza213
    @m3ndoza213 5 лет назад +102

    Dang the producers cut is way better except the part where Loomis gets the thorn

  • @LiTTleGaBi21
    @LiTTleGaBi21 5 лет назад +70

    "jailbreaking Michael like he was the lastest Iphone"
    lmao

  • @vinylcomets
    @vinylcomets 3 года назад +67

    If he’s going to continue this series, he has to compare Little Shop of Horrors. The two versions are drastically different endings.

    • @TheKevinKruger
      @TheKevinKruger 3 года назад +3

      That would be cool, except that’s the only change in the director’s cut, so there’s not much to talk about.

    • @cheatcode436
      @cheatcode436 3 года назад +3

      *Inhales* I'M JUST A MEAN GREEN M-

  • @rcdune7132
    @rcdune7132 4 года назад +16

    Always felt like michael finally became fully aware at the end of the PC. I like that version better because it actually gives us an ending.

  • @FrancescoTakesItEasy
    @FrancescoTakesItEasy 5 лет назад +118

    I was hoping for you to cover some aspects of the troubled production of Curse and also comment on the differences between the two versions and voila - here comes the Cut Comparison. It's like you've been reading my mind. I'm looking forward to more of this. The Alien series is a good place to start, part 3 is gonna be a shit ton of work, though

    • @samrtnr97
      @samrtnr97 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah I'm actually kinda hoping James does go back and do the Alien movies at some point for this series, especially since all four of the original movies have director's cuts (with Aliens and 3 being the most popular ones for obvious reasons). Same with any other film he's covered previously that has an unrated/extended version.

  • @shanecook-laliberte8154
    @shanecook-laliberte8154 5 лет назад +264

    This is fantastic work. The amount of thought and effort put into it shines through. Thank you James. You're a godsend to the horror community.

  • @cakelick7677
    @cakelick7677 5 лет назад +164

    6years from Halloween 5
    6 film
    6months into the year
    (A coincidence? I think not)

  • @harrisontheking5507
    @harrisontheking5507 5 лет назад +51

    So we gone act like Michael wasn't walking fast in this movie

  • @robertpreston2220
    @robertpreston2220 5 лет назад +101

    Tommy did not find the runes he brought them himself. he had them in the scene when he explained the curse to Kara another difference in the films you forgot too mention.

  • @wilco0087
    @wilco0087 5 лет назад +89

    I absolutely loved this! I'm so happy you're finally launching this new series. I've been keeping my eyes out for such a video since you mentioned wanting to compare the different versions of Alien 3.
    I love the humor and wit of your "Kill Counts" but I really like that you took a more "real talk" approach to this series. For lack of better phrasing, it feels a bit more "intimate" than the usual Kill Count. I don't mean this negatively but there's a clear performance aspect to the Kill Counts, but that's stripped away here and it's just you talking to us, much like with Chelsea and your podcasts.
    Excited for the next installment!

  • @flecktarn1000
    @flecktarn1000 5 лет назад +357

    I was sold on the producers cut version until they made the father of the baby Michael Myers. That was unnecessary.

    • @alisetalia6211
      @alisetalia6211 5 лет назад +17

      Michael... I don't think he is the father of the baby.

    • @FullArcher05
      @FullArcher05 4 года назад +58

      To be honest, I think that scene was fine since it wasn't explicit. I can't imagine seeing Michael-fucking-Myers rape someone.

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 4 года назад +7

      And the ending sucks

    • @LaraCroftEyes1
      @LaraCroftEyes1 4 года назад +6

      Michael is the father of Jamie baby.

    • @DNSV-ex8of
      @DNSV-ex8of 4 года назад +38

      Ya as much as the theatrical version makes no sense to have him as a father and rapist is completely stupid. Loomis getting the thorn tattoo at the end was dumb too. Without those to elements producers was better. To be honest though, they both sucked compared to other sequals in the franchise.

  • @jasonhurst8599
    @jasonhurst8599 2 года назад +23

    Would love to see a version with the producer's cut story line, but with the gorier, and more graphic kill scenes of the theatrical version inserted. Aka the BEST of both versions.

