Reloading 12 Gauge Brass Hulls with Black Powder
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- I’m using Magtech hulls here, but Rocky Mountain Cartridge, and Track of the Wolf also currently make these in multiple gauges. You can also find antique ones that also will work.
If you’re looking for more load data check out Ballistic Products. They have a manual just for brass hulls. Track of the Wolf also has a 10 gauge pamphlet (as well as many of the tools you might need). As always, have your guns checked out by a competent smith before use. Enjoy!
Here in Brazil, some people have the tradition of using candle paraffin as a cartridge sealant, it is very cheap and works as well as the sealant you used.
Many people here still use it as well! I’ve only tried it a couple of times though
There's a video idea for you hehe
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That looks really simple! Great work.
This seems like it would be very therapeutic doing this for a while, great vid!
I enjoy doing it! It takes forever to load 50 shells but I’m not worried about efficiency. It really is therapeutic
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Very educational, thanks.
Instructions unclear, I ended up loading a 600 mm artillery charge
Yeah while following the tutorial I thought he said 220mm casing so now I have a 220mm shot with 20,000 copper balls siting in my basement ready to be donated to the British military don’t ask how I got the things to make it
I was lucky. There used to be a guy who turned 12ga brass shells from solid brass rods. I bought two boxes. The walls are a little thicker but they will last forever. I load them using a wooden antique reloading set.
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Very nice sir
So cool
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When I use my primer like this I put a piece of cardboard over the primer and push it in that way it gets fully seated and doesn’t get dented. Can use an over shot card for this.
Great job however I wouldn’t prime the hull pointing at powder, especially that amount. I really like your video
That’s a great point! I hadn’t thought about that when I shot the video. Fortunately, I usually put all my primers in first before even having the rest of my loading equipment out.
I was about to say the same thing
Thank you very much Sir,
a few questions how long those hulls would last / how long have you had these ones?
Wouldn't giving them an occasional polishing to clean off the scoring make them last a little longer?
Some are about 15ish years old and some are only a couple years. They should last a long time. They might last longer if I polished off the scoring. A little vinegar will take most of it right off. I just shoot them so quickly afterwards, I don’t worry about it. I deprime them, wash them, and put them in a little vinegar/water mix (if I want them super shiny), let them air dry (or wipe them completely dry) and then put them in my tumbler.
If I skip the vinegar and the wiping, some of the scoring will remain. I haven’t had any issues yet.
Thanks for the walk through. I'm planning on fire forming 303 British into 410. So this load process will be very helpful once I start actually making my own brass shell loads.
I fireform for my 43 Spanish with 348 win cases. Good luck!
@@twiststeelandsmoke any advice on fire forming. Aside from annealing the case first. This will be my first attempt.
@@Riven1974 I don’t really have much to add to the videos and articles on it already. Since you’re going to a shotshell, trimming to length won’t be an issue. It’s fun to do!
Great video, subscribed.
You can use a roll crimping tool on these brass hulls but it would need more wadding to fill the shell up to the top.
I have one of the RCBS die sets that includes the crimping tool, but I don’t use it. I’ve heard it shortens case life since you’re working the brass a lot more
2:16 Track of the Wolf Brass Shot Shells use large pistol primers
Thanks, I figured they all did I just don’t own any aside from their 10s
Thank you, im wanting to start loading but i just never knew how but where do you get your brass from ?
I’ve gotten them from Buffalo Arms, Midway USA and Gunbroker. Ballistic Products usually has some in stock too.
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Are there any alternatives you can use to that cement?
Elmer’s glue can work (some guys use normal or wood), melted wax, sodium silicate. You could probably experiment with other adhesives too that are similar to any of those. The biggest issue is you don’t want the overshot flying off in the second barrel after your first shot!
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Hi dear sir:could you tell me the weight of powder exactly by grains?dosent black powder damage the barrel?
This is a light 3 dram charge. A 3 dram charge is about 82 grains by volume. This is actually a black powder substitute, so it actually has less mass than real black powder per volume
I’m a bit concerned that you are putting primers in the shells with an open bowl of black powder in front of you. Primers can go off when you crimp them and this could be a very ugly situation. 3:33 3:38
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Are the BBs copper-plated steel? If so, I guess we need to be careful what gun we use as the older gun barrels may be too soft?
No, they’re bismuth
Super cool! Considering the consumables (black powder, shot, etc), what's the price of each fired round?
That’s a tough question. I haven’t bought pistol primers in years. The cases after a few reloads are immaterial. Going off current BP rates, it’s about 34 cents a shot for a 3 dram load. I load a lot of bismuth for ducks, so that’s about a buck an ounce. I buy so many wads, I have no idea what the breakdown would be either!
Many thanks for the answer!
I don't have experience with shotguns and reloading but it sounds like a good idea :-)
Interesting video! Thank you for sharing this lost tradition. Could you also use traditional plastic shotgun shells with the crimped ends with black powder? I’m not into reloading so I have no clue.
Yes! A lot of people use them for cowboy action shoots. I also use my once fired plastic hulls and will load them with black powder and roll crimp them. The plastic hulls have short life with black powder though. They get pinprick holes in the hulls quickly
@@twiststeelandsmoke very cool! I’d love to try that out someday for some black powder upland game hunting. I’m totally into that, but not with black powder. Thanks for the 411!
