I'm looking to add pan/tilt, flaps, 2x drop mech, and conventional 4ch controls on an ELRS plane right now and this is exactly what I needed to know. Liked and subbed!
I totally get now why you don't advocate spektrum. Took .e a couple months to figure it out but now I'm looking for other RX options for my Mig 29 and seeing things like this help a lot! Great info!
@@nickvledderDepends on what you are using if for! Been flying fixed wings for 10 years with it and never a problem I didn't create myself. so you are biased
ELRS is definitely coming along for fixed wing on the Output/Control (PWM, SBUS). Is there any work happening on the telemetry / INPUT side of things? CRSF is a bit limiting as it lacks protocol definitions for per-cell pack voltage (Frsky ADV voltage), Barometric Pressure (alt/vario), engine, fuel, among others... How about S.Port, ibus to CRSF flexibility on the telemetry side? I'm somewhat stuck on D16, S.Port, SBUS until ELRS telemetry matures.
Hey there. Awesome awesome videos for someone like me. One question, can an Eagle A3S4 be integrated into this setup? I plan to use it my A10. I plan to use at least 11 channels and I just can’t see in my head where the sbus connection happens to the converter. Matek to the gyro but from the gyro to the converter is my confusion. Maybe it’s not possible? If you get a second to let me know , that would be very helpful!! Thanks.
The described failsafe of no pulses causes the the sbus to pwm converter to do what? I am hoping not to drive all the servos to -100? How would a user set their prefered failsafe servo positions please?
Thanks. I have a feeling devices like this one will be stop-gap measures while the manufacturers get around to taking advantage of ELRS 3.x which introduced 8 and 16 proportional channels.
@@RCVideoReviews Yea they are focusing to much at drones market doesn't know there much more of who actually fly planes and helicopters. But I like this decoder is there less ch?
Actually as do a bit of searching, I’m prolly better off using something like a BetaFPV SuperP 14 channel. I just have to figure out how to access sbus. Hopefully I follow the same steps in your gyro video. Thanks.
That is really nice indeed! Thak you so much for the video! But... the opportunity to use more than the standard number of servo's kindles the desire to use it for much larger planes... and therefor more than 5 volts... What would be the best way to wire that up as the reciever cannot take more than 5 volts as far as I know.... Do happen to you have any advise or a working solution ?
Simply put a mico bec in front of the Rx. I've done that plenty of times. For example: www.racedayquads.com/products/matek-micro-bec-6-30v-input-to-5v-12v-adjustable-3pcs
Nice John great video $40.00 for a 16 channel , dual diversity antenna ,with telemetry with a programable sbus decoder WIN WIN in my opinion . What voltage does the s-bus decoder go to looks solid Take Care
Wow seems so easy to get 16 channels! Lot to learn but looking forward to using this setup in my 737 which needs 14 channels. I notice you don't use model ID - can you use this so you don't get mixed up with multiple models or is something taking care of this?
I do not use model ID. The only feature I use is Receiver # to load different ELRS profiles depending on the plane. I don't bother with it because I'm the only one who touches my radio and I always ensure I've got the right model loaded before powering on. Just part of my process so don't need the feature. I have a 16channel receiver now. Working on the prototype.
• As an opensource it receives regular and recurring enhancements and improvements. • It uses LORA (as do a handful of others) yielding insane long range capabilities. If that's not your bag, it also means while flying LOS you'll have a dead reliable connection. • As the software is divorced from hardware, you are not married to any particular hardware vendor meaning as the consumer you benefit from competitive downward price pressure. • They've introduce packet rates that literally smoke check the competition. Good for pilots with extreme speed requirements. • Binding Phrases = Pure win. • Now supports CRSF, SBUS, and PWM. Most others support 1 or 2, few support 3. • The developers are active hobbyists so they have a meaningful approach to development that isn't tied to corporate objectives. You can learn more here: www.expresslrs.org/faq/
I ordered the 16 channel board, but I have radiomaster elrs receivers. So... signal wire from sbus solder on tx pad receiver, right? (And leave rx pad free?) I think it is a brilliant solution for fixed wings but I still have so much to learn. Thanks John!
