Best Tournament Arcade Stick of 2024?
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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I'm PhiDX, I play Tekken professionally for @ParagonFGC and ArcadeShock.
As PhiDX's giant stick I can confirm that carrying me around in tournaments was, in fact, problematic.
"I love this stick man"
-phidx 2024
No Diddy
Tell me brand name he currently use stick plz
I’ve used an AFS 18 for 3 years, and finally bought a snack box micro just this month, and I can’t express enough just how fucking nice it is to have something small and portable to bring to tourneys. I love the look and feel of the AFS, but it is so big that it doesn’t fit in most backpacks and it weighs like a tank.
10/10 commentary I can see the passion and I get it.
My stick is heavily customized on performance parts.
Sanwa JLF on Custom delrin capsule top, custom shorter steel shaft, custom alu actuator, semi circle gate.
All Custom measurements.
With pi pico board and ps passthrough on hori mini 4.
Detachable usb cable.
And all inside a cheap gamesir C2 casing. A sleeper build. All console buttons working.
I’m still out here with a stock MadCatz SF X Tekken stick. Still holds up man
The Noctis sword will be missed.
I have a Qanba Q8RAF and to fit the Knee Neo Lever in it, I had to removed the collar and replace it with a crown 307FJ collar which I also had to enlarge the collar hole enough so the lever would have enough clearance to ride the gate instead of the collar. Then I also had to remove 1 of the weight plates inside of the stick to make it fit including removing the access hole on the bottom of the case. Yeah it was pain.
Qanba makes some amazing sticks but I really wish they would design them with korean levers in mind or just a bit more clearance. I had no issues at all with the Knee Neo Premium on the Dragon and I even got a shuriken to work with the collar and still no clearance issues.
As someone who’s been using the Obs2 I can say this. Putting my Fujin v3 on it was no issue at all, but yes I had to take the bottom cap off. The only lever that doesn’t require you to take off the bottom cap is the Samducksa Nhp (Crown309mj) from IstMall or focusattack. It’s a very big, heavy and sturdy stick and I love how premium it feels. The cable management absolutely sucks. Customizing is so fun to do on it though. For anyone that usually just stays home, it’s a really good stick. But for the price being +$300, it doesn’t feel worth it for everything mostly feeling like plastic. Maybe I’m being biased from using a victrix, but that’s just my personal opinion. If you can find it for $200-$250, I’d say is worth it.
Actually for the fujin, you need the bandit mod, but the bottom cap doesn’t have to come off if you don’t push down on your lever, but it’s safer to remove the cap I’d say.
6:33 Holy I just noticed those are all arcade sticks in the back, yeesh. But hey let a man be passionate
Haha, I can kinda relate, I do something similar with the various keyboard I have. Admittedly arcade sticks look nicer in a set up like that lol
Collecting sticks is low-key a really cool hobby
Great video from such an insightful question! Such professionalism to do such a vid in a single take.
Can you make a video about your all-time favorites ?
Or something like a comparison about the actual s-tier sticks?
Instead of gluing a mouse pad, use non slip rubber sheet. They're cheap and work great.
I actually picked up the Qanba Titan for it's large spacing between it's lever and buttons. & despite it has bad reviews by most of the youtubers here, I love it. Same with PhiDX, I tried to fit the Knee lever in it & it did not fit. However the Taeyoung Fanta (Low Collar) fit perfectly. So I just settled for that lever.
Dear Phi, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin'
Kinda unrelated, but for those who have switched from JLever to a KLever - does anyone else find that the Korean lever shorter than JLFs somehow? Using the Knee Lever Neo (pill shaped) in a Hori Rap 4 Kai, I feel like my index and thumb are above the battop whereas with the JLF it didn't feel like those fingers cleared the top of the stick so easily. Could be a change in grip I guess, the battop has required quite a bit of adjustment so far, curious how others have adapted.
(also, why the heck do they include a shaft cover *and* dust cover if the shaft goes so deep into the stick that you can't use the dust cover without removing the shaft cover? Is that just the housing I'm using?)