  • @koa022
    @koa022 5 лет назад +80

    can't wait for the Friday the 13th part 7 cut comparison

    • @MaryRoeRussel
      @MaryRoeRussel 5 лет назад +5

      koa022
      If the footage still exists

    • @dirty06maggot
      @dirty06maggot 5 лет назад

      I think the footage is gone :(

    • @benholland3740
      @benholland3740 5 лет назад +6

      It exists, i saw it in a documentary, but the quality is worse than My Bloody Valentine
      Hey, that gives me an idea

    • @koa022
      @koa022 5 лет назад +5

      Even if the quality suxx, we still can see how violent and gore the kills were before the cut

    • @koa022
      @koa022 5 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/x9zf6eOZmMo/видео.html

  • @AJ-lw9kp
    @AJ-lw9kp 5 лет назад +47

    Is it weird that I was way too excited for this?

  • @ChadBlue83
    @ChadBlue83 5 лет назад +36

    Fun fact, there is actually a small town in Kentucky named Smith's Grove, that happens to be in Warren County.

    • @kkraut
      @kkraut 3 года назад +2

      John Carpenter is from KY in the nearby town of Bowling Green. It was an intentional name choice just like Haddonfield.

  • @marsellusdurden182
    @marsellusdurden182 Год назад +7

    Thank you for doing this! As someone who adores the franchise and was in the midde of a marathon, this film confused the hell out of me 😅
    I had also seen the Producer's cut years ago so I thought I had a Mandala effect happening when I realized how bizzarely different the theatrical cut I saw recently was

  • @joshora8840
    @joshora8840 5 лет назад +61

    I really love how you keep thinking about new things to do on your channel and I think this in particular is a great idea.
    Keep up the good work James :D

  • @javi6594
    @javi6594 5 лет назад +28

    I ALREADY LOVE THIS SERIES YESSS

  • @laurenbravo3126
    @laurenbravo3126 2 года назад +8

    16:39 “Sounds stupid but the story checks out…”
    😂
    “standing there like an idiot” 😂😂
    “Michael’s impotence”
    😂😂😂

  • @Murderotica
    @Murderotica 5 лет назад +24

    I’ve recently found this channel, and I love it. You’re such a laid back and chill dude. I used to be terrified of horror movies but now I love them thanks to you. I’m glad that there’s someone out there like you James.

  • @tylermoreland9594
    @tylermoreland9594 5 лет назад +150

    James is the GOAT

  • @nameless0510
    @nameless0510 5 лет назад +188

    Both versions have their Strentghs and Weaknesses

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 5 лет назад +14

      Star Platinum And both kind of suck.

    • @Lonewolf_665
      @Lonewolf_665 5 лет назад +1

      @@megashark1013 nah

    • @TheCat_3
      @TheCat_3 5 лет назад +3

      @@Lonewolf_665 dude the name Halloween can't clear this of the shit show it was so many diffrent produces stupid storyline to go off of, it was doomed to fail

    • @blakemcilwain2501
      @blakemcilwain2501 5 лет назад +5

      Mostly just weaknesses

    • @ryanmudd3840
      @ryanmudd3840 5 лет назад

      Both rly? Producers seem a lot better

  • @Chynen1c
    @Chynen1c 4 года назад +9

    in Producer's cut, this is originally titled "Halloween 666: The Origin of Michael Myers" but they changed into "Halloween: The Curse Of Michael Myers", James!

  • @officialmichaelmyers
    @officialmichaelmyers 3 года назад +5

    Yah I try to forget that day

    • @meganstation2785
      @meganstation2785 3 года назад +1

      The cult forced you to do it Michael so don't feel bad :/

  • @shdwcobra63
    @shdwcobra63 5 лет назад +86

    I love dead meat because I’m too broke to watch a movie so your videos are like a movie in 20 minutes and review! Thank you James

  • @benzeller3635
    @benzeller3635 5 лет назад +68

    Theatrical:
    -Better color correction
    -Better kills
    -Faster paced
    -Better Loomis send off
    Producers:
    -Better use of music (Halloween theme used better)
    -Includes key information
    -More Loomis
    -More Wynn

    • @benzeller3635
      @benzeller3635 5 лет назад +5

      DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC I never said that I prefer one cut over the other, I merely stated some pros of each. This was to inform others and let them make their own decision, not to force my opinion on to anyone.

