Best Barrel Grip Jigs Saw ~ Head-2-Head
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Best Cordless Barrel Grip Jigsaw
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For this evaluation, several categories were developed including; Precision & Accuracy, Performance (speed/power), Features, Ergonomics, and Price.
Each of the categories was ranked individually and used to determine the Best Barrel Grip Jigsaw based on the combined results.
Accuracy
For the accuracy category each of the jigsaws was ranked on accuracy in the following areas:
• Line of Sight
• Blade tracking
• Bevel accuracy when set to 45 degrees.
• Cross-cut accuracy when set to 90 degrees (how perpendicular the cut is to the surface)
Line of Sight
For the scroll cutting each saw was set to maximum speed with zero orbital action. A scrolling template was used to trace all the boards consistently, and each jigsaw was used to make numerous cuts in 3/4'" Poplar.
The DEWALT and Makita both had excellent cut line visibility, and the Makita was the best performing saw on the scroll cuts.
The Milwaukee cut line visibility was good but not great and the Hilti dust shroud got in the way of the line of sight so we removed it. We all agreed that if we owned this saw the Hilti shroud would stay off.
The Festool saw blade was difficult to see. The small-sized Diablo blade got lost [visually] inside the V-shaped blade guard.
When cutting bevels the DEWALT saw had the best bevel sightline. Makita sightlines were slightly obscured, and Festool and Milwaukee had terrible sightlines. The Hilti sightline was good, but the LED light was blocked when set to a bevel.
Clean Cutting
Getting clean jigsaw cuts with only light splintering, tear out, and surface chipping is chiefly a matter of selecting a blade that's designed for the job.
The DEWALT, Hilti, and Makita produced the cleanest edge, cutting saws with the least tear-out. This "clean-cut result," was also due to using the same Diablo blades along with the operator's skill set using the tools.
The Festool and Milwaukee surprised us with rougher cuts
Blade Deflection
Every cut was measured and evaluated for blade deflection at 45-degree and 90-degree cutting. On the 90-degree cuts, Milwaukee ranked the best, followed by Makita and Festool.
On the 45-degree cuts, the Makita ranked the best, followed by the Festool, and Milwaukee.
Blade Tracking
Tracking was evaluated by following lines to see how easy or hard it was to follow the line. The Makita, Festool, and DEWALT were the best tracking jigsaws.
It's worth noting that when scoring the line-of-sight, points were awarded based on the operator's ability to consistently see the blade cutting through the poplar. Points were not awarded based on the cut-line deviation from the template cut-line. This ensured that operator error was minimized as a primary scoring factor in this evaluation area.
Accuracy Winner - MAKITA
Makita scored tops in three out of the four categories [clean cuts, tracking, and 45-degree blade deflection] and came in second 90-degree blade deflection. It scored a near-perfect score of 5-points and is truly a nice cutting, accurate jigsaw.
Performance Testing (Power/Speed)
The sled fixture held the saws securely and the aluminum tracks kept the saw moving in a consistent and parallel fashion. The saws were in contact with the sled and the sled in contact with the workpiece.
Performance Testing (Power/Speed) - Winner Milwaukee
We rank the performance testing by normalizing Watt-hours. Milwaukee came in on top followed by Hilti and Festool. When watching this test all of the crew members commented on Milwaukee's speed, which equates to power.
Features - Winner DEWALT
The DEWALT saw scored top in four feature categories 2nd in one category and 3rd in two categories with a total score of 12-points. A real close second place went to Makita with 13-points with 1st or 2nd place scores in every category. Third place went to Milwaukee with 14-points.
Ergonomics Winner - Hilti and Makita
Hilti and Makita tied in ergonomics with 6-points, which was four points ahead of the Festool and 7-points ahead of the DEWALT. Hilti had the best grip, tied on the blade change, and was the most friendly tolefties. Makita had the best and safest trigger and tied for the best blade change.
Vibration - Winner Festool
Best Cordless Jigsaw Winner -Festool and Makita
The best barrel grip jigsaw score was a tie and went to the Festool and Makita with 12-points. Festool earned strong scores in Speed / Power Normalization, Vibration, and Scroll Cutting / Tracking. It is a highly engineered, well-made tool.