It’d be more complicated to print, but have you thought of printing a replacement bottom panel that dips 2mm so you can fit the weight plate inside it? Could also possibly try just gluing some small weights inside the original panel, just don’t stick them near the lever
Is Arcade Shock planning to make a Titan panel for Korean high collar levers?
Thanks for the suggestion, I just placed an order for one as I forgot I had tons of amazon points from my card to use. I'm super casual to fighting games (back in my younger/teen days I used to play fighting games at local arcade tournaments, and really got into the original tekken & tekken 2). I pick up all these fighting games and they just didn't feel "right" without a stick.
So tempting. My only thing about this is that the titan doesn't have an artwork panel
Sometime could you review the Nacon Daija? I wonder how it would compare to the Titan for you. It looks like it would be deep enough for all K-levers.
Thank you so much! I've been meaning to switch to a stick for a while and I've been super on the fence about this so your video is just what i needed. I'm copping the titan, if it's good enough for my tekken sensei it's good enough for me!
it´s baffeling to me, how those arcade stick companies HAVE TO BE AWARE people like to mod and put different sticks in, yet they manage to just build the casing a few millimeters of to be modable .. Makes me think they have to do it on purpose no?
Yeah I think that they expect people to change parts so why bother?
Give them 'cheap to make' stuff but jack the prices up.
The more I think about it the worst it gets.
How come they don't offer easy to use cable management in the first place?
Why those start and select buttons have to be in the weirdest of places?
I mean it's like they're not even trying.
it fits almost every other stick on the market. the knee lever neo is just huge relative to most other japanese or korean sticks
feel like phi might like a custom brooks stick with a small form factor that still is able to replicate the extended viewlix
Litty 🔥 🔥 Vid , the outro super dope....good vibes 💯😤
have you considered removing the weight plate and instead adding those flat balancing wheel weights inside the case to accommodate the kneeo lever?
can a leverless (hitbox) be used in tournaments??
I dont participate in tournaments, but have used bunch of sticks, by far my fav is the razer panthera og, got custom sega 2p ext layout pannel with brook board and its basically perfect
I love the qanba drone because of the portability and cable compartment... Algorithm check
I don't know why he isn't mentioning Hori Alpha. That's a much better arcade stick for less price that solves many of Titan's issues from a premium Arcade Stick manufacturing company. If Titan is so damn near perfect then Alpha will blow his mind. Does he not know of Hori Alpha?
Can't fit my lever
Ive been looking into getting a new stick for a while, but ive been trying to look for one thats artwork friendly. Ive been using the ps4 venom stick for god knows how many years now, made my own artwork, and its so easy to apply, cause its essentially just paper beneath a layer of glass. Alot of the sticks being reccomended just dont seem to have that ease of customisability. Not a dealbreaker per say... but i REALLY want to make my own artwork
now that i fairly regularly catch the streams, its like the magic is gone. You just know he had to read that message in the intro like 3 times to get it right lmao
Put a removable cable on the obsidian 2
Good, one soldier still using lever, not going to the leverless army. We must remain strong.
So this is a knee neo but with a v1 bat top?
I still think the best sticks are either Hori Fighting Edge, or Qanba Obsidian (OG). They're my personal faves anyway. Hori Alpha is probably the best modern stick for $200.
Most modern sticks (such as the Obsidian 2, ironically) are way overpriced. $300? Even the Titan is overpriced. It's far more reasonable at $225 usd, but the extra 25 bucks doesn't get you anything the Alpha cant give you at $200.
Was thinking about getting a new stick just for Tekken and the Titan is on my radar. Good to know about the Knee lever as I was looking into either that or an Otto V2 mod. Much to consider! Thanks, PhiDX!
Just buy makestick pro easy to mod & fits every korean lever
Hori alpha is really good and easily moddable
could you provide a link to the knee lever neo? i dont wanna get scammed, also there seem to be multiple ones, the one you have looks like the standard korean stick with a exponential grow the higher the stick gets, there was a perfect cylinder one too
appreciate mentioning the button layout, a smaller one is most important for me as a home player primarily, weight and cable are meh.