    • @benzeller3635
      @benzeller3635 5 лет назад +6

      DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC You can’t say you wanted to let people make their own decisions when instead of stating facts you said ‘The producers cut is WAY better’ that’s not letting others make an opinion, that’s just you forcing your opinion on others. I do agree that the producers cut is better, but you shouldn’t hate on someone because they think the theatrical is better.

    • @benzeller3635
      @benzeller3635 5 лет назад +7

      DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC Saying ‘The producers cut is WAY better’ is not ‘actually facts’ it’s still just your opinion

    • @reesemiller9337
      @reesemiller9337 5 лет назад +2

      Wow. WIll you leave the guy alone? Dick.

    • @111highgh
      @111highgh 5 лет назад

      @@reesemiller9337 You're a waste of space.

  • @Bobby_Hall
    @Bobby_Hall 3 года назад +99

    Here are my pros and cons for both versions of Halloween 6.
    P-Cut pros:
    1. Opening narration with Loomis
    2. More scenes with Loomis.
    3. Since Jamie survives Michael’s attack, that gives Loomis a reason to be at the hospital.
    4. I like the music that was composed for the cult scenes as well as some of the classic Carpenter music.
    5. More scenes with other characters that help develop them more.
    P-Cut cons:
    1. Michael impregnating Jamie.
    2. Wynn telling Loomis that he gave Michael the “gift of Thorn,” which makes Michael less mysterious since Wynn made him murder his sister and has been controlling him ever since.
    3. Michael being stopped by magic rocks. I don’t want there to be extremely obvious supernatural things in the Halloween films. Hint at it, but don’t confirm it.
    4. The entire last act has almost no intensity and feels more like a soap opera than a Halloween movie.
    5. When John Strode gets electrocuted you can see the stuntman’s face and he looks nothing like the actor.
    6. The film relies too heavily on the classic Carpenter music. It’s used way too much and doesn’t know when to fade out.
    7. Michael is basically a sidekick. He should be the main villain.
    8. Thorn tattoo appearing on Loomis’s wrist. This Thorn stuff was getting ridiculous. It’s fine to talk about it a bit but it’s focused on way too much and takes away from the suspense and mysterious nature of Michael Myers.
    9. The nighttime shot of Smith’s Grove is actually a recycled shot from Halloween 4, except in Halloween 4 it was a different building. Seems like a lazy and unprofessional thing to do.
    T-Cut pros:
    1. Michael is brutal. The last act of the film shows how relentless and uncontrollable he is.
    2. The Curse of Thorn seems more like a theory to explain why Michael is evil instead of being an indisputable fact as in the producer’s cut.
    3. I really like the song “And Fools Shine On” as well as a lot of the music composed for the theatrical cut.
    4. The death of John Strode is much more intense. Even if you don’t like the exploding head, all the shots leading up to it are much more effective than they are in the p-cut.
    5. I really like the scene of Jamie walking around in the barn and how she sees Michael lit up by a flash of lightning and then he seems to disappear. Very creepy because it gives Michael a ghost-like quality. In the p-cut she just sits on a bale of hay waiting to get stabbed.
    6. Instead of Wynn saying he gave Michael the Curse of Thorn as he does in the p-cut, in the t-cut he just says that Loomis was the first one to recognize that Michael was “evil. Pure, uncorrupted, ancient.” This keeps Michael’s evil more mysterious because it doesn’t directly tell us that Wynn made him evil.
    7. There’s nothing in the film that suggests Michael is the father of Jamie’s baby. I thought having him be the father was ridiculous and in the t-cut it’s a mystery who the father is (or maybe the baby was the result of a genetic experiment conducted by Wynn).
    T-Cut cons:
    1. Not enough Loomis.
    2. The ending isn’t explained. What is Wynn’s plan? What does he intend to do with Danny and the baby? There needed to be at least a minimum amount of explanation so that we can try to make some sense of it.
    3. Too much crazy “flash cut” editing.
    4. They overdid it with the jump scares and some other sound effects.
    5. I’m not a fan of how Jamie dies in such a brutal, over-the-top way.
    6. Since Jamie dies early on in the film there’s no reason why Loomis hangs out at the hospital all day. Why is he there? Does he just really like the cafeteria food?
    After comparing all the pros and cons of the two cuts I prefer the theatrical cut. My two main reasons are:
    1. It’s more intense
    2. The nature of Michael’s evil is a bit more mysterious.

