BEST Compact Cordless Miter Saw - HEAD-TO-HEAD
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Miter Saw Performance
For the performance section, we ran 2 tests: run-time and power
For the power test we made five timed cuts in 7-1/4″ LVL lumber and recorded the average time. This is a simple test with some uncontrolled variables, but our methods were fair.
Makita won the Power Test. This test is a good indication of what the saw and blade configuration can cut. Makita crushed this test coming in at 2.0 seconds, with the Kobalt coming in second at 2.2 seconds per cut, followed by Metabo HPT in third at 2.7 seconds.
For the Run-time Test the Winner was Makita. We made repetitive cuts in KD lumber until the battery was exhausted or thermal overload prevented further cutting.
Operators were instructed to start the saw and bring it up to speed. Bring the saw forward, make the cut, wait for the blade to stop, reset, and repeat.
Makita with its dual battery system crushed this test with 328 cuts.
Bosch and Kobalt also shined in this test, with 248 and 252 cuts respectively, cutting 60+ more cuts than the fourth-place Metabo HPT. No thermal overloads were encountered.
Note, for the overall calculation of the best miter saw we are NOT using this run-time test, we use the normalized ranking that accounts for total battery pack energy (watt-hrs) listed below.
Run-time Normalization by Watt-hours - Winner Craftsman
After running the calculations, Craftsman came in first with 2.4 cuts per watt-hour, followed by DEWALT and Metabo HPT with 2.1 cuts/watt-hr, and third place was Milwaukee with 2.0 cuts/watt-hr.
This test allows us to see who has the most effective combination of battery technology, stamina, and motor power on a per watt-hr basis.
Compact Miter Saw Features - Winner - Milwaukee
The Milwaukee came in first with 21 points followed closely by the Metabo HPT at 22 points. The Kobalt and Makita tied for third with 28 points.
Milwaukee shined with its angle and bevel features, blade cut line, dust collection, and did well in the blade brake, compact size, and maximum angle. It is full-featured, with everything you’d want from a job site saw.
Metabo HPT scored tops in the maximum angle/bevel, outriggers, compact slide, electric brake, and crushes cut capacity. It is a feature-rich, beautifully crafted tool.
Ergonomics evaluation
Bosch and Milwaukee took the ergonomics section with a score of 17-points. Metabo HPT came in second with 19-points.
The team was impressed with the third-place Metabo HPT's manufacturing quality. Its design is precise, modern, and well made. The Bosch on the other hand is a venerable 10-year old design that still holds its own. The team would like to see Bosch re-design the top handle because of its tendency to pinch your hand when transporting.
Dust Collection - Winner -Makita
From carpenters working in finished spaces, to shop workers who want to reduce the amount of airborne dust in their environment, knowing how well a saw will integrate with a vacuum is an important measure of performance for any user.
Makita took first place by capturing 8.9 ounces of dust, followed by a tie between Bosch and Kobalt with 7.9 ounces of sawdust, and Milwaukee came in third with 7.5 ounces.
The DEWALT performed poorly on dust collection. The reason for this was that the dust chutes rubber flaps [behind the saw blade] collapsed when the dust extractor was turned on. While the easy field modification is to cut or remove these flaps - this really should be addressed by DEWALT.
Decibels - Winner Kobalt
The quietest saw was the Kobalt with 84 decibels followed closely by Metabo HPT with 84.4 decibels. Third place went to the Bosch at 84.7 decibels.
Compact Miter Saw Pricing - Winner Craftman
The best-priced compact sliding miter saw was the Craftsman at $249. Second place is the DEWALT at $369 followed by Kobalt at $412.
Overall Best Compact Sliding Miter Saw - Winner Kobalt
The Tool Box Buzz crew has to give hats off to the Kobalt, it was an excellent performer with some nicely thought out features. While the team recognizes that Kobalt is not considered by most to be a Pro brand, it performed well and the numbers speak to that. The Kobalt saw surprised the crew with its impressive runtime. It scored tops in the runtime testing, decibels and price. It took second place in dust collection and the LVL power test and had a solid 3rd place showing in features.