Makita had strong showings in Ergonomics, Features, and Scroll Cutting / Tracking.During this testing, there were two saws that the crew kept talking about as being the nicest to operate and use - Makita and Hilti in that order. Makita being the crew favorite.
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Seriously lol amazing review best out there
Absolutely agree. There are very very few tool reviews I pay any attention to. You guys are at the top of that very short list. You consistently come up with testing criteria that cover aspects I wouldn't have thought of without actually having the tool in hand, and that's a valuable part of these videos. Thank you!
*HOW DO YOU FIGURE? WE DID NOT SEE ANY OF THE TOOLS IN ACTION. THIS IS JUST A LECTURE OF OPINION. WE DO NOT SEE WHICH SAW ACTUALLY HAS THE LEAST RIP OUT, ETC.*
@@PostUp_Time is watching a video of the tool really going to add any value? This channel is the most thorough and fair by FAR. If you like "watching" tools work I guess go somewhere else?
I'm a 40 plus year professional wood worker and must say you guys are the best tool reviewers out there. Thanks for your efforts. Just brilliant.
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Hands down the best tool reviews around. Great work lads. Thorough, no nonsense, real world applications, and you always acknowledge different people will sometimes prefer what they prefer. Your channel is always the first thing I check when I'm about to buy a new tool.
Your reviews are priceless.. Literally the best there is, you set the standard. Thanks so much for all the info you provide us all, we are lucky to have you, man!
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Some time numbers doesn't give the real feeling about the tools that is why your review is more trusted because you do give what you felt during the test.
We trust your reviews more than you think.
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Rob, you are impossibly nice to the folks that elect to nitpick the outcomes of your testing. Thanks for all you do. As always, perfect review.
I used to have a jigsaw attached to my hand most of the day scribing for kitchens and wardrobe panel fits. Then I got carpal tunnel, had an op and I’ve never had the strength in my hand to scribe accurately with a jigsaw since. Take care of your hands carpentry friends. Especially with old tools that vibrate a lot. Great video as usual. 😊👍🏻
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I wish there was a way for rob to review tools full time. … in a perfect world he would be my go to source for everything
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Thanks so much for your dedication to excellence.
The info is very helpful.
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you can turn off the the soft no-load rotation
function on the Makita
Disabling the soft no-load rotation
function
Country specific
To disable the soft no-load rotation function, follow the
steps below.
1. Make sure that the tool is turned off.
2. Set the speed adjusting dial to “1”.
3. Press the lock/unlock button to turn on the tool.
4. Set the speed adjusting dial to “6” by turning it, and
then set it to “1” by turn it back.
The lamp blinks twice to indicate that the soft no-load
rotation function is disabled. To enable this function again,
perform the same procedure again.
NOTE:
• If the soft no-load rotation function is disabled, the lamp
blinks twice when the tool is turned on.
• You can also disable or enable the soft no-load rotation
function by changing the speed adjusting dial from “6”
to “1” and changing it from “1” to “6”.
Thank you! This is the only thing about this saw that I didn't really care for, I had no idea you could turn it on and off
Yes. Super helpful! I have a Makita 12v jigsaw. Will try this procedure on it and see what happens.
Only works on newer Models, I have a older one and it's not mentioned in the manual and it does not work.
Still a good saw, but I'd like to use downcut blades and for that the soft start is a no go.
Very cool - thanks for sharing!!
@@mst5517 Ah. Makes sense with the down cut. Those are awesome blades, by the way.
I love Rob's exhaustive lists. It's a real treat I always look forward to.
The only one review channel where I trust. Other review channels... they are millions miles behind you! Keep doing what you're doing! All the best for you lads!
For a least 20 years I had the Bosch jigsaw, 3 years ago I purchased a mafell, what I like, 1,the unique blade clamping system, no roller blade guide so little friction so very little heat and the blades last much longer, 2, the base slides back providing an amazing line of sight and you can almost cut up to a wall /backsplash, 3, you can put the blade in backwards which allows you to cut from underneath...great for scribing what I don't like the price and the special non deflection blades are only available through mafell . Would be nice to see mafell have more suppliers in North America
Yeah, but Mafell P1cc is corded only, right now Mafell has no cordless jigsaw, and this test was about cordless only.
