I just purchased the METABO HPT 10” , and let’s be honest here.. the fact that I can plug it in for all day usage , and when I’m off grid somewhere I can use my battery , it’s a clear winner, it’s in its own class…
Rob your neighbours must really love you with all the noise. This is an excellent review, thanks to everyone for all your hard work have a great night.
Even though you say that you’re not a professional testing company, you still do the best, most professional testing I’ve seen. Some sites, including a couple of fairly popular ones, are more like clowns than professionals, though they claim to be. I think we can all agree on at least one of these.
I’m writing this while paused on 0:35 into the review. Wanted to give my experience of the Metabo HPT(Hikoki/Formerly Hitachi) Multivolt 10” miter before I watched Robs. I love the saw, along with the entire line. Is it a kapex...absolutely NOT. Is it a great Jobsite ripper..ABSOLUTELY! This thing is amazing, especially considering all the capabilities(cord/cordless, decent “enough” laser, exceptional ruggedness built in to the entire saw). This thing has literally rolled of the back of a table down a flight of outdoor concrete stairs and walked away with only scratches. Power for days..battery or cord. If you look you can pick this saw up for a hell of a price. If you’re looking for versatility and a good saw, this is it!
I picked up the Metabo at lowes for $160. For that price it's really hard to beat. I haven't used it yet, so I hope that it works great for me. It is my first Metabo tool.
Love how detail and extensive your testings are. Love this channel despite me not looking for a cordless miter saw anytime soon. I still watch your videos.
Loved your detailed, considered and thorough review of these saws. Way ahead of any other reviews I've seen online in this area. Not only did you design excellent testing approaches, you also acknowledged any limitations. Overall I think you gave a very fair and insighful review. Thanks.
Recently purchased the Makita 10"cordless. Very happy with the performance of the saw. Agree with shadow line vs laser but I still like the Makita Saw. BTW your head to heads & your reviews in general are Intelligent, spot on with no BS/ drama. Thanks.
I talk crap to my children about watching you tube videos of kids opening toys or playing video games and here i am, going thru reviews spending money before i have it. Thanks Rob. I just purchased the 12 in delta Cruzer, because there was no cordless option at any brick and mortar store, besides 7 1/4s. And the sole 10in cordless option was a metabo floor model sold as is. We'll set how the delta goes.
Rob, I have had the Makita 10” for over a year now and still love it. First job I did was a hardwood floor where I had to set up in a narrow hallway. The forward rails and dust collection sold me on that one job, both are really great features.
Rob, You might say you guys are not a professional testing company, but you are! You work with these tools on a daily basis as carpenters/Builders, you know what it takes to use them. I was going to buy the Milwaukee since I have 18 of their tools, but to many complaints. I bought the 8-1/2" Makita for small cordless jobs. My main shop miter saw is my Festool Kapex. I enjoy your tool testing videos, because you guys are professionals . Keep them coming!
I've owned that makita for about 3 years now. I was super lucky in that I caught my local home depot clearancing it at the same time Makita was running a free two batteries. So I ended up getting the saw and 4 5 amp hour batteries for $350. To call it a steal at that price would be an understatement. I've had a few nitpicks in operating it over the years, but they are just that nitpicks. The fence system isn't the best design as certain cuts you straight have to remove it. I also have the same perspective on the laser as you guys. It is fine for quickly sighting something that I just need in the ball park, but absolutely worthless for precision. Beyond those nitpicks, I've found nothing it couldn't do. I originally bought it being skeptical that it would become my full time saw and replace my old dewalt 12". Mind you that saw is 20ish years old and is just a work horse. I haven't touched it a single time since buying the makita. I just simply haven't found anything it couldn't handle. Three years of use and that is really the only complaints I can muster about it. I put mine on the Harbor freight hercules rolling miter saw stand. I just found makita's miter stands to be really just poorly designed for the price they are asking.
My first makita 10" cordless got stolen after about a couple months of use,and I replaced it with the same model ,but at the time home depot only had a floor model in stock. After about a year the switch /sensor was replaced and was under warranty. To be fair to makita,it could have already had a defect. I use it alot for small segmented /pattern work and do a lot of repetitive cuts,and it has been almost a year since being repaired and I've had no problems since. I've also had the kapex ,but would reluctant to buy another because of customer service, but I think the makita 10" is the closest thing to it and has a larger more accurate bed, more powerful motor. I wish they could make it with the same bevel control as the kapex, but for the price you can't beat it! Thanks Rob, for this review!
It’s so interesting to read everyone having accuracy problems with the Milwaukee 10”. I use mine for everything but I’ve really loved it for trim because it has a large capacity on the upright. Maybe I’m just use to it and not pulling left / right while cutting? Also the weight is a blessing. Being able to open a door while holding the saw with one hand is amazing.
I have issues with my milwaukee 10" mitre saw no matter how I tried it doesn't cut straight and noticed the rails are deflecting alot which transfers to the head of the saw , wasted money for me
99 percent of my trim work and other work is done with a 7.5 inch slider , very rarely do I use my dewalt flexvolt 12 only when building decks or framing etc ..I love my Koblat cordless 7.5 inch slider ! It's an amazing saw and lasts all day long on a 6amp hour batt! No issues at all , the kobalt is a great saw !
I purchased the Milwaukee 7 1/4" and as a finishing carpenter l like how I can lug the saw around from room to room and gives me the accuracy in cut that I desire.
I find the dewalt version thats the same size really handy for dragging up into awkward roof spaces, say as you're building a bay window extension, just keeps you up in the workspace instead of running up and down ladders, or trusting someone else on the grounds cut accuracy on the bigger mitre saw. Once we've built ourselves a spot to sit 2 of us plus the saw can get up into that space, and manipulate the wood easily enough to build out and finish the rest For anything else? Its junk.... eats batteries, locks up on wet wood, and our old one damm near killed our boss when he tried to mitre cut copper pipe (don't ask....) and the thing damm well exploded, literally picking bits of the safety guard and copper pipe out of the wall 15+ft away. Turns out its only rated for straight cuts on copper pipe, even with the fancy blade, its just not powerful enough to mitre soft metals safely 👀
@@mor4y yikes that was scary, similar thing happened to me with cutting aluminum wrecked the blade and the piece I was cutting so bought the proper blade and no problem since I can work all day on one charge.
Awesome review as always!!! When it comes to miter saws Makita can't be beat. I agree it needs a shadow line instead of laser. For the past several years this saw has been offered at $249 with 4 batteries...incredible deal! Thanks again
@@treystills That’ll be time to outfit my shop on Black Friday sales. Want this Makita mitre saw, Makita cordless track saw, TSO TPG track accessory kit, Parf sticks, oscillating multitool, a couple of routers, router table, dust collection, and maybe a table saw.