At the moment I don’t think they intend on adding fport. Honestly, it was a stretch to get sbus. You do get rx telemetry: rssi, rqly, rfmod, that kind of thing. But nothing from downstream devices at the moment.
You could use a Matek P24-R6 PWM, take vbat from it, and set SBUS out on Ch2 to feed to the 16ch decoder. Seems convoluted, but it would give you 16ch PWM with vbat.
@@RCVideoReviews haha I guess. I have not figured out how to run 16 pwm output channels with a flight controller anyway. I just use 2 X8R/S8R receivers in tandem with a SmartPort cell voltage meter.
Hi John, I followed your vidio to the letter. Now I have PWM on all channels, But for some strange reson my ESC refuses to work even although I have signal to that channel. What have I missed?
Hmmm--that's a tough one. When you say you have PWM on all channels, does that indicate you put a servo on the ESC channel, moved your throttle stick and observed the servo move? I assume ESC is powered and connected to a motor? Once you see PWM output on a pin, that's it--it's up to the ESC at that point.
in the video you state that this firmware is not part of the official release as of may 2023, has it become part of the official release as of march 2024? @@RCVideoReviews
So I am I heavy noob here buy I am fumbling around trying to figure out a way to get an RC tank, put an aftermarket board on it if it has an integrated receiver so I can use ELRS for greater range and penetration from a standalone radio and use SBUS to so enable all the various functions of a tank despite having a PWM receiver for surface vehicles. I may be talking absolute nonsense
• As an opensource it receives regular and recurring enhancements and improvements. • It uses LORA (as do a handful of others) yielding insane long range capabilities. If that's not your bag, it also means while flying LOS you'll have a dead reliable connection. • As the software is divorced from hardware, you are not married to any particular hardware vendor meaning as the consumer you benefit from competitive downward price pressure. • They've introduce packet rates that literally smoke check the competition. Good for pilots with extreme speed requirements. • Binding Phrases = Pure win. • Now supports CRSF, SBUS, and PWM. Most others support 1 or 2, few support 3. • The developers are active hobbyists so they have a meaningful approach to development that isn't tied to corporate objectives. You can learn more here: www.expresslrs.org/faq/
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I'm looking to add pan/tilt, flaps, 2x drop mech, and conventional 4ch controls on an ELRS plane right now and this is exactly what I needed to know. Liked and subbed!
Great! Welcome to the channel.
I totally get now why you don't advocate spektrum. Took .e a couple months to figure it out but now I'm looking for other RX options for my Mig 29 and seeing things like this help a lot! Great info!
Awesome! Glad to help.
Spektrum is the worst.
@@nickvledderDepends on what you are using if for! Been flying fixed wings for 10 years with it and never a problem I didn't create myself. so you are biased
Nice. SBUS is a key ingredient to help ELRS go mainstream IMO (by mainstream I mean non-FPV).
Love it. Plug in all the servos now, baby!
If I had 16 of those handy, I would have given it a go :)
Thanks.
And what about telemetry?
On a boat 16 ch is wery glad to use, but battery voltage and current is often needed.
ELRS is definitely coming along for fixed wing on the Output/Control (PWM, SBUS). Is there any work happening on the telemetry / INPUT side of things? CRSF is a bit limiting as it lacks protocol definitions for per-cell pack voltage (Frsky ADV voltage), Barometric Pressure (alt/vario), engine, fuel, among others...
How about S.Port, ibus to CRSF flexibility on the telemetry side? I'm somewhat stuck on D16, S.Port, SBUS until ELRS telemetry matures.
github.com/tbs-fpv/freedomtx/issues/26#issuecomment-1573853048
Not a elrs guy but a little comment & thankyou always helps 😊 thanks sir 🙏
Appreciate it...thank you.