@@loochan325 Yes that is true, for some people that may be an issue, for me it is not, with the type of work I do there is always a nearby power source, and one fewer battery that I will have too buy and eventually dispose of
Mafell is well made but no cordless
@@ConcordCarpenter now Mafell has new cordless!
@@ConcordCarpenter SO WHAT??? Corded tools are still the best at performance/price/cost/durability! Stop the "Everything must be Cordless-Madness"!!!
Thorough testing! I recently bought the Makita barrel jig saw, based on so many good reviews.
This review had a very good balance between the measured results and the actual impressions of the users, keep that up! :)
Thank you very much!
Good as always. I like the fact that you included what the team thought as well as the test results (like the vibration test). Like a lot of woodworkers, I tend to use the same battery platform (for me, it's Makita) although I will go outside the brand for a good reason. Your comparison testing gives me good information to help me make a good decision as to what to buy. Thank you to the team for the effort you all put into the testing. Keep up the good work.
Was gonna buy milwaukee before I watched this, now it'll be Makita for my needs thanks.
Fantastic head to heads as always, I like to comment and thumbs up to support the YT algorithm.
You guys arent a day in day out tool testing company but you are the best head to head power tool company worldwide on YT. Thats a feat.
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I have an older corded festool one and it can cut 2 inch/50mm oak with no blade deflection at 90 degree. The blade guide/roller has a adjustable throat so it can be perfect for any width of blades. Ofcourse the blade itself is a big factor also. Dunno if new ones arent that good or blade roller wasnt adjusted correctly in this test?
I have 3 models shown and the Makita is hands down the best of the 3.. I actually also went and bought the 12v model as well and it’s just as good other than a little more tear out
I always love your videos. The Dewalt seems like a winner. I do, however, always get the feeling that some of the rankings do come down to familiarity with a particular tool over another. Not a criticism at all as I typically agree with your findings.
I still like my corded Bosch and Makita barrel handle. I do like battery tools but it always adds to the cost, especially when u go to buying replacement batteries. With a corded tool, you know you're gonna have power and reliability.
Been a carpenter for 40 years and never even heard of festool. When i was looking for a new half sheet sander, i found out why. The price my Milwaukee was a little under 200 bucks. The festool was almost 400 bucks. Depending on where you bought it. And my Milwaukee is still going strong after 20 years. Just can't find parts ha. That's why the search for a new one. Ended up with a Bosch os50vc. Found a deal on Amazon for 179. A send back. Brand new. Bosch makes great tools too.
Excellent review and test. I’m shocked that not one single saw has a traditional trigger! I have run old Bosch warhorse barrel grip for twenty years and now I’m in the market for a cordless . I can’t believe no makes a saw with a trigger.
Having a Milwaukee barrel grip, I just wanted to point out after seeing this, that there is an Allen wrench that pulls out the back of the base plate. The Milwaukee has incredible power, and that’s the only thing that’s important for what I do with it, but I’m not picky since I build cattle troughs, enclosures, head gates/squeeze shoots, mainly with it.
Makita as usual. So well made, well balanced and thought out. They have swing and missed on some things. But overall tough to beat.
Too bad the soft start is hideous
The button placement, the permanent A mode, the splinter-guard falling out the minute you turn it on…
@@milangeurkink9917 Its easily turned off, google makita 18 v jig saw soft start, I did it on mine in 50 seconds.
Festool LED lights turn off if you flip it up side down, saves lights shining in your eyes if you are cutting bellow material.
Festool Auto speed control is the only way to get the carvex to run at maximum speed. You can't set it to maximum speed manually. Manually top speed is slower.
Festool Carvex can often run out of sync. This means when you switch it off it parks its self in the wrong place so you are unable to release the blade. To solve this you have to turn jigsaw back on and wait few seconds so its back in sync then turn it off and it should park at the top. So you can release blade.
You could also push the blade up manually but sometimes if its fully down you can't push it manually you need to quick start to move its position then push manually
Thank you for your hard work.
You have helped me buy all my tools.
You all amazing.
Love your reviews.
Much better than anything else out there.
Have you done any reviews for jigsaw blades?