I built my own wooden box, and used parts I got off amazon. Works great! but the height feels awful, and the spacing is way too wide for my hands, I've got like a 3-4in gap which worked great for dbfz where there's more buffering and more repeated inputs, but getting into tekken has made me realize I'm gonna get gated quick, especially my sore ass arms LMFAO
phidx! love u bro great content
Eyy! Stick buddies! I went from Obsidian to Titan too
Fantastic! could you share the STL files of the spacers? I'm looking to mimic your setup.
Wow what coincidnt, My fav creator use almost exact stick set up as me. I cuurently use ASIndo custom golden lever on Titan as well but I do not have access to 3d print anything so I just remove the weight and Use rubber washer under the stick so it can mount. so many work around but it worth it. The spread layout between lever and buttons are worth everything to go for.
Although i dont like it, starting the video with a king losing screen is definitely a choice
I wish there were more spaced out leverless options.
PhiDX turned his handcam into a crotch cam for a minute there. Showing off his other stick LOL
The 3d Print File you uploaded only has 4 pieces (Top Left Corner, Top Left Middle, Top Right Corner, Top Right Middle). Is this correct? It looks like there would be 4 other lower pieces that all have different sizes.
I noticed that too, only the top parts are in it, the bottom ones are missing! Would be great if anyone had them, I also need to mount the weightplate outside, Crown 309 NHM won't fully fit either...
@@QuentinSingvogel I messaged him on Twitter and he said he was going to fix it and I think forgot. Maybe if somebody else’s chirped he would be reminded 😀
@@ellamint360 I reached out to him over his Discord, he asked the maker about it and requested pics of the parts that are in the folder. I got impatient though and already cut out my weightplate to keep it on the insider of my Titan, but maybe you can be helped still :)
fixed now, sorry for the wait!
@@PhiDX Thank you boss!
Just got my obsidian 2, you undersell how frustrating the cable situation is. I am gonna install a passthrough.
LOL i thought i overemphasized it
Excellent video, thanks to your detailed description I just bought my Qanba Titan, could you recommend a Joistick model for Street Fighter 6.
Greetings.
what about etokki?
Wow what a natural and unscripted intro to the video. I can't believe that question came up completely randomly at that time in chat :) Great video Phi love ya
Man I was just in this for the chat beyond 6:00
Not a stick guy, just got a lever less. But love the video. Like seeing the customization options!
I swear that hitbox was always cheating
i miss hori fighting edge
Take notes Qanba, take notes!
Knee lever is always sick
Can you make a video on mods for your arcade stick/hitbox? What did do you look for in a good lever and buttons? That would be soooooo helpful thanks!!!!
I'm convinced a significant part of the popularity of leverless is just the weight
And portability
@@PhiDX Yeah, I guess weight is a subset of portability
Is that the knee lever?
Takeaway: Phi carried a giant stick
😳
INDONESIA MENTIONED! anyway, PhiDX engraving on new stick when?
Where can I get one of those storage racks for multiple sticks?
look up synth storage shelves
Speaking of Korean levers, how about a video on how you chose to use the lever you are currently using?
MayFlash F700 is a good stick
I love watching your content, I wish I could get coaching like this :(
Oh yeah fix, try using the Golden Lever Arcade stick. I heard they used by a lot of Tekken players
Wonder when we will get a custom phidx arcade stick
Do the lever types (Korean vs ball) have different advantages or is it merely preference?
Someone said Kneeo and Titan are not compatible so I want to make sure. Is it compatible if I just remove the hatch and metal plate? Is 3D printing not neccessary but optional?
Correct. Removing weight plate is enough
How do I get the qanba obsidian 2 Vewlix ext panel? only able to find the panel for the first gen obsidian....
No Victrix review, I guess the weight and size were the cons. I love mine, Knee lever mounted on it as well. It feels better than my hitbox, no matter what people say. ❤
Knee neo?
how do i enable the touchpad on PC? it was mentioned at 7:16
edit: got the touchpad to work by enabling steam big picture mode and setting the titan to ps5 mode, instead of PC mode.
there was no audio, since the computer began to use the titan as an audio device. i disabled the audio device coming from there.
In Tekken: options --> button mapping
@@PhiDX thanks! i initially had problems getting the game to recognize that the controller has a touchpad.