Hey there. Awesome awesome videos for someone like me. One question, can an Eagle A3S4 be integrated into this setup? I plan to use it my A10. I plan to use at least 11 channels and I just can’t see in my head where the sbus connection happens to the converter. Matek to the gyro but from the gyro to the converter is my confusion. Maybe it’s not possible? If you get a second to let me know , that would be very helpful!! Thanks.
The described failsafe of no pulses causes the the sbus to pwm converter to do what? I am hoping not to drive all the servos to -100? How would a user set their prefered failsafe servo positions please?
Can’t wait to start using express lrs on my boxer radio
Great content, I was waiting for those kind of devices to get into ELRS for fixed wing.
Thanks. I have a feeling devices like this one will be stop-gap measures while the manufacturers get around to taking advantage of ELRS 3.x which introduced 8 and 16 proportional channels.
@@RCVideoReviews Yea they are focusing to much at drones market doesn't know there much more of who actually fly planes and helicopters. But I like this decoder is there less ch?
Actually as do a bit of searching, I’m prolly better off using something like a BetaFPV SuperP 14 channel. I just have to figure out how to access sbus. Hopefully I follow the same steps in your gyro video. Thanks.
That is really nice indeed! Thak you so much for the video! But... the opportunity to use more than the standard number of servo's kindles the desire to use it for much larger planes... and therefor more than 5 volts... What would be the best way to wire that up as the reciever cannot take more than 5 volts as far as I know.... Do happen to you have any advise or a working solution ?
Simply put a mico bec in front of the Rx. I've done that plenty of times. For example: www.racedayquads.com/products/matek-micro-bec-6-30v-input-to-5v-12v-adjustable-3pcs
Nice John great video $40.00 for a 16 channel , dual diversity antenna ,with telemetry with a programable sbus decoder
WIN WIN in my opinion . What voltage does the s-bus decoder go to looks solid
Take Care
Voltage isn't shown in the specs, so I'd keep it at 5v. It'll be nice when we see vbat on every ELRS (hopefully).
Wow seems so easy to get 16 channels! Lot to learn but looking forward to using this setup in my 737 which needs 14 channels. I notice you don't use model ID - can you use this so you don't get mixed up with multiple models or is something taking care of this?
I do not use model ID. The only feature I use is Receiver # to load different ELRS profiles depending on the plane. I don't bother with it because I'm the only one who touches my radio and I always ensure I've got the right model loaded before powering on. Just part of my process so don't need the feature.
I have a 16channel receiver now. Working on the prototype.
What is the advantage of this protocol compared to other readily available protocols?
• As an opensource it receives regular and recurring enhancements and improvements.
• It uses LORA (as do a handful of others) yielding insane long range capabilities. If that's not your bag, it also means while flying LOS you'll have a dead reliable connection.
• As the software is divorced from hardware, you are not married to any particular hardware vendor meaning as the consumer you benefit from competitive downward price pressure.
• They've introduce packet rates that literally smoke check the competition. Good for pilots with extreme speed requirements.
• Binding Phrases = Pure win.
• Now supports CRSF, SBUS, and PWM. Most others support 1 or 2, few support 3.
• The developers are active hobbyists so they have a meaningful approach to development that isn't tied to corporate objectives.
You can learn more here: www.expresslrs.org/faq/
Your the one of the best ! thanks for training ! I so want a M9 ) btw is that background flyover a BF109?...sounded like a merlin though maybe.
Lol, it was a Merlin. Good call.
I was wondering about this just the other day... Thanks!
You're welcome.
I ordered the 16 channel board, but I have radiomaster elrs receivers. So... signal wire from sbus solder on tx pad receiver, right? (And leave rx pad free?)
I think it is a brilliant solution for fixed wings but I still have so much to learn. Thanks John!