@A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz. Thanks Rob and Team for another great Head-2-Head Test on these three 10 inch cordless sliding miter saws. Lots of data and lots of information. Will make my next buy easier. Hope you , your team, and your families stay safe and well.
Milwaukee for job site, makita for shop. Makita is the best but I don’t want to lug it around. And, I want to shadow light. Makita’s new 40 volt has the shadow line. Hope to see it reviewed soon!
All those guys making sawdust in the driveway with imperfect dust collection and some not wearing masks. I’d rather not inhale all that wood/glue dust. Dust in the air is pretty visible.
I have the Makita. I love it except for two things. Dust collection clogs when not using a vacuum and the laser vs shadow-line. But wow is it precise! I was worried about battery but not an issue unless I am doing a lot dado type cuts in 6x6. Bought mine on sale with 4 batteries included. Never going back to a cord.
Great video Rob, I’ve had the Milwaukee, sold it and now use the Metabo HPT. Dust collection is a big deal for me as well as cost and I’m really happy with it. The Milwaukee was a nice machine but don’t miss it. I’d love to try the Makita but $$
@@steveb611 We love our corded 12" sliding compound mitre we have had for 8yrs and have 3 of the 10" 36V Sliding compound mitres, two on jobsite and one in shop Great saws for us!
I totally agree. There shouldn't corded or cordless, just one tool. I like the idea of the Hikoki power transformer for their 36v tools. This should be how all larger tools are supplied, as you say with the option of using batteries if you want.
I got a phenomenal deal on the Makita. $400 in the box with complimentary set of Irwin clamps. Wish it had an aftermarket power cord as it’s been mentioned
This saw was one of the reasons I have been switching many if my cordless contractor grade tools over to Metabo HPT over my Milwaukee and Makita tools The AC adapter, lifetime warranty, price, function and power are all strengths of the Metabo HPT cordless tools-especially the 36V However some.of the 18V tools are good as well The 10" fill size table saw, SDS Max rotary drill, 1/2" full size plunge router, hammer drill, shop vacuum, portable band saw and 1/2 and 3/4 impact wrenches all are tools that have replaced the red and blue in my shop and truck The AC adapter guarantees longer running time and longer longevity for the tool
@@kizzjd9578 it's not overheating.the fan runs much of the time it's running We have 3 adapters and have run em hard on SDS Max rotary hammers, table saws, grinders, porta bands, Recip saws and others with no issues Just saved battery life
@@baseballdude8491 well maybe my adapter is fkd then because the fan runs constantly and if you push it too hard it wont run the tool for about 10mins.
I have the Makita saw, I love it! I bet all 3 mitre saws are good but the Makita has a beautiful design. I do not like the Milwaukee design at all, seems to be too long with that slide rails at the back. I'm waiting for the Makita dls610 review, currently it's available only in Japan hopefully it will be available in Europe and USA as well. 👍
Thanks so much for this review. I’m currently looking for a 10-inch saw. I was thinking of Makita because of its features and most importantly its compact size. Your review is making my decision harder after I learned more about the Milwaukee saw. I love everything about it expect the fact it takes more space in the shop.
I recently purchased the new Makita 40v 12" mitre saw and guess what they listened and replaced the laser with the shadow light , bought it kited with fast charger and 2 40v 4ah batteries, the saw is amazing runs for almost a day or with heavy use for about 5 hours so second battery is a necessity unles you charge it during the lunch time and to solve the weight issue got bosch gravity rise mitre saw stand and its awesome, thanks for your videos
Great video, Thank You! I love my cordless Makita, but the miter scale detent plate is soft aluminum and the detent’s will start to get bigger over time and the cuts aren’t accurate. I just changed my plate after 2 years of average use. 👍🏻👍🏻
akaredcrossbow @stenewoodwork on instagram has made a stainless steel detent plate for the saw it works just like the manufacturers but it doesn’t break down like the aluminum one. I’ve had mine for about a year now.
@@gosselinkfinecarpentry9786 I did check that out before I purchased the new factory one, but the price of the steel plate was to much compared to $18 for the factory plate. I will definitely buy the steel plate the next time I have to replace it. 👍🏻👍🏻
Shadowline is the feature that needs to be introduced to Makita saws ASAP. The best solution would be shadowline retrofitted as a spare part, so we could swap laser with it.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I’m hoping it is, I haven’t seen the new saw in person yet to look at. I asked the makita Australia accessories guy and he didn’t answer me.
@@kizzjd9578 Here in Poland I have a very good contact with one of Makita's technical advisers. As for now, because XGT miter saw is fairly new, there are no service part available for end-users, only authorised services have them. But I've been promised that he'll check if XGT 12 inch shadowline is interchangeable with LXT 12 inch laser. Because I'm deep into LXT, in foreseeable futer I'm not planning to change to XGT. Thus I wasn't even looking at any XGT tools.
I have the Makita.... I just broke it down, cleaned out the bearings and the slide plate (the nylon ring that has lithium grease on it from factory). The slide page was heavily coated in a greasy wood pulp and quite a bit of aluminum dust from a deck we built that has aluminim embedded in the hand rails. The combination of aluminum dust had made the rotation of the base and turn base very difficult and I’d hear a metallic grinding sound. Anyway once I got it apart and cleaned, I realize the aluminum ridge of the turn base was wearing down on the nylon slide plate and in tie the nylon slide plate had actually become uneven. So I ordered a replacement slide plate, installed using new Greece etc. I then checked for square. I found the fence was off quite a lot, and had to use the maximum adjustment allowance designed into the unit. Everything else is pretty close. On a 45 miter... vs 90, I can’t seem to quite true up the cut the vertical cut, I’m off .7 hundredths of an inch when all the way to the right. If I could work with Makita to make some changes, this is what I’d request. (1) get rid of laser and go with LED shadow line. I have a Milwaukee saw with the shadow line and although the Milwaukee is used only for framing cuts.... it’s a pretty pathetic saw for trim Carpentey... a lot of slop in the slide and it cannot be tried up. Anyway the shadow line helps with low lighting situations and it can be seen in bright daylight as well. (2) machine the entire saw to be about 10lbs lighter. I believe the base and slide base are more robust than necessary and also believe the glide rails could be a little narrower in diameter with it compromising required strength. (3) seal all the bearings on the table so they can’t get clogged up with saw dust.
So true, I’ve had mine apart twice to clean and re grease the table. It’s the worst part about the saw aside from the weight, it’s so damn heavy! I’m eyeballing the 7-1/4” Metabo that’s still made in Japan. Maybe it’ll get me all warm and fuzzy again thinking about the 2 jap made c10fsh saws I used to have 😊
Favorite RUclips channel. Ive never watched a full episode of any tool review except AVE until i found your channel. The fact that not a single video you've put up about a tool comes without that tool being demonstrate as closely to real life situations. Ive never felt I was tricked unlike others that have name's implying I'll be watching all action with some talking when it's complete opposite. Tools in action my ass. Lol. Sorry had to say it.