Not yet
First off, thanks for the thorough and informative video. You always do a great job. Second, although the specs, data, and comparisons are enjoyable (because I'm a fanatic) I seem to keep falling back to familiarity and enjoyment of use as qualifications for my tool purchases. Visual appearance is in play as well. I'm quite loyal to Makita and have only been let down once I think. Unless they just completely flop on a specific tool, I'm pretty much happy with my purchases. That being said, there are many tools/brands I haven't had my hands on. So, there is that. BUT, I went with Hitachi cordless nailguns. And from all I've seen and heard, that was a good decision.
Everyone enjoy your woodworking!
Fantastic review. The best I‘ve seen. Thank you, guys!
Love My Makita 18vLXT saws over a decade of using them and still going strong. I bought the d handle jigsaw and its awesome too.
Right on
Love all the head to head videos Rob. Keep them coming. I just have one little thought and it may very well be solely my opinion but I wanted to share. I don’t think breaking the power / performance category down into watt hours is 100% fair. The Milwaukee would perform the same whether it has a 3.0 HO battery on it as if it were to have their 12.0 HO battery on it. I know the Milwaukee won this performance category but did not in your D handle head to head due to higher watt hours. If you would have had a 3.0 HO battery on the M18 D handle it would have won the performance category and then won overall I believe. Get what I’m saying? Just wanted to comment on that, love the videos.
I just bought both the Makita and Milwaukee barrel grip jigsaws. The Milwaukee, just like the Makita, has an onboard hex key integrated in the shoe to adjust the bevel.
My old wired jigsaw died after 20 years, got the makita last week as already had a makita drill driver with battery and was very surprised by it having so much less vibration over my old one. I regret not demoing or even looking at these sooner
Highly detailed study. Amazing.
Though Milwaukee is low on your review list for barrel grip jigsaws, there is one thing about Hilti, Milwaukee, Dewalt, and Festool jigsaws, they are all excellent jigsaws. I am on the Milwaukee platform and have never been disappointed with any Milwaukee tool I owned. So I'll get the Milwaukee because I currently have the Milwaukee platform.
Terrific test schedule, and big kudos for your cutting test jig!
Thank you! Cheers!
I’m pretty sure the makita soft start can be turned off with a certain speed change with battery in and power on off. It’s right in the manual.
Yes it can, thanks
Been waiting for this video, awesome.
Great review! Crazy that the bare tool Makita now in January 2023 is almost $100 more than when this video was released!
Hands down you guys do the most fair, non bias tool testing / reviews on RUclips. My favorite tool channel!
Good stuff , you guys always come through with the entertainment and Info.
guys, love your tests
you are the best
thank you!
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Hi, I really like the test you have done, Makita second place, I agree, considering the price for a Festool.
Thank you for all the work you have done, I have just ordered a barrel handle Makita.
Thank you again
Love the tool tests. Would like to see flex tools in the mix as well
I brought the hilti but didn't like not being able to very the speed whilst using it, so I went with the d handle version. Which is brilliant.
This video is marvellous. Thanks for the efforts!
Thx
Another great review, thank you for taking the time to produce & share. Even though it wasn’t part of your review, I love my Bosch 18V barrel grip.
Review? We didn't see any of the tools being used. this was just a long winded lecture of his opinion. waste of time to call it a review
Thanks for this detailed test. I myself have the Mafell P1CC, a great machine but not cordless. After seeing this test I am considering purchasing the Makita. The Makita will not replace the Mafell but is handy to have.
Stats can be misleading.
I like stats but I like how you guys give your opinion on the overall experience with the tool. perfect.
Because ultimately That's what I want a tool that is pleasurable and efficient to use.
Always do great tool reviews...thank you!
Thank you. A lot of good info.
Makita brings a solid tool to the table most of the time. Good video . Although I wish you would have thrown the good old tried and true Bosch corded barrel jig saw.
Bosch is making a cordless now.
@@michaelhamerin3814 I haven't seen anything Bosch cordless that is very impressive yet. I have a really like their corded barrel jigsaw and it is a great jigsaw. Bosch would have to come with a battery one that is better in every way to make sense for me to buy it. All these manufacturers are really starting to push some great tools across many professions making it hard but yet great if you are needing new tools.