@@colt10mmsecurity68I’ve used both plastic and brass loaded with black powder for upland and waterfowl. They still work great! I shot doves, rabbits, squirrels, ducks, and a goose with them last season. My only pheasants were with smokeless though 😂
Question where do you purchase your brass halls from an primers
@@briannekeenatch8375 I get my primers wherever I can on sale. Brass hulls I mainly get from Track of the Wolf, auction sites or Buffalo Arms
Need a packet(box) of primer (209 type) please help
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Where do you get your copper plated bismuth shot?
Boss will sell it by the pound to handloaders. Little pricey but worth it
@@twiststeelandsmokeWhat does it cost per pound?
@@D_Boone I don’t remember offhandedly but I think it was in the neighborhood of $16/lb shipped
Last I saw Rocky Mountain was looking for new owners about a year ago. I bought a box of their 12 gauge brass designed for 209 primers. Their quality is far more superior to the Brazilian Magtec shells. I came across some warnings years ago about drilling out the Magtecs for 209 primers. The base of the Magtecs is too thin and you weaken the head of the shell. RMCW brass is turned from solid bar brass rod and they allow for a thicker head allowing the placement of a 209 primer in the shell. I prefer brass over plastic or paper hulls.
I prefer the brass as well. I just wish the issue of fireforming didn’t exist. It’s a pain I can only shoot them in some of my guns. I have the resizing die from RCBS but have never messed with it
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I have a question can i use shotgun reload press to use with brass case
I don't see why not. Bases are the same
Primers are different and you would not be able to use the resizing station or crimping station. You could drop powder and possibly the wad (depending on what you’re using). It doesn’t really make sense to use a press unless you’re using the RCBS cowboy dies made for these
Can i have those brass empty shells buying
I can’t find Large Pistol Primers (in stock) anywhere!
That’s the worst! That’s why some of mine are 209s. I can usually find one or the other
@@twiststeelandsmoke I only have the MagTech brass, all Large Pistol. I’ve seen where they can be modded to accept 209s , but not sure I want to go that route.
@@m1cajah yeah, removing metal is never the greatest option
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Something I've always wondered...what if you re-load a bullet (any kind) with flash powder....I've never seen anyone try this
Cause it wpuld explode
The finer grain of 4F will allow way too much powder to fill up whatever volume you are filling. The larger grains allow more “empty” space. If you used 4F, you would be creating a hazard
Are those bbs?
They’re #4 copper plated bismuth. They look like them though!
@@twiststeelandsmoke I was gonna say pretty badass either way
Please how can I get all the materials
Track of the Wolf, Buffalo Trading, Midway, or a good muzzleloading shop carry most, if not everything, you would need to
Where can I get 12 gauge of these
Magtech makes them the cheapest, but they are not easy to find right now. Other options (but they’re expensive) are Track of the Wolf and Rocky Mountain Cartridge. You can also try to buy vintage brass hulls at gun shows or on Gunbroker. The one issue you might have with second hand hulls is that they fireform to chambers. If they were used in a gun with a larger chamber than your 12 gauge, they won’t fit in your gun unless you have a resizing die. RCBS has a die set and there is another resizing die that is escaping my memory right now too
Interested in the smokeless in brass load data. What manual?
The manual is called “Reloading Brass Shotshells” by VanDenberg. He has a few Red Dot loads in there using plastic wads
Thanks a ton. @@twiststeelandsmoke
Where can i get brass shell sir
They’re a little difficult to find right now if you’re looking for 12s, but Midway, Track of the Wolf, Rocky Mountain Cartridge, Buffalo Arms, and auction sites are great places to start. Most other gauges are readily available right now though
I am looking for 16 bore sir
@@muansofficial2310 check Ballistic Products. They more than likely have them right now
Gonna do this exactly but with a 69 cal round ball lol
I have a friend who loads these with slugs for his 10 gauges. I’ve never dabbled with it though
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Fine advice, but given the current price of 12 Guage I have more profitable ways of using my time.
Very few companies make black powder shotgun shells. Most people who load these do so for cowboy action or to reduce pressures for older guns
True. Black powder blanks look good at the rodeo
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Can you please sell me two brass shotgun shells
Hey, I don't have acces to nitro cards. Are they needed or can I skip that step?
They act as a gas seal. If you skip it, your patterns may not be great. Harder cardboard can be used as well. I’ve glued three pieces of harder cardboard (the noncorrugated stuff) together and it’s worked well
@@twiststeelandsmoke oh ok, huge thanks
You shouldn’t prime your cases with black powder in a bowl right in front of you…. You’re An accident waiting to happen. :/
I don’t regularly do this. It was the first and only time. I usually prime all my cases at once with nothing else on the table.
Strange human,
Whats so strang about realoading ammo its cheaper then buying it
Bullet can kill...? It's a crime.
Having a gun doesn't mean ur gonna kill someone
How do u feel if u saved a cop from almost getting stabbed by a suspect with just using a gun
So can peanuts
Yeah that's kinda the idea
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