I've run the HPT and Milwaukee pretty extensively. They're pretty comparable. The Hitachi has quite a bit more power and seems to hold rpm through cuts better but it seems like they just decided to cheap out in such odd places. The plastic detent stop is not that nice the miter lock has a threaded rod to adjust but it likes to work it's way loose, the head slides fairly rough on the rails, I ended up adjusting the saw as far as I could and I'm still about 1/2 a degree off and lastly there's quite a bit of flex in the rails. Overall though it really is a good saw it just takes a bit of work to get it set up and sort of "tuned up" The Milwaukee is a nice saw and seems a bit more like a finished product but the power just lacks and the rails coming from inside the saw can make it want to tip if you don't have it mounted to a stand. But overall for the work we do having something light weight and cordless while still having a decent cut capacity and good run time on battery is well worth the few issues. I seriously considered the Makita as I have a lot of their tools and think they make incredible tools, I just can't get past the extra weight on a saw that I just want to be easy to pull out and set up.
I had the exact same experience as you. I loved the power of the Metabo HPT 36v, but I cant get it to cut square. There is too much movement in the head when extended. I actually use the Milwaukee 10" now, It doesn't have as much power but it cuts more accurately which is more important to me. You just have to cut a little slower at times.
The Makita is running $150 off for the kit + 2 free 5 ah batteries. So you can get the saw, four 5amp batteries and a dual port rapid charger for $500 until the end of October. Easily the best saw I've ever used and more power than my previous corded 10" saw. My only complaints are that I prefer the shadow line to the laser, the fence is a bit awkward to adjust for bevel cuts, and I'd like an optional lock a 0°. The you can't tilt the saw to the right without unlocking, but it tilts to the left freely. While this is definitely convenient and fast when you're making a lot of varied cuts, it would be nice to have it locked in in both directions when I'm making repeated 90° cuts.
Red china makes shit carpentry tools. Late to the game and still lags behind in quality. They should stick with the techs. Leave the man glitter making to the real tool companies.
I have the Makita and the negatives for me 1.The removable part does not line up with the bottom causing your piece of wood to lean back 2. The weight. The older I get the more that matters 3. I don't like lasers either. I have a Dewalt and love the shadow of the blade. Positives 1. Forward slide rails allow for zero clearance behind it. That's important for a shop saw. 2. Easy bevel adjustments 3. Locks down easily 4. Everything just feels like quality If they fixed the fence and swapped the laser for a light then it would be the perfect saw
Great review guys! Having only Makita gear I’m leaning more to that brand, like Milwaukee stuff also, just not a fan of the laser or weight of the Makita. I’m used a much much lighter dewalt which is a great saw but it’s got a heap of wobble to it which puts a trench into my mitres. Definitely agree about the shadow line that was what sold the dewalt to me several years back.
I just bought the Milwaukee 10" for finish carpentry. Works pretty good. Trimmed out a house all day long and my hd12 battery was only 1/2 down. NOW for the problem I have. Please let me know if you have this issue too. When dropping the miter saw blade to a 45 degree angle. The blade protector binds on the bed when pulling the blade straight downwards, like it doesn't get out of the way fast enough, To help this i have to pull the blade all the way forward and push backwards to help the guard rotate upwards like its suppose to. Its a real pain in the ass when slicing at a 45 degree angle and the guard is stopping the blade from finishing the cut.
I am a trim guy from 80s 90s up to 2000. I was able to find a Makita LS 1011 10" miter saw. I had it restored and it became very accurate. That saw was stolen from me. Very upset over that happening. In trying to replace tools that were stolen...I found an almost exact copy. Turns out it's a Cummins 10" slider...tips to the right...same as the Makita LS 1011. The Cummins has absolutely no side play! This is due to two Allen set screws at the pivot (up and down). Great saw...I like it better than the Makita.
I have been seriously thinking of buying the Makita 12" corded model for the shop, but I just saw a video that showed how after only 4 months the detent plate has worn out from the locking pin because the plate is made from soft aluminum. The maker of the channel said Makita has no plans to fix it. He said he found a company that will make them out of stainless steel. Key in Makita miter saw in the RUclips search bar and look for Number one problem if you want to see the video. It's from December 2019.
I like my milwaukee 10 inch. It was on sale and cheaper then the corded saw I was looking at and I'm already on the milwaukee platform. It does it's job
I'm waiting to see what Makita does with the 40v Max line in the US. Once I see reviews of 40V Max vs 18v x 2 I'll make a decision.... on which Makita :)
Everybody's I have their own favorite but you'd least you're trying to show from your opinions what you think is the best you have to respect that you're not just saying old this is the best this the reason why this falls in this category keep up the great work Cheers With a beer
Thanks for the review. Your work is appreciated. There were a lot more miter saws shown in the video footage than made it to the talking part of the video. Did the other manufacturers pull out ??
Thank you for the response. After I asked the question I saw you had already clarified this to an earlier comment. Sorry about adding to that dog pile. Once again I truly appreciate what you are doing with the reviews.
I collect rock serpentine and black jade. I would love to install a diamond 12 inch blade to cut large rocks IN THE FIELD. The problem; electricity and water don't mix.
Rob outstanding head to head as usual no stone left unturned! But here’s my gripe! The milwaukee maybe the most accurate out of the box but there’s at least 5 vids on RUclips yours included from 4 years ago that mentions blade deflection due to the way the saw rails go under the saw base!! Have milwaukee rectified this or have you guys just changed your minds?
Hey Concord crew, love your videos! Thanks for all you do. Just curious though, why wasn't Dewalt included? Do they not make a battery powered 10 inch Mitre saw? Keep doing what your doing and would like to see a speed square show down. Curious how the Milwaukee speed square stacks up. Cheers
I have been thinking about getting a battery saw. Currently, I am invested in the Milwaukee battery platform. I don’t really see the need for one though. I have a Bosch 10” that I have had for 25 years that works great and just got a Metabo 8 1/2”. I still like my Bosch better.
Very useful info. Thanks a lot. I decide to buy Makita. Because of its nice design, sawdust extraction, and blue tooth trait. And more over, I have already seven 18 V battery from this dealer…
Has the crew ever crunched the numbers to determine best overall cordless brand? I’ve got about 20 different Makita 18/36V tools I put through hard field use 10+ years and no complaints yet.
@@zylent8251 They were both high quality till about 5 years ago when they were respectively made in Japan and Germany. Now, they're all made in China. They still make decent tools, but they're not exceptional or anything. German Metabo even lies by putting "made in Germany" on the box, while the actual tool says "made in China"
Great job as always! Very thorough and insightful testing as always. My only suggestion would be to test accuracy of the miter at 45° with 1 x 6 red oak. That will show deficiencies easily.
did you check for cut quality? some could have more blade wobble. and when adjusting the angle some have more slop than others in their bevel notches when it locks in.