    • @livefromthemotherland
      @livefromthemotherland 2 года назад +10

      Good breakdown. I agree. There should be a mystery around why Michael does what he does. Explaining it away with him being controlled by another entity makes him more of a side character than the full blown antagonist

    • @EntertainmentFan11
      @EntertainmentFan11 2 года назад +6

      I think one of the cult members impregnated Jamie on Wynn's orders, and Michael just sat and observed. And I honestly like the Rock version of the iconic score. Gives it a bit more variety. And maybe the effect of the curse of Thorn was too much for Loomis when the mark appeared on his wrist that it eventually killed him? I mean, it could have different effects on certain people. Wynn embraced it, but when he passed it on to Loomis, it might've been too powerful for the guy that it killed him. Just a theory, but I think it'd make sense.

    • @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917
      @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 2 года назад

      @@EntertainmentFan11 maybe Loomis killed himself afterward as he doesn’t want forced to be part of the Cult

    • @EntertainmentFan11
      @EntertainmentFan11 2 года назад +1

      @@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 That's also possible.

    • @HyperXero52
      @HyperXero52 Год назад +7

      The reasons why I prefer the Theatrical Cut are exactly the same as yours. Michael is not treated as the cult's pet dog, he still seems to be his own thing, uncontrollable. This added to the way gorier kills make him way more menacing and mysterious

  • @AlienWithABox
    @AlienWithABox 5 лет назад +11

    I'm so excited for this series! I love comparing different versions of movies.
    Idea that I'm sure others have said before: Saying "Let's get to the cuts!" before starting your analysis. It just seems like a natural thing to say and echoes your Kill Count line.

  • @RobertEdwinHouse9
    @RobertEdwinHouse9 5 лет назад +66

    Theatrical has more gore and looks nicer but the producers cut yust makes way more sense

  • @onyx7ven10en5
    @onyx7ven10en5 5 лет назад +143

    So is no one gonna talk about how nasty it was that Mike raped his niece to make his grand nephew?

    • @AsickJoke
      @AsickJoke 3 года назад +28

      I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN THE PRO CUT IF IT WASNT FOR THAT. ONE. SCENE.

    • @leahconners5054
      @leahconners5054 3 года назад +16

      @@AsickJoke woah, it actually shows that??? I thought the cult people just inseminated her???

    • @DrZuluGaming
      @DrZuluGaming 3 года назад +9

      @@leahconners5054 It's not exactly showed but yeah. Kara said that the baby was Michael's.

    • @roccog334
      @roccog334 3 года назад

      @Freddie Krueger 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @confusedhoover7352
      @confusedhoover7352 3 года назад +5

      Honestly before I heard about this I thought that Jamie got together with Billy from the last film or with another man when she was older and got pregnant but she gets kidnapped when she was due and the rest of the film continues. I guess the only reason why they added this is so the Weintens can show the horrible actions they do behind the scenes.

  • @enderkhunying2172
    @enderkhunying2172 5 лет назад +21

    "let's get to the cuts" sounds a little better. Can't wait to see more of this. Great job with the channel.

  • @Cooldoge67
    @Cooldoge67 5 лет назад +37

    IM IN THE FUTURE NOW!!!

  • @WillBrozInc
    @WillBrozInc 5 лет назад +30

    This is going to be an amazing series! Thank you so much for all your hard work James!

  • @aloidia2122
    @aloidia2122 5 лет назад +43

    It definetly would've been better if the two were combined to have the theatrical ending with Loomis dying alongside with the gorier deaths, but with the smoother timeline explaining parts the theatrical cut removed.