Bosch, Makita and Metabo HPT tied for third place with 30 points.]
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These guys do so much work to get us a well detailed analysis. Thank you
And the part that I like the best is its an UNBIASED detailed analysis
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Ya they’re the best I’ve come across.
Great work as always. I trust your approach and take the results into consoderation... especially when Milwaukee wins haha
I'm so grateful for them. Buying an expensive tool like a mitre saw for a serious hobbyist like me is a big deal and it really helps to make an informed decision.
You guys provide such a transparent and honest review. This service is so valuable. It’s hard to find honest and trustworthy reviews and you guys fill that need brilliantly. Much appreciated!
This channel really is next level, subbed, commented and thumbs'd up on all your head to head testing videos.
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Just get your viewing numbers and subscriber numbers to match that fact.
Sublime effort guys.
Thanks for working so hard to put out these videos. Greatly appreciated !
I’ve been a makita guy for over 15 years but I absolutely love my kobalt miter saw! Has all the features of the Milwaukee. Mine was square right out of the box. I’ve been slowly switching over to kobalt. Can’t beat the price. Got mine for $99 last years Black Friday!
These are absolutely the best tool tests out there! Keep it up!
I’ve made so many purchases based on your reviews. Simply the best overall most professional on RUclips. I own the Dewalt 7 1/4 saw and currently looking to replace my 12in Delta Cruzer with something a bit smaller and lighter but still want power and capacity. Leaning towards the Metabo miter and table saw. Like the option of corded also. Thanks
I've been waiting for this one, thanks that was a big help!
Simply the best tool review guys around! Thank you guys for all the hard work!
YESSS. Finally! I have been patiently waiting for this one. Thank you!
I got the Craftsman because my priority was portability. I strap it to the back of my Quad and go out into the field to cut 1x6 fence boards. Only downside is the power on hardwood boards, but.... that was expected since it is so small and light. Great review! Cements my opinion of the Craftsman.
Your tool evaluations are always interesting and informative. Thank-you.
I love my Kobalt saw and use it 90 percent of the time now its a pro saw and has not let me down, My 12 inch flexvolt has not been used in a long time, with a 6amp hour battery i am good for almost three days with this Kobalt saw of trim work all day long so its a non issue, Fantastic ! just no need for a big heavy saw anymore unless i am crosscutting large 2x etc or tall crown, Love it and so glad I bought it ! great Review as always !
Enjoyed this presentation, information and the format in which it was presented. Good job and thank you for what you provide!
The neighbors must just absolutely love you after test days 😂
I take good care of them
@@ConcordCarpenter you seem like a solid guy Rob, I’m sure you do!
Great work again guys. Always look forward to your tests. Happy holidays!!
I just bought a Craftsman V20 6 tool kit because it was $15 more than just the Harbor Freight Bauer oscillating tool and batteries and charger I actually needed. So since all of a sudden my cordless tool vendor is Craftsman, and I need a miter saw soon, Craftsman is my first consideration. You guys made a LOT of cuts and gave all these saws a LOT of run time and use, so considering that and how well the Craftsman scored, I'm confident it'll be a good choice to add to my cordless tool collection. Thank you for the absolute best review of miter saws I could have asked for!
Love the reviews and the work you do! Thank you guys.
I bought a craftsman 10” mitter saw. It’s so light weight, portable and compact you can storage anywhere as its foldable and it sits right up. I am very happy with it. Just wish Dewalt came up with something like that as I am very invested in their products, particularly in their cordless products.
Hey Rob
Thanks to you and your testers i was trying to decided on a smaller saw for trim as finish carpenter as a high end cabinet maker told me has better teeth alignment to the piece, and less vibration.
I reviewed many narrowed to Milwaukee, Bosch, Makita and Metabo. After video demo and reviews became dual Makita or Metabo with larger cut capacity and features. My choice became the makita as the metabo doesn't even offer a saw stand.
Ah the internet makes life easier as long as there is channel like this one.