@@garethheathcote4988 why do tool companies hate certain parts of the world 😂 it would make so much sense for them to sell that here because I have the 7-1/4 and it lacks a lot of features. But I’ll look into that thanks!
In August I bought the Metabo HPT 10" sliding miter saw, 15 amp so the corded model. The first one i received I felt an extreme amount of vibration and as if it also something similar to a rod knock. Very sloppy head when positiond all the way forward so the max cut capacity towards the user. Upon inspection right away visualaly the fasteners (machine,screws) on the blade side that were going into motor housing. Every single one in that guard/ BLADE side had a gap from back of head on screw and the washer and other side of washer to the surface the washer should of been tight against.
And this is after maybe 10 to 15 cuts through 1"x4" cedar. Brand new Diablo 50tooth BLADE. Then I noticed there was a lot of slop betweer then saws fixed mounting base and the rotating miter base. I could almkst the biggest feeler gauge on a standard set if I applied real world pressure again in the max foward cut position. The sliding rails bolts were loose enough causing the saw to never be able to stay aligned after I meticulously set it up. i tightened everything and set it up properly. After I called and had a new,one on its way to get me by. The new one was hardly any better. I returned and got the Hitachi 12" sliding saw older model with fine adjustemnt on miter and bevel. I VE HEARD THAT THE CORDLESS MODEL IS SO MUCH BETTER ITS LIKE USING A DIFFERENT SAW. I LIKE THE MAKITA AND MILWAUKEE BUT THERE VERY PROUD OF THERE BATTERIES AND TOOLS. METABO HAS THERE BIGSKYTOOL.COM SITE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GET PRO TOOLS AT PRICE CHEAPER THEN THE HOME OWNER / PROSUMER BRAND NEW PRICE. WERE YOU HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THE METABO SAW IN THIS TEST THAT YOU WOULD HAVD IT IN YOUR TRUCK OR TRAILER TO GET USED EVERY DAY TO EARN A LIVING OR WOULD YOU ONLY GO WITH ONE OF THE 2 THAY,SCORED HIGHER THEN IT.
I agree. You either go just 10" or 7 1/4" and 12" I've got the Makita 12" and Milwaukee 7 1/4" Both great but the downsides are makita a bit too heavy and Milwaukee loose zero too often.
@@allthegearuk Yup, I see it now. Only watched the full video then went straight to the full article. Either way just sharing my 2 cents of miter saws.
I have been using the Makita for a couple years and have had a few accuracy issues. The bevel adjustment is in the line of sight. The laser is often out of adjustment. The dust collection is cumbersome and over engineered. The aluminum detent wore out fast. I invested $150 in an aftermarket stainless steel detent. The saw is extremely heavy for a 10” saw. I’m looking at switching to the Milwaukee saw. I’m curious about how much head deflection there is?
I have two Makita 36v 10" saws. They are simply the best saws Ive ever used. Accuracy, and ability to dial in any cut is why I continue to use them.
I just purchased the METABO HPT 10” , and let’s be honest here.. the fact that I can plug it in for all day usage , and when I’m off grid somewhere I can use my battery , it’s a clear winner, it’s in its own class…
@@canadianIce1 good point
Rob your neighbours must really love you with all the noise. This is an excellent review, thanks to everyone for all your hard work have a great night.
The Makita is the winner for me. Tried all three, it was just so smooth and polished.
Even though you say that you’re not a professional testing company, you still do the best, most professional testing I’ve seen. Some sites, including a couple of fairly popular ones, are more like clowns than professionals, though they claim to be. I think we can all agree on at least one of these.
Your too kind, thanks man
I’m writing this while paused on 0:35 into the review. Wanted to give my experience of the Metabo HPT(Hikoki/Formerly Hitachi) Multivolt 10” miter before I watched Robs. I love the saw, along with the entire line. Is it a kapex...absolutely NOT. Is it a great Jobsite ripper..ABSOLUTELY! This thing is amazing, especially considering all the capabilities(cord/cordless, decent “enough” laser, exceptional ruggedness built in to the entire saw). This thing has literally rolled of the back of a table down a flight of outdoor concrete stairs and walked away with only scratches. Power for days..battery or cord. If you look you can pick this saw up for a hell of a price. If you’re looking for versatility and a good saw, this is it!
I picked up the Metabo at lowes for $160. For that price it's really hard to beat. I haven't used it yet, so I hope that it works great for me. It is my first Metabo tool.
Love how detail and extensive your testings are. Love this channel despite me not looking for a cordless miter saw anytime soon. I still watch your videos.
Thanks for watching!
I bought the Makita for my workshop at home, I like the way it links up with the dust extraction and just feels like a good quality tool
It is!
5:37: "This is a little bit nerding out." love it, ACC
Loved your detailed, considered and thorough review of these saws. Way ahead of any other reviews I've seen online in this area. Not only did you design excellent testing approaches, you also acknowledged any limitations. Overall I think you gave a very fair and insighful review. Thanks.
Recently purchased the Makita 10"cordless. Very happy with the performance of the saw. Agree with shadow line vs laser but I still like the Makita Saw. BTW your head to heads & your reviews in general are Intelligent, spot on with no BS/ drama. Thanks.
I talk crap to my children about watching you tube videos of kids opening toys or playing video games and here i am, going thru reviews spending money before i have it.
Thanks Rob. I just purchased the 12 in delta Cruzer, because there was no cordless option at any brick and mortar store, besides 7 1/4s. And the sole 10in cordless option was a metabo floor model sold as is. We'll set how the delta goes.
I've own both Makita and Milwaukee. Sold the Milwaukee.
Fuck I bought the milfucky 3 months ago it has been great except for trim it just doesn't seam to have the power/ speed for a clean cut
Makita one......looks shmick..!!!.
Same i hated the Milwaukee
do you do construction or shop? im just scared carrying the makita, for the weight
@@krizm shop, if you have to lug it around you'd probably go with dewalt
I read too many bad reviews for the Milwaukee 10" saw and went with the 12" instead and it has been great.
I agree the 12 inch milwaukee is a way better saw great choice
Yeah I agree the 10inch is trash love the 7 1/4
Has the armature gone yet??
@@thebrotherofthunder No, it still works flawlessly.
Rob, I have had the Makita 10” for over a year now and still love it. First job I did was a hardwood floor where I had to set up in a narrow hallway. The forward rails and dust collection sold me on that one job, both are really great features.
Rob, You might say you guys are not a professional testing company, but you are! You work with these tools on a daily basis as carpenters/Builders, you know what it takes to use them. I was going to buy the Milwaukee since I have 18 of their tools, but to many complaints. I bought the 8-1/2" Makita for small cordless jobs. My main shop miter saw is my Festool Kapex. I enjoy your tool testing videos, because you guys are professionals . Keep them coming!