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 3 года назад +2

      Some sick fan of Halloween 6 with will probably make such a cut some day. Just gotta color grade the two to match, made easier since the producer's cut is practically raw footage without an intense grade to work against.

    • @HyperXero52
      @HyperXero52 2 года назад

      I wanna do this someday and call it the "definitive version". Then I upload it to RUclips

  • @ahshit2900
    @ahshit2900 5 лет назад +8

    10:36 wait wait wait... MICHEAL, YOU DID WHAT?! WHY?!?!

    • @meganstation2785
      @meganstation2785 3 года назад +2

      We can't even blame Michael as he is being controlled by dark forces. Both jaime AND Michael are victims

  • @empressink_
    @empressink_ 5 лет назад +152

    that barry kicks ass shirt is cool if you believe it's applies to barry burton ;)

    • @nerdyweeaboo3734
      @nerdyweeaboo3734 5 лет назад +5

      YES! The first Resident Evil game was Awesome!

    • @empressink_
      @empressink_ 5 лет назад +6

      @@nerdyweeaboo3734 hell yeah! barry is the chuck norris of the RE universe 👍

    • @Melphas
      @Melphas 5 лет назад +1

      The best waifu

    • @seantds619
      @seantds619 4 года назад

      I want the kill counts for that series

    • @geddoe316
      @geddoe316 4 года назад +1

      you were almost a jill sandwich!

  • @dreaveronica6944
    @dreaveronica6944 5 лет назад +67

    I love this new addition to the channel!

    • @vampirascoffin870
      @vampirascoffin870 5 лет назад

      wow you are bloody beautiful bless be💀🎃🕷🌷

    • @joeygrenova7635
      @joeygrenova7635 5 лет назад

      how is that your comment was posted '21 hours ago' the video was uploaded 30 mins ago !?

    • @dreaveronica6944
      @dreaveronica6944 5 лет назад +2

      @@joeygrenova7635 patreon

    • @Foxy-ty6hb
      @Foxy-ty6hb 5 лет назад

      Lucky patreon

    • @joeygrenova7635
      @joeygrenova7635 5 лет назад +2

      fu#* it i'm pledging .

  • @TocapoprainbowRose
    @TocapoprainbowRose 5 лет назад +50

    17:20 when your mom says we're all out of pizza rolls

  • @goalienjd
    @goalienjd 5 лет назад +5

    I didn't think I would find a new series that I could enjoy just as much as the "Kill Counts". I am so happy to be wrong! I loved this content, I can't wait for more!

  • @zackramirez4445
    @zackramirez4445 5 лет назад +26

    I can already tell this is going to a be great series! Keep up the great work James and Chelsea!

  • @cjholden6205
    @cjholden6205 5 лет назад +16

    I didn't expect it that soon for some reason, but I'm SO not complaing.
    A great idea and of course an equally great execution. Feel free to make more, you got my vote!
    (Too bad that the late 90s Mel Gibson joint PAYBACK isn't a horror movie, because I can't think of any other movie that has such drastically different cuts.)

  • @josephbowers8627
    @josephbowers8627 5 лет назад +6

    Definitely a series I'd look forward to seeing more installments of. Keep it up, James!

  • @gblatt8472
    @gblatt8472 5 лет назад +4

    This is the first time I've seen your channel, and I really liked the concept of this video. As a filmmaker, I know just how hard editing is and I'm fascinated by alternate cuts of movies. Please do more of these. :)

  • @Cinderkin
    @Cinderkin 5 лет назад +20

    This is a quality addition to the channel. Keep up the good work James. Any movies you've already covered have enough to make a cut comparison of?

  • @jsmalls9575
    @jsmalls9575 5 лет назад +23

    Awesome video and concept. Who can top your content? NO ONE, that's who. Thanks!