Thanks Rob and tot the crew
I have an old makita 10" miter saw that just didnt have the cut capacity and weighs a ton. A few days ago I bought the corded Kobalt 7 1/4 sliding miter, simgle bevel miter saw and what a difference. Larger cut capacity, blades are cheap, I have a lot of 7 1/4 blades and the 60t diablo ultra finish I had new fits it perfectly.
I was using my circ saw on anything wider than 2x6 but I'll be using the miter saw a lot more around the house.
I need to know how accurate they are once adjusted. How do they compare to each other fully setup opperating at their peak. How easy to adjust is important, but how they came from the factory, as a professional is not so important. Once properly adjusted how does it stack up. Ty, fantastic and informative vids
I got that kobalt 24v 7-1/4 for $100 on a flash sale Lowes had and has not let me down, best 100 bucks spent for a saw of that quality
Ye is a old video but it works for me right now, because thanks to it I got my makita compact miter saw without regrets
I have the DeWalt and the dust collection does need some help. What I did was leave it up and pushed the rubber outside of the blade guard wheels. After a day it molded the rubber open. Now the dust collection works really well. I also considered gluing plastic to the back of the rubber to keep it open too like a nose breathing strip, we'll see if it comes to that.
I did that, it works lol but yeah in general the dust collection is not the greatest
Great job team! I found it very helpful and most importantly useful!
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it and share it. I’m a Makita guy but having trouble pulling the trigger being it would be a 3rd miter saw. Maybe the Craftsman would be a good one for me. Thanks again 👍🏻👍🏻
Rob....always excellent.. thorough..well presented...keep up with these reviews...I'm a tradesman from the UK... Yr channel is superb and greatly appreciated...cheers to u and all the fellas ...keep up the good work x
Excellent review!!! Got the Craftsman for $203 as a kit out the door & have had it a year & a half now. It's been an excellent saw & I was shocked how accurate mine was. I like the smaller footprint & weight of the Craftsman & it has extras the DeWalt doesn't like a depth stop for dados & rubberized grip. Just wish it had a top handle. Otherwise, it's just like the DeWalt but scaled down to save 10lbs of weight. Best DIY value unless you got the Kobalt on that insane $99 deal last year.
Thanks for this awesome video, just picked up the Milwaukee with a free 8.0 for 399 on Cyber Monday. Glad I'm getting a great saw that should serve me well!
The Kobalt is a great saw. I've been running one for 2 years. Just does a great job. Zero issues with 2 years of heavy use. Pro cabinet maker. If i'm not building cabinets then I'm installing.
How precise is it and it's everything adjustable?
I like the whistle break sound battery mitre and table saws make. Nice video.👍🏻
Great video & article and how great you go into detail testing each of the saw saw. I have the Milwaukee & no regrets
Nice review. Always enjoy watching these
It’s December 2020 and I’ve had that makita for about 2-1/2 years now. I keep 6.0 batteries on it. It can fit on my passenger seat if I want it to. It is one of my most valued tools. I have the stand for it as well. I can pick it up on the stand and move it around if I have to. It cuts anything pretty much. I like not carrying my 12 inch makita around. But the best set up ever Is when I get them both going in a straight line with material standouts on either side and a trash can in the middle. I can slide 16 foot trim between the two and drop waste in the can in the middle. Ideally you’d want 4 saws going and only set an angle once on each saw. So next I’ll probably go with a ten inch makita two battery saw, then I’d have that little makita in the middle for just straight cuts.
Another an excellent review thank you guys!
Concord Carpenter, thanks for your hard work, this testing takes alot of time...Greetings from Netherlands
Just discovered this channel. WOW! Subbed for sure. So much work for this info, thank you so much! Look forward to more videos!
Thanks!
The best reviews put there. Great job guys
I really enjoy all the miter saws h2d. Thanks
Best tool reviews on YT. Your channel should have a million subs. Keep up the excellent work. Eventually, this channel will explode. Your work is detailed, unbiased and thorough. Thanks!!
Maybe one day!
Awesome testing job guys!
This should be an interesting long thread 😜😉! Great job thanks guys!
Im 2 min into this video and no matter the out come I love my Kobalt 24V and for $99 flash sale last year it cant be beat
I got in on that too - an unbelievable deal
Diddo!