I've owned that makita for about 3 years now. I was super lucky in that I caught my local home depot clearancing it at the same time Makita was running a free two batteries. So I ended up getting the saw and 4 5 amp hour batteries for $350. To call it a steal at that price would be an understatement.
I've had a few nitpicks in operating it over the years, but they are just that nitpicks. The fence system isn't the best design as certain cuts you straight have to remove it. I also have the same perspective on the laser as you guys. It is fine for quickly sighting something that I just need in the ball park, but absolutely worthless for precision. Beyond those nitpicks, I've found nothing it couldn't do. I originally bought it being skeptical that it would become my full time saw and replace my old dewalt 12". Mind you that saw is 20ish years old and is just a work horse. I haven't touched it a single time since buying the makita. I just simply haven't found anything it couldn't handle. Three years of use and that is really the only complaints I can muster about it.
I put mine on the Harbor freight hercules rolling miter saw stand. I just found makita's miter stands to be really just poorly designed for the price they are asking.
My first makita 10" cordless got stolen after about a couple months of use,and I replaced it with the same model ,but at the time home depot only had a floor model in stock. After about a year the switch /sensor was replaced and was under warranty. To be fair to makita,it could have already had a defect. I use it alot for small segmented /pattern work and do a lot of repetitive cuts,and it has been almost a year since being repaired and I've had no problems since.
I've also had the kapex ,but would reluctant to buy another because of customer service, but I think the makita 10" is the closest thing to it and has a larger more accurate bed, more powerful motor. I wish they could make it with the same bevel control as the kapex, but for the price you can't beat it! Thanks Rob, for this review!
It’s so interesting to read everyone having accuracy problems with the Milwaukee 10”. I use mine for everything but I’ve really loved it for trim because it has a large capacity on the upright. Maybe I’m just use to it and not pulling left / right while cutting? Also the weight is a blessing. Being able to open a door while holding the saw with one hand is amazing.
Same
I have issues with my milwaukee 10" mitre saw no matter how I tried it doesn't cut straight and noticed the rails are deflecting alot which transfers to the head of the saw , wasted money for me
These reviews are incredibly useful, Thanks TBB Crew!
99 percent of my trim work and other work is done with a 7.5 inch slider , very rarely do I use my dewalt flexvolt 12 only when building decks or framing etc ..I love my Koblat cordless 7.5 inch slider ! It's an amazing saw and lasts all day long on a 6amp hour batt! No issues at all , the kobalt is a great saw !
same, same for small stuff
I love my M18 10" miter saw and tablesaw on my remolding jobs. So light and easy to move around.
It was the best maneuverable in the group
Best details tool review on RUclips!!
Wow, thanks!
Metabo hpt is at 399.99 btw kitted, plus you get a rebate with it for an additional battery or the power cable. Got this saw and it works so well
nice!!
I have the 10” Milwaukee....great cordless saw
I have never exhausted the battery on any job.
Right on
Love your channel and comparison videos you make. I think that they are the best on RUclips!
Thanks!
Thanks
I purchased the Milwaukee 7 1/4" and as a finishing carpenter l like how I can lug the saw around from room to room and gives me the accuracy in cut that I desire.
me too
I find the dewalt version thats the same size really handy for dragging up into awkward roof spaces, say as you're building a bay window extension, just keeps you up in the workspace instead of running up and down ladders, or trusting someone else on the grounds cut accuracy on the bigger mitre saw. Once we've built ourselves a spot to sit 2 of us plus the saw can get up into that space, and manipulate the wood easily enough to build out and finish the rest
For anything else? Its junk.... eats batteries, locks up on wet wood, and our old one damm near killed our boss when he tried to mitre cut copper pipe (don't ask....) and the thing damm well exploded, literally picking bits of the safety guard and copper pipe out of the wall 15+ft away. Turns out its only rated for straight cuts on copper pipe, even with the fancy blade, its just not powerful enough to mitre soft metals safely 👀
@@mor4y yikes that was scary, similar thing happened to me with cutting aluminum wrecked the blade and the piece I was cutting so bought the proper blade and no problem since I can work all day on one charge.
Awesome review as always!!! When it comes to miter saws Makita can't be beat. I agree it needs a shadow line instead of laser. For the past several years this saw has been offered at $249 with 4 batteries...incredible deal! Thanks again
Thanks for watching!
Where can o buy it for 249$???
@@codyhagedorn7399 past 2-3 yrs they've had an annual sale. Currently not offered at that price. May see something around xmas
@@treystills That’ll be time to outfit my shop on Black Friday sales. Want this Makita mitre saw, Makita cordless track saw, TSO TPG track accessory kit, Parf sticks, oscillating multitool, a couple of routers, router table, dust collection, and maybe a table saw.
where do i get that deal?!?
@A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz. Thanks Rob and Team for another great Head-2-Head Test on these three 10 inch cordless sliding miter saws. Lots of data and lots of information. Will make my next buy easier.
Hope you , your team, and your families stay safe and well.
I've got the 10 inch Milwaukee, it's decent , the arms flex at 45 degree bevel so the cut isn't straight if you don't let the blade cut ,
Milwaukee for job site, makita for shop. Makita is the best but I don’t want to lug it around. And, I want to shadow light. Makita’s new 40 volt has the shadow line. Hope to see it reviewed soon!
Wow. Your neighbors must love you.
Like the shot of the crew member sprinkled with the man glitter!
BTW, Big-10 football on Saturday! Yay!
All those guys making sawdust in the driveway with imperfect dust collection and some not wearing masks. I’d rather not inhale all that wood/glue dust. Dust in the air is pretty visible.
Terrific video. Making your recommendation based on metrics and data is impeccable. Keep up the strong work !!!
I have the Makita. I love it except for two things. Dust collection clogs when not using a vacuum and the laser vs shadow-line. But wow is it precise! I was worried about battery but not an issue unless I am doing a lot dado type cuts in 6x6. Bought mine on sale with 4 batteries included. Never going back to a cord.
Thanks for sharing!
when was the sale?
Great video Rob, I’ve had the Milwaukee, sold it and now use the Metabo HPT. Dust collection is a big deal for me as well as cost and I’m really happy with it. The Milwaukee was a nice machine but don’t miss it. I’d love to try the Makita but $$
Do you recommend the metabo HPT miter saw the one that's in this review. I was thinking about getting one. I have their table saw. It works great
@@steveb611 We love our corded 12" sliding compound mitre we have had for 8yrs and have 3 of the 10" 36V Sliding compound mitres, two on jobsite and one in shop
Great saws for us!
I got both the corded and cordless version of the makita, beast of a saw
Makita all the way. Just wish they had a corded option with “batteries” for when you had this in your shop
I totally agree. There shouldn't corded or cordless, just one tool. I like the idea of the Hikoki power transformer for their 36v tools. This should be how all larger tools are supplied, as you say with the option of using batteries if you want.