@@fuelediowa I was just bring in up the fact that they do make a cordless, I haven't had any experience with it. I can tell u that I have a Metabo cordless, not compared here either, and it is great. The 18v/36v line is a great set of tools.
Love the makita jig saw I swapped for festool and the setup on them is a bit of a pain… I find if not setup correctly the saw blade twists and pops out when cutting curves.
I have two Makita barrel grip jigsaws and my favourite feature is that they are made in the UK. I try to buy as few Chinese made tools as possible. I also have some USA made Makita collated screw guns. I'd love it if you mentioned where the tool was made in your reviews.
Great point.
Word, I own many as well and that does sway my purchase. Having said I am now in the market to replace the underwhelming non-brushless d handle model and the new barrel grips are Chinese.
Festool time?
@@badopinion Wait what? Which model?
Why dont you like chinese made tools?
@@ALJessica Because the majority of all thing's made in China is a lower quality tool. Cable smaller, motor smaller, plastic cheaper, steel cheaper.... it's add on and on!
Just an accurate, amazing and well explained test! Thank you for teh awesome Job and great video.
I had makita and went to dewalt, had not a moment to regret ever during a year already 😉
I bought the makita even though it was more expensive and I'm glad I did. It's the best jig saw I've ever owned
Great video as always
I love the carvex, Just feels right.
Great review, and even better methodology.
I have to say though, as a carpenter and woodworker, that IMHO a jigsaw is a finish tool, not a demolition tool. Thus, I care far more about accuracy than power. I'll stick with Makita.
Agreed
you can turn off the Soft-Start by doing this. :)
- Make sure that the tool is turned off.
- Set the speed adjusting dial to "1".
- Press the lock/unlock button to turn on the tool.
- Set the speed adjusting dial to "5" by turning it,
and then set it to "1" by turn it back.
The lamp blinks twice to indicate that the soft no-load rotation function is disabled. To enable this function again, perform the same procedure again.
I use the jigsaw a lot for cutting curves in 2" and 4" wood. Went through 3 Bosches always upgrading to the next best one. It had a little guide similar to the Festool. Always had a problem keeping the blade perpendicular. Then I got the Festool. It still didn"t work that well. Got tired of fooling around with that little guide and it finally fell off somewhere. Got the Makita and that has been the best so far. I save the Festool for cutting Hardee board using a fast-cut wood blade. Wouldn't want to dirty my Makita on that.
Thank you for your videos
The battery actually gets in the way of my arm position on the Dewalt. I find myself reaching for the D handle version more often. Looks like everyone except Dewalt and Hilti got that right
Are you lying down while using the tool 😂
I think hilti and dewalt got it right
Great video thanks very helpful, saved me a few quid
And I absolutely love my Makita barrel grip.
My winner is Festool, have been testing it week in week for the last six years
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
I have been waiting for this review. Thanks for all the work. Any chance you have experience with the Bosch 470EB? I’m a Makita guy and about to buy a jigsaw. For cost alone, I have the Bosch in mind. Insight regarding the Makita being worth the extra cash? Corded vs cordless doesn’t matter. Thanks again. I have learned a great deal from your channel.
Thanks for the video! It really helps a lot!
No problem!
Makita for life 👍🏼
As always so much good information.
Looks like I won't go wrong with the dewalt already being invested in the platform. My hitachi corded is due for a replacement. Happy Father's day to me.
Great job tho love the head to heads!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Good useful video, thank you. Subscribed!
Your testing is excellent, thanks
thanks
Great work!
Thanks!
Can you do a supplemental video to add the Mafell jigsaw?
Can't wait for the xgt barrel one. Switching to this line. Makita get a wriggle on
Hi Guys!!!! Awesome tests! Thanks! I just wish my Milwaukee didn't come in last place. :-( On a similar note, when I got my Milwaukee barrel jigsaw, the base plate was not perfectly flat. One corner seemed to be a little bent. I called Milwaukee about it, and they sent me a new base plate, at no charge, that was very close to being perfectly flat. Kudos to Milwaukee on their support. Have a great Memorial Day Weekend! :-)
Excellent review. Thanks
1 thumbs up and a comment your head to heads are the best on RUclips
Again!??? No way!! Makita wins! It’s $100 less and performs as well.