Great review, Rob. Loved it. I’ll watch your others.
this my FAV painter?
Another great test,and great data for weekend warriors.
But let's face it,very few contractors will have 4 batteries and 1 seperate tool brand for value's sake.
My 2 exceptions to my m12/m18, Makita 18/x2 lines are,Ryobi pin nailer with adapters for red and teal,a Ridgid shop vacuum with teal adapters.
Most flaws can be overcome by a work-around, all poor dust collection needs is a hood and a tarp below,no shadowline add an led inside blade guard,and etc.
Fantastic job to the whole TBB crew👊.
I have use the cobalt sliding dual bevel miter saw cordless for over two years. My only issue has been with the cobalt is they do not make replacement parts for it so if you break a part on it, you’re out of luck you have to get a new saw they do not make parts for the cobalt, compact, sliding miter saw.
I watch this channel more for Rob’s presentation skills than tools. Rob puts most corporate presenters to shame. Big shout out from 🇬🇧
Hi Rob, thanks for all you do on this channel. Can you or better said, do you have plans to test the newer Makita 40 volt 8-1/2 miter saw?
Brilliant, another great review.
Good breakdown for framing! I would like to see a little more effort paid to finish carpentry for the mitre saws especially. Ease of setting non-standard angles, thickness of indicator lines, microadjustment knobs, etc. Basically everything you tested on these could be equally applied to circular saws, but circular saws really shouldn't be used for finish trim work, or any sort of finer projects like building picture frames, etc.
Also even just for the framing, built in stops, clamps, (I hate my bosch's clamping system), are pretty important to the day-to-day use of a mitre saw, and seem to have been missed here.
This is exactly the video I needed to see, although some of these saws are in completely different price brackets.
Another great job lads 🏴
Hey Rob thanks for your testing and information on tools over the years. I have yet to make a decision I regretted based on your opinions. Lastly I picked up the 36 volt makita rear handled circular saw. That said I would like to see you do comparisons on cordless sanders. Orbital as well as belt. Thanks for all your help. Jesus love you.
My 7 1/4 Ridgid has been great. They re released it in Canada so it may come back to the US.
Thanks so much for the info! Ive been considering which one to get. If you haven’t done a review on the ridged 7 1/4” saw, would you be able to do one?
I am gonna have to buy some merch or something from you all. The content you deliver such great quality, really love it.
Thanks man -- please subscribe
💯% respect yalls turnouts Kobalt especially with the XTR line is a brand to watch out for they aint joking around and have there eyes on being in the top 3 as a very strong contender
Wow, surprise showing from the Craftsman. I still can't say I'd buy one, but like you said, best value based on your rankings. Going to go find the 10" and 12" videos now. Thanks!
Love your reviews dude!
I might change my morning alarm to the audio of everyone using the saws all at once. The wife will LOVE it🤣
Bro best tool reviews on the tube, hands down
Seriously, thank you for your time.
I trust you guys( a bunch of tradesmen doing reviews) more than most of the BS reviews out there( most are bought and paid for by the brands they recommend). Kudos and a big THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO!
Great job! I bought the Kobalt based on your review.
This came just in time. I am looking at the Makita, I own a corded Makita 10" and it is a hassle in a finished house. a 7 1/2 cordless would be much more convenient, I started with a 7 1/2 decades ago when that was all there was.
Great work guys, thanks for the great reviews. I found trade shows don't allow in-depth use to review anymore so your reviews help look at everything.
Hi Robert, I’ve had the 36v Makita for a couple years and use it 95% of the time over my 10 and 12 inch saws. I’ve had siding jobs where the batteries lasted for a full week and it has power out the ying/yang. Not even mentioning the difference in price for 7 1/4” blades.
I still have my old nimh makita 7-1/2. I added an adapter to run my li-ion batteries and its still going strong after 15 years, and some bearings replaced over the years. I really want to replace it with a dual bevel saw, but mine hasn't died yet
Thanks a lot guys!!!