I think makita has an X2 adapter now for mains power
@@alphaclean3364 really? Find a link please
@@alphaclean3364 I haven't seen one.
I got a phenomenal deal on the Makita. $400 in the box with complimentary set of Irwin clamps. Wish it had an aftermarket power cord as it’s been mentioned
This saw was one of the reasons I have been switching many if my cordless contractor grade tools over to Metabo HPT over my Milwaukee and Makita tools
The AC adapter, lifetime warranty, price, function and power are all strengths of the Metabo HPT cordless tools-especially the 36V
However some.of the 18V tools are good as well
The 10" fill size table saw, SDS Max rotary drill, 1/2" full size plunge router, hammer drill, shop vacuum, portable band saw and 1/2 and 3/4 impact wrenches all are tools that have replaced the red and blue in my shop and truck
The AC adapter guarantees longer running time and longer longevity for the tool
Not really. It looks overheats so easily and you gotta let it cool down for 10mins. Also doesn’t give you any extra power.
@@kizzjd9578 we have 3 10" Metabo HPT 36V
Mitre saws-none if them over heat-if you are having that problem then change your blade
@@baseballdude8491 new blade doesn’t do anything mate. It only overheats on the ac adapter. The table saw and the 10” mitre saw. Both does the same.
@@kizzjd9578 it's not overheating.the fan runs much of the time it's running
We have 3 adapters and have run em hard on SDS Max rotary hammers, table saws, grinders, porta bands, Recip saws and others with no issues
Just saved battery life
@@baseballdude8491 well maybe my adapter is fkd then because the fan runs constantly and if you push it too hard it wont run the tool for about 10mins.
I am a Milwaukee fan it's about the only tool I buy, love this video
Brand loyalty is a real thing! Thanks for commenting
I have the Makita saw, I love it! I bet all 3 mitre saws are good but the Makita has a beautiful design. I do not like the Milwaukee design at all, seems to be too long with that slide rails at the back.
I'm waiting for the Makita dls610 review, currently it's available only in Japan hopefully it will be available in Europe and USA as well. 👍
Totally agree
Thanks so much for this review. I’m currently looking for a 10-inch saw. I was thinking of Makita because of its features and most importantly its compact size. Your review is making my decision harder after I learned more about the Milwaukee saw. I love everything about it expect the fact it takes more space in the shop.
I recently purchased the new Makita 40v 12" mitre saw and guess what they listened and replaced the laser with the shadow light , bought it kited with fast charger and 2 40v 4ah batteries, the saw is amazing runs for almost a day or with heavy use for about 5 hours so second battery is a necessity unles you charge it during the lunch time and to solve the weight issue got bosch gravity rise mitre saw stand and its awesome, thanks for your videos
Great video, Thank You!
I love my cordless Makita, but the miter scale detent plate is soft aluminum and the detent’s will start to get bigger over time and the cuts aren’t accurate. I just changed my plate after 2 years of average use.
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akaredcrossbow @stenewoodwork on instagram has made a stainless steel detent plate for the saw it works just like the manufacturers but it doesn’t break down like the aluminum one. I’ve had mine for about a year now.
@@gosselinkfinecarpentry9786 I did check that out before I purchased the new factory one, but the price of the steel plate was to much compared to $18 for the factory plate. I will definitely buy the steel plate the next time I have to replace it.
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Just found a 10in Milwaukee 18v that looks like it was used once for $299. Very excited to add this to my tool set, and thanks for the review.
Thanks for taking the time to do these tests. As usual, you come across as clear, concise, and (most importantly) *unbiased*.
Thank you guys! Your rankings are incredibly useful.
glad you like it
Shadowline is the feature that needs to be introduced to Makita saws ASAP. The best solution would be shadowline retrofitted as a spare part, so we could swap laser with it.
Agreed
You can with the new xgt part
@@kizzjd9578 I haven't tried yet. I hope that part would be more or less interchangeable.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I’m hoping it is, I haven’t seen the new saw in person yet to look at. I asked the makita Australia accessories guy and he didn’t answer me.
@@kizzjd9578 Here in Poland I have a very good contact with one of Makita's technical advisers. As for now, because XGT miter saw is fairly new, there are no service part available for end-users, only authorised services have them. But I've been promised that he'll check if XGT 12 inch shadowline is interchangeable with LXT 12 inch laser.
Because I'm deep into LXT, in foreseeable futer I'm not planning to change to XGT. Thus I wasn't even looking at any XGT tools.
Thanks for your video. Cause am planning on making a purchase of a cordless miter saw I do finish carpentry.
Always the best review. No one compares. Thank for the hard work and fine production.
I have the Makita.... I just broke it down, cleaned out the bearings and the slide plate (the nylon ring that has lithium grease on it from factory). The slide page was heavily coated in a greasy wood pulp and quite a bit of aluminum dust from a deck we built that has aluminim embedded in the hand rails. The combination of aluminum dust had made the rotation of the base and turn base very difficult and I’d hear a metallic grinding sound.
Anyway once I got it apart and cleaned, I realize the aluminum ridge of the turn base was wearing down on the nylon slide plate and in tie the nylon slide plate had actually become uneven.
So I ordered a replacement slide plate, installed using new Greece etc.
I then checked for square. I found the fence was off quite a lot, and had to use the maximum adjustment allowance designed into the unit. Everything else is pretty close. On a 45 miter... vs 90, I can’t seem to quite true up the cut the vertical cut, I’m off .7 hundredths of an inch when all the way to the right.
If I could work with Makita to make some changes, this is what I’d request.
(1) get rid of laser and go with LED shadow line. I have a Milwaukee saw with the shadow line and although the Milwaukee is used only for framing cuts.... it’s a pretty pathetic saw for trim Carpentey... a lot of slop in the slide and it cannot be tried up. Anyway the shadow line helps with low lighting situations and it can be seen in bright daylight as well.
(2) machine the entire saw to be about 10lbs lighter. I believe the base and slide base are more robust than necessary and also believe the glide rails could be a little narrower in diameter with it compromising required strength.
(3) seal all the bearings on the table so they can’t get clogged up with saw dust.
So true, I’ve had mine apart twice to clean and re grease the table. It’s the worst part about the saw aside from the weight, it’s so damn heavy! I’m eyeballing the 7-1/4” Metabo that’s still made in Japan. Maybe it’ll get me all warm and fuzzy again thinking about the 2 jap made c10fsh saws I used to have 😊
Favorite RUclips channel. Ive never watched a full episode of any tool review except AVE until i found your channel. The fact that not a single video you've put up about a tool comes without that tool being demonstrate as closely to real life situations. Ive never felt I was tricked unlike others that have name's implying I'll be watching all action with some talking when it's complete opposite. Tools in action my ass. Lol. Sorry had to say it.