You didn’t use the festool with its splinter guard on or the LED in strobe mode, which makes the blade look stationary for following a line - otherwise it would have won the first test hands down - believe me, i own the cordless makita for rough cuts and corded festool for fine cabinet work - the festool is on another level when it comes to finish (IF you use the zero clearance SPLINTERGUARD - you know the little pits of plastic you couldn’t figure out what to do with!)
Once again, you guys nailed it!
Well done, btw...nice shirt Rob, can I have one?
Thanks
Pretty sure this is what we sell below the video - says "Crew" on back
Something that ought to be noted is the fact that while the Festool will accept & can be used with any blades, the machine was designed to be operated with Festool blades. This may seem like a trivial point to mention however believe it or not, the company produces blades with some really innovative design features that cause them to differ from the traditional style blade and thusly there are actually very different components built into the Festool machine that are designed to utilize those specific blades. I realize it seems like nothing more than a proprietary method of gaining revenue and while I've no doubt that may have been an element in making the choice to design around their own blades, if one only takes the time to research the technology involved they will surely see that the benefits in improved cut quality are also significant factors in justifying the companies decision.
One quite important thing, that either I have missed while watching or you have missed reviewing, can you switch LED light off? On barrell grip jigsaws it is very useful when cutting from underside, light is shining right in your eyes.
Makita and Festool yes
Thanks, excellent review 👏
thanks
great video
i wish you would add in DBsound rating but love these vids the wirk that must go ib=n thanks guys
We usually do on longer use tools but with a jigsaw it’s such an under used in auxiliary tool we didn’t think it was a big metric
exellent testing again guys , thank you all, however i didn't see the De Walt coming as the best value for the money, and that is because in the testing it's destroying itself when you pull it back. therefore i would think you have to buy a new one a hole lot sooner then with any other , just my thoughts . thanks again and keep up with this awesome content you are making for us
It is unbelievable that the jig saw essentially was designed to replace the Coping (hand) saw - and yet the basic concept of having a fine blade held each side hasn't yet been replicated on the jigsaw. The only performance issue I have ever had with a jigsaw is that it won't cut a very fine radius and they wander so far out of square. I don't care if they are slow or won't cut huge lengths on a single charge. I just want accuracy and reliable cuts which will follow any radius without issue. Thats the main reason we use this tool!
"The Festool saw blade was difficult to see. The small-sized Diablo blade got lost [visually] inside the V-shaped blade guard".
It seems that you didn't operate the Festool properly. It has a stroboscopic ligthing which adapts to the frequency of the blade motions, allowing to see the blade perfectly as if it was not moving. It can be turned off and on, it seems that in your test in was not on.
I think you should have also looked at accessories, e.g. those allowing to cut precise circles : huge differences between the companies...
yes but expensive accessories. Festool is a bit of a Unicorn - they're amazing but not for everyone
Amazing job as always, meanwhile VCG throwing boxes off roofs and seeing which impact makes the best hammer.
Appreciate that I don't need your opinion at all
I just don't recall asking for your opinion, a good rule for life to "make more friends", if no one asks for your thoughts they probably need not be given.
Gees Eric, it’s a comment forum so f you don’t want anyone to post a reply (like you’ll probably do in response to this), DON’T post.
Stronly disagree, that is where your mistake lies. I do not go on any comment any disagree with any differing opinion I read it, take it that information, and move on. If I have my own personal opinion I separately post that. I don't offer my unsolicited opinion on any matter in comments. The biggest problem with social media it has convinced people that because they have a random thought that differs from someone, I must tell them.
I made a joke lol, that fact that it needed to be discussed at all is very confusing.
Good jigsaw review, 15:38 Makita is not the only one with a stored Allen wrench. Milwaukee's is in the back bottom side of the shoe. it is a bit hard to see.
Thanks for this
No problem
You guys ROCK!
The milwaukee also has onboard storage for the Allen wrench.
I've been to 5 home depots and 4 lowes yet to see one of these barrel grip jigsaws, only on line I like to feel tools in hand before I purchase