The craftsman is a beast I use it to cut schluter metal bullnose sticks and it rips thru like butter also use it for pretty much everything and gets it done. I got fir 114 at Lowe’s couldn’t pass up on it.
Great info, I like that I can pick and choose the categories important to me. I took price out and it really rearranged things.
Good stuff!
bought the kobalt for $99 unbeatable
thank you for this information
Would really enjoy seeing a corded miter saw head to head. I think all your previous have been with cordless correct? If I am incorrect someone please let me know.
I don’t personally own any Kobalt, (I’m vested in Milwaukee) However, It seems like Kobalt is trying to prove itself as a potential “Pro Tool”. I respect your opinion and as always. Thank you and your team for the hard work, time and dedication you always Deliver in these tool tests. ~Dustin
Some value brands come late to a market so they can copy features of their competition but the build quality will not hold up well and won't produce consistent work in the long run
Thanks for the help guys 😎
I've been waiting for this one.
Great review thanks. Maybe I missed it but any reason the Ridgid wasn’t involved? Any thoughts? I’m considering it. Thanks
I think one of the biggest flaws of miter saw design is the inability to do a score cut without having to bump out the material. Tracksaw users love scorecuts, a miter saw is basically the same thing so it should be equally important. I understand that there is no room to push the blade back further because then they're sacrificing overall cut length but really how many times do people pull the blade all the way out to the max position I'm sure they would gladly sacrifice that for a score cut that goes all the way to the back of the board.
Thanks for doing this
I'm starting over with battery powered tools. I have a 20 year old suite of Dewalt (drill, hammer drill, circular saw, reciprocating saw and flex gooseneck light) that I'm about to retire. My last couple of NiCad batteries are dying out, these old Dewalt tools are big, bulky and heavy but very tough. I want to start over with the newer lightweight Lithium battery versions. In addition to the battery powered tools I have already listed, I will want to add: battery powered Oscillating saw, jig saw, grinder and 7.25" sliding compound miter saw as you guys have reviewed above. This will be for my personal use which will be light and some handyman work that will also be fairly light. I think Dewalt, Ryobi, Milwaukee, Kobalt, Makita + more make all these battery powered tools I will be getting. Can you recommend a brand to go with that will be good quality and a good value where the same batteries work on every tool. I'm leaning towards the Kobalt due to the good review on the sliding compound mitre saw you guys did here.
If there is a clear winner in your mind for a line of hand tools that doesn't have a quality lightweight 7.25" Sliding compound Mitre saw, I'd still like to know what brand that is because I am willing to go with a different product and different batteries for just the 7.25" Mitre saw and everything else a different brand with the same batteries if that is the way to go. The Ryobi packages seem to have some excellent pricing but I've never owned a Ryobi tool. I have a tiny light weight Bosch battery powered drill that I always reach for first because of it's feather light weight. So 1. what brand that has all the tools I want, good quality, good value and 2. what brand that has all the tools I want except the Mitre saw? which I can buy separately. Also, I'm not opposed to Harbor Freight tools, they seem to be offering some competition with quality examples in some tools now. thanks, Tim
I have the Milwaukee and my only complaint is the lack of a depth stop. My favourite thing about it is the weight
I have a milwaukee aswell the size of it and weight is great
I have it as well and my back loves it.
I really like the comprehensive honest reviews. I personally own a Bosch compound miter (electric). Love the saw. My previous miter saw was a rigid. Hated that saw.
Which model did you buy? Do you still love it?
Great review! I'm surprised that Craftsman came it second place. And a testament to great engineering, dewalt saw has a brushed motor and still came in second place in the normalize runtime, goes to show engineering in a product is critical.
Because saws are used at full power brushless and brushed there isn't a big difference in runtime like a drill or impact driver
I'm patiently waiting for the makita 40v 6 1/2" saw to come out!
What did you do when it came out at a 8 1/2?😂
Great video, very informative. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Serious dedication to getting as many accurate stats as possible. Excellent content
Thanks
I‘d say the most important point on mitre saws is precision. So I‘d rank precision over stuff like runtime. That’s why I got the Bosch. With two 8ah core batteries it easily serves me the whole day. I personally prefer the laser over the blade shadow as for me it works better in direct sunlight. But that’s just personal taste I guess.