I've run the HPT and Milwaukee pretty extensively. They're pretty comparable. The Hitachi has quite a bit more power and seems to hold rpm through cuts better but it seems like they just decided to cheap out in such odd places. The plastic detent stop is not that nice the miter lock has a threaded rod to adjust but it likes to work it's way loose, the head slides fairly rough on the rails, I ended up adjusting the saw as far as I could and I'm still about 1/2 a degree off and lastly there's quite a bit of flex in the rails. Overall though it really is a good saw it just takes a bit of work to get it set up and sort of "tuned up" The Milwaukee is a nice saw and seems a bit more like a finished product but the power just lacks and the rails coming from inside the saw can make it want to tip if you don't have it mounted to a stand. But overall for the work we do having something light weight and cordless while still having a decent cut capacity and good run time on battery is well worth the few issues. I seriously considered the Makita as I have a lot of their tools and think they make incredible tools, I just can't get past the extra weight on a saw that I just want to be easy to pull out and set up.
I had the exact same experience as you. I loved the power of the Metabo HPT 36v, but I cant get it to cut square. There is too much movement in the head when extended. I actually use the Milwaukee 10" now, It doesn't have as much power but it cuts more accurately which is more important to me. You just have to cut a little slower at times.
since all my tools are Milwaukee, i will go with that one for the battery , great review.
The Makita is running $150 off for the kit + 2 free 5 ah batteries. So you can get the saw, four 5amp batteries and a dual port rapid charger for $500 until the end of October. Easily the best saw I've ever used and more power than my previous corded 10" saw.
My only complaints are that I prefer the shadow line to the laser, the fence is a bit awkward to adjust for bevel cuts, and I'd like an optional lock a 0°. The you can't tilt the saw to the right without unlocking, but it tilts to the left freely. While this is definitely convenient and fast when you're making a lot of varied cuts, it would be nice to have it locked in in both directions when I'm making repeated 90° cuts.
The corded version of the Makita is $739 these days. Insane price hikes have occurred the last few years. The LS1019L.
Just got my milwaukee 10 inch yet to use it.
I'm calling a win for Makita before even watching the video
Well done guys.
Lots of work to do the comparison and it’s appreciated!
I had dewalt, milwaukee, and makita. Sold the milwaukee, kept dewalt (12) and makita (10). Milwaukee had no business being there.
I'm sure you did🙄
Red china makes shit carpentry tools. Late to the game and still lags behind in quality. They should stick with the techs. Leave the man glitter making to the real tool companies.
I agree
Ken’s Festool Channel all those brands are made in China dude.
makita needs to upgrade that miter scale plate to stainless steel
I have the Makita and the negatives for me
1.The removable part does not line up with the bottom causing your piece of wood to lean back
2. The weight. The older I get the more that matters
3. I don't like lasers either. I have a Dewalt and love the shadow of the blade.
Positives
1. Forward slide rails allow for zero clearance behind it. That's important for a shop saw.
2. Easy bevel adjustments
3. Locks down easily
4. Everything just feels like quality
If they fixed the fence and swapped the laser for a light then it would be the perfect saw
Great review guys! Having only Makita gear I’m leaning more to that brand, like Milwaukee stuff also, just not a fan of the laser or weight of the Makita. I’m used a much much lighter dewalt which is a great saw but it’s got a heap of wobble to it which puts a trench into my mitres. Definitely agree about the shadow line that was what sold the dewalt to me several years back.
H2H is really great, enjoyable show.I downloaded this vieeo and watched on my tv for better experience.Hope you dont mind Rob.😁
Have you a chance to try the 12 inch makita 40 volt? It has the shadow line.
I just bought the Milwaukee 10" for finish carpentry. Works pretty good. Trimmed out a house all day long and my hd12 battery was only 1/2 down. NOW for the problem I have. Please let me know if you have this issue too. When dropping the miter saw blade to a 45 degree angle. The blade protector binds on the bed when pulling the blade straight downwards, like it doesn't get out of the way fast enough, To help this i have to pull the blade all the way forward and push backwards to help the guard rotate upwards like its suppose to. Its a real pain in the ass when slicing at a 45 degree angle and the guard is stopping the blade from finishing the cut.
I am a trim guy from 80s 90s up to 2000. I was able to find a Makita LS 1011 10" miter saw. I had it restored and it became very accurate. That saw was stolen from me. Very upset over that happening. In trying to replace tools that were stolen...I found an almost exact copy. Turns out it's a Cummins 10" slider...tips to the right...same as the Makita LS 1011. The Cummins has absolutely no side play! This is due to two Allen set screws at the pivot (up and down). Great saw...I like it better than the Makita.
I have been seriously thinking of buying the Makita 12" corded model for the shop, but I just saw a video that showed how after only 4 months the detent plate has worn out from the locking pin because the plate is made from soft aluminum. The maker of the channel said Makita has no plans to fix it. He said he found a company that will make them out of stainless steel. Key in Makita miter saw in the RUclips search bar and look for Number one problem if you want to see the video. It's from December 2019.
Picked up the Makita today. Awesome saw
I like my milwaukee 10 inch. It was on sale and cheaper then the corded saw I was looking at and I'm already on the milwaukee platform. It does it's job
I'm waiting to see what Makita does with the 40v Max line in the US. Once I see reviews of 40V Max vs 18v x 2 I'll make a decision.... on which Makita :)
I'm also waiting
Everybody's I have their own favorite but you'd least you're trying to show from your opinions what you think is the best you have to respect that you're not just saying old this is the best this the reason why this falls in this category keep up the great work Cheers With a beer
Thanks for the review.
Your work is appreciated.
There were a lot more miter saws shown in the video footage than made it to the talking part of the video.
Did the other manufacturers pull out ??
We looked at 14 saws and will present them to you in compact, 10” and 12” videos
Thank you for the response.
After I asked the question I saw you had already clarified this to an earlier comment.
Sorry about adding to that dog pile.
Once again I truly appreciate what you are doing with the reviews.
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Great video! I can't wait for the video on the 12" so I can see the new Bosch cordless
soon
I collect rock serpentine and black jade. I would love to install a diamond 12 inch blade to cut large rocks IN THE FIELD. The problem; electricity and water don't mix.
3:17 That looks like the 7-1/4” saw I’d like to see!!
Rob outstanding head to head as usual no stone left unturned! But here’s my gripe! The milwaukee maybe the most accurate out of the box but there’s at least 5 vids on RUclips yours included from 4 years ago that mentions blade deflection due to the way the saw rails go under the saw base!! Have milwaukee rectified this or have you guys just changed your minds?
its been addressed
That Metabo is currently 399 at Lowe's. Is the Milwaukee still the best value if it's $100 more?
In our opinion the best value is an affordable saw that performs well - so yes
Just found your channel. IMO outstanding review. Thank you for taking the time to review these saws!