Yup. Sbus out on rx tx pad.
The esc doesnt work. It keeps giving out 2 beeps at a time. Is it an issue with the board or do i have to configure it to work with the esc?
Do you have signal from the Tx/Rx going to the ESC? Sounds like the ESC isn't seeing signal of 998us.
I came across this video and I'm confused what you said about not using channel 5 and something to do with lua. Can you explain to me in easy terms?
Watch this: ruclips.net/user/liveARCfafma1rM?feature=share
So, how would telemetry work with SBUS output? Would they emulate SmartPort? If so, could they just make it an FPort situation?
At the moment I don’t think they intend on adding fport. Honestly, it was a stretch to get sbus. You do get rx telemetry: rssi, rqly, rfmod, that kind of thing. But nothing from downstream devices at the moment.
@@RCVideoReviews battery voltage is important on my 16 channel edf jets.
I want voltage on everything. There are elrs receivers with vbat.
You could use a Matek P24-R6 PWM, take vbat from it, and set SBUS out on Ch2 to feed to the 16ch decoder. Seems convoluted, but it would give you 16ch PWM with vbat.
@@RCVideoReviews haha I guess. I have not figured out how to run 16 pwm output channels with a flight controller anyway. I just use 2 X8R/S8R receivers in tandem with a SmartPort cell voltage meter.
Hi John, I followed your vidio to the letter. Now I have PWM on all channels, But for some strange reson my ESC refuses to work even although I have signal to that channel. What have I missed?
Hmmm--that's a tough one. When you say you have PWM on all channels, does that indicate you put a servo on the ESC channel, moved your throttle stick and observed the servo move? I assume ESC is powered and connected to a motor? Once you see PWM output on a pin, that's it--it's up to the ESC at that point.
@@RCVideoReviews I will have another look, I just feel I've missed something stupid. Thanks again
It was the ESC that had decided to die just at that moment, so at lest I now know what was amiss. Thanks again
has this been added to the release version as of 3-2024?
Not sure I understand your question.
in the video you state that this firmware is not part of the official release as of may 2023, has it become part of the official release as of march 2024?
@@RCVideoReviews
Would your Sbus Mod be Suited for any Sbus Flight controller ?? Z.O.H.D. Kopilot ?????
Except for the ch5 arming issue. I e used it on a number of other gyros and the sbus feed is a standard sbus stream.
Good video as always John, massive thanks 🙏
You're welcome.
What is that little elrs receiver?
In the description. R24D
I know u have moved to ELRS from the Crossfire. But would this be possible to be done on Crossfire as well?
Crossfire does offer SBUS output, so it should work fine.
So I am I heavy noob here buy I am fumbling around trying to figure out a way to get an RC tank, put an aftermarket board on it if it has an integrated receiver so I can use ELRS for greater range and penetration from a standalone radio and use SBUS to so enable all the various functions of a tank despite having a PWM receiver for surface vehicles. I may be talking absolute nonsense
I think you need to do a little more homework.
@@RCVideoReviews lol okay, thanks for the reply. I had a feeling I was grasping beyond my reach
I don't know anything about ELRS. What is the benefits of ELRS
• As an opensource it receives regular and recurring enhancements and improvements.
• It uses LORA (as do a handful of others) yielding insane long range capabilities. If that's not your bag, it also means while flying LOS you'll have a dead reliable connection.
• As the software is divorced from hardware, you are not married to any particular hardware vendor meaning as the consumer you benefit from competitive downward price pressure.
• They've introduce packet rates that literally smoke check the competition. Good for pilots with extreme speed requirements.
• Binding Phrases = Pure win.
• Now supports CRSF, SBUS, and PWM. Most others support 1 or 2, few support 3.
• The developers are active hobbyists so they have a meaningful approach to development that isn't tied to corporate objectives.
You can learn more here: www.expresslrs.org/faq/
@@RCVideoReviews thanks