Hello, Can you suggest me a right handed arcade stick to buy thx
korean levers have been sold out for months. Sanwa is such a pain in tekken.
Hi loves ur videos
I have a question can the Sanjuks 7 fits in the titan ?
Can I get a korean lever with a ball top, octagonal gate and a quick release?
So the knee neo fits in the titan perfectly fine w/o the weight plate? Would say the titan is too light w/o it?
Personal preference. I think it needs the plate though
@@PhiDX Couldn't you find alternative weights to glue inside the chassis?
My hori rap4 Kai with mods is the best arcade stick of 2024 and each year before. Kneel!
Did you ever think about modding in a usb-c port into your obsidians ? I did that with my panthera, because the standard screw port sucks.
The original panthera?
@@Jr3500cyup.
Can, uhhh... Can we get them Titan 3D print files?
I have a razer panthera. It’s 8 way gate and I feel like it’s super sensitive and idk how to fix it. Also I don’t like the sphere knob where can I get the knob that you have?
4 way gate and get a 2 lb spring
Normal people, buy expensive ass sticks and uses them as it is.
Pros, buy expensive ass sticks, dissemble them, put it all the best parts in the best layout there is for them.
Meanwhile me, still using a self build stick many years ago using the cheapest stick i can find as a base layout and repaint,drill, install/replace parts buying them from online stores. 😂😂
Hey Phidx, how about the Hori Alpha? Is Hori sticks not as good as Qanba sticks?
In case you havent decided yet... Dont get the Alpha. You have to do way more to get Levers to fit in it than Phi does here for the Titan. I've literally dremel sanded divets into the inside of the baseplate to get my Knee Lever to fit.
Dont get the Alpha.
newer to stick stuff, ended up hating leverless as i think i have tendinitis in my fingers lol.
That being said, is there a ps5 stick with a good lever for tekken? I heard most of them are loose and have an octogate, i want a stiff one thats good for tekken
You can buy a cheap hori rap4 and add a custom pcb + a Korean lever in it. If you got the money and absolutely need official ps5 support there’s the hori alpha
@@user-sd6lb3tm9k awesome thanks dude
Same thing happened to me. Leverless injured my fingers's joints between the phalanges and a month later I started using a sanwa stick. Now my fingers don't hurts except my left wrist gets a bit fucked but for now I can play about 1 hour a day.
Do you still have your Hitbox Crossup? Do you ever use it?
Anybody know when TWT starts ?😊
How do you map training mode reset to Stick Touchpad ... mentioned on the video but I can't figure it out ? 🤔
Options --> Button Mapping (not Controller Setup)
Got it Thx@@PhiDX
Why not just cutout the weight plate where the joystick hits?.
Are arcade stick's the only controllers allowed at offline Tekken events? I started with Tekken 7 in late 201 and want to start going to offline events with T8, but I can't imagine using anything else other than the Xbox controller D-Pad I've grown accustomed to.
An Xbox controller is totally legal for tournaments.
A lot of tournaments are run on ps5. So you can bring all sorts of controllers, including Xbox dpads but you, yourself have to make them work on ps5; use a xbox to ps5 converter, mod them or whatever.
You can use literally anything as long as it works and doesn't have illegal macros.
I use a hori rap 4 kai and it feels great. It's a bit older though
My favorite as well I have 2 and just found another one sealed in box so I had to buy it. Wish they still made a stick like that, Hori Alpha is OK but doesn't compare on my opinion
@@theperfectpour I was lucky enough to find a mint one at the local resale store. It's the white variant too 👌🏿
Me still watching this while using a ps5 controller 😎
I get it.
Mannnnn I just wanna know what the best option would be for at home use lol, I’m no champion ok what’s the best stick for the red/orange rank scrub that never leaves the downstairs gaming setup 😂😂🤣
omg that’s too much work for a scrub like me why can’t they make a legit tekken 8 korean style stick 😞
What button are you using there? Qanba gravity ks?
Yep!
qanba sticks are tri dash cant mod easily with a brooks convertor.
Using a arcade stick is literally impossible
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