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If you were to pick up 12 inch dewalt dw 780 and makita 12 inch slide compound i have
Had too many problems with metabo
It doesnt slide very well
Hey Concord crew, love your videos! Thanks for all you do. Just curious though, why wasn't Dewalt included? Do they not make a battery powered 10 inch Mitre saw? Keep doing what your doing and would like to see a speed square show down. Curious how the Milwaukee speed square stacks up. Cheers
No good reason for Dewalt not to have a cordless 10" saw. They are definitely missing out on some sales
DeWALT FLEXVOLT 54V 254MM Sliding Compound Mitre Saw Skin (DCS727N-XE)?
Its not available in the U.S.
Good question! They do not make a 10" cordless, sliding saw
not avail in US - 12" only
I have been thinking about getting a battery saw. Currently, I am invested in the Milwaukee battery platform. I don’t really see the need for one though. I have a Bosch 10” that I have had for 25 years that works great and just got a Metabo 8 1/2”. I still like my Bosch better.
What happen to the dewalt and what looks like kobalt in the video?
Those are 12in miter saws
Very useful info. Thanks a lot. I decide to buy Makita. Because of its nice design, sawdust extraction, and blue tooth trait. And more over, I have already seven 18 V battery from this dealer…
Great review! I think i might pick up the makita. I already run the milwaukee 7 1/4 and its great for most things.
I thought Rob liked the Festool Kapex that comes with laser on both side of the blade. It requires adjustment.
Which saw would you pick if there were all the same price?
Makita for shop, Milwaukee for trailer [jobsite]
Thanks for putting in the time and effort guys. I found this rather helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Because I constantly work it a tight space (England) I choose Makita.
Are the clamps able to slide or do they just stay on the outer edge of the track
Has the crew ever crunched the numbers to determine best overall cordless brand? I’ve got about 20 different Makita 18/36V tools I put through hard field use 10+ years and no complaints yet.
no
Metabo has infinite cuts because it comes with a plug in adaptor 😁
So True unless you're in California and they cut your electricity, lol
Its Metabo HPT, Hikoki, sHitachi, remember that.Metabo is a higher quality, and german engeneered tools.
@@zylent8251 I doubt the electronics are all german.
Wish my corded Metabo HPT saw had infinite cuts😩. It just crapped out on me and wasn’t even used that much. Never again
@@zylent8251 They were both high quality till about 5 years ago when they were respectively made in Japan and Germany. Now, they're all made in China. They still make decent tools, but they're not exceptional or anything. German Metabo even lies by putting "made in Germany" on the box, while the actual tool says "made in China"
Need to test crosscuts in oak or maple. Don't do much trim in S-P-F or lams
Great job as always! Very thorough and insightful testing as always.
My only suggestion would be to test accuracy of the miter at 45° with 1 x 6 red oak. That will show deficiencies easily.
good feedback thx
did you check for cut quality? some could have more blade wobble. and when adjusting the angle some have more slop than others in their bevel notches when it locks in.
@Loyd 503 no plans as of yet
Awesome review! Really thorough. Hoping dewalt comes out with a flexvolt 10”
Order one from the uk mate,they have had a single battery 8 inch and double battery 10 inch flex volts out for years now over here.
@@garethheathcote4988 why do tool companies hate certain parts of the world 😂 it would make so much sense for them to sell that here because I have the 7-1/4 and it lacks a lot of features. But I’ll look into that thanks!
In August I bought the Metabo HPT 10" sliding miter saw, 15 amp so the corded model. The first one i received I felt an extreme amount of vibration and as if it also something similar to a rod knock. Very sloppy head when positiond all the way forward so the max cut capacity towards the user. Upon inspection right away visualaly the fasteners (machine,screws) on the blade side that were going into motor housing. Every single one in that guard/ BLADE side had a gap from back of head on screw and the washer and other side of washer to the surface the washer should of been tight against.
And this is after maybe 10 to 15 cuts through 1"x4" cedar. Brand new Diablo 50tooth BLADE. Then I noticed there was a lot of slop betweer then saws fixed mounting base and the rotating miter base. I could almkst the biggest feeler gauge on a standard set if I applied real world pressure again in the max foward cut position.
The sliding rails bolts were loose enough causing the saw to never be able to stay aligned after I meticulously set it up.
i tightened everything and set it up properly. After I called and had a new,one on its way to get me by. The new one was hardly any better. I returned and got the Hitachi 12" sliding saw older model with fine adjustemnt on miter and bevel.
I VE HEARD THAT THE CORDLESS MODEL IS SO MUCH BETTER ITS LIKE USING A DIFFERENT SAW. I LIKE THE MAKITA AND MILWAUKEE BUT THERE VERY PROUD OF THERE BATTERIES AND TOOLS. METABO HAS THERE BIGSKYTOOL.COM SITE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GET PRO TOOLS AT PRICE CHEAPER THEN THE HOME OWNER / PROSUMER BRAND NEW PRICE.
WERE YOU HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THE METABO SAW IN THIS TEST THAT YOU WOULD HAVD IT IN YOUR TRUCK OR TRAILER TO GET USED EVERY DAY TO EARN A LIVING OR WOULD YOU ONLY GO WITH ONE OF THE 2 THAY,SCORED HIGHER THEN IT.
How does the cordless Makita XSL06PT compare to the Makita LS1019L? Is it basically the same saw, but just the corded version?
same
Why 10in miters vs 12in instead? I like and use 7 1/4s and 12in ones more. Almost never use a 10in
I agree. You either go just 10" or 7 1/4" and 12"
I've got the Makita 12" and Milwaukee 7 1/4"
Both great but the downsides are makita a bit too heavy and Milwaukee loose zero too often.
We did them all and wil present them to you in their respective size categories
If you read the description this is part one. 12" and compact (7 1/4") to follow in later videos.
@@allthegearuk Yup, I see it now. Only watched the full video then went straight to the full article. Either way just sharing my 2 cents of miter saws.
Looking forward to hearing from you after the 12" H2H and the last one the compact H2H
Why did you not test the Bosch?
I have been using the Makita for a couple years and have had a few accuracy issues. The bevel adjustment is in the line of sight. The laser is often out of adjustment. The dust collection is cumbersome and over engineered. The aluminum detent wore out fast. I invested $150 in an aftermarket stainless steel detent. The saw is extremely heavy for a 10” saw. I’m looking at switching to the Milwaukee saw. I’m curious about how much head deflection there is?
It’s pretty stiff, they will all move slightly if you pull on them. You have to useable of these saws with that in mind. Use a chop technique
Just saw the Metabo on sale at Lowe’s in kit with 4ah batt for 399$ kinda hard to beat I think
it went down to 299 during black friday. went fast but I got one.
@@alexs8312 I just picked it up this year for $160.