  • @clubsnatcher
    @clubsnatcher 4 года назад +17

    Honestly I thought the color looked better raw and unedited

    • @RJIS
      @RJIS 3 года назад +2

      Same

  • @johnmorton9493
    @johnmorton9493 5 лет назад +2

    This looks like it's going to be an absolutely great show for the channel James definitely keep making more episodes I'd love to see how different some of these films can be between different cuts

  • @lamehooligan
    @lamehooligan 5 лет назад +17

    YES KEEP DOING THESE! Love yah James 💖

  • @JYC1221
    @JYC1221 5 лет назад +25

    You should’ve said let’s cut to the comparison

    • @MaxT-SFX
      @MaxT-SFX 5 лет назад +3

      I thought the same thing.

  • @LuchaGangsta
    @LuchaGangsta 5 лет назад +6

    Enjoyed both cut comparisons. Really good stuff

  • @MrBeezyb88
    @MrBeezyb88 5 лет назад

    Great video man I didn't even know there was a producers cut until a few days ago and watching you go through makes me want to watch keep up the good work

  • @andrewzakrzewski2770
    @andrewzakrzewski2770 5 лет назад +10

    Please keep going, you really are big influence and I love that you guys are doing this. Always forward and that's inspirational

  • @StatusCaIamitous
    @StatusCaIamitous 5 лет назад +12

    Love the double uploads James keep up the good work

  • @mr.goodwill2256
    @mr.goodwill2256 5 лет назад +3

    i love these cut comparisons you make. bravo!

  • @rauleduardorebolledoaranda9358
    @rauleduardorebolledoaranda9358 5 лет назад +8

    As per usual, James, you always find new ways to bring something fresh and cool to the channel, we as viewers really appreciate the effort you put to each and everyone of this series. I loved the Cut Comparison, is a great addition to Dead Meat. Keep the good work, pal!

  • @ItsOnlyAbe
    @ItsOnlyAbe 5 лет назад +18

    Everytime you upload, I get excited.

  • @ZuZu-mm9su
    @ZuZu-mm9su 5 лет назад +14

    love all the new series keep it up

  • @Sir_Francis
    @Sir_Francis 7 месяцев назад

    As a LONG time Halloween Series Fan this comparison of the 2 versions of the film is the most comprehensive & thorough one I've seen! Well Done!

  • @DemonKingFinnBalor1916
    @DemonKingFinnBalor1916 4 года назад +10

    Is it just me or does the Smith's Grove sanitarium look exactly like the Ridgemont mental hospital that Micheal was getting transferred back to Smith's Grove from in the beginning of Halloween 4???

    • @DeadDog2000
      @DeadDog2000 2 года назад +2

      It is. I believe it is stock footage.

  • @katiewhelan6431
    @katiewhelan6431 5 лет назад +39

    16:48 "And he doesn't notice when the Killer does an Arthurian fist clench at his side"
    I cannot believe you just referenced that meme

    • @acegamerultragamer1532
      @acegamerultragamer1532 5 лет назад +5

      I can't believe I didn't notice this. Can we get a version of that scene with Micheal and Evil Spooky Cult Dude?

    • @trod146
      @trod146 5 лет назад +2

      The fact you think "Arthurian" means Arthur from the cartoon makes me real damn sad.. Read up on history..

    • @acegamerultragamer1532
      @acegamerultragamer1532 5 лет назад +1

      @@trod146 mmm...no. sorry. If it makes ya feel better I liked your comment.

  • @jeofficialjoker
    @jeofficialjoker 5 лет назад +7

    *_*Evil laughing*_*
    *_THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT SERIES_*

  • @goose300183
    @goose300183 5 лет назад

    Great idea for a series. I get the feeling that this is going to be a lot of work, this episode alone must have taken a long time. Thanks James, I appreciate your efforts.

  • @aidanselman2259
    @aidanselman2259 5 лет назад

    I really hope we see more of the cut comparison series. Really enjoyed it and also makes me consider which cut to actually watch.

  • @RyGoesPOP
    @RyGoesPOP 5 лет назад +21

    There’s another cut comparison that might get a comparison: Saw III (Original and Director’s Cut). There’s some scenes in the Director’s Cut such as a Catfight between Amanda and Lynn, Amanda getting nightmares about Adam, and Jeff playing the tape instead of John.