What size did you buy? Do you still love it?
What do you think about a corded mitersaw with a high end blade like a Forrest. Something you’d use on a high end job site or wood shop. Or a high end blade comparison would be cool too
I've seen several out of the box, new examination of tools. I'd like to see such an effort on tools, at least 1 year in to usage. Real usage.
Great point!
I grew up on Hitachi. I have their current 12in dual bevel slider, and I had the previous 2006 model that was way overbuilt, looked like an alien, and had the same fine bevel adjustments as this compact one. I really wish they would come up with a more reasonable price for this one. I know R&D is expensive and I’m sure it’s well built. It’s just hard to justify that price when I also already have two 12in dual bevel sliders…the other being a Ridgid branded Delta Cruzer. Honestly though, I didn’t realize this saw had a laser. I may go buy it now…still prefer them over LED’s.
I have the Kobalt and I’m satisfied. The value is unbeatable for a duel bevel saw.
Especially at the $100 price they sold them at one day like a year ago.
@@orijimi yes I got the battery for free. So I paid about $310 incredible value
I own and use the DeAlt saw professionally and while I like it and use it; i agree it can benefit from a gen 2 upgrade. It needs dual bevel and would benefit from adjustable fence. The DeWalt is just a good cheap pro grade saw. It’s nice in that it uses the standard 20 Volt batteries. It works great for trim as you can bring it right in next to you given its size. I love the small wall and find I use it more than the 12” just because it’s smaller, lighter, and easier to move.
fyi fence is adjustable screws on back side
Thanks for testing the craftsman was about to sell it and get the Milwaukee for home use👍
Thanks for all your hard work, got a question, I'm a Milwaukee guy, I'm a farmer but do all sorts of projects in my house, rental property and on the farm and I'm wanting to upgrade saws, what Milwaukee do u recommend?? This one, the 10 inch or the 12 inch? I want a saw for the next 10-20 years.
Hi, for the Makita 7 ½ inch saw, did you also use the Milwaukee 60 tooth 7 ¼ inch blade? Maybe adding the footprint in the specs would be good? Thanks for the comparison video by the way, really helpful!
I have the DeWalt saw, not the best out of the test (though I have the european adapted version) but I just want to say that it does really well, I build several sheds with it etc. one battery a day. But I think I will go to their flexvolt version if they don't upgrade this one. (I am on the Dewalt platform otherwise I would've gone for the Millwaukee tbh)
Can you attach the metabo to a Dewalt DWX723 Miter Saw Stand. Thank you. We appreciate your hard work and good information.. I like the metabo
Best reviews around!!
What's amazing is the Dewalt and Craftsman are both brushed and came in 1st and 2 nd in runtime
I think it's down to power consumption vs efficiency. While brushless motors are more efficient at delivering power, the manufacturers are stepping up to more powerful motors in their brushless offerings. It's like a fuel efficient V8 vs an older less efficient 6 cylinder. I have this craftsman and I like it. The run time on a 4ah battery is good. But I also notice it's not as powerful. So, it's using less power to spin the blade than a more powerful brushless saw
@@erics.4113 the dewalt was the most powerful
@@loucifer323 I'm sure it is. The same company owns both brands I don't see them offering more power in their less premium brand.
Im happy with the craftsman for light duty it's just fine and battery life seems good (possibly down to it being less powerful).
@@erics.4113 I have the dewalt it cuts great it doesn't bog down, unless you're cutting something that's not designed for, and as far as not having duel bevel I always flip everything over it very rare were you ever need to use duel bevel
@@loucifer323 is that 7 1/4 as well? I may go to a 10inch or possibly larger some time in the future I noticed when doing miters it dramatically reduces the size of lumber I can use.
Very well done, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
I recently bought the corded kobalt 7 1/4. Im returning it today. The plastic degree lock on the table was not positive at all. I could not get consistently square cuts
Watched this after my purchase, I'm glad I bought my Kobalt...