  • @derekconnors4128
    @derekconnors4128 5 лет назад +50

    Halloween 6 is a mess, but it was just trying to make sense of the elements introduced in 5, and was a labor of love by many involved. I'd still say I like Halloween 6 more than Halloween 5 and Resurrection.

    • @opfryingpan9770
      @opfryingpan9770 5 лет назад +3

      Nice dog.

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 5 лет назад +3

      6 is my 4th favourite film in the franchise.
      My list:
      1: Halloween 2
      2: Halloween 3
      3: Halloween 1
      4: Halloween 6
      5: Halloween 2018
      6: Halloween 2007
      7: Halloween 4
      8: Halloween H20
      9: Halloween 2 2009
      10: Halloween 5
      11: Halloween Resurrection
      I enjoy them all, even 5 and Resurrection, they have flaws but I'm someone who can easily recognise flaws, accept them and put them aside to enjoy the rest of a film. I can say that 5 is the most boring and Resurrection is the most offensively stupid but still like I said... Don't care too much, I like them, which one I like more can alternate from time to time, same for H4 and H20, sometimes I like one more, others I prefer the other.
      But my favourites being 2 and 3 are set in stone, fucking love those films.

    • @PRHILL9696
      @PRHILL9696 5 лет назад +3

      Halloween 6 Producers cut is the best one in the Halloween franchise. Too bad they did not do the sequel that was planned for it

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 лет назад +1

      If you only read the sequel that was planned for it you wouldn't be saying it's a mess.

    • @PRHILL9696
      @PRHILL9696 5 лет назад

      The planned sequel to Part 6 would be FAR better than the shit that has come out since

  • @Fearless665
    @Fearless665 2 года назад +1

    I really dig this channel because of the insight on movie making and the decisions that do or do not happen. They feel a bit nicer segmented (not that kill counts aren't) and have a DOPE ASS song playing over it B)
    you go guys, I can't get enough of this already, I hope to see more!

  • @moviemaniac7980
    @moviemaniac7980 5 лет назад +4

    I really like this Cut Comparison and think you should definitely do more of these.

  • @ChadDickey99
    @ChadDickey99 5 лет назад +8

    This is the coolest concept I’ve seen in a while. This concept is amazing for other films! Looking forward to more!

  • @crbuck3394
    @crbuck3394 5 лет назад +5

    Hey James!
    Loving the kill
    Counts and the new content too! Love seeing the differences between movies and the context you give them!

  • @ladyvenompunk6178
    @ladyvenompunk6178 5 лет назад +1

    I was really looking for a nice Horror channel and you've provided, James. I love the idea for this format, also. Keep it coming!

  • @MrBlueSkyof1607
    @MrBlueSkyof1607 3 года назад +3

    “What are you doing to that picture” you know what, James. Blame Harvey for that.

  • @brooksrandall7345
    @brooksrandall7345 5 лет назад +6

    11:25 god damnit james

  • @jamesmcguinness7008
    @jamesmcguinness7008 5 лет назад +19

    More dead Meat? OH HELL YEAH

  • @cazz8017
    @cazz8017 5 лет назад +12

    Producers Cut.. HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @cazz8017
      @cazz8017 5 лет назад

      i like both @@jmillyanimations7767

  • @yaracardona3495
    @yaracardona3495 5 лет назад +1

    I absolutely love this. Please keep making these. Can't wait to see what comes next

  • @heneedshelp5870
    @heneedshelp5870 5 лет назад +6

    I’m so excited for this series

  • @slyravenclaw6355
    @slyravenclaw6355 5 лет назад +20

    The rune of the thorn is shaped like the nose of the pumpkins nose in the og 🤯

  • @dylanstrub
    @dylanstrub 5 лет назад

    Love the cut comparison! Can't wait to see more! Keep up the amazing work.

  • @dingusdingusman
    @dingusdingusman 5 лет назад +2

    I tuned in for parts of the editing livestream, and these look much harder to edit than a kill count. The extra effort required is totally gonna pay off and bring some more variety to the channel, though, so keep up all the hard work you do! I'm a huge fan already :)